[00:25] <Oins> After installing a fresh server 12.04 x64, my truecrypt partitions are only mounted read only. What could be the problem ?
[00:26] <msq> #ubuntu
[00:30] <msq> Hello
[00:31] <SilverSlimer> hey
[00:31] <Oins> found it. ntfs-3g was missing.
[00:32] <msq> u
[00:39] <SuperGauntlet> so any ideas why my l2tp vpn isn't working when pptpd is working?
[00:45] <ZzziP> hi
[00:47] <kabamaro> how do i install cgi?
[01:00] <alexw> I created new user with useradd
[01:01] <alexw> but I don't get the same $ cursor and input as root
[01:01] <jrib> alexw: delete the user and create again with adduser
[01:01] <alexw> plus ctrl+c has ^C
[01:01] <SchrodingersScat> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:02] <alexw> jrib: cheers
[01:02] <rahim123> hi there,anyone know how to get a unity indicator that shows my current Empathy status?
[01:05] <g_byers> macwolf74
[01:08] <alexw> how do I set permissions to inherit for new files
[01:08] <alexw> i.e. chown -R myuser:www-data www/
[01:08] <alexw> but new files come up as myuser:myuser
[01:11] <jrib> alexw: with regular permissions, you can't.
[01:11] <alexw> found it
[01:11] <alexw> chmod g+s
[01:11] <alexw> :D
[01:11] <jrib> alexw: no, that won't do it recursively.  Nor will it actually affect permissions.  It only affects group ownership
[01:11] <kabamaro> im trying to install iris irc client
[01:11] <kabamaro> python
[01:11] <alexw> chmod -R g+s
[01:12] <kabamaro>  http://paste.pound-python.org/show/QB9cvg1EBnOcn1u44wOe/
[01:12] <kabamaro> any help?
[01:12] <jrib> alexw: that still won't have an effect on new directories.  If that's ok with you, then you probably also want to change  your users' umasks.  Alternatively, use ACLs where you can set default permisssions
[01:13] <thurstylark> Does anyone know how how to get a ubuntu (12.04+) to bind to an Open Directory hosted by a Mountian Lion server? Is it possible>
[01:14] <vanishing> is saucy discussion allowed?
[01:14] <jrib> !saucy | vanishing
[01:14] <SilverSlimer> define saucy
[01:15] <SilverSlimer> oh, the next ubuntu release
[01:15] <raj> how can I get more info about my partitions than fdisk -l gives?
[01:15] <vanishing> welp
[01:15] <SilverSlimer> i thought you were referring to pr0n
[01:15] <daftykins> SilverSlimer: XD
[01:15] <vanishing> lol
[01:15] <jrib> raj: like what?
[01:15] <raj> it doesn't say which one is Home, which is Tmp, etc
[01:15] <jrib> raj: « mount »
[01:16] <raj> jrib, can I cut that down?
[01:16] <jrib> raj: I don't know what you mean by that.
[01:16] <vanishing> time to reimage the partition now...
[01:16] <vanishing> my install is (kinda) totally ef'd
[01:16] <raj> jrib, lots of extra stuff on there from cgroup
[01:16] <jrib> raj: I don't know what you want.
[01:17] <raj> I wanna just say the basic partitions like / home tmp
[01:17] <jrib> raj: why?
[01:18] <raj> I wanna know if I can extend / into tmp
[01:18] <raj> i basically wanna get rid of tmp as a separate partition
[01:18] <raj> it's causing too many issues
[01:18] <kabamaro> how do i open a port on ubuntu
[01:18] <daftykins> !ufw | kabamaro
[01:19] <jrib> raj: just look in /etc/fstab then, or grep the output of mount, or use df /tmp
[01:21] <michaelrose> hey does anyone know how to kill X from an alternate tty?
[01:21] <jrib> michaelrose: why?
[01:21] <michaelrose> to manually install nvidia drivers
[01:21] <Orxata_> lightdm stop
[01:21] <jrib> michaelrose: why not use the nvidia drivers from the repositories?
[01:21] <Sillvester> pkill Xorg
[01:21] <jrib> !nvidia | michaelrose
[01:21] <michaelrose> basically after an update I can no longer set the fan speed manually
[01:21] <thurstylark> Does anyone know how how to get a ubuntu (12.04+) to bind to an Open Directory hosted by a Mountian Lion server? Is it possible>
[01:22] <michaelrose> the nvidia binary driver runs full out no matter what you are doing in multi monitor mode
[01:22] <SilverSlimer> i can't believe i'm saying this but i like unity a lot
[01:22] <michaelrose> it FAILS to cool itself properly
[01:22] <SilverSlimer> more than gnome 3, more than kde, more than xfce
[01:22] <SilverSlimer> what the heck were people complaining about for so long exactly?
[01:22] <raj> jrib, cool, df was what I was looking for I think
[01:22] <michaelrose> so I need to set the fan speed higher
[01:22] <Orxata_> Because it's slow
[01:22] <raj> jrib, how can I get rid of this /tmp partition?
[01:22] <Johnny_Linux> michaelrose,  is it missing coolbits ?
[01:23] <michaelrose> its in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:23] <greenlife> I have an issue with 13.04 disconnecting me from a newly established SSH connection.  It happens everytime, almost on the dot of 10 seconds.  I have increased timeouts, etc, but it still kicks me off.  I disabled apparmor thinking that might be the issue, but still no luck
[01:23] <Johnny_Linux> unless your in alaska and outside, i wouldnt slow it down
[01:24] <Orxata_> my heies
[01:28] <neogto> im trying to get dot net framework updated
[01:28] <neogto> how do i
[01:28] <neogto> i have 4.0 and i need to update it
[01:28] <neogto> so i can run a game
[01:29] <neogto> how do i update dotnet
[01:31] <neogto> #linux
[01:33] <neogto> i need a little help
[01:34] <neogto> help lol '
[01:34] <neogto> please
[01:34] <neogto> this is dumb
[01:36] <vbooh> Hello, everybody. Question about Ubuntu One: anybody experiences issues with publishing of files? I can not publish any file via Nautilus, nor via u1sdtool, nor via web interface.
[01:37] <kabamaro> i sent about 41,000 emails
[01:37] <kabamaro> i have 40,070 in mailq
[01:37] <kabamaro> since 3 hours
[01:37] <kabamaro> that means its not sending right?
[01:37] <kabamaro> cuz the number is the same for 3 hours
[01:37] <kabamaro> in mailq
[01:37] <FloodBot1> kabamaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <vbooh> kabamaro: No, It does not mean. Take a look at /var/log/mail.log , for example 'tail -f /var/log/mail.log'. Or you can find info about some mail message 'grep -F $ID /var/log/mail.log'.
[01:40] <kabamaro> Aug 27 20:20:52 MyVps postfix/postdrop[8638]: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory
[01:40] <kabamaro> Aug 27 21:26:17 MyVps postfix/postqueue[12417]: warning: Mail system is down -- accessing queue directly
[01:40] <kabamaro> Aug 27 21:35:53 MyVps postfix/postqueue[12468]: warning: Mail system is down -- accessing queue directly
[01:40] <kabamaro> whats that
[01:41] <vbooh> Your 'Postfix' is not running, something is broken. Try to start it: 'service postfix start'.
[01:41] <semitones_tea> When SSH says to check that the RSA key of the machine matches, how do you do that?
[01:42] <thurstylark> semitones_tea: It's basically asking if your fingerprint matches.
[01:42] <semitones_tea> so I need to lookup the fingerprint on the remote machine beforehand, right?
[01:43] <vbooh> kabamaro: If 'Postfix' do not want to run, you can follow the simpliest way: just reinstall package 'postfix'.
[01:43] <thurstylark> semitones_tea: I'm not sure how to get it from your server, but the fingerprint is just a subset of the full key.
[01:43] <kabamaro> root@MyVps:~# service postfix start
[01:43] <kabamaro>  * Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent postfix                                       [ OK ]
[01:44] <kabamaro> do i have to resend all the emails again?????
[01:44] <vbooh> kabamaro: No, they are in queue.
[01:45] <semitones_tea> thurstylark, that's confused me before. I've found where keys are stored by ssh, but since it was just a subset, it didn't match
[01:45] <semitones_tea> I don't know what to do with the keys to make them match -- which subset do I look at, etc.
[01:48] <kabamaro> is this because i had sendmail running?
[01:48] <kabamaro> or i can run both at the same time
[01:48] <mustmodify> I need to create a file based on "[" + a file + "]"
[01:49] <jrib> mustmodify: so do it?
[01:49] <mustmodify> so I was thinking echo "[" + cat file.txt + echo "]"
[01:49] <mustmodify> but that didn't seem to work
[01:49] <mustmodify> in bash
[01:49] <jrib> mustmodify: if you just need to create one file, why don't you just do it?
[01:49] <mustmodify> I need to create a script to do it.
[01:49] <michaelrose> STILL can't seem to kill X
[01:49] <L3top> no... mustmodify it would not.
[01:49] <michaelrose> nvidia programmers suck at life
[01:49] <jrib> michaelrose: are you trying to add brackets to the filename or the contents of the file?
[01:50] <mustmodify> So my question is what's the syntax for saying "put this character, then this file, then this character into a file"
[01:50] <michaelrose> I'm trying to kill X in order to manually install a different version of the binary nvidia driver
[01:50] <jrib> !nvidia | michaelrose
[01:51] <L3top> mustmodify: can you start over and tell me specifically what you are trying to do/
[01:51] <mustmodify> L3top: Ah ha. echo "fu" `cat filename.txt` "bar" > newfile.txt
[01:52] <L3top> michaelrose: pose your frustration in the form of a question
[01:52] <L3top> that is not going to flow
[01:52] <L3top> mustmodify: that is not correct
[01:53] <vbooh> kabamaro: You should have only one MTA installed at the same time: 'Sendmail' or 'Postfix'. I recommend you 'Postfix'.
[01:53] <kabamaro> yes i killed sendmail
[01:53] <kabamaro> started postfix
[01:54] <kabamaro> it started sending
[01:54] <L3top> FNtxt=$(cat filename.txt); echo "fu $FNtxt bar" > newfile.txt
[01:54] <L3top> mustmodify: ^
[01:54] <vbooh> I found 'Ubuntu One' bug about files publishing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/1193274 . It is not solved for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[01:55] <mustmodify> L3top: ok thanks.
[01:55] <L3top> but... that will put fu on the same line as the first line of filename.txt mustmodify
[01:55] <L3top> mustmodify: it would help more if you told me what you actually wanted to do, rather than how to do whatever you think is the way to do it
[01:56] <mustmodify> L3top: you're right. I'm in the middle of a big mess and I have just enough to move on so I must do so. :P
[01:57]  * jrib imagines he'll return with a bigger mess
[01:58] <kabamaro> (delivery temporarily suspended: host extmail.bigpond.com[61.9.189.122] refused to talk to me: 554 nschwcmgw02p BigPond Inbound Connection refused. IB112)
[01:58] <kabamaro> it will retry
[01:58] <kabamaro> or not?
[01:58] <Coburn> kabamaro: the answer is in the 'temporilary"
[01:59] <Coburn> hey peeps, could someone fetch me their Xorg version?
[01:59] <Coburn> I'm comparing *buntu's Xorg package version to Debians
[01:59] <Coburn> to see if *buntu is older or newer in Xorg
[02:00] <semitones_tea> how do you check?
[02:00] <jrib> Coburn: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <Coburn> I did, but it says xorg (1:7.7+1ubuntu4)
[02:00] <Coburn> I want to know the installed version number
[02:00] <Coburn> semitones_tea: pop open terminal and do X --version
[02:01] <Coburn> it should say Xorg Version <blah>
[02:02] <semitones_tea> unrecognized option
[02:03] <Coburn> semitones_tea: X -version
[02:03] <Coburn> sorry, one to many hypens
[02:05] <neogto> can i get some help with dotnet
[02:06] <semitones_tea> X.Org X Server 1.13.3 Release Date: 2013-03-07
[02:07] <neogto> so i take it that no one knows how to work dotnet framework
[02:09] <L3top> neogto: how to work it? This is the question/
[02:10] <Coburn> neogto: install mono
[02:10] <Coburn> semitones_tea: thank you. that's the version I'm looking for.
[02:11] <semitones_tea> Coburn, no problem mon :) have a nice day
[02:12] <neogto> hi
[02:12] <neogto> why is the node so quiet
[02:14] <Coburn> Is it possible to get a stock GNOME 3 Desktop WITHOUT Unity?
[02:14] <Coburn> I'm wanting to try GNOME 3 but without the Unity hooks
[02:20] <lysk9884> hello
[02:20] <lysk9884> i have just installed guildwars 2 through playonlinux
[02:21] <lysk9884> but when i open it up
[02:21] <lysk9884> it freezes whole system
[02:21] <SuperGauntlet> what drivers are you using
[02:21] <lysk9884> coz i ever tried on gnome before
[02:21] <lysk9884> ATI ?
[02:22] <lysk9884> it works well on gnome
[02:24] <lysk9884> so i suspect it's unity 3d problem...
[02:25] <SuperGauntlet> lysk9884: are you using the open source or proprietary drivers?
[02:25] <lysk9884> proprietary drivers
[02:26] <SuperGauntlet> Since it works in gnome then I can't say I really know
[02:26] <lysk9884> i gotta try with unity 2d instead
[02:26] <lysk9884> i suspect its gotta do with 3d accelaration
[02:27] <SuperGauntlet> possible
[02:27] <setuid> Can someone tell me why most of the output of 'mount' shows 'none', as here? https://paste8.com/b7AFfwNB
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> Coburn, There is a release of that
[02:27] <setuid> The system boots, just doesn't seem to know what filesystems are on /dev/, /sys/ and /var/
[02:28] <ARW0> Zzz
[02:28] <immesys> I just installed ubuntu on a macbook 13" retina. The screen DPI is 227x227 but ubuntu seems designed for 96 dpi, is there any way to get things to be normal?
[02:29] <immesys> scaling the fonts to 2x really doesn't make things look pretty
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> Coburn, Up to 12.10 though I believe ubuntu gnome remix. http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/download/
[02:29] <immesys> I've done all the DPI setup so now xdpyinfo reports the correct DPI and dmesg seems like things are being initialised with the correct dpi, but everything is still minute...
[02:36] <MKCoin> Strangifier oh lawd
[02:36] <MKCoin> ...wrong channel.
[02:52] <aPJ> hello. i am running a bash script from supervisord and it only works when i remove CURR_DIR=`pwd -P` from the script. is there a way to get supervisord to run my script so i can execute the `pwd -P` command in the script?
[02:53] <awc737> hey
[02:53] <awc737> how do I always use /bin/bash?
[02:53] <awc737> all my commands don't work, i have to manually do /bin/bash --login every time
[02:54] <aPJ> awc737: type 'chsh' and it will prompt you
[02:54] <awc737> yeah i did this once
[02:54] <awc737> it went away on restart
[02:55] <missvaleska> Hiya all!
[02:56] <cfhowlett> missvaleska, greetingws
[02:57] <missvaleska> I need a bit of help, I mine litecoins with my GPU using CGminer. However, After a night of this, This results in some minor lag after I close cgminer, And videos skip. So I always restart afterwards. However, Is there someway to just restart the display driver so I can avoid restarting? Restarting is obviously stopping or clearing some process which fixes the problem, I'd prefer to do that manually. Especially becau
[02:57] <missvaleska> se I am running UBuntu from an externel hard drive, Booting does take a while.
[02:58] <DWSR> Is there a way to schedule a task in cron to take place after ecryptfs mount's a user's home directory?
[03:00] <missvaleska> Do you mean a start up process? Or something more specific?
[03:00] <SuperGauntlet> okay so an ipsec/l2tp vpn doesn't work, but a pptp vpn does
[03:00] <SuperGauntlet> What might be the issue?
[03:00] <DWSR> missvaleska: I want to run a specific command at startup, but I need a private keyfile that is located in my home directory.
[03:00] <missvaleska> Oh god, I'm sorry, I don't know enough to reply to that network issue.
[03:00] <missvaleska> Okay, I can help you with that! ^-^
[03:01] <missvaleska> Search for start up applications, And open that please
[03:01] <SuperGauntlet> Nobody seems to know, pity
[03:01] <missvaleska> In there, You can make a new start up program
[03:01] <missvaleska> And it will ask you for the command
[03:01] <DWSR> missvaleska: No X.
[03:01] <katkisson> I downloaded Lubuntu 13.04 a few days ago and just now went to Hulu online to watch a movie. They say I need the newest version of Flashplayer. What should I do? I thought the Lubuntu download had it.
[03:02] <missvaleska> Now, I don't run commands on start up, So I just type in the name of the program I want to run. However, You can type in a more complicated command, And it will run that on start up too.
[03:02] <SuperGauntlet> katkisson: nope, not that I know of
[03:02] <cfhowlett> katkisson, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:02] <SuperGauntlet> you'll need to do what cfhowlett said
[03:02] <missvaleska> A bit easier, You could make a script, And tell that to run on start up.
[03:02] <DWSR> missvaleska: I need to run it at a specific point in startup. I can't just create an upstart job.
[03:03] <Guest59512> i am using a laptop , after the installation of ubuntu  the battery is running out faster and i cant dim the screen to save power pls help me on this . thanks in advance
[03:03] <missvaleska> hmmm
[03:03] <missvaleska> Okay
[03:03] <missvaleska> I have an idea!!!!
[03:03] <missvaleska> Put the script in the home folder!
[03:03] <missvaleska> That way, It's not possible for it to run until the home folder is mounted!
[03:03] <SuperGauntlet> Guest59512: what version
[03:03] <katkisson> o.k.  so I write into terminal,  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:03] <Guest59512> ubuntu 12.04
[03:03] <cfhowlett> katkisson, yes
[03:04] <katkisson> k  I'll try it  thanks
[03:04] <SuperGauntlet> Guest59512: what specific flavor, server/k/x/etc?
[03:04] <Guest59512> ubuntu 12.4 lts
[03:04] <SuperGauntlet> that doesn't help
[03:05] <SuperGauntlet> what DE, is it minimal, is it the server variant, etc
[03:05] <Guest59512> i downloaded it from ubuntu bebsite
[03:05] <Guest59512> 12.04
[03:05] <Guest59512> ltd
[03:05] <Guest59512> lts
[03:05] <FloodBot1> Guest59512: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <katkisson> It said it was unable to find restricted extras.
[03:06] <SuperGauntlet> Guest59512: probably unity then? It should work OOB then
[03:06] <SuperGauntlet> Search your laptop model and look for some drivers for the dimmer/brightening switches
[03:07] <cfhowlett> katkisson, you'll need to enable the multiverse repositories
[03:07] <Guest59512> i have downloaded and installed the 12.04 lts from ubuntu official website , anyhting that will help me
[03:07] <cfhowlett> !patience|Guest59512,
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> katkisson, Have you run a update?
[03:08] <Guest59512> my laptop is acer emachine
[03:08] <Guest59512> e730
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> katkisson, check gksudo leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list that the partners repos is unticked
[03:10] <katkisson> Uhhh I'm on Lubuntu channel too now.  They told me to go to a certain site.
[03:10] <cfhowlett> katkisson, ?? what site?
[03:11] <cfhowlett> katkisson, nevermind.  wilee-nilee gave you the solution.  did you even try it?
[03:19] <Anonynimity> how do I reconfigure the following to install and use it?
[03:19] <Anonynimity> http://pastebin.com/gtuk4pes
[03:20] <Anonynimity> Anyone?
[03:21] <linu> is there a version of ubuntu with all the bundled spyware and malware uncompiled?
[03:22] <fade_> Hey everyone I am having trouble enabling updates in the software sources. every time i try and enable them it unchecks itself, any idea on how to fix this
[03:22] <cfhowlett> !mini|linu,
[03:22] <linu> thanks ubottu
[03:22] <cfhowlett> fade_, run your updates from terminal and get the error messages: sudo apt-get update
[03:23] <linu> i want to not have the amazon etc stuff and the geoip stuff ever installed
[03:23] <Anonynimity> cfhowlett, any ideas on how to redo a dist-upgrade?
[03:23] <fade_> i ran that i get no error when i do it
[03:23] <cfhowlett> linu, logout.  choose a non-unity desktop environment.  login.  done
[03:23] <cfhowlett> Anonynimity, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:24] <linu> cfhowlett: neat
[03:24] <Anonynimity> (re-do)
[03:24] <Anonynimity> it's already running
[03:24] <linu> hopefully that will stop the geoip software too
[03:24] <Anonynimity> but I messed up on a couple things such as : http://pastebin.com/gtuk4pes
[03:24] <cfhowlett> fade_, then do sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:24] <Anonynimity> that
[03:26] <fade_> ok, I ran that command
[03:28] <fade_> could it be something is wrong with my source.list
[03:29] <holstein> fade_: look and see..
[03:29] <holstein> fade_: i would close all package managers, open a terminal. run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and report errors
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> fade_, Did you hit the pre-released updates when this started?
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> When I was on earlier with you I did that and it greyed everything and wiped my sources.list.
[03:31] <fade_> i don't think so, did you get yours working again
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> fade_, Oh yeah in the etc/apt/ is a backup
[03:32] <katkisson> I found Flash Player Plug in in Lubuntu Software and downloaded it. I can watch Hulu movies now. Just so you know wilee-nilee.  Thanks
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> katkisson, Did you go to the sources.list and find the partner repo?
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> fade_, Anything you do not understand speak up it is alright. ;)
[03:33] <katkisson> no   sorry   I didn't know how much of what you said to type in terminal.  sorry
[03:34] <katkisson> so exactly what do you type in terminal?  not too smart here
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> katkisson, in the terminal run   gksudo leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list   and in the text that opens look for thre partner repos and remove the # save it and run a update and try the install again.
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> the*
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> katkisson, your looking for   http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu   to have a # in front of it.
[03:37] <katkisson> hummm I'll give it a try
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> katkisson, I believe the restricted extras are in that repo.
[03:41] <katkisson> Got Lubuntu here. Don't see anything quite like that. I should be fine. Flash is working and I'm watching a movie on Hulu.
[03:44] <nfd> Hey, where can I look to find the keyboard language settings (to set via setxkbmap)? I want to know the full arg to pass to setxkbmap to set my layout to Japanese kana.
[03:44] <nfd> because typing "eigoga wakarimasuka" just isn't satisfying
[03:45] <penguinRaider> I am trying to tunnel from behind a proxy server via ssh through socks proxy.I then added the socks proxy to system settings .Also I removed the proxy variables from the /etc/environment file .But still when I open the terminal and do env | grep proxy I can the proxy getting set.Is there some other files from where the terminal is picking up the proxy?
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> fade_, If you are still having a problem run this command and pastebin all the text. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[03:47] <fade_> i checked my source.list and it seems fine
[03:48] <holstein> fade_: in a terminal.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and report errors in a pastebin
[03:48] <fade_> ran that with no errors
[03:49] <nfd> in other words, I want to switch keyboard layouts via the terminal, wat do. (I use awesomewm, and I'm gonna script it into my rc.lua)
[03:49] <holstein> fade_: then, you are up to date
[03:49] <fade_> http://imgur.com/maT05B8
[03:49] <fade_> thats a screenshot of the options im trying to enable
[03:49] <fade_> everytime i click on a box to enable the update it unchecks itself
[03:50] <holstein> fade_: why? you are up to date.. close that window, and enjoy your updated system.. save that terminal command and run it when you want to update
[03:50] <cfhowlett> fade_, sounds like a permission issue
[03:50] <fade_> yea no updates are found
[03:50] <fade_> it ask for root permission as soon as i try to enable it
[03:51] <fade_> holstien that sounds like a plan
[03:52] <cfhowlett> fade_, you need root permission to change the repo settings.  No permission, no change.
[03:54] <fade_> thanks for the help, if I can manually check for updates using that command im good
[03:54] <brennan> hey yall can ya help me out really quick?
[03:55] <Guest10003> ????
[03:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Are old themes from previous releases saved in the package libraries?
[03:55] <CountryfiedLinux> I want the themes from jaunty
[03:55] <CountryfiedLinux> 4 years ago stuff haha
[03:56] <holstein> !ask Guest10003
[03:56] <holstein> !ask | Guest10003
[03:57] <Guest10003> i cant find my usb drive on ubuntu 13.04 can anyone help me?
[03:58] <Guest10003> i dont know why i'm guest either
[03:58] <holstein> !register > Guest10003
[03:59] <holstein> Guest10003: open a filemanager and see if you see the usb stick.. if not, unplug the stick and plug it back in, and report
[03:59] <uronu> Hello guys, I want to add a netbeans6.9.1 package repository repository. But how? I want client use apt-get to install netbeans6.9.1 instead of netbeans 7.1. How can we done this?
[03:59] <holstein> !ppa | nfd
[04:00] <Renari> Where the metalinks moved or something? Wubi is erroring because it can't find the metalinks for example this one: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.2/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.metalink
[04:00] <holstein> nfd: sorry uronu ^^
[04:00] <nfd> hah, 'sok.
[04:00] <holstein> uronu: you can see how to add the ppa on the page.. ppa's are not officially supported
[04:00] <penguinRaider> !patience
[04:03] <Guest10003> holstein i opened archive manager didn't find it and unpulged it and pluged it back in and still didn't find it
[04:03] <holstein> !mount | Guest10003
[04:04] <holstein> try manually mounting via the terminal and share errors
[04:04] <holstein> Guest10003: at some point, you should try the stick at another machine, since they do go bad
[04:06] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I upload a folder to UbuntuOne?
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, That jaunty you wanted earlier may be gtk2 it is now 3
[04:08] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, I'm using Mate
[04:08] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, Gtk2 is what I want
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, what does uname -a say
[04:09] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, 3.8 64 bit generic
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, The whole thing
[04:10] <malkauns> in 13.04 how do u disable the global search in nautilus?
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, You running mint or ubuntu
[04:10] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, uname -a
[04:10] <CountryfiedLinux> Linux robert-NE56R 3.8.0-29-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 19:40:39 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:11] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, Matebuntu :)
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, Not supported here technically.
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> 13.04 has cinnamon you might consider installing ubuntu for the support
[04:14] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, The DE is the only difference. My question is not DE related. I just wanna know if I can upload folders to UbuntuOne
[04:14] <misingnoglic> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my netbook via USB, but during the install there are a bunch of gray bars taking up like half the screen, how can I fix this?
[04:14] <misingnoglic> I can take pics if needed
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, I understand, however this ia an enforced channel policy for good reasons
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | misingnoglic
[04:16] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, Ok I get it. I'm running Ubuntu with Xfce then.
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> I'm on mars, please
[04:17] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, How would I upload entire folders ti UbuntuOne from the browser instead of the desktop app?
[04:18] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, Do you know if there's a way to upload entire folders to UbuntuOne?
[04:21] <hugo> hi
[04:22] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, you really gonna be like that bro?
[04:22] <CountryfiedLinux> Does anyone know how to upload entire folders to UbuntuOne?
[04:22] <testing_> hello there I want to get only the signal level and essid value when issuing iwlist command .
[04:24] <testing_> Does anyone here know how to get only the signal level and ESSID value when issuing the iwlist command ? I mean like using grep but only the value will be get ?
[04:29] <somsip> testing_: the solution is likely to be a combination of grep and awk, eg: iwlist | grep ESSID | awk '{print $2}' (if the ESSID is in column 2)
[04:32] <testing_> somsip: yeah and one of my problem is how to combine the two expression , I  mean the signal level and the ESSID
[04:34] <testing_> somsip: I already achieved getting only one like essid or the signal level but combining the two makes it complicated for me
[04:34] <somsip> testing_: what should 'combining' look like?
[04:35] <testing_> somsip: I mean getting the signal level and ESSID at the same time. using only one command
[04:36] <somsip> testing_: then you may be approaching a level of awkness way beyond anything I want to do: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11873722/how-to-extract-multiple-patterns-from-a-line-with-grep-sed-awk-and-merge-them-in?rq=1
[04:37] <Pinkamena_D> What would be a good calander type of app like google calander for ubuntu. Google is missing some really dumb things from theirs like that it can not print the start and end times on the calander.
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> Pinkamena_D, Some info, http://lifehacker.com/5882005/the-best-calendar-app-for-linux
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> more http://www.zimbra.com/products/calendar-collaboration.html  http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/6214-mozilla-calendar-for-linux   http://linuxappfinder.com/office/calendars
[04:53] <vine> hi
[04:58] <legend321> Hi there. I used pppoeconf utility to connect to my broadband dialup connection everytime, but at the time of setup i said "No" to use DNS servers provided by my ISP because they are flaky. I manually edited /etc/resolv.conf file to add google dns servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. After that internet works fine.
[04:59] <legend321> But whenever i reboot, the file /etc/resolv.conf gets changed automatically and the nameservers provided by me are deleted. I have to manually add these nameservers everytime to get internet working.
[05:00] <somsip> legend321: does your /etc/resolv.conf have a line at the top that says ' DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN'?
[05:00] <legend321> What should i do, so that the changes made in /etc/resolv.conf file made are persistant?
[05:00] <legend321> somsip: Yes
[05:01] <legend321> I upgraded to 12.04.3 LTS and i see this line.
[05:02] <Senjai> somsip: you just made my night
[05:02] <somsip>  legend321: it's there for a reason. What is the content in your  /etc/network/interfaces file? Use !paste
[05:03] <legend321> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6035400/
[05:05] <somsip> legend321: I use a static IP, but you'll see the line 'dns-nameservers' at the bottom. Might be worth trying that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6035404/
[05:05] <somsip> legend321: IIRC you can have one per line, or separate with whitespace. Not too sure though
[05:11] <Renari> Can you mount the flash drive you are booting to from a live cd?
[05:12] <somsip> Renari: sure
[05:21] <bizmoski> exit
[05:22] <Renari> somsip, every time I've tried it tells me <insert directory> is busy and doesn't mount
[05:22] <somsip> Renari: post the command you are using to mount it
[05:23] <Renari> sudo mount /dev/sdb /drive
[05:24] <somsip> Renari: does sdb have partitions on it? I'd expect to see something like 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mountpoint'
[05:24] <Renari> outputs "mount: /dev/sdb already mounted or /drive busy"
[05:24] <Renari> it has a single partition
[05:24] <somsip> Renari: what does 'mount' tell you about existing mounts?
[05:25] <Renari>  /dev/sdb isn't listed on any of the existing mounts
[05:25] <Renari>  /dev/sdb1 is mounted to /cdrom
[05:26] <somsip> Renari: And is /drive listed as a mount poin that is in use? Maybe useful to !paste some output
[05:26] <Renari> I assume this may be it and 1 is referring to the partition number
[05:26] <Renari> Drive was a directory I made about 3 seconds ago so nothing is mounted there.
[05:27] <somsip> Renari: so have you got your drives wrong? Seems like /dev/sdb is the CD/DVD...
[05:27] <Renari> yeah I just checked the live cd mounted it by default to /cdrom
[05:27] <Renari> there is no cd in the computer
[05:27] <Renari> there's a drive
[05:27] <Renari> but nothing in it
[05:28] <Renari> but it doesn't matter the flash drive is indeed mounted
[05:28] <Renari> so that's what I needed
[05:28] <somsip> Renari: k
[05:29] <Renari> nevermind I need to unmount it, it's mounted as read only
[05:30] <yaakov|eos> Pretend I can use my headset for everything, but for some reason it doesn't play through the DE.
[05:30] <yaakov|eos> What should I do?
[05:30] <mmidgett> Can anyone help me test a mumble server?
[05:36] <Renari> Doesn't look like it will let me write to the flash drive while I'm currently booting to it, by default the flash drive is mounted to /cdrom with read-only access and I don't seem to be able to unmount it or change the permissions.
[05:46] <WitheredPyre> Does anyone have a recommended screen recorder, that can record both video (obviously) and audio? It'd be grand if it could also record a specific window instead of the whole screen.
[05:46] <somsip> WitheredPyre: IIRC gtk-recordmydesktop does that
[05:47] <WitheredPyre> I'll give it a look.
[05:52] <sahil_> is THIS device supported in ubuntu  http://m.flipkart.com/m/huawei-e3121-3g-data-card/p/itmdknnxdx9jqyzn?pid=DATDKNNXS5AREXJX&fromSearch=true&otracker=search&pageNum=1
[05:52] <sahil_> i am planning to buy it but unsure if it works or not
[05:52] <WitheredPyre> somsip: Viewing the output right now to check how it is, but is there a keyboard shortcut or something to stop the recording?
[05:53] <sahil_> the website says its based on balong chipset
[05:54] <somsip> WitheredPyre: I don't recall. I haven't used it for some time
[05:55] <WitheredPyre> Fair enough. Is the format it uses possible to upload to Youtube that way?
[05:55] <WitheredPyre> Or do I need to convert it?
[05:55] <somsip> WitheredPyre: I did upload mine... I don't think I converted first. Do a test?
[05:56] <apb1963> Hello all.  I want to run ssh on a different port.  I changed it in the config file and did a service ssh restart...  doesn't seem to work.  What am I missing?
[05:56] <WitheredPyre> Maybe later. Right now I'm trying to get it to record sound.
[05:57] <WitheredPyre> It says DEFAULT in the sound section. Obviously, that doesn't work?
[05:57] <somsip> WitheredPyre: ah - I do remember having to fiddle with the sound a lot. ISTR I copied the settings from whatever showed in Skype
[05:57] <FleaFlicker> anyone familiar with the boot process and how .bash_profile is run on start up?
[05:58] <apb1963> I also forwarded the port in my router, and specified the new port in winscp.  Not connecting
[05:58] <WitheredPyre> I don't have Skype installed, but I'll give that a try.
[05:58] <somsip> WitheredPyre: Under Sound Devices, mine is 'USB Device 0x46d;0x804' so that was the one I used in RecordMyDesktop. In retrospect it was fiddly to get working. Maybe it wasn't such a great recommendation...
[05:59] <WitheredPyre> Heh.
[05:59] <WitheredPyre> Well, I'm trying to get it to record sound that's playing on my computer
[05:59] <WitheredPyre> But yeah, I'll go install Skyep.
[05:59] <WitheredPyre> *Skype
[06:00] <somsip> WitheredPyre: I'm pretty sure I tried alternatives, and didn't find anything free that ws any easier to setup. Maybe 2 years ago though
[06:00] <WitheredPyre> If it can be set up at all, then I'll go for it, so I'm giving this a try.
[06:12] <elpis> hello there . does anyone here know how to use grep to get only the ESSID and signal level value when issuing the iwlist command ?
[06:13] <elpis> I mean something like this "iwlist wlan0 scan | grep -e Signal -e ESSID" but what I want is only to get the ESSID value and Signal level value but not the whole line ?
[06:13] <NickRice> hey, When I try booting into ubuntu on my mac all of a sudden it no longer starts up.  I see ubuntu loading screen for a split second and then it dissapears to a black screen and never loads.  This never happened before, after 3 months of ubuntu installed it's the first time it's happening.  Already tried sudo apt-get update and upgrade to no avail
[06:16] <somsip> elpis: did we do this already when you had the nick 'testing_'?
[06:16] <ArsLap> what? "libcups2-dev : Depends: libcups2 (= 1.6.2-1ubuntu5) but 1.6.2-1ubuntu7 is to be installed"
[06:18] <NickRice> no answers?
[06:20] <Flannel> ArsLap: You shouldn't be running raring-proposed.  -proposed breaks things all the time, because it's not kept internally consistent.
[06:21] <Flannel> ArsLap: Disable -proposed, re-update your sources, and then that error should go away.  Just have to keep your fingers crossed that something else didn't already cause headaches.
[06:22] <ArsLap> Flannel: I'm not. Currently. But now that you mention it, I was two months ago.
[06:22] <MACscr> i cant for the life of me create a bootable usb thumb drive on my mac for installing ubuntu precise. Everytime it says the isolinux.bin file is missing or corrupt
[06:23] <Flannel> ArsLap: So, that's an odd amount of time for that to crop up.  What were you doing when you got that error?
[06:26] <ArsLap> Flannel: I was installing some printer stuff. apt-get -f install gives me "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded." It's been brewing in the background I see.
[06:27] <Flannel> ArsLap: have you updated (apt-get update) recently?
[06:27] <ArsLap> just now
[06:27] <Flannel> ArsLap: and still the issue?
[06:27] <ArsLap> yeah
[06:28] <ArsLap> Flannel: I'm gonna try with these http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[06:28] <Flannel> ArsLap: Can you please pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy libcups2 libcups2-dev`
[06:29] <ArsLap> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/ERJkXXA9
[06:30] <ArsLap> Flannel: I think I see my problem there now...
[06:30] <Flannel> ArsLap: Ah, your problem is that you've already installed the newer version.  Yes.
[06:32] <Flannel> So, two months ago, or whatnot, you upgraded (remember what I said about crossing your fingers that you don't already have headaches?).  So you just need to downgrade that libcups2, and then the -dev will install just fine.
[06:33] <elpis> hello there . does anyone here know how to use grep to get only the ESSID and signal level value when issuing the iwlist command ?
[06:34] <NickRice> sorry I'd like to ask one more time.  Does anyone have any experience with ubuntu not starting up all of a sudden?  After selecting it from the grub it just goes to a black screen.
[06:36] <ArsLap> Flannel: Doing "apt-get install libcups2=1.6.2-1ubuntu5" and crossing fingers
[06:36] <gbushprogs> hello, anyone here with the wiki?
[06:36] <gbushprogs> I wanted to make a comment on a recommended update on the amavisd and Postfix set up page.
[06:36] <ikonia> gbushprogs: wiki on what ?
[06:36] <elpis> hello there . does anyone here know how to use grep to get only the ESSID and signal level value when issuing the iwlist command ?
[06:36] <ikonia> gbushprogs: the wiki is open, create an account and update the pages you feel need an update
[06:37] <gbushprogs> I clicked edit and it said something... just a sec
[06:37] <Anonynimity> I need some help. I broke my desktop gui.
[06:38] <gbushprogs> oh, now it's working
[06:39] <elpis> hello there . does anyone here know how to use grep to get only the ESSID and signal level value when issuing the iwlist command ?
[06:40] <apb1963> elpis: You can't use grep to do it.  Use AWK instead.  Or perl or something.
[06:42] <elpis> apb1963: yeah i've already use awk but the problem I dont know how to issue multiple awk at one time
[06:42] <apb1963> multiple awk?
