[00:00] <downbeam> ya i tried em all
[00:00] <downbeam> deezed ^
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> downbeam, what is the formatting?
[00:00] <deezed> downbeam: is it fat32?
[00:00] <downbeam> wilee-nilee, whats the formatting... o i cant even find it
[00:00] <downbeam> deezed, how do i find that out?
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> downbeam, have you looked in the left panel in home when you plug them in?
[00:01] <downbeam> wilee-nilee, ya
[00:02] <deezed> downbeam: can you see your drive in the left side of your file manager as well?
[00:02] <eden_> it looks that gnome-shell doesn't allow automatically i have to manually edit it why is that?
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> downbeam, plug them in and run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the text
[00:02] <downbeam> deezed, i use archive manager and it wont even see it
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> eden_, You have to be detailed.
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> eden_, what is the end goal?
[00:03] <eden_> wilee-nilee, i am usiing ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and i noticed that after i install ccsm, and fusion icon
[00:03] <downbeam> wilee-nilee, how do you pastebin?
[00:04] <eden_> wilee-nilee, i want the gnome-shell to load without telling it so
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin
[00:04] <eden_> wilee-nilee, from the startup applications
[00:04] <deezed> downbeam: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[00:04] <eden_> wilee-nilee, or find the root of problem
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> eden_, pick it from the login and it will go there if you are using the auto login.
[00:05] <eden_> wilee-nilee, there?
[00:05] <deezed> downbeam: sorry, but did you tried with other pen-drive? or an external hd?
[00:05] <eden_> wilee-nilee, i don't use the auto login
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> eden_, there=gnome shell
[00:05] <downbeam> wilee-nilee, deezed can you see it or how do i make you see it?
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> eden_, How did you install the gnome shell?
[00:05] <deezed> downbeam: after paste, you can send us the link
[00:06] <downbeam> deezed, i tried all the pen drives
[00:06] <downbeam> deezed, wilee-nilee http://paste.ubuntu.com/6038471/
[00:06] <deezed> downbeam: and it always happens, right?
[00:06] <downbeam> deezed, ya i can never find it
[00:07] <Bowbles> I am trying to add  vhost to apache2 in Ubuntu, and the service reload is failing. However, there are no errors on the console, nor in the /var/log/apache2/ dir. Any ideas where else I can look?
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> downbeam, you on an apple computer?
[00:07] <downbeam> wilee-nilee, nope just an asus
[00:07] <eden_> wilee-nilee, i think from a ppa
[00:07] <eden_> wilee-nilee, but that was long time ago
[00:08] <jrib> Bowbles: what makes you say it is failing?
[00:08] <downbeam> how do you update all of your particions?? deezed wilee-nilee ???
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> downbeam, The usbs are formatted with efi gpt that is a problem.
[00:09] <Bowbles> jrib: it says fail on the far right in red in the terminal
[00:09] <downbeam> wilee-nilee, how do i fix?
[00:09] <deezed> downbeam: can you try 'sudo mount /dev/sdb2' ?
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> eden_, what release is this?
[00:09] <eden_> wilee-nilee, 12.04
[00:09] <lovinggirl> Any pinoy
[00:10] <lovinggirl> Hi
[00:10] <eden_> wilee-nilee, i don't if that helps but i have a hybrid laptop and i have some problems with bumblebee recently the "configure apps " doesn't work
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> eden_, the gnome shell is in the repos, you need to remember what you have done. If it is correct choosing it from the login will default it to that choice at the login.
[00:10] <lovinggirl> Hi
[00:10] <lovinggirl> Tao po
[00:10] <deezed> downbeam: ok, is there anything saved in these usb drives?
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> eden_, I think this is beyond my help.
[00:11] <downbeam> i'm trying to burn rosetta stone to it deezed
[00:11] <deezed> downbeam: ok, but can you format it first?
[00:12] <downbeam> i cant find it deezed
[00:12] <jrib> Bowbles: and when you revert your changes?
[00:12] <deezed> downbeam: you can try to run gparted
[00:12] <deezed> downbeam: and then format it with this software
[00:12] <downbeam> k how deezed
[00:13] <lord_daemon> hello!
[00:13] <deezed> downbeam: open your panel, write down gparted
[00:13] <Bowbles> jrib: works fine with just the default vhost enabled
[00:13] <downbeam> i just tried that deezed
[00:13] <deezed> downbeam: and?
[00:13] <Bowbles> I am pretty much using this exact vhost config: https://code.google.com/p/pcaphar/issues/detail?id=18#c11
[00:13] <downbeam> it said sorry no results deezed
[00:13] <Bowbles> And I am just looking for more logging as to why it failed to start
[00:14] <deezed> downbeam: can you open a terminal and run 'sudo gparted'
[00:14] <jrib> Bowbles: you can try "apache2ctl configtest"
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> gparted has to be installed
[00:14] <deezed> wilee-nilee: oh, sorry, its not ubuntu's 13.04 default?
[00:15] <downbeam> i didn't have it so i just installed it deezed
[00:15] <deezed> downbeam: oh, ok. now can you open it, and see your drive?
[00:16] <Bowbles> jrib: PERFECT, thanks much
[00:16] <Coburn> does anyone know what package kde's beeps, bloops and chords are kept in?
[00:16] <Bowbles> It looks like I may have forgotten to enable the module
[00:16] <downbeam> ya i can see it but i dont know how to format it yett deezed
[00:17] <blazem8> hi, does anyone know how to set MasqueradeAddress in the latest pure-ftpd?
[00:18] <Matisse> hey
[00:18] <Matisse> whats the diff between quantal-updates and quantal-backports?
[00:18] <Matisse> is updates for security issues?
[00:18] <deezed> downbeam: hey, thats for mint, but I think it will help you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9zctyRP434
[00:18] <jrib> !backports | Matisse
[00:18] <jrib> !repos | Matisse
[00:19] <Matisse> is it possible to add quantal repos with low-prio so that I have to manually choose for updates and nothing is done without my decision?
[00:20] <Matisse> I'd like to update libreoffice cause is has annoying bugs...
[00:21] <BoTB22323> How trusted is the program Ssh?
[00:21] <chrispingu2> BoTB22323: lol..
[00:21] <Matisse> great
[00:21] <deezed> BoTB22323: good question
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> Matisse, That is a bit of a over response to a single apps problems, you can mess up the whole system messing with the repos, try the PPA.
[00:23] <lacy20> #join ubuntu-cn
[00:23] <BoTB22323> Well i was connected to several people, using Ssh.
[00:23] <BoTB22323> But it was seemed that i was traced back.
[00:23] <BoTB22323> Im wondering how.
[00:23] <BoTB22323> If i have dynamic ip.
[00:23] <lacy20> join #ubuntu-cn
[00:23] <BoTB22323> How trusted is ssh >.>
[00:23] <DankenseN> k
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> lacy20, /#ubuntu-cn
[00:23] <tuldee> hello
[00:23] <deezed> downbeam: did it work?
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> lacy20, /j #ubuntu-cn
[00:24] <lacy20> i forgot it
[00:24] <lacy20> thx
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[00:24] <downbeam> deezed, i dont know yett i gotta pis and im figuring out gparted
[00:24] <deezed> downbeam: lol ok
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> !tmi | downbeam
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> lol
[00:25] <Matisse> wilee-nilee, can I use launchpad for 3.6 if 3.5 is installed?
[00:25] <Matisse> launchpad for 3.5 has same version...
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> Matisse, what launchpad link are you referencing?
[00:26] <Matisse> you mean this ?  https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-3-6
[00:26] <downbeam> deezed, hey is this a gpt operation???
[00:28] <Matisse> Matisse, https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa
[00:28] <Matisse> wilee-nilee, -1
[00:29] <deezed> downbeam: somehow yes
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> Matisse, A ppa will upgrade the packages I use this one. https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0  However I have to wonder if these bugs are not fixable, so far your methodology and thinking is a bit off, I say this as kindly as possible. ;)
[00:30] <downbeam> ok fuck then it wont work because i have an iso to usb program that wont find it either
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> !lanuage | downbeam
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> !language | downbeam
[00:31] <deezed> wilee-nilee: thanks
[00:31] <Matisse> wilee-nilee, maybe they are fixed... wont find out if the version stays the same...
[00:31] <melanie>  i have just installed kubuntu 12.04 on a dell vostro 1000 for a friend. unfortunately, audio does not seem to be working. would anyone here be able to assist with this?
[00:32] <Matisse> melanie, 1st describe what you mean with "not working"
[00:32] <melanie> Matisse: there is no sound
[00:32] <Matisse> what did you try?
[00:33] <Matisse> try in bash:  alsa-mixer
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> Matisse, I believe that apps like libreoffice are locked to the release, however fixes for bugs would be released.
[00:33] <melanie> Matisse: i've tried adding various lines to the end of alsa-base.conf
[00:34] <Matisse> wilee-nilee, what does locked mean - not supposed to be updated?
[00:34] <Ari-Yang> Matisse, what's not suppose to be updated?...
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Matisse, version updates
[00:34] <melanie> Matisse: things like "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=0 model=eapd" -- a suggestion from ubuntu forums
[00:35] <Matisse> melanie, can you provide the forum link?
[00:37] <downbeam> deD\]]\\]
[00:37] <melanie> Matisse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1552491
[00:40] <Matisse> melanie, reboot done?
[00:41] <melanie> Matisse: yes... many reboots
[00:41] <Matisse> melanie, and the line you copied might be wrong, if you get other output when using the command   head -n 1 /proc/asound/card*/codec#*
[00:42] <downbeam> wilee-nilee, do you know of a decent iso to usb program?
[00:43] <melanie> Matisse: codec#0 is Conexant ID 2c06 and codec#1 is SigmaTel STA9200
[00:44] <_gazza_> downbean: have you tried UNetbootin
[00:45] <Matisse> melanie, please use a net paste, like http://pastebin.com/   for posting output with >1 line
[00:45] <melanie> Matisse: i only posted one line, which is why i did not use pastebin
[00:47] <Matisse> thats all? didnt except that :)
[00:47] <melanie> ahhh, yea, that was all
[00:49] <ben_linus> i cant dual boot ubuntu & windoze 8 any ideas ??
[00:49] <Matisse> melanie, dmesg | grep -C1 -E 'ALSA|HDA|HDMI|sound|hda.codec|hda.intel'   gives what?
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> ben_linus, You had a look at the uefi wiki?
[00:50] <melanie> Matisse: that returned nothing
[00:50] <ben_linus> my daughter told me abt it wilee_nilee, becuz i was trying to dual boot her comp
[00:50] <themanwithnoface> how/where do you guys check for if the latest version of the kernel or grub is out?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> themanwithnoface, any not in the repos is not supported here, just a heads up is all.
[00:51] <downbeam> ANYONE KNOW OF A GOOD ISO TO USB PROGRAM FOR  UBUNTU 13.04????????????
[00:52] <Matisse> downbeam, unetbootin  worked great for me!
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | ben_linus
[00:52] <themanwithnoface> wilee-nilee: ohhh....  so whatever came default with raring ... wait what? what dyou mean?
[00:52] <Nikon> hi there
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> ben_linus, more info, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[00:53] <Matisse> downbeam, but your usb and the computer need to be able to boot from usb
[00:53] <Nikon> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but my laptop overheats before i can install
[00:53] <Matisse> downbeam, dont know if a special partitioning is needed for the stick to be bootable
[00:53] <Ari-Yang> Nikon, hardware problem?
[00:53] <Nikon> I'm in windows at the moment and i dont have a issue
[00:54] <Ari-Yang> Nikon, what kind of graphics does your laptop have?
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> themanwithnoface, the kernels and grub are updated through the ubuntu repos in any release, however they may not ne the latest released to the public, but the ones the developers have setup to run in ubuntu
[00:54] <Nikon> Ati
[00:54] <Ari-Yang> Nikon, what card?
[00:54] <ben_linus> thanks
[00:54] <Nikon> one sec ill check
[00:54] <Ari-Yang> can you be more specific?
[00:54] <Nikon> Radeon 7660G
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> hmm
[00:55] <Matisse> melanie, try    dmesg | grep -C3 irq    .... but if that gives you 1000 lines... it wont be helpful :)
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> Nikon, the only thing that comes to my mind of ATI/AMD laptops overheating with ubuntu is the open source radeon driver...which is known for making laptop's hot
[00:55] <themanwithnoface> wilee-nilee: ahhh i see i see, so like defaults , right?  ok, .. poop. i just upgraded to 3.9 .. lol ah well. how do i find out what the newest stable version of grub is? im on the homepage..
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> themanwithnoface, why are you worried about grub?
[00:55] <Nikon> Ari-Yang: i was concered about the kernal, 3.0 if i remember correctly has problems with over heating
[00:56] <downbeam> Matisse, i dont need the disk to boot i just need it to run an iso image
[00:56] <Nikon> i was going to try and install 11.04
[00:56] <Matisse> wilee-nilee, which ubuntu version do you have with libreoff 4.0 ?
[00:56] <melanie> Matisse: it gave no lines
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Nikon, 11.04 is eol and not supported
[00:56] <Ari-Yang> Nikon, yeah, that's why I upgraded to kernel 3.10...
[00:56] <Ari-Yang> Nikon, though when I installed ubuntu on this laptop, I could install it, it didn't overheat :/
[00:56] <Matisse> melanie, then just paste  dmesg
[00:57] <Nikon> wilee-nilee: i was going to install 11.04 to install then update to the lts
[00:57] <Ari-Yang> Nikon, I dunno, maybe install an older version of ubuntu then install 12.04...
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[00:57] <Kawata_> ilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis
[00:57] <FloodBot1> Kawata_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:57] <Kawata_> #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis #gorilapenis
[00:57] <Ari-Yang> *shrugs*
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> Nikon, Bad idea
[00:57] <Nikon> my idea was if i used a older distro without unity it would be less stress on the system
[00:57] <Nikon> less heat
[00:57]  * Matisse .oO ( ... dont click...)
[00:58] <subcool> can someone help me with a package? Java is having an issue. and im not going to pretend to know whatim doing
[00:58] <themanwithnoface> wilee-nilee:  well, long story , was trying to downgrade from 13.04 to 12.04.03 b/c i thought it'd be more stable, but it turned out to be more difficult than prev. thought. anyway 13.04 has just been a little buggy...  thought 12.04.03 may be better...
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> subcool, need more details, too vauge...
[00:58] <jrib> subcool: give details when you ask your question (use a pastebin for errors, logs, commands, etc.)
[00:58] <subcool> -f install causes the system to try to install the package
[00:58] <Matisse> downbeam, ok, then i cant help you. the others might need more information about what your trying too
[00:58] <{{> let's see how long it takes until netsplit
[00:58] <Matisse> wilee-nilee, which ubuntu version do you have with libreoff 4.0 ?
[00:58] <themanwithnoface> wilee-nilee:  so now i'm sticking with 13.04 until the next LTS.. and trying to update everything, i have GRUB 2.00-13ubuntu3
[00:59] <subcool> java-jre is not updating... it erros
[00:59] <jrib> subcool: 1) -f install is not a command 2) give full input and output in a pastebin
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> themanwithnoface, the grub in the ubuntu repos is considered stable I have never had a problem with it. I am sensing a b it of a flailing about here am I correct. ;)
[01:00] <Ari-Yang> Matisse, you may know that libreoffice 4.0 may not be in ubuntu's official repos (which tend to have stable things). Though you can get a 4.0 repo with a stable version
[01:00] <themanwithnoface> wilee-nilee:  hmm?  lol  what do you mean?  i am a hypochondriac with computers that's for sure... :(
[01:00] <Ari-Yang> Matisse, can't remember which is more stable between 4.0 and 4.1
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> themanwithnoface, Ah, you have to be careful with an OS your given enough power to brick easily is all.
[01:01] <Matisse> Ari-Yang, i just want to know if 4.0 is stable with 12.04  ... and i think that wilee-nilee   uses something newer
[01:01] <subcool> Ok- here is something. And its not something ive seen before http://paste.ubuntu.com/6038602
[01:01] <melanie> Matisse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6038603/
[01:01] <Ari-Yang> Matisse, whatever is marked as stable, is most likely stable for all ubuntu versions...
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> is pretty tough but you have to use informed information and correct techniques
[01:01] <Matisse> melanie, still trying? let me help
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> it's*
[01:02] <Matisse> melanie, dmesg > log-dmesg.txt
[01:02] <Ari-Yang> Matisse, latest stable is 4.1.0, which should be stable on all ubuntu versions
[01:02] <Ari-Yang> just try it
[01:02] <Ari-Yang> and if things go wrong, you can always uninstall it, Matisse.
[01:02] <Matisse> ok, thx
[01:03] <Ari-Yang> yw
[01:03] <melanie> Matisse: the pastebin link i posted should work... but the output of dmesg isn't looking too helpful
[01:03] <Matisse> melanie, nothing useful in there :)  are other things working?
[01:04] <themanwithnoface> wilee-nilee:  i see...  noted and thanks friend :)  i'm really just procrastinating on my C work...
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> themanwithnoface, I would not update it out of what the distro provides in general unless there is an obvious fail.
[01:04] <melanie> Matisse: everything is working, except audio and wifi.... i have not messed with the wifi yet
[01:04] <themanwithnoface> anyone know how to remove Steam 100% from ubuntu it is bothering me
[01:04] <melanie> i just took a radical step, and removed pulseaudio
[01:04] <melanie> brb
[01:05] <Matisse> melanie, did the same. worked for me
[01:05] <themanwithnoface> wilee-nilee:  hmm yeah some issues arose earlier with some program... can't remember... might have been the vim upgrade or something
[01:06] <Matisse> melanie, maybe you only got the end of dmesg
[01:06] <Matisse> try to output into a file and look if theres more
[01:10] <Ari-Yang> [21:06:22] <Matisse> melanie, maybe you only got the end of dmesg ---> she is not here.. she quit saying 'brb'
[01:10] <Matisse> thx. did see a bit late :)
[01:10] <themanwithnoface> wilee-nilee: what verison of ubuntu do you use?   LTS to LTS?
[01:13] <Matisse> themanwithnoface, he wont tell anybody... :)
[01:13] <themanwithnoface> Matisse: :O impossibru
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> LOL
[01:19] <kairos> Ubuntu keeps going into low-graphics mode whenever I boot. How can I determine why?
[01:20] <feeshon> I ham having an issue with Synology NAS where the files names went all into hex
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> kairos, Do you have proprietary graphic drivers installed not in the repos?
[01:20] <feeshon> Would there be someone to possibly assist?
[01:20] <feeshon> I know it's outside the scope of this room
[01:20] <kimphill> kairos, take a look at the relevant Xorg log in /var/log
[01:21] <Ben64> feeshon: you may want to contact their support then
[01:21] <kairos> wilee-nilee: No, not that I'm aware of.
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> kairos, Yo.u would of had to install them
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> you would know then
[01:21] <lacy20> machine
[01:23] <kairos> There doesn't appear to be any errors in the log file
[01:26] <kairos> Is there a skeleton conf file for X anywhere? I appear to have misplaced mine
[01:26] <Ben64> you shouldn't need an xorg.conf
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> kairos, You should post the graphic hardware details.
[01:27] <kairos> wilee-nilee: I'm using integrated graphics
[01:27] <kairos> Would lshw work?
[01:28] <Ben64> lshw -C VIDEO
[01:28] <Ben64> and also do ... lspci | grep -i vga
[01:29] <kairos> sprunge.us/CHTb
[01:30] <kairos> sprunge.us/CUcE
[01:30] <kairos> Forigve me if those links are wrong
[01:30] <kairos> Can't copy nor paste
[01:30] <themanwithnoface> anyone else experience the bug in 13.04 where randomly adjusting brightness with the buttons or settings causes ubuntu to fatally freeze?
[01:30] <themanwithnoface> also what do you do in a fata freeze situation.. i heard
[01:31] <themanwithnoface> alt + F1 or something but it didnt work
[01:31] <themanwithnoface> *fatal
[01:31] <kairos> themanwithnoface: CTRL+ALT+F<1-8> opens up terminals
[01:31] <holstein> themanwithnoface: fatal, like, you cant do anything? you wont be able to do anything
[01:32] <themanwithnoface> holstein:  kairos  ahhh crap, so i can only hard reboot?  isnt that really bad?
[01:32] <DouglasK> question, how does one detach all byobu sessions?
[01:32] <Ben64> themanwithnoface: you could try to ssh in
[01:32] <holstein> themanwithnoface: you can try tty.. as suggested
[01:32] <holstein> !tty | themanwithnoface
[01:32] <kairos> themanwithnoface: Press CTRL+ALT+F1
[01:32] <kairos> Hey there ya go
[01:33] <themanwithnoface> thanks, thank you
[01:33] <subcool> Ok- here is something. And its not something ive seen before http://paste.ubuntu.com/6038602
[01:34] <holstein> subcool: you'll just need to clean those up.. i usually just remove what is offending.. purge PPA's if there are any.. etc
[01:35] <holstein> subcool: im also assuming you ran sudo apt-get update at some point
[01:35] <subcool> holstein, yeah, but- the javaapp is just really mad
[01:36] <holstein> subcool: not following..
[01:37] <subcool> holstein, java--- The openjdk-java is having severe issues
[01:38] <subcool> holstein, i cant remove it, i cant force it.. and now its serisoul affect me..
[01:38] <holstein> subcool: did you add a PPA?
[01:39] <subcool> that- i doont know about
[01:40] <holstein> subcool: this is what i would run.. sudo apt-get autoremove icedtea-6-jre-jamvm openjdk-6-jre icedtea-6-jre-cacao openjdk-6-jdk
[01:41] <holstein> then, i would look at my sources.. see that i have no PPA's added that are "broken"... then, i would run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and see that that completes with no errors
[01:41] <holstein> *then* i would refer to the java wiki..
[01:41] <holstein> !java
[01:43] <subcool> holstein, i cant hlep but feel like an idiot.. that worked.
[01:43] <subcool> thanks
[01:44] <holstein> subcool: it happens.. no worries :)
[01:46] <webereinc> when I enter a command 'sudo service cups start' I get an error 'start: Unknown job: cups' error.  Also, there is no file in the var/log/cups area?  Can anyone help troubleshoot why I can't get cups to start so I can add a printer to my new install of Lubuntu?
[01:47] <DouglasK> Is it possible to cause byobu to detach all connected sessions?
[01:49] <SonikkuAmerica> webereinc: cups is installed, I presume?
[01:50] <webereinc> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, cups is installed (and re-installed) but it won't start and it's not logging...
[01:50] <SonikkuAmerica> webereinc: Weird.
[01:51] <SonikkuAmerica> webereinc: You configured a printer?
[01:52] <webereinc> SonikkuAmerica: This is a new Lubuntu install... I wanted to try to add / configure my wireless printer, but it wouldn't let me because CUPS isn't running.
[01:54] <kabamaro> bash: /bin/mkdir: cannot execute binary file
[01:54] <kabamaro> any command i type
[01:54] <kabamaro> is like this
[01:54] <kabamaro> bash: /bin/cat: cannot execute binary file
[01:54] <kabamaro> what to do
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> kabamaro: ...Did you mess with MIME types or extensions?
[01:54] <kabamaro> maybe someone did
[01:54] <jrib> kabamaro: what was the last thing you did before this started happening...?
[01:54] <kabamaro> how can i fix it?
[01:54] <kabamaro> it was working fine yesterday
[01:54] <kabamaro> but someone else logged in today and this happened
[01:55] <jrib> kabamaro: ask that person what he or she did
[01:55] <kabamaro> it was hacked
[01:55] <kabamaro> brute forced
[01:56] <kabamaro> how can i ask them
[01:56] <kabamaro> lol
[01:56] <jrib> kabamaro: so you should be wiping and reinstalling
[01:56] <kabamaro> no other way?
[01:56] <jrib> kabamaro: if your system was compromised, you can't trust anything on it.
[01:57] <kabamaro> so theres no way to fix it ? :(
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> kabamaro: Hate to say it, but jrib is right - an OS is only as good as it weakest system file.
[01:58] <jrib> kabamaro: your issue isn't relevant.  The fact that your system was compromised means you should be wiping, reinstalling, and restoring data from known safe back-ups
[01:58] <kabamaro> ty
[01:58] <jrib> kabamaro: preferably, after you ensure you won't be compromised again in the same manner
[02:01] <kabamaro> microsoft is hosting virtual machines now?
[02:01] <kabamaro> ubuntu and windows
[02:01] <holstein> kabamaro: try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[02:02] <geektech> ya on Azure
[02:02] <geektech> VMware Vcloud too
[02:07] <kabamaro> whats vmware vcloud
[02:08] <holstein> kabamaro: its not on topic here to discuss http://www.vmware.com/products/vcloud-suite
[02:08] <kabamaro> ok  uddy
[02:08] <kabamaro> buddy
[02:11] <kairos> So my system keeps going into low graphics mode on boot
[02:12] <BenyaminL> halo
[02:13] <histo> kairos: what kind of graphics card?
[02:13] <kairos> histo: None
[02:13] <BenyaminL> Hmmm, anyone know is the LTS 14.04 will be the stable one with XMIR?
[02:15] <histo> kairos: That's interesting then how do you have video output?
[02:15] <holstein> kairos: you have some graphics card.. what is the brand?
[02:15] <histo> BenyaminL: yes 14.04 will be the next LTS
[02:15] <holstein> kairos: have you set a custom xorg.conf?
[02:16] <histo> !releases | BenyaminL
[02:16] <kairos> histo: Heh. Sorry. I meant integrated
[02:16] <kairos> holstein: No.
[02:16] <histo> kairos: okay, well it still has a chipset so lspci | grep VGA    will shed some light on the matter
[02:16] <SonikkuAmerica> BenyaminL: Also, 14.04 will be Lubuntu's first LTS.
[02:16] <dr_willis> mir still needs a lot of work from what im reading.
[02:17] <BenyaminL> @Histo :no, i mean will it stable with XMIR?
[02:17] <holstein> mir or no, 14.04 should be LTS
[02:17] <histo> BenyaminL: Don't know you'd have to ask the dev team. I think as we approach 13.10 we will get a better idea.
[02:17] <SonikkuAmerica> BenyaminL: Xubuntu is the only *buntu that will have XMir
[02:17] <kairos> histo: sprunge.us/FQRS
[02:17] <kairos> Sorry if that's wrong. Can't copy or paste
[02:17] <dr_willis> mir and stable.   :-(  who can tell at this point
[02:17] <SonikkuAmerica> BenyaminL: (if they decide to put it in)
[02:17] <kabamaro> how do i unrar .rar files?
[02:17] <kabamaro> when i apt-get install unrar
[02:17] <kabamaro> no packages found
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> kabamaro: Get p7zip-full
[02:18] <jrib> !info unrar | kabamaro
[02:18] <jrib> kabamaro: make sure you have multiverse enabled
[02:18] <histo> kairos: What do you mean by low graphics mode?
[02:18] <BenyaminL> @SonnikkuAmerica : really good :) but i face many problem on 13.04 lubuntu, is it safety upgrade to 13.10 and to 14.04?
[02:18] <histo> kabamaro: unrar-nonfree I believe it's called
[02:18] <dr_willis> unrar --help     for the syntax
[02:18] <kairos> histo: I get a popup that says something along the lines of switching to low graphics mode
[02:19] <xmetal> i need to readup more on LTS's
[02:19] <histo> Kabaka: unrar-free
[02:19] <kairos> It has several options. Troubleshoot, start in low-graphics mode, reoncifugre, etc
[02:19] <kairos> reconfigure*
[02:19] <BenyaminL> @SonikkuAmerica : i heard xubuntu using x11?
[02:19] <histo> kairos: What version of ubuntu are you booting and how?
[02:20] <kairos> histo: 12.10 via TTY
[02:20] <SonikkuAmerica> BenyaminL: Let me check with the Xubuntu party. There might be too much helium in their balloons.
[02:20] <aMoniker> How can I tell which version do-release-upgrade will upgrade to?
[02:20] <aMoniker> I want to move from 11.10 to 12.04... I don't want 13.04 by mistake
[02:21] <histo> kairos: I have no idea what menu you are speaking of perhaps you can take a picture of it and post to imgbin or somewhere
[02:21] <histo> !paste | kairos
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> aMoniker: You can only upgrade to the next version by that method.
[02:21] <BenyaminL> SonikkuAmerica : Ok Bro, i'll back for the other news :) i wana take breakfast *watching the conjuring :)
[02:21] <dr_willis> aMoniker:  it should  go  lts to lts..  or nonlts to next release
[02:21] <xmetal> hmm LTS's allow you to update to the lastest software packages without having to upgrade the entire OS?
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> BenyaminL: ... Breakfast? Eastern Hemisphere?
[02:21] <aMoniker> SonikkuAmerica: What's the next step from 11.10?
[02:21] <histo> aMoniker: it will only upgrade to the next release. If youa re running LTS you can go LTS > LTS
[02:21] <histo> aMoniker: 12.04
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> aMoniker: Read what histo said.
[02:21] <aMoniker> histo: ok good, thanks
[02:23] <histo> xmetal: No not the latest.
[02:24] <kairos> histo: No, I can't. I can't run programs while that menu is open
[02:25] <histo> kairos: with your cell phone or digital camera
[02:26] <histo> kairos: is this the installation cd or an installed system that you are booting?
[02:27] <kairos> histo: Installed
[02:28] <kairos> Just started happening after a reboot a while ago
[02:29] <histo> kairos: what happens after you make a selection?
