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sarnoldtkamppeter_: I'm sorry to NAK openjpeg with so little time before featurefreeze, but that code needs serious attention before it should be exposed to untrusted data.04:37
maclincjwatson, hi, I have a problem about the ubuntukylin daily iso. The user cannot login neither in live mode nor after installation.06:05
maclinwe have proposed the Bug #1218172. I guess it's about the gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon packages. Can you help to confirm it?06:08
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1218172 in UbuntuKylin "lightdm cannot login (系统无法登录) on ubuntukylin daily iso(0822+)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121817206:08
infinitymaclin: Probably a better question for #ubuntu-desktop than here.06:19
maclininfinity, thanks. we do the test in ubuntu daily iso and the problem does not exist. So I guess this problem is about the image building process?06:23
infinitymaclin: Hard to say without someone who would be better at debugging it (like the #ubuntu-desktop people)06:25
maclinI find that the gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon get lost in UbuntuKylin daily ISO06:25
infinitymaclin: Hrm.  Curious.06:26
infinityWhere do the ubuntukylin seeds live?06:26
maclininfinity, we use the default-setting06:29
infinitymaclin: So, you've got bigger problems than just a few missing packages.  No compiz, no unity, no ubuntu-desktop.  This is probably our fault somewhere. :P06:36
infinitymaclin: Let me respin a new ISO and see if this was transient..06:38
mlankhorsthmz06:48
mlankhorstinfinity: yikes llvm-3.3 was kicked back to universe because mesa ftbfs because of libjsoncpp06:48
infinitymlankhorst: Looks like libjsoncpp needs an MIR...06:50
infinitymlankhorst: lcov as well.06:50
infinityhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg06:50
mlankhorsthm fun06:51
infinitymlankhorst: Happy filing.06:51
infinityAt least your life doesn't suck as hard as the people who thought location-service needed to depend on 7000 ruby gems.06:52
mlankhorstfortunately lcov only depends on debhelper06:54
infinityAnd libgd-gd2-perl, but that's already in main.06:55
RAOFinfinity: location-service is ruby? Sounds like muchos fun!06:56
infinityRAOF: It build-deps on some ruby doc generation thing, it looks like.06:56
infinityRAOF: Though, why this was chosen for a Canonical project (I assume this is a Canonical project?) is beyond me.06:56
infinityGiven the "libubuntu-" names, I'm going to go with probably yes. :P06:56
RAOF:)06:57
mlankhorstinfinity: meh, lcov loooks like an optional dependency, only used when codecoverage is added to DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS :P06:58
infinitymlankhorst: Alright, so we could patch that our or MIR it.  Whichever.06:58
mlankhorstbut shrug I'll mir it06:58
infinitymlankhorst: I'm assuming we're less lucky on the json thing, though.06:58
infinitymlankhorst: MIRs for build, debug, and analysis tools are generally non-controversial, compared to runtime stuff.06:59
mlankhorstah k06:59
mlankhorstI added one for lcov https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lcov/+bug/121820907:15
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1218209 in lcov (Ubuntu) "[MIR] lcov" [Undecided,New]07:15
mlankhorststill working on libjsoncpp07:15
mlankhorstbut meh from the bug reports in lcov it looks like it might be better to patch out codecoverage support..07:16
infinityHrm?  I see one bug in Ubuntu, 3 in Debian...07:17
infinityCertainly nothing terrible.07:17
mlankhorstyeah about gcc-4.7 support, makes me wonder if things even work :P07:17
infinityHrm, fair enough.07:19
mlankhorstI'll give it a shot, but if not could lcov be dropped as build-dep? it would probably fail if doing a manual build with codecoverage added to DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS though, but then again that would already be07:19
infinityPatching that out for now seems reasonable.07:19
infinityI'll just patch it out now.07:19
mlankhorstok :-)07:20
mlankhorstshall i mark the lcov bug as invalid then?07:24
infinityI'm on it.07:24
mlankhorstk07:24
infinitymlankhorst: I think I'll just leave it "new", so it magically pops up again if we re-add the build-dep after lcov is fixed. :P07:26
infinitymlankhorst: Hrm.  So, llvm-toolchain-3.2 uses a bundled jsoncpp.  Ick.07:35
infinitymlankhorst: But we could revert 3.3 to doing the same thing.  Or fix 3.2 to use the system library.  Only doing one or the other seems silly.07:37
