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Kilosmorning psychicist and others05:16
Trixar_zaMorning Kilos05:17
Kilosohi Trixar_za are you winning?05:18
Trixar_zaAnd I'm officially seen everything. I just had to take away one of those scissors that cut through anything from a dog that thought it was a good idea to chew it05:18
Trixar_zaIt was running around with it05:18
Kilos*i've05:19
Trixar_zaYou'd think a 7 month old dog would have learned better by now :/05:20
Kiloshehe animals do the weirdest things05:20
theblazehenkbmonkey, yeah. even have a github05:33
Trixar_zaI think most people have a github these days :P05:35
Trixar_zaWell, Linux people anyway05:35
theblazehenyeah :p05:35
Trixar_zaIt's like the cool thing to do :P05:35
theblazehentrue05:36
barrydkGood morning everyone06:06
Kiloshi barrydk 06:06
barrydkHoe gaan dit Kilos 06:06
Kilosgoed dankie en self06:06
Kilosals werk by my, en by jou?06:06
barrydkNie veel nuwe probleme nie. 06:07
Kiloswaart is mazal?06:07
Kiloswaar06:08
barrydkHy hou nog bietjie vakansie. Sal Maandag terug wees as ons gespaar bly06:08
Kilosaha06:08
nuvolario/ mornings oom Kilos 06:11
nuvolarimore barrydk 06:11
Kiloslo nuvolari nice to see you here so early06:11
barrydkMore nov06:12
nuvolariya, was fixing jabber connection06:12
nuvolarinice thing about CLI chat apps06:12
nuvolariyou stash everything together :P06:12
nuvolariirc + jabber06:12
nuvolari*nuv*06:16
* nuvolari hints at tab-completion06:16
nuvolari:P06:16
Kiloshehe06:16
Trixar_zaWhy not just an IRC client and connect to a bitlbee server06:19
nuvolariTrixar_za: that's what I have set up06:24
nuvolari:P06:24
Trixar_zaNice :P06:27
magespawngood morning all06:41
Kiloshi magespawn wb06:41
magespawnthanks been a bit busy06:42
Kiloslooks like06:42
Kilos1 day 9 hours06:42
magespawnyup was in the shop briefly yesterday and going to be back on the road from 11 today06:43
Kiloswhew with game stuff?06:43
magespawntransfers and monthly shopping in richards bay06:44
magespawnback to back transfers today06:44
Kilosah06:44
Kilosgame?06:44
magespawnmoving people from hotels to airports and orther people back again06:45
magespawnother as well06:45
Kilosaha06:45
Kilostime to find a geek job you can do from the shop06:45
Kilospeeps are pains06:45
Kilosgame is fine, if they give hassles you shoot them06:46
Kilosand make biltong06:46
magespawnbit harsh but okay06:46
Kiloshaha06:46
magespawnpeople coming on holiday are usually nice to deal with06:47
Kilosah thats good06:47
magespawnif you can relate well to people then most problems are not that big07:01
Kiloshehe07:02
Squirmany issues with the tenet sourceforge mirror?07:23
* Squirm prods Symmetria 07:23
magespawnKilos looks like tha guys are pretty fired up about the #linux-studies07:26
magespawnMaaz seen Symmetria07:26
Maazmagespawn: Symmetria was last seen 24 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes and 27 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-08-03 19:06:27 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2013-08-25 15:36:26 SAST07:26
Squirm24days??07:27
* Squirm kicks Symmetria 07:27
SquirmI think it's just my internet though. download hangs07:28
magespawnI think he got lost in Kenya somewhere07:28
Squirmworrying07:29
Squirmand I don't think he runs it anymore, he is just a wealth of knowledge for us to use though :P07:30
magespawnhe does still have access to their systems though, i think07:30
Kilosyeah magespawn just min07:32
Kilosyo theblazehen 07:32
theblazehenhi Kilos 07:32
Kilosits a massive amount of reading07:32
magespawnand learning too Kilos07:33
Kilossigh07:33
Kilosi wish one knew what in that manual was for basic knowledge and what is actually used07:34
Kiloslike runlevels thats all auto stuff07:34