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-cnaJoGCw
[02:32] <somsip> !fud | AcidRain2012
[02:32] <kairos> histo: When I select 'Enter low-graphics mode for one session', it says the display is going to restart. It just hangs, though. When I select 'reoncigure configuration', I get two options: Use default config, or use my backed-up config. Nothing happens when I select either of those. Troubleshoot the error gives me xserver log file, with no way to paste it. However, I don't see any errors or anything that would cause this
[02:33] <AcidRain2012> somsip, im watching the video now. its just bashing unity
[02:33] <somsip> AcidRain2012: it's not a support issue, so it's OT at best
[02:34] <AcidRain2012> ot?
[02:34] <AcidRain2012> off topic
[02:34] <AcidRain2012> got ya
[02:34] <histo> kairos: Is this a unity message like GUI based or grub based message text based?
[02:34] <somsip> AcidRain2012: yes. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chats
[02:34] <somsip> AcidRain2012: thanks
[02:34] <histo> kairos: before or after you login?
[02:34] <kairos> histo: GUI. And before.
[02:36] <histo> kairos: What were you doing just prior to this starting?
[02:37] <kairos> histo: I had exited i3 to try a new WM, and my system hung. I reboot, and this happened.
[02:37] <histo> kairos: is your hard drive full?
[02:37] <kairos> Nope
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> beefy miracle lulz
[02:38] <histo> kairos: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[02:38] <kairos> I can't open a URL
[02:41] <histo> kairos: Do you not have another machine to check the solutions at that URL?
[02:43] <majornick> hey yall. Ubuntu 13.04 here. wondereing if anyone knows of a app for recording my voice in a tweaked way. i want to do a podacast anonymously. i have several mics. i just need an app that can record my voice in an alternate persona. anyyone know of an app that can do this?
[02:44] <nerdtron> record as normal voice and then pass a filter in audacity to alter your voice
[02:44] <majornick> ok so record normal and then "audacity" is the app i use to filter the audio?
[02:45] <Gnarly> yes, that can adjust the timbre and the like in the same program
[02:45] <nerdtron> majornick yes, you can install it from the software center
[02:45] <majornick> great!
[02:45] <histo> majornick: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=899218
[02:46] <nerdtron> BTW, majornick audacity can't save MP3 by default... I think it needs a LAME.dll ( at least in windows) to be able to export MP3. other formats are good to go
[02:46] <histo> majornick: http://lobstertech.com/voice_changer.html
[02:48] <majornick> i am on Ubuntu 13.04 so i hope audacity works for me as i dont need real time changing. thanks. i got confused when i looked before because everyone wants real time changing for skype or whatever. looks like audacity will work for what i need. thanks again
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> Has not the LTS Enablement Stack for 12.04 been set up for 64 bit?
[02:51] <kairos> Great. Timed out.
[02:54] <kairos> histo: Ugh. This is weird. lightdm nor slim worked, but kdm is
[02:54] <kairos> Also I don't have mouse support. Nice.
[02:54] <histo> kairos: were you perhaps messing with file permissions also?
[02:54] <kairos> No
[02:55] <histo> kairos: weird. Something has gone wrong with your config files most likely.
[02:55] <kairos> Which ones should I take a look at, do you think?
[02:55] <histo> wilee-nilee: what enablement stack?
[02:56] <POo> lol
[02:56] <histo> williangliao: they are only intended for x86 hardware at this time according to the wiki
[03:03] <kabamaro> how do i start apache2 with a certain server name?
[03:03] <NeverHere> kabamaro, what do you mean certian server name? like a domain name?
[03:04] <kabamaro> its running on a wrong ip address
[03:04] <kabamaro>  * Starting web server apache2                                                  apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 100.70.226.126 for ServerName
[03:04] <kabamaro> 100.70.226.126
[03:04] <kabamaro> thats local
[03:04] <kabamaro> so its not working when i use it
[03:05] <NeverHere> not sure, never heard of apache doing that before
[03:05] <nerdtron> kabamaro what is your /etc/hosts contain?
[03:05] <NeverHere> usually localhost is 127.0.0.1
[03:05] <NeverHere> you can find out with hostname command
[03:06] <somsip> kabamaro: This should help: http://is.gd/PeLczK
[03:06] <histo> kabamaro: What do you have apache listening on?
[03:07] <kabamaro> 138.91.175.163
[03:07] <kabamaro> thats my server ip
[03:07] <kabamaro> try http:// my ip
[03:07] <kabamaro> its timed out
[03:09] <histo> kabamaro: Is your server behind a router or firewalled?
[03:10] <histo> kabamaro: I can't even get a ping response from that ip btw
[03:10] <histo> kabamaro: also you IP is owned by microsoft so that's rather odd
[03:11] <kabamaro> yeah its firewalled
[03:11] <kabamaro> yes man, microsoft is hosting it
[03:11] <kabamaro> nvm i fixed it
[03:11] <kabamaro> it was a firewall problem
[03:13] <kabamaro> can you help me with 1 more thing?
[03:13] <kabamaro> i have postfix installed but its not sending emails
[03:15] <kabamaro> should i have port 25 UDP/TCP or only TCP?
[03:16] <kabamaro> nvm i fixed it
[03:16] <histo> kabamaro: Why are you attempting to run your own mail server?
[03:16] <NeverHere> kabamo is you get postfix working you must teach me how lol, i can't get mine to recieve emails to save my life
[03:16] <histo> NeverHere: postfix doesn't receive mail
[03:17] <mhr> hi, I have this problem (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1173759/comments/14), mediatek.com is gone, so does anyone have another copy of that file, or is there a mirror somewhere...?
[03:17] <kabamaro> histo sending newsletters
[03:17] <kabamaro> to customers
[03:18] <mhr> and maybe that's not even the solution. My problem is that I can detect wifi, but cannot connect.
[03:18] <NeverHere> histo, eh whut lol doesn't postfix recieve the email on the server and forward to the correct inbox of the user?
[03:18] <nerdtron> kabamaro sending newsletters if you don't own a mail domain is considered spam
[03:18] <NeverHere> like sendmail
[03:18] <majornick> update. 13.04 here. installed "audacity" from ubuntu software center. recorded audio. edited effect and pitch. exported to mp3. everything was fine until i went to play the saved file. then i was asked to install 3 gstreamer libs. i did and it is all fine now. i am using this software for research purposes/and or is legal in my curent country.  i promise and thank you.
[03:19] <nerdtron> majornick glad to here you sorted it out.. and always use the software with responsibility goodluck :)
[03:19] <majornick> nerdtron: :)
[03:21] <wizard_> evening, everyone. I made a stupid mistake. I was updating drivers on one of my boxes and accidentally installed nvidia drivers on a box with Intel 4600. now I get a black screen when I log in using Unity. I'm on the fallback gui at the moment
[03:23] <usr13> wizard_: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:23] <majornick> wizard_: oh your fine. these guys will have you sorted out in no time
[03:24] <wizard_> "no such file or directory" when I tried that
[03:24] <usr13> wizard_: Uninstall the Nvidia driver.
[03:24] <majornick> usr13: thats what i was thinking lol
[03:24] <usr13> wizard_: How did you install it?
[03:25] <usr13> wizard_: did you use the package manager?
[03:25] <wizard_> I actually did. before I did, I was getting a blank screen. I could see my desktop background but nothing else. after uninstalling it I have a black screen lol
[03:25] <wizard_> I used the terminal. give me a sec and I'll pull up what I did
[03:25] <majornick> wizard_: so now install the correct driver?
[03:26] <wizard_> sudo apt-get update
[03:26] <wizard_> sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:26] <usr13> wizard_: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/   #Will show you the latest packages last.
[03:26] <wizard_> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:26] <wizard_> ok let me give that a try. thanks so far by the way, everyone
[03:26] <usr13> wizard_: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current
[03:26] <majornick> && sudo apt-get install intel-current?
[03:27] <wizard_> intet-current doesn't seem to be a thing. let me see if it's named something else
[03:28] <majornick> wizard_: no
[03:28] <majornick> dont listen to me
[03:28] <majornick> wizard_: i am a noob thts why i put the question mark after that
[03:28] <usr13> majornick: no
[03:28] <wizard_> oh lol
[03:28] <wizard_> I already removed nvidia-current
[03:28] <wizard_> sudo apt-get remove nvidia
[03:29] <wizard_> either way
[03:29] <usr13> wizard_: lspci   #Tell us the line that describes your video card.
[03:29] <mhr> ah, the guy corrects the broken link later down the page, whoops
[03:29] <majornick> wizard_: my solution=reinstall clean from hash sum checked iso using unetbootin.. fixes everything everytime
[03:30] <NickRice> codeblocks hasnt been able to install in ubuntu succesfully since switching from a partition to a virtual machine, is this a common issue?
[03:31] <wizard_> what exactly am I looking for once I enter lspci?
[03:32] <usr13> wizard_: lspck |grep Intel
[03:32] <b_> lspci lists your current drivers correct?
[03:32] <majornick> wizard_: copy and paste output to imagebin.com
[03:32] <usr13> b_: No
[03:32] <majornick> wizard_: then post the link here
[03:33] <usr13> wizard_: lspci |grep Intel  *Typo
[03:33] <usr13> corrected  ^^^^^^
[03:33] <usr13> wizard_: lspci |grep VGA
[03:33] <majornick> usr13: he caught the typo
[03:34] <usr13> majornick: Why would he use imagebin?
[03:34] <mhr> okay, so this is it http://www.mediatek.com/_en/07_downloads/01_windows.php?sn=501, but I can't figure out how to download the file! (which is called RT539x PCIe)
[03:34] <usr13> majornick: Rather than pastebin ?
[03:34] <majornick> usr13: i dont know i am just attempting to be helpful and am obviously getting in the way so i will go now. thanks and bbl UBUNTU!!
[03:35] <wizard_> ok, everything is copied. want me to paste it here or would that be too much spam?
[03:35] <usr13> wizard_: Do, use paste.ubuntu.com
[03:35] <mhr> is that what goes to the email? or was that just to get my information...? now I feel stupid
[03:36] <usr13> wizard_: lspci |pastebinit
[03:37] <usr13> wizard_: Show us the resulting URL
[03:38] <auntiepattykho> Hi Everyone, could you help me out with this error below?
[03:38] <auntiepattykho> I am trying to run a VM inside a VM but got this error when running it..
[03:38] <auntiepattykho> Starting install....
[03:38] <auntiepattykho> ERROR internal error Process exited while reading console log output: char device redirected to /dev/pts/0
[03:38] <auntiepattykho> Could not access KVM kernel module: Permission denied
[03:38] <FloodBot1> auntiepattykho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:38] <auntiepattykho> No accelerator found!
[03:38] <usr13> !paste | auntiepattykho
[03:39] <usr13> wizard_: lspci |pastebinit  #Send resulting URL
[03:39] <wizard_> sure thing, one moment
[03:39] <awc737> I repeatedly have to /bin/bash --login to use certain commands
[03:39] <awc737> even though i've run chsh, and checked /etc/passwd that /bin/bash is my shell
[03:40] <wizard_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6038949/
[03:41] <awc737> what does "Run command as Login Shell" do?
[03:41] <usr13> wizard_: cat /etc/issue  #Paste output here.
[03:42] <guest___> I want to install KDE in my Ubuntu 12.04.2 install.  Will KDE overwrite the default DE?
[03:42] <usr13> guest___: Yes.  Just do:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:43] <xmetal> no, it will be added as an extra option
[03:43] <wizard_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6038961/
[03:43] <usr13> guest___: xmetal is correct, (I was wrong).
 and <xmetal> thanks.
[03:44] <devslash> is there a way to auto hide the taskbar at the top of my desktop in ubuntu 13?
[03:45] <xmetal> hold on .. i think the question was will it "remove" the default dE ... kde may set itself as the default de, when you install it (i forgot) though you could change it back if you wanted
[03:45] <xmetal> i am a Mint users with a number of DE's installed
[03:45] <BoTB22323> Intresting...
[03:45] <BoTB22323> Python Works Well With DreamWeaver
[03:45] <BoTB22323> Would have never guessed it.
[03:46] <usr13> wizard_: is this a laptop or desktop?  (Tell us make and model.)
[03:47] <uw> to install the package it's just "apt-get install experimental PACKAGENAME".     however to build-dep of that experimental package, how do i specify it?
[03:47] <guest___> How could I keep my default DE while having KDE as a secondary DE?  Is there a command in the terminal I will need to execute?
[03:48] <wizard_> laptop. System76 Gazelle Professional
[03:48] <usr13> wizard_: uname -a   #Just paste the results here.
[03:48] <auntiepattykho> Hi..Im having issues installing a vm from a vm..ran the command
[03:48] <auntiepattykho> sudo virt-install -n devstack-1 -r 256 \--disk path=/var/lib/libvirt/images/devstack-1.img,bus=virtio,size=4 -c \mini.iso --accelerate --network network=default,model=virtio \--connect=qemu:///system --vnc --noautoconsole -v
[03:48] <auntiepattykho> and got the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6038966/
[03:48] <wizard_> Linux Hokus 3.8.0-29-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 19:40:39 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:48] <usr13> wizard_: So this system already had Ubuntu installed when you got it.  Right?
[03:48] <wizard_> yep
[03:49] <auntiepattykho> can anybody help me with this ?
[03:49] <usr13> wizard_: So you just did a distribution upgrade?  Maybe from 12.04 to 13.04?
[03:49] <wizard_> it came installed with 13.04. I never had to do an upgrade
[03:49] <TheRC51> Whenever someone has time I have an issue I need help with.
[03:50] <usr13> wizard_:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:50] <Ben64> auntiepattykho: it really doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue
[03:50] <devslash> is there a way to autohide the top panel in ubuntu ?
[03:51] <uw> devslash, which ubuntu version and desktop?
[03:51] <wizard_> all right then. everything is updated and upgraded
[03:51] <devslash> uw ubuntu 13 desktop
[03:51] <usr13> wizard_: See if it works ok now.  Reboot.
[03:51] <TheRC51> I'm having an issue installing Ubuntu on my new computer. I installed windows 8 on one SSD and I installed Ubuntu onto the other SSD using a flash drive install. But Grub won't come up and let me choose which operating system to choose. In the bios I changed it from the Windows UEFI to "other os". And fastboot is disabled in windows 8. Still every time it goes to Windows 8 when it boots up. Any ideas?
[03:51] <wizard_> sure thing. I'll let you know in a few minutes. thanks so far
[03:52] <Ben64> TheRC51: set the computer to boot from the 2nd drive
[03:52] <auntiepattykho> @Ben64: why? I'm using Ubuntu to create the VM and followed the guide found in this page https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/libvirt.html
[03:52] <auntiepattykho> but got the error
[03:52] <TheRC51> I've tried that but I'll try it again Ben64
[03:52] <themanwithnoface> anyone else experience the bug in 13.04 where randomly adjusting brightness with the buttons or settings causes ubuntu to fatally freeze? sorry asking again, maybe somebody has here, now has experience with this?
[03:53] <Ben64> auntiepattykho: yeah, but you're trying to do some VMception kind of thing
[03:53] <b_> lol@Ben64
[03:56] <tater> سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ
[03:56] <TheRC51> Ben64: Didn't work. Still went straight to Windows 8
[03:56] <StaticSilva> TheRC5, I had the same problem. Not really sure how I fixed it.
[03:56] <Ben64> TheRC51: then either you didn't set the correct drive to boot, or grub isn't installed, or maybe a secret third option
[03:57] <TheRC51> Correct drive was set. I know that for sure.
[03:57] <TheRC51> Grub should have installed with Ubuntu. No errors came up.
[03:57] <Ben64> !boot-repair
[03:57] <Ben64> hmm...
[03:57] <wizard_> hey, I'm back. looks like I'm back to a blank desktop with only my background visible when I choose unity as my DE
[03:57] <Ben64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:58] <Ben64> you could try that from a livecd/usb and see what it says
[03:58] <wizard_> if worse comes to worse I'll back my files up on an external drive and reinstall. not the end of the world
[03:58] <TheRC51> Boot from live usb?
[03:58] <TheRC51> boot repair*
[03:58] <Ben64> yeah
[03:58] <TheRC51> Ok I will try that.
[04:00] <wizard_> @usr13 I'm back to using the GNOME Fallback for the time being
[04:01] <StaticSilva> Anyone know how to make the default font in Ubuntu look for like Windows?
[04:01] <StaticSilva> more like*
[04:02] <usr13> wizard_: I think you just need to reset unity.
[04:02] <usr13> wizard_: unity --restart
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: !recovery maybe?
[04:03] <wizard_> will that work from the DE I'm currently in?
[04:03] <usr13> wizard_: Ctrl-ALt-t  #Should give you a terminal.
[04:03] <wizard_> all right, I'll give it a shot
[04:04] <StaticSilva> How many of you here use nothing but Linux as your OS? And how would I go about doing it if I play games?
[04:05] <b_> staticsilva steam
[04:05] <TheRC51> Ben64: I am running Boot Repair and this error came up
[04:05] <StaticSilva> Not every game is on Steam though
[04:05] <TheRC51> GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again.
[04:05] <b_> therc51 you have a new machine with win8 secure boot enabled?
[04:06] <TheRC51> I turned off secure boot in my Bios
[04:06] <b_> ok
[04:07] <b_> staticsilva use a vm of windows
[04:07] <b_> main os = ubun
[04:07] <b_> =]
[04:07] <dec0d3r> TheRC51, this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/83771/recovering-grub-after-installing-windows-7
[04:07] <StaticSilva> I would, but then my games would look terrible
[04:08] <b_> dec0d3r he is on win 8 though
[04:08] <b_> staticsilva have you tried it?
[04:09] <Ari-Yang> StaticSilva, then dual boot?
[04:09] <Ari-Yang> boot into windows when you want to game and boot into ubuntu for everything else?
[04:09] <dec0d3r> i'm noob on win 8, but wouldn't it be the same?
[04:09] <StaticSilva> When I tried dual booting I ended up mostly using Windows for everything and not using Ubuntu
[04:09] <Ari-Yang> StaticSilva, and using a virtual machine for gaming may not be so great.... unless you're on a high power machine I guess
[04:09] <Ari-Yang> StaticSilva, then just stick with Windows? *shrugs*
[04:10] <StaticSilva> Its mostly though because I'm used to it
[04:10] <StaticSilva> But I hate WIndows
[04:11] <TheRC51> dec0d3r this warning came up while i was working on what you sent me.
[04:11] <TheRC51> GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again.
[04:11] <TheRC51> Ops sorry wrong one. hold on
[04:11] <TheRC51> WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdb'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[04:11] <TheRC51> This one
[04:11] <StaticSilva> When I tried dual booting I had the same problems TheRC51 is having now
[04:12] <Ben64> TheRC51: use gparted then
[04:12] <StaticSilva> I had Windows on my sdd and ubuntu on my hard driv e and it wouldn't boot ubuntu
[04:14] <b_> staticsilva partition tables correct?
[04:14] <wizard_> @usr13 wizard@Hokus:~$ unity --restart
[04:14] <wizard_> Usage: unity [options]
[04:14] <wizard_> unity: error: no such option: --restart
[04:15] <Ari-Yang> StaticSilva, there are countless walkthroughs of dual-booting ubuntu with windows, here's one http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/tired-of-windows-8-how-to-dual-boot-windows-ubuntu/
[04:15] <Ari-Yang> ^ TheRC51
[04:15] <Ari-Yang> you might be interested? *shrugs*
[04:15] <TheRC51> Currently going through one. Thanks though Ari-Yang . I'll try yours if this current one doesn't work.
[04:16] <StaticSilva> Might have to try that tutorial gain
[04:16] <StaticSilva> again, all though it seems like something always goes wrong that isn't explained in it
[04:17] <wizard_> heh, I guess I'm just not having luck tonight
[04:18] <StaticSilva> The biggest problem I have though is figuring out how to disable Secure Boot in my Bios
[04:19] <StaticSilva> By the way is that tutorial about dual booting when each OS is on a different drive?
[04:19] <Silver_Arrow> I just installed qtsixa to try and use a PS3 Sixaxis controller for a game in wine. How can I tell if the problem is the system not recognizing the controller, or just the game?
[04:19] <b_> staticsilva read it and see man
[04:19] <b_> lol
[04:22] <TheRC51> Got onto step 4. These are the instructions
[04:22] <TheRC51> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install grub-pc sudo grub-setup /dev/sda     # NOTE THAT THERE IS NO DIGIT sudo umount /boot
[04:23] <TheRC51> But I ran into an issue running sudo grup-setup /dev/sda
[04:23] <TheRC51> The error said the command was not found
[04:23] <wizard_> no luck with "unity --restart". I may just start from scratch
[04:24] <TheRC51> any ideas Ben64
[04:24] <StaticSilva> So besides Ubuntu, what Distros do you guys use?
[04:25] <Ari-Yang> StaticSilva, there are dozens of Linux distros...
[04:25] <Johnny_Linux> NOT WINDOZE
[04:25] <Johnny_Linux> oops
[04:25] <Ari-Yang> remember StaticSilva this is a support channel for off topic stuff join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:26] <StaticSilva> oh ok. didn't know
[04:26] <TheRC51> Ari-Yang did you see the recent error that I mentioned?
[04:28] <Ari-Yang> TheRC51, nope, and not really an expert when it comes to this. Though if I were you, I'd google the error and find threads and topics about it to see if there are any answers that may help me.
[04:28] <TheRC51> Yeah, i'm currently doing that now. Thanks though.
[04:30] <DoYouKnow> are there any channels for Zorin, or places where I can ask questions on freenode?
[04:31] <DoYouKnow> it's an ubuntu derivate
[04:31] <Johnny_Linux>  /list
[04:31] <DoYouKnow> that will just flood my client
[04:32] <Ermes> ciao a tutti
[04:32] <Johnny_Linux> what client do you use
[04:32] <Ermes> italian is allowed?
[04:32] <DoYouKnow> Johnny_Linux: irssi
[04:32] <Johnny_Linux> ah ok
[04:32] <Ermes> nessuno parla italiano ?
[04:32] <Ermes> mmm
[04:32] <Johnny_Linux> dosnt zorin provide that info on their site ?
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> DoYouKnow, #ZorinOS
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> !it
[04:35] <AcidRain2012> how can i run a cron job as root?
[04:35] <Ben64> use root's crontab
[04:37] <AcidRain2012> lol
[04:37] <AcidRain2012> im using the 'scheduled tasks' gui
[04:38] <Ben64> AcidRain2012: what are you trying to run anyway
[04:38] <AcidRain2012> a cronjob that will keep stats on my ftp server. but the location that contains the files is owned by root.
[04:39] <Ben64> well yeah then, just edit root's crontab
[04:40] <AcidRain2012> where exactlly is roots cron tab?
[04:40] <Ben64> use the command "crontab"
[04:40] <AcidRain2012> well... is there a way to gain root in bash?
[04:50] <qin> AcidRain2012: sudo -i
[04:51] <qin> AcidRain2012: ftp and root sounds bad, much worst than ftp itself
[04:52] <AcidRain2012> its sftp using ssh keys as authentication ;)
[04:52] <AcidRain2012> im just used to saying ftp
[04:52] <qin> still bad ;)
[04:53] <AcidRain2012> ... epic perhaps is the term  your querying with the expectations of desired results? ;D
[04:55] <qin> AcidRain2012: i not really sure if running ftp as root is better than changing ownership of files to share. sudo crontab -e; and ftp config;
[04:59] <reveal> Hello all, I am in need of installing an EOL version of Ubuntu, Ubuntu 11.04 i386 desktop. My school teacher will only allow this version to be used with lab assignments. I tried to use wubi but it fails even if i modify the manifest to replace old-version. Is there a way to get natty with wubi
[05:01] <uw> good luck with that one
[05:02] <reveal> yeah ive read lots of posts no success
[05:02] <qin> reveal: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/ what prevents you from using live system?
[05:02] <toketokensen> anybody have any luck installing on an hp envy h9?  ubuntu installs just fine with or without uefi and secure boot enabled but boots to a black screen and can't install grub
[05:02] <toketokensen> any ideas?
[05:02] <AcidRain2012> no no qin. u jail the user into a directory. root has to have ownership of it. and permissions have to be set. that is pretty secure ftp :o
[05:02] <reveal> qin: id prefer the less headache route of install with a gui inside windows less afraid to jack stuff up
[05:03] <toketokensen> i don't want windows 8 ever
[05:03] <reveal> does anyone know wif there are any SUPER major revisions from 11.04 to current
[05:03] <toketokensen> lke even with a clean wipe/install it doesn't work
[05:03] <Ben64> reveal: 11.04 is no longer supported, you can do what you want, but you're on your own with it
[05:04] <reveal> Ben64: Yeah I saw that but with it being no longer supported can't use wubi
[05:04] <MH53_Intel> gui install from windows sounds like more of a headache to me fwiw ;)
[05:04] <Ben64> wubi is not a good solution anyway
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> toketokensen, This thread may help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[05:04] <Ben64> reveal: you should use 12.04 or 13.04, as they are still supported here
[05:04] <reveal> Yeah.
[05:04] <qin> reveal: get unertbootin, usb drive, install foolproof system; wonder if unetbootin will install line natty...
[05:05] <reveal> I tried the pen drive ubuntu method
[05:05] <reveal> slow as malasys
[05:05] <qin> reveal: hehe
[05:05] <reveal> Ben64: do you know if there are any realy changes between the 11.04 to 13.04
[05:05] <Ben64> tons of changes
[05:06] <reveal> i emailed my teacher tell him im not going to install an outdated distro on my computer and be vulnerable to people
[05:06] <Ben64> smart idea
[05:06] <reveal>  the i386 version of Ubuntu 11.04 are the only official distributions for this class. These are the only distributions that the labs have been tested against and verified to work with. These are also the only distributions for which students can expect any instructor support. Students attempting to use any other distributions or distribution versions may find that the labs do not work correctly for them. Such students, if they ask for help, will only be told 
[05:06] <kabamaro> how to clean mail queue?
[05:06] <reveal> thats what he said
[05:06] <kabamaro> delete mails in queue
[05:06] <reveal> this is for a linux+ class
[05:06] <Ben64> what kind of class tells you to use outdated software
[05:07] <reveal> haha
[05:07] <reveal> its either ubuntu or fedora *shudders*
[05:07] <Ben64> and why would a class use a non-LTS release
[05:07] <Ben64> 12.04 is supported until 2017
[05:07] <reveal> i dont know im going to ask him ad just use 12.04
[05:07] <reveal> all else ill livecd it hehehe
[05:07] <kabamaro> how to remove all mails in queue?
[05:08] <qin> reveal: vbox?
[05:08] <reveal> qin, i tried a vmware of it but gnome is painfully slow updating the applications
[05:08] <kabamaro> how to remove all mails in queue
[05:09] <Ben64> !patience | kabamaro, and more details couldn't hurt
[05:10] <kabamaro> sorry Ben64, i have sent over 9000 emails, i want to remove them from mail queue, i want to stop it.
[05:10] <qin> kabamaro: postfix nighmare? -f
[05:10] <reveal> Ben64: do you trust wubi for 12.04 or should i burn it to disk and
[05:10] <kabamaro> qin ?
[05:10] <Ben64> reveal: i'm really not a fan of wubi at all
[05:10] <qin> kabamaro: what mail are you using?
[05:11] <reveal> ahh
[05:11] <kabamaro> postfix
[05:11] <qin> kabamaro: postfix flush (or -f)
[05:12] <kabamaro> postfix: invalid option -- 'f'
[05:12] <kabamaro> i did postfix flush
[05:12] <kabamaro> but when i do mailq
[05:12] <kabamaro> they're still there
[05:13] <reveal> postsuper -d mailID
[05:14] <kabamaro> oh, there are many, reveal
[05:14] <reveal> mailID is the ID of the mail in the mail queue.
[05:14] <kabamaro> about 9000
[05:14] <reveal> postsuper -d ALL
[05:14] <reveal> will delete all queued mails from the mailq.
[05:14] <BoTB22323> What's the command to connect to here under terminal
[05:14] <BoTB22323> I forgot zzzzz.
[05:14] <kabamaro> thanks sir
[05:18] <kabamaro> you are da bomb
[05:18] <BoTB22323> Can i get some help here?
[05:19] <BoTB22323> I was just connected to this site, but i was under my terminal. I had the process to do so
[05:19] <BoTB22323> Copied down
[05:19] <BoTB22323> But i lost it
[05:19] <BoTB22323> Can i get the commands under ubuntu/wine using a terminal to do so?
[05:24] <james-ubc> so my bash prompt right now is (precise)james@localhost:~$ how would I get rid of the (precise) part?
[05:24] <james-ubc> happend on an update
[05:24] <gbushprogs> that's something I've never seen
[05:25] <james-ubc> meneither
[05:25] <Flre> Intresting.
[05:26] <gbushprogs> what does "echo $PS1" say
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> james-ubc, number of hits on the web this looks easiest. http://askubuntu.com/questions/145618/how-can-i-shorten-my-command-line-bash-prompt
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> this one two https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt
[05:28] <james-ubc> \[\e]0;(precise)\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$
[05:29] <james-ubc> I'm looking at my .bashrc
[05:29] <james-ubc> and there's no refrence to (precise)
[05:30] <james-ubc> very strange
[05:30] <gbushprogs> oh, it looks like an update just added (precise) into your prompt
[05:33] <gbushprogs> try executing: export PS1="\[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$"
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> \[\e]0;[05:35] <gbushprogs> the easy way to fix that permanently is to put the export command at the end of your .bashrc file. That's the dirty way to do it.