infinityAhh, and indeed, if I merged 3.2 with Debian, it has the same "use the system version" change.07:39
infinitymlankhorst: So, yeah, that's probably the right thing to do, so carry on with the MIR.  Mention that it affects both 3.3 and 3.2 (or will, after we merge it :P)07:40
mlankhorsthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libjsoncpp/+bug/121822007:42
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1218220 in libjsoncpp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libjsoncpp" [Undecided,New]07:42
mlankhorstinfinity: but llvm 3.2 will no longer be in main after mesa builds against 3.3 :P07:45
infinityIs mesa really the only thing that keeps llvm in main?07:46
mlankhorsti think so07:46
infinityHrm.07:47
infinityGiven how stagnant this is upstream, maybe I should just revert to the static copy for now, then.07:47
infinityThe libjson0 package also has no symbols file, or other such fanciness.07:48
infinityWhich, of course, a static version wouldn't need.07:48
* infinity ponders.07:48
mlankhorstah right, I missed that07:48
infinityOkay, so, when you mean to remove libjsoncpp0, don't scare the crap out of yourself and type "apt-get purge libjson0"07:49
mlankhorsthaha07:50
mlankhorstinteresting, it has no issues trying to remove upstart here..07:51
infinityYeah, maybe I'll just re-enable the static copy for now.  It's a few thousand lines of public domain cargo-cult, might actually be safer than a shared lib with lousy versioning.07:51
mlankhorsthm probably07:51
infinityWish I'd come to this conclusion before I made you file bugs... And before I uploaded. :P07:52
mlankhorstlol07:52
mlankhorsthey sometimes showing people they're wrong is best done by doing exactly what they want you to do07:52
infinityAlright, uploaded AGAIN. :P07:56
mlankhorstinfinity: will it promote the build to main because llvm-toolchain is still being kicked back to universe?07:57
infinitymlankhorst: llvm-toolchain-3.3 is still in main.  component-mismatches wants me to move it, that doesn't mean I have done so.07:58
mlankhorstah07:58
infinitymlankhorst: So, once it's built, retries on the mesa builds should work.07:58
mlankhorstyeah07:59
infinityNow, I totally didn't test build this, cause I'm a cowboy like that, so watch it fail...07:59
mlankhorstif you think you're rough, I didn't look twice before crossing the road today08:00
infinityDon't forget to look up for Cesnas making emergency landings.08:01
infinityCessnas*08:01
mlankhorst:D08:01
infinityOkay, the Internet is kinda awesome.08:02
infinityI had no idea Cessna actually listed prices online.  If there was a shop with a "buy now" button, I'd be set.08:02
pkernThe Internet is full of cats.08:03
infinityOnly 26M for a top of the line Citation, a bargain.08:03
mlankhorstinfinity: hahaha08:03
mlankhorstbut it only takes 3 hours to build on armhf, I'll get some coffee :)08:15
infinitymlankhorst: 39 minutes on PPC though, so at least I get a test build soon. :P08:17
Laneycan we haz emails about component-mismatches-proposed?08:17
infinityHrm, yeah, we may have failed to advertise its existence.08:18
infinityThen again, most people aren't aware of the non-proposed version either, from what I can tell.08:18
LaneyI don't mean advertisement08:18
LaneyI mean "New component-mismatches"08:18
infinityOh, you mean emails to -release on changes.08:18
Laneythat thing08:18
infinityThat could be noisier than expected.  Not sure.08:18
infinityPerhaps still a good idea.08:19
LaneyProbably if we have both going08:19
Laneybut still, it's remarkably easy to miss, at least for me08:19
sil2100infinity: hello! Can I poke you about moving unity-scope-mediascanner from the NEW queue? I see the sync request is there and it would be cool to get it out to the universe (tm)08:22
infinitysil2100: W: unity-scope-mediascanner source: field-name-typo-in-dep5-copyright file -> files (line 6)08:31
infinitysil2100: Care to fix your copyright file in bzr?08:31
sil2100Oh noes08:31
sil2100Doing that08:31
infinityOtherwise, looks fine.08:32
sil2100What a typo... thanks for accepting!08:34
cjwatsonmaclin: gnome-session is removed as part of the line "apt-get purge --auto-remove -y ibus ibus-gtk ibus-gtk3 python-ibus ibus-pinyin-db-android libopencc1" in ubuntukylin-default-settings/hooks/chroot08:50
cjwatsonmaclin: So perhaps you need to work out some more subtle way to do that08:50
maclincjwatson, thanks, we will check the problem of dependency08:55
