=== udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-2 to: Track: | Coordinating with "Country Teams" | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21868/country-teams/ [13:54] hi [13:58] hey hey [13:58] hello YoBoY [13:58] who wants to join in on the hangout? [13:59] http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1308-country-teams for notes [14:00] dholbach, why not, but I don't know if I will talk ;) [14:13] o/ [14:16] can people not join two teams on the LTP? [14:19] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ [14:19] airurando, want to join in as well? [14:19] bonjour rickspencer3 [14:20] bonjour YoBoY [14:20] dholbach: no thanks I'm happy in here [14:20] airurando, yes you can be on two teams [14:22] YoBoY: would it not be easy to ask people in adjacent locos to join both so that events in both areas would be available to them? [14:24] don't know ^^ I think people in that case are already doing that (not joining the locoteams but register to the different informations sources like ML, facebook, loco portal, …) [14:45] if the LoCo Team weekly Hangout kicks off (and I hope it does) where will this be announced and advertised? [14:46] I was not very helpfull ^^" [14:46] * dholbach hugs YoBoY [14:46] airurando1, definitely on the loco-contacts list, probably on the fridge? [14:46] I don't know [14:46] I think this can be anounced on the loco council blog and promoted on the fridge [14:46] * YoBoY hugs dholbach [14:46] maybe philipballew can take note to spread the news as far as possible :) [14:47] YoBoY, do you have good ties to the french translators? [14:47] I could need some help with some unreviewed strings in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide/ ;-) [14:47] basically the whole guide is translated into French! [14:47] dholbach, yes, sure, why ? :) [14:48] ok, you want me to HL them to review this quickly ? :D [14:48] thanks dholbach, YoBoY and philipballew [14:48] thank you as well airurando [14:49] YoBoY, I mean it's not urgent - I just saw that the translations are all there and that it would be nice if we could get the level of completeness up to >= 70% [14:49] because then we can publish it and put it into the archive :) [14:50] ok :) I'll send them an email to review that === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-2 to: Track: Community | develop | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21954/community-1308-qml-extensions/ [15:01] hangout URL? [15:02] anyone else who wants to join in? [15:02] yes please [15:02] I can join if there are any myapps questions [15:03] not sure that there will though [15:03] well, your answer is "not for 13.10", right? :) [15:03] beuno, I guess we can ping you [15:03] dholbach: I want to join. [15:03] anyone else? [15:03] I'll listen in [15:03] cjwatson, you know me so well! [15:04] notes are here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1308-community-1308-qml-extensions [15:04] I'll be slightly laggy at first, probably, doing a somewhat bandwidth-intensive bit of LP testing [15:05] has it started yet? [15:05] alecu: it seems not [15:06] it's starting. [15:06] yay [15:06] :-D [15:06] please help taking notes [15:08] huh, I only have audio [15:08] I can see Zoltan just fine [15:10] QUESTION: how is going to be handled when i want to install an app that depends on some qml plugin to be installed but that plugin is not part of the system by default? [15:11] I think we'll get to that [15:12] can somebody help taking notes? :) [15:13] jdstrand: I ran into that a bit, browser issue [15:13] dholbach: weird, it is black here. video worked in the previous session [15:13] gatox_: that's the topic of discussion :-) [15:13] anyone else with the same problem as jdstrand^? [15:13] * jdstrand restarts the browser [15:14] that worked [15:14] weird [15:14] yeah, weird [15:16] yes-- the reverse domains could allow for sharing between app developers in apparmor too [15:17] it would require work in click-apparmor and possibly an update to the security manifest (needs to be discussed, but we designed it so this should be possible in the future) [15:17] right === doko_ is now known as doko [15:37] QUESTION: perhaps we can also list the contras to having extensions? [15:38] like dependency issues [15:38] (dll hell) [15:38] writing c++ and compiling it for multiple archs [15:40] cjwatson, are qml extensions built using qmake, or cmake? [15:41] yes [15:41] doko: some use qmake, some use cmake; depends on who writes it and what system they prefer [15:41] dobey: doko:99.99% qmake [15:41] hooray [15:42] yay [15:42] dobey: doko: as 99.98% comes from Qt [15:42] doko: aha, you're here [15:42] bzoltan: right. that's probable to change when people who aren't Qt write some [15:43] doko: how did you get on with the multiarch stack for qml extensions? [15:43] dobey: maybe [15:43] I know you got partway up that stack but I couldn't report on how far [15:43] do we want to shove libraries in the click packages of things that depend on them? [15:44] that's going to be the reality for 13.10, for things not in the base sdk [15:44] cjwatson, never touched it [15:44] it just sounds like it will be a horrible pain if any of those libraries have security updates that need pushed out [15:45] it will [15:45] dobey: our security model depends on the container. The apps are very restricted on what they can do\ [15:45] but there's not much we can do for 13.10 [15:45] doko: huh, I thought it was on your plate [15:45] doko: didn't you do some work on qt multiarch metadata? [15:46] no, that was making unity & friends cross-buildable [15:47] what about using plain github repositories together with a package repository or list? Something like npm, or Composer [15:47] doko: maybe there was a communications problem. I'll talk to Steve, I think we need to budget time for this somewhere [15:48] lool: GoogleTalkPlugin makes my fans go wild [15:51] but right now you have to tweak things to get other libraries that get linked to it [15:52] sergiusens: eh [15:52] PPAs might be a problematic in terms of work-flow, as people will have to set up GPG keys, sign up to Launchpad, upload the keys and stuff [15:54] OTOH the overarching design is that this is for a minority of developers [15:56] mh, it'd be interesting to hear from the app competition how many folks used c++ code [15:57] dholbach: gatox_ used c++ for his apps [15:58] (or at least, he wanted to use c++ for oauth, not sure if he moved forward with it) [15:59] alecu: one shouldn't need to, for plain oauth, if using online-accounts, i think [16:00] dobey: he wanted to login against his custom web site, and there's no UOA for it === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/community-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/29/%23ubuntu-uds-community-2.html [16:00] dobey: and making a UOA plugin for it sounded like overkill [16:01] alecu: making a UOA plug-in for normal oauth is pretty easy. and UOA is the way to add accounts to use on the system [16:01] alecu: apps aren't supposed to be doing their own account management, afaik [16:01] anyway, session is over :) [16:02] * dobey goes to different room === alecu is now known as alecu_lunch === alecu_lunch is now known as alecu