[05:37] <james-ubc> that doesn't appear to have done anything when executed
[05:37] <gbushprogs> hrm
[05:38] <james-ubc> strangest thing ever or what?
[05:39] <gbushprogs> It's just odd that Google has nothing, ROFL
[05:39] <james-ubc> IDK where else to look
[05:39] <james-ubc> for the refrence
[05:39] <james-ubc> like whats setting it
[05:40] <gbushprogs> If google doesn't have it, it must not be on the Internet -- lol, j/k
[05:40] <james-ubc> that's almost true
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> I posted two links
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> tons on  the web
[05:43] <gbushprogs> did you find your PS1="somethingsomething" line in your .bashrc?
[05:43] <james-ubc> yup
[05:43] <gbushprogs> does it have (precise) in the middle of it?
[05:43] <james-ubc> no "(precise)" or similar in the file
[05:43] <gbushprogs> darn
[05:44] <james-ubc> that's what's confusing me so much
[05:45] <gbushprogs> do you have a .bash_aliases file?
[05:45] <james-ubc> nope
[05:47] <lord_daemon> I think I'll sleep
[05:48] <james-ubc> what else can set $PS1?
[05:48] <magnetron> hi, how would i restrict which usb devices can be recognized on which ports? i want to put my computer at a physically secure location and extend the USB to a certain point, but i only want a specific device being able to connect to that USB port
[05:49] <jpds> magnetron: udev rules.
[05:49] <magnetron> jpds: good. would i have to edit all the udev rules for all supported devices, to be able to restrict them?
[05:49] <jpds> magnetron: Of course, someone could fake the USB ID of a device.
[05:50] <magnetron> jpds: yes, but as long as they don't fake another type of USB device, i don't care
[05:50] <jpds> magnetron: No, you create a file with some rules that say: "allow *this* device" and another telling it to ignore the rest.
[05:50] <reveal> Ben64: I installed ubuntu 12 not a big fan of the gui LOL
[05:50] <jpds> magnetron: I've done it before, but can't remmeber the syntax off the top of my head.
[05:51] <gbushprogs> james: I would think any process running with your credentials could edit your $PS1
[05:51] <jpds> magnetron: You'll want to put this in /etc/udev/rules.d .
[05:51] <reveal> gbushprogs: doesnt it have to have perm for /etc/profile
[05:51] <jpds> magnetron: And see: /lib/udev/rules.d and the README file there for inspiration.
[05:51] <jpds> go df
[05:52] <Silver_Arrow> I seem to have all the correct libraries installed, but ubuntu won't recognize the controller
[05:54] <magnetron> jpds: i'll look into it, thx
[05:54] <Ben64> reveal: you can use whichever gui you want
[05:55] <james-ubc> blah
[05:55] <james-ubc> i'll do this tmr
[05:55] <james-ubc> thanks
[05:55] <gbushprogs> reveal -- not if it's executing a change to the $PS1 variable after /etc/profile has already executed and .bashrc has already executed. Seems like something could be added to /etc/profile to execute another file and change $PS1
[05:56] <gbushprogs> In which case, in light of /etc/profile and .bashrc there's a few places to hide a "(precise)" in there somewhere.
[05:57] <gbushprogs> oh well, chances are he logs in tomorrow and it doesn't do it, ROFL, I love computers
[06:04] <republican_devil> how reliable is ubuntu software raid?
[06:04] <republican_devil> :)
[06:06] <TokeTokensen> so if i have an hp envy h9 and i replace the motherboard in it, anybody think that that would let me install ubuntu finally?
[06:07] <TokeTokensen> this pc is so much fucking headache
[06:07] <Ben64> watch the language, and explain what you're talking about
[06:07] <republican_devil> www.pricewatch.com
[06:07] <uncorr> hi, where can I find a help channel?
[06:07] <republican_devil> amd fx 8 way under 300
[06:07] <republican_devil> see desktop no os
[06:07] <republican_devil> :)
[06:07] <FloodBot1> republican_devil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <Ben64> republican_devil: thats nice, but offtopic
[06:08] <uncorr> I'm having trouble accessing the boot menu of my lenovo g500
[06:08] <Ben64> uncorr: maybe try ##hardware
[06:08] <uncorr> thanks, is that #ubuntu-hardware or just #hardware?
[06:09] <uncorr> is it a help channel?
[06:09] <Ben64> depends what you need help with, ##hardware is a channel for hardware help
[06:09] <uncorr> OK, thanks
[06:13] <jonascj> backports... "apt-get install package/release-backports", should release the the release you want to install it in or should it be the release you want the package from? E.g. I'm on precise (12.04) and want a package from Raring (13.04)?
[06:23] <MikeD412> I want to dual boot between win 8/ubuntu on my laptop, but I don't think its letting me.. I went into the windows disk editor, made like 30GB unallocated space and turned it into an ntfs volume, and then booted the ubuntu setup up... i chose something else...but i looked at it confused...and i don't want to mess it up
[06:26] <usr13> MikeD412: Delete the new NTFS partition and use the free space.  (Ubuntu doesn't use NTFS.)
[06:27] <MikeD412> so...de-shrink it?
[06:27] <usr13> MikeD412: No
[06:27] <usr13> MikeD412: Delete the new NTFS partition and use the free space.  (Ubuntu doesn't use NTFS.)
[06:28] <MikeD412> ok
[06:28] <MikeD412> did that
[06:28] <usr13> MikeD412: Now you can create partitions that Ubuntu will use.
[06:28] <usr13> MikeD412: How much RAM do you have?
[06:29] <MikeD412> 4gb
[06:30] <usr13> MikeD412: Create a 4G swap partition, use the rest for a partition for /  (root).
[06:30] <usr13> MikeD412: The other 26G or so for /
[06:31] <MikeD412> ok
[06:31] <usr13> MikeD412: How big is the Hard Drive?
[06:31] <MikeD412> like 400+gb
[06:31] <MikeD412> my c drive
[06:32] <usr13> MikeD412: Your hard drive.
[06:32] <MikeD412> my c drive is my hdd
[06:32] <usr13> MikeD412:  So what does "c drive" mean?  (Think about it....)
[06:33] <user258467> I click on an Icon on my dock and nothing happen is there a log for that problem?
[06:33] <usr13> MikeD412: Continue with the install.
[06:34] <usr13> MikeD412: So, by now, you realize that your "c drive" is *not* your hdd.  Right?
[06:35] <MikeD412> yeah
[06:35] <usr13> MikeD412: Your Hard Drive consists of several partitions, (the "c drive" is what MS Windows calls one of them).
[06:37] <MikeD412> k
[06:37] <MrSassyPants> update-rc.d , but what's the menu-based one called?
[06:38] <usr13> MrSassyPants: It is the way you introduce new init scripts to your system.
[06:39] <MrSassyPants> usr13, er, yea, but iirc there was some menu based thing where you got a list of start scripts
[06:39] <MrSassyPants> and you could just toggle them on and off
[06:40] <MrSassyPants> rcconf! that was it
[06:40] <usr13> !upstart | MrSassyPants
[06:40] <ese> hi, you guys know a fix for skype iun 12.04 32 bits why is not logging?
[06:41] <usr13> !info rcconf | MrSassyPants
[06:42] <usr13> MrSassyPants: you can start or stop your individual services with the command service
[06:42] <MrSassyPants> usr13, oook.
[06:43] <MrSassyPants> thanks.
[06:45] <nowayride> Hey guys, any ideas on this? I installed mumble and during the audio setup input got mangled, my mic is only receiving nothing or very loud (like yelling into the mic) input, tried even uninistalling mumble/pulseaudio, running full updates, reinstalling, nothing
[06:46] <nowayride> It's not just mumble, it's reflected in the input setting screen, the meter only moves when it's overly loud
[06:46] <ese> hi, i got skype and ubuntu precise 32bits, in windows 7 runs good, am 100% sure am giving the right credentials but in ubuntu does not crash or anytrhing, it just hangs and does not login, i can login with my browser, any ideas?
[06:47] <usr13> ese: Are you using virtualbox?
[06:49] <ese> no, dual boot grub in win 7 and ubuntu precise 32bits
[06:49] <ese> usr13,
[06:49] <ese> usr13,  now in ubunbtu
[06:49] <usr13> ese: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[06:50] <usr13> ese: What do you mean, "i can login with my browser"?
[06:51] <usr13> ese: Oh,... You are saying that you can't get skype to login?
[06:52] <ese> usr13,  not in skype but in my browser am in, skype in my windows 7 partition logs in fine.
[06:52] <usr13> ese:  What is the problem?
[06:53] <nowayride> Ubuntu firewall maybe?
[06:53] <ese> when i log in the blue circle keeps spinning and thats it, never passes that.
[06:53] <nowayride> usr13: ese can't log into skype in Ubuntu
[06:53] <ese> nowayride,  no firewall, all my firewall is disable
[06:54] <ShapeShifter499> Hi
[06:54] <usr13> nowayride: I'm starting to get that impression.
[06:54] <ese> i when to skype support page and everybody is having the same problem with precise 12.04
[06:54] <usr13> ese: http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/
[06:54] <ShapeShifter499> I have java 7 and 6 installed but only the java 6 plugin shows up in firefox, how do I get the java 7 plugin to work?   I run ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[06:55] <usr13> ese: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:55] <ese> http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Can-t-sign-in-Ubuntu-12-04/td-p/838226
[06:55] <ese> usr13,  yes my box is uptodate
[06:56] <usr13> ese: Did you rm ~/.Skype  ?
[06:56] <ese> usr13,  i was wonder if you guys come on with the solution, because i been googloing some time now, nothing i can found about it
[06:57] <ese> yes i try rm -rf .Skype and login with my hotmail and my skype accounts same problem
[06:57] <usr13> ese: hotmail?
[06:57] <usr13> ese: (I don't know about hotmail or what it has to do with skype.)
[06:58] <smaudet> ShapeShifter499: remove the java 6 plugin, or better yet, java 6 if you don't need it
[06:58] <ese> yes ...the new skype have two options, login with skype credentials or msn credentials, i choose both with no luck
[06:58] <smaudet> ShapeShifter499: otherwise make sure java 7 is default, with update-alternatives
[06:58] <usr13> ese: Sounds like skype is broken.
[06:58] <ese> usr13,  my msn is a hotmial account
[06:58] <usr13> ese: Yea, got it.
[06:59] <usr13> ese: Just sounds like skype is broken,  Maybe they will get around to fixing it sometime soon...
[06:59] <ese> usr13,  yes, looks like because i been looking for an answer but nothing so far
[06:59] <ShapeShifter499> smaudet, ohh I forgot about "update-alternatives", yea I need java 6 for some android stuff
[06:59] <sett> i had to remove pulseaudio and everything worked fine, today i wake up and it's installed again wtf
[06:59] <ese> one guy sugest running with root but i dont want to do that
[07:00] <usr13> ese: Try downloading from http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-32
[07:00] <usr13> ese: Re-install?
[07:00] <ese> usr13,  i may try running from root skype for testing, hmmm
[07:00] <usr13> ese: Really?  Why would you do that?
[07:01] <sett> what music player is most used now? any advice? just need names
[07:01] <usr13> ese: In other words, no, don't.
[07:01] <ese> usr13, one post suggest running from root, and looks like he run it ok, but i dont want to run skype with root
[07:01] <quick-> sett: Rythombox
[07:02] <quick-> sett banshee
[07:02] <usr13> ese: Yea.  Don't do it.
[07:05] <usr13> ese: My notion is this;  Microsoft will see that skype works ok on the Microsoft Windows platforms.  They will not worry so much about how it runs on Ubuntu. (Maybe if [Ubuntu] users want skype bad enough, they will convert to Microsoft platforms.) (I may be over critical, but just my notion.)
[07:05] <ese> usr13,  i installed skype-beta, am rebooting because i elso install something else thats is asking me to reboot, brb thanks
[07:05] <usr13> ese: Other than that, I'd say try uninstalling it and download directly from skype.com and re-install.
[07:06] <tomtomgps> Will openbox work on waylaid in the future ?
[07:06] <usr13> ese: Ok. Yea.  Good luck.
[07:06] <tomtomgps> wayland*
[07:08] <usr13> exit
[07:08] <smaudet> ShapeShifter499: legacy android support? I should hope Google is using JRE7 for Android 4.0+
[07:09] <ShapeShifter499> smaudet, cyanogenmod suggested to use java 6
[07:09] <lesser_panda> I'm having an issue with bluetooth on 12.04, is there anyone who can offer sage advice?
[07:09] <ShapeShifter499> smaudet, anyways, thank you for the help
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> lesser_panda: you can try to describe your issue
[07:10] <smaudet> ShapeShifter499: you're welcome
[07:11] <gopi> hi
[07:11] <IamTrying> While using OpenVPN i need to set a parameter "plugin plugin /opt/iss/isec/vpn/lib/openvpn/plugins/openvpn-plugin-auth-pam.so login"  but this path do not exist what is the default path for such PAM login?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | IamTrying
[07:12] <lesser_panda> I have managed to get my HP laptop with a built in Bluetooth antenna to connect with and recognize my Samsung Galaxy S3. I can send files to the phone from my laptop but not vice versa.
[07:13] <ese> hmm no luck loging to skype from skype-beta, does anyone can log into skype from linux ubuntu?
[07:13] <ikonia> ese: try not using the beta
[07:13] <ese> am in beta now, with precise 32bits
[07:13] <IamTrying> lotuspsychje, nothing is there about SERVER
[07:13] <ikonia> ese: try not using the beta
[07:14] <ese> i did that before too, can you login to skype alright?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> IamTrying: are you on ubuntu server?
[07:14] <ikonia> I'm not using skype
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> ese: did you install software centre version or web version?
[07:15] <ese> i think microsoft broke it for non-windows users?
[07:15] <ikonia> ese: please don't make things up
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> ese: skype works fine on ubuntu
[07:15] <IamTrying> lotuspsychje, Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit where i need to setup VPN Server which i did, but i need to assign a file which allow VPN client to login with server username/password
[07:15] <ese> lotuspsychje,  yes i try the software center version to, fail
[07:15] <IamTrying> lotuspsychje, missing the path of that file location by default where is such file located?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> ese: try the web version install
[07:16] <ese> lotuspsychje,  what version of skype are you using?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> ese: 64bit skype, latest
[07:17] <gopi> hi i have problem with package installation in ubuntu . showing error
[07:17] <robotti> Don't use Skype. NSA is spying Skype.
[07:18] <gopi> can u solve my problem
[07:18] <ese> i check my firewall rules and all in accept
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> gopi, pastebin the errors.
[07:19] <ese> probably the 32bits skype is broken http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Can-t-sign-in-Ubuntu-12-04/td-p/838226  ?
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> ese, look at the dates, there is a version released after that 4.2
[07:22] <republican_devil> software raid anyone?
[07:22] <republican_devil> is recovering hard?
[07:23] <DarkSim> Yay!
[07:23] <ikonia> republican_devil: you've just said a a group of pointless words, try asking a real question
[07:24] <DarkSim> I got a nice item from the Dota 2 Fantasy Team crate
[07:24] <ikonia> DarkSim: not something this channel is interested in, sorry
[07:24] <DarkSim> Oops
[07:24] <DarkSim> sorry
[07:24] <ikonia> no problem
[07:41] <hcuet> seft?
[07:41] <ikonia> pardon,
[07:41] <republican_devil> anyone here running ha-proxy as a production load balancer solution?
[07:42] <ikonia> republican_devil: ran many an lvs solution as a load balancer
[07:43] <hcuet> no yet oh!
[07:43] <ikonia> hcuet: do you need ubuntu support ?
[07:43] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6039425/ - How do i get this installed please?
[07:45] <home555> ??
[07:45] <ikonia> home555: can we help you ?
[07:46] <home555> Suse це Unix
[07:46] <home555> ??
[07:46] <republican_devil> lvs?
[07:46] <ikonia> home555: /join #suse
[07:46] <republican_devil> like what?
[07:46] <republican_devil> linux virtual server?
[07:46] <ikonia> republican_devil: linux virtual server, it's basically a load balancing/ha daemon setup
[07:46] <republican_devil> I am not sur eI used it
[07:47] <republican_devil> I think redhat has something like that back a ways
[07:47] <republican_devil> I hear ha-proxy is the master nowadays
[07:47] <ikonia> republican_devil: redhat has may solutions,
[07:49] <abrkn> how can i install libxml2 2.8 on precise?
[07:50] <sett> anyone know how to make rhytmbox work with alsa? getting autoaudiosink error when trying to play mp3
[07:50] <bibi32> I can't find what values are allowed in the first bit of umask, docs are only talkink about the other ones, where can I find which value corresponds to sticky bit, group id, ...?
[07:50] <MindSpark> arbkn sudo apt-cache libxml2
[07:50] <MindSpark> woops
[07:50] <MindSpark> sudo apt-cache search libxml2
[07:51] <abrkn> MindSpark:i only see 2.7 there for precise
[07:51] <MindSpark> then locate the package and install
[07:51] <MindSpark> then it's possible there's no package for that version in the repos
[07:51] <MindSpark> you may have to compile it yourself
[07:51] <abrkn> MindSpark: i'll need to build from source?
[07:51] <ghost_> asalamualaikum
[07:51] <abrkn> MindSpark: ok
[07:51] <MindSpark> ghost_: peace be upon you too
[07:52] <MindSpark> abrkn: you might find another repo with the package
[07:52] <MindSpark> you'd have to edit your sources.list file and add the repo
[07:53] <ghost_> MindSpark : are U moeslem.,.?
[07:53] <MindSpark> ghost_: doesn't make a difference on this channel
[07:54] <MindSpark> it's an irrelevant question :)
[07:55] <ghost_> MindSpark : ooh.,  I'm sorry., ^_^
[07:57] <ghost_> can anybody help me,  my ubuntu frequent errors.
[07:57] <cfhowlett> !details|ghost_,
[07:58] <ghost_> ubottu : yes
[07:58] <ghost_> pleace wait
[07:59] <bibi32> is it possible with umask to get the group of the parent directory as group owner when creating files in a directory by default?
[08:00] <legend321> Is Medibuntu illegal to use? Lately i tried everything to eliminate static sounds coming out from ubuntu(including downloading ubuntu restricted extras), but it was of no use. Then i downloaded and installed some packages from medibuntu and it fixed my problem.
[08:01] <smaudet> legend321: legal gray area
[08:01] <cfhowlett> legend321, not illegal ....
[08:01] <smaudet> legend321: although there is plenty of non-gray stuff in medibuntu
[08:02] <ghost_> ubottu : I get the following output sorry, ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error.if you notice further problems, try restarting the computer
[08:02] <MindSpark> bibi32: what do you mean get the group? are you trying to setuid?
[08:02] <MindSpark> ghost_: when do you get this error?
[08:02] <MindSpark> this sounds like a windows error to me :P
[08:03] <smaudet> ghost_: that is the automated error management
[08:03] <legend321> smaudet: Is medibuntu officially supported by ubuntu?
[08:03] <roninn> where does 2>&1 go?
[08:03] <smaudet> smaudet: depends. I'm not official ubuntu, just a volunteer. Are volunteers official? Medibuntu is volunteer.
[08:03] <MindSpark> roninn: redirects stderr to stdout
[08:04] <legend321> ok
[08:04] <ghost_> MindSpark : every time I turn on the laptop
[08:04] <roninn> stdout is hmm where? :|
[08:04] <MindSpark> ghost_: which part? after booting?
[08:04] <MindSpark> ghost_:  or before loading the startup screen?
[08:04] <MindSpark> roninn: on your screen :)
[08:04] <smaudet> ghost_: if you want you should be able to choose a 'more details' option, and you should have some sort of error notification show up in your task bar
[08:05] <MindSpark> roninn:  http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[08:05] <smaudet> ghost_: there is some program which is dying at every boot.
[08:05] <bibi32> MindSpark: I'm trying to set guid with umask
[08:05] <smaudet> ghost_: if you want to know more about the ubuntu error reporting look up apport
[08:06] <legend321> I have a problem in ubuntu 12.04. Whenever there is a broadband connection problem, ubuntu waits for two-three minutes looking for network. can i skip this waiting?
[08:06] <bibi32> MindSpark: I mean that when I create a file in a directory, it isn't owned by my group, but group of the parent directory
[08:06] <MindSpark> bibi32: then the setgid bit is set on the parent dir
[08:06] <ese> i found out that skype leaves a zombie process to PPid in init 1!  [skype] <defunct>   if belongs to init 1: cat /proc/22164/status | grep -i ppid -> PPid:	1  ...how can you kill a zombie with parent to init 1 without halting your box? i think this is a major bug for skype 32bits!
[08:07] <gordonjcp> ese: you can't
[08:07] <gordonjcp> !zombie
[08:07] <gordonjcp> oh, no factoid for that
[08:07] <bibi32> MindSpark: so this has nothing to do with umask?
[08:07] <ese> gordonjcp, yes, this flaw is big on skype
[08:08] <gordonjcp> ese: you could try contacting the authors, but it's unlikely they'll ever fix it
[08:08] <gordonjcp> ese: well the zombie processes don't really cause a problem as such
[08:08] <gordonjcp> ese: it's not the biggest problem Skype has
[08:08] <smaudet> ese: where bad program are concerned, contact authors. Where authors are unavailable, obtain source. Where source is unavaible, stop using that program.
[08:09] <nowayride> Pidgin really enjoys leaving zombies too
[08:09] <MindSpark> bibi32: not sure if you can set gid/uid using umask. But you just need to chmod u-s or chmod g-s on the parent dir
[08:09] <smaudet> And purge all copies of it from your hdd
[08:09] <ese> gordonjcp, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6039484/
[08:09] <nowayride> smaudet: Dear Microsoft, please fix your Linux program? Give us the source? Heh...
[08:09] <smaudet> nowayride: pretty much
[08:09] <MindSpark> bibi32: man chmod, then look up SETUID AND SETGID
[08:10] <smaudet> nowayride: last step, stop using Skype and use something else
[08:10] <nowayride> Probably the only legit step with SKype
[08:11] <smaudet> Its not anti-Microsoft, just anti-bad programs.
[08:11] <ese> the problem is i own a usa phone number i use to call my relatives from here mexixco, i hate to waste the year i have prepaid!
[08:11] <smaudet> ese: skype's fault
[08:11] <smaudet> ese: ask for a refund?
[08:11] <nowayride> Speaking of bad programs, why did mumble break my mic? :( After trying to autoconfigure it's only showing input for like, yelling right next to it, even in Ubuntu settings
[08:11] <smaudet> !offtopic | ese
[08:13] <ghost_> MindSpark : after boot, Always out the bugs
[08:13] <sett> anyone know what to do? installed all plugins but still get Skipping unavailable plugin 'sunaudiosink'
[08:13] <MindSpark> ghost_:  maybe you have a bad boot record?
[08:14] <smaudet> MindSpark: unlikely, he probably just has a bad config file somewhere
[08:14] <smaudet> !details | ghost_
[08:14] <MindSpark> ghost_: do you get to the login screen?
[08:14] <smaudet> We need to know more.
[08:16] <MindSpark> ghost_: like smaudet, we need more info on the problem. Where do you get the error? after which line? Does the system halt or can you switch terminals? etc.
[08:20] <bibi32> MindSpark: ok thx I've found it, it's "chmod g+s"
[08:21] <smaudet> ghost_: this is your error right? http://itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Screenshot-from-2013-03-26-205909.png
[08:21] <smaudet> ghost_: could you please hit the button called 'Show Details' and tell us what it says
[08:23] <ngochai> hi guys, there's one line in my /etc/shadow looks like  username:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:15401:0:99999:7:::  (no dollar sign), what kind of hash is it?
[08:23] <lesser_panda> Hmmm so I am still stuck after trying a few things. My laptop running32 bit Ubuntu 12.04  still won't receive files via Bluetooth from my Samsung Galaxy S3. I can send files TO the phone just fine. The Bluetooth antenna on the laptop is built in, and it connects to my wireless keyboard just fine...
[08:23] <smaudet> ghost_: or if you could find the following icon in your task tray (upper right): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Apport_logo.svg/120px-Apport_logo.svg.png
[08:24] <smaudet> click on it and see what the error is.
[08:27] <cfhowlett> lesser_panda, airdroid.
[08:28] <blazemore> lesser_panda: +1 for airdroid
[08:28] <cfhowlett> lesser_panda, airdroid for android.  install, go to wifi, link and transfer
[08:28] <lesser_panda> I'll give it a try. Is it like Kies Air? because I have that on this phone already.
[08:29] <cfhowlett> lesser_panda, don't know, never heard of it.
[08:29] <blazemore> lesser_panda: Sort of, but less clunky
[08:29] <bibi32> my umask is 0002, when I create a file it is 664, shouldn't this be 775?
[08:29] <smaudet> lesser_panda: rule of apps on android (not an android expert); if its not popular, you're lucky if it works
[08:29] <lesser_panda> Ah good blazemore, glad to hear it.
[08:30] <smaudet> lesser_panda: xda forums seems to full of people who know android
[08:31] <MindSpark> ghost_: I recommend you delete the .cache dir in your homedir and login again
[08:32] <MindSpark> if this doesn't work, move the .config dir to something like .config-old and see if the error goes away, if it does, it's some misconfiguration
[08:32] <smaudet> MindSpark: I suppose, but there are literally hundreds of reasons it could be erroring
[08:32] <smaudet> You can't cover every case just because someone doesn't give more details.
[08:33] <smaudet> The best you can really say in that case is "re-install ubuntu"
[08:33] <MindSpark> smaudet: like you said, probably a config problem. But just to make sure it is, that's a quick and sloppy method to find out
[08:33] <smaudet> Which I do not recommend
[08:34] <smaudet> MindSpark: I've had very few problems with my .config files, maybe I'm just lucky
[08:34] <MindSpark> smaudet: there's no need to reinstall anything if X loads and he can log in and everything.
[08:34] <smaudet> usually when stuff goes kerplut a package maintainer did something stupid
[08:34] <smaudet> And the config is buried in the system somewhere, or there's another compatability
[08:34] <smaudet> compatability issue
[08:34] <smaudet> So yes, re-install is about the only pat-way of ensuring that 'out of the box' 'just works'
[08:35] <MindSpark> smaudet: this is a user specific configuration issue. I am almost sure if he uses a different user the error won't popup again.
[08:35] <smaudet> Since that's at least supposed to be QA'ed and working
[08:35] <smaudet> MindSpark: you don't even know that
[08:35] <smaudet> Its likely, yes
[08:35] <smaudet> But you could just be wasting his time and configuration
[08:35] <MindSpark> smaudet: we're trying to troubleshoot and think together here
[08:35] <cfhowlett> MindSpark, easily tested.  create a new user and see
[08:35] <ghost_> smaudet : yes that is my error, http://itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Screenshot-from-2013-03-26-205909.png
[08:35] <MindSpark> that's why I recommended to move the configuration to another name
[08:36] <smaudet> MindSpark: its not a bad suggestion, but its a rather drastic one
[08:36] <MindSpark> why drastic?
[08:36] <smaudet> Because it removes all your configuration? (most of it anyways)
[08:36] <MindSpark> you move your config dir into confi.old. If it doesn't work, you move it back and as if nothing happened
[08:36] <smaudet> You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater
[08:36] <MindSpark> huh?
[08:37] <smaudet> If he's made any changes
[08:37] <smaudet> he loses the good ones with the bad ones
[08:37] <timfrost> bibi32: For a umask of 002, a file with 664 is correct, because the EXEC bit isn't set by default
[08:37] <ghost_> MindSpark : how to delete cache in my homedir
[08:37] <MindSpark> smaudet: did you read what I suggested?
[08:37] <smaudet> And if he can't find the old config error, likelyhood is he won't know how to find the 'good' stuff
[08:37] <smaudet> even if he keeps a backup
[08:37] <smaudet> yes, you said to move to config.old and login again
[08:38] <MindSpark> smaudet: correct, that's 100% safe
[08:38] <smaudet> MindSpark: safe, but still overly destructive, IMHO
[08:38] <smaudet> for a new user at least
[08:38] <MindSpark> smaudet: not destructive at all
[08:38] <smaudet> ghost_: good, can you press 'Show Details' and tell us what it says?
[08:39] <smaudet> MindSpark: I only see it as non-destructive if you return .config.old to .config, in which case the problem is back.
[08:40] <smaudet> So I guess you know where the problem is or isn't at that point, but it doesn't solve the problem.
[08:40] <MindSpark> smaudet: exactly, and that is how I troubleshoot
[08:40] <MindSpark> smaudet: once you know where the problem is, you get into more details
[08:40] <MindSpark> that's how you pinpoint a problem
[08:40] <smaudet> MindSpark: great, but that's roundabout
[08:40] <smaudet> You need details to find a problem
[08:40] <MindSpark> is the problem in the interior, the motor or the chassis?
[08:41] <MindSpark> oh the motor? then which part of the motor
[08:41] <MindSpark> etc...
[08:41] <smaudet> That is one way to find a detail, but a not very efficient way
[08:41] <smaudet> imo
[08:41] <blazemore> Is it possible to pass a flag to ./configure to have that flag applied to all occurences of gcc? the flag in question is -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2
[08:41] <ghost_> smaudet : please wait I'm restarting my system
[08:41] <MindSpark> smaudet: hmmm… interesting. So there is a definitve guide to fix problems?