[06:43] <apb1963> awk processes input lines and matches patterns
[06:43] <apb1963> iwlist gives you a bunch of inputlines
[06:43] <apb1963> so match them, and print what you want to print
[06:43] <elpis> apb1963: yeah i mean get the signal level and ESSID
[06:44] <gbushprogs> On the wiki it says it's an immutable page... I would assume this means I can't edit that page
[06:44] <apb1963> go find a tutorial on awk.  It's the tool you want to use.. unless you're a perl person
[06:44] <ArsLap> Flannel: there is still 1 not upgraded, but otherwise everything seems to be going unhorribly. Thanks!
[06:44] <ikonia> gbushprogs which page are you trying to edit
[06:45] <gbushprogs> PostfixAmavisNew
[06:45] <ikonia> gbushprogs: please provide a link to the page
[06:45] <elpis> apb1963: actually I know to do it when I only want to get 1 either the signal or the essid but when i try to get the two i cant do it anymore
[06:45] <gbushprogs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixAmavisNew?action=login&login=1
[06:45] <elpis> apb1963: can you give me  a sample ?
[06:46] <gbushprogs> maybe I can give you the edit and you can get it done
[06:47] <ikonia> gbushprogs: no, I'm just logging in to check it, however login.ubuntu.com is responding VERY slow
[06:47] <Anonynimity> please help me
[06:47] <wachpwnski-mobi> how can I move files with comand line and get progress? Do I need to use something like rsync?
[06:47] <gbushprogs> yes, some parts of it are a bit laggy atm.
[06:48] <elpis> apb1963:  what i want to achieve is for example the signal level is -30 dbm and the essid is TP_LINK , I want a command to get -30 and TP_LINK at the same time.
[06:49] <ikonia> gbushprogs: it's just opened the editor on that page fine for me, did you get that far, or did the error only happen when you clicked save
[06:50] <Flannel> ArsLap: you should find that one.  `sudo apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade` should tell you what it is (and not actually *do* anything)
[06:50] <ikonia> gbushprogs: just saved fine for me - added a "." on the end.
[06:50] <gbushprogs> I don't know if it's an error, it just says immutable page, and I don't know if I have to do something to edit it?
[06:51] <ikonia> gbushprogs just edited fine mor me, no problems
[06:54] <gbushprogs> I don't seem to have permissions to edit that page.
[06:54] <Anonynimity> I'm getting a low graphics mode error, and my computer won't boot normally... I finally got a desktop environment...
[06:54] <Anonynimity> but I need to get back to full functionality
[06:55] <ikonia> gbushprogs: to be honest that whole page needs a re-write as it's designed for 10.04 - which is dead now, and later versions are different
[06:56] <gbushprogs> I'm just looking to add one line to help people out that run into the same problem I ran into, and it won't affect those people that wouldn't run into the problem I had.
[06:56] <ikonia> gbushprogs the page needs a re-write
[06:57] <ArsLap> Flannel: libgksu2-0 ... o_O' upgraded it from 2 to 2.1
[06:57] <gbushprogs> hopefully it doesn't need a huge rewrite, I used part of it.
[06:57] <Anonynimity> pray for me...
[06:57] <ikonia> gbushprogs no, I don't think it needs to go from scratch, but there are certainly some core parts that need updates and some other parts that need verifying against current releases.
[06:58] <gbushprogs> maybe you can add this line for me, rofl
[06:58] <apb1963> elpis: Try this: http://ix.io/7CW
[06:58] <sett> hi, i need help. i've shared a folder with samba and there's a symlink to an a ntfs partition in the folder.  but remote system can't acces it due to rights.  how to i set them?
[06:58] <wachpwnski-mobi> gcp vs rsync
[06:59] <ikonia> gbushprogs, no, I think someone needs to look at the re-write/testing it on current releases for verification before making minor updates, needs to put into place for a current supported distro
[06:59] <wachpwnski-mobi> what is best, or does it not matter?
[06:59] <ikonia> wachpwnski-mobi: personal choice, use what you like
[07:00] <gbushprogs> It's not major, it's just to correct a problem if people are using smtp_bind_address in their main.cf. The master.cf needs an edit under the smtp-amavis service need to add -o smtp_bind_address=127.0.0.1 or else mail will get stuck in the queue.
[07:00] <ikonia> gbushprogs yes, it needs to be verified against current releases, and re-written inline with current releases.
[07:01] <ArsLap> Flannel: everything should be fine now right. I certainly hope so.
[07:01] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[07:02] <ArsLap> Flannel: In the meanwhile, at least I got my printer working.
[07:03] <elpis> apb1963: This is correct however what I want to get is only the value .
[07:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone give a helping hand? I have a ubuntu server setup and ubuntu as my localhost, I want to connect via ssh to the server using ssh-key preferably with my user so I don't use root.Is there a way I can add just the key and not create a user on the server that is the same as my localhost?
[07:03] <elpis>  what i want to achieve is for example the signal level is -30 dbm and the essid is TP_LINK , I want a command to get -30 and TP_LINK at the same time.
[07:03] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD you can't ssh as root - the root account is locked
[07:04] <Wiz_KeeD> i do ssh root@addr and it logs in
[07:04] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: then you have set a root password and unlocked the root account
[07:04] <elpis> apb1963:  what i want to achieve is for example the signal level is -30 dbm and the essid is TP_LINK , I want a command to get -30 and TP_LINK at the same time.
[07:04] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: which means you should have a basic idea of what you are doing.
[07:04] <Wiz_KeeD> there is a password on the root account
[07:04] <Wiz_KeeD> I just want to log in with my own username that has root privileges
[07:04] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD not by default there isn't
[07:04] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: then login as "user@ip"
[07:05] <Wiz_KeeD> there is no such user, that's what i'm asking do i need to create a new user or adding my ssh key in the ssh allowed keys is enough?
[07:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD you cannot "not have" a useraccout and just a root account
[07:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: can you please login to the machine and show me the output of "uname -a" please.
[07:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I have sent a notice
[07:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: just put it in the channel - don't notice the channel
[07:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I've noticed just you :)
[07:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: put it in the channel
[07:07] <Wiz_KeeD> Linux addr 3.5.0-34-generic #55~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 7 16:25:50 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:07] <gbushprogs> Wiz_KeeD - also, by default you cannot SSH as the user 'root'
[07:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so this appears to be a standard ubuntu kernel, suggesting a standard install
[07:07] <Wiz_KeeD> If everyone keeps saying that it must be true
[07:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that means 1.) the root account should be locked 2.) you should have a standard username
[07:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what happened to your machine, who set this up
[07:07] <Wiz_KeeD> a friend of mine
[07:08] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: then it appears he's made a mess,
[07:08] <Wiz_KeeD> why's that?
[07:08] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: can you pelase run "cat /etc/passwd" and put it in a pastebin please.
[07:08] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: he's made a mess for the reasons I've just said, there should be no root account available, no ssh as root, and there should be a standard user account for you with valid sudo rules
[07:08] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8276369
[07:09] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so this box appears to be bad - it has "ispconfig" installed, and no valid unprivileged user.
[07:09] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I suggest you talk to the person who set it up and explain he's setting up security risks on your machine and ask him to fix them
[07:10] <helmut_> hi
[07:13] <Wiz_KeeD> What would be the solution then
[07:13] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: exactly what I've just said, talk to the person who set this up, explain his setup is a mess/full of security holes, ask him to resovle them
[07:14] <Wiz_KeeD> :)
[07:22] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you ikonia
[07:23] <NickRice> I looked further into my problem.  I have x11 initialization error on ubuntu startup as well as "please check your display setup" error
[07:23] <Aquaword> hi, after an nvidia driver uninstall I miss the left and top toolbar in 13.04, any idea how to bring them back?
[07:23] <NickRice> i didn't touch any settings, ubuntu stopped starting up randomly, any ideas?
[07:24] <bustacap> Hey, I can't boot ubuntu on my computer for some reason :/ after the little menu to choose how to boot it gives me a blank screen and doesn't do anything.
[07:26] <NickRice> thats the same exact problem i have bustacap!
[07:27] <bustacap> Hmmmm
[07:27] <bustacap> I've never had this problem before!
[07:28] <NickRice> well
[07:28] <NickRice> what might work for you
[07:28] <Kartagis> bustacap: boot off LiveCD and re-install grub
[07:28] <NickRice> that failed for me
[07:28] <NickRice> ya i was gonna say that
[07:28] <NickRice> but
[07:28] <FloodBot1> NickRice: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <ikonia> why re-install grub ?
[07:30] <bustacap> Kartagis, I'm trying to just boot live
[07:30] <bustacap> Why would I need grub to use a livecd?
[07:31] <ikonia> why are you talking about re-installing grub ??
[07:32] <bustacap> I tried booting from a live cd and live usb 32bit and 64bit ubuntu and lubuntu. No luck. Black screen after splash :/
[07:33] <anton02> i need an xinput --disable command to run upon the login manager launching
[07:33] <anton02> what should i do?
[07:33] <convoi> !bitdefender
[07:34] <Kartagis> ikonia: apparently I was wrong
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> !av | convoi
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> bustacap, This happen to coincide with a kernel update?
[07:34] <quick____> hi guys i having issues installing phploc on ubuntu,   after successful installation it says : "Failed opening required 'SebastianBergmann/PHPLOC/autoload.php'
[07:35] <santhosh_>  <ubottu> but samba is also linux so it is required for anti virus for linux
[07:35] <bustacap> wilee-nilee, Nope. Just trying to run old live cd's I've used 1000 times in the past. I don't get why they don't work now.
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | bustacap maybe try this
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> bustacap, You don't say whether this is the exact same computer and even if so I would try nomodeset to knock it off the list of possibilities.
[07:37] <bustacap> The only difference is the video card has been taken out and put in my new computer
[07:37] <bustacap> So you may be right about that paramter
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> bustacap, That is a key bit if info.
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> of*
[07:37] <bustacap> I will try in a sec. I'm testing if my gparted livecd boots.
[07:37] <bustacap> That usually boots on anything
[07:37] <bustacap> Nope. Stupid ATI.
[07:38] <bustacap> This is why I like nvidia.
[07:38] <NickRice> Im having the same issue as bustacap guys, i tried nomodeset, i tried updating grub, I tried text.  Nomodeset takes me into a terminal to login with use and pass, but thats it, it stays in terminal mode, never logs in.
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[07:39] <wilee-nilee> NickRice, You could try nomodeset to but with a mac I would have no clue.
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> I missed thet post Nickeeh
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> NickRice,
[07:40] <bustacap> Trying nomodeset now.
[07:41] <bustacap> Worked for me :)
[07:41] <NickRice> oh it could just be failing cuz its a mac then....
[07:41] <NickRice> damn.. ill try a fresh reinstall when i get home i guess =/
[07:41] <santhosh_> iam logged ubuntu in root user in my case i did not get any sound drivers but normal user it is getting soung
[07:41] <apb1963> elpis: still there?
[07:41] <ikonia> santhosh_: you should not be logged in as root
[07:42] <bustacap> wilee-nilee, will i have to boot like this every time? If so, how do I do that?
[07:42] <santhosh_> iam logging root but it plays as aguest role
[07:42] <ikonia> santhosh_: you should not be logged in as root
[07:42] <apb1963> elpis: Try this...   http://ix.io/7CY
[07:43] <santhosh_> i have some sub floder acess in that case i am login as a root
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> bustacap, I would install and update and check additional drivers if you still get a black screen, in the install tick the update while installing and be plugged into the internet.
[07:43] <santhosh_> it is possible for login root users
[07:43] <santhosh_> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/login-as-root-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[07:43] <ikonia> santhosh_: you should not be logged in as root
[07:43] <ikonia> santhosh_: I'm aware it's possible, you don't seem to read the words that you SHOULD NOT be logged in as root
[07:44] <NickRice> Well since it worked for you busta you should update your drivers so you dont always have to start in nomodeset now, sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade I think is how you do it
[07:44] <santhosh_> is there any drawback
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> santhosh_, The link says exactly why you should not.
[07:45] <santhosh_> but in normal users the samba floder permissions is not acessing in subfloders
[07:45] <ikonia> santhosh_: that's just permissions problems to resolve with your samba setup
[07:45] <santhosh_> i face problem in mounting samba floders using wine
[07:45] <santhosh_> but it is working on cetos
[07:45] <ikonia> you don't mount using wine
[07:46] <ikonia> wine is for running programs, not mounting a disk
[07:46] <NickRice> when do i put nomodeset, maybe thats my problem?
[07:46] <NickRice> quiet splash nomodeset right
[07:46] <santhosh_> i have install an search program in wine  i want to search samba files
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> NickRice, grub menu check the link.
[07:47] <NickRice> no i mean
[07:47] <NickRice> i know where
[07:47] <ikonia> santhosh_ you're being to vague
[07:47] <santhosh_> iam using mount.cifs for samba server
[07:47] <santhosh_> vague what
[07:47] <ikonia> santhosh_: you don't use mount.cifs on the server, that's used on the client
[07:47] <SmokerFreak> good afternoon every one
[07:47] <elpis> apb1963: yes im still here
[07:48] <NickRice> i push e at the grub, then i edit $vt_handoff to nomodeset so it looks like quiet splash nomodeset.  Somewhere I saw that it's nomodeset_$vt_handoff
[07:48] <wilee-nilee> NickRice, Try running it without the quiet splash for a text boot to see any errors
[07:48] <abrkn> How can I debug an upstart script? I am receiving the error "Unknown job: snow-api" while there definitely is a /etc/init/snow-api.conf file
[07:48] <santhosh_> iam the client iam connecting on my server using that command
[07:48] <ikonia> santhosh_: what is the actual problem you want to fix ?
[07:48] <NickRice> i have, it just freezes or goes into the terminal and doesnt show anything
[07:49] <santhosh_> i want get the permissions of subfloders on ubuntu but the same setup is working on centos
[07:49] <ikonia> santhosh_: ok, so set the permissions correctly.
[07:50] <vtux> Hello, how can I delete a corrupted directory? It's not possible with rm -r, it's not showing with ls
[07:50] <ikonia> vtux: how do you know it's there then ?
[07:50] <NickRice> it asks me to login and when i do it has the terminal output thing ready for commands.  I tried opening codeblocks though and it said something about adjusting my Display and x11 failed to initialize
[07:50] <santhosh_> iam not the root user for samba  i dont have full access for samba
[07:50] <vtux> ikonia: it's not possible to create one with the same name. "stat" shows it correctly. Tried to delete it by inode value, however this also yielded no result
[07:51] <ikonia> santhosh_: I'm sorry, you're not making any sense with your description
[07:51] <ikonia> santhosh_: can you please run "ls -la" on one of the files you want to access please
[07:51] <santhosh_> sorry u did not undestand
[07:52] <ikonia> santhosh_ run ls -la against one of the files you want to access
[07:52] <ikonia> vtux: that sounds interesting,
[07:52] <santhosh_> that is the users permissions problems
[07:52] <elpis> apb1963: thanks it is running now... you save my day... thanks
[07:52] <ikonia> santhosh_: I'm sorry, I can't help as you dont seem to be able to explain the problem
[07:52] <Jordan_U> vtux: What filesystem are you using?
[07:52] <santhosh_> ok
[07:53] <aryans> ubuntu desktop shows orange color as blue and viseversa
[07:53] <aryans> can someone help
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> aryans, any info leading to this?
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[07:54] <vtux> ikonia: ext4
[07:54] <aryans> I am using HDMI
[07:54] <bustacap> So you all know... It helps when installing an os, when you have the power cable conneted to your hard drive.
[07:54] <Jordan_U> vtux: Have you checked the filesystem with fsck (while not mounted)?
[07:54] <anton02> i need an xinput --disable command to run upon the login manager launching
[07:54] <anton02> what should i do?
[07:54] <santhosh_> just unplug  the cable and replug it
[07:54] <vtux> Jordan-u yep, returned ok
[07:55] <anton02> santhosh_: top lel
[07:55] <Jordan_U> vtux: Did you specifically do "fsck -f" to check the filesystem even though it had been unmounted cleanly?
[07:55] <santhosh_> ] <Jordan_U> run fsck it is displaying filesystem
[07:55] <convoi> !blackberry
[07:55] <Jordan_U> !tab | vtux santhosh_
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> aryans, I only talk on the channel, and don't do that without asking first.
[07:56] <convoi> !linberry
[07:56] <santhosh_> using mount it can give  some hint
[07:57] <vtux> Jordan_U: yes
[07:57] <missvaleska> Hiya, I seem to have a confirmation problem, Almost everything I install from the ubuntu software center or even the updates says unverified or what ever it's called.
[07:57] <Jordan_U> vtux: Very odd.
[07:57] <vtux> yes
[07:58] <aryans> Sorry for the inconvenience
[07:58] <vtux> Jordan_U: even that deleting by inode value doesn't work
[07:58] <Jordan_U> missvaleska: Try running "sudo apt-get update"/
[07:58] <missvaleska> It's okay! It's not an inconvince!
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> missvaleska, Run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade and pastebin all the text.
[07:58] <santhosh_> it si not updated in soft ware center just update the system <missvaleska>
[07:58] <Jordan_U> vtux: How are you trying to delete by inode value? What is the exact path to the file and what is the exact output from stat?
[07:59] <missvaleska> Alright, But I've tried that before.
[08:00] <user258467> Hi, How do I create a ubuntu launcher because use a bash script like ./foo & is not a good idea
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> missvaleska, You have probably added a ppa without the key do the pastebin.
[08:00] <missvaleska> No no
[08:00] <missvaleska> It happens with almost EVERYTHING I install
[08:00] <missvaleska> Even just the normal updates
[08:00] <missvaleska> SO it's not just one ppa
[08:00] <santhosh_> but u have ip full access
[08:01] <vtux> Jordan_U:  File: `callspy'
[08:01] <vtux>   Size: 4096            Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   directory
[08:01] <vtux> Device: 16h/22d Inode: 10887173    Links: 2
[08:01] <vtux> Access: (0700/drwx------)  Uid: ( 1000/ dhluser)   Gid: ( 1000/ dhluser)
[08:01] <vtux> Access: 2013-08-28 10:23:20.000000000 +0300
[08:01] <vtux> Modify: 2013-08-28 10:13:16.796470633 +0300
[08:01] <vtux> Change: 2013-08-28 10:13:16.796470633 +0300
[08:01] <FloodBot1> vtux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | vtux
[08:02] <apb1963> vtux: did you try rm -rf ?  <<< note the lower case F
[08:02] <vtux> apb1963: yes, didn't work either
[08:03] <apb1963> how about unlink?
[08:03] <Jordan_U> vtux: How are you deleting by inode?
[08:03] <vtux> Jordan_U: it's int the pastebin
[08:04] <NeverHere`> meh
[08:04] <Jordan_U> vtux: You need to post the link to the paste in the channel.
[08:04] <santhosh_> http://superuser.com/questions/143125/remove-a-file-on-linux-using-the-inode-number <@Jordan_U>
[08:05] <vtux> Jordan_U: did it, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6035754/
[08:05] <NeverHere`> So I accidentally created a filesystem loop while trying to mount a usb drive. Anyone know how to undo the loop without crashing the server?
[08:06] <vtux> apb1963: unlink: cannot unlink `callspy': Is a directory
[08:06] <NickRice> UPDATE: Ok, so i tried nomodeset without quiet splash and i ended up being stuck with a blinking cursor at the top left of the screen, nothing happened.  I then tried with quiet splash and it got stuck at the splash screen with all 5 dots red.  I have no clue what's going on
[08:07] <apb1963> vtux and what does ls -l say ?
[08:07] <vtux> apb1963: it's not showing it
[08:07] <apb1963> no error or anything?
[08:07] <santhosh_> permissions <apb>
[08:07] <vtux> apb1963: according to ls, rm and mv there is no such directory
[08:08] <vtux> apb1963: however mkdir returns directory already exists
[08:08] <apb1963> rmdir
[08:08] <gordonjcp> vtux: what *exactly* are you typing?
[08:08] <gordonjcp> vtux: oh wait, I see your pastebin
[08:09] <apb1963> didn't see that
[08:09] <apb1963> 2 links.  derp
[08:09] <NickRice> im just buying a windows.
[08:10] <vtux> NickRice: also buy the premium support package
[08:10] <NeverHere`> lol
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> double pain. ;)
[08:11] <NickRice> I dont understand, i did literally nothing to this laptop, ubuntu failed out of no where, so frustrating.
[08:12] <gordonjcp> NickRice: that points to a hardware failure
  u cant update in that it is loosing their os
[08:13] <santhosh_> or any h/w problem
[08:13] <NickRice> well osx boots up no problem, this laptop is practically new, hardware can't be failing...Santosh_: I can't update in what?
[08:13] <santhosh_> u using in ubuntu
[08:13] <vtux> clear
[08:14] <NickRice> i don't understand,?  Im on osx right now, ubuntu is on a 100mb partition on this harddrive
[08:15] <NeverHere`> lol
[08:15] <NeverHere`> 100mb?
[08:16] <NickRice> gb*
[08:16] <NickRice>  lol
[08:16] <NickRice> 100gb*
[08:16] <convoi> ^^
[08:16] <xmetal> that seems like the type of issue i have with Mint (yes ye sanother distro i know) on my old laptop
[08:16] <NickRice> mm, i guess i have no choice but to fresh install
[08:16] <xmetal> seems like everything is starting to load fine (liveusb) and then the screen goes off and just stays that way
[08:17] <killzone> what program are yall running on? backtrack?
[08:17] <Wiz_KeeD> how do you add a command from exception of password for a user?
[08:17] <Wiz_KeeD> so it can do sudo /etc/init.d/script restart
[08:17] <Wiz_KeeD> without entering the password
[08:17] <santhosh_> usind adduser command
[08:18] <Wiz_KeeD> sorry?
[08:18] <Wiz_KeeD> I remember editing a file and adding the exception somehow
[08:18] <NickRice> ubuntu is my favorite operating system, i just wish i didn't have so many problems with it
[08:19] <apb1963> vtux: fix it?
[08:19] <Wiz_KeeD> it says sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[08:19] <vtux> apb1963: nope
[08:19] <santhosh_> what problems
[08:19] <apb1963> vtux: find / -inum $(stat -c %i callspy)
[08:20] <NickRice> overheating, startup issues, significant battery use loss as a result of overheating
[08:21] <santhosh_> u use ubuntu 12.04 it getting some drawbacks liks loading
[08:21] <santhosh_> and u overheating is h/w problem
[08:21] <NickRice> so 12.04 is no good?
[08:21] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone help?
[08:21] <santhosh_> some drawbacks
[08:21] <NickRice> i dont understand how its the hardware if it runs with no problems on osx on the same computer?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: do you use Optimus (switching) GPU?
[08:22] <santhosh_> it is the loading issue
[08:22] <NickRice> Id assume not seeing as how I dont even know what that is
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: OSX is specifically made for Mac hardware, it is configured specifically for the hardware in your system. So it will obviously run well.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     do you see an Intel and an Nvidia GPU?
[08:23] <NickRice> ActionParsnip: Let me try it and get back to you, give me 2 minutes to restart and try
[08:24] <NickRice> is that an ishw or Lshw?
[08:24] <blazemore> !sudo | Wiz_KeeD
[08:24] <santhosh_> just type "system moniter" in dash board it will tell u all process and loading
[08:24] <NickRice> i cant enter ubuntu
[08:24] <manik> Hello.
[08:24] <NickRice> it wont even start up so i cant do taht
[08:24] <NickRice> i can start up the terminal at the startup though
[08:24] <santhosh_> just enter it and type
[08:24] <vtux> apb1963: that did it!!
[08:25] <santhosh_> hello
[08:25] <Wiz_KeeD> Yes blazemore but i just need password exception for a user on a single file in /etc/init.d/
[08:25] <manik> Can anybody tell me a file manager which gives similar search option like Windows Explorer?
[08:25] <pdimov> Hi, I have ubuntu 12.04 with apache2 and php5
[08:25] <santhosh_> k
[08:25] <pdimov> but I can not set default timezone
[08:26] <santhosh_> that is not issue for apache and php
[08:26] <blazemore> manik: dolphin
[08:26] <pdimov> change in php.ini dont cause nothing
[08:26] <apb1963> Wiz_KeeD: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=execute-sudo-without-password
[08:26] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah i did that
[08:27] <apb1963> then you're all set!
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Nickeeh: LSHW   in lower case
[08:27] <manik> blazemore Doubt if it has search feature like Windows Explorer.... What say?
[08:27] <blazemore> manik: Don't try it then
[08:27] <manik> Need to search for every directory inside blazemore
[08:27] <deerow> hi
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> manik: nautilus can search, or run:  sudo updatedb   then use: locate   in a terminal
[08:27] <deerow> so any one can tel how i can migrate user + setings + data  from unbuntu 10 to virtual unbuntu 14.06 lts
[08:27] <Wiz_KeeD> not really
[08:27] <Wiz_KeeD> anyway
[08:27] <Wiz_KeeD> nwm
[08:28] <manik> No GUI-only option? ActionParsnip
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: if you make command aliases in a group, you can make certain users not need password entries for certain commands
[08:28] <deerow> it has sowtware raid 5
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> manik: not something I use much off tbh
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> manik: seahorse maybe....
[08:28] <deerow> so any one can tel how i can migrate user + setings + data  from unbuntu 10 to virtual unbuntu 14.06 lts
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !info seahorse
[08:28] <deerow> it has sowtware raid 5
[08:28] <apb1963> vtux: Glad it worked for you
[08:28] <Wiz_KeeD> how do you do that ActionParsnip ?
[08:29] <deerow> any server spec???
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> deerow: the OS is called Ubuntu, not Unbuntu
[08:29] <manik> ActionParsnip Let me try Seahorse. Haven't heard about it before, though.
[08:29] <XXX> Hi, I'm gonna install Ubuntu on a MacBook. Should I use the alternative iso for Macintosh computers or stick with the 64 bit isdo?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> manik: search in softare centre for 'search' se what comes up
[08:29]  * apb1963 makes a bunt cake
[08:29] <deerow> any server spec???
[08:30] <deerow> any server spec???
[08:30] <manik> I previously searched for File Manager but got a lot of result pachages. Actionparsnip
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> deerow: 'ubuntu 10' isn't a thing either
[08:30] <deerow> so any one can tel how i can migrate user + setings + data  from unbuntu 10 to virtual ubuntu 14.06 lts
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> deerow: just keep backups, when 14.04 comes out, restore from backup
[08:30] <NickRice> sudo lshw -c did nothib.
[08:30] <NickRice> nothing*
[08:31] <ezra-s> I thought it was Unbuntun
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Nickeeh: sudo lshw -C display
[08:31] <ezra-s> :P
[08:31] <deerow> so any one can tel how i can migrate user + setings + data  from ubuntu 10.04 lts to virtual ubuntu 14.06 lts
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Nickeeh: note the case
[08:31] <NickRice> ok
[08:31] <blazemore> deerow: 14.06 isn't out, the latest version is 13.04
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> deerow: you will need to upgrade to 12.04 first, 14.04 isnt even out in any way
[08:32] <deerow> for server 12.04 is enoght
[08:32] <ezra-s> deerow, you will need to pray first
[08:32]  * apb1963 prepares to upgrade to 15.12
[08:32] <manik> Not getting any relevant result actionparsnip
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> manik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FindingFiles
[08:33] <deerow> I use citrix xen server
[08:33] <deerow> so it has snapshot
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> manik: simple websearch, took me literally 3 seconds
[08:33] <deerow> i dont need backup
[08:33] <manik> Need a file Manager with good search feature
[08:33] <manik> already did that before actionparsnip
[08:33] <apb1963> The windows hordes are coming
[08:33] <Wiz_KeeD> it will not work !1
[08:33] <apb1963> batten down the hatches
[08:33] <Wiz_KeeD> wiz ALL = NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/personal-script
[08:34] <XXX> Hi, I'm gonna install Ubuntu on a MacBook. Should I use the alternative iso for Macintosh computers or stick with the 64 bit isdo?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> manik: http://www.howtogeek.com/117494/7-ubuntu-file-manager-features-you-may-not-have-noticed/
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> manik: http://askubuntu.com/questions/167203/how-to-search-for-files-and-file-contents-with-gui
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> manik: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=file+manager+with+good+search+feature+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> manik: thats all I did.....?
[08:34] <manik> Last one seems better. Thanks, actionparsnip
[08:34] <deerow> ups realy 12.04 my fault
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> manik: heard of google?
[08:35] <deerow> so any one can tel how i can migrate user + setings + data  from ubuntu 10.04 lts to virtual ubuntu 12.04 lts
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> deerow: you can upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 in one jump as it is LTS to LTS
[08:35] <manik> I already told you I have tried searching on the Web a few times actionparsnip
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> manik: I searched for exactly what youy said:  09:33 < manik> Need a file Manager with good search feature
[08:35] <deerow> i need server runing
[08:36] <manik> Last result didn't come up for me?
[08:36] <deerow> thats why i ask for help
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> deerow: you will need a maintenance window to run the upgrade
[08:36] <manik> actionparsnip
[08:36] <deerow> to migrate runing server
[08:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Does anyone know why sticking wiz ALL = NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/personal-script under root in "sudo visudo" still asks for a password when i do sudo /etc/init.d/personal-script restart
[08:36] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[08:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: your system is not in an aceptable state
[08:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: as I told you earlier
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> manik: i searched exactly what you said and got that. What can I say.
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> manik: also try:  duckduckgo.com too
[08:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: 1.) you should not be logged in as root 2.) you should have a non-privileged user 3.) you have no need to use sudo as root
[08:36] <Wiz_KeeD> not acceptable? that's the logical explanation why my user who is in sudoers doesn't work?
[08:37] <manik> Okay. I am am not telling the truth, if you really want to hear that /s. actionparsnip
[08:37] <Wiz_KeeD> I am logged in as a personal user that is in sudoers file
[08:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you just said you are root
[08:37] <Wiz_KeeD> no i'm not, at least not now
[08:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you said you where root a few lines up
[08:37] <Wiz_KeeD> under root meaning under the line in visudo
[08:37] <OpenCast> Am i in the right place
[08:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: please show me the output of the command "id"
[08:38] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, under the line that defines nopasswd for root
[08:38] <Wiz_KeeD> uid=1000(wiz) gid=1000(wiz) groups=1000(wiz),27(sudo),119(openerp)
[08:38] <sett> anyone know what should i install to enable gmusicbrowser to play mp3 in 12.04?
[08:38] <deerow> so any one can tel how i can migrate user + setings + data  from ubuntu 10.04 lts to virtual ubuntu 12.04 lts
[08:39] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: can you show me your full sudo line please.
[08:39] <Wiz_KeeD> yes sure ikonia
[08:39] <XXX> deerow: to move user, just copy the /home-folder
[08:39] <blazemore> sett: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> deerow: use your backups.
[08:40] <XXX> deerow: system wide settings are usually stored in /etc
[08:40] <deerow> sudo rsync --exclude="mnt" --exclude="lost+found" --exclude="sys" --exclude="proc" -avP / /mnt/ $ sudo mkdir /mnt/mnt /mnt/proc /mnt/sys
[08:40] <NickRice> *-display unclaimed
[08:40] <NickRice> is what it says
[08:40] <deerow> xxx also setings
[08:40] <deerow> and acess
[08:40] <XXX> you can just udsr rsync or make an iso of the filesystem (clone it)
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: what video chips do you see, the product line is what we need you to describe
[08:41] <XXX> *use
[08:41] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, this is after it failed to work just for that script and tried the wildcard :http://pastie.org/8276504
[08:41] <NickRice> vga compatible controller
[08:41] <NickRice> intel corp
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: did you see an Intel GPU and an Nvidia GPU?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: any Nvidia?
[08:41] <NickRice> no, nothing like that
[08:41] <NickRice> no nvidia
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: cool, much easier
[08:41] <NickRice> there was something that said intel corp tho
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: and if you run:  cat /etc/issue    what is output?
[08:41] <A[D]minS> Guys, I'm trying to get a thread dump via kill -3 PID , however i don't know where is the output has been written  , is there a possibility  to redirect the output to defined file?
[08:41] <NickRice> lol, brb
[08:42] <deerow> so now it rsync
[08:43] <manik> meh options actionparsnip
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> deerow: do you not have backups?
[08:43] <NeverHere`> So no one can help with my file loop problem?
[08:43] <deerow> after i have question about how to put in virtual machine linux
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> manik: welcome to Linux
[08:43] <manik> orly actionparsnip
[08:43] <FourFire> Hello, how is support for tethering of wireless routers?
[08:44] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: remove the space between : and ALL
[08:44] <Wiz_KeeD> I did before, but i will again if you say
[08:44] <deerow> after i have question about how to put in virtual machine linux???+
[08:44] <deerow> it is bacup server
[08:44] <deerow> so sorry i dont have backup for backup
[08:44] <deerow> :D
[08:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Asking for password ikonia
[08:45] <Wiz_KeeD> Mind you i logout and login via ssh every time
[08:45] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: how are you editing the file ?
[08:45] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what command
[08:46] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo visudo ikonia
[08:46] <NickRice> ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \1 is the output for cat /etc/issue
[08:46] <ikonia> ok good, so the syntax should be good
[08:47] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, the permission to login as root via ssh has been removed
[08:47] <deerow> yeah
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: could try the Unity2D session at the login screen. May help
[08:47] <NickRice> i cant even reach the login screen
[08:47] <NickRice> goes to grub
[08:48] <NickRice> i hit enter on ubuntu at grub, the screen turns purple, the splash screen flashes for half a second, then goes completely black
[08:48] <A[D]minS> no one knows about thread dump?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: then how did you run the commands I gave? Grub woul not process those commands
[08:48] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that line looks valid,
[08:48] <NickRice> i went into recovery mode with grub
[08:48] <NickRice> then used the root access terminal from there
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: have you got full updates from recovery console?
[08:49] <NickRice> yup!  it was the first thing i did
[08:49] <NickRice> sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:49] <NickRice> and then i updated grub too
[08:49] <Wiz_KeeD> then I have no idea what's wrong ikonia
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: try the boot option:  nomodeset    in Grub
[08:50] <NickRice> alreadddy have
[08:51] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: put the line "wiz ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL" in place of your line, just to confirm please.
[08:51] <NickRice> the issue with it was that then it would get stuck at the splash screen.  no black screen but gets stuck at splash instead
[08:51] <NickRice> that or it would just enter the terminal
[08:51] <Wiz_KeeD> ok ikonia
[08:51] <owlbread> NickRice: You wouldn't happen to be using an ex-Windows 8 machine are you?
[08:52] <Wiz_KeeD> still asking for password ikonia
[08:52] <NickRice> purebread macbook pro
[08:52] <NickRice> it worked for 3 months straight, today all of a sudden it began to fail me
[08:52] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: open a new session, login directly as your user and please confirm
[08:52] <owlbread> NickRice: ah fair enough.  I had a simlar sounding issue on a brand new windows 8 machine a while back
[08:53] <NickRice> owlbread: How did you solve it?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | NickRice
[08:53] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, that's what i did, logout then ssh ip then sudo /etc/init.d/openerp-server restart
[08:54] <Wiz_KeeD> and i get asked for password
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: seems silly to buy a mac then not use mac os
[08:54] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: just run something such as "sudo ls" what happens
[08:54] <Wiz_KeeD> asks for password ikonia
[08:54] <NickRice> I use linux for programming purposes only, I don't like to program using osx, I use osx for everything else
[08:55] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, if you put the password in, does it work
[08:55] <NickRice> and ive tried nomodeset several different ways, it hasn't worked.
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> NickRice: could run Ubuntu in a VM then, if all you are doing is programming
[08:55] <Wiz_KeeD> of course it does ikonia
[08:55] <NickRice> I fear running it in a vm might cause the mac to overheat since its running 2 os's at once
[08:56] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so whats happening is your personal rule is conflicting with the sudo group rule
[08:56] <NickRice> and linux already overheats so I fear it could be twice as bad
[08:56] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: remove yourself from the sudo group and try again
[08:56] <NickRice> and I also dont wanna sacrifice speed with my ram working on 2 different os's at once
[08:56] <NickRice> thought I have considered it
[08:57] <Wiz_KeeD> why would I do that ikonia ?
[08:57] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: for the reason I've just stated
[08:57] <Wiz_KeeD> ah didn't see it
[08:58] <Wiz_KeeD> but i remember doing it a while back on another server and it worked
[08:58] <Wiz_KeeD> i can check that configuration that works
[08:58] <ixio2> whast the easiest way to give a user access to antoher users home directory? user needs RWX access
[08:59] <NickRice> Idk, I guess it must be a lost cause.  Ill delete the partition and restore it and just use vbox i guess.  I guess just for programming it shouldn't run too much slower
[08:59] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, the other server has wiz ALL=NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/openerp-server restart
[08:59] <ixio2> I tried adding the user to the other users primary group but that didnt work
[08:59] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: thats just one command
[08:59] <Wiz_KeeD> and that works...
[09:01] <Extreminador> guy i was traying to install e17 in a clean bodhi instalation but it's giving a bunch of errors
[09:01] <Extreminador> ups wrong channel
[09:01] <esing> I couldn't mount usb devices in ubuntu and I did this workound around in post #2 Post #2 solved the issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2007916
[09:02] <esing> Now I can mount usb devices again. Is it a bad workaround and should I fix it differently?
[09:02] <esing> udisks showed this error when issuing udisks --mount /dev/sde  : Mount failed: Not Authorized
[09:04] <jordanrx123> hello all :D , i will join on the room
[09:06] <jordanrx123> i have problem dns server , do you have solutions ? please help me :D
[09:08] <owlbread> jordanrx123: what's the problem?
[09:08] <convoi> !wine
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Extreminador: Bodhi isn't supported here
[09:11] <Extreminador> ActionParsnip like i said "wrong channel"
[09:11] <Apachez> whats the proper way to hide ALL users from the login screen in newer ubuntu?
[09:12] <Apachez> edit minimum-uid /etc/lightdm/users.conf and set it to 4294967296 ?
[09:16] <MACscr> how do i format all disks and remove any type of software arrays, etc, during the ubuntu install?
[09:16] <MACscr> i cant seem to figure out how to start from scratch
[09:16] <ice9> Apachez, hidden-users= <usernames> <user2>
[09:16] <blazemore> MACscr: The LiveCD comes with the gparted partition editor
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> MACscr: could use dd or dban
[09:16] <MACscr> ok, so do i just open up another shell?
[09:17] <MACscr> im doing the netinstall
[09:19] <Apachez> ice9: that doesnt work... I want to hide ALL users
[09:20] <Apachez> I dont want to change that conf file each time a new user is setup
[09:22] <blazemore> Can anyone recommend a whois daemon for Ubuntu which can handle large number of records? swhoisd says no more than 1000
[09:23] <ice9> Apachez, try this: "greeter-hide-users=true"  also if you want "allow-guest=false", if didn't work then "minimum-uid"
[09:27] <ice9> Apachez, did it work?
