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| Spee_Der | Good evening folks. | 00:41 |
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| penguin42 | hey | 00:48 |
| Spee_Der | hey | 03:27 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:53 |
| paddymahoney | Is anyone working on tiling within ubuntu next? If I could get the ubuntu dock + launcher, with a reasonable tiling setup for the wm, I'd be all over that. | 14:35 |
| christian_lappy | well, since a few weeks logging into unity gives me a black screen only | 15:43 |
| christian_lappy | xfce works | 15:43 |
| christian_lappy | same happens with other gtk bases wm | 15:43 |
| christian_lappy | any idea how to get rid of that issue ? i already tried another user account | 15:44 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| ariel__ | saludos | 16:58 |
| ariel__ | buen dia | 16:58 |
| ariel__ | hello | 16:58 |
| ariel__ | help | 16:58 |
| BluesKaj | ariel__, ask your question | 17:13 |
| ariel__ | no speack english | 17:14 |
| ariel__ | i am from colombia | 17:15 |
| paulo_gomes | hi ariel | 17:15 |
| ariel__ | I have a bug that will not let me open the software center | 17:16 |
| ariel__ | ubuntu 13.10 | 17:16 |
| ariel__ | I use google translator | 17:17 |
| BluesKaj | paulo_gomes, is there an #ubuntu+1-es chat ? | 17:19 |
| ariel__ | fine thanks | 17:19 |
| BluesKaj | nope :( | 17:19 |
| ariel__ | help | 17:20 |
| ariel__ | software-center no open | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | ariel__: you could try to do an update using apt-get and see if the problem still happens after the update | 17:21 |
| BluesKaj | ariel__, open konsole , sudo apt-get ipdate | 17:21 |
| BluesKaj | err update | 17:21 |
| paulo_gomes | BluesKaj: dont know :( | 17:22 |
| BluesKaj | paulo_gomes, it doesn't exist | 17:22 |
| paulo_gomes | ok | 17:22 |
| paulo_gomes | sad | 17:22 |
| BluesKaj | already checke | 17:22 |
| ariel__ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6041091/ | 17:23 |
| paulo_gomes | ariel i also have that error, but my software center works | 17:25 |
| paulo_gomes | ariel__: run the software center from command line and see if it shows any error | 17:26 |
| ariel__ | no works | 17:26 |
| BluesKaj | wonder if he ran the update command first tho | 17:27 |
| BluesKaj | ariel__ , 1) , sudo apt-get update , 2) , sudo apt-get upgrade | 17:27 |
| ariel__ | yes it will stick in the pastebin | 17:27 |
| BluesKaj | 3) sudo dpkg --configure -a | 17:29 |
| mibofra | Hi, I've upgrated my installation of ubuntu 13.10 yesterday and todat too but before yesterday I can use my android as mass device and with adb. Now dmesg says that the kernel receive the usb connection but lsusb and adb can't see my android phone | 17:43 |
| mibofra | Kernel : 3.10.0-5-lowlatemcy but I can't see it with any version of linux now | 17:44 |
| penguin42 | are you sure that's 3.10.0-5 ? My 13.10 box is on 3.11.0-4 | 17:45 |
| mibofra | penguin42: I've installed the latest too but I like to use it | 17:46 |
| mibofra | Anyway I've tried it too | 17:46 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Perhaps if you pastebin the output of dmesg when you're plugging your phone in? | 17:47 |
| mibofra | penguin42: yes but it's occupated with apt my pc now and I'm on tty just a minute | 17:48 |
| mibofra | hi sorry but I had to go | 19:21 |
| mibofra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6041445/ dmesg | 19:21 |
| mibofra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6041448/ lsusb | 19:21 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: What's unusual is that you normally see a 'New USB device found, idVendor=....' after the new high-speed USB device number message | 20:03 |
| mibofra | penguin42: it's fine but first is the same device and normally I see one dev/number one usb device. After I normally see the usb device under lsusb... Did you see an android phone :P ? | 20:06 |
| penguin42 | hmm | 20:07 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Hang on, let me just boot my phone | 20:07 |
| mibofra | Ok | 20:07 |
| penguin42 | they can be a bit odd, typically android phones have 2 or 3 USB-id's based on what stage of boot tey're at | 20:08 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Yeh, my ZTE blade is showing here (It's running Cyanogenmod 7) | 20:08 |
| mibofra | penguin42: ok but non 5 or 6 | 20:08 |
| penguin42 | non 5 or 6? | 20:09 |
| mibofra | *no | 20:09 |
| mibofra | I upgrade every day and before the 28-07-2013 (timezone utc+1) I can see my phone | 20:10 |
| penguin42 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6041597/ | 20:10 |
| mibofra | I've quantal since there are the repos online | 20:10 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Sorry which kernel were you running when it worked and which when it failed? | 20:11 |
| mibofra | penguin42, the same I'm running now the 3.10.0-5-lowlatency | 20:12 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: I'm confused because I don't see 3.10.0-5 in the current saucy; apt-cache search lowlat shows me 3.11.0-2 | 20:13 |
