[05:16] <Kilos> morning psychicist and others
[05:17] <Trixar_za> Morning Kilos
[05:18] <Kilos> ohi Trixar_za are you winning?
[05:18] <Trixar_za> And I'm officially seen everything. I just had to take away one of those scissors that cut through anything from a dog that thought it was a good idea to chew it
[05:18] <Trixar_za> It was running around with it
[05:19] <Kilos> *i've
[05:20] <Trixar_za> You'd think a 7 month old dog would have learned better by now :/
[05:20] <Kilos> hehe animals do the weirdest things
[05:33] <theblazehen> kbmonkey, yeah. even have a github
[05:35] <Trixar_za> I think most people have a github these days :P
[05:35] <Trixar_za> Well, Linux people anyway
[05:35] <theblazehen> yeah :p
[05:35] <Trixar_za> It's like the cool thing to do :P
[05:36] <theblazehen> true
[06:06] <barrydk> Good morning everyone
[06:06] <Kilos> hi barrydk 
[06:06] <barrydk> Hoe gaan dit Kilos 
[06:06] <Kilos> goed dankie en self
[06:06] <Kilos> als werk by my, en by jou?
[06:07] <barrydk> Nie veel nuwe probleme nie. 
[06:07] <Kilos> waart is mazal?
[06:08] <Kilos> waar
[06:08] <barrydk> Hy hou nog bietjie vakansie. Sal Maandag terug wees as ons gespaar bly
[06:08] <Kilos> aha
[06:11] <nuvolari> o/ mornings oom Kilos 
[06:11] <nuvolari> more barrydk 
[06:11] <Kilos> lo nuvolari nice to see you here so early
[06:12] <barrydk> More nov
[06:12] <nuvolari> ya, was fixing jabber connection
[06:12] <nuvolari> nice thing about CLI chat apps
[06:12] <nuvolari> you stash everything together :P
[06:12] <nuvolari> irc + jabber
[06:16] <nuvolari> *nuv*
[06:16]  * nuvolari hints at tab-completion
[06:16] <nuvolari> :P
[06:16] <Kilos> hehe
[06:19] <Trixar_za> Why not just an IRC client and connect to a bitlbee server
[06:24] <nuvolari> Trixar_za: that's what I have set up
[06:24] <nuvolari> :P
[06:27] <Trixar_za> Nice :P
[06:41] <magespawn> good morning all
[06:41] <Kilos> hi magespawn wb
[06:42] <magespawn> thanks been a bit busy
[06:42] <Kilos> looks like
[06:42] <Kilos> 1 day 9 hours
[06:43] <magespawn> yup was in the shop briefly yesterday and going to be back on the road from 11 today
[06:43] <Kilos> whew with game stuff?
[06:44] <magespawn> transfers and monthly shopping in richards bay
[06:44] <magespawn> back to back transfers today
[06:44] <Kilos> ah
[06:44] <Kilos> game?
[06:45] <magespawn> moving people from hotels to airports and orther people back again
[06:45] <magespawn> other as well
[06:45] <Kilos> aha
[06:45] <Kilos> time to find a geek job you can do from the shop
[06:45] <Kilos> peeps are pains
[06:46] <Kilos> game is fine, if they give hassles you shoot them
[06:46] <Kilos> and make biltong
[06:46] <magespawn> bit harsh but okay
[06:46] <Kilos> haha
[06:47] <magespawn> people coming on holiday are usually nice to deal with
[06:47] <Kilos> ah thats good
[07:01] <magespawn> if you can relate well to people then most problems are not that big
[07:02] <Kilos> hehe
[07:23] <Squirm> any issues with the tenet sourceforge mirror?
[07:23]  * Squirm prods Symmetria 
[07:26] <magespawn> Kilos looks like tha guys are pretty fired up about the #linux-studies
[07:26] <magespawn> Maaz seen Symmetria
[07:26] <Maaz> magespawn: Symmetria was last seen 24 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes and 27 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-08-03 19:06:27 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2013-08-25 15:36:26 SAST
[07:27] <Squirm> 24days??