[08:42] <smaudet> MindSpark: if your check engine light comes on, are you going to check the tires first? Of course not.
[08:42] <smaudet> You use the details the system gives you first
[08:42] <smaudet> Not ones you think might be the problem.
[08:42] <MindSpark> blazemore: depends on the configuration script I guess?
[08:42] <clue_h> i'd check the tires
[08:42] <clue_h> tyres
[08:42] <MindSpark> lol
[08:42] <smaudet> psh
[08:43] <MindSpark> blazemore:  you could just edit the ./configure script and hardcode the option inside
[08:43] <smaudet> MindSpark: and yes, actually, there is, its called Occam's Razor, and its the method I used to say config issues are the most likely
[08:44] <MindSpark> smaudet: I'll look that up, thanks, maybe I'll be able to prevent the next world war
[08:44] <smaudet> MindSpark: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/occam.html
[08:45] <MindSpark> smaudet: reading on wikipedia, will read your link as soon as I am done, thanks!
[08:45] <MindSpark> hmm in fact, yours looks better
[08:46] <smaudet> In this case I'm saying the simpler method is just to hit 'Show Details' and see the problem report
[08:46] <timfrost> blazemore: many configure scripts pick up "CFLAGS' or similar environment variables and pass them to the make command.  Try 'CFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2'
[08:46] <smaudet> Not run 100 tests to find where the config issue is :P
[08:47] <MindSpark> smaudet: I never said he shouldn't open the logs. I also never suggested 100 test ;)
[08:47] <MindSpark> test
[08:47] <MindSpark> tests
[08:47] <smaudet> MindSpark: purposeful exaggeration to make a point ;)
[08:48] <MindSpark> but I am assuming he will find a 0x4340873 memory overrun in the log which won't give enough info. Just me though, I never had apport or even X to begin with when I started my journey
[08:50] <smaudet> MindSpark: usually in my experience the apport logs are pretty nice
[08:50] <smaudet> I would recommend your approach on Windows since you do get more random error dumps of memory there ;)
[09:07] <ghost_> smaudet : I'm sent file with you screenshot.png
[09:08] <ghost_> MindSpark : I'm sent file with you screenshot.png
[09:13] <smaudet> ghost_: could you just paste online: http://imagebin.org/ ?
[09:16] <MindSpark> ghost_: yes, imagebin it so we can all see it
[09:16] <foo2> hello
[09:16] <christos_> for help?
[09:18] <ghost_> smaudet : http://imagebin.org/269092
[09:18] <foo2> I generated a key using gpg --gen-key. I then installed seahorse, but I don't see that key in seahorse
[09:18] <foo2> Can anyone help me with that?
[09:19] <ghost_> MindSpark : http://imagebin.org/269092
[09:23] <ghost_> smaudet : why.,/?
[09:23] <smaudet> ghost_ one sec
[09:23] <ghost_> MindSpark : why.,?
[09:24] <MindSpark> ghost_: ok, this is a daemon error, not sure what bamf does, but you should start with googling something like "bamfdaemon crashed"
[09:24] <MindSpark> that's what I am doing right now
[09:26] <smaudet> ghost_: here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/1063544
[09:26] <ghost_> MindSpark : whether this has to do with compiz effect that I give.,?
[09:26] <MindSpark> ghost_: you need to know what is crashing first
[09:27] <MindSpark> http://askubuntu.com/questions/260734/what-does-bamfdaemon-do
[09:27] <MindSpark> again, I recommend you try to clear the cache folder as a start
[09:27] <MindSpark> open a terminal
[09:27] <MindSpark> type cd ~
[09:27] <MindSpark> then mv .cache .cache-old
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: 'cd'   on it's own goes to $HOME too :)
[09:28] <MindSpark> then logout and login again
[09:28] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip: yea :) I typed that at first
[09:28] <smaudet> ghost_: the link I sent you means your issue is known, current, and will be resolved ASAP
[09:29] <MindSpark> ghost_: or simply open your file manager locate the .cache file (you might need to reveal hidden files) and rename it to something else
[09:29] <ghost_> what should i do guys.,??
[09:30] <smaudet> ghost_: how much memory does your computer have?
[09:30] <MindSpark> yes it looks like a confirmed bug on launchpade
[09:30] <MindSpark> pad
[09:30] <qin> Problem with apt, output of apt-get instal -f and lsb_release -a; apparently there is some problem with libjack package. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6039694/
[09:30] <smaudet> This is a guess, but the crash reason is as stated in the bug report 'SegvReason: writing NULL VMA'
[09:31] <smaudet> Which means some memory access is failing, just a guess but perhaps you have very little memory
[09:32] <ghost_> smaudet : may be 320 GB, for ubuntu 32 GB
[09:32] <smaudet> VMA is a virtual memory location; I don't know anything about VMA but it sounds like 'extra' memory the linux system creates when it runs short
[09:32] <smaudet> ghost_: do you know the amount of RAM? Not hard drive space
[09:33] <smaudet> ghost_: how old is the computer?
[09:36] <foo2> how can I install gpa? there seems to be no package for that
[09:36] <ikonia> gpa?
[09:36] <ikonia> what is gpa ?
[09:36] <clue_h> giant panda app
[09:37] <smaudet> foo2: just use the website
[09:37] <smaudet> foo2: it may not be in the repos
[09:37] <smaudet> ikonia: its gnupg
[09:37] <smaudet> GPA is Gnu Privacy Assistant
[09:37] <ikonia> ahh,
[09:38] <ikonia> thank you
[09:38] <ghost_> smaudet : my be 1 GB RAM
[09:38] <ghost_> spec my computer is dualcore, RAM :1GB Hardisk 320.
[09:38] <ghost_> smaudet : smaudet
[09:38] <ghost_> smaudet :  spec my computer is dualcore, RAM :1GB Hardisk 320.
[09:38] <FloodBot1> ghost_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <ghost_> you are welcome
[09:38] <smaudet> ghost_: that may be part of your problem then, those specs are a little low for ubuntu 13.04
[09:38] <smaudet> I'd recommend at least 2 GB ram
[09:39] <smaudet> I run 4 GB
[09:39] <karab44> hello
[09:39] <smaudet> ghost_: of course if it works for you and you are just getting an annoying popup, it might be worth your time just to not re-install
[09:40] <karab44> is there a friendly tool to check what modules has been installed on ubuntu desktop? I mean like deamons apache/php /posftix and other stuff like that
[09:40] <ikonia> karab44: dpkg -l
[09:40] <smaudet> ghost_: its not a serious issue though, its just annoying and you can ignore it, likely completely safely
[09:40] <smaudet> dpkg -l mypackage*
[09:40] <ikonia> karab44: initctl list
[09:40] <christos_> anyone for help'?
[09:40] <ikonia> christos_: if you ask a question people can try to help
[09:40] <ghost_> smaudet : emm.,. what spec your computer ?
[09:41] <smaudet> 4 GB, 0.5 TB HDD, dual core 2.4 Ghz
[09:41] <christos_> i bought a wifi usb .. i have the cd drivers for linux but i cant install it and i want help ... i am using 12.04 lts
[09:41] <karab44> ikonia: thanks!
[09:41] <ikonia> christos_: ok, so ask what you need help with
[09:41] <smaudet> ghost_: ubuntu recommends 13.04 for 'new' computers
[09:41] <christos_> how can i install it
[09:41] <smaudet> 12.04 is what I run
[09:41] <smaudet> and is for older computers
[09:41] <ikonia> christos_: what does the documentation say ? are you sure you need to install it ?
[09:42] <ghost_> smaudet : owww., your computer is macintosh ?
[09:42] <smaudet> ghost_: nope, dell
[09:42] <christos_> ikonia: i am connenting usb with pc but cant do my to connect with wifi
[09:42] <ikonia> christos_: what does the documentation say ? are you sure you need to install it ?
[09:43] <christos_> ikonia:  yes bcs linux cant find it as wifi usb
[09:43] <ikonia> christos_: 1.) what does the documentation say 2.) because it can' find it out of the box doesn't mean you need to install anything (although it may)
[09:44] <karab44> by the way... ubuntu 12.04 desktop wont install on my PC. I have installed 1204LTS server but I want to overwrite it. I tried livecd, now liveusb hags on first ubuntu logo. Weird thing is that live cd works from USB, but won't install.
[09:44] <karab44> Oh! It just said Unable to find a medium containing a live file system.
[09:45] <smaudet> christos_: I'm not going to be around much longer
[09:45] <christos_> ikonia:  ok how can i know that isb is working correctly
[09:45] <christos_> ?
[09:45] <smaudet> but I'd look at the model, and see what drivers there are for it
[09:45] <ikonia> christos_: what does the documentation say about it
[09:45] <d3vZer0> hi all
[09:45] <christos_> ikonia:  what do you meann the read me file?
[09:45] <smaudet> christos_: if your wireless is working, you should see some wifi output from ifconfig
[09:45] <karab44> do I have to format my disk drive first?
[09:45] <smaudet> e.g. ifconfig | grep eth1
[09:46] <auronandace> ikonia: christos_  usb wifi is the ralink: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsVarious#USB
[09:46] <smaudet> christos_: did you have to install anything when you used it on windows?
[09:46] <christos_> ikonia:  i have done ifconfig and i have 3 parts 1.eth0  2. lo 3.wlan0
[09:46] <nerdtron> karab44 which disk drive? the internal drive where ubuntu server is installed? no you don't have to format it before booting
[09:46] <smaudet> christos_: its working then
[09:46] <smaudet> unless you have another wifi card
[09:46] <nerdtron> it will be formated when you install Ubuntu anyway
[09:46] <smaudet> wlan0 is your adaptor
[09:47] <smaudet> eth0 is probably your ethernet link
[09:47] <karab44> nerdtron: I have two disks one is SSD / and 2x WD 500GB RAID0
[09:47] <karab44> and I install on SSD, where is 1204LTS already
[09:47] <christos_> smaudet: for windows i have to and i neeed it for here i think
[09:47] <karab44> but I want to overwrite it.
[09:47] <smaudet> christos_: if its working, you should be able to see the wifi networks by opening the NetworkManager
[09:48] <karab44> and no menu appears, only ubuntu logo with dots changing color
[09:48] <nerdtron> karab44 when you choose erase everything and install ubuntu, the hard drive will be formated again
[09:48] <smaudet> christos_: well then it could be the wrong driver was selected for it
[09:48] <karab44> but no menu is shown, I have no choice
[09:48] <christos_> smaudet:  i cant find NetworkManager
[09:49] <smaudet> ikonia: what is NetworkManager called in gui land?
[09:49] <nerdtron> karab44 press the arrow keys up or down to see the text mode and post the last lines
[09:49] <smaudet> nm-applet is the package I believe
[09:49] <ikonia> gnome-network-manager
[09:49] <ikonia> it's part of the desktop
[09:49] <ikonia> smaudet: yes, thats the actual applet on screen
[09:49] <karab44> nerdtron: I have only choice Run Live system/ Install ubuntu so I choose install ant then nothing happens. Just logo and dots...
[09:50] <smaudet> christos_: following ikonia's suggestion, I'd look for gnome-network-manager
[09:50] <smaudet> if you don't see the network icon in the upper right corner
[09:50] <ikonia> shouldn't need to look for anything, it's already installed on the desktop
[09:50] <karab44> nerdtron: live system works fine. I boot from USB.
[09:50] <karab44> nerdtron: Ill try to get some logs
[09:51] <nerdtron> karab44 when you are in live mode, click the install option in the desktop
[09:51] <karab44> okay
[09:51] <christos_> smaudet: in the software ceneter i have downloaded the manager but in my pc i cant find it
[09:51] <amigo> guys, how to tell exim4 to send mail with full name sender? FROM: Jhon Doe <jhon@doe.com>
[09:52] <smaudet> christos_: well, assuming you manage to find the manager (there should be some icons in your menu bar, upper right)
[09:52] <smaudet> it could be that the wrong driver is installed, in that case you will have to find the right one, install, then sudo modprobe -r baddriver
[09:52] <smaudet> sudo modprobe gooddriver
[09:53] <smaudet> may need to restart NetworkManger e.g. sudo service network-manager restart
[09:53] <christos_> smaudet:  from where i can do wifi check
[09:53] <smaudet> http://s2.hubimg.com/u/2986461_f496.jpg
[09:54] <smaudet> If you can see in the upper right there is a small wifi icon
[09:54] <smaudet> next to the volume
[09:55] <smaudet> also check auronadace's link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsVarious#USB
[09:55] <smaudet> see if your card is in there or not, if it is install that driver
[09:56] <smaudet> And if that doesn't work you can try using fw-cutter
[09:56] <nl287> strange
[09:57] <nl287> Reading package lists... Error!
[09:57] <nl287> Segmentation fault
[09:57] <smaudet> Although that doesn't always work well, and I'm not ready to sit here debugging it the rest of the night
[09:57] <smaudet> christos_: good luck
[09:59] <karab44> nerdtron: I am processing installation, I will let you know is it succeed
[10:00] <karab44> nerdtron: and yes, through USB live mode
[10:01] <karab44> probably I know, what could be the problem. My bios beta makes USB stuff not always work. After boot/reboot they get big lag.
[10:01] <karab44> this is how it finish when you experiment with uefi
[10:01] <vice_> Hi! How can i do link open source in skype permanent? It always asks me, and theres no checkbox or smth
[10:02] <smaudet> !offtopic | vice_
[10:04] <nerdtron> karab44 maybe the "hang" state you get in the logo and the dots, you'll just have to wait a few minutes
[10:04] <nerdtron> sometimes it is very slow
[10:05] <smaudet> karab44: custom bios wat? I'd get rid of that beta bios if I were you.
[10:05] <nerdtron> karab44 I always turn off uefi,,,,,it doesn't bring anything except troubles :)
[10:06] <karab44> nerdtron: I did wait quite long and patient and I get "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" message
[10:07] <karab44> but now it just started to work conditionless. First time with liveUSB, now installator shown on booting
[10:08] <karab44> smaudet: unfortunately, producer released beta - first uefi bios for my mobo.
[10:08] <nerdtron> you sure you "burned" the usb correctly? or rather is your ISO good? better try it other computers just to be sure
[10:08] <nerdtron> karab44 oh it started the installation?? let's wait for the result
[10:09] <karab44> I set time zones and other stuff, it didn't showup before.
[10:09] <karab44> So it should be fine now
[10:10] <qin> Problem with apt, output of apt-get instal -f and lsb_release -a; apparently there is some problem with libjack package. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6039694/
[10:11] <karab44> during the installation - is computer name a place where I set a full qualified domain name?
[10:11] <karab44> It is where I set name and username and passwords
[10:12] <christos_> anyone who know about bluetooth?
[10:12] <aeon-ltd> christos_: just ask the actual question anyway
[10:13] <Shootingiron> Hello, is there a free irc chat client with spell check available for ubuntu?
[10:13] <christos_> can i send a file via bluetooth with out the other device accept my request?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> christos_, pretty sure that the receiver has to verify permission
[10:13] <Shootingiron> christos: sounds suspicious. =)
[10:15] <nerdtron> karab44 yes computer name is the hostname only and not the FQDN, you can always change it after install
[10:16] <aeon-ltd> christos_: there are some devices i've used that can skip the verification for 'known' devices. why would you need this? if you own the device usb would be much faster and reliable
[10:16] <christos_> ok
[10:16] <karab44> nerdtron: you mean in these hosts and hostname files?
[10:16] <karab44> it shouldnt be a big problem
[10:16] <nerdtron> Shootingiron XChat spell checks while you are typing :)
[10:17] <karab44> Ok installation completed
[10:17] <nerdtron> karab44 yes, hosts and hostsname, don't forget to run sudo hostname restart and logout login to see changes
[10:17] <karab44> it boots in 3 seconds :)
[10:17] <karab44> 2,5 maybe
[10:17] <karab44> very fast
[10:17] <christos_> for ex. i want to send a message for my bday  .. and with request it will take more time so with out answer for myy request i will send my invitation .. can i?
[10:17] <Shootingiron> nerdtron: Thanks .. are some of these clients only available in certain desktop environments?
[10:17] <peppo> hi! how do I show my network mounts (NFS) in the left launcher panel? both of my currently mounted nfs shares were showing before, but now they're gone.
[10:18] <aeon-ltd> christos_: use bluetooth to send a message? seriously?
[10:18] <nerdtron> Shootingiron i'm using Xchat in Ubuntu and Xubuntu and KDE...all is well
[10:18] <christos_> its free !
[10:18] <nerdtron> christos_ but it is very short range
[10:18] <aeon-ltd> christos_: also limited to about 30 meters
[10:19] <christos_> its ok but can i?
[10:19] <Shootingiron> Nerdtron: very nice, thanks for your time. =)
[10:19] <karab44> okay, it works flowless
[10:19] <aeon-ltd> christos_: no the reciever needs to be set to auto accept
[10:19] <christos_> hmmm
[10:19] <aeon-ltd> christos_: you cannot forcibly push unlike radio broadcasting
[10:19] <nerdtron> peppo while you view the shared folder, create a book mark for it..what file manager are you using?
[10:20] <peppo> nerdtron, nautilus I guess. it wasn't a bookmark before and it still showed a network mount folder icon in the launcher panel
[10:20] <peppo> (the left thingy)
[10:20] <nerdtron> karab44 congrats..glad to hear that
[10:20] <christos_> hmm i heard that a friend did this  ...
[10:20] <karab44> okay, let's try something completely different. Is there a fast and nice way to make snapshots of this system to let's say another drive?
[10:21] <karab44> nerdtron: thank you. It's up to you :)
[10:21] <nerdtron> karab44 i have no idea.. it think similar to Mac time machine is "back in time"
[10:21] <karab44> I mean installation works thanks to you :)
[10:22] <aeon-ltd> christos_: you know how this looks right?
[10:22] <nerdtron> karab44 you're welcome....
[10:22] <christos_> wich ?
[10:22] <peppo> nerdtron, a bookmark how? there's no such context menu item
[10:22] <karab44> ok but I thing about like system image like snapshot in virtualbox.
[10:22] <aeon-ltd> christos_: what it sounds like you want to do
[10:22] <karab44> when something go terribly wrong I just summon good system.
[10:23] <nerdtron> peppo hmmm i think you should go up one folder up the directory, then drag the folder you want to the left pane
[10:23] <peppo> nerdtron, nope, it doesn't add it, it just shows that it can open the folder with nautilus
[10:23] <nerdtron> karab44 i don't think that exists yet in live systems...I believed the answer to that is Cclone your hard drive...
[10:23] <edheldil> Hi all, has anybody experienced a problem with timed waking up sleeping syscalls on precise? E.g. in iostat, there's { alarm(1); ... ; pause(); }, but the SIGALARM frequently comes after several (e.g. 5) seconds. Consequently, iostat sometimes waits much longer than expected between  outputs. Similar for ping, that does { setsockopt(fd, SO_RECVTIMEO, 1); recvmsg(fd); } - the EAGAIN comes not after 1sec, but sometimes after sever
[10:23] <edheldil> al seconds
[10:24] <nerdtron> peppo sorry..need to go ....
[10:24] <christos_> aeon-ltd:  i want to send invitation for my b-day to my friends via bluetooth but i dont want to answer me to my request for the msg bcs it will take more time..
[10:24] <karab44> nerdtron: it is a good point.
[10:24] <aeon-ltd> christos_: that sounds like a lie
[10:24] <karab44> I heard about clonezzila but I was just wondering is something build into ubuntu and I could for example make automated launch periodicly
[10:25] <peppo> anyone know how to force the unity launcher to start showing network mounts again?
[10:25] <christos_> aeon-ltd:  bluetooth msg are free if i start to call to all my friends i will waste my money
[10:25] <edheldil> I suspect that could be caused by dynamic ticks and AMD cpu, but so far disabling dynticks did not improve the scheduling
[10:25] <aeon-ltd> christos_: at <30 meters you could just ask them, or use paper
[10:26] <christos_> aeon-ltd:  its more action with mob ... where is the lie what can i send.. its not pc just a mob
[10:27] <aeon-ltd> christos_: if your friend did this then ask them, if you have 2 devices keep trying to do this, afaik it isn't possible without accepting a prior message then setting it to auto-accept future messages
[10:28] <christos_> aeon-ltd:  okk thanks its this that i want to hear :)
[10:30] <nl287> i have a verry seroius problema on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS every time i do apt-get update there is segmentation fault
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> nl287: have you tested RAM using Memtest?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> nl287: have you booted to livecd/usb to run an fsck on your partition?
[10:46] <manornk> Hi guys, i won't to build similar web program as Blogilo, do you know how can i make one, what is its working system
[10:47] <chicco> ciao !list
[10:47] <chicco> !list
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> manornk  are you a developer? if yes, try #ubuntu-app-devel
[10:50] <manornk> MonkeyDust: ok, thanks you for your help :)
[10:51] <HypnotiX> how can i see why ubuntu takes 2-3mins to load after login ?
[10:52] <blazemore> HypnotiX: Does it do it for every user?
[10:52] <HypnotiX> im the only user
[10:52] <blazemore> Try the guest user
[10:53] <HypnotiX> ok brb
[10:54] <wanttolovedjango> How do I can install sqlite on ubuntu ?
[10:54] <aeon-ltd> wanttolovedjango: not in the repos?
[10:55] <wanttolovedjango> Is sqlite3 a gui for sqlite ?
[10:55] <nl287> wanttolovedjango: apt-cache search sqlite
[10:55] <HypnotiX> for guest its almost instant for my user its ~2mins
[10:56] <aeon-ltd> HypnotiX: what starts after login?
[10:56] <blazemore> OK HypnotiX on your user, take a look in the startup applications. disable them all, and renable them one by one until you find the one causing problems
[10:57] <HypnotiX> in the startup i have dropbox, chrome, and a bit of terminal code i run to remap a key for my mouse
[10:57] <blazemore> Which one of them is causing the delay?
[10:57] <HypnotiX> i will try now
[10:57] <jonascj> Hi all. Could somebody tell me having a LVM swap partition or having a swap file on a lvm partition is as good as a normal partition? I don't know the internal mechanics of LVM but having those very flexible volumes could suggest that the logical volumes (i.e. my swap partition) would not be contiguous on disk.
[10:57] <ikonia> jonascj: no different
[10:58] <HypnotiX> ok it was dropbox
[10:58] <HypnotiX> its instant without it
[10:58] <jonascj> ikonia: empirical fact or does LVM ensure contiguous partitions?
[10:58] <HypnotiX> sigh
[10:58] <alt^255> Hi. I'm installing ubuntu 12.04.1 and in the past hour I'm getting a signature mismatch with package libjs-json
[10:59] <blazemore> HypnotiX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22512/how-can-i-delay-dropbox-from-starting-but-not-disable-it
[10:59] <blazemore> alt^255: have you tried running sudo apt-get update first?
[10:59] <wanttolovedjango> Where is the place of sqlite file on ubuntu ?
[10:59] <ikonia> jonascj: it should order data from the VG against PE block sizes per LV,
[10:59] <alt^255> blazemore: yes, several times. It all worked in the last install, an hour ago.
[10:59] <edheldil> Hi all, has anybody experienced a problem with timed waking up sleeping syscalls on precise? E.g. in iostat, there's { alarm(1); ... ; pause(); }, but the SIGALARM frequently comes after several (e.g. 5) seconds. Consequently, iostat sometimes waits much longer than expected between  outputs. Similar for ping, that does { setsockopt(fd, SO_RECVTIMEO, 1); recvmsg(fd); } - the EAGAIN comes not after 1sec, but sometimes after sever
[10:59] <edheldil> al seconds
[10:59] <blazemore> alt^255: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages
[10:59] <alt^255> blazemore: I'm using http://archive not any mirror
[11:00] <HypnotiX> blazemore: thanx
[11:00] <alt^255> blazemore: I'd rather not run custom scripts if possible. apt-get -u dist-upgrade forced the install and things are OK now, I'm just paranoid.
[11:00] <jonascj> ikonia: okay thanks, i'll take your word for it and read up on LVM another day :)
[11:00] <blazemore> alt^255: Take a look at what it does
[11:00] <wanttolovedjango> can anyone help
[11:02] <alt^255> blazemore: I see. I guess I'm not the first to ask such questions ;)
[11:03] <jonascj> uh, one last: swap file vs. swap partition. Any good points? They perform the same as far as I can read, but any manageability arguments?
[11:03] <blazemore> alt^255: It's a nuclear approach (those commands) - but it does sort out nearly all packaging problems
[11:03] <blazemore> jonascj: Not much to consider in terms of performance - up to you whether you find it easier to manage
[11:03] <alt^255> blazemore: I understand. Still I wonder what happened in the past hour..? Except the NSA doing runtime data injection to read all my mail.. oh, no, wait..
[11:03] <alt^255> thanks.
[11:05] <jonascj> blazemore: I was just looking for arguments like: "you can live resize your swap file but not a regular partition"
[11:07] <jonascj> blazemore: but perhaps there are none. I'll give it a good chance that the only manageability differences are the tools you use, resize2fs vs dd and so on.
[11:31] <jackson_> hello!
[11:37] <support_> I need help in solving some right access problem. I formatted my external hdd (2 Tb) in ext4, now I can't copy anything there and so on without having sudo rights. How can I change that?
[11:40] <CatKiller> support_: sudo chown -R username:username /mnt/MyHardDrive
[11:40] <CatKiller> where "username" is your own
[11:40] <support_> and if I'll reconnect it to other PC?
[11:41] <CatKiller> support_: Other Linux running machine?
[11:41] <support_> yes
[11:41] <support_> with other user as default
[11:41] <CatKiller> support_: Well then the userid might not match and you may not access it ok
[11:41] <CatKiller> support_: The problem sharing filesystems
[11:41] <CatKiller> support_: A solution is to simply create a common group on both nodes
[11:41] <CatKiller> a group that has the same group id
[11:42] <CatKiller> and add both users to that group
[11:42] <CatKiller> and change the mode to username:groupname
[11:42] <CatKiller> and make sure you also "chmod -R g+w /mnt/myHardDrive"
[11:42] <CatKiller> that will ensure that both users have access to it
[11:43] <support_> I think I tried chown... but I'll try again
[11:43] <support_> I also set 666 right recursively is it correct?
[11:43] <karab44> ubuntu does not mount my raid drive. It says there is no partition table. What partition table do I have to create as I want to format it later use for NTFS partition?
[11:44] <CatKiller> support_: It's overkill
[11:44] <karab44> there are some options like msdos
[11:44] <support_> ?
[11:44] <CatKiller> support_: This will solve your problem and is the right way to do
[11:44] <CatKiller> http://superuser.com/questions/175987/how-can-i-automatically-set-write-permissions-on-mounting-a-usb-drive-in-linux
[11:44] <wanttolovedjango> How do I can change my ssh password ?
[11:45] <support_> well It didn't, the problem I described occured after I made that
[11:45] <jrib> wanttolovedjango: what password do you mean exactly?
[11:45] <wanttolovedjango> I'm using github with ssh , and when do I want to update my files It say me to type password
[11:46] <wanttolovedjango> I want to change it
[11:46] <jrib> wanttolovedjango: you put a password on your ssh key?
[11:46] <wanttolovedjango> jrib: when I wanted to make my own key I got it a password
[11:47] <jrib> wanttolovedjango: ssh-keygen -f yourkey -p
[11:47] <wanttolovedjango> jrib: thanks
[11:50] <peho> hi
[11:50] <peho> how can I use git on 999 port
[11:50] <peho> with ssh
[11:51] <nemo> So.  I have an ubuntu machine that is tellin me /dev/sda1 (root partition) will be checked for errors on next reboot.  So I reboot.
[11:51] <jrib> peho:  ssh://[user@]host.xz[:port]/path/to/repo.git/
[11:51] <nemo> Message shows up again.  I reboot again.  Ditto.  I touch /forcefsck and reboot again.  Forcefsck is removed indicating fsck happened, but message still appears.
[11:51] <nemo> How to get it to shut up?
[11:52] <wanttolovedjango> How do I can use ssh-agent ?
[11:52] <jrib> nemo: check the various relevant values with tune2fs
[11:54] <nemo> jrib: Filesystem state:         clean  Last checked:             Thu Aug 29 07:45:21 2013 Check interval:           15552000 (6 months)
[11:54] <nemo> jrib: sooo. yeah :-p
[11:54] <jrib> nemo: I don't know offhand what causes that message in ubuntu
[11:55] <oussama> :)
[11:56] <ServerTech> How can I set up a dual boot between ubuntu (13.04) and Windows 7? Both are already installed on one HDD on different partitions (not Wubi). Windows 7 seems to start up directly on its own.
[11:57] <blazemore> !grub | ServerTech
[11:57] <ServerTech> Thanks blazemore, completely forgot about this
[12:00] <nemo> jrib: I'm guessing /etc/update-motd.d/98-fsck-at-reboot ...
[12:01] <jrib> nemo: you're getting a message in terminal or gui/
[12:01] <nemo> which calls /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-fsck-at-reboot  which returns that text
[12:01] <nemo> jrib: motd
[12:01] <aryans> firefox only runs as superuser
[12:01] <nemo> that is, in /etc/motd
[12:01] <peho> jrib: I try it but get follow error error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database ./objects
[12:01] <CountryfiedLinux> Can netbook remix theme be installed on Ubuntu if I'm using Mate? I understand Mate is a Gnome 2 fork.