| mibofra | but after the fail I've tried with other ones and the latest too (the 3.11.0-4) | 20:13 |
| mibofra | penguin42, I know It isn't the latest but it used to work | 20:14 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: OK so if you go back to earlier kernels does it work? | 20:15 |
| mibofra | maybe tomorrow with another upgrade everything works | 20:15 |
| mibofra | penguin42, no without any version of linux I've installed on the machine (3.5-6-7-8-9-10-11) | 20:15 |
| mibofra | *I've to remove some kernels, anyway all of them work | 20:16 |
| mibofra | but everyone fails to see my phone now | 20:16 |
| penguin42 | does it work on another machine? | 20:17 |
| mibofra | my brother has got a win one so I've tried there and after on a live of 13.04 | 20:17 |
| mibofra | the phone is detected | 20:18 |
| mibofra | P.S. I've to look on launchpad, maybe there is a reported bug | 20:18 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Report it anyway, it sounds pretty hardware specific | 20:19 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Are there any other USB devices your machine doesn't detect - is it possible that something in the machine got damaged? | 20:19 |
| mibofra | penguin42, It the first thing I've thought, but any other usb device is detected | 20:20 |
| mibofra | *it is | 20:20 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: What about booting off a live CD perhaps - maybe an old one - what happens? | 20:20 |
| mibofra | penguin42, I've wrote about this, on the 13.04 live everything is ok and on saucy too before yesterday (I don't have to upgrade every day XD ) | 20:21 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Definitely report it - put *all* this information in the bug report | 20:22 |
| mibofra | unfortunately I don't have another android device to test | 20:22 |
| mibofra | ok | 20:22 |
| mibofra | penguin42, with project? hal, udev ... | 20:23 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: I'd also try a 13.10 boot cd | 20:23 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Linux | 20:23 |
| mibofra | ok | 20:23 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: If it's not showing up in lsusb something very odd is going on | 20:23 |
| mibofra | penguin42, yeah xD but no a bit... | 20:24 |
| mibofra | penguin42, maybe I reboot and I report the but with the latest kernel | 20:24 |
| penguin42 | yeh definitely do it with the latest kernel | 20:24 |
| mibofra | penguin42: anyway if you would be sure I can give you the ssh access to debug it personally xD | 20:27 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Hey if that's all that's in your dmesg then I don't really know where to go | 20:27 |
| mibofra | Ok fine | 20:28 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Boot the latest kernel and postbin your whole dmesg | 20:29 |
| mibofra | only the interested part? | 20:30 |
| penguin42 | no | 20:30 |
| penguin42 | the whole dmesg | 20:30 |
| mibofra | Ah ok | 20:30 |
| mibofra | P.S. but if the problem interesting only me it wont be fixed, I think. Anyway I'm going to report it | 20:32 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Yeh but it's useful when you suddenly find there are 30 people reporting similar things | 20:32 |
| mibofra | XD I hope this xD | 20:33 |
| mibofra | Because it's so strange... | 20:34 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: have you got another USB lead to check? | 20:35 |
| mibofra | I'm just writing it :D | 20:35 |
| mibofra | I've an android tablet... | 20:35 |
| mibofra | Let's check | 20:35 |
| mibofra | Toh it's detectd... so now I wonder me why gt-s5830i is not detected now | 20:38 |
| mibofra | Let's check the phone again... | 20:39 |
| mibofra | Yep the phone is seen by dmesg but no by lsusb | 20:40 |
| penguin42 | ok, so lets see the dmesg after you did that | 20:41 |
| mibofra | So maybe I submit a bug in linux only for this device (not very usefull now but I'll try xD ) | 20:41 |
| mibofra | A normal dmesg (just a second to start ff) | 20:43 |
| mibofra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6041686/ | 20:45 |
| mibofra | dmesg and after lsusb | 20:45 |
| penguin42 | but that shows it in the lsusb? | 20:46 |
| mibofra | penguin42: yes it's the device named simply google | 20:49 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Right - so what's the problem? | 20:49 |
| mibofra | penguin42: did you received the last message? The problem is my phone is still not detected... strage it mounts cm 7.2 | 20:54 |
| penguin42 | no, I've not seen your dmesg fromw hen you plug in your phone | 20:54 |
| mibofra | penguin42: the first paste I've pasted xD | 20:55 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: The *whole* dmesg | 20:55 |
| mibofra | penguin42: ok | 20:55 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Forget it; just reboot into the latest kernel, plug your phone in and then run ubuntu-bug linux and once it's reported it give us the bug number, that will have all the logs in | 20:56 |