LaneyWe have gnome-settings-daemon depending on ibus so removing that is going to be problematic08:56
maclinLaney, the dependency between ibus and gnome-settings-daemon is added recently?09:00
Laneymaclin: Some time this cycle; let me check when09:00
seb128this month09:00
seb128that's quite recent yes09:00
seb128but that was in the work for some months, we emailed desktop/devel list about that mid-cycle09:00
Laney Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:22:42 -040009:01
LaneyBut indeed it was no surprise09:01
maclinyes, the problem appears since 22th this month09:01
jbichamaclin: you guys are subscribed to ubuntu-devel, right?09:05
seb128Laney, maclin: it would be much easier for everyone if UbuntuKylin was using the same input method framework than Ubuntu, not sure why we can't reconciliate both on ibus :/09:07
LaneyYes, but I can't pretend to understand the issues there09:08
LaneyDon't we have some new guys to work on this stuff now? :-)09:08
maclinseb128,we have to choose fcitx as default instead of ibus.09:09
seb128maclin, you don't "have" to, you decide to do that ;-)09:09
seb128maclin, you could add the input methods engines you need to ibus instead09:09
maclinseb128,yes,it's suitable for us:)09:12
LaneyI thought you could use im-config to configure this stuff anyway09:12
Laneyor do they conflict?09:12
maclinseb128, Laney, if we don't remove ibus, the default input method will be ibus09:13
Laneymaclin: If you don't do anything else, that is true - I'm saying that I thought this was the problem that im-config solves09:14
maclinLaney, does im-config change the default option in default-settings?09:17
Laneymaclin: I'm not sure how you set a system default with it09:18
LaneyYou could talk to happyaron though09:18
infinityim-config  invoked  from  the  root  account  updates  the   system   configuration   file09:19
infinity^-- From the manpage.09:20
infinitySo invoking im-config during image build should set it system-wide.09:20
cjwatsonman --nj  IYF09:20
cjwatson(for pasting)09:20
infinityBut I like all the extra spaces!09:20
LaneyIt made it scan in an exciting way09:21
cjwatsonTo the tune of the Flintstones?09:21
Laneymaclin: So yeah. I'd look into that if I were you. Yay for fewer forced removals and unpleasant surprises.09:21
* infinity is not having a yabba dabba do time.09:22
maclinjbicha, just see your message, yes, we did09:23
maclinLaney, thanks for your suggestion :-)09:24
infinitymlankhorst: mesa built on powerpc, I call it a success.  Screw the other arches.09:25
Laneymaclin: Bear in mind beta 1 is quite soon ;-)09:25
mlankhorstinfinity: hah I just wanted to look if I could find llvm in the archive before retrying mesa builds:P09:26
mlankhorstother !armhf are finishing up too09:27
jbichamaclin: what I mean is that we announced a call for testing several weeks ago and didn't hear from Kylin that there could be a problem until today09:28
cjwatson(If you've ever read the poem "Paradise Lost", read its first one and a half lines in light of my previous comment; you'll never read it the same way again)09:29
infinityThe meter's a bit off.09:30
infinityOr my copy has an extra word yours doesn't.09:30
cjwatsonYou have to read "Of" on the up-beat, yes.09:30
infinityIt's certainly catchy.09:31
maclinjbicha, sorry to say that we miss the testing call...but we will catch up...09:33
infinitymlankhorst: I'm going to try to get some sleep.  I leave the armhf mesa retry to you.09:43
mlankhorstsure09:43
xnoxplease hint upstart to go past mysql-5.5 adt failure ( 5.5.32-0ubuntu3 ) mysql never passed. So it's not a regression that upstart is causing.09:44
* xnox did ping #-server about fixing mysql adt.09:44
sil2100It seems I'm not really knowledgable about this, but can anyone tell me why libcolumbus cannot leave -proposed? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#libcolumbus doesn't list any particular problems10:37
xnoxsil2100: please look in both reports listed at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/10:37
xnoxsil2100: trying: libcolumbus10:38
xnoxskipped: libcolumbus (16 <- 53)10:38
xnox    got: 88+0: i-8810:38
xnox    * i386: unity-lens-applications10:38
xnoxsil2100: it causes unity-lens-applications to be uninstallable.10:38
xnox(on i386)10:38
sil2100xnox: thanks for clearing that up! Didn't really know how to interpret this output10:39