theblazehenKilos, runlevels are sometimes usefull07:36
Trixar_zarunlevels? Are you talking systemd?07:36
theblazehensysvinit I think07:37
Kilosyeah the deep down stuff07:37
Kilosanyone got an idea what onnet link to use to check airtime and data on vodacom modem?07:39
Kilosmy 8ta one works kiff but sis needs it to tell her voda stuff07:39
Trixar_zaI use busybox's init, so I really don't know much about either :P07:41
KilosTrixar_za, you not interested in doing LPI07:49
Kilos?07:49
Kilosmight be handy to have the certificate when job hunting07:50
Trixar_zaI tried to once, but it never worked out08:00
Trixar_zaAnyway, it's better to get a redhat certificated qualification anyway08:01
Kilosi dunno08:02
Kiloshi psyatw Cantide 08:03
psyatwhi Kilos08:03
Cantidehello '<08:05
Kiloshi Vince-0 08:08
psyatwhoi Cantide :)08:09
psyatwhi ma08:09
psyatwmaiatoday: 08:09
psyatwhi Vince-008:09
maiatodayello psyatw 08:10
Kiloshiya maiatoday 08:10
maiatodayhey Kilos08:12
Vince-0herrow08:13
magespawnbbl, off driving08:25
Kilosgo safe magespawn 08:25
SquirmTrixar_za: RH and LPI I'd say are both good08:45
Squirmsome of the LPI stuff I haven't covered08:45
SquirmI still need to rewrite :/08:45
ThatGraemeGuymorning peeps08:59
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 08:59
Kilosmorning superfly 09:00
superflyhi Kilos09:04
=== Cantide is now known as CantiAFK
not_foundquiet when uncle Kilos isn't here to greet everyone...12:00
inetpronot_found: Happy Birthday!12:07
not_found:D thanks inetpro ...12:11
* not_found is sorry he missed the meeting on Monday... did go through the minutes... if someone sees RMS give him a piece of cake...12:55
not_foundhttp://www.uopeople.org/13:16
not_foundinteresting concept...13:16
Trixar_zawow13:17
Trixar_zaYeah13:17
Trixar_zaAnd there is the catch13:19
Trixar_zaIn order to remain sustainable, we charge small processing fees for application and examination processing. Applicants are charged a non-refundable onetime $10-$50 Application Processing Fee to cover the cost for us to review and process an application. The amount charged is based on the applicant’s place of residence – applicants from developing countries pay a lower amount. UoPeople charges an Exam Processing Fee of $100 per e13:19
Trixar_zand-of-course exam.13:19
Kiloshmm...13:27
Kilosyo not_found 13:27
not_foundTrixar_za: ah but if you compare the costs of a full degree with the costs of the exams and once of registration ... well you can't really :p (and there is ways to actually get sponsored if you really need it)13:27
not_foundalo uncle Kilos13:27
* not_found doesn't care that it is free... but is nice to do a full degree like that online ...13:28
not_foundand it not being UNISA :/13:28
Trixar_zaYeah, but they're not accredited yet13:28
Trixar_zaBut yeah, it would be nice if we had something similiar in South Africa13:29
not_foundthe fact that they aren't accredited means to me I will study there to learn something as opposed to getting a piece of paper :p13:29
Trixar_zalol13:30
not_foundwell anybody can study there, no matter the country13:30
Trixar_zaDon't some American Universities put their course material on the internet for free?13:30
not_foundMIT13:31
not_foundand some others...13:32
not_founddifference being here you actually write an exam and have to pass...13:32
=== CantiAFK is now known as Cantide
not_foundfor ones like me with very little motivation that can be pretty sweet ...13:32
Trixar_zaTrue13:33
Trixar_zaI'd probably leave it to the last minute though13:33
Trixar_zaAlso don't tell me I missed RMS in South Africa :(13:36
not_foundnot yet :p13:39
Trixar_zaAh, only on the 5th13:39
not_foundbye13:42
Kilosyou gonna go see him Trixar_za ?14:14
