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Unit193Well at least it's not all bad news, this winter is supposed to be rather cold...03:16
skellatAccording to?03:17
Unit193Something from earlier, didn't see what. :P03:17
skellatRemember, I'm in the snow belt.03:18
skellatAm I going to need muk-luks, sled dogs, and hazard suits?03:19
Unit193Farmers' Almanac, so it would seem.03:19
Unit193But really, too far out to know if it'll be good or bad.03:20
skellatYeah03:22
skellatGeneral purpose Hazard Encounter Suits might be a good investment anyhow, though03:22
jrgiffordOr a D20.03:23
skellatThis thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_towed_gun-howitzer_M1955_%28D-20%2903:25
jenni[ 152 mm towed gun-howitzer M1955 (D-20) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ] - https://j.mp/151yKRL03:25
skellatOr this thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_D-2003:26
jenni[ Chevrolet D-20 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ] - https://j.mp/15fJou903:26
Unit193That could heat things up, but not for too long and the shots would cost a bit.03:26
skellatCanister-based cross-border mail delivery from the Ashtabula Harbor to Ontario's Port Stanley...that'd be a slightly more practical use03:29
skellatEXTREME AIR MAIL03:29
Unit193paultag: Pooooke.21:03
paultagUnit193: ouch21:03
Unit193You feeling in an uploading mood? ;)21:04
paultagUnit193: I may be tonight, what's up? :)21:04
Unit193paultag: Nothing really, just the standard updates.21:05
paultagUnit193: which package? Bugfixes?21:05
Unit193paultag: inxi, and unreported bugs to Debian BTS, but fixes bugs. :D21:06
paultagsure21:06
paultagUnit193: send it over via email, I can try to get to it tonight21:06
paultagvcs ptr is best21:06
Unit193Yep, will compose email, don't have it on alioth.21:09
paultagdooo eeetttt21:09
paultagUnit193: for now dsc will be ok21:09
paultagbut use vcs21:09
Unit193Man, if you could only see me use vcs, you'd be laughing for sure. :P21:10
paultag:)21:10
paultagWell, ok21:10
paultagbut still :)21:10
Unit193Yeah, think some team I'm on is going to make a group on there, may have to figure it out better there.21:11
paultagdsc is fine for now21:11
skellat*cough*cough*Xubuntu*cough*cough*21:11
paultagbut vcs is important21:11
paultagyou can even use bzr in Debian21:11
paultagjust not on lp ;)21:11
Unit193Sure, bzr may be a little "easier", but still like git better.21:11
paultagwell, lucky you, you can use git too!21:12
Unit193Hah, yep.  I wouldn't use lp, I'd have tried to cheat and use bitbucket. :P21:12
paultagbah21:12
paultagalioth man21:12
Unit193Does it matter if you init in source/ or source/debian/ ?21:18
paultaginit?21:20
paultagOh, git init21:20
paultagdepends on your workflow21:20
paultaggit-buildpackage prefers source/ by default, but I don't like it. You can do a mergeWithUpstream + source/debian21:20
paultagI don't actually have a VCS workflow I like21:20
paultagso I track it all by hand21:21
paultagwhich sucks21:21
paultagUnit193: perhaps ask in #debian-devel on what you should do21:21
paultagpeople there have opinions21:21
Unit193Strong ones, I'm guessing.21:21
paultagYeah21:22
paultagbut you can ignore them and do whatever21:22
paultagbut it's good to know what people think21:22
Unit193Sure, though knowing both are acceptable is pretty good.21:23
paultag:)21:23
paultagYeah, it requires more work to do source/debian21:23
paultagyou have to configure gbp to do a mergeWithUpstream21:23
paultagwhich is what I prefer, frankly21:24
paultagand the reason why I like svn-buildpackage21:24
Unit193So you can't ignore it and just call debuild like now?21:25
paultagI mean, you can21:25
paultagjust be sure to not get kruft in your dir21:25
paultagand gpb is nice for some things21:25
paultaglike managing tags21:25
Unit193DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS="-i -I" tries to ignore those issues.21:26
* paultag shrugs21:26
paultagwhatever floats your boat21:26
paultagjust having it in VCS is nice21:26
Unit193For others, not me. ;)  (But yes, I've looked at the VCS section for several hosts, several seemed self-hosted.)21:28
paultaghum?21:28
paultagNo, I mean, push your repo to git.debian.org21:28
Unit193Yeah, what I said wasn't clear.  I've been to the PTS and checked out several packages debian VCS areas.21:29
paultagOh.21:30
paultagWell, don't use anything that's not .*\.debian\.org21:30
paultaghttp://people.debian.org/~paultag/sponsorship/ (as seen in Basic Guidelines)21:31
jenni[ Sponsorship Guidelines ] - https://j.mp/185e8tQ21:31
Unit193Yeppers, sadly.21:31
paultagsadly?21:31
paultagI don't grok21:31
Unit193You don't have to, you like alioth. ;)21:32
paultagI don't :)21:32
paultagI just don't see other services as being Debian-maintained21:33
paultage.g. GitHub21:33
paultagthe thing is, if people put it on their ~, it's useless21:33
paultagbitbucket/codel337h4x0r/package.git is useless to me, and adopting it means I have to repoint the vcs21:33
paultagand the stale backlink will sit around21:34
Unit193Mhmm.  Well, I'm sure I'll get around to it soon enough.  And, need to add my other email to my sig. >_>21:36
paultaggot the email21:38
paultagunrelated gif: http://31.media.tumblr.com/2cf8cdacda899a7014b19b4241032111/tumblr_mmde1fn6Vl1sq9tuko1_1280.gif21:38
jennihttps://j.mp/185eVLk21:38
Unit193Broken, everything is. :D21:38

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