[03:16] Well at least it's not all bad news, this winter is supposed to be rather cold... [03:17] According to? [03:17] Something from earlier, didn't see what. :P [03:18] Remember, I'm in the snow belt. [03:19] Am I going to need muk-luks, sled dogs, and hazard suits? [03:19] Farmers' Almanac, so it would seem. [03:20] But really, too far out to know if it'll be good or bad. [03:22] Yeah [03:22] General purpose Hazard Encounter Suits might be a good investment anyhow, though [03:23] Or a D20. [03:25] This thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_towed_gun-howitzer_M1955_%28D-20%29 [03:25] [ 152 mm towed gun-howitzer M1955 (D-20) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ] - https://j.mp/151yKRL [03:26] Or this thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_D-20 [03:26] [ Chevrolet D-20 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ] - https://j.mp/15fJou9 [03:26] That could heat things up, but not for too long and the shots would cost a bit. [03:29] Canister-based cross-border mail delivery from the Ashtabula Harbor to Ontario's Port Stanley...that'd be a slightly more practical use [03:29] EXTREME AIR MAIL [21:03] paultag: Pooooke. [21:03] Unit193: ouch [21:04] You feeling in an uploading mood? ;) [21:04] Unit193: I may be tonight, what's up? :) [21:05] paultag: Nothing really, just the standard updates. [21:05] Unit193: which package? Bugfixes? [21:06] paultag: inxi, and unreported bugs to Debian BTS, but fixes bugs. :D [21:06] sure [21:06] Unit193: send it over via email, I can try to get to it tonight [21:06] vcs ptr is best [21:09] Yep, will compose email, don't have it on alioth. [21:09] dooo eeetttt [21:09] Unit193: for now dsc will be ok [21:09] but use vcs [21:10] Man, if you could only see me use vcs, you'd be laughing for sure. :P [21:10] :) [21:10] Well, ok [21:10] but still :) [21:11] Yeah, think some team I'm on is going to make a group on there, may have to figure it out better there. [21:11] dsc is fine for now [21:11] *cough*cough*Xubuntu*cough*cough* [21:11] but vcs is important [21:11] you can even use bzr in Debian [21:11] just not on lp ;) [21:11] Sure, bzr may be a little "easier", but still like git better. [21:12] well, lucky you, you can use git too! [21:12] Hah, yep. I wouldn't use lp, I'd have tried to cheat and use bitbucket. :P [21:12] bah [21:12] alioth man [21:18] Does it matter if you init in source/ or source/debian/ ? [21:20] init? [21:20] Oh, git init [21:20] depends on your workflow [21:20] git-buildpackage prefers source/ by default, but I don't like it. You can do a mergeWithUpstream + source/debian [21:20] I don't actually have a VCS workflow I like [21:21] so I track it all by hand [21:21] which sucks [21:21] Unit193: perhaps ask in #debian-devel on what you should do [21:21] people there have opinions [21:21] Strong ones, I'm guessing. [21:22] Yeah [21:22] but you can ignore them and do whatever [21:22] but it's good to know what people think [21:23] Sure, though knowing both are acceptable is pretty good. [21:23] :) [21:23] Yeah, it requires more work to do source/debian [21:23] you have to configure gbp to do a mergeWithUpstream [21:24] which is what I prefer, frankly [21:24] and the reason why I like svn-buildpackage [21:25] So you can't ignore it and just call debuild like now? [21:25] I mean, you can [21:25] just be sure to not get kruft in your dir [21:25] and gpb is nice for some things [21:25] like managing tags [21:26] DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS="-i -I" tries to ignore those issues. [21:26] * paultag shrugs [21:26] whatever floats your boat [21:26] just having it in VCS is nice [21:28] For others, not me. ;) (But yes, I've looked at the VCS section for several hosts, several seemed self-hosted.) [21:28] hum? [21:28] No, I mean, push your repo to git.debian.org [21:29] Yeah, what I said wasn't clear. I've been to the PTS and checked out several packages debian VCS areas. [21:30] Oh. [21:30] Well, don't use anything that's not .*\.debian\.org [21:31] http://people.debian.org/~paultag/sponsorship/ (as seen in Basic Guidelines) [21:31] [ Sponsorship Guidelines ] - https://j.mp/185e8tQ [21:31] Yeppers, sadly. [21:31] sadly? [21:31] I don't grok [21:32] You don't have to, you like alioth. ;) [21:32] I don't :) [21:33] I just don't see other services as being Debian-maintained [21:33] e.g. GitHub [21:33] the thing is, if people put it on their ~, it's useless [21:33] bitbucket/codel337h4x0r/package.git is useless to me, and adopting it means I have to repoint the vcs [21:34] and the stale backlink will sit around [21:36] Mhmm. Well, I'm sure I'll get around to it soon enough. And, need to add my other email to my sig. >_> [21:38] got the email [21:38] unrelated gif: http://31.media.tumblr.com/2cf8cdacda899a7014b19b4241032111/tumblr_mmde1fn6Vl1sq9tuko1_1280.gif [21:38] https://j.mp/185eVLk [21:38] Broken, everything is. :D