| mibofra | Yeah I know so I'll do this | 20:57 |
| mibofra | penguin42: I'll do this in tty so you don't have to see al the xorg and co related things... ok? | 20:59 |
| penguin42 | ? | 20:59 |
| johnjohn1011 | 7 more weeks till release. getting close. | 20:59 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Just do it normally | 20:59 |
| mibofra | penguin42: so I login with lightdm in lxde and after I'll report the bug with the phone plugged in | 21:00 |
| * penguin42 disappears for an hour or so | 21:02 | |
| mibofra | penguin42: bug #1218625 good luck xD | 21:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1218625 in linux (Ubuntu) "samsung galaxy ace i (gt-s5830i) not plus detected after upgrade." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1218625 | 21:32 |
| jakubo | hi, is there any way to deactivate opengl2.1 on intel 945 graphics? its slow as hell. | 21:37 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Anyone running Kubuntu+1 since there aren't any specific +1 channels to kubuntu unfortunately? (there should be imho, especially since it is no longer an official ubuntu project, and its getting farther and farther away from ubuntu eith each release). I would think the Alpha2 would be a bit more stable just due to the fact they aren't messing with Mir.Xmir. And I already riun all the testing repos | 21:40 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: You didn't describe the other kernels you tried or how it still works on old boot discs | 21:53 |
| penguin42 | GiGaHuRtZ: Yeh this is for all the +1's | 21:53 |
| mibofra | penguin42, ok I'm adding it | 21:53 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | penguin42: yeah.... but no one ever responds to kubuntu questions | 21:54 |
| penguin42 | GiGaHuRtZ: Hey there are lots of us running KDE on here | 21:54 |
| mibofra | penguin42, ok added | 21:56 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | penguin42: ok, so wanna answer my question | 21:58 |
| mibofra | penguin42: for tests or something else I leave the bouncer here so you can leave me messages (at every time) | 21:59 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | And no, not where someone install KDE as a second DE to unity on a ubuntu install. That throws in loits of other variables and packages not needed for a install | 21:59 |
| mibofra | Anyeay do you have any idea? | 21:59 |
| penguin42 | GiGaHuRtZ: Sorry, what was the actual question? | 22:08 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Anyone running Kubuntu+1 since there aren't any specific +1 channels to kubuntu unfortunately? (there should be imho, especially since it is no longer an official ubuntu project, and its getting farther and farther away from ubuntu eith each release). I would think the Alpha2 would be a bit more stable just due to the fact they aren't messing with Mir.Xmir. And I already riun all the testing repos | 22:10 |
| penguin42 | GiGaHuRtZ: So which part of that is the question ? Yes, I'm running Kubuntu on +1 | 22:11 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I am looking for the general stability of kubuntu | 22:11 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | of 13.109 (obviously) | 22:11 |
| penguin42 | seems fine for me here | 22:11 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Ok Kubuntu? ot Ubuntu+KDE? | 22:11 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I need to do an install on my new 1U server I am using for a desktop and android build box, and wanna stick with Kubuntu | 22:12 |
| penguin42 | GiGaHuRtZ: hmm, I'm not sure what I used as the install medium, but I don't have any of the unity stuff installed but I do have the kubuntu-desktop meta installed | 22:12 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I got it for dirt cheap on geeks.com before they closed | 22:12 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I will be using a usb stick | 22:12 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | penguin42: you dont haver mir installed either? (not that it would matter with kde, but it might bring /some/ sort issues) | 22:13 |
| penguin42 | GiGaHuRtZ: The thing I don't know is what would happen if I installed now; this machine was installed quite a while ago and regularly updated, I'm not sure if things will be different for a fresh install | 22:13 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Well I will probably just use a daily image of kubuntu | 22:13 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | And ofc upgrade constantly, as I use lots of PPA's | 22:14 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | To make my life easier | 22:14 |
| * GiGaHuRtZ wonders how many ppa's have been upgraded for saucy | 22:14 | |
| penguin42 | GiGaHuRtZ: One of the things I do is tend to just install the minimal server installs and then just throw on the kubuntu-desktop package | 22:15 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | yup | 22:15 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I(d rather not though. As I want to make sure I have everything needed for a proper kubuntu desktop, bar none. But in the case of using a ubuntu cd (server) than installing kubuntu meta desktpop, not a bad idea | 22:16 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | So you arent working on removing a bunch of uneeded bloat | 22:16 |