[09:40] <ubuntivity> Hello, I've downloaded a font from Google Fonts as a .zip file. How can I use it as a system font in Ubuntu? Where should I place/unpack the .zip file?
[09:40]  * ubuntivity uses Ubuntu 12.04
[09:42] <DJones> !fonts | Ubuntivity First link should help you install the font,
[09:42] <WebbyIT> ubuntivity, if it's only for you, in ~/.fonts
[09:43] <Ubuntivity> Thanks. WebbyIT: should I place it as a .zip or should I unpack it there?
[09:43] <WebbyIT> Ubuntivity, unpack it
[09:44] <Ubuntivity> OK, thanks WebbyIT
[09:48] <NeverHere`> Anyone know how to fix a filesystem loop?
[09:53] <MACscr> grr, i cant for the life of me get rid of the software raid its showing
[09:53] <MACscr> driving me nuts!
[09:53] <MACscr> ive stopped the raid, but cant seem to do so zero-superblock on either of them
[09:54] <MACscr> i dont get why the installer just doesnt have a delete raid option
[09:54] <MACscr> i mean, if you can create something, why cant you remove it
[09:54] <owlbread> NeverHere`: What do you mean by filesystem loop?
[09:55] <NeverHere`> owlbread, i was trying to mount a usb and noobidly mounted / instead, no i have / and /seagate that are the same
[09:55] <MACscr> im like 3 hours into just trying to install the OS because of issues like this and trying to get a proper usb boot drive to work to do the install in the first place
[09:57] <owlbread> NeverHere`: i see,  surely / would have been mounted already?
[09:57] <NeverHere`> owlbread, ya....well it was but i created a dir in mnt somehow, was reading a tutorial online...
[09:59] <legend321> Hi there. Ever since i installed ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS i get all the sounds accompanied by a static. What should i do?
[10:00] <legend321> There are two audio devices attached to my pc. One built in Intel audio card and other yamaha audio card which fits in PCI slot.
[10:01] <legend321> All the sounds work fine with Intel audio card but not with yamaha audio card.
[10:01] <legend321> I checked the card and speakers on Windows 7, and they are working fine under it.
[10:02] <NeverHere`> legend321, did you check restricted drivers?
[10:03] <legend321> NeverHere`: I have installed ubuntu restricted extras. By the way, with system sounds too, i can hear static sound.
[10:03] <NeverHere`> maybe its your speakers?
[10:04] <legend321> No. I have checked. Both speakers and audio card is working fine under windows 7. I am on dual boot.
[10:07] <jvm_> hi. ever since i installed a SSD drive for my home partition, my system is really fast, but: the standby mode is working no longer. (it worked before the SSD was there.) when waking up, the screen stays black, and the system is dead. any hint on something i can do? you'd help me be energy-efficient...
[10:08] <cfhowlett> jvm_, no /swap, no standby is my understanding ...
[10:10] <thurstylark> I'm running 12.10, and I can't seem to install the noip2 package. sudo apt-get install noip2 returns with unable to locate package. Any ideas?
[10:12] <cfhowlett> thurstylark, no such package on 12.04 and I have all repos except proposed enabled ...
[10:12] <thurstylark> strange. Can you check any other distro's repos?
[10:12] <DJones> thurstylark: Looks like it doesn't exist after lucid
[10:12] <jvm_> cfhowlett, thanks for pointing me there.
[10:13] <thurstylark> awesome.
[10:13] <cfhowlett> jvm_, fixed?
[10:13] <jvm_> cfhowlett, not yet, but i know where to look!
[10:14] <cfhowlett> jvm_, outstanding.
[10:14] <jvm_> cfhowlett, swap should only be related to hibernate, not standby. or not?
[10:14] <thurstylark> guess I'll be building from the tarball
[10:15] <legend321> Can anyone help?
[10:16] <legend321> Sound was working fine lately in ubuntu 11.10
[10:16] <cfhowlett> jvm_, over my head, but I can't see how they're NOT related ...
[10:27] <jvm_> cfhowlett, i am talking about the "suspend to ram" feature. shouldn't take any swap! but now i fixed the swap configuration, mounted it, and tried: still no working standby.
[10:28] <kurupt_> #archlinux
[10:29] <cfhowlett> jvm_, ask again in the channel and provide details.  this one is over my rating.  sorry.
[10:29] <jvm_> cfhowlett, thank you still. have a nice day!
[10:30] <ixio2> !ot
[10:30] <jvm_> hi. ever since i installed a SSD drive for my home partition, my system is really fast, but: the standby (suspend to ram) mode is working no longer. (it worked before the SSD was there.) when waking up, the screen stays black, and the system is dead. any hint on something i can do? you'd help me be energy-efficient...
[10:31] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:32] <BluesKaj> jvm_, did you create a awap partition equal to or greater than your RAM on the  drive?
[10:33] <BluesKaj> awap-swap
[10:33] <jvm_> BluesKaj, um...not quite. but still... it's called "suspend to ram".
[10:37] <jcdenton> Hello
[10:37] <jcdenton> Is there an ubuntu version for tablets? for arm cpus i mean
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !touch|jcdenton,
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !arm
[10:38] <cfhowlett> jcdenton, on an unrelated note, DX 1 runs great on wine ... and now that I've mentioned it, someone will reinstall it.
[10:38] <jcdenton> hahaha
[10:38] <jcdenton> i'll reinstall it
[10:39] <Apachez> http://imgur.com/gallery/yHRvaZ6
[10:48] <BluesKaj> jvm , maybe you're suspending to both ?
[10:50] <flipper88_fl> is clip grab in the repositories?
[10:51] <pixiebit> Is there an easy way to disable xorg edgers? I google'd around and found complicated stuff
[10:52] <jrib> pixiebit: ppa-purge?  But downgrading is unsupported, so if you don't already have back-ups, you should make some
[10:53] <pixiebit> make back-ups? of what?
[10:53] <HisaoNakai> pixiebit: There was a xorg channel around... o_O
[10:53] <jrib> pixiebit: anything you would want recovered if a meteor destroyed your computer?
[10:54] <pixiebit> yes. i would want to recover all my files in home
[10:54] <pixiebit> and my windows partition
[10:54] <jrib> pixiebit: you already have back-ups?
[10:54] <pixiebit> no
[10:54] <jrib> pixiebit: then you should make some -- even if you're not messing with xorg-edgers
[10:54] <pixiebit> okay but i don't have an external drive
[10:55] <pixiebit> and my files are about 150 gb
[10:55] <jrib> pixiebit: if you don't have backups of a file, it's not a file you care about
[10:56] <pixiebit> i care about them, but i don't want to buy an external drive and sync it periodically
[10:56] <blazemore> how are you backing them up then pixiebit ?
[10:56] <pixiebit> I'm not
[10:56] <ozux> Any ne uses MultiSystem here? I have a problem, which the language is French and is not changing !!
[10:56] <jrib> pixiebit: just my opinion.  Everyone is lax about back-ups until that first time they lose some files forever.  Anyway, ppa-purge is probably fine and I doubt that it will actually destroy your files.  But I advise you to invest in proper back-ups for files you care about
[10:57] <pixiebit> I lost a bunch of files when I accidentally dban'd my computer.
[10:57] <blazemore> pixiebit: Even if you just get Dropbox or something similar and throw important stuff in there
[10:58] <pixiebit> Okay. I'll get Dropbox to sync everything but my downloads folder.
[11:00] <pixiebit> Haha I only have .7 gb outside of downloads.
[11:01] <wildon> someone give windows 7 .iso
[11:01] <OerHeks> wildon, ask in ##windows for the download url
[11:02] <clue_h> wildon, http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/14709-Windows-7-Digital-River-direct-links-Multiple-Languages-X86-amp-X64/page72
[11:03] <BluesKaj> !warez | wildon
[11:03] <cfhowlett> wildon,  wrong channel.
[11:03] <pixiebit> I found both xorg channels. Thanks guys. :-)
[11:04] <wildon> lion
[11:04] <wildon> fine
[11:04] <wildon> got
[11:04]  * ezra-s slaps wildon
[11:24] <lenzeor> Hey there, I have a question concerning DEs. I want to run ubuntu with gnome 3, unfortunately the ubuntu gnome remix cannot install alongside my windows partition that I need for work (known bug). I tried to build from the ubuntu minimal iso, but that one didn't install GRUB properly either. So I ended up installing lubuntu and then apt-getting "gnome". When I did that, it automatically installed a shitload of packages, amongst them unity and
[11:24] <lenzeor>  openbox. How do I remove those?
[11:24] <FloodBot1> lenzeor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:25] <ikonia> lenzeor: ubuntu gnome-remix is not an official ubuntu release/product
[11:25] <ikonia> lenzeor: if you could also self moderate your language in the ubuntu channels, that would really be appreciated
[11:27] <lenzeor> Whoops, sorry everybody
[11:30] <ikonia> lenzeor: not a problem
[11:35] <shamik> Hi
[11:39] <lysk9884> any italian here?
[11:40] <blazemore> I just clobbered a couple of directory permissions with Puppet, can someone please give me the full permission for /bin and /sbin including user/group ?
[11:40] <blazemore> !it | lysk9884
[11:40] <lysk9884> what is "GIFT SENT"
[11:40] <lysk9884> in italian
[11:40] <lysk9884> i need quick fix on localizaiton process
[11:40] <lysk9884> i missed this line :(
[11:40] <h4xx__> hi all!
[11:42] <h4xx__> I'm kinda new to ubuntu/linux. I'm using XChat for IRC. When I'm closing the app and select "minimize to tray" the app just closes as if I'm selecting exit. What's up with that?
[11:43] <h4xx__> and does ubuntu has a app simple like paint.exe?
[11:43] <lenzeor> h4xx__, yeah it does exist
[11:43] <lenzeor> it's called pinta, get it by typing "sudo apt-get install pinta" into a terminal h4xx__
[11:44] <h4xx__> I'll check that. ty
[11:44] <pixiebit> I guess I'm edging it up instead of uninstalling it. New intel drivers and everything. I srsly hope I don't die.
[11:45] <lenzeor> There's also Inkscape if you wanna go more advanced, and of course (you probably already know) GIMP
[11:45] <h4xx__> na just as simple as it gets :) no serious intention
[11:46] <lenzeor> Yeah, then Pinta is your best bet h4xx__ tell me how you like it
[11:46] <OerHeks> !find paint
[11:46] <Sicno> hi
[11:47] <h4xx__> just perfekt lenzeor. tyvm
[11:47] <lysk9884> #joing ubuntu-kor
[11:47] <lenzeor> :>
[11:47] <lenzeor> OerHeks, yeah, there's lots.
[11:47] <Sicno> I wanted to ask for some help
[11:47] <lenzeor> !ask
[11:48] <Sicno> I'm trying to make a bootable usb drive to try and later install ubuntu in an all-in-one HP pc
[11:48] <Sicno> I'm using Lili but so far I haven't been able to boot it a single time on that pc
[11:49] <quick> hi
[11:49] <Sicno> on my own pc I tried it yesterday and it had no problems at all, but on the HP one it's no use
[11:49] <Sicno> tried different versions and it's no use
[11:50] <lenzeor> Sicno, I'm not a channel official, but try unetbootin
[11:50] <Sicno> ok, I'll try
[11:50] <lenzeor> it's in the official repo, you can get it by "sudo apt-get install unetbootin"
[11:50] <stlu> Sicno: have you set up the HP pc to boot from USB stick?
[11:50] <Sicno> yes
[11:51] <stlu> Is it set as the #1 choice in the boot order?
[11:51] <Sicno> it starts trying to boot ubuntu but depending on the version it throws a fatal exception or a lot of text at the speed of light
[11:52] <Sicno> I get the purple screen, can choose to start a live session or install but at some point it stops working
[11:52] <stlu> Ok, so it is *booting*, but something goes wrong under that hardware.
[11:52] <christos_> anyone for help pls?
[11:52] <h4xx__> !ask
[11:52] <christos_> i bought a usb  wifi
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Sicno, which OS is installed atm?
[11:53] <christos_> but the read me
[11:53] <christos_> its not so good and i cant understand something who can help  me?
[11:53] <h4xx__> define your problem
[11:53] <umpalumpa> hi, i use dirvish for backups - shouldn'T backups preserve file permissions? the backups of my home dir belong to root - don't think that's correct
[11:54] <Sicno> windows 7, but yesterday I had it with no HDD trying to boot a live session from the usb drive and it was exactly the same result
[11:55] <bl4ckdu5t> I just installed Ubuntu on this machine and I am trying to do some apt download and even updates but I get this error: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:55] <clue_h> umpalumpa, do you want to change the permissions then
[11:55] <bl4ckdu5t> What can I do to fix this?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> b4 close your package manager
[11:56] <flipper88_fl> bl4ckdu5t: try sudo apt-get update
[11:56] <clue_h> bl4ckdu5t, updater may be running or software center
[11:56] <BluesKaj> bl4ckdu5t, ^
[11:56] <bl4ckdu5t> flipper88_fl: I got the same error for that
[11:56] <bl4ckdu5t> even apt-get upgrade didn't give any better results
[11:57] <umpalumpa> clue_h: 1) i just found out everything is ok. the folder is called 2013-08-28 and belongs to root, but the acutal backup of it is called tree and is a subfolder of 2013-08-28, and it belongs to me
[11:57] <umpalumpa> of it = my data = my home dir
[11:57] <clue_h> umpalumpa, good, for a moment there i thought you may have had to chown some directories
[11:58] <umpalumpa> clue_h: changing permissions is always trouble some, expecially if you have mixed permissions on files
[11:58] <Ari-Yang> bl4ckdu5t, according to this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986288 run sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf  and sudo apt-get update right after
[11:58] <clue_h> umpalumpa, agreed
[11:58] <legend321> Hi there, i tried every tweak but the hissing, crackling sound is not going away whenever i play anything. Now should i uninstall pulseaudio and install alsamixer?
[11:58] <legend321> Is it safe?
[11:58] <lenzeor> How do I remove unity without bricking my gnome 3.8 install?
[11:59] <umpalumpa> clue_h: but all is well now - i can recommed dirvish again :D - it's surprises me that it is so unknow. hard to find on google or even on ubuntu pages. it never gets listed with other backup tools.
[11:59] <umpalumpa> *unknown
[11:59] <clue_h> umpalumpa, i think i've seen it mentioned way back when lol
[12:00] <umpalumpa> but it is one of the few that can do backup expiration and reasonable management of backups - exactly what a tech savy person needs - more than rsync and less than the fully blown enterprise solution ala backula at al
[12:00] <umpalumpa> *et al
[12:00] <Sicno> also the weird thing about Lili is that it doesn't seem to auto-detect any of the isos I got from the official ubuntu site (12.04 LTS and 13.04, 32 and 64 bit), applies the settings for 13.04 (yes, it doesn't auto-detect 13.04 but it applies it as the default setting...) and the list of servers to download the versions that it says it supports is obsolete
[12:00] <umpalumpa> and all it takes is two config file with about 5 lines of acutal code... </advertisement for drivish>
[12:01] <madmouser1> hi all, any ideas or guidance on how to get the special function keys (Play, pause, rewind, forward) working on a Asus N56V laptop with Ubuntu 13.04
[12:01] <umpalumpa> :)
[12:01] <karamba> ff
[12:01] <clue_h> umpalumpa, i'll give it a look in future then :]
[12:01] <lenzeor> Sicno, none of those tools are really good. unetbootin is the leat shitty
[12:01] <madmouser1> it just stopped working after one kernel update :-(
[12:01] <Sicno> I'll try it now
[12:01] <umpalumpa> clue_h: do that! if you want i pm you the tutorals that helped me most - documentation is a bit hard to find...
[12:02] <sparklr> I've 8 ruby rack app servers running on port 3000-3007, how do I port forward in round robin from port 80 to each of them?
[12:02] <christos_> Build Instructions:
[12:02] <christos_> [12:02] <christos_> 1> $tar -xvzf DPB_RT2870_Linux_STA_x.x.x.x.tgz
[12:02] <christos_>     go to "./DPB_RT2870_Linux_STA_x.x.x.x" directory.
[12:02] <FloodBot1> christos_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:02] <christos_> what can do with this
[12:02] <christos_> ok
[12:02] <christos_> but what can i do with this
[12:02] <christos_> only xxxx?
[12:02] <umpalumpa> 3 Floodbots?!
[12:02] <clue_h> thank you
[12:03] <umpalumpa> it's like a whole police station going after a hippie protester XD
[12:04] <clue_h> they are definitely on the ball ha
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> umpalumpa: why not?
[12:09] <lenzeor> How do I remove unity without bricking my gnome 3.8 install?
[12:11] <christos_> anyone i want help chat plsss
[12:11] <christos_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036374/
[12:11] <christos_> or just see this
[12:12] <auronandace> !checkinstall | christos_
[12:12] <wildon> how cn i use blender
[12:13] <auronandace> !bcm | christos_
[12:14] <TechHysteria> wine app help? i don't understand how to work it
[12:14] <auronandace> !appdb | TechHysteria
[12:14] <umpalumpa> ActionParsnip: but all the flowers, and love and songs at the campfire...
[12:15] <umpalumpa> wildon: there are tutorials for that
[12:15] <christos_> pffff
[12:15] <christos_> one one
[12:15] <christos_> oone by one
[12:15] <TechHysteria> i just installed this alongside my windows setup, and so far this is pretty cool
[12:15] <umpalumpa> wildon: you want to know how to install it or how to use it?
[12:15] <wildon> can't seem to get them
[12:16] <umpalumpa> wildon: the tutorials?
[12:16] <wildon> i want to know how to use it to draw houses
[12:17] <umpalumpa> wildon: your drawing - will it be a technical drawing, or artistic? blender is for 3D modelling, not drawing
[12:18] <umpalumpa> Oo
[12:18] <umpalumpa> ok
[12:18] <TechHysteria> anyone installed this as a replacement for windows?
[12:18] <Sicno> lenzeor: I'm wondering why many options appear twice in unetbootin's boot menu
[12:19] <auronandace> TechHysteria: plenty of people
[12:19] <Sicno> aaaaaand same result, kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt
[12:20] <Sicno> it seems for some reason a live session of ubuntu won't boot at all in that computer
[12:21] <Sicno> I'm running out of ideas
[12:22] <holstein> Sicno: confirm the md5 sum of the downloaded iso.. try remaking the boot stick.. try the boot stick on another machine.. try nomodeset
[12:22] <rypervenche> TechHysteria: I haven't used Windows is over 4 or 5 years. I don't consider it a replacement for Windows. Linux can do so much that Windows can't.
[12:22] <Sicno> the stick works on my own machine, it just doesn't work on the all-in-one machine
[12:23] <Sicno> I remade the boot stick countless times already
[12:23] <holstein> Sicno: and, its not guaranteed to, since the vendor likely didnt promise you linux/ubuntu support
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Sicno, all in one ?
[12:23] <Sicno> an HP all-in-one machine
[12:23] <holstein> Sicno: i usually try other live versions.. 12.04, 13.04.. etc
[12:23] <christos_> I CANT UNDERSTUDDDDD
[12:23] <christos_> WHAT I HAVE TO DOOO
[12:23] <FloodBot1> christos_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:24] <Sicno> HP All-in-One 200-5030la
[12:24] <auronandace> christos_: step one: explain your prolem here
[12:24] <umpalumpa> auronandace: he wants to knwo what this does http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036374/
[12:24] <christos_> i said that i have bought a usb sifi
[12:24] <christos_> usb wifi
[12:24] <christos_> and i dont know how can i install it
[12:24] <christos_> i have the read me and others files but i dont know how
[12:25] <umpalumpa> christos_: do you know what a terminal aka command line is?
[12:25] <holstein> christos_: you would go to the creator of the packages you are trying to install
[12:25] <holstein> christos_: otherwise, you need to share more details.. what *exactly* are you installing.. why, and where did you get it
[12:25] <umpalumpa> christos_: all it tells you is to unpack the zip file and then go into the unpacked data
[12:26] <umpalumpa> christos_: how familiar are you with command line and termina?
[12:26] <umpalumpa> *terminal?
[12:26] <christos_> not so much
[12:26] <christos_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036374/
[12:26] <christos_> this are the start of instructions
[12:27] <dmbQs> Looking at using rdiff-backup, but want to rotate external drives off-site. Does anyone know if that works with rdiff-backu?
[12:27] <christos_> its from read me do you want all read me?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> !EFI | Sicno
[12:27] <holstein> christos_: you can pastebin whatever you like
[12:27] <Sicno> thanks, I'll try that
[12:27] <holstein> christos_: start with "i have this hardware and im running this operating system and im trying to do x"
[12:27] <umpalumpa> christos_: ok, what you have to do is to open a terminal - can you do that?
[12:28] <christos_> yes i am trying with terminal up to 3o min
[12:28] <umpalumpa> christos_: enter the following command:
[12:29] <umpalumpa> christos_: cd ~/Downloads && ls -al | grep STA
[12:29] <christos_> yes
[12:29] <umpalumpa> christos_: does it give you any feedback?
[12:30] <christos_> yes
[12:30] <umpalumpa> good
[12:30] <christos_> its going to
[12:30] <enbergj> how can I stop sudo from sending email in case of issues? google said "Defaults mail_always=off" and same for mail_badpass, mail_no_user, mail_no_host, mail_no_perms, but sudo disagrees and says they do not take a value
[12:30] <umpalumpa> now ehter this command:
[12:30] <christos_> downloads $
[12:30] <umpalumpa> *enter
[12:30] <christos_> btw i have download another package that they want it but ok
[12:30] <christos_> say me
[12:30] <umpalumpa> tar -xvzf DPB_RT2870_Linux_STA_x.x.x.x.tgz
[12:30] <TechHysteria> can u increase font size in smuxi?
[12:31] <umpalumpa> i am assuming that you downloaded the file to Downloads, aye
[12:31] <umpalumpa> christos_: are you german?
[12:31] <christos_> no greek
[12:31] <umpalumpa> ah ok
[12:32] <umpalumpa> so, is my last command doing something?
[12:33] <christos_> tar (child): DPB_RT2870_Linux_STA_x.x.x.x.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[12:33] <christos_> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:33] <christos_> tar: Child returned status 2
[12:33] <christos_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:34] <umpalumpa> christos_: ok, no problem
[12:34] <auronandace> christos_: tab complete the filename
[12:34] <umpalumpa> christos_: where did you save that file? i mean DPB_RT2870_Linux_STA_x.
[12:34] <christos_> sorry
[12:34] <christos_> ?
[12:35] <christos_> on my dekstop
[12:35] <umpalumpa> ah!
[12:36] <umpalumpa> christos_: ok, from how on, whenever you see a $ at the beginning of line, it is a command for the terminal, ok?
[12:36] <christos_> ok
[12:36] <christos_> i know it;p
[12:37] <umpalumpa> christos_: you could do it probably faster with some clicks, but by terminal i know what you are doing and we get better error messages
[12:37] <umpalumpa> $ cd ~/Desktop
[12:37] <umpalumpa> $ ls -al *STA*
[12:37] <umpalumpa> christos_: please give me the output of the last command
[12:37] <christos_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036467/
[12:38] <christos_> all the read me
[12:38] <christos_> tar (child): DPB_RT2870_Linux_STA_x.x.x.x.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[12:38] <christos_> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:38] <umpalumpa> very good
[12:38] <christos_> tar: Child returned status 2
[12:38] <christos_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:38] <umpalumpa> christos_: i think it is because of the x.x.x.x
[12:38] <umpalumpa> $ ls -al *STA*
[12:38] <christos_> yeah me 2
[12:39] <christos_> what can i do for those xx
[12:39] <Pici> !tab
[12:39] <christos_> i have to write something there?
[12:39] <umpalumpa> christos_: use tab completition
[12:39] <umpalumpa> christos_: start typing the name, the first few letters, and then press tab key
[12:39] <umpalumpa> christos_: it will give you the correct name then
[12:39] <christos_> christos_: ok
[12:39] <christos_> umpalumpa: ok
[12:39] <umpalumpa> $tar -xvzf DPB_<press tab key>
[12:40] <lenzeor> How do I remove unity without bricking my gnome 3.8 install?
[12:40] <auronandace> lenzeor: no need to remove unity, just simply don't use it
[12:42] <christos_> umpalumpa: and now
[12:42] <umpalumpa> $ cd DPB_ <tab key>
[12:42] <holstein> christos_: if this is for an STA driver for a broadcom device, you can install a package from the repos
[12:42] <holstein> !broadcom
[12:43] <christos_> holstein: and from where and how
[12:43] <BluesKaj> holstein, it's not broadcom
[12:44] <BluesKaj> holstein, it's ralink STA
[12:44] <umpalumpa> This is a linux device driver for Ralink RT2870 USB ABGN WLAN Card.
[12:44] <umpalumpa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036467/
[12:44] <christos_> yes i know it;p
[12:44] <christos_> umpalumpa: this i have in readme
[12:44] <umpalumpa> christos_: well, they are discussing it so i gave them the link
[12:45] <quick> h
[12:45] <lenzeor> auronandace, but it takes up my disk space and every update takes a lot longer -.-
[12:45] <umpalumpa> christos_: they probably have a better way than what we are doing - less command line ;)
[12:45] <christos_> umpalumpa: say me
[12:45] <auronandace> umpalumpa: just so you are aware: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsVarious#USB
[12:47] <auronandace> lenzeor: gnome 3.8 isn't supported here yet so removing unity may or may not affect your ppa
[12:47] <christos_> umpalumpa: what is this
[12:47] <umpalumpa> christos_: is that a usb wifi card?
[12:47] <Sicno> it seems I won't be able to try a live session so I'll have to instal right away
[12:47] <Sicno> install*
[12:47] <umpalumpa> auronandace: thx for the headsup
[12:48] <lenzeor> auronandace, OK I understand
[12:48] <christos_> umpalumpa: mine is a usb wifi
[12:48] <auronandace> lenzeor: if you need help with the ppa then you'd need to contact the ppa maintainer
[12:48] <umpalumpa> christos_: ok - that website says it should work out of the box - so no command line stuff needed
[12:48] <pro> hello, i'm using dell vostro laptop which has two graphic cards, one that is more powerful and takes more power and one integrated(?), how can i choose which one i use
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Sicno, did you see the post about EFI /BIOS
[12:49] <umpalumpa> pro: tried BIOS/UEFI ?
[12:49] <christos_> umpalumpa: and what i have to do now
[12:49] <pro> no, do i really have to set it from bios
[12:50] <pro> atleast ati drivers had simple system to change it
[12:50] <umpalumpa> christos_: we have to figure out what the exact problem is - but it looks like you don't have to install the driver. it should be already on the system. all you need to do is to activate it. are you using "normal" ubuntu?
[12:50] <Sicno> BluesKaj: yes, and I read about it yesterday too, but from what I've seen it seems to be something windows 8 related, I have yet to see any post about it on windows 7 and how to deal with it
[12:50] <user0404440> I am trying to install Ubuntu Server onto a laptop but both ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso and ubuntu-12.04.2-server-amd64.iso do not work. The problem is that some file on the live USB that I have created using Unetbootin do not pass the integrity check. ubuntu-12.04.1-server-amd64.iso does work.
[12:50] <umpalumpa> christos_: i mean unity?
[12:50] <christos_> umpalumpa: 12.04 lts
[12:51] <user0404440> I am confident that there were no write errors during the creation of the live USB.
[12:51] <umpalumpa> christos_: ok
[12:51] <owlbread> user0404440: have you checked the MD5 checksum of the .iso file you used?
[12:51] <user0404440> Yes.
[12:52] <user0404440> It's fine.
[12:52] <christos_> umpalumpa:  and now i cant use the wifi usb
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Sicno, it's more than just W8 it's a replacement for your BIOS , so installing ubuntu needs the EFI mode as described in the post/url
[12:52] <owlbread> and is it during booting the USB that the errors are shown?
[12:53] <umpalumpa> christos_: can you see if you have a programm with the name jockey in it?
[12:53] <christos_> umpalumpa:  its all white;/
[12:54] <user0404440> owlbread: No, it is during the installation procedure and during the "check integrity of disc" procedure.
[12:54] <Sicno> BluesKaj: but that's the thing, the post talks about installing ubuntu in EFI mode but I don't want to install it yet, what I'm trying to do is try ubuntu from the usb drive to test if it works and only then I'll try to install it
[12:54] <Guest4243> hai
[12:55] <dmbQs> anyone know if rdiff-backup supports rotated external target drives?
[12:55] <owlbread> oh! do any other distros work at all?
[12:55] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: may i recommend you to use dervish?
[12:55] <user0404440> 12.04.1 works. 13.04 worked when I installed it half a year or so ago.
[12:55] <dmbQs> umpalumpa: you may. What's the advantage?
[12:55] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: i just sat down yesterday and researched that stuff to finally get backups done
[12:55] <user0404440> It is only with 12.04.2 and 12.04.3 that I have these problems.
[12:55] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: it's awesome
[12:56] <user0404440> I'm using Unetbootin 5.85 on Debian Testing to create the live USB.
[12:56] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: no the main point is: it will do expiration of backups, it is quite smart (differntial backups), you can search for different version of a file in all your backups, and it allwos backup via network (ssh secured)
[12:56] <dmbQs> umpalumpa: rdiff- looks pretty slick too. what's the difference?
[12:57] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: i'd say it's a notch better than rdiff
[12:57] <natherul> Hey all, is there any way to change so when you type (in terminal) "sudo apt-get update" that all the information (including download and install) is returned in the terminal instead of in a separate window?
[12:57] <christos_> umpalumpa:  now?
[12:57] <dmbQs> umpalumpa: I think rdiff can do all that. But, can it handle rotated backups?
[12:57] <umpalumpa> christos_: do you have the jockey program?
[12:57] <user0404440> natherul: That should be the default behavior, I think.
[12:57] <dmbQs> umpalumpa: I don't need network backup at all. Just backups to attached externals of which all but one will be stored of-site and rotated.
[12:58] <dmbQs> and incremntals, of course. with simple restore in case of a problem
[12:58] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: yes
[12:58] <umpalumpa> Dirvish is a fast, disk based, rotating network backup system.
[12:58] <user0404440> natherul: Though I'm not currently using Ubuntu.
[12:58] <umpalumpa> http://www.dirvish.org/
[12:58] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: don'
[12:58] <natherul> user8484448: nope, typing it into terminal shows me it connecting to the diff servers and then its done and pop a window up for me with any info if something needs updating
[12:58] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: don't get fooled by the simple website
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Sicno, don't think you can run ubuntu in live media/usb with EFI , correct me if I'm wrong .
[12:59] <JKING> hi
[13:00] <user0404440> natherul: Have you tried "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[13:00] <christos_> umpalumpa:  the kde or gtk
[13:00] <umpalumpa> christos_: gtk
[13:00] <christos_> umpalumpa:  yes
[13:00] <umpalumpa> christos_: ok, run it
[13:00] <dmbQs> umpalumpa: I'll have to look at it more. Looks like it's primarily for network backup. what makes it better than rdiff?
[13:01] <natherul> user9494449: nope I did not, but why would that change the behaviour?
[13:01] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: it does local backups too - if it notices it does local bacup, it won'T use ssh any mrore.... it will just rsync (with some sugar) the data from one disk to an other
[13:01] <Sicno> BluesKaj: ok, I'll try installing right away
[13:01] <user0404440> Because "apt-get update" fetches the new package lists (so your system knows what packages *can* be updated to their latest versions) and "apt-get upgrade" actually upgrades those packages to the latest version.
[13:02] <dmbQs> umpalumpa: i'll read up.
[13:02] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: i don't know all the differences, but for me the main selling point is, that you have better control of letting your backups expire
[13:03] <christos_> umpalumpa: nothingg
[13:03] <natherul> user8484448: ah ok :P used to fedora now and before when I left ubuntu just doing an update showed me in plain text what needed updating and asking if that was ok or not.... and since I love terminals and dont like windows.... :D
[13:03] <umpalumpa> dmbQs: i don't think the difference will be all too big - in the end it might boil down to a matter of taste
[13:03] <user0404440> natherul: I think what is happening is that you only update the list in the terminal. Your graphic update manager is then somehow triggered by this and pops up, prompting you to upgrade some packages.
[13:03] <umpalumpa> christos_: what noting? it does not start?
[13:03] <christos_> umpalumpa: cant find anything
[13:03] <umpalumpa> ok
[13:03] <dmbQs> umpalumpa: Thanks. I'm reading about it. for now I still need to know if rdiff supports rotated externals
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Sicno, you can try running if you run as "secure boot"
[13:04] <Sicno> but I didn't see such an option on the bios
[13:05] <BluesKaj> ok , try secure boot off , if possible , Sicno
[13:05] <Sicno> that's the thing: there's no such thing as a secure option setting
[13:05] <user0404440> natherul: Has my suggestion fixed your problem?
[13:06] <umpalumpa> christos_:
[13:06] <umpalumpa> $sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Sicno, hmm, keep looking , it has to be there
[13:06] <natherul> user8484448: I just tried it and I dont know since no updates are available at the moment but it seems to be working..... at least better :D thanks
[13:07] <BluesKaj> !secure-boot
[13:07] <christos_> umpalumpa: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[13:07] <christos_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[13:07] <Sicno> since it's an all-in-one machine that was meant to run under specific hardware with windows pre-installed and even an option to re-install windows from the boot screen there are minimal options on the bios
[13:07] <BluesKaj> christos_, close your package manager , software sources
[13:08] <umpalumpa> christos_: ok, close the package amanger
[13:08] <umpalumpa> christos_: you are not allowed to acces your package configuration with to programs at the same time, because that can create a lot of mess
[13:09] <umpalumpa> christos_: after you closed the package manager try the comand again
[13:09] <christos_> agai
[13:09] <Sicno> it's as if it was meant as an (old) console pc: "buy it like this, keep it like this forever"
[13:09] <christos_> umpalumpa:  againn
[13:09] <john_doe_jr1> any idea why my history command isn't working?
[13:09] <umpalumpa>  $sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:09] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: like, the arrow up?
[13:10] <john_doe_jr1> umpalumpa: what is that?
[13:10] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: a guess :P
[13:10] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: i thought you meant realling commands from your bash history
[13:10] <umpalumpa> *recalling
[13:10] <john_doe_jr1> umpalumpa: yes and I'm not getting any autocomplete in bash …you know when you press tab
[13:11] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: ah ok, so we're on the same page :)
[13:11] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: do you have a .bash_history?
[13:13] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: also what does echo $SHELL give you?
[13:13] <john_doe_jr1> umpalumpa: yes I do have a bash_history file
[13:13] <john_doe_jr1> umpalumpa: it says /bin/sh
[13:14] <umpalumpa> well, you want /bin/bash ;)
[13:14] <john_doe_jr1> umpalumpa: how do I do that...?
[13:14] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: use chsh
[13:14] <umpalumpa> "change shell" ;)
[13:14] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: you'll probly have to re-login or something like that.
[13:15] <john_doe_jr1> umpalumpa: awesome…that was the problem
[13:15] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: you can pay me in cookies now
[13:15] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: you're welcome :)
[13:16] <john_doe_jr1> umpalumpa: one chocolate chip byte
[13:16] <john_doe_jr1> umpalumpa: will that always default to bash shell now?
[13:16] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: guess so... don't know... try?
[13:17] <umpalumpa> christos_: how are things going on?
[13:17] <scribblebot> I want to get involved with development for a linux distro. What's the best way to do this?
[13:17] <john_doe_jr1> umpalumpa: how do I read my shell variables?
[13:19] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: don't know :(
[13:20] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: usually echo $VARIABLE
[13:20] <john_doe_jr1> umpalumpa: sorry that was a dumb question
[13:21] <umpalumpa> john_doe_jr1: well... dumb question double my cookie count :P
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Sicno, odd thing is HP does offer the all-in-one with Ubuntu installed
[13:23] <usr13> !develop | scribblebot
[13:25] <usr13> scribblebot: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/305998-best-practices-for-contributors-getting-started-with-linux-distro-development
[13:30] <pittler> how do i start
[13:30] <Sicno> BluesKaj: yeah, but I'm guessing there may be some factory setting involved
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Sicno, does this pc have a cdrom ?
[13:32] <Sicno> you mean a reader? yes
[13:32] <BluesKaj> cd installs are less prone to errors than usb , Sicno
[13:32] <pittler> where is the start menu
[13:33] <Sicno> tried a disc I burned months ago but it wasn't being recognized at all by the drive, my guess is that it was recorded at a higher speed than what it can read (24x)
[13:33] <cfhowlett> Sicno, always use the slow burn
[13:33] <Sicno> and currently my dvd writer is faulty
[13:34] <pittler> it won't let me install norton anti virus
[13:34] <Ari-Yang> pittler, why the heck would you install norton????
[13:34] <Ari-Yang> .__________.
[13:35] <pittler> i bought a 5 year subscription
[13:35] <Ari-Yang> pittler, well, that's a shame, I pity that purchase. Anyways are you trying to install norton on ubuntu?
[13:35] <Sicno> wait, nvm  o_O the unit does read it, but for some reason it refused to read it at boot, while it did read an oooold disc from canonical
[13:36] <Ari-Yang> pittler, I suggest you just ditch norton...
[13:37] <Ari-Yang> !antivirus | pittler
[13:40] <xubuntu_> i didnt even know that there is norton for linux
[13:40] <usr13> pittler: Virus problems and anti-virus applications we leave behind when we leave  MS Windows for Linux.  Life is good! :)
[13:40] <pittler> and what about my adobe creative suit 6
[13:40] <duoi> hi guys. how do i open a second instance of an already open application?
[13:40]  * Slart thinks this attitude will come back and bite linux-users everywhere.. sooner or later =/
[13:40] <pittler> that cost A LOT
[13:41] <usr13> pittler: There are other tools we can use.
[13:41] <cfhowlett> pittler, ubuntustudio
[13:41] <cfhowlett> pittler, hey had you NOT spent the money on CS6, you could use ubuntustudio (free) and buy a new laptop!
[13:42] <Slart> pittler: you can check if you can run it using wine.. I doubt there is a native version for linux
[13:43] <pittler> man this OS was not worth the money
[13:43] <usr13> pittler: haha  :)
[13:43] <usr13> pittler: Yea, it is priceless!
[13:43] <cfhowlett> pittler, and now you know.  don't feel too bad.  There are still plenty of people here in China running XP ...
[13:43] <RAHUL_CH> hi...............
[13:44] <RAHUL_CH> I want to install UBUNTU
[13:44] <RAHUL_CH> in my D drive....