[07:27]  * Squirm kicks Symmetria 
[07:28] <Squirm> I think it's just my internet though. download hangs
[07:28] <magespawn> I think he got lost in Kenya somewhere
[07:29] <Squirm> worrying
[07:30] <Squirm> and I don't think he runs it anymore, he is just a wealth of knowledge for us to use though :P
[07:30] <magespawn> he does still have access to their systems though, i think
[07:32] <Kilos> yeah magespawn just min
[07:32] <Kilos> yo theblazehen 
[07:32] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[07:32] <Kilos> its a massive amount of reading
[07:33] <magespawn> and learning too Kilos
[07:33] <Kilos> sigh
[07:34] <Kilos> i wish one knew what in that manual was for basic knowledge and what is actually used
[07:34] <Kilos> like runlevels thats all auto stuff
[07:36] <theblazehen> Kilos, runlevels are sometimes usefull
[07:36] <Trixar_za> runlevels? Are you talking systemd?
[07:37] <theblazehen> sysvinit I think
[07:37] <Kilos> yeah the deep down stuff
[07:39] <Kilos> anyone got an idea what onnet link to use to check airtime and data on vodacom modem?
[07:39] <Kilos> my 8ta one works kiff but sis needs it to tell her voda stuff
[07:41] <Trixar_za> I use busybox's init, so I really don't know much about either :P
[07:49] <Kilos> Trixar_za, you not interested in doing LPI
[07:49] <Kilos> ?
[07:50] <Kilos> might be handy to have the certificate when job hunting
[08:00] <Trixar_za> I tried to once, but it never worked out
[08:01] <Trixar_za> Anyway, it's better to get a redhat certificated qualification anyway
[08:02] <Kilos> i dunno
[08:03] <Kilos> hi psyatw Cantide 
[08:03] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:05] <Cantide> hello '<
[08:08] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[08:09] <psyatw> hoi Cantide :)
[08:09] <psyatw> hi ma
[08:09] <psyatw> maiatoday: 
[08:09] <psyatw> hi Vince-0
[08:10] <maiatoday> ello psyatw 
[08:10] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[08:12] <maiatoday> hey Kilos
[08:13] <Vince-0> herrow
[08:25] <magespawn> bbl, off driving
[08:25] <Kilos> go safe magespawn 
[08:45] <Squirm> Trixar_za: RH and LPI I'd say are both good
[08:45] <Squirm> some of the LPI stuff I haven't covered
[08:45] <Squirm> I still need to rewrite :/
[08:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peeps
[08:59] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:00] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[09:04] <superfly> hi Kilos
[12:00] <not_found> quiet when uncle Kilos isn't here to greet everyone...
[12:07] <inetpro> not_found: Happy Birthday!
[12:11] <not_found> :D thanks inetpro ...
[12:55]  * not_found is sorry he missed the meeting on Monday... did go through the minutes... if someone sees RMS give him a piece of cake...
[13:16] <not_found> http://www.uopeople.org/
[13:16] <not_found> interesting concept...
[13:17] <Trixar_za> wow
[13:17] <Trixar_za> Yeah
[13:19] <Trixar_za> And there is the catch
[13:19] <Trixar_za> In order to remain sustainable, we charge small processing fees for application and examination processing. Applicants are charged a non-refundable onetime $10-$50 Application Processing Fee to cover the cost for us to review and process an application. The amount charged is based on the applicant’s place of residence – applicants from developing countries pay a lower amount. UoPeople charges an Exam Processing Fee of $100 per e
[13:19] <Trixar_za> nd-of-course exam.
[13:27] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:27] <Kilos> yo not_found 
[13:27] <not_found> Trixar_za: ah but if you compare the costs of a full degree with the costs of the exams and once of registration ... well you can't really :p (and there is ways to actually get sponsored if you really need it)
[13:27] <not_found> alo uncle Kilos
[13:28]  * not_found doesn't care that it is free... but is nice to do a full degree like that online ...
