| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-2 to: Track: | Coordinating with "Country Teams" | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21868/country-teams/ | ||
| YoBoY | hi | 13:54 |
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| dholbach | hey hey | 13:58 |
| philipballew | hello YoBoY | 13:58 |
| dholbach | who wants to join in on the hangout? | 13:58 |
| dholbach | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1308-country-teams for notes | 13:59 |
| YoBoY | dholbach, why not, but I don't know if I will talk ;) | 14:00 |
| rickspencer3 | o/ | 14:13 |
| airurando | can people not join two teams on the LTP? | 14:16 |
| dholbach | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ | 14:19 |
| dholbach | airurando, want to join in as well? | 14:19 |
| YoBoY | bonjour rickspencer3 | 14:19 |
| rickspencer3 | bonjour YoBoY | 14:20 |
| airurando | dholbach: no thanks I'm happy in here | 14:20 |
| YoBoY | airurando, yes you can be on two teams | 14:20 |
| airurando | YoBoY: would it not be easy to ask people in adjacent locos to join both so that events in both areas would be available to them? | 14:22 |
| YoBoY | don't know ^^ I think people in that case are already doing that (not joining the locoteams but register to the different informations sources like ML, facebook, loco portal, …) | 14:24 |
| airurando1 | if the LoCo Team weekly Hangout kicks off (and I hope it does) where will this be announced and advertised? | 14:45 |
| YoBoY | I was not very helpfull ^^" | 14:46 |
| * dholbach hugs YoBoY | 14:46 | |
| dholbach | airurando1, definitely on the loco-contacts list, probably on the fridge? | 14:46 |
| dholbach | I don't know | 14:46 |
| YoBoY | I think this can be anounced on the loco council blog and promoted on the fridge | 14:46 |
| * YoBoY hugs dholbach | 14:46 | |
| dholbach | maybe philipballew can take note to spread the news as far as possible :) | 14:46 |
| dholbach | YoBoY, do you have good ties to the french translators? | 14:47 |
| dholbach | I could need some help with some unreviewed strings in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide/ ;-) | 14:47 |
| dholbach | basically the whole guide is translated into French! | 14:47 |
| YoBoY | dholbach, yes, sure, why ? :) | 14:47 |
| YoBoY | ok, you want me to HL them to review this quickly ? :D | 14:48 |
| airurando | thanks dholbach, YoBoY and philipballew | 14:48 |
| philipballew | thank you as well airurando | 14:48 |
| dholbach | YoBoY, I mean it's not urgent - I just saw that the translations are all there and that it would be nice if we could get the level of completeness up to >= 70% | 14:49 |
| dholbach | because then we can publish it and put it into the archive :) | 14:49 |
| YoBoY | ok :) I'll send them an email to review that | 14:50 |
| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-2 to: Track: Community | develop | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21954/community-1308-qml-extensions/ | ||
| lool | hangout URL? | 15:01 |
| dholbach | anyone else who wants to join in? | 15:02 |
| cjwatson | yes please | 15:02 |
| beuno | I can join if there are any myapps questions | 15:02 |
| beuno | not sure that there will though | 15:03 |
| cjwatson | well, your answer is "not for 13.10", right? :) | 15:03 |
| dholbach | beuno, I guess we can ping you | 15:03 |
| elopio | dholbach: I want to join. | 15:03 |
| dholbach | anyone else? | 15:03 |
| beuno | I'll listen in | 15:03 |
| beuno | cjwatson, you know me so well! | 15:03 |
| dholbach | notes are here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1308-community-1308-qml-extensions | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | I'll be slightly laggy at first, probably, doing a somewhat bandwidth-intensive bit of LP testing | 15:04 |
| alecu | has it started yet? | 15:05 |
| gatox_ | alecu: it seems not | 15:05 |
| elopio | it's starting. | 15:06 |
| alecu | yay | 15:06 |
| dholbach | :-D | 15:06 |
| dholbach | please help taking notes | 15:06 |
| jdstrand | huh, I only have audio | 15:08 |
| dholbach | I can see Zoltan just fine | 15:08 |
| gatox_ | QUESTION: how is going to be handled when i want to install an app that depends on some qml plugin to be installed but that plugin is not part of the system by default? | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | I think we'll get to that | 15:11 |
| dholbach | can somebody help taking notes? :) | 15:12 |
| sergiusens | jdstrand: I ran into that a bit, browser issue | 15:13 |