xnoxsil2100: yeah, it's criptic, but one gets used to it. Usually search for package name in question, as low down the list as possible. As it could be tried a few times, in combination with other packages. In the end it will list what breaks / is uninstable. From that point, one can open e.g. saucy+saucy-proposed chroot to see for one self why combinations of a&b fail to install together.10:40
sil2100xnox: makes sense now, thanks ;)10:41
xnoxsil2100: in this case it's easy, unity-lens-applications still depends on libcolumbus0-0 instead of libcolumbus110:42
cjwatsonsil2100: See also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration10:46
mlankhorstyay, armhf mesa build started11:18
xnoxcan mysql-5.5 adt failure be hinted through for upstart? a new mysql which fixes it has been upload, but it will take at least 3 hours to build & it would be great to have upstart though to release pocket before FF & Beta1 migration block.13:40
xnoxLaney: ^13:40
Laneyxnox: I'd rather see if it works properly13:44
Laneyif necessary I'll unblock upstart13:44
rbasakI'm not convinced mysql adt failures were really blocking anything13:44
rbasakSince they've never passed13:44
Laneythat doesn't matter13:45
cjwatsonautopkgtests in proposed-migration aren't a ratchet13:45
cjwatsonThey must pass or they block13:45
rbasakeg. I got 5.5.32-0ubuntu3 migrated despite the failures13:45
rbasakOr did someone ack that manually?13:45
cjwatsonThat would have been hinted manually then, or else there was a failure in the tools13:45
Laneypeople asked p-m to skip them13:45
rbasakAh13:45
cjwatsoncjwatson:force-badtest mysql-5.5/5.5.32-0ubuntu113:45
cjwatson(older version, but)13:45
LaneyGood to see things being fixed rather than ignored13:46
xnoxrbasak: failed adt mysql is blocking upstart migration to -release pocket.13:46
rbasakI ignored it because I didn't think it was blocking anything, and therefore not urgent.13:48
rbasakI'm annoyed that a failing dep8 test was written and uploaded and never passed.13:48
rbasakRather than helping, it feels that uploading tests that fail from the beginning just create extra work.13:49
jodhhttps://staging.jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com anyone ? :)13:50
cjwatsonrbasak: That is certainly true.13:51
Laneyrbasak: did you see the review of failures that pitti posted to ubuntu-devel some time ago?13:52
Laneythere's a couple of maas ones that fail too13:52
rbasakLaney: I did. But none of those are related to any work I've done, and I didn't see them as a priority to pick up over the work I'm already doing.13:53
rbasakWhen I touch a package I generally try and fix anything outstanding with it. mysql was an exception because I was reverting yet another problem that didn't get tested before upload.13:54
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xnoxrbasak: sure. but failing mysql-5.5 test will block migrating _all_ packages from -proposed to -release which are listed in Depends:*. Thus a failing test adt test, always blocks migrations. Unless it's a package with no Depends.13:58
rbasakxnox: right. I understand that now.13:58
xnoxok.13:58
Laneyhalp14:46
LaneyI can't reproduce the problems p-m has with gst-plugins-{good,bad}1.014:46
Laneymaybe they want hinting? there are mutually updated conflicts/replaces14:52
cjwatsonI haven't looked, but in general mutual conflicts won't get autohinted14:53
cjwatsonso you probably want to "easy" the relevant set of packages14:53
LaneyWorth a punt14:53
cjwatsonautohinting basically works off Depends as I understand it14:53
Laneycjwatson: yeah that worked15:16
cjwatsoncool15:17
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smartboyhwskaet, that list should be correct, although I'm thinking that some people might be good to be included too....15:50
skaetsmartboyhw,  if there are other names that should be included,  please respond to the email with them.  :-)   Best if we have backups identified, etc.15:52
smartboyhwskaet, um, I might get killed for over-interfering if I post them...15:53
smartboyhwskaet, I can private message you, and you can ask the flavour leads15:53
smartboyhw:)15:53
skaetsmartboyhw,  what ever works.  :-)15:54
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bdmurrayCould an SRU team member have a look at my ubuntu-release-upgrader uploads?20:53
slangasekbdmurray: looking21:49
bdmurrayslangasek: thanks21:50
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phillwRiddell: does kubuntu have ppc tester(s) yet, if not - would you like me include kubuntu in the call for PPC testers on Monday?22:21
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