[13:28] <not_found> and it not being UNISA :/
[13:28] <Trixar_za> Yeah, but they're not accredited yet
[13:29] <Trixar_za> But yeah, it would be nice if we had something similiar in South Africa
[13:29] <not_found> the fact that they aren't accredited means to me I will study there to learn something as opposed to getting a piece of paper :p
[13:30] <Trixar_za> lol
[13:30] <not_found> well anybody can study there, no matter the country
[13:30] <Trixar_za> Don't some American Universities put their course material on the internet for free?
[13:31] <not_found> MIT
[13:32] <not_found> and some others...
[13:32] <not_found> difference being here you actually write an exam and have to pass...
[13:32] <not_found> for ones like me with very little motivation that can be pretty sweet ...
[13:33] <Trixar_za> True
[13:33] <Trixar_za> I'd probably leave it to the last minute though
[13:36] <Trixar_za> Also don't tell me I missed RMS in South Africa :(
[13:39] <not_found> not yet :p
[13:39] <Trixar_za> Ah, only on the 5th
[13:42] <not_found> bye
[14:14] <Kilos> you gonna go see him Trixar_za ?
[14:15] <Trixar_za> If I can find a way there
[14:15] <Trixar_za> I did reserve a seat just in case
[14:15] <Trixar_za> ;P
[14:15] <Kilos> you far from there?
[14:15] <Trixar_za> About 20 minutes drive
[14:15] <Kilos> must be someone travelling past that way
[14:16] <Kilos> dont do like Cantide and seize pops car
[14:17] <Kilos> are you in the cape flats?
[14:17] <Cantide> lol
[14:18] <Kilos> shame thats gonna cost big
[14:20] <Cantide> he had a look today - and he found bits of plastic in the oil pump - somehow some plastic part inside broke into little bits and clogged it
[14:20] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[14:20] <Kilos> ouch
[14:20] <Cantide> yeah :S
[14:21] <Cantide> well, he was a mechanic
[14:21] <Cantide> so it gives him something to do :0
[14:21] <Cantide> okay, i'm tooooo hungry right now
[14:21] <Cantide> so brb
[14:21] <Kilos> thats lucky
[14:21] <Kilos> that cuts costs in less than half of having it done
[14:22] <Cantide> yeah, some mechanics are such ripoffs these days
[14:22] <Cantide> cars are becoming harder to fix and people are losing their DIY skills :/
[14:22] <Cantide> sad world
[14:23] <Kilos> yeah all become computer diagnostic stuff
[14:23] <Cantide> yeah
[14:23] <Trixar_za> No, I'm in Brackenfell
[14:23] <Cantide> okay... time to scavenge in the kitchen
[14:23] <Cantide> brb
[15:19] <nuvolari> home time
[15:19] <nuvolari> bbiab
[15:19] <Kilos> mooi ry
[15:19] <nuvolari> ek maak so dankie oom!
[15:52] <Kilos> bbl
[16:13] <charl> good evening
[16:13] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[16:13]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[16:17] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[16:20] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[16:20] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[16:35] <nocware> Evening.
[16:36] <Vince-0> g
[16:36] <Vince-0> d'eve
[16:39] <nocware> gud.
[16:39] <nocware> do u use wine by any chance? on a separate partition...
[16:41] <Vince-0> negative
[16:44] <nocware> ohh...
[16:44] <nocware> ok
[16:52] <nocware> its fine...was just some file permission problems i was having.
[16:53] <theblazehen> hi guys
[17:06] <nuvolari> oh hi! it's not_found's bday
[17:06] <Kilos> aw
[17:07] <nuvolari> howdy theblazehen, oom Kilos, nocware, Vince-0, psychicist, charl 
[17:07] <theblazehen> hey nuvolari 
[17:07] <Kilos> Maaz, tell not_found on freenode Happy birthday laddy
[17:07] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell not_found on freenode
[17:07] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[17:07] <theblazehen> hey Kilos 
[17:07] <Kilos> yo theblazehen 
[17:08] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[17:09] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, you got probs?
