| smartboyhw | zequence-work: Should we update the Plymouth theme if madeinkobaia will be doing a new wallpaper? | 10:32 |
|---|---|---|
| zequence-work | smartboyhw: We'll probably be updating all of our art | 10:35 |
| zequence-work | The CoF, and therefore anything that has it | 10:35 |
| smartboyhw | zequence-work: whoa, sure | 10:35 |
| smartboyhw | What? We are updaating the CoF? | 10:35 |
| zequence-work | For 14.04 that is | 10:35 |
| zequence-work | For now, we just roll with what we have - madeinkobaia might have time for a WP for this release, but if he hasn't, there's no sweat | 10:36 |
| smartboyhw | zequence-work, OK.... | 10:36 |
| cub | I chatted with madeinkobaia, maybe a couple of weeks ago, and it sounded that he was hoping to finish a new WP för 13.10 that could be used for the G+, web and in my case the Youtube tutorials. | 11:10 |
| DarkEra | he's kinda busy he told me in a mail | 11:14 |
| cub | yup | 11:17 |
| cub | OvenWerk1, is the new installer up on the daily build for Saucy? I downloaded yesterday and installed and thought it would be much different, but it was mostly straightforward. With the exception of two screen of Ubuntu One (even though I had marked that I didn't have an internet connection :P ) | 11:19 |
| cub | And in Grub it was called "Ubuntu" only. | 11:23 |
| cub | While my previous, main OS was changed (unrelated to saucy installation though) to "Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS (12.04)" That was a nice touch. | 11:24 |
| cub | ttoine, your gparted strategy worked out perfectly. :) | 11:25 |
| ttoine | cub, hehe | 11:32 |
| ttoine | I am a gparted master ;-) | 11:32 |
| cub | It took the whole day with a very buzzing cpu fan, but finally I got where it should be | 11:33 |
| ttoine | yes, it tool times. sometimes, it is frightening | 11:33 |
| cub | gparted, Tetris for the adventurous | 11:33 |
| ttoine | it is always good to back up data, before | 11:33 |
| cub | oh yeah. I have three. and Dropbox. And Bitcasa. | 11:35 |
| cub | And I'm still nervous each time. :D | 11:35 |
| cub | one concern I have now is that the power supply to one of my backup drives have failed. :/ | 11:35 |
| cub | 500 GB of precious data unavailble. | 11:36 |
| ttoine | f..k | 11:43 |
| ttoine | buy a new box | 11:43 |
| cub | I hope to be able to buy a new power supply. If not, try to hook it up in another computer. I only have laptops myself. | 11:44 |
| OvenWerk1 | cub: There are four new packages uploaded, but they are still in proposed and have yet to make it to the wild. They are waiting for -installer to make it out of NEW. | 12:19 |
| cub | I guessed that was the case. | 12:20 |
| cub | Will that clean up my grub? ;) | 12:20 |
| OvenWerk1 | I will anounce when they are out. IN the mean time our ISO didn't build yesterdaqy | 12:20 |
| cub | mm I saw. Any idea why? | 12:20 |
| OvenWerk1 | Yes the new settings has two grub fixes | 12:20 |
| OvenWerk1 | I can never remember where the build logs are kept. | 12:21 |
| smartboyhw | zequence-work, we ARE participating in Saucy Beta 1 right? | 12:28 |
| smartboyhw | (Don't tell me we aren't...) | 12:28 |
| cub | So, what happens after FF tomorrow? Is it business as usual or do we have a certain plan for testing and bug fixing until 13.10 launch? | 12:28 |
| knome | smartboyhw, i thought you were the release manager deciding on that. | 12:29 |
| smartboyhw | knome, final discretion at zequence-work | 12:31 |
| knome | smartboyhw, i didn't sense any discretion from your side... :P | 12:31 |
| smartboyhw | knome, well I want to participate | 12:32 |
| smartboyhw | Just confirming | 12:32 |
| smartboyhw | We did talk about that before and it's a yes, but just want to confirm;) | 12:32 |
| smartboyhw | cub, we will test Beta 1, fix all bugs before Beta 2. Beta 2 should be as close as RC status (even it technically isn't | 12:33 |
| smartboyhw | That's the schedule, at least | 12:33 |
| OvenWerk1 | smartboyhw: +1 | 12:33 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, up so early huh? | 12:34 |