[13:44] <pittler> don't do it man
[13:44] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: Go for it!
[13:44] <Sicno> well, to be honest I would still be running XP if it wasn't for directx
[13:44] <usr13> pittler: How long have you been using Ubuntu or any distro?
[13:44] <pittler> 5 minutes
[13:45] <RAHUL_CH> I M USING WIN 7 IN C SO I WANT TO CLEAN INSTALL OF UBUNTU IN D.DRIVE...
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !shout|RAHUL_CH,
[13:45] <usr13> pittler: Well, one thing is for sure, it is way different.
[13:45] <fidel> its like learning to walk in 5 minutes ;)
[13:45] <pittler> pft at least walking is useful
[13:45] <cfhowlett> RAHUL_CH, so do it then.  use the manual options.
[13:45] <Sicno> it's the excuse to leave the windows version you're comfortable with for something you don't like that much
[13:45] <xubuntu_> pittler go back to windows and stop talking shit
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[13:46] <RAHUL_CH> thnks
[13:46] <fidel> RAHUL_CH: most linux installers will need free space on at least 1 physical disk
[13:46] <cfhowlett> pittler, you're free to use ubuntu or not.  your choice.
[13:46] <usr13> pittler: Some of the most useless things are the most importand and fun.
[13:46] <fidel> so prepare some free space before you start booting from a live/install medium
[13:46] <Ari-Yang> pittler, I'm still confused about your feelings, do you or do you not like ubuntu?
[13:46] <usr13> pittler: Prepare to be amazed.
[13:46] <imanc> hey, I'm running ubuntu 12.10 and unity and finding that often if I click a program icon it doesn't always transport me to the correct workspace
[13:46] <user0404440> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 13.04 on a laptop. I am using ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso. The md5 sum of that .iso file is correct. I have written it to a USB stick using Unetbootin 5.85 on Debian Testing. No problems were reported. The USB flash drive was properly ejected. The installer launches just fine, but when I do "check integrity of disk", I get the following error: "The ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/pxelinux.c
[13:47] <usr13> Ari-Yang: Five minutes into it,  he is obviously confused / undecided.
[13:47] <RAHUL_CH> whther i need 1 more parition for swapping..???i mean 1 drive..
[13:47] <pittler> i'm already amazed
[13:47] <Ari-Yang> :K
[13:47] <pittler> at how screwed i got by installing this
[13:47] <pittler> hehehe
[13:47] <cfhowlett> pittler, you're not happy.  we get it.  go fix it and be happy.
[13:47] <Ari-Yang> pittler, you should have done your research and make sure all of your Windows programs are available on ubuntu.
[13:48] <user0404440> ^
[13:48] <Ben64> pittler: if you have a support question, ask it. this is not the place for rants
  i didnt get u..i m having d drive of approx 48 gb..
[13:48] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: I recommend a partition for swap the same size as your RAM, or little bigger, another for /
[13:48] <pittler> but it said on the box that it can do everything windows can
[13:48] <Ari-Yang> it is utterly stupid to jump into installing a new OS without doing research, pittler.
[13:48] <RAHUL_CH> 3 gb ram
[13:48] <Ari-Yang> pittler...............you're going buy a box
[13:48] <pittler> which is obviously a lie
[13:48] <Ari-Yang> L E L
[13:48] <cfhowlett> pittler, box?  what box?  dude.  you're trolling.
[13:48] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: If you want to, you can make /  about 30G and the rest for /home/  (it is convenient later on if you have a separate partition for /home/)
[13:48] <pittler> no it came in a box from the guy who sold it
[13:49] <Ben64> oh ok, so pittler is a troll
[13:49] <cfhowlett> pittler, you *bought* a free OS?
[13:49] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: 3G of RAM, I'd make swap 3 or 4G
[13:49] <user0404440> pittler: Pics or it didn't happen.
[13:49] <Ari-Yang> pittler, you can download ubuntu for free....
[13:49] <cfhowlett> pittler, yeah, I'm pretty sure nothing we can do to help you.
[13:49] <Ari-Yang> pittler, again, you should have done your research. You kinda fail.
[13:49] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: (You may add RAM later on, who knows...)
[13:50] <usr13> pittler: What can't it do?
[13:50] <RAHUL_CH> I m asking whther i need to use 1 more partion for swapping..
[13:50] <Ari-Yang> pittler, just re-install Windows (and your crap antivirus norton(lol))
[13:50] <pittler> what research? i'm not a scientist
[13:50] <Ari-Yang> pittler, yeah cuz you know it takes a scientist to google information about an OS.
[13:50] <Ari-Yang> :|
[13:50] <Slart> user0404440: seems it exists after all.. amazing http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Linux-Complete-Edition-8-04/dp/B0018KAN9E
[13:50] <pittler> wow guys you are prety hostile towards noobies
[13:50] <RAHUL_CH> already i used 1 yr back for ubuntu swapping bt dat was 10 gb for swapping it was corrupted after foramtting.
[13:51] <usr13> pittler: You have been using it for a very short time and suddenly, you know all it can and can not do?  (I've been using it a *long* time and still discover capabilities I didn't know about.)
[13:51] <Ari-Yang> pittler, not at all, I just find your situation hilarious :I
[13:51] <Slart> pittler: this is a support channel, for answering support questions.. at the moment you're not really asking questions... ranting is better done in #ubuntun-offtopic
[13:51] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: One partition for swap
[13:52] <pittler> hmm ok I have a question
[13:52] <cfhowlett> pittler, some people are meant for windows.  embrace your destiny.  You could have already reinstalled your windows, but you're still here moaning and crying.  I smell trollbait
[13:52]  * cfhowlett ... here it comes
[13:52] <RAHUL_CH> for 10 gb is enough!!!!
[13:52] <user0404440> pittler: Go ahead and ask.
[13:52] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: enough for what?
[13:53] <RAHUL_CH> swapping..
[13:53] <pittler> why are you answering non-support things but then turn around and complain that the asker is not asking support related things
[13:53] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: If you have 3G of RAM, 3G of swap is enough.
[13:54] <RAHUL_CH> ohhhh...got it...
[13:54] <Ari-Yang> pittler, your question is not technical support related, therefore I will not answer (`-`)
[13:54] <pittler> but you just did didn't you
[13:54] <cfhowlett> pittler, why are you still here again?
[13:54] <Ari-Yang> I didn't answer your specific question, pittler.
[13:54] <Slart> pittler: we make mistakes as well... we're all just regular ubuntu-users
[13:54] <Ben64> stop feeding the trolls, sheesh
[13:54] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic > pittler
[13:55] <usr13> pittler: The topic for the channel is Ubuntu support.  The norm is that  ask/answer  questions about Ubuntu.
[13:55] <pittler> I was doing that, but then you started harrassing me for not being a genius and instantly knowing everything about ubuntu
[13:55] <wfdnwork> hi, my wi-fi doesnt connect in some places,what could be the problem?
[13:55] <RAHUL_CH> what i need to do for selction of OS..
[13:55] <Ari-Yang> pittler, lets start over.
[13:56] <pittler> no im afraid it's too late
[13:56] <RAHUL_CH> for selectin of particular os win or linux..
[13:56] <Ari-Yang> pittler, then leave?
[13:56] <usr13> pittler: Maybe I missed it but did not see anyone harrassing you. (And the channel topic not about advocacy or lack thereof.)
[13:56] <Ari-Yang> re-install windows etc. good luck
[13:56] <pittler> you already have shattered my hopes for being part of ubuntu community
[13:56] <gordonjcp> pittler: what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:56] <kengot> Can anyone help me with a question about a 10.04 LTS boot problem?
[13:56] <fidel> RAHUL_CH: ubuntu should detect windows and add a boot-amanger (called grub)
[13:56] <user0404440> wfdnwork: Can you further specific "does not connect"? Does the network you want to connect to show up? Does it try to connect? What is the error?
[13:56] <fidel> kengot: give it a try
[13:56]  * cfhowlett ... and that will haunt me forever, I'm sure
[13:57] <RAHUL_CH> ohhhh  thnks alot...
[13:57] <gordonjcp> !ask | kengot
[13:57] <cfhowlett> kengot, desktop or server?
[13:57] <wfdnwork> user0404440: yes, it show up, but after trying to connect, it simply doesnt connect and try to connect in other place
[13:57] <usr13> pittler: You may be confusing criticism with harassment.  It is normal for us to criticize each other here. When I say something wrong, I expect to be correct, I *want* to be corrected, we all do.
[13:58] <wfdnwork> user0404440: sometimes it ask the password again, but i'm sure it is right
[13:58] <juniorsa> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 12.04 and instead of apache2 I decided to try nginx - I'm getting connect() to unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock failed (111: Connection refused) after installing php5 - any suggestions?
[13:58] <pittler> usr13 i think oyu are confuing extreme personal abuse with criticism
[13:58] <user0404440> wfdnwork: How good is the quality of the signal?
[13:59] <Ari-Yang> pittler, this is kind of offtopic ;/
[13:59] <user0404440> wfdnwork: e.g. how many of the bars in the wifi icon are filled?
[13:59] <gordonjcp> juniorsa: the way that nginx deals with PHP isn't totally like Apache, and you need to read up on how php5-fpm works with it
[13:59] <kengot> fidel: OK I keep getting this message when I boot up: "[1.305159] kernel panic - not syncing; VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown - block (0.0)"
[13:59] <wfdnwork> user0404440: 4 bars, the max, i think
[13:59] <Ari-Yang> pittler, again, this is a support channel. If you aren't going to stick with ubuntu, then you're just wasting your time here.
[13:59] <juniorsa> gordonjcp: but the default apt-get doesn't work is that normal
[13:59] <pittler> well I think that's fairly obvious
[13:59] <gordonjcp> juniorsa: there's a bit of configuration to do first
[14:00] <pittler> are you going to ban me?
[14:00] <Ari-Yang> no
[14:00] <pittler> that would be cherry on top
[14:00] <kengot> laptop
[14:00] <Ari-Yang> pittler, I'm sure you can leave yourself ^__^
[14:00] <juniorsa> I followed the http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-nginx-with-php5-and-php-fpm-and-mysql-support-lemp-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts but I still get this perms error
[14:00] <Ben64> pittler: why not just leave instead of spamming the channel with nonsense?
[14:00] <user0404440> wfdnwork: Have you tried restarting your laptop?
[14:00] <user0404440> (assuming it's a laptop)
[14:00] <Ari-Yang> pittler, good luck with your Windows re-install and what not (^_________________^)/
[14:00] <kengot> Toshiba L355
[14:00] <pittler> ok i get it
[14:01] <pittler> well it has been an interesting experience
[14:01] <fidel> °details kengot
[14:01] <fidel> !details kengot
[14:01] <pittler> I wish you all the very best
[14:01] <wfdnwork> user0404440: yes, i'm trying to connect at this network in weeks, i'm using this network now  but using wired connection
[14:01] <fidel> kengot: is that a fresh setup or something else?
[14:01] <Ari-Yang> pittler, you too
[14:01] <wfdnwork> user0404440: but sometimes there is no wire available
[14:01] <pittler> and hope you will find it in you to treat the next guy better
[14:02] <pittler> even if he is as stupid as me
[14:02] <user0404440> wfdnwork: Is there anything special about the network?
[14:02] <kengot> been running it along side of Mate 15 for a couple months
[14:02] <Ari-Yang> pittler, so far all of these guys here that came in after you and are getting support are just fine
[14:02] <usr13> pittler: I've been on a number of IRC channles and have seen a lot of criticism, but not sure I'm not so sure about personal abuse, some may take it that way but... well, for instance, I've been called an idiot before and that was because I said something wrong, so I asked the guy why I was an idiot and he told me what I said that was wrong and so in the end, I appreciated the criticism, (even though it came in the form of "personal abuse", but I don't call it
[14:02] <Ari-Yang> :3
[14:02] <pittler> have a nice day
[14:02] <mont> does a raspberry pi chat exist?
[14:02] <Ben64> pittler: nobody treaded you bad, but whatever
[14:02] <Ari-Yang> bye, pittler
[14:02] <Ben64> mont: #raspberrypi
[14:02] <pittler> wow wall of text tl;dr
[14:02] <pittler> god bless you all
[14:02] <Ari-Yang> you too
[14:02] <user0404440> semper fi, brother
[14:02] <mont> thx
[14:03] <wfdnwork> user0404440: its a college network
[14:03] <gordonjcp> pittler: did you have an Ubuntu support question?
[14:03] <user0404440> wfdnwork: Do you have to supply your credentials?
[14:03] <pittler> you can find me on google +, paul pittlerson
[14:03] <sett> wow this is amazing, installed linux and after 1 hour config everything works, thanks ubuntu
[14:03]  * cfhowlett ... d'oh!  
[14:03] <usr13> pittler: God bless you too.
[14:03] <gordonjcp> sett: it's pretty straightforward
[14:03] <pittler> i love you all
[14:04] <pittler> despite you know..
[14:04] <user0404440> wfdnwork: I mean, do you have to supply anything other than a regular wifi password, such as your university credentials? I know this is the case for my university.
[14:04] <Ari-Yang> [09:32:55] <pittler> where is the start menu [09:34:28] <pittler> it won't let me install norton anti virus ---> gordonjcp
[14:04] <sett> gordonjcp, ye spent 20 hours before trying to install something else :)
[14:04] <xubuntu_> you are using vpn?
[14:04] <god__363> hello
[14:04] <xubuntu_> are you*
[14:04] <Ben64> pittler: just leave, or ask an actual support question, for the love of god
[14:04] <Ari-Yang> Ben64, he's just butt-hurt and wants a ban ;|
[14:05] <pittler> well since _you_ brought up the topic of the love of god
[14:05] <Ben64> no
[14:05] <Pici> Move on.
[14:05] <pittler> i have a few things to say about that
[14:05] <kengot> fidel: seems to run ok most of the time but lately it's been freezing up and then on reboot grib goes straight to Mate and bypasses choice
[14:05]  * Catbuntu awäy
[14:05] <Ben64> pitelpan: stop being offtopic. go to #ubuntu-offtopic or be quiet
[14:05] <duoi> can someone give pittler a friendly kick out of the room
[14:06] <pittler> have you heard about the Lord?
[14:06] <clue_h> The start menu? just press the windows key. I assume you mean something that shows installed programs
[14:06] <pittler> it's very good news
[14:06] <cfhowlett> !smite
[14:06] <fidel> thx
[14:06] <clue_h> I think i answered his question as he was banned lol
[14:07] <Ben64> pretty sure he was a troll anyway
[14:07] <user0404440> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 13.04 on a laptop. I am using ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso. The md5 sum of that .iso file is correct. I have written it to a USB stick using Unetbootin 5.85 on Debian Testing. No problems were reported. The USB flash drive was properly ejected. The installer launches just fine, but when I do "check integrity of disk", I get the following error: "The ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/pxelinux.c
[14:07] <cfhowlett> Ben64, ya think?
[14:07] <duoi> he's trolling his ass off. his google+ page he mentioned has him posting about Mint and a few presentations by Linus T
[14:07] <Pici> Lets move on folks.
[14:07] <fidel> kengot: try t speak to the channel - not only me. so do you get the kernel panic on each boot now?
[14:07] <foofoobar> Hi. Running ubuntu 13.04 on a macbook pro. I have a strange bug when copying files to a fat usb stick. When the copy process comes near the finish (about 10% left), the speed rapidly goes down until it stops and does not finish it
[14:08] <duoi> how can i open a second instance of an already open application?
[14:08] <xubuntu_> user0404440: can you send  the full msg
[14:08] <xubuntu_> user0404440: error msg*
[14:08] <fidel> duoi: i guess that depends on the application - if it allows a second instance at all or not in the first place
[14:08] <user0404440> xubuntu_: I get the following error: "The ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/pxelinux.cfg/default file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted."
[14:08] <usr13> duoi: Depends on what application.
[14:08] <user0404440> xubuntu_: Must have been truncated by the IRC server.
[14:08] <zmbmartin> I just installed ubuntu on my macbook pro. Things seem to be going good so far.
[14:08] <zmbmartin> How can I enable drag lock with my touchpad.
[14:09] <Ari-Yang> !pastebin | user0404440
[14:09] <duoi> fidel usr13 smplayer
[14:09] <kengot> No, but about 50% of the time. Have to force shutdown and try reboot several times to get it anything back up
[14:09] <zmbmartin> I am not using the synaptics driver as far as I can tell.
[14:09] <xubuntu_> user0404440: i think that the iso file has been corrupted. you would need to create  the usb image again
[14:09] <juniorsa> Hi is anyone able to help me to get php5 working with nginx? I'm using 12.04 LTS and I keep getting "connect() to unix:/tmp/php5-fpm.sock failed (13: Permission denied)"
[14:09] <user0404440> xubuntu_: I'm retrying it now on Windows.
[14:09] <xubuntu_> user0404440: after donwloading de ISO from the ubuntu site
[14:09] <user0404440> ;__;
[14:10] <user0404440> The iso file that I downloaded from ubuntu.com is 100% correct. I checked the md5 sum.
[14:10] <usr13> duoi: I suppose you could play two streams, is that your goal?
[14:10] <xubuntu_> user0404440: i suggest you to burn a cd and try it
[14:10] <cfhowlett> user0404440, good.  but the boot usb/cd could still be scrambled.  make another.
[14:10] <kengot> Can I install a new 14.04 kernel over the top of 10.04 and not lose my files?
[14:11] <duoi> usr13: yes
[14:11] <kengot> oops, I mean 11.04 LTS
[14:11] <gordonjcp> juniorsa: have you followed all the instructions for getting nginx and php5-fpm working?
[14:11] <gordonjcp> kengot: 12.04LTS ?
[14:11] <usr13> duoi: You can.
[14:11] <cfhowlett> kengot, no 11.04 LTS.  and 11.04 is end of life
[14:11] <juniorsa> gordonjcp: yes I did from howtoforge
[14:11] <kengot> Yes, sorry
[14:11] <user0404440> wfdnwork: Some options: 1. Contact system administrator or some other person that is knowledgeable about the network. 2. Download the documentation from the college site (my university has such a documentation, which helped me get connected).
[14:12] <wfdnwork> user0404440: no, everyone here connect in the network using only the network password
[14:12] <fidel> kengot: LTS are 10.4 - 12.04 - and 14.04 ... so all 4 releases/2 years
[14:12] <duoi> usr13: any specific way how?
[14:12] <gordonjcp> juniorsa: right, first hit on Google?
[14:12] <juniorsa> gordonjcp: yes
[14:12] <usr13> duoi: mplayer video1.mpg  #In one terminal   mpalyer video2.mpg  #In another, or you can use the "run" command, Alt-F2
[14:12] <juniorsa> gordonjcp: all the suggestions are to switch from socket to tcp is that what you would do?
[14:12] <kengot> yes, I ment 12.04 over 10.4
[14:12] <duoi> usr13 thanks!
[14:12] <usr13> NP
[14:13] <user0404440> wfdnwork: Odd. You could try a live CD from another distro to see if it works.
[14:13] <fidel> kengot: in general - yes you can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[14:13] <cfhowlett> kengot, some reason you don't install 12.04?
[14:13] <kengot> just run the iso disk?
[14:13] <gordonjcp> juniorsa: that's what it recommends in the howtoforge article...
[14:14] <kengot> Was running 12.04 but can't get my Canon MP280 printer to run with it
[14:14] <duoi> one more question! on a multimonitor set up, when running full screen videos from firefox, is there a way to specify which screen it plays on? as of this moment if i go full screen on an external monitor it'd shift it to the main monitor.
[14:14] <juniorsa> gordonjcp: I just went to the nginx channel and they suggested I stay with sockets but I can't get it to work - tcp works
[14:14] <wfdnwork> user0404440: ubuntu live cd have sup to wifi?
[14:14] <wfdnwork> user0404440: support*
[14:15] <XXX> Hi, I'm gonna install Ubuntu on a MacBook. Should I use the alternative iso for Macintosh computers or stick with the 64 bit iso?
[14:15] <XXX> wfdnwork: yeah, if the drivers isn't proprietary
[14:15] <kengot> fidal: terminal command to upgrade?
[14:15] <RAHUL_CH> hello....
[14:15] <usr13> wfdnwork: Yes
[14:15] <RAHUL_CH> user13
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !mac|XXX,
[14:15] <XXX> kengot: apt-get upgrade
[14:16] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: Yes?
[14:16] <kengot> tnx
[14:16] <RAHUL_CH> later on if i need to uninstall ubuntu  wihtout getting harm to win 7 like clean uninstall
[14:16] <RAHUL_CH> wht i need to do..
[14:17] <XXX> cfhowlett: doesnt answer my questio, actually
[14:18] <adamk> duoi: It's going to go fullscreen on which ever monitor is considered primary.  You'd have to change the primary monitor.
[14:18] <wfdnwork> user0404440, XXX : do you know about the open source driver, if it have good compability?
[14:18] <user0404440> wfdnwork: I don't know much about the internals of Wifi on Ubuntu/Linux.
[14:19] <duoi> adamk is there a command to shift the current open window to the next monitor?
[14:19] <XXX> wfdnwork: yeah, it's works perfectly
[14:19] <adamk> duoi: I don't believe so.
[14:19] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: Delete the partitions you created for Ubuntu, expand the MS Windows ones (back to their original size(s) in order to use all of the available space), and then run he MS Windows tool to re-install the MS Windows bootloader.
[14:19] <nettie> hi guys, I'm playng with grub-mkconfig on Precis. It generates a config with "set root=(hd0,msdos1)" when I would like it to generate (hd0,0) instead. I'm doing the best to avoid hand editing files but I was unable to pass the right switch to fix it. I need it to be hd0 becasue pv-grub does not understand msdos1 and update-grub-legacy-ec2 generates the config from grub.conf which is generated by grub-mkconfig. Any idea? thanks.
[14:19] <XXX> if your network card is supported, wfdnwork
[14:20] <user0404440> xubuntu_ cfhowlett: Just tried it with a bootable USB installer created on Windows using Unetbootin 585. The same exact problem showed up.
[14:20] <kengot> fidal: Thanx to you and everyone for the help, peace...
 ohh
[14:20] <cfhowlett> user0404440, this is ubuntu 12.04 or  ... ?
[14:20] <user0404440> wfdnwork: Do you know what brand and model of wifi adapter you have?
[14:20] <wfdnwork> user0404440: sorry, i dont know
[14:21] <RAHUL_CH> i can delete  using parititon wizard  and later on i should merge with some other drive..rit??
[14:21] <user0404440> cfhowlett: ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso
[14:21] <xubuntu_> user0404440: man, i strongly suggest you to burn a cd.
[14:21] <user0404440> wfdnwork: Open a terminal and enter and run: lspci
[14:21] <xubuntu_> user0404440: usb for install doesn't work allways
[14:21] <luciguy> Hello
[14:22] <cfhowlett> user0404440, CD is my suggestion as well.
[14:22] <cfhowlett> luciguy, greetings
[14:22] <luciguy> Is anyone there?
[14:22] <clue_h> yes
[14:22] <cfhowlett> luciguy, *greetings*
[14:22] <XXX> luciguy: yea
[14:23] <user0404440> I feel wasteful for burning something to a CD that I'll only use once, but alright, I'll give it a shot. I should have some writable CDs somewhere.
[14:23] <xubuntu_> user0404440: just one question, have you enable boot from usb, right?
[14:23] <clue_h> user0404440, i've had trouble with usb installs after getting everything ready. the cd option seems to always work
[14:23] <RAHUL_CH> whts ms windows tool and wht i need to reinstall.. i didint get..!!
[14:23] <BluesKaj> user0404440, next time buy some cdrws
[14:23] <xubuntu_> user0404440: in your bios
[14:23] <wfdnwork> user0404440: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036774/
[14:23] <ServerTech> I just installed Luna, but no resolution over 1024x768 is being shown. Using Intel internal graphics adapter, GMA xxx.  How do I get it to support larger resolutions (I know the monitor supports 1280x1024 5:4)
[14:24] <ServerTech> ubuntu 13.04*
[14:24] <cfhowlett> RAHUL_CH, for help with windows install ask ##windows
[14:24] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: I said it in the reverse order.  You would first boot to MS Windows, reinstall the bootloader and then delete / change partition sizes using a non-destructive partition manager, (like gparted).  And I *think* the Win7 command to restore the bootloader is bootrec /fixmbr
[14:24] <burg> hello. what backup software is good for ubuntu server 12.04 ? i want to backup a folder daily
[14:24] <Marlenee> how to search for file name or filetype like .txt using grep  ?/
[14:24] <XXX> ServerTech: how is the open source driver then? tested it?
 i m asking abt clean uninstall of ubuntu wihtout harming windows
[14:24] <cfhowlett> burg, rsync seems pretty popular
[14:25] <user0404440> wfdnwork: 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[14:25] <xubuntu_> Marlenee: better using find
[14:25] <user0404440> That's the relevant part.
[14:25] <user0404440> Because that is your WiFi adapter.
[14:25] <burg> cfhowlett, does it allow incremental backup?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> RAHUL_CH, install virtualbox in windows.   put ubuntu in virtualbox.   ubuntu will never touch your HDD except as a windows app.  don't like it, delete it.  done.
[14:25] <usr13> cfhowlett: I think is question is just theoretical
[14:25] <XXX> Marlenee: ls -1 | grep -e '\.txt$'
[14:25] <cfhowlett> burg, as I understand it, yes.  but ask in the channel for more experienced advice.
[14:26] <ServerTech> XXX: I haven't made any changes to anything, so guide me through please. I try Xorg -configure and it says that the number of screens created is more than the number of devices detected.
[14:26] <burg> thank you
[14:26] <usr13> !vbox | RAHUL_CH
 thnks  got it...
[14:26] <user0404440> wfdnwork: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:26] <wfdnwork> user0404440: thanks man! now i'm searching for related bugs with this device!
[14:26] <XXX> ServerTech:so you havent installed any drivers manually?
[14:26] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: you probably need to change the X.org config file
[14:26] <user0404440> That link I just gave you has specific instructions for installing the driver.
[14:26] <RAHUL_CH> whther virtual box will give same speed as noraml...
[14:26] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: i dont remeber the full path, google for it
[14:27] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: Yes, it will.
[14:27] <RAHUL_CH> because i used in virtual box even in vmware and even in live also
[14:27] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: It is amazing.
[14:27] <RAHUL_CH> bt all were slower dan normal boot..
[14:27] <thomrenault> I'm trying to install hfsprogs in raring ringtail, but it says unable to locate package
[14:27] <cfhowlett> RAHUL_CH, no it will not.  but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference if you have a decent amount of ram.
[14:27] <thomrenault> I have checked universe in my software sources
[14:27] <RAHUL_CH> ohh...
[14:27] <user0404440> wfdnwork: "Install either bcmwl-kernel-source (instructions below) OR the broadcom-sta (instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/wl) packages."
[14:27] <Marlenee> xubuntu_ : find not work
[14:27] <RAHUL_CH> its 3 gb ram...only..
[14:28] <xubuntu_> Marlenee: what parameters are you using with find?
[14:28] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: 3G will do, 4G would be better....
[14:28] <cfhowlett> RAHUL_CH, install xubuntu or lubuntu then.
[14:28] <ServerTech> XXX, no I have not installed any drivers manually. xubuntu_  I tried Xorg -configure, but it says that the number of screens created is more than the number of devices detected. Also, the full path I believe is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
  okays..
[14:28] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: what is inside your xorg.conf
[14:28] <xubuntu_> ?
[14:28] <RAHUL_CH> xubuntu and lubuntu are same as kubuntu??
[14:28] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: as cfhowlett points out, there are many different Desktop Environments and some use a lot less system resources than others.
[14:29] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: I do not have an xorg.conf, I'm trying to create one with Xorg -configure
[14:29] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: lubuntu is low on the list, unity is high.
[14:29] <_dr> hi, i just installed ubuntu 12.04 and was wondering if there was any easy way to get the O_DIRECT flag for open(2) working
[14:29] <cfhowlett> RAHUL_CH, lubuntu and xubuntu are "lightweight" distros designed for older/low specification machines ... like a 3 gig ram inside virtualbox.
[14:29] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: Should have said lxde is low on the list and unity is high.
[14:29] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: i'm not sure this will work. you proably have a config file with another name.
[14:30] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: I use xfce
[14:30] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: I checked, there isn't.
[14:30] <RAHUL_CH> xfce..
[14:30] <RAHUL_CH> i never used...
[14:30] <bullicon> is it possible to add multiple swap to ubuntu ?
[14:30] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: xubuntu = xfce Desktop Environment
[14:30] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: what is your version of ubuntu?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> bullicon, why would you need MULTIPLE /swap?
[14:31] <zimb0> (defun should-be-constant ()
[14:31] <zimb0>   '(one two three))
[14:31] <zimb0>  
[14:31] <zimb0> (let ((stuff (should-be-constant)))
[14:31] <bullicon> cfhowlett I want to increase capacity
[14:31] <FloodBot1> zimb0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <zimb0>   (setf (third stuff) 'bizarre))   ; bad!
[14:31] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: 13.04. I have the same problem on Luna eOS (based on ubuntu) and chrome OS and well (chromium OS too)
[14:31] <zimb0>  
[14:31] <clue_h> RAHUL_CH, i'm not sure if this is a general rule but i've found the open source graphics drivers that come with the ubuntu install are quicker too if youre worried about speed, some proprietary ones have been too noisy in the past
[14:31] <RAHUL_CH> ohh so i need to know if i m installing virtual box with linux OS wther all softwares will be work properly i mean newly
[14:31] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: I'm currently using 13.04 though
[14:31] <RAHUL_CH> 3rd party sftwares
[14:31] <Marlenee> xubuntu_ : i dont use any parameters  just find and the filename i search for
[14:31] <usr13> bullicon: It is possible to have more than one swap partition but it is much better to have one big one, (rather than two small ones).
[14:31] <cfhowlett> RAHUL_CH, if the software came through the ubuntu software center, yes.
[14:31] <Marlenee> xubuntu_ : like that " find .csv "
[14:31] <bullicon> usr13 I had one initial small one, but can't delete it
[14:32] <RAHUL_CH> okkayzz..
[14:32] <usr13> bullicon: So just increase the size.
[14:32] <sarmad> i updated my elementary os box with kernel 3.9 from ubuntu main line kernel ppa..the problem now i am facing is my wifi is disabled at every statup however i can enable my wifi by using rfkill unblock all..help please
[14:32] <bullicon> usr13 how do I?
[14:32] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: there is a few possibilities like your graphic card driver module or xorg.config file is missing options
[14:32] <usr13> bullicon: With gparted
[14:33] <bullicon> usr13 its a server
[14:33] <usr13> bullicon:  YOu can use the install media.
[14:33] <tmmunq> just make swap files
[14:33] <bullicon> usr13 its a server not desktop
[14:33] <RAHUL_CH> suppose i need to install vlc type 3rd party from my hdd den
[14:33] <RAHUL_CH> whther it is possible..
[14:33] <RAHUL_CH> ?
[14:33] <sarmad> help please
[14:33] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: There is no xorg.conf right now. Not in the folder it should be, atleast.
[14:33] <XXX> ServerTech: just install the proprietary drivers then
[14:33] <usr13> bullicon: I keep a copy of http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php  in my brief case.
[14:33] <clue_h> vlc is available in the software center
[14:34] <bullicon> usr13 good move.
[14:34] <RAHUL_CH> ya.. but der will be many sftwrs which wont available..
[14:34] <bullicon> how do I do this from the terminal
[14:34] <OerHeks> sarmad, join #elementary for that, it is not supported by #ubuntu
[14:34] <cfhowlett> RAHUL_CH, choose a path.  if you want to TEST ubuntu, use virtualbox.  If you're a little braver and willing to fix thing that might break dual-boot.
[14:34] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: look inside /usr/share/X11/
[14:35] <RAHUL_CH> which will be better to install virtual box in C drive Or other drive..for no issues
[14:35] <ServerTech> XXX: proprietary drivers for? I tried installing Nvidia drivers, and GUI never worked again. I tried twice. I tried both startx and service lightdm start
[14:35] <bullicon> so basically, my second swap erased the first one.
[14:35] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: virtual box is an application that you install
[14:35] <bluefrog> !fr
[14:36] <RAHUL_CH> yupe  but if i  install in c drive current os drive it could might be slow...!!!
[14:36] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: I did, nothing there. There is no 10-monitor.conf (that's the name I think) in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d I tried creating one manually from a guide, no changes.
[14:36] <cfhowlett> RAHUL_CH, virtualbox will give you the fewest issues ...
[14:36] <zimb0> proprietary! oh my goodness, someone call rms
[14:36] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[14:36] <clue_h> i just faxed him
[14:37] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: try this command on your terminal>> locate xorg.conf
  <cfhowlett>  hmm thanks  alot....
[14:37] <RAHUL_CH> let me try all des things ..
[14:37] <RAHUL_CH> if some issues will occur let me get back u  later...
[14:37] <Marlenee> xubuntu_ : you dont answer me
[14:38] <usr13> RAHUL_CH: Very well
[14:38] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: Nothing. Shows files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d and a file called xorg.conf.d.5.gz and xorg.conf.5.gz in /usr/share/man/man5/
[14:38] <xubuntu_> Marlenee: find / -name 'bla.txt'
[14:38] <zimb0>  rm -rf ~
[14:39] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: maybe ubuntu fucked with xorg and changed names. i'm not sure
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !ops|zimb0
 :)\
[14:39] <Pricey> zimb0: if you're going to stay here, please be helpful :-)
[14:39] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: I tried in three different operating systems, ubuntu 13.04, Luna eOS (basically ubuntu) and chrome OS
[14:40] <zimb0> yes boss, sorry boss
[14:40] <usr13> Marlenee: To incorporate a wildcard character, you'll need to put it in quotes, like so:  find . -name "*txt"
[14:40] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: in all 3 you got the same behavior?
[14:41] <usr13> Marlenee: But if it is in only one directory, just use ls Like so:  ls Documents/*txt
[14:41] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: Yep
[14:42] <genii> zimb0: Don't issue dangerous commands into the open channel. Some people will just type what they see into their console sometimes.
[14:42] <ServerTech> I just changed it to 1280x1024 successfully xubuntu_ XXX, someone helped me on a different channel, used xrandr, it's temp I believe
[14:42] <usr13> Marlenee: There is also locate.  Like so:   locate *txt
[14:42]  * cfhowlett ... thinks that people who publicize malicious commands should be banned ...
[14:42] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: yes, i think its tmp
[14:43] <Marlenee> usr13 : i know locate but it find all file name located on the OS
[14:43] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: maybe this works out>> The xorg.conf does not exist by default any more. You CAN create one though.
[14:43] <xubuntu_> Boot into recovery mode and select Root Shell. Then run:
[14:43] <xubuntu_> X -configure
[14:43] <xubuntu_> Then:
[14:43] <xubuntu_> cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:43] <xubuntu_> Reboot and you can edit the new Xorg.conf.
[14:43] <FloodBot1> xubuntu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:44] <genii> !xorgconf | ServerTech
[14:44] <usr13> Marlenee: Yea, find will let you start at a particular directory and go from there.
[14:44] <Marlenee> i mean search for file name and filetype like .txt .pdf something like that
[14:44] <Marlenee> usr13 : you right
[14:44] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: maybe this works out
[14:44] <usr13> Marlenee: You can also pipe to grep to refine
[14:45] <clue_h> Marlenee, locate -b "filename.pdf"
[14:45] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: http://pastebin.com/sw5HaSSv
[14:46] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: I've been telling you that I've tried that several times, and it gives the error I mentioned, remember?
[14:46] <Jansen123> Eagleman
[14:46] <usr13> Marlenee: Like:  find Documents/ -name  "*.txt" |grep -i readme  or  locate txt |grep README
[14:47] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: have you followed all the steps?
[14:47] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: so show up the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:47] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: Yep, but I use the command Xorg -configure and not X -configure
[14:48] <ServerTech> It gives a fatal error in the process and halts, NOT creating the ilfe xubuntu_
[14:48] <ServerTech> file*
[14:49] <Marlenee> usr13 :  i have folder that folder contains random files like pdf txt mp4 conf - the question is how to find the any file name that has in his name txt or and thing i define
[14:49] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: try as root
[14:50] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: tried with root as well as with sudo
[14:50] <ServerTech> It doesn't work without root anyway
[14:51] <hyades> hey, is there difference between Gio modules in 12.04 and 12.10??
[14:51] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: do you have the file ~/.config/monitors.xml ?
[14:51] <hyades> I am refering to http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/python/Gio-2.0.html
[14:51] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: No
[14:52] <usr13> Marlenee: find Documents/ -name "*txt*" |grep Documents ; find Documents/ -name "*pdf" |grep Documents/ ; find Documents/ "*mp4" |grep Documents/
[14:52] <t0ken> Hello all, I've add a 'dns-search' config line to /etc/network/interfaces, how do I make it active, i.e. how do I get that to show up in /etc/resolv.conf without editing it manually?
[14:52] <t0ken> sudo service networking restart didn't seem to do it
[14:52] <Marlenee> usr13 : thanks
[14:53] <usr13> Marlenee: locate pdf txt mp4 |grep Docuemtns/
[14:54] <usr13> preceeded by sudo updatedb
[14:55] <usr13> Marlenee: oh you said just txt.  So:  locate txt |grep Documents/
[14:55] <hyades> is this correct place to ask about Gio modules???
[14:55] <usr13> Marlenee: Or:   find Documents/ "*txt" |grep Documents/
[14:56] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: No, I don't have that file
[14:56] <usr13> Marlenee: If you are already in the Documents directory:  find . "*txt" |grep Documents/
[14:56] <usr13> Marlenee: Correction:  find . -name "*txt" |grep Documents/
[14:56] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: man this is weird
[14:57] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: once i have a similar problem with debian
[14:57] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: but after creating the file everhing works out
[14:57] <Marlenee> usr13 : i have problems with Inodes
[14:57] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: why dont you create the file by hand?
[14:58] <usr13> Marlenee: compare df to df -i
[14:59] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: Simply because I don't know how to, if there is a guide, I can yea. Even if it doesn't work out, xrandr does the job and I don't reboot very often so, I don't think it's much of a problem for me, just a little annoying.
[15:00] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: ok, i will send you a model
[15:00] <Marlenee> usr13 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036865/
[15:00] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: That would be great :D
[15:01] <owlbread> ~user0404440:
[15:02] <usr13> Marlenee: What does df say?