[17:09] <Vince-0> surpdurp
[17:09] <Kilos> yo Vince-0 
[17:10] <Vince-0> got me a (t)ubuntu distro running on armv7 tegra2 device
[17:10] <Kilos> (t) ?
[17:11] <nocware> hey nuvolari
[17:11] <theblazehen> Kilos: tegra?
[17:11] <Kilos> whats that?
[17:11] <Vince-0> touch
[17:11] <Vince-0> but not touch
[17:11] <Kilos> ah
[17:12] <Vince-0> its actually lubuntu I think, but so many hacks
[17:12] <magespawn> good evening all
[17:12] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[17:12] <Kilos> long day
[17:13] <magespawn> yup, got another one tomorrow
[17:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:15] <magespawn> not too bad, but the pc work does suffer a bit
[17:18] <Kilos> yeah and study time
[17:24] <magespawn> yup got to read th lpic manual to prepare for the first meeting on friday
[17:29] <Kilos> whew
[17:42] <Kilos> to divide with maaz you do 10/2 for example, how do you multiply?
[17:42] <Kilos> hi drussell all good?
[17:43] <drussell> Kilos: yes! how about you?
[17:43] <theblazehen> Maaz 10*2
[17:43] <Maaz> theblazehen: 20
[17:43] <Kilos> yes ty
[17:43] <Kilos> ty theblazehen 
[17:43] <theblazehen> np
[17:44] <Kilos> you gonna start with LPI on friday?
[17:44] <theblazehen> Gotta read up a bit more.
[17:45] <theblazehen> Been struggling with CSS the whole day
[17:45] <Kilos> theres only 7 of us in the learning channel
[17:46] <Kilos> was hoping for lots more
[17:46] <theblazehen> http://i.imgur.com/Q3cUg29.gif
[17:46] <magespawn> i was thinking this friday we could meet and great, get a bit more organised, spread the word etc
[17:46] <Kilos> meet and greet?
[17:46] <Kilos> maybe thats better magespawn 
[17:47] <magespawn> indeed
[17:47] <magespawn> brain is still in driving mode
[17:48] <magespawn> lol theblazehen css can do fun things 
[17:49] <Kilos> haha
[17:49] <Kilos> boys and their toys
[17:51] <magespawn> Kilos: css is one of things that controls the way a website looks
[17:52] <Kilos> oh not a blind opener
[17:55] <magespawn> no thats the joke though.
[17:55] <Kilos> lol
[17:55] <magespawn> css = Cascading Style Sheets
[17:56] <Kilos> sjoe enought
[17:56] <Kilos> too much lpi and router reading
[17:56] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_Style_Sheets
[17:56] <Kilos> next week
[17:57] <Kilos> vodacom wasted data today trying to fix sisters email with them
[17:58]  * Kilos hates vodacom
[17:58] <Kilos> but mtn more
[17:59] <magespawn> in firefox there is a tool called view source which will let you see the html and css behind any website you are looking at
[17:59] <theblazehen> magespawn, Really usefull :) 
[17:59] <theblazehen> Any idea how to get it to force a refresh?
[18:00] <theblazehen> Sometimes it still loads data in cache
[18:00] <magespawn> yup i love firefox extensions for viewing page code
[18:00] <magespawn> theblazehen: firefox
[18:00] <magespawn> ?
[18:01] <theblazehen> yep
[18:01] <theblazehen> sorry was reading agenda for SFD
[18:02] <magespawn> not sure my firefox is set to clear everything when it closes
[18:03] <theblazehen> Yeah, I'm talking while it's still open though
[18:11] <magespawn> lets see
[18:14] <magespawn> firefox button > options > advanced > clear cache options > clear now
[18:15] <magespawn> or install this https://addons.mozilla.org/en/firefox/addon/empty-cache-button/
[18:15] <theblazehen> ty magespawn 
[18:15] <magespawn> your welcome
[18:15] <magespawn> you are
[18:16] <magespawn> brian is offline
[18:16] <theblazehen> who's brian? :p
[18:16] <theblazehen> s/brian/brain/g
[18:17] <magespawn> see what i mean
[18:17] <theblazehen> yeah
[18:18] <magespawn> had to read that more than once
[18:18] <theblazehen> lol
[18:18] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <magespawn> warm enough here tonight to want the fans on
[18:21] <Kilos> cold coming tomorrow or friday
[18:21] <theblazehen> I don't want summer :(
[18:22] <Kilos> hey magespawn to host a bot you need to have ubuntu installed there as well?