| cub | smartboyhw, yeah, I was thinking of in more detail. Like a project plan with tasks, but I'm a bit damage from my daily work. ;) | 12:38 |
| smartboyhw | cub, well, zequence (and probably OvenWerk1) will start the planning process for 14.04 LTS when they see fit:) | 12:38 |
| cub | smartboyhw, 14.04 is another thing. I was wondering about from tomorrow until the launch of 13.10. So we don't run all tests in panic the night before release. | 12:40 |
| smartboyhw | cub, uh hum, test the daily now please | 12:41 |
| smartboyhw | (I do get reports that ubiquity is failing in other distros_) | 12:41 |
| cub | Just did. ;) Installed this morning. | 12:41 |
| smartboyhw | cub, how's it? | 12:41 |
| cub | working fine. Though, I downloaded yesterday. hmm. | 12:41 |
| cub | but yeah, the build failed tonight. | 12:42 |
| smartboyhw | cub, yeah:( | 12:42 |
| OvenWerk1 | However our beta 1 needs All our packages out into the wild. | 12:43 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, I will send the email with reminders to get packages out of NEW after zequence-work confirms Beta 1 participation | 12:44 |
| cub | OvenWerk1, are the packages waiting for review? | 12:44 |
| smartboyhw | cub, yes | 12:45 |
| OvenWerk1 | They are in the que, but so are a lot of packages :) | 12:45 |
| smartboyhw | The review must be done by an archive admin | 12:45 |
| OvenWerk1 | I was told maybe a week. | 12:45 |
| smartboyhw | Which, nobody in the Xubuntu or Ubuntu Studio-related teams is:P | 12:45 |
| cub | aha | 12:46 |
| OvenWerk1 | smartboyhw: when is beta 1? | 12:46 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, next Thurs | 12:46 |
| cub | Did anyone tune in on the vUDS yesterday? (I know smartboyhw didn't ;) | 12:46 |
| OvenWerk1 | nope | 12:47 |
| smartboyhw | cub, yep, you know I didn't. | 12:47 |
| cub | hehe | 12:47 |
| smartboyhw | My blog post infuriated a lot of comments, lOL | 12:47 |
| cub | I listened to the keynote with Jono and Mark quite good but nothing revolutionary | 12:50 |
| zequence-work | smartboyhw: Yes. We're participating :) | 12:54 |
| smartboyhw | zequence-work, :) | 13:10 |
| smartboyhw | cub, OvenWerk1, zequence-work seemingly an archive admin (Riddell) wants to review the Ubuntu studio packages:) | 13:18 |
| cub | Is that good or bad? | 13:19 |
| smartboyhw | cub, of course it's good | 13:19 |
| smartboyhw | That means it probably will go in faster:) | 13:19 |
| cub | sweet | 13:20 |
| OvenWerk1 | Installer is into proposed :) | 13:24 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, although actually, Riddell doesn't understand why on Earth we need that package:P | 13:25 |
| OvenWerk1 | Most people don't... tunnel vision. | 13:25 |
| OvenWerk1 | The idea of supporting more than one flavour without dragging in tones of libs is not in most people think | 13:26 |
| OvenWerk1 | USC does the same job after all. | 13:26 |
| OvenWerk1 | Can you imagine a user who has installed lubuntu not being upset at USC showing up? | 13:27 |
| OvenWerk1 | (or KDE for that matter) | 13:28 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, Lubuntu has their own Software Center | 13:28 |
| cub | was a discussion similar to that topic just yesterday in the #ubuntustudio | 13:29 |
| OvenWerk1 | LSC does not take CL arguments, I looked at it. | 13:29 |
| cub | well not on the installer but on "I don't want to run ubuntu studio because the USC showed things that costs money". :) holstein did a great job explaining everything | 13:30 |
| smartboyhw | cub, ;) | 13:30 |
| OvenWerk1 | Also, to use a different installer for each DE means checking what is there and running it, much more work than just writng new software. | 13:31 |
| cub | My favorite quote: "holstein: not usuing ubuntu because there is commercial software in the software center is a bit like not shopping at a grocery store becuase they sell cigarettes" | 13:31 |
| zequence-work | I'd like everyones opinion now. Is this ok? http://ubuntustudio.org/merchandise/ | 13:31 |
| zequence-work | OvenWerk1: smartboyhw: ttoine: cub: astraljava: holstein: (and anyone else interested) | 13:32 |
| OvenWerk1 | zequence-work: Looks good to me. I like the bottom mug | 13:33 |