[12:02] <bazhang> !une
[12:02] <jrib> peho: "try" what exactly?
[12:02] <nemo> jrib: I'm guessing that script is buggy
[12:02] <jrib> nemo: are you alright reading through the script or want some suggestions?
[12:02] <CountryfiedLinux> bazhang, can it be installed anyway? I know its not updated
[12:03] <aryans> ping  only runs as superuser on ubuntu
[12:03] <blazemore> CountryfiedLinux: Nothing stopping you, but it's not supported and doesn't get updates
[12:03] <bazhang> CountryfiedLinux, its no longer there
[12:03] <nemo> jrib: I'm ok I think
[12:03] <peho> jrib: git remote add origin ssh://[user@]host.xz[:port]/path/to/repo.git/
[12:03] <nemo> jrib: looks like the key issue is their last check was about an hour ago
[12:03] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks
[12:03] <peho> git push origin master
[12:04] <nemo> jrib: if you reboot within an hour after the last check, you'll get the nag message
[12:04] <nemo> and keep getting it until an hour later
[12:04] <nemo> kind of annoying I must say
[12:04] <jrib> peho: you need to replace [user], etc. with your own values
[12:04] <nemo> you'd think they could check uptime
[12:05] <peho> jrib: I replace it my values (user, path , server)
[12:05] <peho> but when push I get this error
[12:06] <peho> maybe permission on the server in not ok
[12:06] <jrib> peho: can you do a fresh clone without issues?
[12:06] <nemo> jrib: oh well. thanks for interest. looks like just ubuntu being silly again. seeya :)
[12:06] <support_> CatKiller: changed to 777 and used chown, now it works on different PC-c without sudo, but all of them have support as the sudo user, hope it'll work on my home PC)
[12:06] <support_> thanks
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> support_  careful with 777, anyone could change anything at any time, even lock you out
[12:07] <peho> jrid: Yes I do. I receive warning: You appear to have cloned an empty repository.
[12:08] <peho> it it ok, because repo is empty
[12:08] <support_> MonkeyDust: well, it's an external hdd running mostly on home pc
[12:10] <jrib> peho: what do you do next
[12:12] <aryans> ping only works from superuser, can anyone help
[12:13] <support_> CatKiller: i think 666 didn't work cause execution flag for folder means entering them as well.
[12:13] <peho> jrid: i add file: git add index.php
[12:13] <peho> after that I commit: git commit -m 'added index.php'
[12:14] <peho> then push: git push
[12:14] <peho> and I take fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[12:15] <jrib> peho: I thought you got some permission issue?  Did you check permissions for the user you ssh with on the remote git repository?
[12:19] <Hammerhead2011-S> When my server boots, the interfaces are not up. The only interface listed in the ifconfig is lo. I can manually up the interfaces and add IP info but I realy don't want to do this every time the server boots.
[12:20] <Hammerhead2011-S> any ideas why this would be happening?
[12:20] <Adrellias> خ ̷̴̐خ
[12:20] <peho> jrib: how to check permission?
[12:22] <jrib> !permissions | peho
[12:22] <jrib> peho: ls -ld file
[12:24] <Super8> Hi there, I have downloaded ubuntu 12.10 but how can I install it directly from my windows? I have tried to boot from cd, but disk partition is taking more than an hour and it doesnt work.
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> Super8  can you load the live cd?
[12:26] <Super8> Yes I can load it, and i can use it as a trial, but when it comes to installing it along side windows, it takes forever to resize the partition.
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Super8, what version of windows?
[12:26] <peho> jrib: thanks I fix it, group of repo dir was root, adn not git user group
[12:26] <Super8> I tried to use bootable usb, but my bios is not recognizing it.
[12:26] <Super8> cfhowlett I have windows7 32bit.
[12:26] <jrib> peho: cool
[12:26] <peho> how can I attach multiple users to that repo
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Super8, what's your ram situation?
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> Super8  forget windows, you don't need it to run ubuntu
[12:27] <jrib> peho: personally, I just have a "git" user and then everyone uses that user (you can add multiple ssh keys to it's authorized_keys file.  See git-scm book for more complicated setups
[12:27] <Super8> cfhowlett 6GB of ram, its running just fine.
[12:27] <jrib> peho: when people make commits, they still sign with their own name, they just use the "git" user on the system to push
[12:28] <cfhowlett> Super8, ?  and your HDD?
[12:29] <Super8> C: 547GB free of 576 - F: 20GB free of 20GB (I made it for ubuntu)
[12:30] <cfhowlett> Super8, I suggest you go into windows and run the file cleaner then defrag.  THEN run ubuntu.  defrag should speed up repartitioning
[12:30] <Super8> I tried to install it on F which is sda3, but while installing it says "Starting up the partitioner" and it freezes.
[12:30] <Super8> cfhowlett How to do that?
[12:30] <cfhowlett> Super8, THERE it is.  How many partitions have you GOT on that thing?
[12:30] <peho> jrib: ok, and how can I track changes from who is?
[12:30] <ServerTech> Is there a way to disable ubuntu asking for authentication everytime, like when you install a package?
[12:31] <Super8> Only 2 partitions. C and F.
[12:31] <cfhowlett> Super8, and "F" was created in windows, right?
[12:31] <peho> jrid: please excuse me, but I migrate from svn
[12:31] <Super8> cfhowlett Yes.
[12:31] <Super8> I tried to create it from live cd. but it took alot of time and didnt succeed
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Super8,  ?  "didn't succeed"?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> Super8  ubuntu does not use C, D, E, F
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> Super8  in ubuntu it's like /dev/sda1, sda2 etc
[12:32] <Super8> Super8 It kept saying "Starting up the partitioner"
[12:32] <Super8> And nothing happens
[12:33] <gp5st> is GNU DAP in any repos? I can't find it. http://www.gnu.org/software/dap (I'm not adverse to compiling it, but would prefer a repo version)
[12:33] <cfhowlett> Super8, not normal behavior, but I'm concerned.  you DID md5sum to verify the ISO?
[12:33] <Slart> ServerTech: yes, there are ways.. you can check how sudo works and configure it so that certain commands can be run without entering password
[12:33] <Slart> !sudo | ServerTech
[12:33] <Super8> cfhowlett No idea whats that.
[12:33] <Ascavasaion> lspci gives me VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller as my graphics card.  I am trying to run Google Earth but it tells me that I do not have "3D accelerator card with shader support".  HOw do I enable those please?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|Super8, it's a way to verify the integrity of the downloaded ubuntu ISO
[12:35] <Super8> The thing is, Linuxmint runs well and install with no problems
[12:35] <Ascavasaion> lspci gives me VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller as my graphics card.  I am trying to run Google Earth but it tells me that I do not have "3D accelerator card with shader support".  HOw do I enable those please?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Super8, which leads me to suspect you've got bad media.  Easily tested.
[12:37] <Super8> What do u mean by bad media?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Super8, corrupted downloads do happen
[12:38] <Super8> cfhowlett I deleted windows and installed ubuntu it worked just fine.
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Super8, ??? So it's fixed now?  Nice.
[12:38] <Super8> But when am trying to install ubuntu on a specific hard drive created on windows. it does not work
[12:39] <cfhowlett> Super8, so ... don't install on partitions created in windows.
[12:39] <home555> i need help
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !details|home555,
[12:39] <Super8> If i completely removed my win7, and installed ubuntu. Would i be able to install win7 along side ubuntu?
[12:40] <home555> burn xununtu 13.4 to usb
[12:40] <home555> ???
[12:40] <cfhowlett> Super8, you don't need to remove windows.  I'd suggest you delete the partitions you created with windows and then partition the freed space with ubuntu
[12:41] <g105b> I really have the urge to LMGTFY home555
[12:41] <home555> ?
[12:41] <home555> ??
[12:41] <cfhowlett> home555, STATE YOUR ISSUE.  with details.
[12:41] <Pici> !usb | home555
[12:41] <Super8> cfhowlett I already tried that, it keeps on saying "Starting up the partitioner" for a long time
[12:41] <cfhowlett> Super8, did you verify your iso?
[12:41] <g105b> It still surprises me that people can learn how to connect to IRC before they learn how to Google something.
[12:42] <Super8> Yes
[12:42] <chris5000> lol
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !help|chris5000,
[12:42] <cfhowlett> chris5000, sorry. wrong bot
[12:42] <chris5000> :/
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !helpful
[12:43] <home555> unebooting burn version 11.10
[12:43] <home555> live
[12:43] <home555> ((
[12:43] <home555> 13.4???
[12:43] <Super8> Yes I verfied it cfhowlett
[12:43] <cfhowlett> Super8, deleting OS is a drastic step and should be avoided.  reboot and run the check disk for integrity function.
[12:43] <cfhowlett> home555, ubuntu 11.10 is dead and end of life.  Use a supported version.
[12:44] <Super8> I think bootable usb might be the solution but my bios is not recognizing any bootable usb
[12:44] <home555> mmm
[12:44] <home555> bad
[12:44] <chris5000> Super8: you have to set it to boot from usb in the boot order menu
[12:44] <cfhowlett> Super8, corrupted cd burns happen too.  thus you run the check to verify things
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Super8  during boot, press F12 or so, to get the boot order menu, select flash/usb
[12:46] <Super8> cfhowlett How come its corrupted and when i decided to delete win7 and install ubuntu it worked just fine?
[12:46] <peho> jrib: thanks I understand perpose, git config add user data
[12:46] <Super8> MonkeyDust what I saw there is the HDD, DVD drive and LAN
[12:46] <cfhowlett> Super8, you JUST told us it wouldn't partition.  that's not "worked just fine".
[12:47] <Super8> cfhowlett When i installed it, I installed it on ALL THE HDD.
[12:47] <Super8> But when it gets to installing ubuntu + win7, it doesnt work.
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Super8, color me confused.
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Super8, have you installed ubuntu to your HDD?
[12:47] <Super8> Ubuntu by it self works just fine, i have also tried it on another computer.
[12:48] <cfhowlett> Super8, ???? so ... what is it you're having trouble with?
[12:48] <Super8> Argh..
[12:48] <Super8> When i get to install Ubuntu on an empty HDD (No windows), it works FINE.
[12:48] <Super8> But since windows is currently installed on my HDD, i intend to install ubuntu along side and its not working.
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> Super8: Which version of Windows?
[12:49] <Super8> Windows 7 32 bit.
[12:50] <ActionPa1snip> Super8: resize your NTFS using Windows, then install to the unpartitioned space
[12:50] <cfhowlett> Super8, and kill those extra windows created partitions.
[12:50] <Super8> ActionPa1snip i tried that already, not working
[12:50] <Super8> Wait let me try it again then.
[12:50] <ActionPa1snip> Super8: how do you mean 'not working', saying 'not working' tells us near zero
[12:50] <Super8> Do i have to install swap area?
[12:51] <ActionPa1snip> Super8: i suggest you do
[12:51] <Super8> Okay, ill try that and capture the screen, be back in a bit
[12:51] <Super8> thanks
[12:51] <ActionPa1snip> Super8: also chkdsk your NTFS to ensure its ok
[12:51] <Super8> how
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Super8, run a terminal in windows.  type in chkdsk.  it'll likely state "can't do it now, will do so on reboot."
[12:53] <Super8> Access Denied as you do not have sufficient privileges.
[12:53] <Super8> You have to invoke this utility running in elevated mode.
[12:53] <cfhowlett> Super8, you need to use your windows admin account or password.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:53] <chris5000> or right click on cmd and select "run as administrator"
[12:54] <Super8> okay
[12:55] <Super8> 0 bad files records
[12:55] <Super8> 0KB in bad sectors
[12:55] <Super8> let me try to boot the cd again, wait.
[12:56] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hi cfhowlett
[12:58] <ActionPa1snip> surfdue: right click computer manager -> run as admin
[13:08] <ixio2> anyone know how to setfacl recursively?
[13:10] <ixio2> nm
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> ixio2: http://linux.die.net/man/1/setfacl
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> ixio2: --recursive   or   -R
[13:13] <user258467> How do I display my desktop icons ?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> ixio2: its in the man page.....
[13:13] <JoBArTe_Skuld> anyone here?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> ixio2: does:   man setfacl   not show a man page to you?
[13:13] <JoBArTe_Skuld> is allowed to questions here?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> JoBArTe_Skuld: many :)
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> JoBArTe_Skuld: about ubuntu support, yes
[13:13] <cfhowlett> JoBArTe_Skuld, ask your questions
[13:13] <JoBArTe_Skuld> thanks
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> user258467  with unity-tweak-tool or with dconf-editor
[13:14] <user258467> MonkeyDust, thx
[13:14] <JoBArTe_Skuld> im trying to compile one serial driver here, but on make its exit because linux/mca.h not found
[13:14] <JoBArTe_Skuld> linux-source dont have this file?
[13:14] <jhon1> hello!
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> JoBArTe_Skuld: use http://packages.ubuntu.com   and you can seach for the filename and it will show the package name (if it exists)
[13:15] <jhon1> I am from colombia in south america
[13:15] <JoBArTe_Skuld> another question \o\
[13:15] <jhon1> I have one problem with my compuer
[13:15] <JoBArTe_Skuld> is possible to measure a bandwith used on server by domain on a ethernet or another option?
[13:16] <clue_h> jhon1, whats up with it
[13:17] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [ActionPa1snip]: this linux/mca.h is one include on a driver file.c
[13:18] <JoBArTe_Skuld> i installed linux-source, but no resolve :(
[13:18] <bing0719> good night！
[13:18] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [bing0719]: good :)
[13:18] <jhon1> I do not know to install packages tar.bz2
[13:18] <jhon1> this is done?
[13:21] <jhon1> hello! who you speaks spanish? please
[13:22] <Pici> !es | jhon1
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> jhon1  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[13:22] <jhon1> muchas gracias
[13:22] <mork> hay muchos canales espanoles
[13:23] <jhon1> thank you very much
[13:23] <Pici> np :)
[13:23] <rob_> hi, im trying to get an upstart job to log to logger but whatever i try it doesnt seem to work, if i run the same command at the console its fine
[13:25] <harris> hey can i use ubuntu to install cynagenmod on my android phone
[13:26] <cfhowlett> harris, ask in #nexus4 or #android for the procedure
[13:35] <ikillcypher> hello was wondering how do I open
[13:35] <ikillcypher> Open ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[13:35] <ikillcypher> really a bash noob
[13:35] <ActionPa1snip> rob_: could add the command (backgrouded) in /etc/rc.local   until you get a proper fix
[13:35] <jhon1_> hello!
[13:35] <ActionPa1snip> !away > CiscOH|Away
[13:37] <ikillcypher> :( ?
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> ikillcypher: its a text file...use your favourite editor
[13:38] <ikillcypher> gedit display nothing
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> ikillcypher: is the file present?
[13:38] <wanttolovedjango> How do i can screen video capture on ubuntu ?
[13:38] <C_freeman> hello
[13:39] <ActionPa1snip> wanttolovedjango: press print screen key...just like in Windows
[13:39] <ChogyDan> !screencast | wanttolovedjango
[13:39] <ActionPa1snip> wanttolovedjango: same as ANY OS
[13:39] <wanttolovedjango> ActionPa1snip : screen cast , no screen shot
[13:40] <majornick> ubuntu 13.04 here. have a HUGE problem with audacity and rythm box. first of all. why does rythm box run inthe back ground with no way to see what i s going on is shuttleworth iuhgh ?
[13:40] <majornick> *high on drugs?
[13:40] <ActionPa1snip> wanttolovedjango: apologies
[13:40] <ActionPa1snip> wanttolovedjango: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/record-screen-linux
[13:40] <majornick> is shuttleworth high on drugs?
[13:40] <ChogyDan> majornick: don't troll
[13:40] <majornick> how what is rythmbox doing
[13:40] <ikillcypher> ActionPa1snip,
[13:40] <ikillcypher> ikillcypher@ikillcypher:~/.ssh$ ls
[13:40] <ikillcypher> id_dsa  id_dsa.pub  known_hosts
[13:40] <cfhowlett> majornick, if you want actual help, considering reformulating your questions
[13:40] <majornick> sorry
[13:40] <majornick> am drunk
[13:41] <cfhowlett> majornick, come back when sober.  bye
[13:41] <wanttolovedjango> Is there anything with command line that gets the end of what screen makes
[13:41] <wanttolovedjango> we say it from what pixel to which pixel record it
[13:41] <ChogyDan> majornick: you can't hit the x to close rhythmbox, you have to use the menu
[13:42] <majornick> ChogyDan: what now?
[13:42] <ikillcypher> hello anyone can tell me how to open id_dsa.pub inside a .ssh
[13:42] <ikillcypher> Im not good with bash
[13:42] <ActionPa1snip> ikillcypher: gedit ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub
[13:42] <majornick> ChogyDan: what aout when i cant seee anything? its just the audio palying?
[13:43] <ChogyDan> majornick: open it back up through the sound icon (indicator)
[13:43] <majornick> oh i got it. i have to lock it to the launcher so i can close it
[13:43] <majornick> ChogyDan: man i hate rythmbox man i want oto elevate past this but audacity has been givcing me some major headaches
[13:45] <majornick> i keep trying to save these files to my folders from audacity through the exprt to mp3 but i have humanly malfunctioned due to obvious american alcoholism malufucntion and this dude i w right i need to try agian tomorrrow i love YOU all Ubuntu friends soorryy
[13:51] <b0x> hi, i installed ubuntu 13.04 a few weeks ago and its been absolutely awesome. HOWEVER! I suspended ubuntu, took my laptop to the office, and its not booting correctly. I get to a blank desktop, with no unity. I'm able to run terminal and other things via it. I tried sudo apt-get update and it didnt pickup anything unusual. ALso tried booting with recovery options and low graphics mode
[13:52] <b0x> my indicators seem to load also.. psensor appears, the num/caps lock toggle appears, but there is no actual global menu bar
[13:52] <b0x> any ideas? i'm booted to windows now (dual boot)
[13:52] <BluesKaj> b0x, make sure your swap file is as large as your RAM for suspend
[13:53] <b0x> :/ how can i do that .. but it shouldnt matter now right? i've rebooted it from within this working desktop (power button prompts shutdown/suspend/etc but not in normal style
[13:54] <b0x> it initially popped up with an error about it trying to resume (sent) but now nothing
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: if you log in as another user, is it the same?
[13:54] <b0x> I've got no other users.. Guest session?
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: yes guest
[13:55] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: or make a fresh user
[13:55] <b0x> any other ideas, i'll have to reboot to try
[13:56] <clue_h> i cant remember where to place allow-guest=False? where the conf file to edit it
[13:56] <clue_h> is*
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> clue_h: lightdm.conf
[13:56] <clue_h> ActionPa1snip, thank you
[13:57] <marianne> hi... total hardware upgrade complete to 12.04.3... I don't have sound with either the onboard (realteck ALC887) or the PCI (soundblaster) speakers all work fine and I have double checked the connections...help
[13:57] <marianne> both the onboard and PCI support 5.1
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> marianne: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds and reboot
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> marianne  in a terminal, type alsamixer -- if you see mm,go there and press m
[14:00] <ncopa> hi
[14:01] <ncopa> in installed linux mint xfce yesterday on wifes netbook and it killed the windows dualboot
[14:01] <ncopa> it said something about <UUID> not foud at boot
[14:01] <marianne> ActionPalsnip: Directory not empty
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> ncopa  better ask in mint support
[14:01] <ncopa> i compared with blkid and grub.cfg and they differed
[14:02] <ncopa> i have reinstalled with ubuntu now
[14:02] <ncopa> (she didnt like mint)
[14:02] <BluesKaj> if pulseaudio is removed there won't be sound on websites , pulse links alsa to flash on most sites like youtube etc
[14:02] <ncopa> any ideas how to fix the dualboot again?
[14:02] <ncopa> windows 7 is on sda1
[14:03] <marianne> MonkeyDust: do I need to reboot or anything?
[14:04] <ChogyDan> ncopa: is dual boot broken after you reinstalled ubuntu?  That wasn't clear
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> marianne  no, simply open a terminal window and type alsamixer
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> marianne  reboot wouldnt harm, tho
[14:05] <marianne> MonkeyDust:I did that > hightlighted MM ...BRB reboot then
[14:05] <gjung> can somebody help me i become after installatin a Kernel Panik
[14:05] <ncopa> ChogyDan: it broke after installing mint xfce. ubuntu installer did not find it. i need to fix it from ubuntu now
[14:05] <ncopa> i have backup of old grub.cfg
[14:06] <gjung> i use 13.04 64bit
[14:06] <ChogyDan> ncopa: so your windows 7 install isn't being located when you update-grub?
[14:07] <ncopa> should i run update-grub2 or update-grub?
[14:07] <ChogyDan> ncopa: it may not matter
[14:08] <ncopa> ChogyDan: correct. windows was not run with update-grub2
[14:08] <ncopa> i can retry
[14:08] <ChogyDan> ncopa: pastebin output
[14:09] <ncopa> it finds linux images and initrd, the windows recovery on sda2 but not sda1
[14:09] <ncopa> ok. i'll paste. its on other computer. gimme a sec
[14:10] <ncopa> the machine has only 1G ram so its slow..
[14:10] <ncopa> (which is is why let her try mint-xfce but she didnt like it...)
[14:12] <ncopa> ChogyDan: https://dpaste.de/WtsDy/
[14:12] <gjung>  Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found Try passing init= option to kernel somebody can help me
[14:12] <manik_> Hello.
[14:13] <marianne> MonkeyDust: still nothing
[14:14] <Billys> where are you from guys ?
[14:15] <Guest88675> taiwan
[14:15] <ChogyDan> ncopa: I would try the advice from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22698/update-grub2-not-finding-windows7-partition
[14:15] <majornick> im dead in the water with rythm box and audacity .. i got major malufunctions here, damn.
[14:16] <manik_> Can anybody why does the OS keep asking for the WiFi password even though I am putting its correct password?
[14:16] <majornick> its like metldown on 8gb ram total metldown
[14:16] <ncopa> ChogyDan: ok i'll try. thanks!
[14:17] <majornick> im going to get banned from u bntu help ? oh lord i love the Queen and manchester untied lpolease
[14:17] <majornick> bbl ndrunk
[14:19] <clue_h> wow.
[14:24] <p1l0t> Wow quiet
[14:24] <clue_h> has anyone configured their firewall to adapt to openvpn?
[14:25] <clue_h> i was curious about what the outbound rule set was or if there is a page on this somewhere
[14:25] <marianne> In AlsaMixer I can see my PCI card, but when I select it, it's not saving the value
[14:26] <przemek> hello support one my client ask me to install debian in efi boot mode,  do you know anything about efi boot ? whats the point using this mode? thank yo
[14:26] <OerHeks> !uefi | przemek
[14:27] <BluesKaj> marianne, what's your audio chip in alsamixer ?
[14:27] <przemek> ubottu:  so no need to instal efi boot debian if mainboard not support efi?
[14:27] <przemek> ubottu: :)
[14:28] <przemek> OerHeks: :)
[14:28] <przemek> thx dude
[14:28] <przemek> OerHeks:  so no need to instal efi boot debian if mainboard not support efi?
[14:28] <marianne> BluesKaj: DEfault onboard is Realtek ALC887-VD ...the one I want is PCI and it is Creative CA0132
[14:28] <ActionPa1snip> przemek: debian isnt supported here
[14:28] <b0x> back again, tried guest user and new user
[14:28] <ActionPa1snip> przemek: ask in #debian
[14:29] <b0x> no good
[14:29] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: then its not your user's config
[14:29] <OerHeks> przemek, if your mainbord does not support EFI, why bother?
[14:29] <przemek> debian always sleep my friend :)
[14:29] <BluesKaj> marianne, did you you set the pci card as default in the bios ?
[14:29] <ActionPa1snip> przemek: doesnt mean its supported here
[14:29] <ActionPa1snip> marianne: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[14:30] <marianne> BluesKaj: no i didn't
[14:30] <ncopa> ok. i tried add the menuentry manually: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-prober/+bug/713899 but it now says: "BOOTMGR is missing"
[14:30] <b0x> ActionPa1snip: ok, so where do i go from here?
[14:30] <ActionPa1snip> marianne: I suggest you only use one sound card, keep it simple. Either use pci and disable the onboar, or just use the onboard
[14:30] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: does the system have a make and model?
[14:30] <b0x> oh
[14:31] <b0x> i tried running unity via the command line
[14:31] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: try:  unity --replace
[14:31] <b0x> right
[14:31] <b0x> it threw an error about a window manager already in use
[14:31] <marianne> ActionPalsnip: going to bios to fix it
[14:31] <b0x> but without the --replace switch
[14:31] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: try:  compiz --replace
[14:31] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: you need to use the replace switch
[14:32] <b0x> ok
[14:32] <b0x> will give it another go
[14:32] <b0x> dive, dive, dive....
[14:34] <ncopa> looks like i need to fix it from windows... unfortunally, the recovery only allows me to wipe disk to factory defaults
[14:34] <ncopa> i dunnot want to it all again :-(
[14:35] <ChogyDan> ncopa: did you try deleting the /boot directory? or wahtever?
[14:35] <ncopa> there was no /boot
[14:36] <ncopa> i think it is strange that the UUID of sda1 changed. i still have the old grub.cfg
[14:36] <ncopa> the uuid does not match
[14:37] <ActionPa1snip> ncopa: you can run:  sudo blkid    and see the IDs, then compare
[14:37] <ncopa> ActionPa1snip: thats what i did. the uuid in old grub.cfg does not mach with the uuid from blkid
[14:38] <ActionPa1snip> ncopa: as long as its what is in the standing grub config, its fine
[14:39] <ncopa> ActionPa1snip: nope. I get "BOOTMGR is missing"
[14:39] <ActionPa1snip> ncopa: boot to live cd and use the omgubuntu guide:   sticking it to grub
[14:40] <ncopa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair has a "Repair windows boot files" at the end
[14:40] <kenshiro> Hi, I would like to know if it's safe to upgrade Ubuntu 12.04 to 13.04 hardware enablement stack. Wiki page is not upgraded, 13.04 LTS appears as "Proposed":   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[14:41] <ActionPa1snip> kenshiro: you'll need to upgrade to 12.10 first
[14:41] <ActionPa1snip> kenshiro: 13.04 is only supported til January 2014 so you will need to upgrade to 13.10 when it comes shortly after release
[14:41] <kenshiro> actionpa1snip But I want to upgrade only the hardware enablemenet stack (kernel, xwindows), not upgrade distro
[14:42] <kenshiro> actionpa1snip I want to upgrade to 12.04.3
[14:42] <feeshon> Hello, how can I hash my password for .smbcredentials file?
[14:42] <ActionPa1snip> kenshiro: do you have 12.04 installed now?
[14:42] <kenshiro> actionpa1snip, yes the original stack
[14:43] <ActionPa1snip> kenshiro: then run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:43] <ActionPa1snip> kenshiro: you will then have 12.04.3
[14:43] <kenshiro> actionpa1snip, ok I will try, thank you ! :-)
[14:43] <ActionPa1snip> kenshiro: the minor releases just make installing nicer
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> kenshiro: as it is supported 5 years, the packages get old
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> kenshiro: so they release intermediate releases with newer packages in the default, rather than install then having to update the entire OS
[14:45] <kenshiro> actionpa1snip I understand, thank you ! :-)
[14:45] <feeshon> Hello, how can I hash my password for .smbcredentials file?
[14:46] <ActionPa1snip> kel39: np :)
[14:47] <b0x> no good.. got some more info.
[14:50] <b0xa> errors: opengl not loaded, compix (opengl) fatal: glxQueryExtensionString is NULL for screen 0, xlib: extension - gLX missing on display "0:0"
[14:50] <b0xa> i did recall something though.. a few days ago,. or more i wanted to install the nvidia drivers so i could get hdmi output
[14:51] <ActionPa1snip> b0xa: if you install xfce4 and log off, then log in to the XFCE session. Is it ok?
[14:51] <b0xa> i only got as far as installing the nvidia package from apt-get
[14:51] <b0xa> this could be the first full reboot since :/
[14:51] <b0xa> XFCE ?
[14:52] <b0xa> sudo apt-get install xfce4 ?
[14:53] <SergeyPenkin> If a new version of software is released what influences how quick this new version would be in Ubuntu repositories?
[14:54] <ActionPa1snip> b0xa: yes
[14:54] <Almindor> is there a way to do dist-upgrade but mark something as blacklisted?
[14:54] <ActionPa1snip> b0xa: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[14:54] <ActionPa1snip> !pin | Almindor
[14:55] <Almindor> python2.7-minimal crashes (some script error) for me on dist-upgrade upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04
[14:55] <Almindor> and I don't need python or it's children atm.
[14:55] <b0xa> ActionPa1snip: found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2124823
[14:55] <visualise> Almindor, you may only dist-upgrade one version at a time I believe
[14:56] <ActionPa1snip> visualise: LTS to LTS is supported
[14:56] <Almindor> visualise: LTS
[14:56] <Almindor> it's just 10.04 -> 12.04 is bugged
[14:56] <visualise> ActionPa1snip, nu-uh
[14:56] <Almindor> it fails, there's a manual workaround, but it always wants to install python for me even if I purged it from my current version
[14:56] <visualise> oh, apt hell. gotcha :)
[14:57] <ActionPa1snip> visualise: you upgrade to the next release, or LTS to LTS
[14:57] <Almindor> and I don't need that damn thing :D
[14:57] <g0twig> grub from ubuntu 12.04.3 does not support adding Fedora 20 to the bootlist, what can I do??
