[05:16] morning psychicist and others [05:17] Morning Kilos [05:18] ohi Trixar_za are you winning? [05:18] And I'm officially seen everything. I just had to take away one of those scissors that cut through anything from a dog that thought it was a good idea to chew it [05:18] It was running around with it [05:19] *i've [05:20] You'd think a 7 month old dog would have learned better by now :/ [05:20] hehe animals do the weirdest things [05:33] kbmonkey, yeah. even have a github [05:35] I think most people have a github these days :P [05:35] Well, Linux people anyway [05:35] yeah :p [05:35] It's like the cool thing to do :P [05:36] true [06:06] Good morning everyone [06:06] hi barrydk [06:06] Hoe gaan dit Kilos [06:06] goed dankie en self [06:06] als werk by my, en by jou? [06:07] Nie veel nuwe probleme nie. [06:07] waart is mazal? [06:08] waar [06:08] Hy hou nog bietjie vakansie. Sal Maandag terug wees as ons gespaar bly [06:08] aha [06:11] o/ mornings oom Kilos [06:11] more barrydk [06:11] lo nuvolari nice to see you here so early [06:12] More nov [06:12] ya, was fixing jabber connection [06:12] nice thing about CLI chat apps [06:12] you stash everything together :P [06:12] irc + jabber [06:16] *nuv* [06:16] * nuvolari hints at tab-completion [06:16] :P [06:16] hehe [06:19] Why not just an IRC client and connect to a bitlbee server [06:24] Trixar_za: that's what I have set up [06:24] :P [06:27] Nice :P [06:41] good morning all [06:41] hi magespawn wb [06:42] thanks been a bit busy [06:42] looks like [06:42] 1 day 9 hours [06:43] yup was in the shop briefly yesterday and going to be back on the road from 11 today [06:43] whew with game stuff? [06:44] transfers and monthly shopping in richards bay [06:44] back to back transfers today [06:44] ah [06:44] game? [06:45] moving people from hotels to airports and orther people back again [06:45] other as well [06:45] aha [06:45] time to find a geek job you can do from the shop [06:45] peeps are pains [06:46] game is fine, if they give hassles you shoot them [06:46] and make biltong [06:46] bit harsh but okay [06:46] haha [06:47] people coming on holiday are usually nice to deal with [06:47] ah thats good [07:01] if you can relate well to people then most problems are not that big [07:02] hehe [07:23] any issues with the tenet sourceforge mirror? [07:23] * Squirm prods Symmetria [07:26] Kilos looks like tha guys are pretty fired up about the #linux-studies [07:26] Maaz seen Symmetria [07:26] magespawn: Symmetria was last seen 24 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes and 27 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-08-03 19:06:27 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2013-08-25 15:36:26 SAST [07:27] 24days?? [07:27] * Squirm kicks Symmetria [07:28] I think it's just my internet though. download hangs [07:28] I think he got lost in Kenya somewhere [07:29] worrying [07:30] and I don't think he runs it anymore, he is just a wealth of knowledge for us to use though :P [07:30] he does still have access to their systems though, i think [07:32] yeah magespawn just min [07:32] yo theblazehen [07:32] hi Kilos [07:32] its a massive amount of reading [07:33] and learning too Kilos [07:33] sigh [07:34] i wish one knew what in that manual was for basic knowledge and what is actually used [07:34] like runlevels thats all auto stuff [07:36] Kilos, runlevels are sometimes usefull [07:36] runlevels? Are you talking systemd? [07:37] sysvinit I think [07:37] yeah the deep down stuff [07:39] anyone got an idea what onnet link to use to check airtime and data on vodacom modem? [07:39] my 8ta one works kiff but sis needs it to tell her voda stuff [07:41] I use busybox's init, so I really don't know much about either :P [07:49] Trixar_za, you not interested in doing LPI [07:49] ? [07:50] might be handy to have the certificate when job hunting [08:00] I tried to once, but it never worked out [08:01] Anyway, it's better to get a redhat certificated