Trixar_zaIf I can find a way there14:15
Trixar_zaI did reserve a seat just in case14:15
Trixar_za;P14:15
Kilosyou far from there?14:15
Trixar_zaAbout 20 minutes drive14:15
Kilosmust be someone travelling past that way14:15
Kilosdont do like Cantide and seize pops car14:16
Kilosare you in the cape flats?14:17
Cantidelol14:17
Kilosshame thats gonna cost big14:18
Cantidehe had a look today - and he found bits of plastic in the oil pump - somehow some plastic part inside broke into little bits and clogged it14:20
Kiloswb magespawn 14:20
Kilosouch14:20
Cantideyeah :S14:20
Cantidewell, he was a mechanic14:21
Cantideso it gives him something to do :014:21
Cantideokay, i'm tooooo hungry right now14:21
Cantideso brb14:21
Kilosthats lucky14:21
Kilosthat cuts costs in less than half of having it done14:21
Cantideyeah, some mechanics are such ripoffs these days14:22
Cantidecars are becoming harder to fix and people are losing their DIY skills :/14:22
Cantidesad world14:22
Kilosyeah all become computer diagnostic stuff14:23
Cantideyeah14:23
Trixar_zaNo, I'm in Brackenfell14:23
Cantideokay... time to scavenge in the kitchen14:23
Cantidebrb14:23
=== Cantide is now known as CantiAFK
nuvolarihome time15:19
nuvolaribbiab15:19
Kilosmooi ry15:19
nuvolariek maak so dankie oom!15:19
Kilosbbl15:52
charlgood evening16:13
charlMaaz: coffee on16:13
* Maaz puts the kettle on16:13
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!16:17
charlMaaz: thanks16:20
Maazcharl: Sure16:20
nocwareEvening.16:35
Vince-0g16:36
Vince-0d'eve16:36
nocwaregud.16:39
nocwaredo u use wine by any chance? on a separate partition...16:39
Vince-0negative16:41
nocwareohh...16:44
nocwareok16:44
nocwareits fine...was just some file permission problems i was having.16:52
theblazehenhi guys16:53
nuvolarioh hi! it's not_found's bday17:06
Kilosaw17:06
nuvolarihowdy theblazehen, oom Kilos, nocware, Vince-0, psychicist, charl 17:07
theblazehenhey nuvolari 17:07
KilosMaaz, tell not_found on freenode Happy birthday laddy17:07
MaazKilos: Sure, I'll tell not_found on freenode17:07
Kiloslo nuvolari 17:07
theblazehenhey Kilos 17:07
Kilosyo theblazehen 17:07
Kiloshi psychicist 17:08
KilosThatGraemeGuy, you got probs?17:09
Vince-0surpdurp17:09
Kilosyo Vince-0 17:09
Vince-0got me a (t)ubuntu distro running on armv7 tegra2 device17:10
Kilos(t) ?17:10
nocwarehey nuvolari17:11
theblazehenKilos: tegra?17:11
Kiloswhats that?17:11
Vince-0touch17:11
Vince-0but not touch17:11
Kilosah17:11
Vince-0its actually lubuntu I think, but so many hacks17:12
magespawngood evening all17:12
Kiloswb magespawn 17:12
Kiloslong day17:12
magespawnyup, got another one tomorrow17:13
Kilossjoe17:13
magespawnnot too bad, but the pc work does suffer a bit17:15
Kilosyeah and study time17:18
magespawnyup got to read th lpic manual to prepare for the first meeting on friday17:24
Kiloswhew17:29
Kilosto divide with maaz you do 10/2 for example, how do you multiply?17:42
Kiloshi drussell all good?17:42
drussellKilos: yes! how about you?17:43
theblazehenMaaz 10*217:43
Maaztheblazehen: 2017:43
Kilosyes ty17:43
Kilosty theblazehen 17:43
theblazehennp17:43
Kilosyou gonna start with LPI on friday?17:44
theblazehenGotta read up a bit more.17:44
theblazehenBeen struggling with CSS the whole day17:45
Kilostheres only 7 of us in the learning channel17:45
Kiloswas hoping for lots more17:46
theblazehenhttp://i.imgur.com/Q3cUg29.gif17:46
magespawni was thinking this friday we could meet and great, get a bit more organised, spread the word etc17:46
Kilosmeet and greet?17:46
Kilosmaybe thats better magespawn 17:46
magespawnindeed17:47
magespawnbrain is still in driving mode17:47
magespawnlol theblazehen css can do fun things 17:48
Kiloshaha17:49
Kilosboys and their toys17:49