| * OvenWerk1 wants stickers :) | 13:33 | |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, ack | 13:33 |
| smartboyhw | zequence-work ^ | 13:33 |
| smartboyhw | We need to announce it though | 13:34 |
| zequence-work | OvenWerk1: Right. What was that place again? Unix stickers something | 13:34 |
| cub | Nice zequence-work | 13:34 |
| zequence-work | smartboyhw: Yes, once it is decided it's ready for release. That's why I'm asking for opinions BEFORE I announce it | 13:34 |
| cub | http://www.unixstickers.com/ | 13:35 |
| OvenWerk1 | I think "Conditions for this license is" is should are or the s should come off Conditions. | 13:35 |
| zequence-work | ttoine: If you have some time in the future, perhaps you could take a look at that? Other flavors are using that, and we should too, I think. | 13:35 |
| OvenWerk1 | zequence-work: ^^ | 13:36 |
| zequence-work | OvenWerk1: Right. There are more conditions, I guess. But that one is the only one relevant to our users - I was going to write down more otherwise | 13:36 |
| zequence-work | Good catch | 13:36 |
| zequence-work | Changing it to "A condition.." | 13:37 |
| cub | The dark grey shirt with all white print looks really nice too. No issue with the quality there. | 13:37 |
| * cub is actually wearing an Ubuntu Studio t-shirt right now..:*) | 13:38 | |
| zequence-work | People are free to try more examples, but those are specifically designed by us | 13:38 |
| zequence-work | It's kind of cool to have the freedom to mix different colors | 13:38 |
| cub | Stallman would be happy. ;) | 13:38 |
| smartboyhw | cub, LOL | 13:39 |
| ttoine | zequence-work, nice work on wordpress | 13:46 |
| ttoine | zequence, for the stickers, I am already looking at way to do it | 13:47 |
| ttoine | OvenWerk1, thanks for the link | 13:48 |
| smartboyhw | zequence-work, knome it would be good if we can update the copyright line at the pageend | 13:53 |
| smartboyhw | It's still 2012 | 13:53 |
| OvenWerk1 | smartboyhw: I missed tha somehow :P | 13:54 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, LOL | 13:55 |
| OvenWerk1 | I did actually read that line too. | 13:55 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, OK | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | I actually read the line you talked abuot too | 13:56 |
| zequence-work | The website was created in 2012, so I think that's fine | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | zequence-work, but the contents aren't | 13:57 |
| smartboyhw | (Not all at least) | 13:57 |
| knome | it's trivial to change, but you'll need to get IS upload a new version of the theme (iirc the year is hardcoded to the theme) | 13:57 |
| smartboyhw | knome, OK, that's unexpected | 13:57 |
| smartboyhw | Well, IS would probably ignore the request till 2014..... | 13:58 |
| knome | is it part of the asian culture to have such a negative view on things? i thought it was the western state of mind. | 13:59 |
| smartboyhw | knome, OK, I'm pessimistic:P | 14:00 |
| zequence-work | I'm getting thrown out from here. I'll make the announcements tonight, when I get home. | 14:01 |
| knome | i agree that IS have not always delivered stuff on time (yes, we waited for a subdomain redirection for 2+ years), but that doesn't warrant mocking them up. they have been getting better and if you work with them and give them any information they need, they are ok | 14:01 |
| smartboyhw | zequence-work, thrown off? | 14:01 |
| smartboyhw | *thrown out | 14:01 |
| OvenWerk1 | made sense to me. | 14:02 |
| smartboyhw | knome, so, can you do the change? | 14:02 |
| smartboyhw | I can do the ticket filing | 14:03 |
| knome | smartboyhw, okay. | 14:03 |
| cub | IS? | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | cub, Canonical Internet Services | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | They manage all of Ubuntu and their flavours' webserver | 14:04 |
| cub | ok | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | So, such changes need to go through them to implement | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | cub, you are learning one new thing per day:{ | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | :{P | 14:04 |