[14:57] <reveal> anyone have problems with vim after a clean install not recognizing your terminal type and getting AB CD for arrow keys and no delete
[14:57] <Almindor> I already got the base-system upgraded to 12.04 (kernel and the base packages) but it fails on a script error (actual python error) while trying the python install, that's why I want to ignore it
[14:58] <Almindor> but pinning only pins it at the old version, not sure if that'll help
[14:58] <reveal> does it require a specific python version
[14:58] <ActionPa1snip> visualise: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades  "You can directly upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (.Precise Pangolin.) from Ubuntu 11.10 (.Oneiric Ocelot.) or 10.04 LTS (.Lucid Lynx.)."
[14:58] <gordonjcp> Almindor: what *exactly* is the error?
[14:58] <visualise> ActionPa1snip, cool beans
[14:58] <ActionPa1snip> visualise: so YES, very supported and advised
[14:59] <gordonjcp> I never upgrade between versions
[14:59] <gordonjcp> never really had that work successfully
[14:59] <visualise> ActionPa1snip, apparentlly not so supported =p
[14:59] <ActionPa1snip> visualise: so why the "15:56 < visualise> ActionPa1snip, nu-uh" ?
[14:59] <Almindor> gordonjcp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6040583/
[14:59] <visualise> ActionPa1snip, I didn't know of LTS > LTS
[14:59] <visualise> but is good to hear!
[15:00] <ActionPa1snip> visualise: then why say nu-uh to something, when you didn't know about it?
[15:00] <visualise> ActionPa1snip, an mistake
[15:00] <Almindor> I only found a german poster on some forums with same error but no replies
[15:00] <Almindor> but the infuriating thing is, I don't NEED python on this machine atm.
[15:00] <ActionPa1snip> visualise: if you aren't quite sure about something, you can't advise.
[15:00] <Almindor> it's just dist-upgrade wants to add all the bull* on top
[15:01] <visualise> ActionPa1snip, indeed
[15:01] <gordonjcp> Almindor: I think you pretty much require python
[15:01] <gordonjcp> Almindor: I found the same post in German
[15:01]  * OerHeks agrees with gordonjcp 
[15:02] <b0xa> ActionPa1snip: going to try these: FYI: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285779/after-upgrading-to-13-04-unity-interface-is-not-showing
[15:02] <Almindor> it's just some of the meta-packages require it, the ubuntu tools
[15:02] <Almindor> the base system can run nicely without
[15:02] <Almindor> this is a server I'm talking about not desktop
[15:02] <reveal> so install then downgrade it
[15:04] <k3ys3rsoz3> hello ubuntu
[15:08] <ActionPa1snip> !away | dduffey_afk
[15:09] <d3vZer0> mensch gibts denn nicht mal _irgendwo_ nen vernuenftigen _deutschen_ linux hilfe chan?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> !de | d3vZer0
[15:09] <d3vZer0> danke!
[15:09] <d3vZer0> ;)
[15:09] <BluesKaj> bitte
[15:13] <BIGTONE> My friend told me not 2 upgrade from 12.04, what do the chat line say?
[15:16] <OerHeks> BIGTONE, your friend might be right, ask him why
[15:16] <Siecje> when I press up in the terminal I don't see the previous command
[15:18] <codephobic> hi
[15:18] <karab44> hello
[15:19] <mitch-_> hi
[15:20] <codephobic> are there any hardware channels on irc? for some reason ubuntu 13.04 is stressing my FX4100/Radeon HD6670/8GB system than I could have anticipated. It's especially bad when I run VirtualBox and boot up windows 7 (2 cores limited to a max of 80% cpu usage)...
[15:20] <tux_1> Is there there anything I need to setup to use the talk and ytalk command?
[15:20] <codephobic> temps are spiking at near critical... very depressing situation to find myself in.
[15:21] <k3ys3rsoz3> ls
[15:23] <Siecje> pressing up and tab in the terminal do not work unity on 13.04
[15:24] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: did you install the proprietary video driver?
[15:25] <glumetu> hi how can i find out if i have 3d hardawre acceleration enabled?
[15:25] <ActionPa1snip> glumetu: run a game, use Compiz as WM
[15:26] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, yes
[15:28] <glumetu> ty i'll give it a try
[15:30] <ggolin> trying to set env for runit, looks like the variables are not set
[15:30] <ggolin> does anyone have exp with this?
[15:30] <ggolin> following the man page
[15:30] <codephobic> is there a known bug with virtualbox 4.2.16?
[15:31] <codephobic> it doesn't seem right that it should be stressing out my system when previous versions didn't ...
[15:31] <Felishia> is there a way to play a midi or nted file over a web browser? o.o
[15:32] <ggolin> Felishia, yeah its in 1997
[15:32] <Felishia> what do you mean?
[15:32] <ggolin> netscape had plugins for midi
[15:32] <AcidRain2012> why is php channel invite only? im logged in
[15:32] <Felishia> I know midis have been around since so much time ago
[15:33] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display | grep -i driver      what is output?
[15:33] <Felishia> netscape... uh ggolin I forgot to say that I also need the sheet to be there
[15:33] <Felishia> something like put nted in a webpage
[15:33] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: also, what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:33] <Inquisitive> help
[15:33] <Felishia> it must be interactive
[15:33] <Felishia> Inquisitive, :o
[15:33] <OerHeks> AcidRain2012, some channels need a registered account, ask in #freenode
[15:34] <Inquisitive> my audio keeps dying and it is not just VLC or youtube or my media player it is all of them
[15:34] <Inquisitive> but when I plug in my headphones it works...Why?
[15:34] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, "configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0"
[15:35] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: ok thats good, and the 2nd command
[15:35] <Felishia> Inquisitive, let me guess... >.> 13.04 with hda intel?
[15:35] <codephobic> and issue = "Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l"
[15:36] <codephobic> err, "cat /etc/issue": "Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l"
[15:36] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: all I can suggest is to try the xorg update ppa (less fresh more stable), or make an xorg.conf file
[15:36] <codephobic> never heard of issue before... is that a type of error log?
[15:36] <menoxz> I'm trying to add 1280x1024 resolution since its showing CRT0. But I'm stuck on the "1600 1696 1856 2112" what are the values for 1280x1024?
[15:36] <menoxz> or how do you calculate them
[15:38] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, is the ppa xorg more stable than the one that comes with 13.04?
[15:38] <Inquisitive> Felisha not sure just treat me like a noob not stupid just new only been using Ubuntu for a month or 2 sorry for the inexpierence...
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: the one in te official repos is tried and tested, but your kit may need newer
[15:39] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: have you tried a non-compositing session, like xfce?
[15:39] <codephobic> I'll try and make a config, but I'm mystified as to why my system has become less stable since upgrading the hardware and upgrading to 13.04 ...
[15:39] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, nope not tried using anything other than gnome 3 and unity
[15:40] <Inquisitive> I am familiar with terminal already though
[15:40] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: unity runs on top of gnome 3
[15:40] <codephobic> I actually upgraded my gfx card (I have an on-board radeon hd 3300) to a hd 6670 just so I wouldn't be left behind by the newer xorg ...
[15:40] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: install the xfce4 package, log off then try the XFCE session in the login screen
[15:41] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, I thought unity ran on a cut down version of gnome? I downloaded the full gnome 3 desktop and used that just to see if it was any better for general work than unity, but didn't get any joy
[15:42] <codephobic> k, just gonna download xfce...
[15:44] <Inquisitive> and how do I connect to a different IRC server /.server. or something?
[15:44] <starbuck> hi guys, I got a problem with samba on a debina server with an ubuntu 13.04 client and vlc... for some reason vlc doesn't like to read fiels from a sambashare, vlc crashes and becomes a zombie which can't be killed except logging out and back in
[15:45] <xatr0z> starbuck: does the samba has an username?
[15:45] <starbuck> xatr0z: waht do you mean?
[15:45] <xatr0z> i had an similar issue, and it had to do with vlc and gvfs
[15:45] <xatr0z> vlc didnt had the correct username/password somehow
[15:46] <starbuck> ok, what do i have to check / do?
[15:46] <beliveyourdream> hello
[15:46] <xatr0z> not exactly sure why but it DID seem to work with passwordless servers
[15:46] <beliveyourdream> i have a problem with one of my servers
[15:46] <beliveyourdream> i've updated  from 11.04 to 12.04 and now on every form submit the browser just hangs
[15:47] <beliveyourdream> i've checked logs on apache/php/mysql and my application logs but nothing to explaing the hang
[15:47] <xatr0z> starbuck: if you are currently just doubleclicking the file: try opening the smb:// link in vlc (with username password)
[15:48] <Sach> Using 12.04.  Was listening through my headphones, now suddenly I get no sound at all through the headset OR the laptop speakers. Help please?
[15:48] <beliveyourdream> any idea what could break from this dist upgrade ?
[15:48] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, I'm installing the full desktop of XFCE 4.10.
[15:50] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: yes, it doesnt use compositing, we can see if the temp is lower or same
[15:51] <codephobic> I'm getting high temps on the cpu while downloading.
[15:51] <chris5000> Sach: restart your computer? check the sound settings? re-start your browser or application?
[15:51] <codephobic> It's really strange, I don't have this issue with windows 7, nor did I experience it with ubuntu 12.10
[15:51] <Sach> chriss5000: just restarted the laptop, same result
[15:51] <xatr0z> starbuck: if that DOES work you could try googling because their should be a better solution... a workaround however would be to just mount the share instead of using gvfs
[15:52] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, I forgot something else... I get lots of "system problem" errors
[15:53] <codephobic> sometimes for apport, sometimes for other services/daemons ...
[15:53] <chris5000> Sach: check your sound settings, there are usually two meters you can adjust
[15:53] <starbuck> xatr0z: it doesn't work... i can start the file with doubleclick but if I enter the address by hand it doesn't do anything
[15:54] <Sach> chris5000: yes, both meters  are unmuted and have enough volume for me to hear...but nothing
[15:54] <xatr0z> starbuck: could you try starting it in the terminal with vlc -vvvv to see if it outputs anything useful before crashing ?
[15:54] <convoi> codephobic, which's your graphic-card?
[15:56] <starbuck> xatr0z:  open of `smb://t43p/download/The_Worlds_End.wmv' failed
[15:56] <codephobic> convoi, it's an ASUS ATI Radeon HD6670
[15:56] <Siecje> when I press up in the terminal I don't see the previous command
[15:56] <burg> hello. i am getting setfacl: opperation not permitted when i try: sudo setfacl -R -m u:ultra:rwx /projects/*
[15:57] <convoi> codephobic, edit your /etc/default/grub
[15:57] <sillyme> #join #aircrack-ng
[15:58] <sillyme> opps
[15:58] <reveal> convoi: grep ACL in your kernels .config file
[15:58] <convoi> codephobic, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" change to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force radeon.dpm=1"
[15:58] <chris5000> Sach: output of pulseaudio -D?
[15:59] <convoi> codephobic, and install Jupiter and choose Power Saving mode
[16:00] <codephobic> convoi, I'm just going to try out xfce first, need to give ActionPa1snip some feedback on temps in non-compiz desktop.
[16:01] <convoi> codephobic, sudo update-grub after edited grub
[16:01] <jonascj> when connecting to my newly installed ubuntu server 12.04 with vncviewer (tried it from both windows and ubuntu) I have a wrong keymap. I use a danish keyboard and my : is not where it should be for example. What could be wrong?
[16:02] <Sach> chris5000: http://pastebin.com/EzgRsdSK
[16:03] <RoyK> jonascj: which vncviewer is this?
[16:03] <chris5000> Sach: there's your problem
[16:03] <chris5000> Sach: sec
[16:03] <Inquisitive> so any help on my audio problem? it stops but the headphones work and yeah it was after my last batch of updates I installed now that I think about it
[16:04] <chris5000> Sach: kill the service and restart it
[16:04] <Sach> chris5000: the service?
[16:04] <chris5000> Sach: the pulseaudio daemon
[16:04] <Sach> chris5000: is there a command for that?
[16:04] <chris5000> Sach: pulseaudio --kill and then pulseaudio --start
[16:04] <chris5000> Sach: might need sudo
[16:04] <jonascj> RoyK: on ubuntu it's RealVNC (vncplayer) and on Windows it's the same, Real VNCPlayer
[16:05] <codephobic> hi
[16:05] <codephobic> just logged in to XFCE4
[16:05] <jonascj> RoyK: Do you think it is an issue witht he vnc client or is it an config issue on the ubuntu server?
[16:05] <codephobic> had a system crash - apport
[16:05] <ilovexbmc> please can someone help me out here, i just installed latest vsn of WUBI but my display is unusable - it looks like this: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B98pNjnjhJj0bk1TX25najlXREE/edit?usp=sharing i know that I have read a fix previously but cant find it anywhere now. please help!
[16:05] <RoyK> jonascj: not sure
[16:06] <Sach> chrisr5000: this is strange:  http://pastebin.com/QyiYQ4Yz
[16:06] <holstein> ilovexbmc: i would look for another graphics driver, if one is available for your hardware.. you can also try the normal installation cd live
[16:06] <Sach> chris5000: this is strange: http://pastebin.com/QyiYQ4Yz
[16:06] <cuddylier> Using FTP on SSH, how would I get a file from a remote FTP and put it in a directory I want to put it in on the local machine? When i do 'get [filename] it tries to download it to the same directory on my local machine.
[16:07] <ilovexbmc> holstein - Any ubuntu or ubuntu variant is the same :( and seeing as i cant even get in to it how would i change driver?
[16:07] <RoyK> Sach: perhaps sudo -i first?
[16:07] <Sach> RoyK: you mean as a command in and of itself?
[16:07] <holstein> ilovexbmc: you would "get into it" via tty.. or nomodeset before installation or now
[16:07] <gordonjcp> cuddylier: "lcd"
[16:07] <holstein> !nomodeset | ilovexbmc this is what i would try from a live CD
[16:08] <gordonjcp> cuddylier: but, avoid using ftp
[16:08] <cuddylier> I have to as it's a FTP server
[16:08] <holstein> !tty | ilovexbmc this is where i would go from the current installation to "fix" it
[16:08] <RoyK> Sach: sudo -i first and then kill/start
[16:08] <gordonjcp> cuddylier: sftp is fine, and if you've got sftp chances are you've got scp too ;-)
[16:08] <cuddylier> gordonjcp I'm transferring from a remote host I have no control over
[16:08] <gordonjcp> cuddylier: okay, then also assume it's been broken into and use a unique password for it that you use nowhere else
[16:09] <cuddylier> gordonjcp So do I type lcd [filename]?
[16:09] <codephobic> is anybody else experiencing frequent system crash errors with ubuntu 13.04? I keep getting apport-gtk related errors
[16:09] <RoyK> gordonjcp: I don't think I've ever seen scp not working if sftp works (except some strange cases with rssh)
[16:09] <Sach> RoyK: http://pastebin.com/8AhNFtiS
[16:09] <RoyK> Sach: perhaps it's running as your UID
[16:09] <ilovexbmc> thanks guys, im a bit of a linux noob so some of your help kind of goes right over my head but will see what i can manage
[16:09] <RoyK> if so, don't use sudo
[16:10] <cuddylier> When I try to use 'get [foldername]' it says  Cannot download non-regular file: /home/minecraft/multicraft/scripts/
[16:10] <mustmodify> is there some way to combine tail and ... grep maybe? so that I can get a wc -l between lines matching "^Started GET" ... so that I can basically see how many lines of logfile were generated for every web request in my development log?
[16:10] <feeshon> Does anyone know how to prune rsnapshots?
[16:10] <feeshon> Is there a built in function for this?
[16:11] <mustmodify> I would want it to work for tail -f ...
[16:11] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, so far the system seems to be no worse than under unity. temps climbed down to 53 deg C, but then that was true in unity too, just that they occasionally ramp up to 67-70 deg C.
[16:11] <Sach> RoyK: still no luck  :(
[16:12] <chris5000> Sach: try just typing alsamixer in the command line
[16:12] <cuddylier> Is it not possible to copy recursively then using the basic FTP client? Can I use scp if I have just a remote FTP server and not SFTP?
[16:13] <RoyK> chris5000: you don'd need an ftp server for neither scp, sftp or rsync
[16:13] <Sach> chris5000: I did already,  I see that speaker is MM.
[16:13] <RoyK> all of them run over ssh (that is, rsync can run over other protocols, but uses ssh by default)
[16:14] <chris5000> RoyK:  you tabbed the wrong guy
[16:14] <RoyK> oops
[16:14] <RoyK> cuddylier: that one was for you - my advice is to use rsync
[16:14] <cuddylier> RoyK Ah okay, is it similar then to the FTP commands?
[16:15] <RoyK> cuddylier: no, man rsync
[16:15] <cuddylier> What does 'man rsync' do?
[16:15] <chris5000> Sach: try force killing it, if you can't then purge it and reinstall the issue is clearly with that daemon
[16:16] <Sach> chris5000: try force killing what exactly?
[16:16] <codephobic> \quit
[16:17] <chris5000> Sach: pulseaudio
[16:18] <ActionPa1snip> Sach: killall pulseaudio
[16:18] <RoyK> Sach: or killall -9 pulseaudio if it's really stuck
[16:19] <Sach> chris5000, ActioPa1snip: Okay, I've killed it.  what next?
[16:19] <chris5000> Sach: restart it
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> Sach: it will come back up on it's own. Ubuntu is configured to restart pulseaudio if it dies
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> chris5000: ^
[16:20] <chris5000> ActionPa1snip: ah
[16:20] <tharkun> Godd $(date +%P) what would be the weapon of choice for an office irc server? Small number of users.
[16:21] <Sach> chris5000, Actionpa1snip: still no sound.  do I need to restart or something?
[16:21] <ironhalik> Is there a way to make certain display the default one for full screen opengl apps?
[16:22] <cuddylier> Where does rsync ask for a password?
[16:22] <karab44> is there a good program to cleanup system?
[16:22] <karab44> like temporary files, old/unused packages and crap?
[16:22] <chris5000> Sach: check if it's running currently with pulseaudio -D
[16:22] <Johnny_Linux> fslint
[16:22] <holstein> karab44: define "cleanup".. and, "good" is a matter of opinion.. if you mean, delete files, you can use a filemanager.. sudo apt-get auto-remove .etc
[16:23] <tmmunq> the old versions of libs that persist after an upgrade?
[16:23] <Sach> chriss5000: http://pastebin.com/iz9ijUUp
[16:23] <holstein> tharkun: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/irc-server.html is what i referred to years back.. the only issue i has was with folks connecting from the same "location"
[16:25] <holstein> Sach: for me, i'll restart, and try older kernels.. i'll try as another user.. i'll try with a live CD to see that the hardware is still "good".. i'll try looking at "aplay -l" to see that the hardware is present
[16:27] <cuddylier> Why does 'rsync -v -e ssh admin.214@b***.**.***.* /server.properties /' not work?
[16:27] <cuddylier>  rsync: link_stat "/server.properties" failed: No such file or directory (2)
[16:27] <cuddylier> But that file exists on that FTP..
[16:27] <cuddylier> In the root directory
[16:29] <suhas> where is the background image of the grub present in the file system???
[16:29] <RoyK> cuddylier: where is server.properties?
[16:29] <RoyK> cuddylier: oh, rsync and sftp and scp is, by default, rooted on the root dir, not the ftp server's root
[16:30] <cuddylier> RoyK In the main accessible directory of the remote FTP therefore the directory just should be /server.properties
[16:30] <cuddylier> I see..
[16:30] <cuddylier> So how do I specify that then?
[16:30] <RoyK> cuddylier: just use the full path
[16:30] <cuddylier> I see, I'll try that
[16:30] <RoyK> cuddylier: as in /path/to/ftp/root/filename
[16:33] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, I don't think I'm seeing any difference in temp/cpu usage with virtualbox 4.2.16 between unity and xfce...
[16:34] <Sach> chris5000: any suggestions?
[16:34] <karab44> holstein: this is not an answer
[16:34] <chris5000> Sach: hmm
[16:34] <chris5000> Sach: sec i'm at work lol
[16:34] <Sach> chris5000: oh, ok  :-p
[16:36] <cuddylier> RoyK Still didn't work, rsync -v -e ssh admin.214@***.**.***.* /home/minecraft/multicraft/servers/server214/server.properties /
[16:36] <cuddylier> That directory exists on the remote machine
[16:36] <Sach> holstein: yes, I think i'll try that at some point.
[16:36] <karab44> I am asking about Cleanup program, that cleans temporary files, sets variables to defaults, removes unused libraries, removes unused files, folders, dead links, registeries and so on.
[16:36] <RoyK> cuddylier: can you access that exact dir on the server if you ssh into it as admin.214?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> Sach, I think holstein has some good suggestions , did you see his post above ?
[16:37] <cuddylier> RoyK I can FTP into it, not SSH
[16:37] <cuddylier> RoyK This is a remote FTP server I'm trying to connect to
[16:37] <RoyK> cuddylier: if you sftp in, what is your root dir? the home dir?
[16:37] <cuddylier> I have no other access apart from this FTP account
[16:37] <cuddylier> My root directory is /root
[16:37] <cuddylier> Well, the remote FTP's server is /root
[16:38] <RoyK> cuddylier: can you make sftp work non-recursively?
[16:38] <RoyK> cuddylier: rsync will have the same root as that one
[16:38] <karab44> holstein: by saying good program I mean a program that people use and are satisfied.
[16:38] <cuddylier> RoyK I do not have access to SFTP on that other box
[16:38] <cuddylier> I only have FTP and nothing else
[16:38] <Sach> BluesKaj: yes, I'll try that.
[16:39] <RoyK> karab44: registeries?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> Sach, good :)
[16:39] <RoyK> cuddylier: does sftp work at all?
[16:39] <cuddylier> The normal FTP client works fine, only if it supported recursively copying files I'd be fine..
[16:39] <cuddylier> On that other box it works yes
[16:39] <cuddylier> But isn't accessible to me
[16:39] <RoyK> cuddylier: ncftpget -R ...
[16:39] <cuddylier> :O
[16:39] <cuddylier> I found on google the FTP didn't support that but maybe not..
[16:39] <karab44> RoyK: yes, if any
[16:39] <cuddylier> RoyK Do I use ncftpget [hostname] then?
[16:39] <Sach> chris5000: I'm going to log off for a bit to try holstein's suggestions.  Will let you know when I'm back.
[16:40] <cuddylier> Oh wait no
[16:40] <chris5000> Sach: ok. try rm -r ~/.pulse*; pulseaudio -k when you get a chance
[16:40] <chris5000> Sach: this will delete your pulseaudio user settings
[16:40] <chris5000> maybe regenerating new ones will fix this
[16:41] <RoyK> karab44: what do you mean by 'registeries'?
[16:41] <Sach> chris5000: http://pastebin.com/Dj56Fpy3
[16:41] <RoyK> Sach: then it's not running
[16:42] <Sach> RoyK: so how do I get it to run?
[16:42] <cuddylier> RoyK When I try ncftp 192.34.110.8 it just sits connecting when I can connect to the FTP on my PC now fine?
[16:42] <RoyK> Sach: not sure, not very good with desktop things
[16:42] <chris5000> RoyK: it is running it's just unresponsive
[16:43] <RoyK> cuddylier: ncftp -u username ipaddress
[16:43] <chris5000> Sach: do the same thing just append the killall command you did before to forcefully kill it
[16:44] <Sach> chris5000: "sudo pulseaudio --kill"  ?
[16:44] <SubCool> Could somoen help me with this.. - its made 100+ notes for my fingerprint scanner, and then when i use software to use it.. it doesnt see it
[16:44] <SubCool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6040939
[16:44] <chris5000> Sach: that might not work.. try killall pulseaudio
[16:45] <Sach> chris5000: done.  but how do I know it is killed?
[16:45] <chris5000> Sach: check for the process id
[16:45] <chris5000> Sach: ps aux
[16:46] <chris5000> ps aux | grep pulseaudio might work
[16:46] <RoyK> Sach: ps axf| grep procame
[16:46] <RoyK> procname, even
[16:46] <RoyK> Sach: or pgrep procname
[16:46] <RoyK> or ...
[16:47] <Sach> chris5000: using your command: http://pastebin.com/nwHJdRiR
[16:48] <marianne> is it possible to update the kernel without updating the version I'm on?
[16:49] <cuddylier> RoyK Seems to work perfectly :) Thanks for your help.
[16:50] <Sach> chris5000: going to try a live cd and see what happens.  Back soon.
[16:50] <RoyK> cuddylier: you can create a bookmark in ncftp to make things easier
[16:50] <cuddylier> Oh, cool
[16:50] <RoyK> cuddylier: and save the password
[16:51] <RoyK> cuddylier: just type 'bookmark mybookmarkname'
[16:51] <cuddylier> Okay, thanks
[16:51] <RoyK> after cd'ing into the right dir
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Sach, i joined too late . but what does aplay -l output ?
[16:52] <Sach> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/4APCz1Hy
[16:53] <BluesKaj> Sach, ok , have you run , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel ?
[16:53] <chris5000> Sach: ok
[16:53] <Sach> BluesKaj: just did, but nothing seems to have happened.
[16:54] <RoyK> Sach: check dmesg
[16:54] <BluesKaj> sac no output means the module/driver loaded properly
[16:54] <BluesKaj> Sach,^
[16:54] <Sach> BluesKaj: I opened a file after that command, and I have sound!
[16:55] <BluesKaj> if it didn't there would be error messages , Sach`
[16:55] <BluesKaj> Sach, ok good
[16:56] <Sach> chris5000, RoyK: BluesKaj's command seems to have done the trick: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[16:56] <RoyK> Sach: then add snd-hda-intel to /etc/modules
[16:56] <RoyK> Sach: otherwise it won't be loaded on boot
[16:57] <Sach> RoyK: how do I do that?  Just type that command in the terminal?
[16:57] <Sach> BluesKaj: can you suggest what the problem might've been to begin with?  My sound suddendly disappeared while I was listening to an mp3 earlier today.
[16:57] <RoyK> Sach: just edit /etc/modules
[16:57] <RoyK> Sach: as for editor, use nano if you're a newbie or vim if you're not ;)
[16:58] <RoyK> or emacs if you like that sort of thing
[16:58] <BluesKaj> Sach, add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, options snd-hda-intel index=0 , this makes the module your default
[16:58] <RoyK> BluesKaj: nice - didn't know that one
[16:59] <Sach> RoyK: I'm sorry to say that I'm completely lost.  :(
[16:59] <Lockal> سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ
[16:59] <Sach> RoyK: How do I find /etc/modules?
[16:59] <Lockal> YEAH
[17:00] <RoyK> looks like Lockal is trying to DoS Mac uses - isn't that a good reason to get him or her out of here?
[17:00] <chris5000> can't he just do cat >> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, and paste options snd-hda-intel index=0, enter and then ctrl-d
[17:00] <SubCool> anyone? - screwy dmesg
[17:00] <SubCool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6040939
[17:00] <Lockal> RoyK, what's common with mac and this channel?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> Sach, use alt +F2 gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[17:00] <RoyK> chris5000: or echo 'options snd-hda-intel index=0' >> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[17:01] <chris5000> Sach: do any of the things listed above by me or RoyK
[17:01] <RoyK> Lockal: well, users of all sorts hang in all sorts of channels - posting things to DoS people isn't very nice
[17:02] <Sach> RoyK: so I've opened alsa-base.conf (/etc/modprobe.d).  onto which line do I paste snd-hda-intel ?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> too many cooks guys , maybe those terminal commands work , but it's better in my view to to see the actual file and see what he's dealing with
[17:03] <chris5000> Sach: just type this into your terminal echo 'options snd-hda-intel index=0' >> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[17:03] <chris5000> and you should be good
[17:03] <BluesKaj> sach  , at the bottom is fine
[17:03] <Sach> chris5000: all as one line?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> like I said chris5000 , too many cooks
[17:04] <BluesKaj> Sach, paste , options snd-hda-intel index=0 , at the bottom
[17:05] <Sach> BluesKaj: to confirm, "options snd-hda-intel index=0"  ?
[17:05] <BluesKaj> sac yes without the quotes
[17:05] <BluesKaj> Sach,^
[17:05] <RoyK> Sach: just run 'nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf'
[17:05] <Sach> BluesKaj: can you suggest what the cause of the problem might've originally been?
[17:05] <RoyK> Sach: better learn to use an editor to see what you're actually doing
[17:06] <BluesKaj> RoyK, enough already , just let him finish
[17:07] <RoyK> BluesKaj: I don't really agree - if he understands the content of those config files, he'll understand more about how linux is configured
[17:07] <sett> i tried everything from google, any help will be appreciated http://i.imgur.com/FhahZhH.jpg
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Sach, it's common after upgrades , the audio module doesn't get loaded , if you removed pulseaudio you might want to install it again so you get audio on youtube and other websites
[17:08] <Sach> BluesKaj, RoyK, Chris5000: you are all great.  thank you for your help.  :)
[17:08] <BluesKaj> RoyK, that why i told him to use gedit with the run command
[17:09] <RoyK> BluesKaj: I keep forgetting that I'm in #ubuntu and not in #ubuntu-server :þ
[17:10] <usr325> hello everybody, I have ubuntu 13.04 running with boot/efi on fat32 (configured automatically by ubuntu installation) now I want to install another distro, if i choose to do so without installing grub will ubuntu discover that distro ?