magespawnKilos: css is one of things that controls the way a website looks17:51
Kilosoh not a blind opener17:52
magespawnno thats the joke though.17:55
Kiloslol17:55
magespawncss = Cascading Style Sheets17:55
Kilossjoe enought17:56
Kilostoo much lpi and router reading17:56
magespawnhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_Style_Sheets17:56
Kilosnext week17:56
Kilosvodacom wasted data today trying to fix sisters email with them17:57
* Kilos hates vodacom17:58
Kilosbut mtn more17:58
magespawnin firefox there is a tool called view source which will let you see the html and css behind any website you are looking at17:59
theblazehenmagespawn, Really usefull :) 17:59
theblazehenAny idea how to get it to force a refresh?17:59
theblazehenSometimes it still loads data in cache18:00
magespawnyup i love firefox extensions for viewing page code18:00
magespawntheblazehen: firefox18:00
magespawn?18:00
theblazehenyep18:01
theblazehensorry was reading agenda for SFD18:01
magespawnnot sure my firefox is set to clear everything when it closes18:02
theblazehenYeah, I'm talking while it's still open though18:03
magespawnlets see18:11
magespawnfirefox button > options > advanced > clear cache options > clear now18:14
magespawnor install this https://addons.mozilla.org/en/firefox/addon/empty-cache-button/18:15
theblazehenty magespawn 18:15
magespawnyour welcome18:15
magespawnyou are18:15
magespawnbrian is offline18:16
theblazehenwho's brian? :p18:16
theblazehens/brian/brain/g18:16
magespawnsee what i mean18:17
theblazehenyeah18:17
magespawnhad to read that more than once18:18
theblazehenlol18:18
Kiloslol18:18
magespawnwarm enough here tonight to want the fans on18:20
Kiloscold coming tomorrow or friday18:21
theblazehenI don't want summer :(18:21
Kiloshey magespawn to host a bot you need to have ubuntu installed there as well?18:22
theblazehenGot a pentium4 :(18:22
Trixar_zahttp://www.lolzhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/eQRZ24M.jpg18:22
Trixar_za*coff*18:22
theblazehenKilos, which kind of bot?18:22
Kilosthere is only one kind18:22
Kilosibid18:22
theblazehenCan probably run on other *nix or windows18:22
Kilosyeah but the host i mean18:23
Kiloslotsa space needed18:23
theblazehenReally? Would think only a few MB18:23
Kilosand gotta be online 24/718:23
Kilosyeah but dont you need the OS there as well?18:24
theblazehenyeah18:24
theblazehenFor $11/year I can get a host18:24
Kilosso its like a buntu install then the bot in there18:24
theblazehenYep18:24
Kilosno man must be free18:24
theblazehenok. You can get hosting for a week at a time then18:25
theblazehensearch trial VPS18:25
theblazehendidital ocean has, rsaweb had18:25
Kiloseish18:25
theblazehendigital ocean*18:25
theblazehen$11/year isn't much though18:26
theblazehenOne of the cheapest 18:26
Kilosevery cent here goes to data and saving for a quadcore pc18:27
theblazehenah ok18:27
Kiloshaha and meds18:28
theblazehenkk18:28
Kiloswould be nice if it was just the bot18:29
Kilosthats a coupla megs18:29
theblazehenyeah. 18:30
theblazehenKilos, http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CE4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.python.org%2Fmoin%2FFreeHosts&ei=40EeUpbwOcu0hAeTzoDAAQ&usg=AFQjCNEFbR4lZqMGGJyuUVqkUQr9LarkXg&sig2=w__2MLLl9I6mhYQYLbtbtg&bvm=bv.51156542,d.ZG418:31
theblazehenoops http://wiki.python.org/moin/FreeHosts18:31
Trixar_zaI think18:33
Trixar_zaI will sneak in xyzzy into my linux18:34
theblazehenTrixar_za, xyzzy?18:34
theblazehenI think I have heard that before, but what is it18:34
theblazehenah colossal cave adventure18:34
Trixar_zaYeah18:35
Trixar_zaThey also name the IF awards after it18:35
Trixar_zaIt will just be an alias for echo "Nothing Happens"18:35
theblazehenkk18:36