| penguin42 | yeh I mean that's the whole point of the kubuntu-desktop meta package | 22:16 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | And tons of Gnome/GTK3 stuff | 22:16 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | ofc it is | 22:16 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | This isnt my first rodeo | 22:17 |
| penguin42 | yeh but you never know when you've got a wild release that might throw you because it's angry | 22:17 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I've been around since badger. I just find getting decent for ubuntu to be like pulling teeth. That's why I came here, hoping the bar for entry might weed some of that out | 22:17 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | penguin42: right, hence why I am asking for real world experience | 22:18 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I mean ya I am installing on a 1U server, but its gonna be used a desktop and android build box. Nothing extremely critical and I fix most issues | 22:18 |
| penguin42 | GiGaHuRtZ: Yeh the KDE side is fine, if anything saucy feels a lot faster | 22:18 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Besides the recent one I had on Kubuntu. I followed one of those guides for trying to Deepin DE, BAD idea | 22:19 |
| k1l | the +1 are quite stable because the really bad updates get automatic testing in -proposed. but still some can slip through. but i would not recommend that for server | 22:19 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | The repo they tell you to use should not be used. | 22:19 |
| k1l | and "the bloat" doesnt slow your system down if you just use kubuntu-desktop | 22:19 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Itr changes your lsb_release, and ebven once you fix that, it totally confuses the system in other places | 22:19 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Your logs have lots of odd moans from systemd | 22:19 |
| k1l | and running a +1 just because one has problems with the irc support is not really the way to go :/ | 22:20 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | k1l: im talking about bloat as if yoyu install ubuntu desktop then install lkubuntu desktop. Because you will have all the unity stuff still, and all the apps. | 22:20 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | That are really just duplicates of Qt centric apps | 22:20 |
| penguin42 | GiGaHuRtZ: Yeh but the trick then is to remove one of the really low level libraries and watch the rest disappear | 22:20 |
| k1l | GiGaHuRtZ: and where comes the bloat in if you dont boot unity? | 22:20 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | k1l: all the apps? | 22:20 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | That show up in KDE even though they are meant for unitry/gtk3 | 22:21 |
| k1l | GiGaHuRtZ: all the apps dont get loaded if not needed. your kubuntu doesnt load nautilus (for example) just because ubuntu-dekstop is installed, too | 22:21 |
| mibofra | penguin42: omg but I didn't touch anything or changed settings of systemd or changed the logs | 22:21 |
| k1l | GiGaHuRtZ: so think about that myth you rely on. | 22:21 |
| mibofra | penguin42: so systemd is buggy too? | 22:22 |
| mibofra | (I can try with monit xD) | 22:22 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Not sure, but it's the only weird thing I can see in the logs other than the USB stuff itself | 22:22 |
| mibofra | I thimk was only a bit udev thus the bug if hal and the socket | 22:23 |
| mibofra | penguin42: but I don't think a sudo apt-get install --reinstall systemd-services fix it | 22:24 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: Hey I don't know why it's doing that but something odd is going on | 22:24 |
| mibofra | So this morning I've to setup monit to have a human log... | 22:24 |
| mibofra | penguin42: no I know but I've simply updated xD | 22:25 |
| mibofra | penguin42: maybe a fresh install is fine? | 22:25 |
| penguin42 | mibofra: I'd say it's worth it | 22:26 |
| mibofra | *I've thought about this since a bit | 22:26 |
| mibofra | penguin42: uhm | 22:26 |
| mibofra | penguin42: ok | 22:32 |
| mibofra | Anyway after 3-4 days I always find the solution of my problems so I hope it's this the case too. | 22:33 |
| mibofra | Good night to all the channel :) | 22:33 |
| mibofra | And good work developers :) | 22:34 |
| jakubo | anyone using intel 945? | 22:42 |
| wilee-nilee | jakubo The channel is state the issue for help format | 22:43 |
| penguin42 | wilee-nilee: TBF I think he did way up there - he was having problems with opengl2.1 being slow on it and wondered if it could be disabled | 22:47 |
| wilee-nilee | ah before I logged in | 22:49 |
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