[18:22] <theblazehen> Got a pentium4 :(
[18:22] <Trixar_za> http://www.lolzhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/eQRZ24M.jpg
[18:22] <Trixar_za> *coff*
[18:22] <theblazehen> Kilos, which kind of bot?
[18:22] <Kilos> there is only one kind
[18:22] <Kilos> ibid
[18:22] <theblazehen> Can probably run on other *nix or windows
[18:23] <Kilos> yeah but the host i mean
[18:23] <Kilos> lotsa space needed
[18:23] <theblazehen> Really? Would think only a few MB
[18:23] <Kilos> and gotta be online 24/7
[18:24] <Kilos> yeah but dont you need the OS there as well?
[18:24] <theblazehen> yeah
[18:24] <theblazehen> For $11/year I can get a host
[18:24] <Kilos> so its like a buntu install then the bot in there
[18:24] <theblazehen> Yep
[18:24] <Kilos> no man must be free
[18:25] <theblazehen> ok. You can get hosting for a week at a time then
[18:25] <theblazehen> search trial VPS
[18:25] <theblazehen> didital ocean has, rsaweb had
[18:25] <Kilos> eish
[18:25] <theblazehen> digital ocean*
[18:26] <theblazehen> $11/year isn't much though
[18:26] <theblazehen> One of the cheapest 
[18:27] <Kilos> every cent here goes to data and saving for a quadcore pc
[18:27] <theblazehen> ah ok
[18:28] <Kilos> haha and meds
[18:28] <theblazehen> kk
[18:29] <Kilos> would be nice if it was just the bot
[18:29] <Kilos> thats a coupla megs
[18:30] <theblazehen> yeah. 
[18:31] <theblazehen> Kilos, http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CE4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.python.org%2Fmoin%2FFreeHosts&ei=40EeUpbwOcu0hAeTzoDAAQ&usg=AFQjCNEFbR4lZqMGGJyuUVqkUQr9LarkXg&sig2=w__2MLLl9I6mhYQYLbtbtg&bvm=bv.51156542,d.ZG4
[18:31] <theblazehen> oops http://wiki.python.org/moin/FreeHosts
[18:33] <Trixar_za> I think
[18:34] <Trixar_za> I will sneak in xyzzy into my linux
[18:34] <theblazehen> Trixar_za, xyzzy?
[18:34] <theblazehen> I think I have heard that before, but what is it
[18:34] <theblazehen> ah colossal cave adventure
[18:35] <Trixar_za> Yeah
[18:35] <Trixar_za> They also name the IF awards after it
[18:35] <Trixar_za> It will just be an alias for echo "Nothing Happens"
[18:36] <theblazehen> kk
[18:36] <Kilos> eish that wiki has been attacked
[18:36] <theblazehen> yeah
[18:37] <Kilos> and 250 meg is too small
[18:37] <Kilos> ubuntu needs at least 4g
[18:38] <Kilos> never mind to have to install from here to there will eat a years data
[18:38] <Kilos> and take 6 months at our upload speeds
[18:39] <theblazehen> kk
[18:39] <Kilos> ill keep her running here and use in the class when im online
[18:40] <theblazehen> kk
[18:40] <Kilos> not here on my channel
[18:40] <Kilos> i wonder if one cant host just the bot somewhere on irc?
[18:41] <Kilos> tumbleweed, any ideas where and how to host just an ibid?
[18:43] <Kilos> inetpro, waar is die ai!
[18:43] <nuvolari> whee! recompiling alpine
[18:43] <nuvolari> for gmail password support
[18:46] <nuvolari> ack
[18:46] <nuvolari> :/
[18:46] <Kilos> eina
[18:46] <inetpro> hmmm...