[17:10] <BluesKaj> Rokixz, there's nothing wrong with your cli command suggestions , but editing the actual config file can be beneficial in terms of understanding
[17:11] <chris5000> BluesKaj: RoyK: this is a petty argument just get over it
[17:12] <ww2005> #minetest
[17:12] <BluesKaj> chris5000, argument ? what argument ?
[17:12] <ww2005> join #minetest
[17:13] <RoyK> Christi123: most people that join this channel want to learn, not only given a quick fix
[17:25] <X-User> wh is software centre calling this packages untrusted? "libav-tools libavdevice53 libavfilter2 rtmpdump youtube-dl"
[17:25] <X-User> *why
[17:25] <RoyK> X-User: using some ppa?
[17:26] <X-User> RoyK, nope, Software Centre
[17:26] <RoyK> nothing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[17:26] <RoyK> X-User: try to run an apt-get update
[17:27] <X-User> RoyK, ok
[17:30] <X-User> what will this command do? "apt-get autoremove"
[17:31] <BluesKaj> !autoremove
[17:31] <te> X-User: See  man apt-get
[17:32] <OerHeks> X-User, good start > http://askubuntu.com/questions/3167/what-is-difference-between-the-options-autoclean-autoremove-and-clean
[17:32] <BluesKaj> X-User, it gets rid of unneeded packages mostly
[17:32] <moza> hello, i am trying to open new types of documents and i want to associate them with applications, but in the list, i can only choose folders and files, is there a way to be able to choose a list of applications?
[17:32] <X-User> ok OerHeks BluesKaj
[17:34] <te> moza: properties?
[17:34] <te> moza: Choose to always do it.
[17:36] <te> moza: (I use thunar)
[17:36] <moza> ok, now i realize that i have two problems.
[17:36] <moza> te : it seems to work, but does not give the possibility of the program i want (calibre to open epub files)
[17:37] <moza> and in firefox, is where the initial problem i described appears.
[17:38] <karab44> I don't see any java to install JRE or JDK
[17:38] <karab44> how to do it in a right way?
[17:38] <te> moza: Using Nautilus?  If so, see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66524/why-cant-i-make-a-file-association-in-nautilus
[17:38] <X-User> is downloading youtube-dl from this page safe? http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
[17:39] <te> X-User: Use your package manager.
[17:40] <te> X-User: But I think that most youtube videos have a download option below the viewer.
[17:40] <moza> te : i'll try to read more, but basically, i have an issue from two perspectives, one is calibre not being in the app choices, and the other with firefox not getting a list of apps for me to choose. Thanks for your link, i'll go look into it.
[17:40] <tmmunq> about as safe as its going to get, thats the project homepage apparently
[17:40] <X-User> te, the one that is downloaded from official repos says to download from this link
[17:41] <te> X-User: (youtube-dl is just an application that helps you download videos from youtube.  There are Firefox Plugins for that, so..)
[17:41] <X-User> te, i need it
[17:42] <te> moza: /join #firefox
[17:42] <majornick> can anyone help me i am totally lost with audacity? ap. i can not get it eve rocord now. it has gone totally crazy on me. at first i had somehting good going with tis app but now it has gone talotally crazy on me and i hav no idea now to even record a dingle littel test file.
[17:42] <te> X-User: So install it.
[17:42] <X-User> can anybody help? (and please do not say bot patiance)
[17:43] <BluesKaj> te, youtube-dl is very handy and less clunky than the FF plugin'
[17:43] <X-User> te, command line programme is much more powerful than firefox plugins
[17:43] <majornick> when i first installed audacity it wored fine but now its ttotally fubar what is going on and how can i reset it bakc ck to original please config file maybe?
[17:43] <X-User> BluesKaj, can u help plz?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> X-User, can you state your problem , i was disconnected for a few mins and may have missed it
[17:45] <X-User> BluesKaj, ok the youtube-dl from official repos said me to download it from http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html , is it safe?
[17:45] <majornick> damn audacity saoked up all my ram and id nothing i got no good audio i am done please helpo?
[17:46] <majornick> I launch audacity and hit record and get nothing.
[17:46] <peyton> Hi -- I used apt-get to "install nginx" (well, actually, puppet did).  But the version is super old -- 0.7.65.  When I do 'apt-cache show nginx' I see three different versions of nginx -- how can I install the right one?
[17:46] <majornick> i need audacifdty support
[17:47] <majornick> damn
[17:47] <SubCool> well, now i dont feel so stupid.. i knowi ts weird its doing what its doing, but- its not easily remidied.. so- YAY..
[17:47] <BluesKaj> X-User, user it's in the repos , just do , sudo apt-get install youtube-dl , in the terminal
[17:47] <Pici> peyton: the 'right one'?  The one with the highest version number will be installed if you don't specify anthing.
[17:48] <majornick> what is wrong with audacity?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> majornick, have you updated/upgraded ?
[17:48] <majornick> i am done . i got to do this podcast and this thing has done man
[17:48] <majornick> BluesKaj: oh damn
[17:48] <majornick> ok let me try that
[17:48] <majornick> and i be tthats not it but wait a few and ibbl
[17:49] <peyton> Pici: hmm, I guess I don't understand the "highest version" rules yet -- when I do 'apt-cache show nginx', it looks like the cache knows about 3 versions -- one is 'Version: 1.4.2-1~lucid' but the one that appears to be installed is 'Version: 0.7.65-1ubuntu2.3'
[17:50] <Pici> peyton: Can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy nginx ?
[17:50] <X-User> BluesKaj, the one that is downloaded from official repos is saying it while i try to download anything
[17:51] <karab44> can I install java 7 JDK when I have 7 JRE already?
[17:51] <peyton> Pici: http://pastebin.com/dBm2bmVY
[17:52] <BluesKaj> X-User, anything ?
[17:52] <Pici> peyton: Have you done an apt-get dist-upgrade lately?
[17:52] <peyton> pici: actually, it looks like an apt-get install should install that later one -- so I guess I need to figure out why puppet's invocation of apt-get only installed the earlier one..?
[17:52] <LinuxStyle> hello
[17:52] <Pici> peyton: okay :)
[17:53] <majornick> no good sudo apt-get updat upgrade on the audacity issue i am dead in tha water and need nhuge hel pi go this poda cast i need to put out and am dead in tha water what is audacity doing?
[17:53] <X-User> BluesKaj, is is the output while trying to use it= Hi! We changed distribution method and now youtube-dl needs to update itself one more time.
[17:53] <X-User> This will only happen once. Simply press enter to go on. Sorry for the trouble!
[17:53] <X-User> From now on, get the binaries from http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html, not from the git repository.
[17:53] <majornick> rythmboc audacity is nuts man what is this goin on my box?
[17:54] <LinuxStyle> I need some advice: I got a desktop with an embedded intel hd4000. I took that because of the well known compatibility with linux. Now i want to buy two Asus monitors (PB278Q) and unfortunately I found out that the hd4000 only supports one monitor at the top resolution. Which card should I get to drive one or even both the screen ? The old question, Nvidia or ATI ?
[17:54] <majornick> i am dead in tha water with audacity on 13,04 ant even get it to record  even a test
[17:55] <majornick> major brealkdown
[17:55] <LinuxStyle> I mostly use ubuntu or arch, looking for something as functional and as well supported as the hd4000.
[17:55] <majornick> i cant believe this
[17:55] <BluesKaj> majornick, purge audacity and reinstall it
[17:55] <majornick> command?
[17:56] <majornick> sudo apt-get automremove?
[17:56] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get purge audacity
[17:56] <majornick> purge?
[17:56] <majornick> oki
[17:56] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:56] <majornick> bbl
[17:56] <majornick> thanks
[17:57] <LinuxStyle> anyone able to suggest a graphics card (ati or nvidia) which can support two monitors at 2560 x 1440 ? If you also had an hd4000 embedded, would you split the two monitors one on each graphics card or both on the same discrete one ?
[17:57] <X-User> BluesKaj, can u help?
[17:58] <k3ys3rsoz3> exit
[17:58] <BluesKaj> X-User, how ?
[17:58] <X-User> BluesKaj, is it bsafe to do what it said?
[17:58] <majornick> should i install audacity from terminal or ubintu software cener?
[17:58] <[Gentoo]> majornick: theyre the same thing
[17:59] <majornick> okm
[17:59] <X-User> majornick, what is the problem with audacity?
[17:59] <OerHeks> X-User, i just installed youtube-dl an no message appears about github
[17:59] <ikono> why do i have to get an ubuntu one account to install steam?
[18:00] <majornick> X-User: i think it might be a user error but damn if it aint somthing echinical
[18:00] <smaudet> !offtopic | LinuxStyle
[18:00] <X-User> OerHeks, have u tried to download anything? it is saying then.
[18:00] <BluesKaj> yes looks fine , but it's not really necessary , unless it installed a ppa or other source in your sources.list then i would be careful , look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d , to make sure nothing was added there that you don't want
[18:00] <smaudet> LinuxStyle: #hardware?
[18:00] <LinuxStyle> smaudet: well it needs to be compatible with ubuntu
[18:00] <BluesKaj> X-User,^
[18:01] <smaudet> LinuxStyle: Well most Nvidia cards are compatible with ubuntu, ATIs not bad either.
[18:01] <X-User> BluesKaj, that folder is empty
[18:02] <OerHeks> X-User, no it does not.
[18:02] <RoyK> X-User: check /etc/apt/sources.list to see if there's something non-ubuntu there
[18:02] <smaudet> LinuxStyle: the dual screen thing is a hardware thing though I think, you'd have to ask the specifics pertaining to multiple cards in #hardware
[18:03] <RoyK> X-User: and pastebin 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/'
[18:03] <smaudet> I don't know how that would work, although Nvidia supports TwinView just fine so probably fine. Again, not really an Ubuntu question
[18:03] <RoyK> (or output of that command :þ)
[18:03] <LinuxStyle> sure, although knowing a bit about X11 it's kinda relevant whether it supports better two in one or seperate
[18:03] <LinuxStyle> relevant to linux more than ubuntu
[18:03] <majornick> how can i get rythmbox out of my way its annoying me with thes audio file splease?
[18:03] <LinuxStyle> anyway, fair enough, i'll talk to the guys in #hardware
[18:04] <X-User> RoyK, nope all the links there are from either ubuntu.com or canonical.com
[18:04] <X-User> RoyK, that same thing is also showing in xubuntu
[18:04] <RoyK> X-User: did you try an apt-get update?
[18:05] <LinuxStyle> looks like i can't speak in hardware as i'm not registered
[18:05] <X-User> RoyK, i have updated
[18:05] <OerHeks> X-User, are you running 13.10?
[18:05] <RoyK> perhaps something is messed up in the repos - what do I know
[18:05] <X-User> OerHeks, yup 13.04
[18:05] <RoyK> 13.04 != 13.10
[18:05] <smaudet> LinuxStyle: ##hardware
[18:06] <smaudet> LinuxStyle: your client should redirect you to the ##hardware from #hardware, but if it doesn't you'll get that message yeah
[18:06] <majornick> does anyone know how to get rythmbox out of myface?
[18:06] <LinuxStyle> i'm on the web client
[18:06] <majornick> can i like uninstall rythmbox forever and for good?
[18:07] <chris5000> majornick: yes
[18:07] <BluesKaj> X-User,  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:07] <majornick> chris5000: how to get rid of that thing?
[18:07] <chris5000> just uninstall it like any other program
[18:07] <majornick> purge?
[18:07] <X-User> oh great, have you guys even tried that app?
[18:07] <chris5000> majornick: mhm
[18:08] <majornick> X-User: what rythmbox man its like popping up all the time if only i could turn it ooff i woudlnt need to uninstallit
[18:08] <OerHeks> X-User, just finished download a youtube movie, there is something wrong with your ubuntu, or you running 13.10 or a fork of ubuntu ?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> X-User, youtube-dl ? yes , I've run it a few times
[18:09] <OerHeks> X-User, as you did not wanted to paste sources list and more important sourceslist.d, we cannot tell
[18:09] <BluesKaj> X-User, youtube-dl is a command line application
[18:09] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, his ppa list is empty
[18:10] <X-User> OerHeks, running 13.04
[18:10] <majornick> how to uninstall rythmbox forever please?
[18:11] <X-User> OerHeks, as a told already theres nothing from third-party in my ppa list
[18:11] <OerHeks> majornick, if you fishished the purge command you were given, reboot and it will be gone?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> majornick, remember the command I gace for purging audacitty , well just put  rythmbox instaed
[18:11] <majornick> oh lord this is to much
[18:11] <X-User> OerHeks, well I am trying this in kubuntu  and xubuntu the same thing
[18:11] <majornick> why cant i just do my damn podcast
[18:12] <majornick> why is this so hard?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> majornick, don't waste time complaining
[18:12] <X-User> OerHeks, and also try this command "sudo youtube-dl -U'
[18:13] <majornick> im deada
[18:13] <OerHeks> X-User, ah, so you use an option with youtube-dl. .. and sudo ... nice
[18:13] <majornick> i just lost my job
[18:14] <NickRice> is there any linux distribution created with a programmer in mind for easy access of libraries and ides and such?
[18:14] <majornick> wow
[18:14] <X-User> OerHeks, that one updates the youtube-dl as of "youtube-dl --help"
[18:14] <majornick> i lost my job because audacity broke? wtf?
[18:14] <chris5000> majornick: sudo apt-get remove rhythmbox
[18:15] <tmmunq> how do i set ubuntu to not wait for an IP on boot?
[18:15] <majornick> chris5000: i have no clue its way srose than that why cant i even get audacity to record even a litttle teat?
[18:15] <majornick> test
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> majonick no swearing please
[18:15] <majornick> im done im dead i just lost my job its over
[18:16] <X-User> can anybody even help me right way?
[18:16] <chris5000> majornick: i don't know how audacity works
[18:16] <Mekaari> majornick: nobody is going to help you if you keep freaking out
[18:16] <chris5000> majornick: don't underestimate the power of google
[18:17] <majornick> chris5000: its user error no worries here you guys are stller
[18:17] <majornick> \stellar
[18:18] <smaudet> NickRice: not really, although all linux distros are dev friendly. What sort of programming are you looking to do?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> X-User, help you with what ? We've already given you several options , but you don't seem to want to co-operate
[18:18] <smaudet> NickRice: also offtopic, did you try #linux?
[18:18] <smaudet> NickRice: and #programming
[18:19] <NickRice> i havent but i will!
[18:19] <NickRice> ty
[18:20] <majornick> in reality. i am so nuwby i just reinstall a new OS distro Live usb unetbootin every 3 days beacuse i have no clue what is goin gon things just go crazy on me. can this ever be friendly? i mean Linux?
[18:20] <chris5000> majornick: use windows
[18:20] <chris5000> most of the people who use linux intend on learning what's under the hood
[18:20] <majornick> chris5000: i would rather by apple and sell me car
[18:21] <majornick> chris5000: man if you only knew how hard my brain was trying
[18:21] <chris5000> then use apple, whatever
[18:21] <chris5000> if linux eludes you then it's not for you
[18:21] <majornick> chris5000: sadly
[18:21] <X-User> BluesKaj, well, dont be angry, i mean to say the i downloaded it from software centre, then "sudo  youtube-dl -U" as of "youtube-dl --help" and then tried to downloads a video,  then it said me to download from http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html tried with Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu 13.04 and another distro as well all the same
[18:22] <awc737> normally, don't users have access to /usr/local ?
[18:22] <kboodu> majornick: Or try using something like a chromebook
[18:22] <awc737> I have sudo access
[18:22] <awc737> why don't I have access to /usr/local ? is this a ubuntu thing
[18:22] <smaudet> awc737: what on earth are you on about?
[18:22] <X-User> BluesKaj, i have to do "sudo youtube-dl -U" because it wasnt working
[18:22] <kboodu> majornick: But that's moving to offtopic.
[18:22] <awc737> git clone repo /usr/local/src
[18:22] <smaudet> there is no restriction to /usr/local other than the need to sudo
[18:22] <awc737> lol
[18:23] <X-User> BluesKaj, and I already told theres no third party ppa
[18:23] <awc737> ok, i don't want to sudo, i want to install node / npm there
[18:23] <BluesKaj> X-User, look in your /home/yourusername/Downloads  for the youtube-dl app , you may have to run it from there to install
[18:23] <smaudet> awc737: a) not a good place to stick your source b) sudo git clone etc etc
[18:23] <RoyK> X-User: if normal commands don't work, they usually don't work better if you sudo them
[18:23] <kboodu> awc737: You don't have write permission to /usr/local without sudo
[18:23] <awc737> is it all right to 775 /usr/local, chmod root:staff, and add me to staff?
[18:23] <quadHelix> If i want to remove a users password, can I edit /etc/shadow and remove the characters between the first and seciond semi-colon?
[18:23] <RoyK> X-User: if you sudo everything, someone will brick your box eventually
[18:23] <smaudet> awc737: i wouldn't recommend it
[18:24] <awc737> i thought that was what /usr/local was for
[18:24] <awc737> so /opt then?
[18:24] <smaudet> awc737: you are free to do what you like of course, but if you install packages then they may go into /usr/local
[18:24] <X-User> RoyK, i have not sudo them, that apps help file told to update the definitions with that sudo command
[18:24] <awc737> yes smaudet i want to put global packages for users there
[18:24] <awc737> but not have them require sudo
[18:24] <smaudet> awc737: well its for user (non-distro) system stuff
[18:24] <kboodu> awc737: By changing the permissions and opening it up to anyone to write to it, you open yourself to security compromises.
[18:24] <smaudet> awc737: they won't require sudo just to read it
[18:25] <X-User> BluesKaj, nothing in there
[18:25] <OerHeks> X-User, it just works fine here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6041291/  did you install restricted extra's?
[18:25] <mojtaba> Hi, Could you please let me know how can I format a usb disk via command line?
[18:25] <awc737> kboodu, it's 775, therefore only staff group users
[18:25] <X-User> OerHeks, yup, i use restricted extras
[18:25] <awc737> smaudet, oh ok, perfect
[18:25] <awc737> so installing needs sudo, running it will be fine
[18:25] <clue_h> mojtaba, yes
[18:25] <smaudet> awc737: yes
[18:25] <X-User> OerHeks, whats problem with it?
[18:25] <awc737> thanks
[18:25] <mojtaba> clue_h: What should I do?
[18:25] <kboodu> awc737: Not on my system.  So it might be version specific.
[18:26] <smaudet> awc737: I still wouldn't put your srcs in /usr/local
[18:26] <smaudet> put them in your e.g. home directory, compile, install with sudo
[18:26] <awc737> i was frustrated and already do chmod 775 / chown root:staff on /usr/local
[18:26] <X-User> mojtaba, you can use gparted to format usb stick
[18:26] <awc737> would it be safe to do chmod 755 / chown root:root back on this?
[18:26] <awc737> i think that's the default setting for everything in it
[18:26] <smaudet> awc737: yes
[18:26] <smaudet> chmod 755
[18:26] <mojtaba> X-User: Yes, I know that, but I would like to do that via command line
[18:27] <BluesKaj> X-User,  is there a youtube-dl binary in /usr/bin ?
[18:27] <awc737> except a few python libraries i noticed in /usr/local/share were 775
[18:27] <awc737> i mean in /usr/local/lib
[18:27] <X-User> mojtaba, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/linux-format-your-usb-drive-via-command.html
[18:27] <clue_h> mojtaba, take note of the device path, unmount it and use makefs
[18:28] <smaudet> awc737: you shouldn't do that, those processes can be modified by staff members
[18:28] <mojtaba> X-User: clue_h: Thanks
[18:28] <awc737> smaudet, so I shouldn't chmod 775/chown root:root on /usr/local ?
[18:29] <basichash> How can I install themes? I've tried putting it in ~/.themes, but no dice (ubuntu 12.04, GNOME)
[18:29] <smaudet> smaudet: chmod 755 && chown root:root
[18:29] <clue_h> awc737, you should leave it as it is
[18:29] <awc737> clue_h, I'm asking how to get it back
[18:29] <smaudet> clue_h: he already modified it
[18:29] <awc737> clue_h, I already chmod 775 / chown root:staff
[18:29] <X-User> BluesKaj, theres only a python script named youtube-dl in that folder
[18:29] <clue_h> past tense then lol
[18:29] <mojtaba> X-User: I used mkdosfs, but when mounting the device, it just show an error and does not mount it!
[18:29] <basichash> How can I install themes? I've tried putting it in ~/.themes, but no dice (ubuntu 12.04, GNOME)
[18:29] <awc737> because I noticed that's what the python libraries were
[18:29] <awc737> so everything else now matches them
[18:29] <smaudet> ...
[18:30] <awc737> i'm wondering if everything else in /usr/local is probably 755/root:root
[18:30] <clue_h> mojtaba, http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-format-usb-drive-in-the-terminal/
[18:30] <trism> basichash: putting them in ~/.themes works but you can't use Appearances to change them, you need to use gnome-tweak-tool or something similar
[18:30] <basichash> trism: it's not showing up in tweak
[18:30] <basichash> this theme specifically: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MediterraneanNight+Series?content=156782
[18:30] <X-User> mojtaba, working for me.
[18:31] <smaudet> awc737: lookup user and group permissions - then make a decision based on who you want to be able to modify your system
[18:31] <BluesKaj> X-User, then it should be working , it is a cli app
[18:31] <smaudet> awc737: if you don't know that, just stick with root and 755
[18:31] <awc737> smaudet, i know about it. was just wondering defaults on it
[18:31] <awc737> yeah, i'm not worried about it anymore
[18:31] <X-User> BluesKaj, yup i nkw
[18:31] <quadHelix> If i want to remove a users password (employee quit), can I edit /etc/shadow and remove the characters between the first and seciond semi-colon?  Allowing me then to set a new password?
[18:31] <X-User> BluesKaj, knw
[18:32] <clue_h> remove the user entirely
[18:32] <smaudet> awc737: if it helps those are the permissions on my /usr/local
[18:32] <awc737> thanks smaudet
[18:33] <basichash> How can I install a gnome theme?
[18:33] <ubuntu-studio> hello
[18:33] <clue_h> quadHelix, like 'deluser user'
[18:33] <basichash> How can I install a gnome theme?
[18:33] <clue_h> i mean userdel
[18:34] <daftykins> !themes
[18:34] <ubuntu-studio> wich is the best editor to program in c_
[18:34] <daftykins> basichash: ^
[18:34] <quadHelix> clue_h so best course of action is to backup their home directory then recreate user / replace files?
[18:34] <trism> basichash: shows up fine in 13.04, they do say gnome 3.6 and 3.8 which isn't in 12.04, though I don't know if that should matter
[18:34] <smaudet> awc737: the write permissions i think are for some python specific files, they are not for the executables themselves
[18:34] <X-User> BluesKaj, oh i got it at last, according to youtube-dl devs the one that is present in official git repos is no longer working/recommended it said to download it from http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html for both mac os x and gni/linux distros in the same process,so have to do that.
[18:34] <quadHelix> clue_h what happened to the good ol' days when you could boot single user and replace passwords?
[18:34] <smaudet> awc737: so e.g. package management stuff
[18:34] <clue_h> quadHelix, it accounts for /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd. so it just removes credentials, as for files i am not certain on what the best thing to do would be
[18:34] <smaudet> anything else is probably a mistake
[18:34] <basichash> trism: perhaps that's the issue. thanks nonetheless
[18:35] <X-User> BluesKaj, *GNU/Linux
[18:35] <quadHelix> right arm, ty clue_h
[18:35] <clue_h> quadHelix, you can do it the old way too but this is easier to me
[18:35] <trism> basichash: you could use a bit of gsettings to set it directly: http://askubuntu.com/a/79616/68188
[18:35] <basichash> trism: If i want to install a shell theme, where would I put the directory?
[18:35] <quadHelix> yes, this is production server and I can not goto init 1
[18:35] <clue_h> ah i see now
[18:36] <trism> basichash: same place, ~/.themes, gnome-shell themes include an extra directory in ~/.theme/ThemeName/gnome-shell
[18:36] <trism> basichash: though I think you still need the user-theme extension to change those
[18:36] <basichash> trism: is that a package?
[18:36] <trism> basichash: it is a gnome-shell extension, I don't think we have it in the repos (definitely not in 12.04 anyway)
[18:37] <X-User> BluesKaj, never mind for inconvenience.
[18:37] <basichash> trism: ok thanks
[18:37] <trism> basichash: oh we do have it in 13.04 now though, gnome-shell-extensions package
[18:38] <quadHelix> Can I set up sudoers file to only allow access to chmod, chown, chgrp for a single directory?
[18:39] <joelwallis> I'm trying to enable the multitouch feature on my Vostro. How can I do that?
[18:41] <RoyK> quadHelix: AFAIK you can only setup sudo for certain commands - for chgrp for a dir, use the +t (sticky) bit
[18:41] <holstein> karab44: did you find a solution? there used to literally be a "cleanup" entry in the menu. my answer was, if you want to delete files, a file manager will do so, and i assure you, my answer was an answer.. might not have been waht you are looking for..
[18:41] <RoyK> quadHelix: it might be possible to do that with sudo, but better to do it with normal permission bits
[18:42] <quadHelix> ty RoyK, perhaps I will chroot him at login.
[18:42] <smaudet> joelwallis: I don't know but it has to do with synaptics config files; let me know as well
[18:42] <karab44> holstein: will file manager autonomously remove tons of old hidden everywhere configure files and logs ?
[18:42] <quadHelix> I am required to share the server with a guy who knows squat about command line, I am worried about fixing his goofs.
[18:43] <holstein> karab44: the "cleanup" entry i mentioned does some automated cleanup.. so will the other command "sudo auto-remove". did you try that?
[18:43] <karab44> holstein: you try to be sarcastic but you exactly know what I mean
[18:43] <holstein> !volunteers | karab44
[18:44] <karab44> so what?
[18:44] <joelwallis> smaudet: I found some documentation in community.ubuntu.com but I don't know how to install the DKMS module provided in launchpad.net
[18:44] <nurow> can anyone recommend me a solid mobi/epub reader from Ubuntu?
[18:44] <DJones> nurow: Have a look at FBreader
[18:44] <holstein> karab44: i would try narrowing the field to *exactly* what it is you are tyring to do.. did you try "sudo apt-get autoremove" ?.. that removes some apps that you might now want anymore
[18:44] <karab44> stop hidding behind ubottu and don't be sarcastic. If you're tired make a break, have a rest.
[18:44] <genii> nurow: calibre is also good
[18:45] <z0ran> nurow try calibre
[18:45] <z0ran> im using it
[18:45] <holstein> karab44: i like to do this manually, because i dont trust any automatic tools..
[18:45] <z0ran> i like it a lot
[18:45] <nurow> thanks guys
[18:45] <holstein> karab44: ? please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat. thanks
[18:46] <karab44> yes, I tried auto-remove it is a basic. I am looking for a tool that will scan HDD in search for old unused files, logs, configs, empty folders and stuff. How many times can I repeat
[18:47] <holstein> karab44: auto-remove removes applications that you might not be using anymore.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-to-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu is how to remove old kernels
[18:47] <holstein> karab44: i would literally navigate to an unwanted config file and delete it.. is that not going to work for you?
[18:47] <karab44> yes, old kernels are quite heavy
[18:48] <holstein> karab44: not really "heavy" at all. but here is another suggestion http://askubuntu.com/questions/20127/how-to-remove-configuration-files-completely
[18:48] <idioterna> how do i get gdisk in installer shell?
[18:48] <idioterna> or fdisk or anything similar?
[18:49] <quadHelix> idioterna, press CTRL+ALT+F2 for console.
[18:49] <idioterna> i have my shell
[18:50] <idioterna> i just don't know where the gdisk is on the install media
[18:50] <quadHelix> i have not used gdisk, i have used fdisk and gparted
[18:50] <idioterna> how did you get them?
[18:50] <quadHelix> they came on the liveCD
[18:50] <idioterna> my installer doesn't have fdisk
[18:50] <holstein> idioterna: you shouldnt need to do what you are doing. what iso are you using?
[18:50] <X-User> btw if you guys have not belived me you guys can check this page and the last comment http://www.tecmint.com/install-youtube-dl-command-line-video-download-tool/ BluesKaj  OerHeks RoyK
[18:50] <karab44> holstein: thanks a lot. I found it very useful. I am a bit tired, that's why I am not in a mood, sorry for that. I hope you understand.
[18:50] <idioterna> 12.04 lts installer
[18:50] <quadHelix> sudo apt-cache search gparted if you have internet
[18:50] <idioterna> server
[18:51] <joelwallis> smaudet: following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection it seems to be a bug in kernel. I'll file an issue on the project issue queue.
[18:51] <joelwallis> anyway thanks for helping
[18:51] <idioterna> i don't want to use the partitioning ui
[18:51] <idioterna> i used to be able to fdisk the first drive and then dd the partition to other drives and then set up md and lvm
[18:52] <holstein> idioterna: if you dont want to use it, you should be prepared to use something custom, and i dont think you are
[18:52] <idioterna> but my shell doesn't have fdisk anymore
[18:52] <idioterna> fdisk was there in 10.04
[18:52] <idioterna> and it isn't anymore
[18:52] <idioterna> how do i get it?