[15:02] <usr13> Marlenee: df | pastebinit
[15:03] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: maybe this post will help you http://samuelmartin.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/enabling-resolutions-in-ubuntu-12-04-lubuntu-12-04/
[15:03] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: Ubuntu have a strange way to deal with xorg
[15:04] <ServerTech> I found a way to make xrandr changes persistent on the ubuntu wiki xubuntu_ , I'll try all of this.
[15:04] <ServerTech> Thanks for the time xubuntu_ , and you too XXX.
[15:04] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: what have you done?
[15:04] <XXX> :)
[15:05] <Marlenee> usr13 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036865/   ...
[15:06] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: http://goo.gl/f9XCKB
[15:06] <Marlenee> sorry
[15:06] <usr13> Marlenee: That is the same one you gave me last time, (df -i)  What does df say?
[15:06] <Marlenee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036886/ that is the right
[15:07] <Marlenee> and this when i try to install any programme - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036885/
[15:07] <usr13> Marlenee: apt-get -f install
[15:07] <xubuntu_> ServerTech:There are two disadvantages to using .xprofile for xrandr settings. First, it occurs fairly late in the startup process, so you'll see some resolution resizing during the initial screen draw; in some cases panel windows may resize improperly as a result. Second, as this is a per-user setting, it won't affect the resolutions of other users, nor will it alter the resolution on the login screen.
[15:08] <usr13> Marlenee: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:08] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: but good tip
[15:08] <Marlenee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036885/
[15:09] <fengqiang> hello
[15:09] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: Yea, I know that. I do have a problem, my monitor for some reason isn't auto-adjusting the res 1280x1024 and I
[15:10] <ServerTech> xubuntu_: am manually doing it :( So I guess xrandr persistence won't do
[15:11] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: well i'm gonna to luch now. but i think that dig a litle depper in xorg is the best options
[15:11] <ServerTech> Thanks again xubuntu_
[15:11] <xubuntu_> ServerTech: np :D
[15:12] <user258467> Hi, I am on ubuntu and I don't see any icons on my Desktop whereas I have in it directory
[15:13] <Marlenee> usr13 : sorry what i miss  ??
[15:13] <Marlenee> connection lost
[15:14] <clue_h> user258467, thats normal to begin with
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Sicno, how's the install going ?
[15:14] <user258467> clue_h, How do I display it?
[15:15] <clue_h> user258467,  in some cases you can drag the program to the desktop from hud, never tried myself as there may be permission issues
[15:15] <usr13> Marlenee: NOthing, I had to leave too.  But just pastebin the output of df  (Let's solve one problem at a time.)
[15:17] <usr13> Marlenee: But you seem to also have a problem with multiarch You might try dpkg-reconfigure multiarch-support
[15:18] <Sicno> BluesKaj: I tried to install inside windows first and I got the same errors, now it's time over, I must deliver the pc. It's not mine, it's an old lady's pc that got wiped out of everything on her windows partition, probably got infected. Wanted to install ubuntu on it since it would supply all her needs and would be more secure
[15:18] <Marlenee> usr13 : check that : /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: multiarch-support is broken or not fully installed
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Sicno, were trying to install inside a VB , you can't install from windows
[15:19] <Sicno> if I had more time I would have tried making the proper partition and installing ubuntu on it as it should really be
[15:20] <usr13> Marlenee: Instal it then.
[15:20] <usr13> Marlenee: sudo apt-get install multiarch-support
[15:20] <BluesKaj> absolutely , a dedicated partition is the only way to go , Sicno
[15:20] <Sicno> which I would have done if I had more time  ._.
[15:21] <Sicno> that was the next thing I would have tried
[15:21] <BluesKaj> Sicno, what's point of returning a pc that's broken ?
[15:21] <zorg24> What's the best way to reformat an sd for my phone on ubuntu?
[15:21] <blazemore> zorg24: use the Disk utility included with Ubuntu
[15:21] <gordonjcp> zorg24: depends what format you want to use
[15:21] <blazemore> zorg24: format it as FAT32
[15:22] <CountryfiedLinux> Here's a good theme option for the next Ubuntu release http://img.flashtux.org/upload/img1332c0c29fe3x34ed3902.png
[15:22] <zorg24> thanks blazemore
[15:22] <usr13> Marlenee: and if that didn't work, try:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall multiarch-support
[15:22] <BluesKaj> zorg24, actaully ntfs is better
[15:23] <usr13> Marlenee: If that fixes it, do;  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:23] <zorg24> BluesKaj, no its not I'm using it in an android phone...
[15:24] <genii> BluesKaj: Most Android phones won't recognize NTFS on the sdcard
[15:24] <zorg24> blazemore, there's only an option for FAT not FAT32 will that work?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> genii, zorg24 , really ..now that's really dumb , and strange
[15:24] <Marlenee> usr13 : its same error in every apt-get -   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036951/
[15:25] <Marlenee> and this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6036956/
[15:25] <Sicno> BluesKaj: it's not really broken... I restored windows on it with an utility HP included on the boot of the pc (it has an alternate partition with the image to re-install windows with factory settings and default programs). She can use her pc right as before, what I wanted to do was make her jump to ubuntu to avoid having a security vulnerability exploited (which is very likely what happened) again
[15:25] <BluesKaj> hmm, there's another strike against androids
[15:26] <BluesKaj> Sicno, good to hear :)
[15:28] <Sicno> hmmm... now I got an idea... I think I'll take the pc to her home and make her try the free tour in-browser and if she likes it I can go later to try and install it  :)
[15:28] <blazemore> Sicno: The "free tour" is just a silly advert mockup
[15:28] <usr13> Marlenee: Did you try the reinstall switch?
[15:28] <Sicno> but it may give her an idea about what to expect
[15:29] <blazemore> No I only like them when they're in their sockets. Just eyes on their own would be kinda creepy
[15:29] <blazemore> OK if you're running an IM client in one Screen window, and IRC in another, make sure the correct one is focussed when you're having a private conversation.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Sicno, good idea
[15:30] <Marlenee> usr13 : no tell me that
[15:32] <usr13> Marlenee: and if that didn't work, try:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall multiarch-support
[15:34] <usr13> Marlenee: cat /etc/issue   #Tell us what that says.
[15:34] <BabsSeed> Hey all, trying to install Ubuntu on a HP Pro 3505 workstation with an AMD Radeon APU. The CD just boots me to a black screen whether I pick Try, install or OEM install. Have tried adding nomodeset to kernel line. Any ideas?
[15:34] <Marlenee> usr13 : same error
[15:34] <BabsSeed> Verso is 13.04
[15:34] <Marlenee> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[15:34] <bilel> hi, I was successfully running windows 8 side to side with ubuntu thanks to grub, until now, I've replaced ubuntu 12.04 with ubuntu 13.04, but then I couldn't see the grub menu during computer boot, so I ran boot repair (that's what I had done to get it to work with 12.0
[15:35] <kyle___> Is there some trick to installing 13.04 with ext3 on an EFI system?  If I do automatic partitioning,everything works.  If I manually do it (so I can change the fs), it won't boot.
[15:35] <bilel> 12.04, but I still can't see grub
[15:35] <blazemore> bilel: Try holding Shift as your computer boots. Turn the computer off, hold Shift, and turn it on. Don't let go of shift until you see Grub, or Ubuntu start to boot
[15:36] <usr13> Marlenee: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[15:36] <bilel> blazemore: ok, is this only for the first time or I'll have to do this each time I want to boot ubuntu instead of windows?
[15:36] <blazemore> oh right I see your issue
[15:37] <MEDWARDS> I'm trying to get Pam-radius working on ubuntu ver 13.04 and 12.04.02. Can anyone assist me?
[15:37] <blazemore> !grub | bilel second link
[15:37] <hked> hi all, we are a bunch of developers and mind hackers who are starting a private community of geeks for enhancing and strengthening our knowledge base. We love ubuntu; that's the reason I post in this room. In case you're interested to learn more and be informed of our actions, check out our website http://mystharbor.com. This is not spam. Thank you !
[15:37] <blazemore> sorry bilel first link
[15:37] <blazemore> !spam | hked
[15:37] <usr13> Marlenee: And then, for the running out of inodes problem, see:  http://www.ivankuznetsov.com/2010/02/no-space-left-on-device-running-out-of-inodes.html
[15:37] <blazemore> !ot > hked
[15:38] <sedki> Hey !
[15:38] <unsecur3d> sup
[15:38] <clue_h> Hi!
[15:39] <sedki> Is there anyone ?
[15:39] <sedki> quit
[15:39] <clue_h> wow, how fast do people expect this to be
[15:39] <g105b> I've just let Ubuntu install itself automatically (no settings changed) but it won't boot. I've noticed the auto process has created an EFI partition, which is something I've never seen before. Should I install again, but install everything into the same partition? -- Do I _need_ an EFI partition (this is msata plugged directly into PCI)
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> clue_h  conversations go faster in social channels
[15:40] <blazemore> g105b: Let's focus on "won't boot" which seems to be the problem in hand
[15:40] <bilel> blazemore: I've already done this but I was in the actual ubuntu os, not in a live session, is it mandatory to run boot repair from a live session?
[15:40] <blazemore> bilel: No, but it's usual
[15:41] <clue_h> g105b, did you completely format the drive first, also removing the mbr
[15:41] <g105b> clue_h: yes I did.
[15:41] <g105b> blazemore: There is no boot device detected
[15:41] <blazemore> g105b: Do you have more than one hard drive in your computer?
[15:41] <bilel> blazemore: because when I boot and the usb live key is put on, I can press ESC, then "exit" in the grub command line, and then I can pick up ubuntu in a list, well anyway, I'll try the hold SHIFT thing, thx
[15:42] <blazemore> yes bilel but what's happened is you don't have grub
[15:42] <blazemore> fine suit yourself
[15:42] <g105b> blazemore: I do not.
[15:42] <bullicon> I suppose when a system has swap available, out-of-memory killer doesn't kill process right ?
[15:43] <bullicon> but doest not stop the system from running slowly?
[15:43] <Slart> bullicon: I kind of would expect it to use all the swap before killing the process.. isn't that the purpose of swap?
[15:44] <wolffff> hi guys, just formated my drive, havnt put it in the fstab, trying to access the drive through the desktop, getting this error : Error mounting /dev/sdb1 at /media/adriaan/Toshiba 1TB: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sdb1" "/media/adriaan/Toshiba 1TB"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[15:44] <wolffff> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[15:44] <wolffff> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not permitted
[15:44] <wolffff> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[15:44] <wolffff> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[15:44] <FloodBot1> wolffff: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:44] <wolffff> read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[15:44] <bullicon> Slart ok, true.
[15:45] <bullicon> Slart just worried that swap is not the best option, cos OOM kills hungry processes, such that new process can run optimally
[15:46] <bullicon> Slart I'd like only certain processes to use swapped memory.
[15:46] <Slart> bullicon: if you have wild processes you might want to look into limiting memory/process time.. there are functions for doing this but I don't recall what they are called at the moment
[15:46] <blazemore> wolffff: Do you have a Windows system available?
[15:46] <bullicon> Slart what is the behaviour when I limit memory/process time
[15:46] <bullicon> does it kill the process or sleeps it ?
[15:46] <wolffff> blazemore , nope. this is a clean disk
[15:47] <Slart> bullicon: I think the process just doesn't get any more memory.. ie it gets the out of memory error but the computer keeps working as normal
[15:47] <BabsSeed> Posting again for clarity: Trying to install 13.04 from a known working disc. Installed at home on my Phenom II without a problem. Am now trying to install at work (CEO personally OK'd this). I get given a menu with 'Try Ubuntu without installing', 'Install Ubuntu', 'OEM install' and 'Check disc for defects' instead of a purple splash. Choosing any of the first 3 options gives me a black screen, ctrl-alt-del
[15:47] <BabsSeed> does not reboot & have to hard reboot. Anyone else had this issue and how did you solve it?
[15:47] <Slart> bullicon: ulimit is what I was talking about
[15:47] <blazemore> wolffff: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs -y && sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[15:47] <bullicon> Slart and resumes when there is enough memory for it to consume ?
[15:47] <tcb^ll3r> I'm having some troubles w Ubuntu on a laptop. Any tips on debugging?
[15:48] <Slart> bullicon: I don't think so but I haven't really played around with it
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> tcb^ll3r  start with some more details
[15:48] <bullicon> Slart thanks
[15:48] <wolffff> thanks blazemore!!
[15:48] <blazemore> wolffff: more info http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-corrupted-windows-ntfs-filesystem-ubuntu/
[15:48] <wolffff> thank you!
[15:49] <Slart> bullicon: you're welcome.. hope ulimit works for you
[15:49] <tcb^ll3r> MonkeyDust: well, i checked syslog, and didn't see anything, but I have been getting CPU hangups
[15:49] <bullicon> Slart looking into it.
[15:49] <tcb^ll3r> MonkeyDust: its a Dell
[15:49] <g105b> Is an EFI partition required for booting off an MSATA plugged into PCI?
[15:50] <john_doe_jr> test
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> tcb^ll3r  what ubuntu version, any error messages?
[15:50] <daftykins> g105b: depends on the system, whether it uses a UEFI or legacy BIOS. typically you need the disk to be GPT and have an EFI partition if it's going to UEFI boot
[15:51] <tirengarfio> where are the font files I have in inkscape?
[15:51] <Marlenee> usr13 : see that - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6037033/
[15:51] <Marlenee> usr13 : can i resize inodes
[15:51] <g105b> daftykins: The machine's bios states it supports UEFI and legacy. Would it be a good idea for me to install onto 1 single partition?
[15:52] <tcb^ll3r> MonkeyDust: 12.04 32bit, on Dell studio-1569, no errors that I can see, but it crashed last night.
[15:52] <BabsSeed> Was hoping for a little more assistance. I could get this on 500 PCs over the next week if I can get it installed...
[15:52] <daftykins> g105b: assuming your mSATA (SSD?) is blank, you can tell it to just erase and use the whole drive. it really depends how you're going to use it. just ubuntu 13.04 on its' own?
[15:53] <tcb^ll3r> MonkeyDust: is there an error log besides syslog?
[15:53] <BabsSeed> Posting again for clarity: Trying to install 13.04 from a known working disc. Installed at home on my Phenom II without a problem. Am now trying to install at work (CEO personally OK'd this). I get given a menu with 'Try Ubuntu without installing', 'Install Ubuntu', 'OEM install' and 'Check disc for defects' instead of a purple splash. Choosing any of the first 3 options gives me a black screen, ctrl-alt-del
[15:53] <blazemore> BabsSeed: It depends on the PC in question, does it have a make and model? Have you tried checking the disk for defects using the relevant menu option?
[15:53] <BabsSeed> does not reboot & have to hard reboot. Anyone else had this issue and how did you solve it?
[15:53] <g105b> daftykins: yeah... just keepin' it simple - but the automatic installed ssd fails to be detected as boot device.
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> !details | tcb^ll3r let me put it this way
[15:53] <BabsSeed> blazemore: Using 'Check disc for defaults' does the same as the other 3 options: black screen.
[15:53] <clue_h> BabsSeed, try minimal install cd, it goes directly to install options instead of the desktop
[15:53] <BabsSeed> blazemore: I know its not defective, I used it to install my home PC.
[15:54] <daftykins> g105b: are you sure you're booting in UEFI mode for installation and setting up the disk right?
[15:54] <Slart> BabsSeed: black screen on boot up is a pretty common problem.. could be lots of things and it's hard to trouble-shoot when the system crashes.. have you tried adding noacpi noapic and such to the kernel boot parameters?
[15:54] <daftykins> !uefi | g105b
[15:54] <daftykins> g105b: have a look at the above for some more info ^
[15:54] <BabsSeed> Slart: Have tried nomodeset, haven't tried others.
[15:54] <g105b> daftykins: thanks
[15:54] <blazemore> BabsSeed: Have you tried waiting? It could be the splash screen isn't displaying for some reason. Perhaps you'll be greeted with the installer if you give it a few minutes of being blank
[15:55] <blazemore> BabsSeed: Don't forget the LiveCD takes a relatively long time to boot compared to a real system
[15:56] <Marlenee> usr13 : can i resize inodes
[15:57] <Slart> bullicon: cgroups seems like a promising feature as well.. not sure if that's something you can actually get to as a user or if it's intended for kernel use only.. might be worth reading up on though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cgroups
[15:57] <BabsSeed> blazemore: I'll try 5 mins, just to confirm pressing e, editing kernel line then pressing F10 applies the changes before booting right?
[15:57] <blazemore> How do I append to the start of a file in bash (like how > appends to the end)
[15:57] <blazemore> BabsSeed: correct
[15:58] <Anonynimity> Hello. I really need some help to fix my computers graphics display manager.
[15:58] <tcb^ll3r> Is there an error log I can access? It crashes, so i'm not getting any info!
[15:58] <bilel> hi, when running boot repair a message told me I had a buggy kernel (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6037037/), how can I fix this? I have a fresh ubuntu 13.04 x64 install from a live usb key.
[15:58] <blazemore> tcb^ll3r: what crashes?
[15:58] <Anonynimity> I get an error similar to the effect of: "running in low graphics mode."
[15:58] <tcb^ll3r> blazemore: This laptop crashes. I need to find error log to diagnose
[15:59] <tcb^ll3r> blazemore: ubuntu obviously (12.04)
[15:59] <somewad> How do I check my write speeds of RAID 0 ?
[15:59] <BabsSeed> blazemore: > doesn't append, it overwrites. >> appends.
[15:59] <blazemore> !details | tcb^ll3r what do you mean by crashes?
[15:59] <bullicon> Slart I would have thought the kernel comes with something like this.
[15:59] <Anonynimity> I installed the gnome3 ppa and the gnome3-(something or other)
[15:59] <bullicon> Slart if users have groups, why shouldn't processes ?
[15:59] <somewad> How do I check my write speeds of RAID 0 ?
[15:59] <bullicon> line of thought
[15:59] <john_doe_jr> I need to compile and build a specific version of a program…how would I go about doing that?
[15:59] <blazemore> BabsSeed: Yes that's what I meant but the most important thing is it puts the new stuff at the start of the file not the end
[15:59] <Slart> bullicon: afaik it does.. that hard part is interfacing with all the features =)
[15:59] <Anonynimity> then I did a dist-upgrade. after that, my gdm was broken and I'm wondering what I need to do to fix this.... please, someone help
[16:00] <blazemore> john_doe_jr: Download the source code for that version of the program, and follow the developers' instructions to build it
[16:00] <bullicon> Slart all the features in what sense/
[16:00] <somewad> How do I check my write speeds of RAID 0 ?
[16:00] <bullicon> ?
[16:00] <tcb^ll3r> I give up. If there is no error log, then I can't fix it
[16:00] <BabsSeed> blazemore: Hacky solution but works:
[16:00] <Slart> bullicon: I mean, there are lots of features in the kernel.. but not everything is easily accessible from a regular user
[16:00] <BabsSeed> echo "NewText" | cat - oldfile > /tmp/out && mv /tmp/out oldfile
[16:00] <john_doe_jr> blazemore: see I need I need ffmpeg version N-39951-g601d072
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> tcb^ll3r  we need to knwo *what* crashes and when
[16:00] <RoyK> somewad: something like 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/raid/somefile conv=sync"
[16:01] <RoyK> somewad: something like 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/raid/somefile conv=sync'
[16:01] <tcb^ll3r> MonkeyDust: the whole system, whenever it wants. I see no error in syslog
[16:01] <Slart> bullicon: ulimit is available by default, I think.. it seems cgroups has been included in the kernel for quite a while but there might not be a simple front-end to configure it with
[16:01] <blazemore> tcb^ll3r: You're doing the equivelant of going to the doctor and refusing to provide any information other than "I'm sick"
[16:01] <bullicon> Slart I see what you mean.
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> tcb^ll3r  that's too vague, describe what happens. is it during boot, during logging, while you are doing something?
[16:02] <BabsSeed> blazemore: Still getting this black screen, will try the minimal CD tomorrow
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> login, not logging*
[16:02] <RoyK> somewad: erm - more like 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/raid/somefile bs=1M count=1k conv=sync'
[16:03] <RoyK> somewad: that'll create a 1GB file and use O_SYNC to force the file being synced before dd returns
[16:03] <tcb^ll3r> MonkeyDust: blazemore I will see if I can get more info. Its just generally crashes whenever.
[16:03] <john_doe_jr> blazemore: would you do something like this: git co N-39951-g601d072 git://source.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg
[16:03] <somewad> RoyK:  Thanks mate, Ill look into it now
[16:05] <Anonynimity> I'm on ubuntu raring ringtail. I installed the gnome3 ppa, then I installed the gnome3-s... ppa. I did a apt-get update, and an apt-get upgrade. after doing this, I rebooted, and now my computer is saying "starting in low graphics mode..." can someone please please please help me fix this?
[16:06] <orianny_machado> hi!
[16:06] <bazhang> Anonynimity, the experimental PPA that has warnings with it? for gnome3.8?
[16:06] <orianny_machado> hello!
[16:06] <Anonynimity> yes... and now I need to revert
[16:06] <Anonynimity> the changes bazhang
[16:06] <gmachine_24> I'm using various versions of Ubuntu - 12.04LTS etc - I am looking for a VOIP (SIP?) program to replace Skype - I need one that also comes in Windows but perhaps that is not allowed to be asked
[16:06] <orianny_machado> help
[16:06] <blazemore> john_doe_jr: It depends on the software in question
[16:06] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | Anonynimity
[16:07] <bazhang> orianny_machado, ask the channel an actual question
[16:07] <blazemore> gmachine_24: ekiga but idk if it works in Windows
[16:07] <Anonynimity> I used the ppa-purge command but still starts in low graphics mode.
[16:07] <orianny_machado> Windows help
[16:07] <blazemore> !ot | orianny_machado
[16:07] <bazhang> orianny_machado, ##windows
[16:07] <gmachine_24> blazemore: ok I'll check it out. I'm vaguely familiar with Ekiga. I'm just sick of Skype bloat.
[16:07] <Anonynimity> I will be right back as I have to open firefox with terminal and cannot minimize it.
[16:07] <MAbeeTT> Hi!, I'm searcing for info about non-centraliced host querys in LAN network. I want the dns querys in the desktops to be solved without a "regular"central DNS, since my home network has the DHCP of the Home router.
[16:07] <orianny_machado> ok
[16:08] <orianny_machado> take
[16:08] <somewad> RoyK: It says 1.7 Gb/s...is that right ?
[16:08] <MAbeeTT> I read this article  http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76564/una  Gregorio_
[16:08] <orianny_machado> i love justin bieber
[16:08] <bazhang> MAbeeTT, try ##networking , thats not ubuntu specific
[16:08] <RoyK> somewad: seems a wee bit too high ;)
[16:08] <blazemore> orianny_machado: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[16:08] <bazhang> orianny_machado, this is the VERY wrong channel for that
[16:08] <somewad> 1.1 GB copied, 0.628049 s, 1.7 GB/s
[16:09] <somewad> Royk: 1.1 GB copied, 0.628049 s, 1.7 GB/s
[16:09] <RoyK> somewad: how many drives? what sort of drives?
[16:09] <MAbeeTT> cuack I read this article https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution, but I do not know how to announce the hostnames.
[16:09] <somewad> 2 drives, RAID 0 , 7200 rpm
[16:09] <orianny_machado> beauty and the beat
[16:09] <RoyK> somewad: then those numbers are bogus
[16:09] <bilel> blazemore: sorry to bother again, I tried to hold shift during the whole boot but I've ended up in windows, also, do you know why boot repair reports me a "buggy kernel", it's a fresh ubuntu 13.04 install (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6037037/)? thx
[16:09] <MAbeeTT> bazhang: ok, thanks, I thought there was quick answer for this.
[16:09] <RoyK> somewad: how much memory do you have? and what sort of filesystem is this?
[16:09] <anonee> somewad this is good, i used to get the same speed using 2 wd black drives
[16:10] <orianny_machado> somebody
[16:10] <orianny_machado> never say never
[16:10] <somewad> RoyK: alright , 8GB and xfs
[16:10] <blazemore> bilel: If Windows is booting and you don't see Grub, you don't have grub. I couldn't read your error
[16:10] <blazemore> !fr > bilel
[16:10] <RoyK> anonee: a 7200rpm disk can deliver something like 120MB/s if it's all sequencial
[16:10] <bazhang> orianny_machado, this is not the chat channel; #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[16:11] <RoyK> somewad: try bs=1M count=16k conv=sync
[16:11] <somewad> RoyK: Even with those speeds downloading at 30 MB/s causes them to get iowait of 30%
[16:11] <gmachine_24> what is the syntax to use --fix-missing? sudo apt-get update --fix-missing?
[16:11] <orianny_machado> bieber!!!!!!!!!!    love is new york
[16:12] <somewad> ok 16K count is taking time !
[16:12] <somewad> wtf is it ?
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> methinks orianny_machado is a bot
[16:12] <RoyK> somewad: it means "create a 16GB file"
[16:12] <RoyK> somewad: to somewhat bypass the caching done by xfs
[16:12] <somewad> Ah !
[16:13] <RoyK> bs == blocksize, count == block count, multiply those
[16:13] <somewad> Yeah i figured that mate.
[16:13] <RoyK> :)
[16:13] <orianny_machado> loosers
[16:13] <anonee> RoyK they were 2 blacks (these have a technology that the heads don't touch the surface of the disk, buffer=64MB) in raid0, i don't remember the exact speed but as far as I can remember it was around 1.something GB/s, maybe I'm wrong though, it was 2 years ago I'm not sure a lot happened since then
[16:14] <clue_h> orianny_machado, orb.
[16:14] <RoyK> anonee: I've worked with WD Blacks, they're just 7k2 drives, no magic, just an average drive (with a screwed firmware not supporting ERC)
[16:14] <somewad> RoyK: when I iostat, it says my writing kb/s is 18000, even when I do 4 wget at the same time.
[16:15] <RoyK> xfs is doing a lot of caching
[16:15] <anonee> anywayz... now I have a problem updating tor, it says W: GPG error: http://deb.torproject.org precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 74A941BA219EC810
[16:15] <somewad> If im using it for downloading with torrents xfs is good right ?
[16:16] <somewad> and damn this result is taking lot of time.
[16:16] <Sicno> ok, gotta go deliver the pc. Thanks for all the help :)
[16:16] <Sicno> (I'll leave this open)
[16:16] <orianny_machado> looserrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[16:16] <RoyK> somewad: of course it takes time - your drives aren't as fast as you thought they were ;)
[16:16] <BabsSeed> blazemore: WRT your prepending question, `sed` is the best tool for that imo. `sed -i "1iSome Text To Prepend" somefile.txt`
[16:17] <anonee> RoyK i wish I still have the screenshots btw I saved some data on a stupid twinmos ssd and now it just won't see but only 2GB, and refuses to let me upgrade the firmware... :(
[16:17] <somewad> RoyK: Hope crusher  pfft
[16:17] <anonee> RoyK it's a 256GB SSD, can't just throw it :(
[16:17] <blazemore> BabsSeed: Thanks, I ended up using a tempfile, non-atomic I know but it works in this case just fine. I like your name by the way, /join #rmlp
[16:18] <simple-bed> hi guys
[16:18] <RoyK> anonee: perhaps you could return it?
[16:18] <natherul> Hey all, I can hear my own mic all the time in my headset, any way to prevent it from playing the sound off the mic to the headset?
[16:19] <snufft> hey guys
[16:19] <somewad> why am I getting 40% i/o wait..I cant lower that number ?
[16:19] <snufft> i'm trying to run diff from the command line, but nothing happens. i run diff file1.css file2.css but it just gives me the next prompt in terminal
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> somewad: might be interesting you pastebin it to channel
[16:20] <RoyK> anonee: what sort of ssd?
[16:20] <snufft> does anyone know why it wouldn't be running, or can anyone point me in the direction of how to debug it?
[16:20] <somewad> RoyK: 34.7 MB/s
[16:20] <somewad> lotuspsychje: pastebin what ? iostat ?
[16:20] <anonee> RoyK it's twinmos, no way, I bought it from Dubai and I no longer live there, btw I tried to return it when it was still in the box but they refused, it's not just slow it's stupid, everybody (ppl who build their own ssd's) are talking about preventing this chipset (JMicron JMF602)
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> somewad: the error you having
[16:21] <somewad> im not having any error just io wait high and thus the load.
[16:22] <anonee> RoyK but I still want it, it got a usb port it's great for using as a big flash drive :D
[16:22] <somewad> and thanks to RoyK  my speed is coming to be 34.7 MB/s
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> somewad: i know there exist a package to kill processes after certain load
[16:23] <somewad> lotuspsychje: I suspect if my HDD are busted as 35 MB/s is VERY LOW
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> somewad: not sure if you can reduce io wait
[16:23] <anonee> somebody please help me with this error? W: GPG error: http://deb.torproject.org precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 74A941BA219EC810
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> somwad: you can test them with package testdisk aswell
[16:23] <HelloWorld321> in grep I'm using $ grep "[[:alpha:]]+" and I'm only getting matches that include a literal plus
[16:23] <somewad> lotuspsychje: testdisk ?
[16:23] <T4b1> anonee: The key of the ppa repo for tor is missing
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | somewad
[16:24] <anonee> I actually don't understand this error, it happened with another program too
[16:24] <MEDWARDS> if someone is able to assist me with pam-raidus could you privte message me - it's to hard to follow a response in the main window
[16:24] <anonee> yes T4b1, thank you, would you please explain to me how can I fix that?
[16:24] <somewad> Since Im on raid 0 , i dont have normal /sda shit
[16:24] <anonee> T4b1 cuz it's not the first time
[16:25] <somewad> lotuspsychje: thanks mate, ill look into it now
[16:25] <T4b1> anonee: I always forget, if you go to any ppa on launchpad it's explained how you add them, I think.
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> somewad: np
[16:25] <snufft> also, does anyone know why user defined hotkeys in 13.04 don't work after restart? if i go back into the hotkey section, they're still defined with correct mappings, but i have to re-map them for them to work again..
[16:25] <Anonynimity> Thank you sooooooo much for that! :) I am soooo happy. I have my desktop functional again. :))))))))
[16:27] <jonascj> I have compiled a new version of libvirt and installed it with "sudo make install" but it fails to start. All I can find out is that syslog contains "libvirt-bin terminated with status 6" and "libvirt-bin main proccess ended". Any suggestions as to where I might start digging?
[16:28] <linux|newb> anyone familiar with a decent end:end process for formatting pdf for comfortable kindle reading?
[16:28] <HelloWorld321> in grep I'm using $ grep "[[:alpha:]]+" and I'm only getting matches that include a literal plus.  Is this because its in quotes?  I'm actually using a much more complex regexp (http://www.regular-expressions.info/email.html), so I think I sorta need the quotes.  How would I get $ grep "[[:alpha:]]+" to match items with more than one letter, as intended by +?
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> linux|newb: there are several online tools that convert pdf to epub, but its not really ubuntu related
[16:29] <linux|newb> lotuspsychje: I'm using ubuntu ;)
[16:29] <Anonynimity> you could check here for libvirt-bin
[16:29] <Anonynimity> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/599342
[16:29] <hack_sys> hi all
[16:29] <T4b1> anyone an idea how I could get a kind of program launcher into the systray? alltray is not what I'm searching for. What I would like is just something which can put an icon into the systray and execute a command when that icon is clicked.
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> linux|newb: so you search for an ubuntu package to convert to epub?
[16:30] <linux|newb> lotuspsychje: cheers
[16:30] <bazhang> linux|newb, check out calibre
[16:30] <linux|newb> spidla: thanks :)
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> !find epub | linux|newb
[16:31] <hack_sys> can anyone tell me which linux flavour is best??
[16:31] <Anonynimity> lol! china was hit with a DDos Attack.
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> !best | hack_sys
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> hack_sys  the one that you prefer
[16:32] <bazhang> Anonynimity, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> hack_sys: ubuntu is the most popular, we recommend you install it!
[16:33] <hack_sys> ubuntu   / xubutu /lubuntu /kubuntu ??
[16:33] <anonee> I'm getting: keyserver timed out
[16:33] <hack_sys> out of this??
[16:33] <clue_h> hack_sys, ubuntu 12.04 or debian 6
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> hack_sys: depends on your needs/hardware
[16:33] <bazhang> hack_sys, try a live cd of them, dont poll here
[16:34] <anonee> does it happen often?
[16:34] <hack_sys> hmm...
[16:34] <hack_sys> no simply want to know which is light weight
[16:34] <bazhang> lubuntu hack_sys
[16:35] <HelloWorld321> I just asked bestbot, who says "the BESTEST linux is linux, because 1 people said so"
[16:35] <anonee> bazhang btw I'm wondering, why would ppl use lxde if xfce is not much bigger, a few megs maybe, and is a lot better?
[16:35] <clue_h> they're all good in their own way
[16:36] <hack_sys> whther we can install softwares in live cd?
[16:36] <bazhang> anonee, one is super lightweight, the other not
[16:36] <bazhang> hack_sys, sure, but its lost on reboot
[16:36] <jonascj> Anonynimity: I've seen that bug but they have log entries mentioning name resolution. I do not.
[16:36] <vnikil> I want a translate app?
[16:37] <anonee> bazhang you know u make me curious to try lxde on a vm or something
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> anonee: you can install lubuntu-desktop from your ubuntu aswell
[16:37] <anonee> so, room, about the keyserver timed out thingy, is it happening often or is it my ISP?
[16:37] <bazhang> vnikil, apt-cache search translate in the terminal
[16:38] <bazhang> !gpgerr | anonee this one?
[16:38] <Anonynimity> jonascj: I fixed gdm with the help of someone else.
[16:38] <Anonynimity> I had tried to install gnome3.8 but broke my gdm... someone told me how to purge the ppa
[16:39] <bazhang> Anonynimity, with ppa-purge, that may not fix it though, and that ppa has very clear warnings about such a case
[16:39] <genii> anonee: It's conceivable but unlikely that ports 389, 636, or 11370-11371 might be blocked
[16:39] <vnikil> thanks
[16:39] <Anonynimity> it fixed it bazhang. thank you...
[16:39] <anonee> lotuspsychje thanks a lot for the info, you know what? I originally installed this from within windows, as a vm, and now I'm using it in dual-boot, but I still can access it from within windows :D
[16:40] <Anonynimity> well, mostly, but now my mouse looks like a mac mouse... which I don't mind. :)
[16:40] <Anonynimity> brb
[16:40] <anonee> genii, bazhang this is it sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keys.gnupg.net  74A941BA219EC810
[16:40] <Anonynimity> gotta make me some fooodddddddddd
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> anonee: next step is loose windows once and for good and single install ubuntu :p
[16:41] <clue_h> and the final step is to use the win install cd as a place mat for cups of tea
[16:41] <HelloWorld321> How would I get $ grep "[[:alpha:]]+" to match items with more than one letter, as intended by +?
[16:42] <RoyK> HelloWorld321: IIRC the grep regex doesn't support +, so try [[:alpha:]][[:alpha:]]*
[16:42] <HelloWorld321> tx RoyK
[16:43] <wolffff> what is a good file copier for ubuntu, one which supports verifying data and pause ...like unstoppable copier ?
[16:43] <clue_h> \+
[16:43] <tmmunq> rsync
[16:44] <rypervenche> wolffff: rsync ftw :)
[16:44] <HelloWorld321> I've never used rsync personally, but it comes well recommended.
[16:44] <HelloWorld321> rsync is teh uber
[16:44] <anonee> lotuspsychje yeah, but you didn't get me, I can just format the windows drive now, no need to reinstall, although this ubuntu installation was done from within windows, a virtual machine using a physical drive ;)
[16:44] <wolffff> thanks guys !
[16:46] <sett> could anyone help my software center keeps failing after start http://pastebin.com/aVKMQri6
[16:46] <yumno> Hi, I'd like to know if anyone else has this problem: Open a "Files" window, go to some folder, select some program and then click on the "files" icon. It will open a new window instead of opening the one thats open
[16:47] <yumno> its really annoying and i have no idea why its doing that
[16:47] <clue_h> yumno,  how do you do it, that didnt happen for me
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> yumno: are you on 13.04?
[16:48] <anonee> it worked!
[16:48] <yumno> lotuspsychje: yes
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> yumno: scroll on nautilus icon
[16:49] <see1> hi
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> see1: hi what can we do for you?
[16:49] <see1> i have question about the update on nginx
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> !info nginx
[16:49] <see1> it fails here everytime
[16:50] <anonee> it didn't work before because I used keys.gnupg.net instead of keyserver.ubuntu.com! OMG ubuntu! what the heck is keys.gnupg.net anyway? :D
[16:50] <yumno> lotuspsychje: that works, thanks?
[16:50] <see1> lotuspsychje: http://p.ngx.cc/0b20
[16:50] <see1> thats the msg
[16:50] <yumno> lotuspsychje: any idea why nautilus is the only program who has this error?
[16:50] <jonascj> style application on Ubuntu. See the Usage manual page for details on the desktop setup.
[16:52] <tcb^ll3r> I'm running 12.04, on a dell laptop (studio 1569), randomly, the screen goes black with white writing. it says: [bug] unable to handle kernal paging request
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> yumno: this changed in 13.04, you can scroll every icon this way to have it ontop
[16:53] <tcb^ll3r> gives a stack trace hex code
[16:53] <see1> lotuspsychje: any idea, what i can do?
[16:53] <yumno> lotuspsychje: I see. The problem is that when I have 1 window open, i cant just click it (because it makes it 2 windows). No other program has this fault.
[16:54] <Marlenee> how i reinstall my OS from scratch on my SSh server using CLI ??
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> yumno  use the scroll wheel to open the window, not click it
[16:54] <clue_h> yumno, may be a long shot, but have you tried edit>preferences>behaviour?
[16:55] <yumno> MonkeyDust: yeah, I know now. Im just wondering why clicking wouldnt work.
[16:55] <anonee> lotuspsychje is there a certain way that you recommend to install lxde from here? and will I be able to use the GNOME login screen by default?
[16:55] <tcb^ll3r> I'm running 12.04, on a dell laptop (studio 1569), randomly, the screen goes black with white writing. it says: [bug] unable to handle kernal paging request.
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> anonee: what version are you on now?
[16:55] <yumno> clue_h: tried it, it has no influence
[16:56] <anonee> 12.04 using GNOME 3.4 in fallback mode (GNOME Classic as ubuntu calls it)
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> !info lubuntu-desktop | anonee
[16:56] <tcb^ll3r> is this a kernal panic?
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> anonee: install that one and you will be able to choose gnome fallback or lubuntu
[16:57] <anonee> lotuspsychje sounds good! I'll try it :D
[16:57] <RoyK> tcb^ll3r: a [bug] is usually not a panic
[16:57] <see1> lotuspsychje: any idea, what i can do?