[18:46] <theblazehen> nuvolari, FIN
[18:46] <Kilos> naand boet
[18:46] <inetpro> Kilos: go to http://instantserver.io/
[18:46] <theblazehen> inetpro, only 30 min
[18:47] <Kilos> ok ty
[18:47] <theblazehen> Just get an amazon micro.
[18:47] <inetpro> theblazehen: true, but he will be able to test and see
[18:47] <theblazehen> Yep
[18:47] <theblazehen> Will need a vpn though
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: install your bot in there for a quick test
[18:48] <Kilos> instant server
[18:48] <Kilos> that takes a week to open
[18:48] <inetpro> ai!
[18:48] <Kilos> lol
[18:48] <theblazehen> Lol you should have been there on first day
[18:48] <theblazehen> took over 2 hours
[18:50] <Kilos> does it actually work??
[18:50] <Kilos> must i use the fox?
[18:51] <Kilos> stcks on elements 6/7
[18:51] <Kilos> sticks
[18:52] <Kilos> with a bot there if you order coffee now youll get it christmas
[18:53] <Kilos> Meteor
[18:53] <Kilos> This site is down. Try again later.
[18:54] <Kilos> inetpro, maak reg man
[18:55] <Kilos> shame looks like mage is asleep
[18:55] <magespawn> no still here but racing pixel cars
[18:55] <Kilos> lol
[18:56] <Kilos> i was hoping starting up the classes again would attract some peeps from the list
[18:56] <magespawn> spend all day driving then come home and race to relax
[18:56] <Kilos> hehe
[18:56] <magespawn> we will message them and the lugs
[18:57] <inetpro> eish!
[18:57]  * inetpro just ran OOB
[18:57] <Kilos> ive given up asking for list peeps to join use
[18:57] <inetpro> now on a slow Vodacom
[18:57] <inetpro> 10GB gone for the month
[18:57] <Kilos> wow
[18:58] <nuvolari> we're turning into bandwidth-zombies
[18:58] <nuvolari> moar! we want moar!
[18:58] <Kilos> haha
[18:58] <inetpro> 10GB is way too little
[18:59] <magespawn> Did you see the  report? Top users are in the Tb range
[18:59] <nuvolari> I thought 8ta's 60gb would at least last 6 months. How wrong could I be?
[18:59] <Kilos> per month?
[18:59] <magespawn> yup
[18:59] <inetpro> Kilos: yes, I could do with 10GB a day
[19:00] <nuvolari> internet tv is on the way
[19:00] <Kilos> i thought i was bad. ive near finished a 2+1 this month
[19:00] <nuvolari> so prices need to drop quick!
[19:00] <Kilos> cant afford tv on mobile broadband
[19:01] <nuvolari> hah! I remember back in high school we talked about fast when we could download an mp3 in 20 minutes
[19:01] <Kilos> that will cripple anyone not on uncapped
[19:01] <nuvolari> I need to move
[19:01] <nuvolari> get my own place
[19:01] <Kilos> lol like when i started
[19:01] <nuvolari> so I can get uncapped too
[19:01] <Kilos> 4m in 12mins
[19:02] <nuvolari> I remember the day edge was a step up from gprs...
[19:02] <Kilos> yeah
[19:03] <nuvolari> lol, now we feel powerless on an edge connection
[19:03] <Kilos> 9.04 took me 9 hours t0 upgrade
[19:03] <nuvolari> good grief! my netbook is going to melt while compiling alpine 
[19:03] <nuvolari> geezlike oom Kilos!
[19:04] <Kilos> ja hele nag
[19:04] <nuvolari> I never trusted ZA webs enough to do an upgrade online
[19:04] <Kilos> im talking about an install then the update/upgrade
[19:05] <Kilos> not online upgrade
[19:08]  * inetpro gaan slaap
[19:08] <inetpro> good night everyone
[19:08] <Kilos> night inetpro sleep tight
[19:09] <Kilos> actually thats a good idea. sleep tight all you younguns
[19:11] <magespawn> Indeed good night all
[19:11] <theblazehen> night magespawn