| cub | at least! | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | OUCH | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 14:04 |
| cub | it's my life mission. Learn something new each day. | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | cub, want to learn packaging?:P | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | I can give you a pretty haunting experience;P | 14:05 |
| cub | yes, but that have to wait until tomorrow. I've filled my learning quota for today. ;) | 14:05 |
| smartboyhw | cub, well, that at least takes 2-3 days | 14:05 |
| cub | knome, so even though it's based on wordpress zequence can't change the theme himself? | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | cub, he can | 14:06 |
| knome | cub, the year is hardcoded in the theme. | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | But, the implementation is done through IS | 14:06 |
| knome | cub, we can make it dynamic, but i don't see any reason to do so | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | knome, less maintenance/ | 14:07 |
| knome | smartboyhw, it's a one-off change to add the dash. | 14:07 |
| cub | I don't follow. Let's say we design a new theme. It needs to be sent to IS to arrive on the site? | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | cub, yes. | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | WE MUST | 14:07 |
| knome | smartboyhw, and you could argue it's more maintenance because you have to make sure the code pulling it dynamically from the database needs to be maintained | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | knome, oh, OK then | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | But anyways knome plz do the change and I can bug IS:P | 14:08 |
| knome | i'm on it | 14:08 |
| cub | but...it's wordpress. Wouldn't it be dead simple to allow each webmaster to set whatever theme they like? | 14:09 |
| knome | smartboyhw, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-website/ubuntustudio-resources/website-wordpress/revision/10 | 14:09 |
| smartboyhw | knome, thanks | 14:09 |
| knome | cub, yes, but the themes need to be installed on the server. | 14:09 |
| smartboyhw | Which IS controls | 14:09 |
| knome | cub, and if you want to change them, the theme files need to be changed. | 14:09 |
| cub | which you can do in the admin interface in a standard WP installation. | 14:09 |
| knome | cub, only IS has file access to those production servers | 14:09 |
| cub | Ok | 14:10 |
| knome | cub, yes, if the user running the webserver has the access to file system, which is disabled on canonical servers | 14:10 |
| knome | cub, so no, there is no workaround, all code/themes need to go through IS so they can do their security review and what not. | 14:10 |
| OvenWerk1 | smartboyhw: I am just going through the blu prints and notice meantion of the xfce logo in the installer. | 14:13 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, em? | 14:14 |
| OvenWerk1 | Is that still a problem? I thought it was fixed in R | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, no (Not in S) | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw | WEIRD | 14:14 |
| OvenWerk1 | I am just wondering if the blueprint item was carried over but should have been "DONE"ed | 14:15 |
| * smartboyhw goes over why the build failed today | 14:15 | |
| OvenWerk1 | smartboyhw: thankyou | 14:15 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, jeez, it's catfish | 14:16 |
| OvenWerk1 | OK new catfish coming. | 14:17 |
| OvenWerk1 | xubuntu will have the same issue. | 14:17 |
| cub | aha. I removed catfish on my other saucy yesterday because of all trouble. :D | 14:18 |
| * smartboyhw restarts a build to check | 14:18 | |
| * OvenWerk1 needs another monitor... | 14:27 | |
| * knome monitors OvenWerk1 | 14:28 | |
| OvenWerk1 | :) | 14:28 |
| OvenWerk1 | knome I am sharing one monitor with two computers right now | 14:29 |