qualification anyway [08:02] i dunno [08:03] hi psyatw Cantide [08:03] hi Kilos [08:05] hello '< [08:08] hi Vince-0 [08:09] hoi Cantide :) [08:09] hi ma [08:09] maiatoday: [08:09] hi Vince-0 [08:10] ello psyatw [08:10] hiya maiatoday [08:12] hey Kilos [08:13] herrow [08:25] bbl, off driving [08:25] go safe magespawn [08:45] Trixar_za: RH and LPI I'd say are both good [08:45] some of the LPI stuff I haven't covered [08:45] I still need to rewrite :/ [08:59] morning peeps [08:59] hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:00] morning superfly [09:04] hi Kilos === Cantide is now known as CantiAFK [12:00] quiet when uncle Kilos isn't here to greet everyone... [12:07] not_found: Happy Birthday! [12:11] :D thanks inetpro ... [12:55] * not_found is sorry he missed the meeting on Monday... did go through the minutes... if someone sees RMS give him a piece of cake... [13:16] http://www.uopeople.org/ [13:16] interesting concept... [13:17] wow [13:17] Yeah [13:19] And there is the catch [13:19] In order to remain sustainable, we charge small processing fees for application and examination processing. Applicants are charged a non-refundable onetime $10-$50 Application Processing Fee to cover the cost for us to review and process an application. The amount charged is based on the applicant’s place of residence – applicants from developing countries pay a lower amount. UoPeople charges an Exam Processing Fee of $100 per e [13:19] nd-of-course exam. [13:27] hmm... [13:27] yo not_found [13:27] Trixar_za: ah but if you compare the costs of a full degree with the costs of the exams and once of registration ... well you can't really :p (and there is ways to actually get sponsored if you really need it) [13:27] alo uncle Kilos [13:28] * not_found doesn't care that it is free... but is nice to do a full degree like that online ... [13:28] and it not being UNISA :/ [13:28] Yeah, but they're not accredited yet [13:29] But yeah, it would be nice if we had something similiar in South Africa [13:29] the fact that they aren't accredited means to me I will study there to learn something as opposed to getting a piece of paper :p [13:30] lol [13:30] well anybody can study there, no matter the country [13:30] Don't some American Universities put their course material on the internet for free? [13:31] MIT [13:32] and some others... [13:32] difference being here you actually write an exam and have to pass... === CantiAFK is now known as Cantide [13:32] for ones like me with very little motivation that can be pretty sweet ... [13:33] True [13:33] I'd probably leave it to the last minute though [13:36] Also don't tell me I missed RMS in South Africa :( [13:39] not yet :p [13:39] Ah, only on the 5th [13:42] bye [14:14] you gonna go see him Trixar_za ? [14:15] If I can find a way there [14:15] I did reserve a seat just in case [14:15] ;P [14:15] you far from there? [14:15] About 20 minutes drive [14:15] must be someone travelling past that way [14:16] dont do like Cantide and seize pops car [14:17] are you in the cape flats? [14:17] lol [14:18] shame thats gonna cost big [14:20] he had a look today - and he found bits of plastic in the oil pump - somehow some plastic part inside broke into little bits and clogged it [14:20] wb magespawn [14:20] ouch [14:20] yeah :S [14:21] well, he was a mechanic [14:21] so it gives him something to do :0 [14:21] okay, i'm tooooo hungry right now [14:21] so brb [14:21] thats lucky [14:21] that cuts costs in less than half of having it done [14:22] yeah, some mechanics are such ripoffs these days [14:22] cars are becoming harder to fix and people are losing their DIY skills :/ [14:22] sad world [14:23] yeah all become computer diagnostic stuff [14:23] yeah [14:23] No, I'm in Brackenfell [14:23] okay... time to scavenge in the kitchen [14:23] brb === Cantide is now known as CantiAFK [15:19] home time [15:19] bbiab [15:19] mooi ry [15:19] ek maak so dankie oom! [15:52] bbl [16:13] good evening [16:13] Maaz: coffee on [16:13] * Maaz puts the kettle on [16:17] Coffee's ready for charl! [16:20] Maaz: thanks [16:20] charl: Sure [16:35] Evening. [16:36] g [16:36] d'eve [16:39] gud. [16:39] do u use wine by any chance? on a separate partition... [16:41] negative [16:44] ohh... [16:44] ok [16:52] its fine...was just some file permission problems i was having. [16:53] hi guys [17:06] oh hi! it's not_found's bday [17:06] aw [17:07] howdy theblazehen, oom Kilos, nocware, Vince-0, psychicist, charl [17:07] hey nuvolari [17:07] Maaz, tell not_found on freenode Happy birthday laddy [17:07] Kilos: Sure, I'll tell not_found on freenode [17:07] lo nuvolari [17:07] hey Kilos [17:07] yo theblazehen [17:08] hi psychicist [17:09] ThatGraemeGuy, you got probs? [17:09] surpdurp [17:09] yo Vince-0 [17:10] got me a (t)ubuntu distro running on armv7 tegra2 device [17:10] (t) ? [17:11] hey nuvolari [17:11] Kilos: tegra? [17:11] whats that? [17:11] touch [17:11] but not touch [17:11] ah [17:12] its actually lubuntu I think, but so many hacks [17:12] good evening all [17:12] wb magespawn [17:12] long day [17:13] yup, got another one tomorrow [17:13] sjoe [17:15] not too bad, but the pc work does suffer a bit [17:18] yeah and study time [17:24] yup got to read th lpic manual to prepare for the first meeting on friday [17:29] whew [17:42] to divide with maaz you do 10/2 for example, how do you multiply? [17:42] hi drussell all good? [17:43] Kilos: yes! how about you? [17:43] Maaz 10*2 [17:43] theblazehen: 20 [17:43] yes ty [17:43] ty theblazehen [17:43] np [17:44] you gonna start with LPI on friday? [17:44] Gotta read up a bit more. [17:45] Been struggling with CSS the whole day [17:45] theres only 7 of us in the learning channel [17:46] was hoping for lots more [17:46] http://i.imgur.com/Q3cUg29.gif [17:46] i was thinking this friday we could meet and great, get a bit more organised, spread the word etc [17:46] meet and greet? [17:46] maybe thats better magespawn [17:47] indeed [17:47] brain is still in driving mode [17:48] lol theblazehen css can do fun things [17:49] haha [17:49] boys and their toys [17:51] Kilos: css is one of things that controls the way a website looks [17:52] oh not a blind opener [17:55] no thats the joke though. [17:55] lol [17:55] css = Cascading Style Sheets [17:56] sjoe enought [17:56] too much lpi and router reading [17:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_Style_Sheets [17:56] next week [17:57] vodacom wasted data today trying to fix sisters email with them [17:58] * Kilos hates vodacom [17:58] but mtn more [17:59] in firefox there is a tool called view source which will let you see the html and css behind any website you are looking at [17:59] magespawn, Really usefull :) [17:59] Any idea how to get it to force a refresh? [18:00] Sometimes it still loads data in cache [18:00] yup i love firefox extensions for viewing page code [18:00] theblazehen: firefox [18:00] ? [18:01] yep [18:01] sorry was reading agenda for SFD [18:02] not sure my firefox is set to clear everything when it closes [18:03] Yeah, I'm talking while it's still open though [18:11] lets see [18:14] firefox button > options > advanced > clear cache options > clear now [18:15] or install this https://addons.mozilla.org/en/firefox/addon/empty-cache-button/ [18:15] ty magespawn [18:15] your welcome [18:15] you are [18:16] brian is offline [18:16] who's brian? :p [18:16] s/brian/brain/g [18:17] see what i mean [18:17] yeah [18:18] had to read that more than once [18:18] lol [18:18] lol [18:20] warm enough here tonight to want the fans on [18:21] cold coming tomorrow or friday [18:21] I don't want summer :( [18:22] hey magespawn to host a bot you need to have ubuntu installed there as well? [18:22] Got a pentium4 :( [18:22] http://www.lolzhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/eQRZ24M.jpg [18:22] *coff* [18:22] Kilos, which kind of bot? [18:22] there is only one kind [18:22] ibid [18:22] Can probably run