Kiloseish that wiki has been attacked18:36
theblazehenyeah18:36
Kilosand 250 meg is too small18:37
Kilosubuntu needs at least 4g18:37
Kilosnever mind to have to install from here to there will eat a years data18:38
Kilosand take 6 months at our upload speeds18:38
theblazehenkk18:39
Kilosill keep her running here and use in the class when im online18:39
theblazehenkk18:40
Kilosnot here on my channel18:40
Kilosi wonder if one cant host just the bot somewhere on irc?18:40
Kilostumbleweed, any ideas where and how to host just an ibid?18:41
Kilosinetpro, waar is die ai!18:43
nuvolariwhee! recompiling alpine18:43
nuvolarifor gmail password support18:43
nuvolariack18:46
nuvolari:/18:46
Kiloseina18:46
inetprohmmm...18:46
theblazehennuvolari, FIN18:46
Kilosnaand boet18:46
inetproKilos: go to http://instantserver.io/18:46
theblazeheninetpro, only 30 min18:46
Kilosok ty18:47
theblazehenJust get an amazon micro.18:47
inetprotheblazehen: true, but he will be able to test and see18:47
theblazehenYep18:47
theblazehenWill need a vpn though18:47
inetproKilos: install your bot in there for a quick test18:47
Kilosinstant server18:48
Kilosthat takes a week to open18:48
inetproai!18:48
Kiloslol18:48
theblazehenLol you should have been there on first day18:48
theblazehentook over 2 hours18:48
Kilosdoes it actually work??18:50
Kilosmust i use the fox?18:50
Kilosstcks on elements 6/718:51
Kilossticks18:51
Kiloswith a bot there if you order coffee now youll get it christmas18:52
KilosMeteor18:53
KilosThis site is down. Try again later.18:53
Kilosinetpro, maak reg man18:54
Kilosshame looks like mage is asleep18:55
magespawnno still here but racing pixel cars18:55
Kiloslol18:55
Kilosi was hoping starting up the classes again would attract some peeps from the list18:56
magespawnspend all day driving then come home and race to relax18:56
Kiloshehe18:56
magespawnwe will message them and the lugs18:56
inetproeish!18:57
* inetpro just ran OOB18:57
Kilosive given up asking for list peeps to join use18:57
inetpronow on a slow Vodacom18:57
inetpro10GB gone for the month18:57
Kiloswow18:57
nuvolariwe're turning into bandwidth-zombies18:58
nuvolarimoar! we want moar!18:58
Kiloshaha18:58
inetpro10GB is way too little18:58
magespawnDid you see the  report? Top users are in the Tb range18:59
nuvolariI thought 8ta's 60gb would at least last 6 months. How wrong could I be?18:59
Kilosper month?18:59
magespawnyup18:59
inetproKilos: yes, I could do with 10GB a day18:59
nuvolariinternet tv is on the way19:00
Kilosi thought i was bad. ive near finished a 2+1 this month19:00
nuvolariso prices need to drop quick!19:00
Kiloscant afford tv on mobile broadband19:00
nuvolarihah! I remember back in high school we talked about fast when we could download an mp3 in 20 minutes19:01
Kilosthat will cripple anyone not on uncapped19:01
nuvolariI need to move19:01
nuvolariget my own place19:01
Kiloslol like when i started19:01
nuvolariso I can get uncapped too19:01
Kilos4m in 12mins19:01
nuvolariI remember the day edge was a step up from gprs...19:02
Kilosyeah19:02
nuvolarilol, now we feel powerless on an edge connection19:03
Kilos9.04 took me 9 hours t0 upgrade19:03
nuvolarigood grief! my netbook is going to melt while compiling alpine 19:03
nuvolarigeezlike oom Kilos!19:03
Kilosja hele nag19:04
nuvolariI never trusted ZA webs enough to do an upgrade online19:04
Kilosim talking about an install then the update/upgrade19:04
Kilosnot online upgrade19:05
* inetpro gaan slaap19:08
inetprogood night everyone19:08
Kilosnight inetpro sleep tight19:08
Kilosactually thats a good idea. sleep tight all you younguns19:09
magespawnIndeed good night all19:11
theblazehennight magespawn 19:11

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