| jdstrand | dholbach: weird, it is black here. video worked in the previous session | 15:13 |
| sergiusens | gatox_: that's the topic of discussion :-) | 15:13 |
| dholbach | anyone else with the same problem as jdstrand^? | 15:13 |
| * jdstrand restarts the browser | 15:13 | |
| jdstrand | that worked | 15:14 |
| jdstrand | weird | 15:14 |
| dholbach | yeah, weird | 15:14 |
| jdstrand | yes-- the reverse domains could allow for sharing between app developers in apparmor too | 15:16 |
| jdstrand | it would require work in click-apparmor and possibly an update to the security manifest (needs to be discussed, but we designed it so this should be possible in the future) | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | right | 15:17 |
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| alecu | QUESTION: perhaps we can also list the contras to having extensions? | 15:37 |
| alecu | like dependency issues | 15:38 |
| alecu | (dll hell) | 15:38 |
| dobey | writing c++ and compiling it for multiple archs | 15:38 |
| doko | cjwatson, are qml extensions built using qmake, or cmake? | 15:40 |
| dobey | yes | 15:41 |
| dobey | doko: some use qmake, some use cmake; depends on who writes it and what system they prefer | 15:41 |
| bzoltan | dobey: doko:99.99% qmake | 15:41 |
| doko | hooray | 15:41 |
| alecu | yay | 15:42 |
| bzoltan | dobey: doko: as 99.98% comes from Qt | 15:42 |
| cjwatson | doko: aha, you're here | 15:42 |
| dobey | bzoltan: right. that's probable to change when people who aren't Qt write some | 15:42 |
| cjwatson | doko: how did you get on with the multiarch stack for qml extensions? | 15:43 |
| bzoltan | dobey: maybe | 15:43 |
| cjwatson | I know you got partway up that stack but I couldn't report on how far | 15:43 |
| dobey | do we want to shove libraries in the click packages of things that depend on them? | 15:43 |
| cjwatson | that's going to be the reality for 13.10, for things not in the base sdk | 15:44 |
| doko | cjwatson, never touched it | 15:44 |
| dobey | it just sounds like it will be a horrible pain if any of those libraries have security updates that need pushed out | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | it will | 15:45 |
| alecu | dobey: our security model depends on the container. The apps are very restricted on what they can do\ | 15:45 |
| cjwatson | but there's not much we can do for 13.10 | 15:45 |
| cjwatson | doko: huh, I thought it was on your plate | 15:45 |
| cjwatson | doko: didn't you do some work on qt multiarch metadata? | 15:45 |
| doko | no, that was making unity & friends cross-buildable | 15:46 |
| wolfslord | what about using plain github repositories together with a package repository or list? Something like npm, or Composer | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | doko: maybe there was a communications problem. I'll talk to Steve, I think we need to budget time for this somewhere | 15:47 |
| sergiusens | lool: GoogleTalkPlugin makes my fans go wild | 15:48 |
| netcurli | but right now you have to tweak things to get other libraries that get linked to it | 15:51 |
| lool | sergiusens: eh | 15:52 |
| dholbach | PPAs might be a problematic in terms of work-flow, as people will have to set up GPG keys, sign up to Launchpad, upload the keys and stuff | 15:52 |
| cjwatson | OTOH the overarching design is that this is for a minority of developers | 15:54 |
| dholbach | mh, it'd be interesting to hear from the app competition how many folks used c++ code | 15:56 |
| alecu | dholbach: gatox_ used c++ for his apps | 15:57 |
| alecu | (or at least, he wanted to use c++ for oauth, not sure if he moved forward with it) | 15:58 |
| dobey | alecu: one shouldn't need to, for plain oauth, if using online-accounts, i think | 15:59 |
| alecu | dobey: he wanted to login against his custom web site, and there's no UOA for it | 16:00 |
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| alecu | dobey: and making a UOA plugin for it sounded like overkill | 16:00 |
| dobey | alecu: making a UOA plug-in for normal oauth is pretty easy. and UOA is the way to add accounts to use on the system | 16:01 |
| dobey | alecu: apps aren't supposed to be doing their own account management, afaik | 16:01 |
| dobey | anyway, session is over :) | 16:01 |
| * dobey goes to different room | 16:02 | |
| === alecu is now known as alecu_lunch | ||
| === alecu_lunch is now known as alecu | ||
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