on other *nix or windows [18:23] yeah but the host i mean [18:23] lotsa space needed [18:23] Really? Would think only a few MB [18:23] and gotta be online 24/7 [18:24] yeah but dont you need the OS there as well? [18:24] yeah [18:24] For $11/year I can get a host [18:24] so its like a buntu install then the bot in there [18:24] Yep [18:24] no man must be free [18:25] ok. You can get hosting for a week at a time then [18:25] search trial VPS [18:25] didital ocean has, rsaweb had [18:25] eish [18:25] digital ocean* [18:26] $11/year isn't much though [18:26] One of the cheapest [18:27] every cent here goes to data and saving for a quadcore pc [18:27] ah ok [18:28] haha and meds [18:28] kk [18:29] would be nice if it was just the bot [18:29] thats a coupla megs [18:30] yeah. [18:31] Kilos, http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CE4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.python.org%2Fmoin%2FFreeHosts&ei=40EeUpbwOcu0hAeTzoDAAQ&usg=AFQjCNEFbR4lZqMGGJyuUVqkUQr9LarkXg&sig2=w__2MLLl9I6mhYQYLbtbtg&bvm=bv.51156542,d.ZG4 [18:31] oops http://wiki.python.org/moin/FreeHosts [18:33] I think [18:34] I will sneak in xyzzy into my linux [18:34] Trixar_za, xyzzy? [18:34] I think I have heard that before, but what is it [18:34] ah colossal cave adventure [18:35] Yeah [18:35] They also name the IF awards after it [18:35] It will just be an alias for echo "Nothing Happens" [18:36] kk [18:36] eish that wiki has been attacked [18:36] yeah [18:37] and 250 meg is too small [18:37] ubuntu needs at least 4g [18:38] never mind to have to install from here to there will eat a years data [18:38] and take 6 months at our upload speeds [18:39] kk [18:39] ill keep her running here and use in the class when im online [18:40] kk [18:40] not here on my channel [18:40] i wonder if one cant host just the bot somewhere on irc? [18:41] tumbleweed, any ideas where and how to host just an ibid? [18:43] inetpro, waar is die ai! [18:43] whee! recompiling alpine [18:43] for gmail password support [18:46] ack [18:46] :/ [18:46] eina [18:46] hmmm... [18:46] nuvolari, FIN [18:46] naand boet [18:46] Kilos: go to http://instantserver.io/ [18:46] inetpro, only 30 min [18:47] ok ty [18:47] Just get an amazon micro. [18:47] theblazehen: true, but he will be able to test and see [18:47] Yep [18:47] Will need a vpn though [18:47] Kilos: install your bot in there for a quick test [18:48] instant server [18:48] that takes a week to open [18:48] ai! [18:48] lol [18:48] Lol you should have been there on first day [18:48] took over 2 hours [18:50] does it actually work?? [18:50] must i use the fox? [18:51] stcks on elements 6/7 [18:51] sticks [18:52] with a bot there if you order coffee now youll get it christmas [18:53] Meteor [18:53] This site is down. Try again later. [18:54] inetpro, maak reg man [18:55] shame looks like mage is asleep [18:55] no still here but racing pixel cars [18:55] lol [18:56] i was hoping starting up the classes again would attract some peeps from the list [18:56] spend all day driving then come home and race to relax [18:56] hehe [18:56] we will message them and the lugs [18:57] eish! [18:57] * inetpro just ran OOB [18:57] ive given up asking for list peeps to join use [18:57] now on a slow Vodacom [18:57] 10GB gone for the month [18:57] wow [18:58] we're turning into bandwidth-zombies [18:58] moar! we want moar! [18:58] haha [18:58] 10GB is way too little [18:59] Did you see the report? Top users are in the Tb range [18:59] I thought 8ta's 60gb would at least last 6 months. How wrong could I be? [18:59] per month? [18:59] yup [18:59] Kilos: yes, I could do with 10GB a day [19:00] internet tv is on the way [19:00] i thought i was bad. ive near finished a 2+1 this month [19:00] so prices need to drop quick! [19:00] cant afford tv on mobile broadband [19:01] hah! I remember back in high school we talked about fast when we could download an mp3 in 20 minutes [19:01] that will cripple anyone not on uncapped [19:01]