| knome | that sounds like you need (at least) 3 new monitors | 14:29 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, good, help test Mir's new multi-monitor feature, we need you;) | 14:30 |
| OvenWerk1 | The penny jar doesn't even cover one... | 14:30 |
| * knome pops in a penny | 14:30 | |
| * OvenWerk1 will probably get a ubuntustudio mug first | 14:30 | |
| * knome pops in another penny for that | 14:31 | |
| smartboyhw | knome, give me $10million USD now:P | 14:32 |
| smartboyhw | (Since you seem to be so generous) | 14:32 |
| * knome slaps smartboyhw | 14:32 | |
| OvenWerk1 | Harder :) | 14:32 |
| * smartboyhw lands right on knome | 14:32 | |
| OvenWerk1 | excess money seems to be a ruiner of people... | 14:33 |
| knome | that's not a hard task, there's a lot of surface to land on | 14:33 |
| OvenWerk1 | :) | 14:33 |
| knome | yeah, it's usually the poorest who give the most (at least by percentage) | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | knome, zequence Canonical IS completed the work! (I pinged somebody in #canonical-sysadmin and that did the trick) | 14:50 |
| smartboyhw | Hey madeinkobaia :) | 15:45 |
| smartboyhw | We finally get to see you:P | 15:45 |
| madeinkobaia | Hey smartboyhw : ) | 15:47 |
| madeinkobaia | Yep :P | 15:47 |
| smartboyhw | madeinkobaia, so, are you gonna make a 13.10 wallpaper for us? | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | (Just asking, no pressure) | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | If you can't do it, we will just ship with what's in here now | 15:48 |
| madeinkobaia | Normally I will create 2 wallpaper. One minimal, with a simple design, and one more "arty". Then we will decide witch one could be usable as default for the 13.10. | 15:51 |
| smartboyhw | madeinkobaia, just to remind you: UserInterfaceFreeze is on September 19th | 15:52 |
| madeinkobaia | Yes I know that ;) | 15:54 |
| * smartboyhw would suggest to hold a artwork contest next cycle | 15:55 | |
| smartboyhw | The wallpapers in our G+ community is awesome | 15:55 |
| madeinkobaia | The wallpaper contest is a good idea. I think it is already planned for the 14.04. About witch wp in particular you're talking about ? | 15:58 |
| smartboyhw | madeinkobaia, all, tbh | 15:59 |
| smartboyhw | ALL ARE GREAT WORK:P | 15:59 |
| smartboyhw | (because I certainly can't make one of these) | 15:59 |
| madeinkobaia | Ok ;p | 15:59 |
| cub | hehe smartboyhc's blog was discussed in the Community Roundtable | 17:20 |
| zequence | cub: Cool | 17:45 |
| cub | spent 15 minutes talking about G hangout and alternatives | 17:48 |
| madeinkobaia | See you all : ) | 18:47 |
| OvenWerk1 | Yahoo! ubuntustudio-installer, ubuntustudio-menu, ubuntustudio-default-settings and ubuntustudio-icon-theme are all updated to the wild. | 21:45 |
| knome | :) | 21:45 |
| knome | congrats | 21:45 |
| OvenWerk1 | All we need is a respin. | 21:46 |
| OvenWerk1 | (tomorrow is fine | 21:46 |
| * OvenWerk1 is also happy to have a console working on his new MB | 21:47 | |
| zequence | Just finished the announcement for the merchandise http://ubuntustudio.org/2013/08/ubuntu-studio-merchandise/ | 22:15 |
| OvenWerk1 | Ok, that one is (c) 2011. I think we went the wrong way | 23:03 |
| OvenWerk1 | The photo looks squashed on my screen though. | 23:04 |
| knome | OvenWerk1, no, i changed it to 2011 (that was in html <meta>) | 23:05 |
| knome | the photo looks fine to me | 23:05 |
| OvenWerk1 | knome: must be rekonq then. The desktop has round icons... | 23:20 |
| knome | desktop? :) | 23:21 |
| knome | was referring to http://ubuntustudio.org/2013/08/ubuntu-studio-merchandise/... | 23:21 |
| OvenWerk1 | Ya, its the browser, FF is fine... | 23:23 |
| OvenWerk1 | WHat I was saying is that the desktop itself has round not squashed cirecles. | 23:24 |
| OvenWerk1 | *circles | 23:24 |
| knome | heh | 23:26 |
| OvenWerk1 | In fact, now that I look at it, The rest of that page is correct, it is just the way the browsers reder the photo. weird | 23:26 |
| knome | was wondering if you thought kaj's shirt was a desktop... | 23:26 |
| OvenWerk1 | Na, I would like a nicer backdrop :P | 23:26 |
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