[16:58] <tcb^ll3r> RoyK: it stops working entirely
[16:58] <anonee> lotuspsychje can I install xfce the same way?
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> see1: sorry mate never used nginx, maybe try a purge and reinstall?
[16:58] <tcb^ll3r> RoyK: at random
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> !info xubuntu-desktop | anonee
[16:58] <herbaliser> hi anybody that can help me restoring a RAID-1 with mdadm
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> !raid | herbaliser
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> yumno  i guess, because F3 dual pane has been disabled
[16:59] <anonee> OMG they're tiny! I like that! :D
[16:59] <herbaliser> i have replaced the disk and when i re-add the partition to the raid one of my partition is failing.  unrecoverable io read
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> !info e17 | anonee
[17:00] <tcb^ll3r> I don't have the linux skills to diagnose and fix this :(
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> anonee: try that1 for oldskool fun :p
[17:00] <tcb^ll3r> Gonna have to figure something else out
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> tcb^ll3r: best is you pastebin your error and re-ask once in a while
[17:00] <zorg24> What's the best way to get MTP working?
[17:01] <tcb^ll3r> lotuspsychje: i can't paste bin it; the somputer is completey crashing
[17:01] <anonee> thank you lotuspsychje, I'll do, bye for now ubuntu
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> tcb^ll3r: did you try recovery from grub, or booting a previous kernel?
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> tcb^ll3r  does the screen freeze, does it turn black? at what point? we have to know *something*
[17:02] <tcb^ll3r> MonkeyDust: I'm running 12.04, on a dell laptop (studio 1569), randomly, the screen goes black with white writing. it says: [bug] unable to handle kernal paging request.
[17:02] <Frank81> any one can help me a bit i am not so familary with mail server software what would i need to forward simply all incoming emails i don't care for the address simply get forwarded and not saved in a own mbox or else to one email address?
[17:02] <herbaliser> exact aerror message unrecoverable I/O read error for block 1401198976
[17:03] <tcb^ll3r> MonkeyDust: totally freezes
[17:03] <tcb^ll3r> lotuspsychje: no, i did not do recorvery
[17:03] <Frank81> herbaliser us disk repair tool and save your data
[17:03] <tcb^ll3r> lotuspsychje: last time i tried to do recovery it froze the system
[17:04] <tcb^ll3r> I have fized problems in the past, but this is above my skill level
[17:04] <tcb^ll3r> fixed
[17:04] <thomrenault> is hfsprogs still in the ubuntu repository as of raring ringtail?
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> tcb^ll3r: what Os came default on your dell?
[17:04] <tcb^ll3r> lotuspsychje: windows 7
[17:04] <Frank81> thomrenault: simply use the ubuntu wiki for such questions
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> !info hsfprogs
[17:04] <tcb^ll3r> lotuspsychje: this is a loaner computer
[17:04] <Frank81> it tells you what package is in what distro
[17:04] <FatDarrel> is slashdot down
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> tcb^ll3r: doublecheck if network boot is enabled in bios, some laptops freeze on ubuntu if not enabled
[17:05] <herbaliser> Frank81 smartctl, fsck , badblocks
[17:05] <tcb^ll3r> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks I look into it
[17:05] <Frank81> i would connect a new disk and run testdisk
[17:05] <tcb^ll3r> lotuspsychje: so network boot should be enabled?
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> tcb^ll3r: did you try another ubuntu version install, that not freezed?
[17:05] <t0th_-> hi
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> tcb^ll3r: if the freezes are caused by that, you can try yes
[17:06] <sett> could anyone help me i need to disable hdd sleep of all drives
[17:06] <t0th_-> how i can put in fstab the owner of directory to mount a dev?
[17:06] <modafinil> I'm trying to get initctl to recognize a symlinked job, I know it's not auto-detected, but initctl reload-configuration isn't working for me anymore -- any ideas?
[17:06] <tcb^ll3r> lotuspsychje: i tried the 12.04 64bit; the mouse wouldn't work, but i think the drivers for this are 32 bit
[17:06] <herbaliser> Frank81 the company where my server is replaced the sda disk that was failing, then i did a rebuild but is fails on sdb io read error
[17:07] <herbaliser> hardware diagnostics did not return an error on sdb
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> tcb^ll3r: you can try 12.10 or 13.04 just to test if system freezes also
[17:07] <tcb^ll3r> lotuspsychje: i can't find 12.10
[17:07] <t0th_-> how i can put in fstab the owner of directory to mount a dev?
[17:07] <anonee> !info xubuntu
[17:08] <auronandace> !info xubuntu-desktop | anonee
[17:08] <anonee> lotuspsychje I thought I memorized them lol
[17:08] <ffio> why i can't find sudo apt-get cache plymouth-theme-xubuntu-tex  ?
[17:08] <ffio> it's showing as installed in synaptics
[17:08] <weblife> http://askubuntu.com/q/337698/88546
[17:09] <weblife> one more vote to reopen > http://askubuntu.com/q/337698/88546
[17:09] <ffio> weblife: what's that ?
[17:09] <weblife> editing plymouth directly
[17:10] <see1> lotuspsychje: do you have command for purgeing the stuff...i´m new to this all
[17:10] <t0th_-> :(
[17:10] <weblife> there may be some useful links for ours though that reference how to install plymouth themes
[17:10] <badg3r> quick question on the side, everytime I install the proprietary nvidia drivers my screen shuts off on reboot and doesn't come back on. Is there a fix for that somehow?
[17:10] <weblife> ffio: there may be some useful links for ours though that reference how to install plymouth themes
[17:10] <clue_h> sudo apt-get purge
[17:10] <see1> i only want to purge nginx or?
[17:11] <weblife> ours = yours
[17:11] <daftykins> badg3r: is it just the brightness at login?
[17:12] <ffio> weblife: plymouth themes is already installed
[17:12] <badg3r> no, I'm on a macbook and tried raising the brightness. The screen literally just shuts off and doesn't come back
[17:13] <david__> Hi, just installed 13.04 and tried to use VLC to load a DVD but get permission denied...I can see the files, but can't run them. Suggestions?
[17:13] <flipper88_fl> Whaty is the layest daily build of ubuntu?
[17:13] <flipper88_fl> ^^ latest
[17:13] <clue_h> david__, from the terminal or vlc gui?
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> flipper88_fl, I believe there are dailies for all releases technically that 3 plus the development.
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> that's
[17:14] <david__> clue_h I tried both.
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> flipper88_fl, in other words what is it you want exactly.
[17:15] <flipper88_fl> wilee-nilee: What i the code name for the dev release, As i signed up to help out on the ubuntu wine-ppa
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> flipper88_fl, 13.10 saucy salamander
[17:15] <wolffff> david , i had similiar issues, installed restricted extras through software centre and it was solved
[17:16] <flipper88_fl> thanks wilee-nilee
[17:16] <david__> wolfff, thanks, I will try that now.
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> flipper88_fl, generally release means a official release the development is called just that.
[17:20] <bashbang> !echo
[17:21] <david__> wolffff, that was it, works great. thanks again.
[17:21] <wolffff> np david__  !
[17:21] <bullicon> ok, this is silly or I am tired, trying to create a directory but getting Permission denied.
[17:22] <bullicon> the directory is group writeable
[17:22] <bullicon> and the current user is a member of the group
[17:22] <bullicon> sudo chmod -R g+rwxs <dir> should make <dir> group writable no ?
[17:23] <bullicon> stat show Access: (2775/drwxrwsr-x)
[17:23] <RoyK> bullicon: I somewhat wouldn't recommend that command :P
[17:23] <bullicon> RoyK what would you do ?
[17:23] <RoyK> bullicon: what are you trying to do?
[17:24] <bullicon> make a directory group writable.
[17:24] <bullicon> and adding a user to that group
[17:24] <RoyK> bullicon: no reason for +s
[17:24] <SubCool> can someone help me quick. im having an issue with my box. java is some how screwing up my ability to update...
[17:24] <Anonynimity> reinstall your java version?
[17:24] <SubCool> its getting stuck install icetea or something.. and refuess to complete it or remove it..
[17:24] <Anonynimity> then update??
[17:24] <RoyK> bullicon: just chown someuser:somegroup <dir> and then chmod g+w <dir> and you should be set, better chmod g+t too, to make group sticky
[17:25] <bullicon> ok
[17:25] <genii> SubCool: A pastebin of the exact errors it's giving might be useful to examine
[17:25] <VJ> hello hie..
[17:25] <VJ> all
[17:26] <bullicon> RoyK still doesn't work.
[17:26] <bullicon> Permission denied
[17:26] <bullicon> hmm, for some reason the user is no longer a member of the group
[17:27] <genii> bullicon: Perhaps you used usermod for adding the the group and gorgot to put the -a for "append"  ?
[17:27] <bullicon> sudo usermod -a -G <group> <user>
[17:28] <genii> gorgot->forgot
[17:28] <bullicon> I did ^
[17:28] <skegeek> Does 'Legacy mode' need to be on or off to dual-boot with Win8 without problems?
[17:28] <genii> bullicon: The new group will not take effect until logout-login cycle
[17:28] <bullicon> ah
[17:28] <see1> can here any1 update ngnix ``
[17:28] <see1> ?
[17:28]  * bullicon knocks my head
[17:29] <see1> Get:1 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/universe nginx-common all 1.1.19-1ubuntu0.2 [17.5 kB]
[17:29] <bullicon> genii thanks and RoyK  too
[17:29] <see1> i try to update to 1.4.2
[17:34] <see1> ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu/dists/  precise/	03-Nov-2011 04:28 <--last update
[17:35] <bazhang> see1, contact the PPA maintainer
[17:35] <see1> how?
[17:35] <bazhang> see1, check the ppa page, and find out
[17:41] <AcidRain2012> where are the ssh server logs located?
[17:41] <HiddenCloud> C:/windows/System32
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | AcidRain2012
[17:43] <AcidRain2012> lotuspsychje, ok, how do i get more information into the log file. like... why the connection was refused?
[17:43] <AcidRain2012> why i couldnt connect? ect...
[17:43] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: if your on a linux system check /etc/ssh/sshd_config and look for the lines SyslogFacility & LogLevel
[17:44] <SolarisBoy> those messages should go to /var/log/auth.log by default
[17:44] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, they dont... want to see the last line in my log?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> AcidRain2012: you have openssh server running on your machine you want to connect?
[17:44] <AcidRain2012> Aug 28 12:39:01 acidrain-CM1730-CM1830 CRON[5978]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) Aug 28 12:39:01 acidrain-CM1730-CM1830 CRON[5978]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[17:44] <AcidRain2012> lotuspsychje, yes
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: those are for cron
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: you'll be looking for ssh related messages
[17:45] <AcidRain2012> in filezilla, which i was able to connect last night and see the full filesystem. it worked. then i disconnected and reconnected and nothing happened
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> if you have access to the SSH server you can check the auth.log for a clue as to why otherwise you should ensure your client is properly configured (and retained whatever configuartion you used when it worked)
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: ^
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> AcidRain2012: iptables or router could block?
[17:47] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, i didnt change anything.
[17:47] <AcidRain2012> lotuspsychje, ports are forwarded. and as of now, i am connecting from localhost
[17:47] <AcidRain2012> i changed NOTHING. connected. it worked. disconeccted. unable to connect to server
[17:47] <jonascj> I would like to reinstall Ubuntu Server 12.04 and I have a mirror raid with two disks and two paritions on each with md0 being sda1 and sdb1, and md1 being sda2 and sdb2. If I just make sure to untick "format" when I choose partition layout will I then keep my data on those mount points with "format" unticked?
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: so this connection is through an existing ssh forwarded port (presumably a forwarded ssh port?)
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> jonascj: you can try ask in the #ubuntu-server channel aswell mate
[17:48] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, yes, port 22
[17:48] <jonascj> lotuspsychje: thanks
[17:48] <ccmolik> so i'm trying to mirror a repo with landscape, and I'm having an issue where "Packages" isn't getting populated in the main/binary-amd64/ dir
[17:49] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: can you access the host that you forwarded through and ensure that the port forward is still active?
[17:49] <AcidRain2012> yes. you mean in the router? ill check now
[17:49] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: should be able to ssh to whatever that is and run ~#
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> AcidRain2012: you could try nmap on yourself aswell
[17:49] <SolarisBoy> (which should make ssh print what it is forwarding)
[17:50] <AcidRain2012> the port is indeed forwarded
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: got it
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: and from the router to the port - are you getting any refusal? (use telnet or so)
[17:51] <AcidRain2012> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> whammy
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> so any port forwards using that would be affected from that point on
[17:52] <AcidRain2012> meaning?
[17:52] <SolarisBoy> you should confirm a) the ssh server is UP/OK (functional) b) there is not an intermediary blockage
[17:52] <SolarisBoy> like a ACL or fw
[17:52] <Matt_91> is possible that in my internet connection if i make a "ping" all is ok, if i make a "host" all is ok, if i go to google or facebook by https all is ok, if i try to go to a site in http the internet connection not work if i make a traceroute the packet remains on my computer
[17:52] <AcidRain2012> how do i make sure its functional?
[17:52] <ccmolik> is anyone familiar with landscape's mirroring process here?
[17:52] <AcidRain2012> i mean... it just worked last night.
[17:53] <SolarisBoy> telnet to the port generally returns headers - accessing the actual server and ensuring the process is running xyz
[17:53] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: understandable - it really means nothing in the sense that processes die - stuff happens
[17:53] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, ill restart ssh server now?
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: if you have access to the ssh server you should investigate and take the action thats neccessary
[17:54] <AcidRain2012> restarted. same issue. connection refused
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> i dont htink your getting it =)
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> in general the remote service may be down
[17:54] <xyzzymaze> jonascj: What's on those partitions? If one is boot, other than the config, I would think you'd want to write over it ...
[17:54] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, my ssh server isnt logging anything into auth.log
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> nothing local to you -
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: it shouldn't -
[17:54] <AcidRain2012> how do i make it do that? :/
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> unless your ssh server is the one your connecting to
[17:54] <AcidRain2012> i cant troubleshoot blindly
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> your right -
[17:55] <SolarisBoy> ultimately there are steps to have in place if you need to avoid things like this -
[17:55] <AcidRain2012> -.- SolarisBoy  it is my ssh server.
[17:55] <SolarisBoy> they may not always apply
[17:55] <SolarisBoy> remote access card - KVM/DRAC/ILO allows access to systems console to check stuff liek this remotely
[17:55] <AcidRain2012> my main question that may help me solve all issues. is: how do i make ssh server log EVERYTHING? and where is that file?
[17:55] <AcidRain2012> im on the machine now that is running the ssh server
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: change the loglevel if you want more logging
[17:56] <AcidRain2012> im trying to connect to the ssh server from my machine
[17:56] <AcidRain2012> LogLevel VERBOSE
[17:56] <AcidRain2012> done
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> bounce the service
[17:56] <RoyK> what is a SolarisBoy doing at #ubuntu? ;)
[17:56] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, define 'bounce' the service?
[17:56] <genii> Also maybe run ssh client with -vvv
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> restart it
[17:56] <streusalz> RoyK: waiting for the kickt to #solaris
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> +1 genii
[17:56] <RoyK> heh
[17:56] <Frank81> AcidRain2012: bounce means often forwarding
[17:57] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, its been restarted with this option.
[17:57] <Frank81> like a bouncer for irc a bnc
[17:57] <SolarisBoy> check the logs now -
[17:57] <AcidRain2012> still nothing. if logs for ssh is at /var/log/auth.log   <--- no ssh logs there
[17:57] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: you want to check /var/log/messages likely now
[17:57] <marianne> hi guys... doing a install of 12.04 from disc -- do I need to disable UEFI on my new motherboard? just doing that last bit of research before i build
[17:58] <SolarisBoy> those would just be for authentication related messages which i initially suspected your issue was -
[17:58]  * SolarisBoy feels unwanted here now =(
[17:58] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, /var/log/messages doesnt exist
[17:58] <AcidRain2012> can i not manually set a log path in sshd_config?
[17:58] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: pardon - syslog /var/log/syslog
[17:59] <SolarisBoy> it's going to just log to the standard syslog log which is preferable
[17:59] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: check syslog for kernel stuff and auth.log for authentication issues
[17:59] <AcidRain2012> RoyK, no authentication issues there. syslog contains nothing of sshd
[17:59] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: log placement varies between OSes and distros, it's rather easy to be confused
[18:00] <SolarisBoy> what i am trying to understand is what you expect to see..
[18:00] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: daemon.log?
[18:00] <AcidRain2012> auth.log: Aug 28 12:51:43 acidrain-CM1730-CM1830 sudo: acidrain : TTY=pts/1 ; PWD=/home/acidrain ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/etc/init.d/ssh restart
[18:00] <AcidRain2012> thats all i got in that file
[18:00] <SolarisBoy> you said this - you accessed the service via a portforward correct?
[18:00] <SolarisBoy> so you forwarded via a remote router correct? AcidRain2012 ?
[18:00] <streusalz> AcidRain2012: just to make sure: you know the grep command?
[18:00] <vtux> hey, can someone tell me if there are any real benefits to mosh, if i'm already using byobu
[18:00] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, i accessed the service with filezilla using: localhost,acidrain,pass,22
[18:00] <SolarisBoy> and the service forwarded is what you confirmed you can't reach right?
[18:00] <SolarisBoy> yesterday right??
[18:01] <SolarisBoy> and we just tested that whatever you had forwarded was not actually reachable correct?
[18:01] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, according to filezilla, correct
[18:01] <SolarisBoy> wait - show me the command that you use to forward ports -
[18:02] <SolarisBoy> and show me the basic properties of the filezilla connection other than user/pass
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> filezilla now says: Error:	Connection refused. with no changes to sshd_config or anything else on the system. ive just been looking for log files
[18:02] <SolarisBoy> exactly it's being refused at the remote side - you need to see why..
[18:02] <SolarisBoy> it's not going to be logged locally regardless of if your port forwarding the error is not in your "service" its in your client
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, i connect on filezilla using port 22
[18:02] <SolarisBoy> ^
[18:03] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, thats what im trying to do, is see why. but i cant find any log files at all. filezilla seems to return irrelevant errors
[18:03] <AcidRain2012> Error:	Could not connect to server <--- filezilla. on filezilla retry: Error: Connection Refused.
[18:04] <SolarisBoy> if the server is not accssible via the router it wont be via localhost.
[18:04] <SolarisBoy> you said it was forwarded through the router - and you just said you got the connection refused from the router to the service-
[18:04] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, on the router i have port forward: 22,22,22,22 sftp 192.168.1.2
[18:04] <AcidRain2012> which is indeed my ip.
[18:04] <SolarisBoy> ?
[18:04] <genii> <cough-port forawrding-cough-cough>
[18:05] <SolarisBoy> oh
[18:05] <AcidRain2012> external port start, external port end, internal port start, internal port end
[18:05] <SolarisBoy> i thought you meant ssh port forwarding -
[18:05] <AcidRain2012> in sshd: Port 22
[18:05] <herbaliser> can i run fsck on software raid volume?
[18:06] <SolarisBoy> how come your forwarding a range?
[18:07] <SolarisBoy> i would imagine it would be just the port forward feature of the router not the forward range no? external:22->internal:22 (you should probably change your external port to something a little less well known)
[18:07] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, my netgear router only allows me to forward a range. lol
[18:07] <sinkensabe> anyone using springseed and knows how to add code and keeping indentation and so forth when saving?
[18:07] <SolarisBoy> dang
[18:07] <tmmunq> so forward the range /32
[18:07] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, well... ill change ports around once i get it working for sure
[18:07] <SolarisBoy> true
[18:07] <povoacao> someone have a link how to configure ubuntu 12.04 with hugepage and kvm?
[18:08] <genii> AcidRain2012: If you're trying to access this from a machine on the same side of the lan as 192.168.1.2 by going out to the internet facing ip, likely the router is dropping the packets because it thinks they are being spoofed as being on your lan.
[18:08] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: can you 'ssh localhost?'
[18:08] <AcidRain2012> does anyone else have any idea how to make sshd log, and where that log file is?
[18:08] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, let me try
[18:08] <SolarisBoy> i know my router has a feature to allow traffic from inside to the external interface without dropping it
[18:08] <chockey> is sshd running?
[18:08] <AcidRain2012> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[18:09] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: is the service running?
[18:09] <genii> SolarisBoy: Yes, "allow martians" or such, but not all routers have that
[18:09] <SolarisBoy> yea
[18:09] <AcidRain2012> ssh start/running, process 6389
[18:09] <SolarisBoy> mines is DDWRT =)
[18:09] <SolarisBoy> aka linux
[18:09] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: and your behind or in front your firewall? (sorry but im confuzled now)
[18:10] <chockey> AcidRain2012: ps aux | grep sshd
[18:10] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, no firewall setup here
[18:10] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: umm... router=fw
[18:10] <AcidRain2012> acidrain  6421  0.0  0.0   4384   812 pts/3    S+   13:07   0:00 grep --color=auto sshd
[18:10] <SolarisBoy> hmm thats not running
[18:10] <chockey> sshd is not running
[18:10] <AcidRain2012> wtf
[18:10] <AcidRain2012> why?
[18:10] <SolarisBoy> what the hek is upstart talkin
[18:10] <AcidRain2012> how do i start sshd?
[18:11] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: sudo service ssh start
[18:11] <AcidRain2012> ssh start/running, process 6437
[18:11] <SolarisBoy> try the ps again
[18:11] <AcidRain2012> acidrain  6469  0.0  0.0   4384   808 pts/3    S+   13:09   0:00 grep --color=auto sshd
[18:11] <chockey> from the terminal you can try `which sshd` -p 2002 -d
[18:11] <SolarisBoy> something is killing it - you may have a error preventing startup
[18:11] <chockey> that'll start it interactively and output debug messages to stdout
[18:12] <SolarisBoy> configuration error or such -
[18:12] <chockey> your sshd config is probably messed up
[18:12] <AcidRain2012> zomg
[18:12] <SolarisBoy> like when you just edited it to change the LogLevel
[18:12] <SolarisBoy> maybe revert that -
[18:12] <AcidRain2012> hang on, how do i force uninstall of everything sshd related. i foolishly did not backup my config
[18:13] <SolarisBoy> woa
[18:13] <SolarisBoy> i mean the same way you would do any other removal apt-get purge ssh
[18:14] <SolarisBoy> but i dont think you need to do that..
[18:14] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: easy to revert just remove VERBOSE and change it back to INFO
[18:14] <AcidRain2012> unable to locate package purge. lol
[18:14] <chockey> it's probably easier to just download a default config
[18:14] <Anonynimity> how do I enable altgr in ubuntu raring?
[18:14] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: just change the VERBOSE to INFO
[18:14] <SolarisBoy> you really don't need to do what your doing you changed one line AFAIK - i just believe VERBOSE is not a valid log level
[18:15] <SolarisBoy> DEBUG is though
[18:15] <gaf> hi, I'm running ubuntu 10.04 as my desktop. am I vulnerable to any security problem? i keep updated and it seems fine
[18:15] <chockey> or just run sshd interactively, it'll probably tell you exactly what's wrong with the config
[18:15] <AcidRain2012> root      6559  6.1  0.3 138116 29140 ?        Sl   13:12   0:01 gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[18:15] <AcidRain2012> acidrain  6629  0.0  0.0   4384   812 pts/3    S+   13:13   0:00 grep --color=auto sshd
[18:15] <chockey> gaf: 10.04 is outside even the LTS time period, right?
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> gaf yes tecnically and no support
[18:16] <petey> can anyone here help me create a symlink for chrome?
[18:16] <SolarisBoy> yea the interactive run would likely help you pin point the error
[18:16] <gaf> no, it  is lts, lucid
[18:16] <gaf> it is still suported as a server
[18:16] <chockey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[18:17] <AcidRain2012> Match user acidrain
[18:17] <AcidRain2012>     ChrootDirectory %h
[18:17] <AcidRain2012>     ForceCommand internal-sftp
[18:17] <AcidRain2012> this seems to be the issue
[18:17] <SolarisBoy> comment it that block and try to restart your service AcidRain2012
[18:17] <gaf> chockey, but i heard some time ago, that only the TLS 10.04 server would have support till 2015. changed?
[18:18] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, when i commented it out. and restarted. it allowed me to connect
[18:18] <SolarisBoy> check your syntax on those lines to ensure it is correct
[18:18] <chockey> gaf: Does look like what the website says, I didn't realize there were separate support cycles for desktop and server
[18:18] <AcidRain2012> but.... im trying to set it up so a user only has access over certain directories
[18:18] <SolarisBoy> i know - there may be a error in that block somewhere
[18:19] <gaf> woa,that is great news, ty
[18:19] <john_doe_jr> I need to grep the Axis P1346 out of the following string: "TAG:VGN0=Axis P1346" …how would I do that?
[18:20] <AcidRain2012> http://www.howtoforge.com/restricting-users-to-sftp-plus-setting-up-chrooted-ssh-sftp-debian-squeeze    SolarisBoy
[18:20] <Karan_linux> Hi anyone fix the rfkill issue that arises in linux.
[18:20] <gaf> what are the risks to have a not very strong passaword for the main user of the computer, the one that uses sudo?
[18:20] <vtux> how can I pinpoint high disk usage?
[18:20] <shark-src> hey guys. I have been trying to install libvips on ubuntu for the last 2 days..
[18:20] <shark-src> almost started to give up.
[18:21] <shark-src> the developer of lbvips says it has header tool in it but I am unable to locate it
[18:21] <chockey> AcidRain2012: What's right before the section of your config you posted?
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> gaf this is support not 50 questions on your eol
[18:21] <chockey> gaf: That someone might break it, do they have ssh access?
[18:21] <chockey> from the outside world that is
[18:21] <Karan_linux> operation not possible due to RF-Kill.
[18:21] <shark-src> can you please help me with figuring out how i locate the the location of the library in my machine.
[18:21] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: do you have the initial Subsystem line in your sshd_config before the match?
[18:21] <AcidRain2012> # See the sshd_config(5) manpage for details
[18:22] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, oh, add at end of file ;) hang on
[18:22] <chockey> AcidRain2012: sorry, the last couple non-comment lines
[18:22] <gaf> well, i log in to my desktop to the server using ssh. actually, i have ssh keys
[18:23] <SolarisBoy> then you could disable password login and be done with it =)
[18:23] <AcidRain2012> ok, it works.
[18:23] <gaf> i done it. i'm just wondering if an attacker could probe my desktop, considering the pass from the desktop is not so strong
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: noice
[18:24] <AcidRain2012> BUT! now i want to give my user access to /var/www/, how can i do this?
[18:24] <AcidRain2012> but i ALSO want my home dir to be /home/acidrain
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> lol wow whole new worm can
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> probably putting the user in the $webuser group and making sure that folder is group owned
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> so like www-data or whatever
[18:25] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: check out setfacl :-)
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> i actually need to do that myself
[18:25] <eurythmia> ... you can use it to set group access on directories without changing the owner
[18:25] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, but! im going to be having some users that will also have access to these files. but i want them to only be able to read, not write. how can i do that?
[18:26] <shark-src> anyone?
[18:26] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: you can also use setfacl to set per-user permissions, assuming that the group/other permissions are locked down hard enough.
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: probably want to look at the setfacl thing eurythmia just put ot htere
[18:26] <universal> any good pdf editor for ubuntu ? pdf editor with pdf printer driver like foxit phantom !
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> !pdf
[18:27] <Marlenee> i run programme in background using "&" at the end of the command but its treminated when the command i run is asking me for conforming somthing any idea
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> universal  try pdfmod or inkscape
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> Marlenee: fg bring it back to foreground
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> universal there is a wiki on whats availble none really al that good
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> Marlenee: jobs command lists jobs index - fg command can take argument of index number to fg a specific job - ultimately one should avoid backgrounding jobs that will require further input (eg using passwordless accss etc)
[18:32] <SolarisBoy> looks like you need to ensure your fs is mounted with the acl option to use setfacl ?
[18:33] <eurythmia>  SolarisBoy, It works ootb for me on ext4 after a fresh raring install.
[18:34] <SolarisBoy> cool thanks eurythmia
[18:35] <eurythmia> no problem :-)
[18:37] <hydruid> Hello Room
[18:37] <hydruid> Can anyone see this?
[18:37] <Marlenee> how to restore a job to background again
[18:37] <SolarisBoy> Marlenee: fg command
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> Marlenee: assuming you have one job in the background type "fg"
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> Marlenee: if you have more than one type "jobs" gather the index of the job you want to foreground and then "fg <index#>"
[18:38] <Marlenee> SolarisBoy : i have more than 3 job running in background using "&" at end of every command
[18:39] <motaka2> hello I had a windows xp and I installed ubuntu in another drive, now I need to reinstall windows , will I loose my dear ubuntu ?
[18:39] <AcidRain2012> is there a gui tool for adding/deleting system users/groups. system-config-users is not in repos
[18:40] <TellMeWhy> motaka2, you will not lose Ubuntu if you do not wipe the drive that has Ubuntu in it.
[18:40] <SolarisBoy> Marlenee: try jobs -l (atleast for zsh) it prints info on the command running - maybe that helps you know which one to operate on.
[18:40] <eurythmia> Marlenee: you can use "jobs" to figure out which one, and then get it back using "%n" where 'n' is the number of the job.
[18:41] <motaka2> TellMeWhy: I remeber the last time I did this, I had a lot of problem to have the list to choose OS in startup , but at that time I had ubuntu 8.04
[18:41] <Marlenee> i type jobs and it print nothing
[18:41] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: I know this is hardly helpful, but is there a specific reason you need a gui? the "passwd" command is pretty easy to use.
[18:41] <SolarisBoy> Marlenee: that has to be in the same terminal session you started the jobs in initially
[18:41] <RoyK> Marlenee: perhaps it forked out
[18:42] <Marlenee> i check my jobs via "ps -aux" and it run in background
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, because i just created a group called ftpusers. and when trying to add me to it sudo usermod -G ftpuser acidrain
[18:42] <Anonynimity> Festar du så festür jag
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> omg. hang on
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> nvm. it worked. left out the s
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> lulz
[18:42] <eurythmia> Marlenee: if jobs doesn't return anything, then there are no jobs running in the background. Apparently your process has quit. Try running it in the foreground and seeing if the program spits out an error message.
[18:43] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: sometimes all you need is to tell someone what's going wrong to figure it out on your own :-)
[18:44] <AcidRain2012>     ChrootDirectory /media/Server2/My_Documents   <--- what is wrong with this line? im getting the connection issue again
[18:44] <AcidRain2012> can i not forward a certain group to 1 directory
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> I think the ownership is pretty specific there you may want to look into that or check debugging to ensure there isn't a hidden permission issue AcidRain2012
[18:47] <AcidRain2012> SolarisBoy, im on it
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> AcidRain2012: look online for documentation on how perms should be setup for SSH based chrooting (i believe i recall having to set them to something before, can't remember what)
[18:47] <Ubuntivity> Hello
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> brb
[18:48] <Ubuntivity> What is the package "mysql-client-5.5" ?
[18:49] <chockey> Ubuntivity: what do you mean?
[18:49] <Ubuntivity> I mean what exactly a MySQL client? Is it needed for every system?
[18:50] <chockey> Oh, probably not. It's the client software for running queries against a MySQL server
[18:50] <Ubuntivity> So, if I don't have a MySQL server on this PC, I wouldn't need it, right?
[18:50] <chockey> correct
[18:50] <deezed> yep
[18:50] <Ubuntivity> Thanks guys, so I'll remove that package
[18:50] <chockey> well, you could connect to mysql servers on other PCs, but if you needed to do that, you would know it
[18:51] <AcidRain2012> chown -R someuser:somegroup /media/Server2/My_Documents did not do the trick. did change the group, but still get denied on logging in
[18:51] <Ubuntivity> I know I wouldn't need it :P
[18:52] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: keep in mind that the user/grou will need read access to /media and /media/Server2 otherwise they'll get EPERM
[18:52] <motaka2> Can I recover my ubuntu grub after installing windows8 ?
[18:52] <AcidRain2012> seriously? :/
[18:53] <eurythmia> ... they *may* also need execute access to those dirs, but I doubt it (they will, however, require rx on /media/Server2/My_Documents)
[18:53] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, how do i stop them from having access to all of my other drives? omg
[18:53] <IdleOne> !grub2 | motaka2
[18:53] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: seriously. The joys of Posix ;-)
[18:53] <RoyK> motaka2: yes, you start up on a live install and run grub-install /dev/sda or whatever the device name is
[18:53] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: by using ACLs insted of changing the owner/group of the directories :-)
[18:54] <motaka2> RoyK: You will be beheaded if I cant get grub back!
[18:54] <eurythmia> ... seriously, I think that ACLs are one of the best things to hapen to unix permissions since sliced bread.
[18:54] <AcidRain2012> ACLs?
[18:54] <AcidRain2012> !ACL
[18:54] <Marlenee> running screen command without any programmes run inside it it make my server slowdown - http://imagebin.org/269029
[18:54] <RoyK> motaka2: not my fault that you fscked up
[18:54] <AcidRain2012> !ACL | here
[18:55] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: ACL == Access Control List ... it's a posix extension to basic unix permissions. That's where getfacl/setfacl (that I mentioned earlier) come in :-)
[18:55] <motaka2> RoyK: Yes Yes your fault be ready go shave your neck, I want a clean neck to cut
[18:55] <AcidRain2012> zomg.
[18:55]  * RoyK wonders if motaka2 is somewhat sane or the other 
[18:56] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, so i have to learn this getfacl/setfacl to avoid having to change groups on all files?
[18:56] <motaka2> RoyK: Easy man just kidding
[18:56] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: the real allure of them is that they allow a directory to be owned by a specific user/group, and you can add permissions for any other user/group without changing that.
[18:56] <Ubuntivity> Just a curious question: if I backup the bootloader using "dd if=/dev/sda of=<myfile> bs=446 count=1" then Install Windows, then restore GRUB using dd, and then update-grub, will that work as a quick (although risky) way to restore GRUB after installing Windows?
[18:57] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: yeah. Don't worry though, it's pretty simple. To add a specific user's permissions run "setfcl -m u:<uid>:rx /path" ... then to check the permissions run "getfacl /path"
[18:57] <Jordan_U> Ubuntivity: Just use grub-install to install grub.
[18:58] <motaka2> Ubuntivity: Are experienced in installing windows after installing ubuntu ? Is that too rosky ?
[18:58] <Ubuntivity> Well, surely it is the better way, Jordan_U. But theoritcally speaking: will my 'risky' method also work?
[18:58] <Jordan_U> Ubuntivity: It might or might not work, depending on many factors.
[18:58] <Ubuntivity> motaka2: I prefer to install Windows before Ubuntu, but I remember I once installed a Windows after Ubuntu and could get the GRUB restored without problems
[18:59] <DJones> Ubuntivity: Not really, because after reinstalling the original, it wouldn't know about thewindows installation, so you then have to recover it
[18:59] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, i changed group permissions on /media, /media/Server2, /media/Server2/My_Documents and got the same error as before. but im going to try what your tlaking about and see hwo it goes
[18:59] <motaka2> Ubuntivity: I want to upgrade, I dont want to loose my ubuntu
[18:59] <Ubuntivity> motaka2: You'll need a LiveCD to restore GRUB and update it to recognize Windows as well
[19:00] <motaka2> I have ubuntu 12.04 Dvd
[19:00] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, ok, if i wanted to setfacl on all files under /media/Server2/My_Documents could you give me an example?
[19:00] <AcidRain2012> i dont want rx. (which i believe x is execute)
[19:00] <Ubuntivity> motaka2: As Jordan_U said, use grub-install.
[19:01] <motaka2> Ubuntivity: Do I have access to terminal when I use ubuntu desktop on live CD ?
[19:02] <AcidRain2012> setfacl -m acidrain:ftpusers:r-- /media/Server2/My_Documents ?
[19:03] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: to give user acidrain read/write access to /media/Server2/MyDocuments : setfacl -m u:acidrain:rw /media/Server2/My_Docuements
[19:03] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: for group ftpusers: setfacl -m g:ftpusers:rw /media/Server2/My_Documents
[19:04] <AcidRain2012> and i dont need to modify sshd_config at all?
[19:04] <Ohmnivore> Hi guys, is it possible to install python 32-bit on 64-bit ubuntu?
[19:05] <AcidRain2012> eh... operation not supported
[19:05] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: for something like that it's best to make sure the directory (in this case: My_Documents) has perms: 0750, and then make sure that the files under that directory have appropriate "user" permissions.
[19:05] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: op not supported? boo! ... what filesystem are you running on?
[19:05] <AcidRain2012> ext3
[19:06] <vtux> gsd
[19:06] <Ubuntivity> motaka2: Surely you have, you can find it in program list, or simply press on Ctrl+T
[19:06] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: ah, that would do it. There may be a way to get acls supported on ext3 (by adding an option in your fstab) ... I know that ext4 supports them by default (and I use ext4)
[19:06] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: pastebin dmesg output
[19:06] <RoyK> !pastebin | AcidRain2012
[19:06] <vtux> vtux:
[19:07] <Marlenee> running screen command without any programmes run inside it it make my server slowdown - http://imagebin.org/269029
[19:07] <AcidRain2012> http://pastebin.com/8pcwux3J
[19:07] <AcidRain2012> RoyK,
[19:07] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: yep ... you just need to add the "acl" option to your fstab: http://wahjava.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/acls-supported-by-ext3-filesystem/
[19:07] <Ubuntivity> motaka2: Ctrl+Alt+T for terminal. Sorry :)
[19:08] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: apparently ext3 has had support for ACLs since at least 2007, it's just not enabled by default.
[19:08] <motaka2> Ubuntivity: I will do this by tomorrow
[19:08] <eurythmia> SolarisBoy: so, you were correct in regards to ext3 :-)
[19:08] <motaka2> Ubuntivity: Thanks
[19:08] <Ubuntivity> motaka2: You are welcome :)
[19:09] <OerHeks> Marlenee, what makes you think that?
[19:09] <motaka2> Ubuntivity: Are you a programmer?
[19:09] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, im scared to touch fstab. lol. my drives mount properly on 12.04 for the first time in my past 7 yrs of ubuntu experience
[19:09] <skeeterb_> I need help getting a USB 802.11N network adapter working. I tried entering it manually, but it didn't work.
[19:10] <Ubuntivity> motaka2: I'm learning Linux Command Line and Java, I'm interested in Computers in general and in Linux in particular
[19:10] <t0ken> Hello all, I've add a 'dns-search' config line to /etc/network/interfaces, how do I make it active, i.e. how do I get that to show up in /etc/resolv.conf without editing it manually?
