[03:16] <Unit193> Well at least it's not all bad news, this winter is supposed to be rather cold...
[03:17] <skellat> According to?
[03:17] <Unit193> Something from earlier, didn't see what. :P
[03:18] <skellat> Remember, I'm in the snow belt.
[03:19] <skellat> Am I going to need muk-luks, sled dogs, and hazard suits?
[03:19] <Unit193> Farmers' Almanac, so it would seem.
[03:20] <Unit193> But really, too far out to know if it'll be good or bad.
[03:22] <skellat> Yeah
[03:22] <skellat> General purpose Hazard Encounter Suits might be a good investment anyhow, though
[03:23] <jrgifford> Or a D20.
[03:25] <skellat> This thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_towed_gun-howitzer_M1955_%28D-20%29
[03:25] <jenni> [ 152 mm towed gun-howitzer M1955 (D-20) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ] - https://j.mp/151yKRL
[03:26] <skellat> Or this thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_D-20
[03:26] <jenni> [ Chevrolet D-20 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ] - https://j.mp/15fJou9
[03:26] <Unit193> That could heat things up, but not for too long and the shots would cost a bit.
[03:29] <skellat> Canister-based cross-border mail delivery from the Ashtabula Harbor to Ontario's Port Stanley...that'd be a slightly more practical use
[03:29] <skellat> EXTREME AIR MAIL
[21:03] <Unit193> paultag: Pooooke.
[21:03] <paultag> Unit193: ouch
[21:04] <Unit193> You feeling in an uploading mood? ;)
[21:04] <paultag> Unit193: I may be tonight, what's up? :)
[21:05] <Unit193> paultag: Nothing really, just the standard updates.
[21:05] <paultag> Unit193: which package? Bugfixes?
[21:06] <Unit193> paultag: inxi, and unreported bugs to Debian BTS, but fixes bugs. :D
[21:06] <paultag> sure
[21:06] <paultag> Unit193: send it over via email, I can try to get to it tonight
[21:06] <paultag> vcs ptr is best
[21:09] <Unit193> Yep, will compose email, don't have it on alioth.
[21:09] <paultag> dooo eeetttt
[21:09] <paultag> Unit193: for now dsc will be ok
[21:09] <paultag> but use vcs
[21:10] <Unit193> Man, if you could only see me use vcs, you'd be laughing for sure. :P
[21:10] <paultag> :)
[21:10] <paultag> Well, ok
[21:10] <paultag> but still :)
[21:11] <Unit193> Yeah, think some team I'm on is going to make a group on there, may have to figure it out better there.
[21:11] <paultag> dsc is fine for now
[21:11] <skellat> *cough*cough*Xubuntu*cough*cough*
[21:11] <paultag> but vcs is important
[21:11] <paultag> you can even use bzr in Debian
[21:11] <paultag> just not on lp ;)
[21:11] <Unit193> Sure, bzr may be a little "easier", but still like git better.
[21:12] <paultag> well, lucky you, you can use git too!
[21:12] <Unit193> Hah, yep.  I wouldn't use lp, I'd have tried to cheat and use bitbucket. :P
[21:12] <paultag> bah
[21:12] <paultag> alioth man
[21:18] <Unit193> Does it matter if you init in source/ or source/debian/ ?
[21:20] <paultag> init?
[21:20] <paultag> Oh, git init
[21:20] <paultag> depends on your workflow
[21:20] <paultag> git-buildpackage prefers source/ by default, but I don't like it. You can do a mergeWithUpstream + source/debian
[21:20] <paultag> I don't actually have a VCS workflow I like
[21:21] <paultag> so I track it all by hand
[21:21] <paultag> which sucks
[21:21] <paultag> Unit193: perhaps ask in #debian-devel on what you should do
[21:21] <paultag> people there have opinions
[21:21] <Unit193> Strong ones, I'm guessing.
[21:22] <paultag> Yeah
[21:22] <paultag> but you can ignore them and do whatever
[21:22] <paultag> but it's good to know what people think
[21:23] <Unit193> Sure, though knowing both are acceptable is pretty good.
[21:23] <paultag> :)
[21:23] <paultag> Yeah, it requires more work to do source/debian
[21:23] <paultag> you have to configure gbp to do a mergeWithUpstream
[21:24] <paultag> which is what I prefer, frankly
[21:24] <paultag> and the reason why I like svn-buildpackage
[21:25] <Unit193> So you can't ignore it and just call debuild like now?
[21:25] <paultag> I mean, you can
[21:25] <paultag> just be sure to not get kruft in your dir
[21:25] <paultag> and gpb is nice for some things
[21:25] <paultag> like managing tags
[21:26] <Unit193> DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS="-i -I" tries to ignore those issues.
[21:26]  * paultag shrugs
[21:26] <paultag> whatever floats your boat
[21:26] <paultag> just having it in VCS is nice
[21:28] <Unit193> For others, not me. ;)  (But yes, I've looked at the VCS section for several hosts, several seemed self-hosted.)
[21:28] <paultag> hum?
[21:28] <paultag> No, I mean, push your repo to git.debian.org
[21:29] <Unit193> Yeah, what I said wasn't clear.  I've been to the PTS and checked out several packages debian VCS areas.
[21:30] <paultag> Oh.
[21:30] <paultag> Well, don't use anything that's not .*\.debian\.org
[21:31] <paultag> http://people.debian.org/~paultag/sponsorship/ (as seen in Basic Guidelines)
[21:31] <jenni> [ Sponsorship Guidelines ] - https://j.mp/185e8tQ
[21:31] <Unit193> Yeppers, sadly.
[21:31] <paultag> sadly?
[21:31] <paultag> I don't grok
[21:32] <Unit193> You don't have to, you like alioth. ;)
[21:32] <paultag> I don't :)
[21:33] <paultag> I just don't see other services as being Debian-maintained
[21:33] <paultag> e.g. GitHub
[21:33] <paultag> the thing is, if people put it on their ~, it's useless
[21:33] <paultag> bitbucket/codel337h4x0r/package.git is useless to me, and adopting it means I have to repoint the vcs
[21:34] <paultag> and the stale backlink will sit around
[21:36] <Unit193> Mhmm.  Well, I'm sure I'll get around to it soon enough.  And, need to add my other email to my sig. >_>
[21:38] <paultag> got the email
[21:38] <paultag> unrelated gif: http://31.media.tumblr.com/2cf8cdacda899a7014b19b4241032111/tumblr_mmde1fn6Vl1sq9tuko1_1280.gif
[21:38] <jenni> https://j.mp/185eVLk
[21:38] <Unit193> Broken, everything is. :D