[19:10] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: I understand. I'll give you a hint to help make it feel safer: keep an ubuntu live USB key around, and then when you change the fstab, keep the old line (just comment it out). That way if things go south, you can boot up in the live usb, mount the filesystem, and revert your fstab, easy-peasy.
[19:10] <t0ken> sudo service networking restart didn't seem to do it
[19:11] <motaka2> Ubuntivity: Cool, Are there too many jobs for programmers in ur country ?
[19:11] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, thx. lemme get all of this setup
[19:11] <Ubuntivity> motaka2: why don't you join me on #ubuntu-offtopic? We can have a nice conversation there ^_^
[19:11] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: no problem. I should be around if you get stuck.
[19:12] <skeeterb_> how do i get Ubuntu to detect my USB wireless network adapter?
[19:13] <Extreminador> guys when you install something do you change the permissions to be able to access/change some of the files ?
[19:13] <Extreminador> is that a good ideia or...
[19:13] <delinquentme> So im running grep and its matching strings in a document which arent actually there?
[19:13] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, UUID=1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183	/media/Server2	ext3	defaults,acl
[19:13] <eurythmia> Extreminador: nope ... not really a good idea.
[19:13] <AcidRain2012> is this what it should look like?
[19:13] <delinquentme> is this related to the internal database thats used in utils like locate  ?
[19:14] <eurythmia> Extreminador: is there something specific? If it's a packaging issue, you should bring it up with the package maintainer.
[19:14] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: that looks sane to me.
[19:14] <Extreminador> speaking in my particlar case about apache and the root directory the "www" how do you do ?
[19:14] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: doesn't look like much trouble
[19:14] <AcidRain2012> so now all i have to do is reboot?
[19:14] <AcidRain2012> RoyK, whats that mean? lol. 'doesnt look like much trouble'?
[19:14] <Extreminador> eurythmia do you yun the editor to change the html/php/etc files as a root ?
[19:15] <Extreminador> *run
[19:15] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: the logs don't show much errors
[19:15] <AcidRain2012> RoyK, why would they show any errors? i dont want any errors at all in my logs
[19:15] <skeeterb_> i need help detecting a USB Wireless adapter in Ubuntu
[19:15] <Whoopsie> hello
[19:15] <eurythmia> Extreminador: no, I usually use a user-sandbox, and then change the site-preferences to point there. I haven't done it in years though, so I couldn't tell you the details.
[19:15] <sideone> ifi i use vi to open all files in a directory, how can i save the current file and move to the next without quitting?
[19:15] <Whoopsie> how to open a port on ubuntu
[19:15] <Whoopsie> i can't use ufw
[19:16] <AcidRain2012> RoyK, UUID=1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183	/media/Server2	ext3	defaults,acl	0	0 <---- better?
[19:16] <Extreminador> humm not sure wht a user-sandbox is but will google
[19:16] <kriskropd> Extreminador: i think he means like a virtual machine or a linux container
[19:17] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: oops, I completely missed the '0 0' that should have been on the end. Nice catch RoyK
[19:17] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: why ext3?
[19:17] <eurythmia> Extreminador: ~/www
[19:17] <aboSamoor> I am trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on surface pro, I am not able to boot to grub, any idea?
[19:17] <eurythmia> Extreminador: basically, when you visit your webpage from localhost: http://localhost/~user/
[19:17] <AcidRain2012> RoyK, because it is an ext3 fs?
[19:17] <AcidRain2012> ..
[19:17] <Extreminador> yehh i was reading about it in wiki i guess he means to edit the page using the local page address instead the file localy
[19:18] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: as in - why not ext4?
[19:18] <Extreminador> it's not a bad idea indeed
[19:18] <kriskropd> aboSamoor: i don't know, but I'll bet it has something to do with either UEFI or corrupted boot manager
[19:18] <AcidRain2012> well.... because 5 yrs ago when i bought this drive, ext4 wasnt out yet
[19:18] <RoyK> ok
[19:18] <RoyK> np ;)
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | abamoorSo
[19:19] <matt_TH> could anyone help me, i want to know if it's possible to delete the ubuntu desktop from ubuntu server 12.04 as i'm practicing on a virtual machine, but it can't handle the desktop..
[19:20] <eurythmia> RoyK, AcidRain2012 : apparently you can migrate a live FS from ext3 to ext4, which is awesome, but the standard disclaimer of "this may eat your files" applies.
[19:20] <AcidRain2012> RoyK, eurythmia ok, im rebooting so these changes can take effect. if something goes wrong and i lose 20+yrs of data, the data loss in on yalls hands. lol
[19:20] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: do you have backup?
[19:21] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: you have the live USB, you should be okay :-)
[19:21] <AcidRain2012> RoyK, i wish i had the money to backup such large hdds
[19:21] <aboSamoor> kriskropd: someone suggested using boot-repair, the problem it is only built for i386 arch!
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> matt_TH: you can boot to a text cli
[19:21] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: how much?
[19:21] <AcidRain2012> lol. eurythmia i have a linux backtrack laptop. ill get the live usb from there if something goes wrong
[19:21] <AcidRain2012> hmmm.... probably at least 5tb
[19:21] <eurythmia> ooh, bt is fun.
[19:22] <RoyK> AcidRain2012: crashplan.com is cheap, but rather slow :P
[19:22] <eurythmia> *whistles* ... that's a lot of data.
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor: bootrepair does not have that limitation
[19:22] <RoyK> eurythmia: heh - in my last job, we had something like 350TiB on ZFS ;)
[19:22] <AcidRain2012> ok, moment of truth. brb
[19:23] <aboSamoor> wilee-nilee: I can not find amd64 debian file, can you help me?
[19:23] <RoyK> avalarion: do you mean package?
[19:23] <AcidRain2012> wtf... comp wont restart. lol
[19:23] <eurythmia> RoyK: that sounds like fun. I love ZFS ... but I haven't really had a practical use for it, so I don't use it (something to do with overhead)
[19:23] <AcidRain2012> may be a sign
[19:24] <eurythmia> RoyK: also, big difference of definitions for "a lot" between work and personal ;-)
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> aboSamor: go to the boot repair wiki and read it, use a live cd to run it
[19:24]  * RoyK only has 7.4TiB for home storage
[19:25]  * eurythmia only has 1.5 TiB for home storage
[19:25] <skeeterb_> i need help detecting a USB Wireless adapter in Ubuntu
[19:25] <tmmunq> zfs looks better for a file server or a for storing backups
[19:25] <eurythmia> skeeterb_: paste lsusb and dmesg
[19:26] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hi for all
[19:26] <eurythmia> !paste | skeeterb_
[19:26] <JoBArTe_Skuld> is allowed questions here?
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> run lspci to find the wifi hardware and post it
[19:26] <AcidRain2012> omfg. acidrain is not in the sudoers file
[19:26] <AcidRain2012> wtf
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> lsusb for a usb wifi
[19:27] <XXOkocha> I am using "sudo update-rc.d apache2 defaults" to try adding apache2 to start on bootup/reboot ... but it does not work
[19:27] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: you should probably fix that.
[19:27] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, how do i fix this/
[19:27] <AcidRain2012> your fstab has hax me
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> !language | AcidRain2012
[19:27] <AcidRain2012> sry
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> sr
[19:27] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: as root (you may need to get another su-doer to do this for you) visudo
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> stop it you do that all the time
[19:28] <aboSamoor> wilee-nilee: there is nothing here for amd64 https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair/+packages
[19:28] <XXOkocha> Any Idea? No log in apache2/error.log
[19:28] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, i feel like im about to have to hack my own system. no one else has root
[19:28] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: ... or you may need to use the live flash drive to mount your root drive, chroot, and visudo there.
[19:28] <eurythmia> ... it's not hacking, it's "recovery" ;-)
[19:29] <AcidRain2012> :/ HAX I TELL U!
[19:29]  * eurythmia chuckles
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:29] <XXOkocha> no body? I just want apache2 to start on boot/restart :(
[19:29] <eurythmia> XXOkocha: have you checked into "service"?
[19:30] <XXOkocha> do you mean service apache2 status?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor: are you using ubuntu or debian
[19:31] <eurythmia> XXOkocha: there should be an option to enable it at boot time as well (i.e. service apache2 enable)
[19:31] <XXOkocha> okay I check that thanks eurythmia
[19:31] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[19:31] <ThePendulum> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop, but the networking panel is not showing. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[19:33] <XXOkocha> eurythmia: cant find that
[19:33] <Extreminador> eurythmia is arkose a good user-sandbox application for what i was speaking about ?
[19:34] <XXOkocha> I am using update-rc.d sofar. .. but it doesnt do anything
[19:34] <aboSamoor> wilee-nilee: I am using ubuntu
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum: network panel?
[19:34] <eurythmia> XXOkocha: you *could* add "service apache2 start" to /etc/rc.local ... but that seems hack-ish to me
[19:35] <ixio> whats easiest way to grant access to one user to another users home directory? user requires rwx
[19:35] <XXOkocha> eurythmia: ya, read about that too but it does in deed feel hack-ish to me too
[19:35] <aboSamoor> wilee-nilee: I can not use the second option, wireless is not working default on surface. Therefore, I want to install the packages manually
[19:35] <ThePendulum> wilee-nilee: The arrow icon in the panel at the top
[19:35] <eurythmia> XXOkocha: if you run "service apache2 start" and reboot, does apache run when you reboot? I seem to recall that some services will automagically enable themselves once run using the service binary.
[19:36] <XXOkocha> no it doesnt
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor: cool that link tells you now to load the app to a live cd, however have you read the uefi wiki?
[19:36] <eurythmia> Extreminador: I was referring to the default user-pages (that I mistakenly called user-sandboxes) that apache provides.
[19:36] <AcidRain2012> eurythmia, is there not a default root user like in backtrack?
[19:36] <AcidRain2012> :/
[19:36] <hellz_> whats the advantage of running the service binary over /etc/init.d/apache2 start ?
[19:36] <eurythmia> XXOkocha: bummer. I'm not sure.
[19:37] <Frank81> hellz there is no advantage
[19:37] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: no, ubuntu disables the root user by default. You need to use sudo to re-enable it (which you can't do if you're not in the sudoers file)
[19:37] <XXOkocha> eurythmia: thanks so far
[19:37] <Frank81> simply use apachectl as your did befor
[19:37]  * Ubuntivity feels that eurythmia has got a reddish name
[19:37] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: Whiskey is why you'll probably need to boot into the live USB and use root from there.
[19:37] <AcidRain2012> lulz
[19:37] <hellz_> i didnt think there was an advantage, however thats the 'recommended' way of doing it now. why?
[19:37] <AcidRain2012> http://www.maketecheasier.com/fixing-sudo-error-in-ubuntu/2012/01/03
[19:37] <eurythmia> Ubuntivity: que?
[19:37] <AcidRain2012> im going to go by this
[19:37] <FloodBot1> AcidRain2012: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <eurythmia> AcidRain2012: I said "Whiskey" ... I actually meant "Which"
[19:38] <eurythmia> ... DYAC
[19:38] <Frank81> hellz coz ubuntu wanna mess with the apache fundation
[19:38] <Ubuntivity> eurythmia: no, just remebered my Hematology class :P
[19:38] <Frank81> thats all
[19:38] <Frank81> they even use distroyed configs :D splited into 100 files since they port it from debian
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor: take a look at this link, this mod is about the best help I have seen on uefi. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[19:39] <Extreminador> eurythmia i didn´t know that apache provide such thing... will google about it thanks
[19:39] <hellz_> and here i thought maybe we were making progress in usability
[19:39] <Frank81> you can simply recompile apache then you have all fixed
[19:39] <eurythmia> Ubuntivity: ahh ... I get it :-)
[19:39] <Frank81> and remove the ubuntu package
[19:40] <Frank81> since it is broken and not supported by apache ^^
[19:40] <ixio> !ot
[19:51] <ben__> hello
[19:51] <ben__> I have a question regarding group/user privledges for transmission-debian, can anyone help me out?
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> !anyone |  ben__
[19:53] <ben__> ben : users owns the folder,    the file, while still in transmission (seeding), is owned by transmission-debian : transmission-debian
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> this is also ubuntu not debian
[19:53] <XXOkocha> Still problems with autostart @ ubuntu 12.04 server
[19:53] <ben__> using the id command, it shows there is no user transmission-debian
[19:53] <ben__> this is on ubuntu
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> cool,
[19:54] <ben__> i can't access the file while it is seeding
[19:54] <ben__> even though the id command shows me as part of the group "transmission-debian"
[19:55] <bilel> how can I have a "buggy kernel" after a fresh ubuntu install, boot repair is reporting this, I first tought it was related to ubuntu 13.04 but I've also reinstalled 12.04 and I've got the same issue, I was previously running ubuntu 12.04 side to side to windows, with grub and it was working perfectly...
[19:55] <ben__> and I set the settings to uid 2 in the settings.json file
[19:55] <bilel> here is the report : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6037768/
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> ben__: is it on your machine or another
[19:56] <ben__> i'm ssh'd into the machine, but its only 5 feet away
[19:56] <ben__> the machine is mine
[19:58] <SuperLag> I have a ThinkPad, and two docks, with a pair of displays connected to each dock. The display orientations are different for each dock. I have scripts generated with arandr that change those configs. Is there any way that I can have the configurations either remembered or detected, and kick off automatically when I connect them to the corresponding dock?
[19:59] <ben__> the folder is set as drwxr--r--+, owned by transmission:transmission,   but using id it claims that transmission is not a user, and for my associated groups it lists me as part of the trasnmission group...   it won't let me view the folder for some reason while its seeding
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> bilel: any number of reasons for a buggy kernel, what makes you think the bootinfo script is relevant. Describe the problem if you have .not in detail
[19:59] <diatorker> join #ubuntu-fr
[20:00] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: how goes it, man?
[20:00] <isk8ufsusd> if anyone could help me with what i think is a simple problem that would be great.   I have a second drive in my ubuntu machine that doesn't mount automatically when the computer is started.  I use it as a network drive and it is a pain to have to open the root folder on this second drive before I can network into it.  I hope that makes sense and any help is much appreciated.
[20:00] <ChogyDan> !fstab | isk8ufsusd
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> in the words of buckwheat all eddie murphy otay
[20:01] <isk8ufsusd> will check that out.  thanks
[20:01] <SuperLag> :D
[20:02] <bilel> wilee-nilee: I just found an explanation... since this summer ubuntu 12.04 has switched to linux kernel 3.8, what I had installed previously was ubuntu >12.04<12.04 .3, and I didn't have this buggy kernel issue, do you know how can I find this ubuntu version again? on the website it's not present anymore, only 13.04 and 12.04.3
[20:03] <ben__> any advice for not being able to access a folder that transmission has downloaded and is currently seeding (I set it up so it has its own username, added it to the same group as my name, and changed setting.json file uid setting to 2 instead of 18.... I thought I had everything set up right, but recently files/folders don't show up on windows shares until after removed from transmission, and SSH'd into the machine, I can't open the fo
[20:03] <tmmunq> apt-get install linux-image-3.5-something
[20:05] <ixio> if I want to chroot a user to a directory, I need to make root the owner right? but I also want that directory to be accesible by the groups in the ACL list.. is that going to work ?
[20:06] <ixio> or is it easier to just chroot multiple users to the same directory and not worry abotu groups and ACL's ?
[20:08] <ben__> ixio: try looking how to set up folder for transmission
[20:08] <ixio> transmission?
[20:09] <ben__> I'm having an issue with folder permissions too, but that explains how to change owners and add multiple owners to a group so they still have access
[20:09] <XXOkocha> ubuntu update-rc.d still not workng at all
[20:09] <ben__> transmission = torrent program
[20:09] <XXOkocha> any idea?
[20:09] <bilel> tmmunq: was it for me?
[20:09] <ben__> it has to run under it's own username
[20:10] <ChogyDan> XXOkocha: doesn't apache start by default already?
[20:10] <XXOkocha> no it doesnt
[20:10] <XXOkocha> mysql either
[20:10] <ben__> so you have to add transmission to your group or the other way around, your username to the transmission group... in order for transmission to own the folder and you still have access
[20:10] <ChogyDan> XXOkocha: when I played with LAMP, it just worked
[20:11] <XXOkocha> ChogyDan:  but there still has to be a mechanism ... ?!
[20:11] <ChogyDan> XXOkocha: I would assume that the package comes with an upstart config that does it
[20:12] <isk8ufsusd> ok so I have found my drives UUID but the rest of the editing to the fstab file makes no sense to me.  Anyone help?
[20:12] <ben__> ixio: but there is plenty of information about changing the owner of a folder and still allowing access by other groups  if you look up how to configure transmission, as that is how the program needs to run
[20:12] <ben__> isk8ufsusd: use the drive already in there as an example
[20:12] <ben__> and make a backup of the fstab file
[20:12] <ben__> first
[20:13] <ben__> isk8ufsusd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[20:14] <ChogyDan> XXOkocha: maybe check the apache2 package, it claims to have it
[20:14] <XXOkocha> -> update-rc.d doesnt work either
[20:15] <XXOkocha> what could be the reason?
[20:15] <bilel> anybody knows how to install ubuntu 12.04.2, I can't find anything on the website, I've tried http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso without success...
[20:16] <deezed> bilel: have you tried with a live cd?
[20:17] <NickRice> none of my workspaces are showing up in ubuntu 13.04?  or is that in 12.04 only?
[20:17] <deezed> bilel: I cant open this link
[20:17] <histo> XXOkocha: What are you trying to accomplish?
[20:18] <deezed> NickRice: in 13.04 it work perfectly as well, since I remember
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> bilel  try this link http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[20:18] <Mattx> hey, hi
[20:18] <deezed> NickRice: are you using unity?
[20:18] <NickRice> i pushed ctrl + alt + right , etc. and it doesnt switch to any other workspaces, i am running this in vbox
[20:18] <Mattx> the screen on this laptop in which I am looks opaque even though the brightness is full in settings (Gnome)
[20:18] <XXOkocha> histo: I want to add mysql and apache2 to "autostart"
[20:18] <Mattx> is there anything I can do?
[20:19] <histo> XXOkocha: How did you install apache2?
[20:19] <bilel> MonkeyDust: yep it's at the bottom, I've found it! http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.2/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso :)
[20:19] <Mattx> white is alsmot light blue
[20:19] <isk8ufsusd> i'm just not that techy ben.  i think i may have got it.  restarting now to see what happens
[20:19] <XXOkocha> histo: I didnt do it ...
[20:19] <XXOkocha> just maintaining it
[20:19] <histo> XXOkocha: Is it installed?
[20:20] <XXOkocha> histo: yes and working
[20:20] <histo> XXOkocha: and what version of ubuntu?
[20:20] <deezed> NickRice: uhm, maybe you didnt configure your workspaces yet
[20:20] <NeverHere`> Say is there an offtopic channel for this one?
[20:20] <deezed> NickRice: you have to set how many workspaces do you want before you can switch maybe
[20:20] <histo> XXOkocha: And what command are you using?
[20:20] <XXOkocha> histo 12:04
[20:21] <histo> XXOkocha: And what command are you using?
[20:21] <deezed> NeverHere`: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:21] <NeverHere`> thansk deezed
[20:21] <XXOkocha> histo: update-rc.d mysql defaults & update-rc.d apache2 defaults
[20:21] <deezed> NeverHere`: np
[20:23] <histo> XXOkocha: That should be it then. Assuming you have scripts in /etc/init.d/
[20:23] <ThePendulum> I am using Ubuntu 13.04, and my flash drives are shy... They stopped showing up
[20:23] <ThePendulum> Any ideas?
[20:23] <XXOkocha> yes I do.. and there is good looking output but If I do a reboot nothings started
[20:24] <histo> XXOkocha: What if you start the service manually does it start without a problem?
[20:24] <ChogyDan> ThePendulum: I would start by seeing if they show up under `lsusb`
[20:24] <hexacode> anyone here had problems with ssh into an amazon ubuntu instance?  my ssh just sits there not responding...i used   ssh -i ~/Downloads/instance.pem ubuntu@instancedomain.tld
[20:24] <visualise> hi
[20:24] <XXOkocha> histo: yes it does
[20:24] <histo> XXOkocha: Please pastebin the output from update-rc.d
[20:25] <ThePendulum> ChogyDan: Doesn't seem to be the case
[20:25] <histo> XXOkocha: alsoo the output from lsb_release -a
[20:25] <histo> ThePendulum: dmesg
[20:26] <XXOkocha> http://pastebin.com/QYrZAATC
[20:26] <ThePendulum> histo: Seems to show up. Not sure if that's it, but I assume so.
[20:26] <ThePendulum> histo: No, I was mistaken
[20:26] <ThePendulum> It shows up whether or not it's plugged in, so I wasn't looking right
[20:26] <ChogyDan> ThePendulum: you should plug it in, and then see if there are errors at the end of dmesg
[20:26] <histo> ThePendulum: dmesg -c to clear the log remove the drive and plug it in, then check dmesg output again.
[20:27] <XXOkocha> histo: http://pastebin.com/QYrZAATC
[20:28] <ThePendulum> ChogyDan, histo: All dmesg says about it: http://pastebin.com/e2kpGg4L
[20:28] <ThePendulum> ChogyDan, histo: It does show up in gparted, btw
[20:30] <XXOkocha> histo: after rebooting: mysql status -> mysql stop/waiting
[20:31] <ChogyDan> ThePendulum: i dunno, soz!
[20:31] <histo> XXOkocha: why are you using -f enable?
[20:31] <ThePendulum> Ugh. I guess I will just have to turn it off and on again.
[20:31] <XXOkocha> I did defaults too
[20:32] <histo> ThePendulum: perhaps fuse or gvfs or whatever ubuntu is using nowadays went bonkers. You can manually mount, restart those services, or reboot.
[20:33] <histo> XXOkocha: I don't see enable being an opption for update-rc.d
[20:34] <XXOkocha> histo: I got it from superadmin ... I did a -f remove and a default and still not running
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> !torrents
[20:35] <ChogyDan> XXOkocha: have you posted your /var/log/boot.log yet?
[20:35] <histo> XXOkocha: it's defaults
[20:36] <XXOkocha> http://pastebin.com/wntygia4
[20:36] <histo> XXOkocha: Who installed this system as the default behavior is for apache and mysql to start on boot?
[20:36] <XXOkocha> histo: thats the boot.log
[20:36] <XXOkocha> histo: my boss did it ... I got to fix it now
[20:36] <histo> XXOkocha: do you see line 44
[20:37] <histo> XXOkocha: well purge and reinstall apache and mysql then.
[20:37] <XXOkocha> thats apache2
[20:37] <histo> XXOkocha: yes
[20:37] <histo> XXOkocha: do you see the line 38
[20:38] <histo> XXOkocha: So apache2 is startign fine mysql is not
[20:38] <iceroot_> when i remove an external display from my laptop (extended screen) some of the windows are still on the extended screen and i cant reach them. is there an x-server-command to move all windows to a specific screen? with xrandr i am able to disable the second screen but still some windows are on that screen
[20:38] <XXOkocha> oh yeah, lne 38
[20:39] <histo> XXOkocha: so there is a problem with s20mysql in /etc/rc2.d/
[20:39] <histo> XXOkocha: sorry /etc/rc3.d/
[20:39] <histo> most likely
[20:40] <Dakk> If i installed ubutntu from a USB "alongside windows 7", is it on the same hdd as windows? I was not given the option of wich OS to start during boot-up
[20:40] <Dakk> :/
[20:40] <XXOkocha> histo: but whats wrong there? S20mysql -> ../init.d/mysql
[20:41] <Dakk> If i installed ubutntu from a USB "alongside windows 7", is it on the same hdd as windows? I was not given the option of wich OS to start during boot-up
[20:41] <Dakk> :/
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> Dakk, You need to deit grub for that.
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> edit*
[20:42] <Dakk> and how would i go and do that? :)
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> !grub
[20:43] <Dakk> I could not get into grub at all i  would guess. Windfows booted by itself and i could not choose ubuntu
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> Dakk, this is a partitioned install not a wubi?
[20:44] <Dakk> i downloaded from ubuntu website, fixed onto a usb, and installed. I installed it "dummy" way, no advanced stuff...
[20:45] <NeverHere`> Dakk, when you installed did you boot to the USB or did you install it while runining windows?
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> Dakk, THis link gives you two ways to set the default boot. http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[20:45] <Extreminador> eurythmia i can´t find many information about the apache "sandbox" sow i think i will install a vserver. if i understood correctly that will do the same
[20:45] <Dakk> i booted to the usb.
[20:46] <Dakk> NeverHere
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> Dakk, you are seeing the grub menu right?
[20:46] <NeverHere`> Dakk, did you run a UEFI system?
[20:46] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Dakk
[20:46] <Dakk> no, didn't get anything when i booted after i installed ubuntu, it went straight to windows. I have UEFI, yes
[20:46] <Jordan_U> Dakk: You'll need to run boot info scrip while booted into the liveUSB.
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> Dakk, ah uefi, run that app Jordan_U has posted.
[20:47] <NeverHere`> ;)
[20:47] <Dakk> boot script+ Wilee-Nilee
[20:47] <Dakk> ?*
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> Dakk, yes just the script to start with.
[20:47] <Dakk> k, i'll see what i can do
[20:47] <Dakk> I'löl come back if it does not work ;)
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> Dakk, I can't help you with uefi but others can.
[20:48] <skeeterb_> ok I did the lsusb command and it shows it detects the wireless adapter. how do i get it to be detected as a network adapter?
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> skeeterb_, tell us the hardware
[20:50] <herbaliser> anybody that can help on recovering RAID1
[20:50] <skeeterb_> the output of the LSUSB command for the wirelessapter is BUS 001 Device 004: ID 148f:3070 RaLink Technology, Corp RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
[20:50] <RoyK> herbaliser: try to google it first - raid recovery
[20:51] <herbaliser> done that it is more recovering RAID 1 when i have io read error
[20:52] <herbaliser> a disk failed i replaced the disk and rebuild the array on my md2 partition the recovery stops at IO read error after 60%, seems like the ohter disks contains an IO read error and i am unable to rebuild
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> skeeterb_, Here are some threads you need a driver and wrapper I believe, these are problematic for some I would get a plug and play usb if it were me. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RT2870%2FRT3070
[20:53] <herbaliser> i have run fsck on the raid report clean, smartctl reports clean
[20:54] <bekks> herbaliser: Run fsck -f too.
[20:54] <herbaliser> no the f option i did not try
[20:55] <herbaliser> forcing it
[20:55] <bekks> herbaliser: The -f option will force a check, even if the superblock states that the fs is clean.
[20:55] <eegore> is there a way to use a photo image of a group of photos as a login password?
[20:55] <herbaliser> ok i will give it a try
[20:56] <herbaliser> reboot to rescue mode then :)
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> eegore, the login password is your user password you need it it several other places.
[20:56] <NeverHere`> I want to transfer some files off my server (12.04 LTS) but when i plug in my USB HDD it doesn't show up anywhere...anyone know how to find it? i tried tailing the syslog to see where it mounts but it doesn't seem to mount.
[20:57] <eegore> yes but after hashcat, I doubt that is safe anymore when I travel
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> NeverHere`, does it show with sudo fdisk -l
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> eegore, What are you talking about>
[20:58] <eegore> http://hashcat.net/hashcat/
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> eegore, Never had a problem with passwords myself, a picture is nothing I have seen in linux.
[20:59] <NeverHere`> wilee-nilee, kinda sorta it doesn't show where it is mounted at
[21:00] <ziadingo1> test
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> NeverHere`/media/user/
[21:01] <NeverHere`> wilee-nilee, no such file or directory
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> NeverHere`Its in the root computer area
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> with a dektop anyway
[21:02] <NeverHere`> wilee-nilee, media only has cdrom, floppy, and floppy 0 in it
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> NeverHere`, not sure thean
[21:03]  * genii sips and ponders a 3 1/2" floppy + 5 1/4" floppy
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> NeverHere`, This a ubuntu server, there is #ubuntu-server
[21:04] <NeverHere`> thanks wilee-nilee ill try that
[21:04] <histo> !mount | NeverHere`
[21:04] <histo> NeverHere`: mount /dev/of/disk /to/some/directory
[21:04] <NeverHere`> histo, i tried mount, there is nothing to mount
[21:05] <histo> NeverHere`: sure there is the partition on yoru usb hdd
[21:05] <histo> NeverHere`: lsblk  will show you
[21:05] <genii> Some usb sticks register as CD device
[21:06] <genii> ( U3 )
[21:06] <NeverHere`> histo, it says its under /dev/sdb but when i do mount /dev/sdb it says can't find in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[21:07] <histo> NeverHere`: well you can't mount /dev/sdb  you could mount /dev/sdb1 or 2 etc... you need to use sudo also
[21:07] <histo> NeverHere`: sdb is the device sdb1 is the first partition on that device
[21:08] <Jordan_U> NeverHere`: You also didn't pass a mountpoint, which is the directory where you'd like the files to be accessible from.
[21:08] <histo> NeverHere`: mount /dev/sdb1 /some/directory
[21:08] <sett_> hello
[21:08] <NeverHere`> histo, dumb question does it have to be an excisting dir?
[21:09] <genii> NeverHere`: Yes
[21:09] <histo> NeverHere`: yes
[21:09] <NeverHere`> awesome
[21:09] <NeverHere`> thanks a bunch guys
[21:10] <FIXME-SPM> hai
[21:10] <FIXME-SPM> is it possible to install an os on a hdd with lots of dead blocks?
[21:10] <FIXME-SPM> basically it installs, but doesn't boot
[21:12] <Guest91671> FIXME-SPM, Not if you want it to be worthwhile
[21:12] <genii> FIXME-SPM: If some of the dead blocks are in the MBR then you have to do a lowlevel format of the drive first with an utility from the manufacturer
[21:12] <genii> ( which will remap everything so an intact MBR exists again )
[21:12] <histo> FIXME-SPM: Why would you want to do that?
[21:13] <FIXME-SPM> well it was just a question to see if it's feasible, otherwise we'll swap out the hdd
[21:13] <genii> FIXME-SPM: That the drive has lots of bad areas doesn't inspire confidence
[21:13] <AcidRain2012> a user gave me the advice to: sudo setfacl -m g:ftpusers:r /media/Server2/My_Documents  to allow all users of this group to read files from this location on my sftp server. its not allowing me to login when i do this. if i set the ChrootDirectory to /home, it works fine
[21:13] <AcidRain2012> any solutions>
[21:13] <AcidRain2012> ?*
[21:17] <Emery> How do I use root on ubuntu
[21:17] <Emery> i need the root account
[21:17] <histo> !sudo | Emery
[21:17] <Emery> no
[21:17] <Emery> root
[21:17] <Emery> not sudo
[21:17] <histo> Emery: no learn to use sudo
[21:17] <Emery> no
[21:17] <histo> !root | Emery
[21:17] <Emery> i want to use root
[21:17] <Emery> sudo sucks
[21:17] <Guest91671> Emery, Use a linux distro that is made to run in root ubuntu is not.
[21:17] <Emery> is that a tutorial
[21:17] <histo> Emery: Why do you think you need to use root?
[21:17] <Emery> for using root
[21:18] <Sera`> Apologies if I'm straying from the topic here. I thought this might be an interesting place to ask. I'm soon to be going into my final year of university, and for my final year, I'm going to be building a firewall, using IPTables and scripting. I'm looking at useability. Anybody any advice for a Ubuntu newbie?
[21:18] <histo> Emery: for what?
[21:18] <Emery> tutorial for enabling root account
[21:18] <Emery> Anyone got a tutorial for enabling root account on ubuntu ?
[21:19] <Sera`> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/09/ubuntu-tips-how-to-login-using-su-command-su-gives-authentication-failure-error-message/
[21:19] <Guest91671> Emery, There is not one for ubuntu is designed not to run in root period.
[21:19] <histo> Emery: If you don't realize how root is disabled you don't need it.
[21:19] <Emery> I need root
[21:19] <histo> Emery: For what?
[21:19] <Sera`> Emery, see the link I posted.
[21:19] <Emery> for my personal preference
[21:19] <histo> Emery: sudo -i
[21:19] <Emery> ubuntu server runs root out the box
[21:19] <Emery> dont bs
[21:20] <Ralvy> use sudo :D
[21:20] <Emery> fuck sudo man
[21:20] <histo> Emery: no it doesn't
[21:20] <Ralvy> Why?
[21:20] <histo> !language | Emery
[21:20] <Emery> cause its shit
[21:20] <Ralvy> Sudo is more secure
[21:20] <k1l_> !language | Emery
[21:20] <Emery> secure my ass
[21:20] <histo> !ohmy | Emery
[21:20] <Ralvy> XD
[21:20] <RoyK> Emery: please just use sudo -i
[21:20] <HL521> !language | Emery
[21:20] <Ralvy> Hi HL!
[21:20] <HL521> Ralvy: what do you want
[21:20] <BT5> hello
[21:21] <histo> BT5: hello
[21:23] <Sera`> Does anyone here ahve any good links ot IPTables tutorials and how to design firewalls using them?
[21:24] <Paranoia> how to install Ubuntu 32bit on PPC architecture
[21:24] <Paranoia> i KNOW it works
[21:24] <ixio> is it possible to create a sym link to a directory that will work from SFTP?
[21:24] <Emery1> sorry guys
[21:24] <histo> !ufw | Sera`
[21:24] <ixio> I want a "shortcut" in the users home dir
[21:24] <Paranoia> how to install Ubuntu 32bit on PPC architecture?????
[21:24] <Sera`> THanks Histo.
[21:25] <histo> Paranoia: I believe they dropped ppc
[21:25] <Sera`> You've done me a BIG favor :)
[21:25] <Paranoia> But
[21:25] <Paranoia> I know it works
[21:25] <Paranoia> how do you use root?
[21:25] <auronandace> !ppc | Paranoia
[21:25] <RoyK> Sera`: you could use ufw, though
[21:25] <histo> Paranoia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[21:26] <Paranoia> But i know PPC works
[21:26] <Sera`> UFW? Got some info on that please RoyK?
[21:26] <sett_> anyone know how to make my hdd never sleep?
[21:26] <histo> !sudo | Paranoia You use sudo
[21:26] <Paranoia> sum1 tell me how
[21:26] <Emery1> Paranoia, you can install 32bit on PPC
[21:26] <Paranoia> come on bros i know it works
[21:26] <Emery1> ive done it before
[21:26] <RoyK> !ufw | Sera`
[21:26] <Paranoia> SEE!?
[21:26] <histo> Paranoia: ubottu has given you several links
[21:26] <Paranoia> HOW U DO IT!@
[21:26] <Emery1> you need root account
[21:26] <Sera`> XD Ah right right, missed that link first time.
[21:26] <Emery1> to install on PPC
[21:26] <Paranoia> What is root!?
[21:26] <Emery1> you have to use sudo
[21:26] <Emery1> they say
[21:26] <Emery1> but i prefer root
[21:26] <Paranoia> SUDO!? is that a game?
[21:27] <Emery1> yes
[21:27] <Emery1> sudo apt-get install PPC
[21:27] <Paranoia> like numbers and stuff
[21:27] <Emery1> tht will work
[21:27] <histo> omg
[21:27] <Sera`> Ah, yeah, UFW probably wouldn't work with me, as I'm trying to design and build my own firewall with scripting using the IPTables. It's for my dissertation.
[21:27] <k1l_> Paranoia: dont liksten to him
[21:27] <RoyK> Paranoia: it's the game of not having a common root password
[21:27] <Paranoia> but
[21:27] <histo> Sera`: did you see the link from ubottu about iptables?
[21:27] <Paranoia> how how do use root? i heard u hack with root
[21:27] <histo> Sera`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[21:27] <Paranoia> true this is?
[21:27] <rebel> hi
[21:28] <brandasmig> O_o
[21:28] <k1l_> !ppc | Paranoia
[21:28] <histo> Paranoia: do you have a ubuntu related question?
[21:28] <Sera`> I did indeed, I'll probably start working with that. For this, would you agree iut's best to use Ubuntu for this, RoyK, or shoudl I use Unix, which is what my university uses in its labs.
[21:28] <RoyK> Sera`: you can use ufw for the basics and add your own rules in the scripts
[21:28] <Paranoia> sum1 tell me how to root with unbuntu
[21:28] <k1l_> Paranoia: you were given alot of links now. please read them first!
[21:28] <Paranoia> i wan leet uber hacker
[21:28] <Sera`> Ah, right, that's convenient. I assumed it was an "all-in-one" sort of thing.,
[21:28] <rebel> I'm wondering how to install Ubuntu on Fat16?
[21:29] <RoyK> Sera`: for a dedicated firewall, I'd use pfSense or something other than doing it from scratch with ubuntu
[21:29] <histo> rebel: why on earth
[21:29] <HL521> Yeah, Paranoia was a troll, right?
[21:29] <raub> rebel: any reason to put it in fat16?
[21:29] <rebel> Are you thinking NTFS instead?
[21:29] <histo> HL521: yes part of emery
[21:29] <k1l_> HL521: yes and the emery guy. but lets move on
[21:29] <karmabis> I actually came to get help with my NTFS formatted driver
[21:29] <k1l_> rebel: you dont want to do this
[21:29] <qwannn> how to stop the update manager in jaunty jackalope
[21:29] <RoyK> Sera`: pfSense has a good gui that lets you do all the interesting stuff easy
[21:30] <karmabis> can someone help me
[21:30] <Sera`> RoyK: Would I still get the same academic values in teh send of learning from using pfSense though?
[21:30] <histo> !eol | qwannn
[21:30] <Sera`> *the sense of.
[21:30] <karmabis> It just gives me an error and says "invalid partition"
[21:30] <RoyK> Sera`: if it's about learning iptables, no
[21:31] <raub> pfsense is bsd based, right?
[21:31] <RoyK> Sera`: pfSense is the easy way - looking into ufw's iptables rules may be easier
[21:31] <RoyK> raub: yes
[21:31] <RoyK> raub: freebsd
[21:31] <Sera`> RoyK: Yeah, the main thing is about learning about the IPTables and the infrastructure of it. I need to build a firewall and write my ownscripts for it and such, and then slap a GUI on it afterwards.
[21:31] <raub> so that explains the pf in the name then
[21:31] <Sera`> RoyK: What language/program would you recommend for designing the GUI
[21:31] <RoyK> Sera`: then start with ufw and look at the built-in rules
[21:31] <qwannn> thanks, i just want to take this manager off
[21:31] <Sera`> Alright, makes a lot of sense.
[21:31] <RoyK> Sera`: anything, really
[21:32] <RoyK> Sera`: php, python - whatever
[21:32] <histo> !details | karmabis
[21:32] <histo> Sera`: untangle ftw
[21:32] <Sera`> RoyK: I was thinking either Python, or perhaps something Java based, as I already have a lot of previous experience in Java. I'm just unsure, would I be able to design a GUI that runs properly with Java and can run the scripts I write?
[21:32] <Sera`> histo: Thanks, I'll look into untangle.
[21:33] <RoyK> Sera`: 'cept java is evil :P
[21:33] <Sera`> histo: I see it's web-based. Does that mean it would be a web-based GUI also?
[21:33] <karmabis> can someone help me why Ubuntu won't install on my NTFS drive?
[21:33] <Sera`> RoyK: Yeah, I definitely agree there :D
[21:33] <karmabis> I tried FAT32 also
[21:33] <RoyK> Sera`: you can do most things from a gui
[21:33] <histo> Sera`: untangle is very easy to use.
[21:33] <histo> karmabis: Why are you trying to install on ntfs or fat32?
[21:34]  * RoyK sniggers
[21:34] <Sera`> histo, RoyK: That's good. I'm trying to get it where I'm learning a new design method and about IPTables, without having to overdo it and not have time for my other university works. So if it's a simple thing to use, that would be perfect.
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> karmabis, YOu have to have a ext type partition ext4 is commonly used.
[21:34] <karmabis> becuase I want to keep my windows partition too
[21:34] <RoyK> Sera`: just look at what ubuntu has done first, you may learn something from that
[21:34] <Emery> hi how do i just bot a raspbery pi
[21:34] <histo> Sera`: http://www.untangle.com/
[21:34] <Emery> how do i install windows on it
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> karmabis, You have to have a unallocated space for linux partitions.
[21:35] <RoyK> Emery: lol
[21:35] <tjbiddle> Can anyone here with an Ubuntu 13 box tell me what version of php it ships with?
[21:35] <histo> Emery: you don't seeing as there isn't an arm version
[21:35] <raub> karmabis: if youjust want to run ubuntu, you could also run in a vm
[21:35] <histo> !install | karmabis
[21:35] <histo> !dualboot | karmabis
[21:35] <jrib> tjbiddle: http://packages.ubuntu.com and there's just ubuntu 13.04, no 13
[21:35] <karmabis> is there any way I can run it on swap?
[21:35] <tjbiddle> jrib: I know. I just couldn't remember if it was 13.04 or 13.10 so i shortened.
[21:35] <Sera`> RoyK: Thanks, I'll try that. I need to install Ubuntu onto my netbook first anyway, via USB key. Do you think there might be driver issues on teh Acer Aspire One series for its wireless card?
[21:36] <raub> karmabis: huh?
[21:36] <tjbiddle> jrib: Thanks for the link!
[21:36] <histo> karmabis: burn an installation dvd it will walk you through creating a dualboot setup
[21:36] <jrib> tjbiddle: 13.04 = 2013 april
[21:36] <k1l_> tjbiddle: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:36] <RoyK> Sera`: I have one - works well on ubuntu
[21:36] <tjbiddle> jrib: Ew, it's not semantic on the minor number at least? *cringes*. Good to know though, thank you!
[21:36] <histo> !info php | tjbiddle
[21:36] <tjbiddle> !info php5
[21:36] <Sera`> Royk: Well that's good to know. Perchance you could link me to somewhere that holds the drivers?
[21:36] <tjbiddle> Beautiful, thanks histo!
[21:36] <karmabis> raub install on my swap partition
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> Sera`, I have a aspireone d250 no deiver needed
[21:37] <histo> karmabis: why do you have a swap partition?
[21:37] <RoyK> Sera`: I've heard the newer ones with UEFI have some issues, though
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> karmabis, read the install and dualboot links then ask questions.
[21:37] <Sera`> wilee-nilee: Oh, right. That's good then. My model is from 2011, I'll double check about the UEFI. It did have an android distro on it though that I had to scrap.
[21:37] <RoyK> Sera`: drivers should be in 13.04 already
[21:37] <Sera`> RoyK: That's useful.
[21:38] <karmabis> wait what's a dual boot?
[21:38] <RoyK> Sera`: is it an UEFI box?
[21:38] <karmabis> can I do that on a RAID system?
[21:38] <histo> karmabis: yes, make up your mind.
[21:38] <RoyK> karmabis: what?
[21:38] <Sera`> RoyK: Not that I'm aware of, no.
[21:38] <RoyK> Sera`: then it should work fine - try with a live install first
[21:39] <raub> I would suggest karmabis to put ubuntu in a vm and be done with it. Then he can come back and play with dual boot
[21:39] <histo> Sera`: What processor is in it?  There are issues with linux and the intel Atom z2760 CPU
[21:39] <Sera`> RoyK: But I'll need to double check, just to be sure. And yeah, that's the plan. Is installing from a USB straight forward?
[21:39] <karmabis> someone said something about setting up RAID on ubuntu, does that mean im in trouble with the police ?
[21:39] <RoyK> Sera`: just try the live install first
[21:39] <RoyK> Sera`: check if wireless or whatever is working  -  if it works, install
[21:39] <Sera`> histo: It might be the z2760 actually. I'll double check that now. RoK: By Live you mean download from teh Windows OS?
[21:40] <Sera`> OOOOH RIGHT
[21:40] <Sera`> RoyK: I get you now.
[21:40] <histo> Sera`: if it is, You cannot run linux on it.
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> Sera`, Straight forward is an opinion, we don't rely on those here basically
[21:40] <herbaliser> i have replace a failed disk in raid 1 i have adde the new disk sda to the raid but after 56% percent rebuil(root partition) fails with unrecoverable Read I/O error for block. i have fun fsck anf fsck -f on the sdb disk.
[21:40] <Sera`> wilee-nilee: Why does that not surprise? :P
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> Sera`, Your definition will be different then others details are the norm here.
[21:41] <herbaliser> any idea how i can get the mirror in sync
[21:42] <Sera`> wilee-nilee: Again, that doesn't surprise. Mind you, I'm open to any opinions and help, as I've never truly dealt with Uvuntu properly before, or the Linux kernels in general.
[21:42] <histo> Sera`: What is your question?
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> Sera`, We don't answer to opinions, at least not a user you want actual help from.
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> its not a rocket science idea
[21:43] <Sera`> histo, wilee-nille: Got a link about installing form USB if I don't use a LIVE install?
[21:43] <herbaliser> any ohter tools i can run to fix the io read errors on the sdb disk
[21:43] <histo> herbaliser: not if the disk is failing
[21:43] <qwannn> i found a solution to my problem "gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false" :P
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> qwannn, what release dconf is used these days
[21:44] <herbaliser> histo i have asked the hardware supprot to check the disk and they do not report any errors on sdb only sda failed
[21:44] <qwannn> jaunty jackalope 9.04
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> qwannn, that is way beyond end of life.
[21:44] <qwannn> my laptop is very old for unity
[21:45] <Hammerhead2011-S> Hi all, if I have entries in the /etc/network/interfaces file for all of my interfaces why am I getting the "waiting up to 60 more seconds" crap?
[21:45] <herbaliser> histo also smartctl is nor reporting any errors on the disk or i am running the wrong tests
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> qwannn, There are tons of desktops, you want a supported install that actually calls the repos.
[21:46] <qwannn> why i still have repostories
[21:46] <qwannn> why i still have repositories
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> qwannn, Not the main ubuntu ones, and that is not supported here.
[21:48] <qwannn> but this is the linux freedom
[21:48] <qwannn> i like the old gnome
[21:48] <qwannn> i can ubgrade only the linux core
[21:50] <iam1984> Hello, I urgently need help installing lubuntu. I am not unfamiliar with installing linux but this is an unusual circumstance. If anyone is willing to help me please say so. It will take me awhile to explain the situation.
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> iam1984, State the issues for help.
[21:51] <Ben64> iam1984: its best if you ask the question, or explain it first. we don't know if we can help you without the information
[21:51] <iam1984> Thanks, hold on.
[21:53] <Vivekananda> do we have oracle db in the repos ?
[21:53] <bekks> Vivekananda: No.
[21:53] <Vivekananda> for 12.04
[21:53] <Vivekananda> bekks: so I will need to install it manually :(
[21:54] <bekks> Vivekananda: And besides that, Ubuntu is not certified for running Oracle RDBMS at all. You are on your own.
[21:54] <DrDigital> i doubt there is anything like this, but my 7 year old has ubuntu on his computer… is there any way i could disable the login and have bell math problems (you know 1+2  7+6 8-2 etc) and once he answers 100 correctly it allows him full access to the computer
[21:54] <Hammerhead2011-S> Great Idea.....
[21:55] <DrDigital> oh you want to watch youtube? well you got to do math first
[21:55] <DrDigital> I'm sorry, but thats the password
[21:55] <DrDigital> if only it could do spelling words too
[21:55] <Hammerhead2011-S> haha and he'll never know....well until some kids tells him and he rebels....
[21:55] <Sera`> DrDigital: How would it ask him to spell a word? :P
[21:56] <DrDigital> i could rebel harder… i do own a sludge hammer
[21:56] <DrDigital> i know
[21:56] <DrDigital> i said to bad
[21:56] <Sera`> "Spell Hello" ..... erm.... ok "Hello"
[21:56] <bekks> Sera`: Could be a library for PAM.
[21:56] <DrDigital> it have to be verbal
[21:56] <FloodBot1> DrDigital: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:56] <Sera`> bekks: Touché
[21:57] <Vivekananda> bekks: :( I have mysql installed already
[21:57] <Vivekananda> but I dont know how to get the maven dependencies for maven so I thought of using maven
[21:57] <histo> herbaliser: where are you getting the io error?
[21:57] <herbaliser> kern.log
[21:58] <aurax> hello peeps ;)
[21:59] <herbaliser> histo when rebuilding on the new sda disk it fails with an IO read error on existing disk /dev/sdb
[21:59] <PoolShark_> hi
[21:59] <iam1984> My brothers laptop is a dell inspiron 15r. It does not have a hard drive bay. In order to get to the hard drive I need to completely de-assemble the laptop including removing the motherboard. The hard drive is borked. My brother has an online college class and needs a usable system immediatly. It is my intention to install lubuntu from a cd to a usb stick, to treat it as the hard drive since his laptop can boot from usb. Neither the n
[21:59] <iam1984> ormal live cd or the alternate disk will complete the installation. The hard drive reports itself as working and even displays its partitions in the file manager but cannot be accessed since really it is broken. Whenever the installer gets to the point where it brings up the partitioning tools it hangs indefinently with both installation disks. I assume it is trying to read and seek information on the defective hard drive and is enter
[21:59] <iam1984> ing the hanging state because the drive isn't responding. I have tryed umount on the drive and rm command on the drive. It does not fix the problem. I need someway to make linux not see the drive and not try to access it so that I can proceed to install it from the cd to the usb flash drive. How can I do this?
[21:59] <FloodBot1> iam1984: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:59] <PoolShark_> W....T.....FFF?!?
[21:59] <iam1984> sorry
[21:59] <timDOTvijak> :)
[21:59] <iam1984> I'm new
[22:01] <iam1984> can anyone help me with my problem?
[22:01] <histo> herbaliser: is there errors in syslog about sdb?
[22:02] <iam1984> I will have to check. It is not running at the moment.
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> iam1984, Use the something else option at the install gui a manual install to load the usb.
[22:03] <iam1984> You mean from the text installer alternate cd?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> iam1984, THat would be on the regular live cd.
[22:04] <histo> iam1984: disable the drive in the bios
[22:04] <iam1984> ok I will try that.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> iam1984, YOU can do a manual install to the usb
[22:04] <iam1984> I cannot disable in bios. It is a laptop with out that function.
[22:04] <timDOTvijak> hy all.. i am having a little problem over my linux - 12.04.. it seems i can not use graphic drivers? i have ATI graphic card, and i am complete newb :( please help
[22:04] <LivTyler> ssh client cannot connect anywhere :( , please help me troubleshooting
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> !details | timDOTvijak
[22:06] <histo> iam1984: I believe you get at the hdd on that model dell by removing the kb
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> timDOTvijak, what is the evidence of not being able to use the graphic drivers?
[22:06] <iam1984> How do i get the partionioner to load (to wille)
[22:06] <timDOTvijak> no idea
[22:06] <timDOTvijak> am...
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> iam1984, the installer will format the usb, or you can do it with gparted on board.
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> iam1984, ext4 mount is /
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> in the installer
[22:07] <timDOTvijak> i installed a gnome enviorment.. blue display appear, glassy look of some elements in upper corner...
[22:07] <iam1984> Neither gparted nor text install partioner will start. it hangs indefinently.
[22:07] <histo> iam1984: install on to the usb using a different machine then
[22:07] <histo> iam1984: or do it manually
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> iam1984, this a alternative download?
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | timDOTvijak
[22:08] <iam1984> I can intall it to the usb on my laptop and get it to boot on his?
[22:08] <LivTyler> hello?
[22:08] <LivTyler> !hi
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> iam1984, Probably, hardware can be a problem on occasion.
[22:09] <histo> LivTyler: what is the error?
[22:09] <LivTyler> !ping
[22:09] <histo> iam1984: yes
[22:09] <timDOTvijak> login requested??
[22:09] <LivTyler> ping!
[22:09] <histo> iam1984: it will work just fine that way.
[22:09] <herbaliser> hist syslog errors http://pastebin.com/FnkE8EEc
[22:10] <bekks> herbaliser: That drive (sdb) is broken.
[22:10] <iam1984> to wille . Ethier or/ I have the alternate disk at the moment since live wouldn't work. I will try what histro said. If it don't work I'll be back. bye
[22:10] <histo> iam1984: FYI you don't have to remove the MOBO to get at the hdd on that model.
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> iam1984, Cool you can tab complete nicks as well.
[22:11] <histo> herbaliser: looks like sdb has a bad sector
[22:11] <herbaliser> can i fix it somehow
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> timDOTvijak, your not really making sense.
[22:11] <richwestcoast> as of late iv become the worlds biggest miley cyrus fan, i simply love her!!!!
[22:11] <histo> herbaliser: I don't know how you would continue to rebuild forgetting about that area
[22:11] <herbaliser> the system is still running
[22:11] <histo> herbaliser: perhaps someone in #ubuntu-server may be more familiar or ##hardware
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> !ot | richwestcoast
[22:12] <bekks> herbaliser: Basically just by getting a replacement drive. Bad sectors appear when there are no more spare sectors (which are hidden) available to be replaced silently.
[22:12] <histo> !details | LivTyler
[22:13] <herbaliser> can i find somehow what file is on that sector?
[22:13]  * wilee-nilee thinks miley cyrus give white trash a new definition
[22:14] <histo> herbaliser: http://serverfault.com/questions/315700/how-to-determine-which-file-inode-occupies-a-given-sector
[22:14] <bekks> herbaliser: Thats depends on the filesystem used.
[22:14] <Rootbrian> wilee-nilee: offtopic should be in the right place
[22:14] <timDOTvijak> wilee-nilee, can we do this on prvt?
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:14] <bekks> herbaliser: inodes are not physical sectors.
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> timDOTvijak, I don't do pm's is all.
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> timDOTvijak, raed the nomodeset link and try that to start with.
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> read*
[22:16] <bekks> histo: herbaliser: and that find... approach is more like a brute force than sanely trying to find the file on the bad sector. :)
[22:16] <herbaliser> so reinstall from scracth and restore is the best option
[22:17] <histo> bekks: further down on the page is more helpful.
[22:17] <histo> bekks: the find approach was the person asking the question.
[22:17] <herbaliser> id
[22:17] <herbaliser> always intresting
[22:18] <timDOTvijak> tnx..
[22:18] <timDOTvijak> leaving 4 reboot
[22:18] <bekks> herbaliser: No. Reinstalling will not fix the bad sector.
[22:18] <herbaliser> i now reinstall with new hard drive i mean
[22:18] <bekks> herbaliser: Find the file affected, copy the system but that file, reinstall that file from your backup.
[22:19] <bekks> herbaliser: No need to reinstall :)
[22:19] <Rootbrian> herbilaser: formatting will probably fix the bad sector
[22:19] <bekks> Rootbrian: Most likely it will not, since about 15 years now.
[22:19] <Rootbrian> darn. :(
[22:19] <bekks> Rootbrian: A bad sector is a hardware problem which is not fixed by applying a new logical (software) entity such as a filesystem.
[22:20] <Rootbrian> bekks: what about a low-level format?
[22:20] <bekks> Rootbrian: Thinks like that were usefull >15 years ago. Modern BIOS' dont even support it anymore.
[22:20] <herbaliser> so find the file and restore that file how would that fix the sector?
[22:21] <Rootbrian> bekks: That blows. :( wish they kept that option.
[22:21] <bekks> herbaliser: It will not fix the sector. Noone said that. The goal is to recover the affected file.
[22:21] <bekks> herbaliser: ...to recover it on a new disk.
[22:21] <herbaliser> but it will not fix my rebuild
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> Rootbrian, hmm seems like a offtopic opinion.
[22:21] <Rootbrian> bekks: so glad I still have the same machine since 2001.
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:22] <bekks> herbaliser: Define "my rebuild" please.
[22:22] <Rootbrian> yes, it does wilee-nilee.
[22:22] <herbaliser> bekks the RAID-1 rebuild
[22:22] <herbaliser> it will still fail
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> lol just ribbing you
[22:22] <bekks> Rootbrian: I still got my Texas Instruments TI-60 from 16 years ago, too ;)
[22:23] <bekks> herbaliser: A new disk will fix your rebuild.
[22:23] <Rootbrian> for kicks, I should pickup a P3, 1GHz machine and add in a SATA PCI controller to it, just to low level format hard disks.
[22:23] <bekks> Rootbrian: Just in case the heating in the house break in winter? :P
[22:24] <herbaliser> bekks but my data is on sdb and not mirrored yet to sda
[22:24] <bekks> herbaliser: Then it is a good time to recover the affected files, and copy everything to a new disk.
[22:27] <herbaliser> strange both disks failed at approximatly the same time.
[22:28] <herbaliser> tnx for the help i will reinstall and restore from backup on new disks
[22:29] <igure> hi, can someone help me about nvidia drivers?
[22:30] <holstein> !nvidia
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> igure, Not unless you state the problems.
[22:31] <aboSamoor> The option in ubiquity to reinstall ubuntu erase the whole disk, I lost windows 8 on my surface pro! Any idea what to do?
[22:31] <igure> well, my problem is: I installed the drivers in every way I found on the internet and when i restart the X server after the installation i'm not able to log in
[22:32] <igure> my proprietary driver list is empty
[22:32] <igure> I have no idea what to do next
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor, are you sure W8 is gone, there should be recovery options?
[22:32] <igure> I'm using ubuntu 13.04, Inspiron 5421
[22:32] <holstein> igure: what "proprietary driver list"?
[22:33] <igure> in the software and updates options
[22:33] <igure> the last tab
[22:33] <igure> there is nothing for me there
[22:33] <igure> so I install it from the apt-get
[22:33] <igure> but it didnt work
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor, Can you boot a live ubuntu environment or the install?
[22:33] <holstein> i would try whatever the wiki page suggests for your hardware.. and it doesnt have to work.. there are ppa's
[22:34] <igure> i tried bumblebee but it seems not to work either
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> igure:   you dont have one of those dual-video optimus setups do you?
[22:34] <igure> i guess i have
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> Dont just 'try' bumblebee.. if you dont need it
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> you need to determine exactly what you have. not just try things at random
[22:34] <igure> well i was kinda desperate
[22:34] <holstein> yeah, addding the ppa for bumblebee can break things for you igure
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> so step 1 would be to determine you rexact hardware. and if it needs bulblebee or not.
[22:35] <igure> so, what do you think can it be? every single try i made led me to a "blank" screen after putting my password
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> if it does.. I would either do a clean reinstall so you are  at a known state. then follow the bulbme bee guides.
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> igure:   blank> You mean the LOGIN screen worked but not the desktop?
[22:36] <igure> yes
[22:36] <holstein> igure: could be that there is no driver support for your hardware.. the vendor hasnt guranteed you linux/ubuntu suppport.. but, i would do as Dr_Willis suggests
[22:36] <igure> i can rightclick and stuff
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> igure:  id install a secondary desktop like 'lubuntu-desktop' to see if that works. if its just UNITY thats broken thats a bit of a differnt problem then the 'drivers not working'
[22:36] <igure> create a new folder
[22:36] <aaas> any suggestions: printing out a webpage by script?  I've tried html2ps, wkhtmltopdf, slimerjs, a few other things... i wonder if there is a headless way to control firefox/chrome (so no autohotkey)..anyone know of a way to script chrome/firefox?
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> igure:  sounds more like a 'unity dont work' issue to me.
[22:37] <igure> i tried gdm either
[22:37] <streusalz> i have a directory full of text files - and i want to replace a cerstain string in all text files to an other string - what's the best way to do it?
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> you could alwyas just not use unity.
[22:37] <igure> same problem
[22:37] <Dr_Willis>  the login manager wont matter. its the desktop that matters.
[22:37] <streusalz> its 500 text files
[22:37] <holstein> igure: same problem with XFCE?
[22:37] <igure> didnt try
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> if compiz is getting conffused by the 3d drivers. that will also break unity
[22:37] <aboSamoo1> wilee-nilee: got disconnected, did you say anything?
[22:37] <holstein> igure: i would download a xubuntu live CD, and try it
[22:37] <histo> aaas: what was wrong with what you tried?
[22:37] <bekks> sed
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoo1, Are you on the live install media?
[22:37] <bekks> streusalz: sed would be the tool of choice
[22:37] <aaas> histo the output isn't as good as just printing manually from chrome/ff
[22:38] <streusalz> bekks: ok, thank you
[22:38] <histo> aaas: do you want graphics etc..?
[22:38] <aboSamoor> no, I rebooted to ubuntu
[22:38] <igure> how can I tell that my driver is working while i'm using XFCE for instance?
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> igure:  run the nvidia-settings tool  is one way
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor, cool run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin all the text.
[22:38] <aaas> histo i have everything formated just the way i want using a print.css and media query.  if i can find a way to get chrome/ff to just print from the command line or something it should work...the normal action of file->print works perfect
[22:38] <igure> I did that when I was trying cinammon
[22:38] <igure> it went to fallback mode
[22:39] <igure> and nvidia-settings shows nothing
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> igure:  cinammon can also break things. ;) not sure about the one in the repos. :)
[22:39] <igure> i tried with mint
[22:39] <igure> not from repo
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> 13.04 cinnamon ran fine in 13.04 from the ubuntu repo
[22:39] <igure> when i run the nvidia-settings it tells me something about my xorg
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> for the 5 min I tried it lol
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> sounds like you got a very goofed up system. I would think best would be to do a clean install. back to a 'sane' state. and first thing, either install lubuntu or xubuntu to begin with and get a working system. then try to get unity and the drivers going
[22:40] <histo> aaas: someone asking for a --print cli option
[22:40] <igure> then i run the nvidia-xorg thins
[22:40] <histo> aaas: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=6942
[22:40] <igure> thing*
[22:40] <igure> and nothing happens
[22:40] <aaas> histo yes i see that that would be nice
[22:40] <igure> i end up with a 800x600 screen
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> igure:   nvidia-xconfigs main job is to generate a proper xorg.conf file for your system
[22:40] <igure> yeah, and when i do that, it doesnt work
[22:40] <histo> aaas: ooh hol dup foudn a ff extension
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> igure:  could be due to other things you have done to the system. Its hard to tell
[22:41] <aaas> histo it doesn't work in modern ff
[22:41] <igure> i works out of the box, but it uses Intel's driver
[22:41] <igure> I know its hard to tell :/
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> igure:  so you ARE using a Optimus system.
[22:41] <histo> aaas: hrm...
[22:41] <igure> i formatted it like 4 times today
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> igure:  if you want the nvidia stuff working. you must get bumblebee working I belive
[22:41] <aboSamoor> wilee-nilee: paste.ubuntu.com/6038295
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> id just stick to intel. unless you need the 3d stuff for games. Or test out 13.10 on it and see if it works any better. (and file bug reports on what dont work)
[22:42] <igure> I intend to play steam games on it
[22:42] <histo> aaas: perhaps you can use the --cloud-print-file stuff
[22:43] <aaas> histo what is that?
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor, Yes it does look like the W8 is gone just one partition, do you want it back?
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[22:43] <igure> well, thanks for your time Dr. Willis
[22:44] <histo> aaas: http://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/
[22:45] <histo> aaas: --cloud-print-file will tell it to display the cloud print dialog and upload the specified file for printing
[22:45] <aboSamoor> wilee-nilee: yes, I was planning to have dual boot system
[22:45] <aaas> histo yeah it needs to be scriptable...any dialog is DOA unless it can be bypassed
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor, I would contact MS they will get you the media needed to reinstall, then we can help you with the ubuntu install, it is not difficult but needs specific pathways.
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor, I assume you did not make an image of W8, that is the first thing to do generally.
[22:48] <aboSamoor> wilee-nilee: I assumed I have 7 years of experience installing ubuntu. That option is quite misleading, I usually go with customized option. I installed ubuntu the first time and it did not appear in the booting menu, so thought of reinstalling it, and at that time the new option appeared!
[22:49] <alanhoff> Hello guys, how can I programatically restrict the size of a folder in ubuntu server?
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor, Its happens to all of us the uefi thing is a bit different is all.
[22:51] <genii> alanhoff: I usually don't bother with that. i just make a file the size I want their max to be and then mount that
[22:51] <aboSamoor> wilee-nilee: yeah, and ubuntu touch is quite different story. I thought I may install android with ubuntu, but that is another beast. I can write on pdfs now :(.
[22:52] <alanhoff> genii: anything more simple?
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> aboSamoor, One can install android on a regular computer there are builds. you could have W8, ubuntu  and android if you wanted it
[22:53] <ixio> where documentation talks about loading mod_rewrite in apache, in apache2 is it simply called "rewrite.load" ?
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> I assume this though on this unit, it is linux friendly aboSamoor
[22:53] <induz> is there a Java programming chat on Ubuntu
[22:54] <genii> alanhoff: What could be more simple than d if=/dev/zero of=output.img bs=1M count=# where # is the size you want the image in K, then mkfs output.img ... then mount output.img /folder/you/want/to /restrict/size/of
[22:55] <bekks> genii: Thats entirely wrong.
[22:55] <bekks> genii: In your example, # represents the count of 1MB units.
[22:58] <genii> bekks: Apologies, yes
[22:59] <genii> bekks: But the principle is sound, much simpler than using quotas, etc. We used to make DVD sized areas for people to store their stuff at work so we they could never accumulate more than what we could burn for them to take away.
[22:59] <alanhoff> genii: It sounds easy in one line, but to put that in one script and deal with users and permissions it's a hardwork, I thougth there was already some kind of program for that :)
[23:08] <dougl> my 13.04 only connects to my iphone hotspot intermitantly (usb hotspot works perfectly) I spoke with someone more experienced suspecting it was my network manager and he suggested it might be the modules for my wifi hardware in my asus notebook (g75v) - do my modules get updated when I do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[23:09] <holstein> dougl: assuming that are updates available.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:10] <dougl> holstein, right... thanks...
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> dougl, When you do updates from the terminal it tells you what it is doing, I always look at mine closely.
[23:11] <dougl> holstein, I spent a weekend compiling digikam from source and then it was in the next update I did... did not want to do that again
[23:11] <dougl> wilee-nilee, prolly a good idea, thanks I will pay  more attention.
[23:11] <holstein> dougl: typically, you want to stay in the repos.. im not saying that broke anything, but if you are finding things are broken that can be why
[23:12] <dougl> holstein, agreed... if I wanted to compile I'd use gentoo but the digikam was for work so I was under the gun a bit and stepped out of the box...
[23:13] <dougl> nothing seems to be broke... was having the wifi issues previous to trying my hand at compiling.
[23:13] <Sach> Trying to unzip a file in ubuntu 12.04, but I get this error message: http://pastebin.com/KX1v4LYW
[23:14] <dougl> sach that is not alot of information... beats me?
[23:15] <dougl> Sach, ^^^
[23:15] <Sach> dougl: yeah, but that is the command line output  :s
[23:16] <OneKorea> I'm new to ubuntu (mint)... during installation /user creation I chose to encrypt home. How that works? What worries me will I be able to ssh to that account?
[23:16] <iceroot_> !mint | OneKorea
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> !mint | OneKorea
[23:16] <jrib> OneKorea: are you using ubuntu or are you using mint?  They are not the same
[23:17] <iceroot_> OneKorea: you will be able to use ssh to that user-account when the account is already logged in, if the user is not logged in localy, the system cant access the encrypted home-partition
[23:17] <OneKorea> Just pretend you didnt see my first sentence  -
[23:17] <jrib> OneKorea: are you using ubuntu or are you using mint?  They are not the same
[23:17] <holstein> OneKorea: pretend you *did* see where you go for mint support.. or load up an ubuntu live CD
[23:19] <OneKorea> iceroot_, uh thanks... so seems I'll need to 'un-encrypt' home for that acc
[23:20] <slide23> Has anyone used truecrypt? Is there any difference between creating a partition and encrypting that vs encrypting the entire drive via /dev/sdg?
[23:20] <OneKorea> aww connectione (
[23:20] <OneKorea> iceroot_, uh thanks... so seems I'll need to 'un-encrypt' home for that acc
[23:20] <holstein> slide23: yes.. there is quite a difference.. though the end result is encryption
[23:21] <slide23> what are the practical differences?
[23:21] <Sach> dougl: I was able to do it successfully using this in the terminal: unzip file.zip -d extraction_folder  :)
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> slide23, I just make a truecrypt container, encrypting the OS or partitions is a fools paradise.
[23:21] <holstein> slide23: speed.. hassle.. etc
[23:21] <slide23> holstein, er, which has which? ha
[23:21] <ljetibo> Hello, I've recently upgraded to a 12.04 Ubuntu from 10.4 and now I want to install matplotlib python module. When I write sudo apt-get python matplotlib I get an error. I tried installing git as well and got the same error. I tried apt-cache gencaches and apt-get update, that didn't really get me anywhere. Then online I saw this: http://www.iasptk.com/ubuntu-debian/15825-ubuntu-fix-broken-package-best-solution so I tried it, but it didn't work.
[23:21] <ljetibo> Now I'm not really "at home" with linux in general so I'm a bit scared and sceptical about editing anything seemingly important while sudo. Will editing that file help me? Is that even my problem or is it something else? What does a broken Package even look like? here's pasties: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6038386/
[23:21] <FloodBot1> ljetibo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:21] <OneKorea> !logs
[23:22] <holstein> slide23: if you need the drive encypted, you'll need to do that. if not, just use truecrypt on the fly.. the end result is similar
[23:22] <OneKorea> no realtime log? :<
[23:23] <slide23> not sure what on the fly means here?
[23:23] <dougl> Sach, always good to hear when it works out...
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> !who | slide23
[23:23] <dougl> makes you smile
[23:23] <slide23> holstein, not sure what on the fly means here =\
[23:23] <genii> !info python3-matplotlib
[23:23] <genii> Hm.
[23:24] <holstein> slide23: it means, as needed.. not the entire drive at install
[23:24] <slide23> hrm
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> slide23, encryption is fine till you get locked out do to a mistake.
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> or a HD Failure...etc
[23:25] <slide23> wilee-nilee, all the data is not mission critical, just sensitive
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> slide23, You can make a container, and copy and paste a copy as a backup, that's what my methid is.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> opens in linux ans windows
[23:27] <brennan> holstein, u there?
[23:28] <slide23> no windows fs could handle 2TB files could it? lol
[23:28] <dougl> lol
[23:28] <Guest68232> can someone help me find and mount my usb drive???
[23:28] <Guest50980> hello0
[23:29] <Jeruvy> slide23 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[23:29] <dougl> guests too many to help... /nick newnickname
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> slide23, Yes windows can, many run with large file systems I have one myself.
[23:31] <slide23> thanks
[23:32] <freedom> yes
[23:32] <intok> Geforce 8800GTS G80 core on Ubuntu 12.04 should I go with the 319 post release driver or the 304 post release driver?
[23:32] <freedom> hi i am new
[23:32] <freedom> hhhhhhh
[23:33] <freedom> heloo00
[23:33] <Jeruvy> freedom, you can ask support questions here, you want to chat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:33] <freedom> no i 'll do
[23:34] <freedom> ok how i can find admin page
[23:34] <freedom> an his real name
[23:34] <bekks> freedom: admin page of what?
[23:34] <bekks> :)
[23:34] <freedom> any webset
[23:35] <freedom> website
[23:35] <j2daosh> hey all. im trying to do a wget but it's telling me i'm wrong. not sure why this would fail 'wget --user=username --pass=password --no-check-certificate https://www.url.com/file.xml'
[23:35] <bekks> freedom: Please clarify
[23:35] <bekks> !details | freedom
[23:35] <intok> freedom 4chan, but they will need your social security number
[23:36] <j2daosh> anyone know why that wget command format is incorrect?
[23:36] <freedom> i wanna get the admin of website i tryed alot but i faild
[23:36] <ljetibo> if you get a warning from the FloodBot does it also block your message?
[23:36] <bekks> freedom: Please clarify.
[23:36] <freedom> o.0
[23:36] <j2daosh> freedom are you trying to hack into a website or something?
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> ljetibo, It will quiet you on occasion
[23:37] <bekks> freedom: Start with explaining what an "admin page" is supposed to be.
[23:37] <j2daosh> because if you are, this aint the room to help with that
[23:37] <ljetibo> I'll try again then... :)
[23:37] <ljetibo> Hello, I've recently upgraded to a 12.04 Ubuntu from 10.4 and now I want to install matplotlib python module. When I write sudo apt-get python matplotlib I get an error. I tried installing git as well and got the same error. I tried apt-cache gencaches and apt-get update, that didn't really get me anywhere
[23:37] <freedom> hi ... i used meltego tool but i faild
[23:38] <ljetibo> Then online I saw this: http://www.iasptk.com/ubuntu-debian/15825-ubuntu-fix-broken-package-best-solution so I tried it, but it didn't work. Now I'm not really "at home" with linux in general so I'm a bit scared and sceptical about editing anything seemingly important while sudo. Will editing that file help me? Is that even my problem or is it something else? What does a broken Package even look like? here's pasties: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:38] <ljetibo> 6038386/
[23:38] <FloodBot1> ljetibo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> ljetibo, pastebin those.
[23:38] <bekks> freedom: Please answer the questions...
[23:38] <ljetibo> oh dang it.... :D I already did
[23:38] <ljetibo> I got another warnign from bot
[23:38] <freedom> let him try update his box
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> ljetibo, Or a simplified version, no need for whether you are scared or not keep it short and detailed.
[23:39] <ljetibo> wille-nilee: so the 2nd message got through this time
[23:40] <freedom> i am new i did CEH but i feeling i need more
[23:40] <bekks> freedom: What are you talking about?
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> ljetibo, The norm here is a line or two the bot will spank you for more
[23:40] <ljetibo> wilee-nilee: duly noted
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[23:41] <freedom> i wanna learn how to be one of strong anonymous what shall i do
[23:41] <bekks> freedom: You are in the wrong channel then, clearly.
[23:41] <thomas> hello all
[23:42] <freedom> i got anonoymous os now iam trying to learn how to use it
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> freedom, Heh, be sure to state it on the web with our IP showing
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> your*
[23:42] <Guest21155> am I guest?
[23:42] <Majere_Dreavan> Much better
[23:42] <freedom> your ip ???
[23:43] <ljetibo> I can also provide you with pasties that I have all the necessary dependencies for matplotlib
[23:43] <freedom> i got this chennal by using my os
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> freedom, ~anonymous@46.16.33.52
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> that is just a right click on your nick
[23:44] <freedom> i selected xchat on my os
[23:45] <freedom> this is my ip ?
[23:45] <bekks> freedom: You are located near London, you arent anonymous, and you are in the wrong channel.
[23:45] <Majere_Dreavan> Its been a long time since I've done this. How do I set terminal to show up when I hit Tilde ~
[23:45] <sillyme> i cant seem to apt-get install GTK+ dosent locate it
[23:45] <freedom> ok sorry
[23:45] <freedom> i 'll leave
[23:45] <freedom> byee
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> Majere_Dreavan, Sounds like a key setting, you can do it with ctrl-alt-t stock
[23:48] <j2daosh> freedom: www.lmgtfy.com?q=anonym.os
[23:48] <Majere_Dreavan> Now it works! Thank you WIlee
[23:48] <Majere_Dreavan> I just changed it to ~
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[23:48] <j2daosh> lol you should read up about it before you install a bunch of trojans on your system lol
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> j2daosh, long gone
[23:49]  * j2daosh shrugs oh well
[23:51] <thurstylark> how do I change my unix username in 13.04?
[23:52] <eden_> why ccsm doesn't work in gnome 3 ?
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> thurstylark, That can get messy.
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> eden_, The shell or unity?
[23:52] <eden_> shell
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> eden_, it uses mutter
[23:53] <eden_> wilee-nilee, what's mutter?
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> eden_, a desktop manager like ccsm is.
[23:53] <thurstylark> wilee-nilee: I have done it before, but through webmin, so it was super painless, but I really don't want to install webmin on a user machine to just do that...
[23:53] <thurstylark> ...and then uninstall it...
[23:53] <eden_> wilee-nilee, so what i can do to solve it?
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> eden_, You can't use ccsm. http://askubuntu.com/questions/95038/how-do-i-use-mutter-with-gnome-shell
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> in ubuntu anyway
[23:55] <nibornage> is it possible to install new themes in ubuntu 12.04?\
[23:56] <Guest68232> can someone help me PLEASE????
[23:56] <deezed> Guest68232: what is your problem?
[23:57] <Guest68232> dude i got this 16 gig flash drive and i can't even find it unless i use lsusb deezed
[23:57] <deezed> Guest68232: ok, you are using unity?
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> nibornage, https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&q=nstall+new+themes+in+ubuntu+12.04
[23:57] <Guest68232> i dont know how to check deezed
[23:58] <deezed> Guest68232: which is your desktop?
[23:58] <deezed> Guest68232: which is your os?
[23:58] <Guest68232> ubuntu 13.04
[23:58] <deezed> ok
[23:59] <deezed> Guest68232: have you tried other drive already?
[23:59] <Guest68232> i've tried all three ports i've got an x75a deezed
[23:59] <deezed> Guest68232: ok, but did you try with other pen-drive?