[18:52] <holstein> idioterna: my live CD boots and lets me custom partition the disk.. it should work fine for you. otherwise, you can load that *very* 10.04 cd you want to be using and partion the disk.. then install to it
[18:52] <idioterna> i'm also ok with gdisk since i'd prefer GPT partitions
[18:52] <quadHelix> I have server 12.04, my fdisk is located at /sbin/fdisk
[18:52] <idioterna> no, i have 24 disks.
[18:53] <idioterna> i really don't want to partition them in the installer
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> idioterna  maybe you have to type the full path for fdisk, not just the command name
[18:53] <holstein> idioterna: then, you should find a way to use the custom tool you want to use..
[18:53] <BluesKaj> X-User, my question is , why would you use that method in the first place? The app doesn't need a ppa source.
[18:54] <idioterna> what custom tool, isn't fdisk/gdisk the most basic utility for manipulating disk partitions?
[18:54] <idioterna> does ubuntu ship with others?
[18:54] <ubuntu-visitor5> hi, who has a vpn server?
[18:54] <X-User> BluesKaj, i told the last comment not the article, also http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16995863/not-able-to-install-youtube-dl
[18:54] <idioterna> brb
[18:55] <holstein> idioterna: yes.. ubuntu has an insatller that you are not wanting to use.. gparted is in there. you should be able to use whatever you like from the live CD.. insatll whatever if its not there
[18:55] <X-User> BluesKaj, the one in official repos is not working it is showing = ERROR: unable to download video
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> idioterna  is it an installer or a live iso?
[18:56] <holstein> X-User: ask the content creator for a copy
[18:56] <X-User> holstein, huh?
[18:56] <holstein> X-User: the content creator or maintainer.. ask them for a copy
[18:56] <X-User> holstein, what content you are talking about? just don't get it.
[18:57] <holstein> X-User: whatever video it is you are trying to download
[18:58] <X-User> holstein, oh i know what you mean ! then just yoitube-dl is not being removed from official repos?
[18:58] <GoldenVirginia> Each user is in /home. I have 4 users and 4 HDD. How to give them dedicated HDD ?
[18:59] <daftykins> GoldenVirginia: symlink each /home/user to /user on the separate HDDs
[18:59] <holstein> X-User: i have no idea.. but nothing at youtube guarntees you to be able to download your own copy. so expect breakage of apps that try and provide that, as the downloading of said content is circumvented
[19:00] <X-User> holstein, this is the video i was trying to download http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6MlUcmOul8 and its open-source btw
[19:00] <holstein> X-User: then, the creator will have no issues sharing a copy with you
[19:00] <GoldenVirginia> daftykins: So /home/user will exist on my SSD, where my main OS is and they fill up with space of HDD with symlinks ?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> also sometimes wget or even curl can DL media that youtube-dl can't
[19:01] <X-User> holstein, ok i get what you mean, let it be i will download it from their website
[19:01] <daftykins> GoldenVirginia: that would be one way
[19:02] <GoldenVirginia> daftykins: symlink wouldnt hinder the performance ? and whats the other way ?
[19:02] <daftykins> GoldenVirginia: well, your home still contains some user data of applications like the .hidden folders, so what you could do is just symlink your Music/Photos/Video folders onto the HDDs to keep them off-SSD, whilst the application configs stay on the SSD to keep fast.
[19:04] <tripelb> What's an irc client for 12.04 that has built-in SASL?
[19:04] <GoldenVirginia> daftykins: Sounds good, symlinks don't hinder the performance, like extra burden on CPU , seek time etc ?
[19:04] <daftykins> GoldenVirginia: nope
[19:04] <GoldenVirginia> daftykins: Also, 64 GB SSD enough for this kind of thing ?
[19:05] <holstein> tripelb: i dont think freenode requires sasl
[19:05] <daftykins> GoldenVirginia: given a 13.04 install only uses <5GB, sure
[19:05] <ljetibo> Hello, I keep getting error of unresolved dependencies and/or broken packages. I've read on ubuntu forums that sudo apt-get -f install will help me but it didn't. Here are the pasties: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6041406/
[19:05] <GoldenVirginia> daftykins: Ill be running 12.04
[19:05] <holstein> tripelb: http://freenode.net/sasl/
[19:05] <ljetibo> yes, forgot, I'm also running ubuntu 12.04
[19:06] <GoldenVirginia> LTS server version
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> ljetibo  do      sudo apt-get update      first
[19:07] <Mace268> How do I restart my audio system? It sounds terrible after adjusting the volume in VLC.
[19:07] <ljetibo> MonkeyDust: do I run -f ater that or just update?
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> ljetibo  both
[19:07] <GoldenVirginia> daftykins: Thanks mate.
[19:08] <ljetibo> MonkeyDust: it seems to work now
[19:08] <ljetibo> MonekyDust: thank you!
[19:09] <ljetibo> MonkeyDust: Now to deinstall this pidgin and get myself a Konversation :)
[19:09] <idioterna> oh
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> ljetibo  sudo apt-get purge pidgin*; sudo apt-get autoremove;sudo apt-get install konversation
[19:09] <idioterna> gparted is indeed there
[19:10] <idioterna> but only as _server
[19:12] <idioterna> no there is no gparted
[19:12] <gianni> load .xchat2/budus.so
[19:12] <tripelb> holstein: freenode does require sasl if one is running from a phone tether. (Tho I didn't mention I wanted it for freenode, you guessed well)
[19:13] <idioterna> i tried using the installer's partitioner
[19:13] <gianni> load .xchat2/budus.so
[19:13] <idioterna> it won't let me turn on bootable flag
[19:13] <holstein> tripelb: the link i gave provieds *many* clients that support it.. you will note the ones that run in linux/ubuntu
[19:15] <idioterna> i see
[19:15] <idioterna> apparently this is a bug in partman
[19:15] <idioterna> it creates broken gpt partitions
[19:17] <baphomet111> hey guys.  question.  is there a way to set screen timeout options based upon if something is plugged in or not?  say I want my screen to power off after x time on battery, but never on AC.  I looked but I didn't see a setting for it
[19:18] <tripelb> holstein:  OK I was hoping someone would tell me which work in 12.04 since I know some of those from previous tries from that webpage and they don't. Maybe pidgin has gotten comment history now. Not having it was a deal breaker for me in the past.
[19:18] <holstein> tripelb: they are broken out in that list by version #'s
[19:18] <holstein> tripelb: ppa's add newer versions if you need
[19:18] <holstein> i thought chatzilla was on the list as well
[19:19] <tripelb> Short shrift.
[19:19] <baphomet111> ?
[19:23] <idioterna> it's impossible to create a 20G root lvm on a raid1 with GPT partitions using ubuntu installer
[19:23] <idioterna> if i create a dos partition table, then it works
[19:24] <idioterna> but then i can only use the first 2TB
[19:24] <iceroot_> is there a way to connect to a running application with ss (-X)? i dont want to restart that program
[19:24] <iceroot_> ssh
[19:25] <holstein> !info screen
[19:25] <baphomet111> i suppose the answer to my question is no
[19:25] <holstein> iceroot_: ^^ thats what i use to reconnect to screen sessions
[19:25] <histo> holstein: try tmux
[19:25] <iceroot_> holstein: i want to connect to a gui application which is already running
[19:25] <holstein> histo: i still just prefer screen.. tmux was just a bit different for me to learn and i just didnt..
[19:26] <histo> holstein: They have a screen keys config in the tmux examples from installation.
[19:26] <holstein> baphomet111: i just have that in the menu.. "on battery do this, on ac do this".. not sure if thats a main ubuntu/unity thing or what, friend.. i just see it there, and im not sure why you dont
[19:27] <holstein> histo: yeah, then its just like screen.. kind of.. which is what i have now :)
[19:27] <histo> holstein: less ram usage and a bit faster I've noticed
[19:28] <holstein> histo: i should revisit it..
[19:28] <histo> holstein: I actually use the vim keys config from the examples and just changed the default binding to ^a
[19:29] <tripelb>  I googled IRC client for ubu tu 12.04 and oinlky saw quassel and xchat. Neither script for xchat works. Hassel is for KDE and I use gnome. Help someone. I need an irc client that will handle SASL for my 12.04 gnome-classic installation.
[19:29] <histo> holstein: if you do check out /usr/share/doc/tmux/examples/*
[19:29] <ezra-s> wireless lan not connecting with AES but connecting with TKIP in 13.04 is a driver thing right?
[19:29] <histo> tripelb: what is wrong with xchat?
[19:29] <histo> tripelb: I'm using weechat here though
[19:30] <ezra-s> tripelb, hexchat has sasl support
[19:30] <ezra-s> built-in unlike xchat
[19:30] <histo> ezra-s: could be driver issue... What chipset?
[19:30] <histo> tripelb: if you apt-cache search irc   or use the software center you will find many clients available.
[19:31] <ezra-s> histo, Atheros ar242x says lspci
[19:32] <histo> ezra-s: hrmm... should be fine with that chipset what happens when you try wpa?
[19:33] <ezra-s> histo, it is wpa personal, only works with TKIP, if I force AES only in the wifi router it wont ever authenticate
[19:35] <histo> ezra-s: there are a lot of posts on askubuntu.com with that particular chipset. It appears other people are using different drivers
[19:35] <histo> ezra-s: people are also blacklisting the acer_wmi driver for what ever reason and having sucess
[19:36] <histo> ezra-s: http://askubuntu.com/search?q=ar242x
[19:36] <ezra-s> histo, it is an acer laptop.. mmm going to check that
[19:37] <histo> ezra-s: lspci -k  will show you what module is in use
[19:37] <K1rk> Hey everyone, I'm trying to allow IPv6 to my network using a Ubuntu 12.04 machine as my router.  It's providing NAT for IPv4, but I'd like to natively transport IPv6 addresses to machines inside my network.  Here's a diagram:  http://flupl.be/0813btcp.png    What configuration is needed on the Ubuntu machine to let the IPv6 flow inside the network?
[19:37] <sharif> help me
[19:37] <sharif> ubuntu dock useing plzz
[19:37] <sharif> help me
[19:37] <histo> !details | sharif
[19:37] <ezra-s> histo, ath5k
[19:38] <sharif> ubuntu 13.4 install in dock help
[19:38] <histo> sharif: Install what in dock?
[19:38] <K1rk> sharif, "in dock"?
[19:38] <sharif> dock
[19:39] <K1rk> sharif, if you pull your boat into a dock, and while sitting on your boat you install Ubuntu 13.04, you've just installed Ubuntu 13.04 in-dock.  I suggest you try that.
[19:39] <histo> sharif: what is your native language?
[19:39] <sharif> sorry
[19:40] <histo> ??
[19:42] <histo> sharif: Where are you from?
[19:43] <cyphase> sharif, inta miin waen?
[19:43] <vooze> Just installed Ubuntu on my laptop.. I'm using a screen (with HDMI) that that has sound in it, connected to the laptop.. But in the sound options I can't find the sound for the screen. Anyone tried this.. I guess its the same with TV screens connected to laptops maybe?
[19:44] <basichash> How can I remove the workspace bar at the bottom of my screen?
[19:44] <sharif> bd
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> basichash, what desktop?
[19:46] <synexo> exit
[19:47] <BluesKaj> vooze, open alsamixer , make sure the spdif shows pcm out , use the up/down arrow keys to select pcm
[19:48] <ZooIrene2> hey
[19:48] <vooze> BluesKaj, spdif is set to MM and I can't change it with the arrows :/
[19:48] <basichash> wilee-nilee: gnome
[19:48] <BluesKaj> vooze, use the M key to unmute MM
[19:49] <ZooIrene2> hey
[19:49] <ZooIrene2> whats up?
[19:50] <vooze> BluesKaj, did that, but the arrows still does nothing, it just says TT now.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> basichash, The gnome-shell has an extension insensitive message tray that will hide it go to the gnome 3 extension site
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> lots of other cool extensions there basichash
[19:51] <BluesKaj> vooze, what choices do you have in F6 ?
[19:51] <basichash> wilee-nilee: awesome, thanks
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[19:52] <vooze> BluesKaj,  -   (default)                        0  HDA Intel PCH             29  ThinkPad Console Audio Control
[19:53] <vooze> BluesKaj, I think the problem is that I dont have have HDMI options in the sound options
[19:53] <vooze> there is only the Speakers
[19:54] <sharif> how to install gnewsense
[19:54] <sharif> help
[19:54] <agodlydeciple> sharif, Download the ISO from their site, burn to cd, boot from cd, follow steps, done
[19:55] <sharif> thanx....
[19:55] <BluesKaj> vooze, the audio is transferred from the soundcard to the hdmi out , perhaps if you install pavucontrol then you have that option in the outputs there
[19:56] <vooze> BluesKaj, could it be because its a brand new screen (new as in new model) so its not supported yet?
[19:57] <alexgman> hey
[19:57] <BluesKaj> vooze, no the screen or monitor should bew supported right out of the box
[19:58] <BluesKaj> vooze, also install dkms
[20:00] <vooze> BluesKaj, just tried with pavucontrol, same result
[20:00] <vooze> trying somthing from askubuntu, brb :)
[20:00] <vooze> reboot
[20:04] <vooze> BlueEagle, okay I found a solution
[20:04] <vooze> I just did this.
[20:04] <vooze> Go to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+packages and install the latest oem-audio-hda-daily-lts-raring-dkms - ** ~precise1 deb and restart. If HDMI output is not the default selected, select it.
[20:04] <vooze> (i ofc. took raring)
[20:08] <M3rl1n> hey folds
[20:08] <M3rl1n> folks
[20:08] <M3rl1n> can someone help me out with fishlim?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> vooze, ok , I'm surprised that bug is still not fixed, i had that same problem 4 months ago
[20:11] <M3rl1n> BluesKaj, where might i find someone to help me with fishlim pm key exchange? any ideas?
[20:13] <BluesKaj> vooze, this is the one i've been using , adds a ppa to keep alsa upgraded https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> M3rl1n  fishlim is not in the repos, what is it?
[20:13] <vooze> BluesKaj, good idea, I'll add that too :) thanks alot
[20:13] <BluesKaj> vooze, np
[20:14] <jjavaholic> which ubuntu compiz setting would set everything bar my cursor to be dip in appearance?
[20:14] <M3rl1n> it is encrytption for irc chat using xchat. i have it installed and all set up just having trouble with key exchange
[20:14] <funky2> hey folks
[20:14] <funky2> how come many hosts have bugs
[20:14] <funky2> is it due to their drive to cut costs?
[20:14] <vooze> hosts?
[20:14] <funky2> webhosts
[20:15] <bekks> funky2: Because there is no bugfree software.
[20:15] <funky2> that I understand however customer service can be better
[20:15] <M3rl1n> MonkeyDust, no it is not in the repos. you have to compile anf build it yoursef.
[20:15] <funky2> like - we are profoundly sorry for the potential inconvenience caused
[20:15] <funky2> and so on
[20:15] <funky2> M3rl1n:  u can use otr
[20:15] <funky2> its also nice
[20:16] <agodlydeciple> M3rl1n: http://fishlim.kodafritt.se/ubuntu_install.html
[20:16] <M3rl1n> funky2, i will check that out.
[20:16] <bekks> funky2: Do you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[20:16] <funky2> no
[20:16] <funky2> :D
[20:16] <funky2> if I had it I would ask it
[20:17] <funky2> in this channel people always talk about ubuntu only? I doubt )
[20:17] <ljetibo_> hello, how do I unlock a folder in ubuntu 12.04 (I installed som libraries for programming in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages) and now when I try importing them I get an error because I don't have permission to acces the .py files
[20:17] <bekks> funky2: Then please keep this channel free for actual support. If you want to talk, join the offutopic channel.
[20:17] <vooze> Just because other people go offtopic, does not mean you have to :)
[20:17] <funky2> I love to
[20:17] <funky2> :)
[20:17] <Pici> !offtopic
[20:17] <funky2> haha
[20:17] <BluesKaj> funky2, this ubuntu support , which OS are you running ?
[20:18] <funky2> np I can talk  in defocus :D
[20:18] <funky2> or in PM
[20:18] <daftykins> do not speak of dirty IRC cesspits!
[20:18] <funky2> eee
[20:19] <Pici> lets move on
[20:19] <M3rl1n> since xchat is ubuntu's irc client. i would think that would be considered on topic
[20:19] <csabi> sziasztok
[20:20] <Pici> M3rl1n: You may have better luck asking in #xchat though
[20:20] <BluesKaj> M3rl1n, not if xchat is being run on a different OS
[20:20] <M3rl1n> Pici, thatnks. i will check that out :)
[20:21] <csabi> hungarian ?
[20:21] <Zouavman> Hey, I'm trying to update iOS on an iPhone 3G; possible using Linux? Or is iTunes absolutely necessary?
[20:21] <onekt> LOL
[20:21] <Pici> !hu | csabi
[20:22] <csabi> thx
[20:22] <Pici> Zouavman: I'm pretty sure that itunes is required
[20:22] <Zouavman> Pici, awesome, thanks! I'ma hop on XP then :)
[20:24] <mamed> hello guys . i think ubunt 13.04 consumes so much system sources cause my laptop fan always turns in a high speed and noisy
[20:24] <mamed> how can i optimize my system
[20:24] <bekks> Clean the fan.
[20:24] <histo> mamed: first clean your fan and ensure that it's not a bug that it's spinning at full speed constantly. Also what video chipset are you using and driver?
[20:24] <mamed> physical issues are done
[20:25] <baphomet111> haha bekks
[20:25] <baphomet111> clean fan. new thermal paste.
[20:25] <s4h4n> Hello guys.. Need help here... While trying to install ubuntu 13.04 I splitted a partition using windows disk manager. Then formatted it. Then disk became dynamic. Trying to get it back to Basic useda hex editor to edit a number... Now I can't boot into windows or.. install ubuntu what can i do??? Please help...
[20:25] <baphomet111> how much memory do you have installed in the system?
[20:25] <mamed> well in 11.10 everything was ok it was fast and stable and my fan were not making noise everytime
[20:25] <histo> s4h4n: boot the ubuntu installation media and fix your disks
[20:25] <M3rl1n> mamed, how does 13.04 look so far? i been thinking about trying it out live. but my 12.04 lts is just so slick im not seeing a need for it right now.
[20:25] <mamed> histo, i use fglrx
[20:25] <daftykins> hex editing >_<
[20:25] <daftykins> worst idea. ever.
[20:26] <baphomet111> mamed, 13.04 has a different DE, this could be why
[20:26] <s4h4n> But how??
[20:26] <mamed> yeah i  thought so  bec of the compositor
[20:26] <bekks> s4h4n: Use a live cd to revert your changes.
[20:26] <histo> s4h4n: depends what you did by editing. What editor did you use and what did you change?
[20:26] <daftykins> mamed: you probably shouldn't run Unity
[20:26] <mamed> daftykins, it is default one
[20:27] <daftykins> mamed: yeah i know...
[20:27] <mamed> only comes with def. installation also i loe global menu and dock on the right side
[20:27] <karab44> it's a long day...
[20:27] <baphomet111> daftykins, why not? unity 2d?
[20:27] <baphomet111> mamed, did you try unity 2d?
[20:27] <mamed> any tips for optimizing DE compositor
[20:27] <ljetibo_> oh I got it, google and whatnot
[20:27] <ljetibo_> thanks
[20:27] <daftykins> unity's bad in any form, heh
[20:27] <histo> !notunity | mamed
[20:27] <s4h4n> Used DxH or something like that , opened the disk, changed offset 1C2  from 42 to 07...
[20:28] <histo> mamed: What does top show using all your resources
[20:28] <PoolShark_> hey
[20:28] <bekks> s4h4n: Then you have to revert it now.
[20:28] <histo> s4h4n: well change it back
[20:28] <karab44> Guys I just updated nvidia drivers for [recommended] in ubuntu 12.04 and it doesn't boot at all.
[20:28] <mamed> well unity 2 d i think . but i changed my file manager to nemo
[20:28] <histo> wth is DxH
[20:28] <bekks> histo: Sounds like some Windows program.
[20:28] <histo> mamed: I doubt the file manager is taxing your resources
[20:28] <histo> mamed: Sounds like something else is going bad.
[20:28] <s4h4n> I don't find a hexeditor in live..
[20:28] <mamed> top - 23:28:39 up 10 min,  2 users,  load average: 1.51, 1.27, 0.77
[20:28] <mamed> Tasks: 186 total,   2 running, 184 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[20:28] <mamed> %Cpu(s): 26.5 us,  9.8 sy,  0.0 ni, 62.7 id,  0.3 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.7 si,  0.0 st
[20:28] <mamed> KiB Mem:   2064564 total,  1221280 used,   843284 free,    52316 buffers
[20:28] <mamed> KiB Swap:  1633276 total,        0 used,  1633276 free,   461008 cached
[20:28] <FloodBot1> mamed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <karab44> my system was 1 day old
[20:28] <jmeps3> Hi
[20:29] <histo> mamed: paste elsewhere and provide link
[20:29] <s4h4n> DxH a windowa app..
[20:29] <mamed> sorry
[20:29] <histo> karab44: What does it do now at boot?
[20:29] <mamed> ok my question is does ubuntu consumes 1.2GB RAM
[20:29] <histo> s4h4n: there are plenty of hex editors for linux. Or you could use gparted and just fix your partition table.
[20:29] <histo> !atemyram | mamed
[20:30] <jmeps3> ubuntu-br,
[20:30] <jmeps3> #ubuntu-br
[20:30] <karab44> histo: nothing, it hangs on booting with saving kernel something...
[20:30] <s4h4n> The problem is i can't install any programme on live...
[20:30] <karab44> I try to fetch some logs.
[20:30] <histo> mamed: Your cpu usage is rather high What is the top process using it all?
[20:30] <mamed> this is the some points i dont understand
[20:30] <histo> s4h4n: why not?
[20:30] <baphomet111> mamed, saying Ubuntu does is too broad
[20:30] <mamed> well compiz
[20:30] <histo> karab44: okay boot to livecd or rescue mode and remove the driver your installed.
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> s4h4n  a live session is for testing purposes, not for production
[20:30] <baphomet111> use something like top to find out what process is eating all your memory
[20:30] <baphomet111> that will help
[20:31] <feeshon> Anyone know to properly prune rsnapshot directories?
[20:31] <histo> MonkeyDust: he's trying to repair his system using the installation media.
[20:31] <mamed> ok i switch to a lightweight compositor
[20:31] <mamed> will unity wokr again
[20:31] <histo> feeshon: I'm sure there is an exclude switch?
[20:31] <histo> mamed: or try unity-2d
[20:31] <mamed> does it in repositry
[20:31] <s4h4n> OK then what can i use to repair it..
[20:31] <karab44> histo: good point but can you direct me how to go back to old driver/ remove new one?
[20:31] <histo> s4h4n: gparted
[20:31] <baphomet111> mamed, why not actually look and see what process is consuming all of your memory rather than trying things at random?
[20:32] <mamed> baphomet111,
[20:32] <karab44> it would be great
[20:32] <mamed> i said compiz
[20:32] <karab44> i am actually in livecd mode
[20:32] <histo> karab44: which one did you install?  boot to rescue mode and dpkg -l nvidia*
[20:32] <feeshon> Not sure if exclude is what would do it. I basically have hourly, monthy, and weekly snapshots, and I want to remove the old snapshots, but I am concerned that it will break other hard links
[20:32] <baphomet111> mamed, oh.  sorry!  didn't see
[20:32] <histo> karab44: okay well if you want to do it from livecd. You ahve to mount your / partition and chroot there
[20:32] <baphomet111> yeah, drop compiz
[20:33] <karab44> chroot there?
[20:33] <mamed> unity 2d dummy package?
[20:33] <karab44> i'll try
[20:33] <histo> karab44: yeah mount /dev/of/root /some/directory && chroot /some/directory && dpkg -l nvidia*
[20:33] <histo> !info unity2d
[20:33] <histo> !info unity-2d
[20:34] <mamed> yes i am installing
[20:34] <histo> mamed: or switch to xcompmgr or something
[20:34] <mamed> histo,  does unty work if i switch to xcommgr
[20:34] <mamed> i want global menu and right dock
[20:34] <histo> mamed: dunno never tried. I'd assume it would.
[20:34] <mamed> :(
[20:34] <jmeps3> Good afternoon, someone could show me how Copilo in ubuntu
[20:35] <karab44> histo: done, I am chroot on dead system now.
[20:35] <mamed> i am afraid to lose my so called stablre system
[20:35] <mamed> i will try 2 d
[20:35] <histo> mamed: Are you running 20 year old hardware? or just a messed up driver this should not be an issue.
[20:35] <mamed> histo, 5 yeared old laptop
[20:35] <histo> karab44: okay dpkg -l nvidia* | pastebinit
[20:35] <mamed> messed up with drivers
[20:36] <feeshon> histo: any idea
[20:36] <feeshon> ?
[20:36] <histo> mamed: I would assume it's a bug with whatever drivers you are using as unity should not be that taxing.
[20:36] <histo> feeshon: on?
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> jmeps3, Copilot?
[20:36] <histo> feeshon: doesn't rsnapshot build based on old ones? Like only copies the changes?
[20:37] <baphomet111> mamed, I run 13.04 on this laptop no problem
[20:37] <baphomet111> mamed, this laptop is not superpowerful by any means
[20:37] <mamed> ok but noice irritates me
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> feeshon  rsync -a also only copies the changes
[20:37] <Krystle_> Anyone know anything about udev and automount? I'm having a problem with a UDISKS_PRESENTATION_NOPOLICY flag I'm setting that seems to be totally ignored.
[20:37] <histo> mamed: My lappy is probably 7-8 year old low end model. Ran fine here when I was using unity.
[20:38] <baphomet111> histo, that's impressive
[20:38] <baphomet111> Krystle_, sorry, not I!
[20:38] <mamed> hmm
[20:38] <fartface> If I have an Ubuntu server running a ZFS pool, and run a VM stored in that storage pool, is the data stored inside of that VM integrity checked the same as the rest of the ZFS pool data?
[20:38] <histo> baphomet111: not really intel video chipset works jsut fine for me.
[20:38] <jjavaholic> I'm experiencing a never ending dim screen after accidently pressing sleep button on Keyboard how can I reverse this?
[20:38] <karab44> histo: http://pastebin.com/6CphXvhi
[20:39] <histo> fartface: the image for the vm would be checked as a whole
[20:39] <karab44> here are the dpkg
[20:39] <baphomet111> histo, I prefer not to run graphics cards with linux.  I have had way too many issues in the past.  Although it looks like nVidia finally listened after Linus ripped them
[20:39] <fartface> histo: That's kind of what I figured.
[20:39] <baphomet111> histo, because now my other laptop with an nvidia card runs super stable
[20:39] <bekks> fartface: Yes and no. Inside the vm it depends on the fs you are using, but the container file itself is stored on ZFS.
[20:39] <feeshon> MonkeyDust: Right but with rsync you would only get the difference and not be able to go back into different states of the file sets
[20:39] <baphomet111> before the DE would crash all the time due to the shitty drivers
[20:39] <karab44> so much traffic today evening here ;)
[20:40] <feeshon> rsnapshot allows you to keep "revisions" by utilizing hardlinks
[20:40] <histo> karab44: multiple versions ughh.  apt-get purge nvidia-common nvidia-304 nvidia-319
[20:40] <karab44> ;/
[20:40] <karab44> ok boss
[20:40] <bekks> fartface: How did you manage to use ZFS on linux?
[20:40] <feeshon> histo: However I am unsure as to how to only keep the last 5 months for examples
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> feeshon  if you want that, use btrfs, insteas of ext4   <-- i havent tried it myself, just read what it can do
[20:40] <histo> karab44: what nvidia card do you have?  lspci | grep VGA will show you.
[20:40] <fartface> I think the best way to keep the data integrity in check would be to mount the pool as a shared volume (either NFS, SMB, or AFP depending on the connecting client) and have it checked that way.
[20:40] <karab44> 570gtx
[20:40] <fartface> bekks: ubuntu-zfs package
[20:40] <Krystle_> msg baphomet111 thanks anyway
[20:40] <fartface> Works quite well actually.
[20:40] <histo> feeshon: you'd have to consult the documentation for rsnapshot most likley.
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> fartface, for just info there are #zfs and #zfsonlinux channels as well
[20:41] <karab44> histo: need more details or it's enough?
[20:41] <histo> karab44: lspci | grep VGA
[20:41] <karab44> pastebinit does not work on livecd so It's a bit unonvinient
[20:41] <vadi> How do I contact Ubuntu's "technical support" when I need to report a bug in Ubuntu - and it is very clear that it is a bug?
[20:41] <fartface> wilee-nilee: #zfs was +m (I wasn't able to send to channel), and wasn't sure if they'd be the best support for ZFS on Linux, didn't realize there was a dedicated ZoL channel, cheers!
[20:41] <feeshon> histo: Yea I looked into it but there is only a function for lazy_delete which isn't what I am looking for
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> !bug | vadi
[20:42] <histo> karab44: you can apt-get install pastebinit on your chroot
[20:42] <bekks> fartface: Ah, that linux FOSS implementation. And just mounting something will not enforce an integrity check. If you want the integrity being checked, use scrub.
[20:42] <histo> karab44: or just copy and paste the one liner here. for the lspci command
[20:42] <vadi> Yes, I have done that - and it says I have to go through "technical support" first before I can.
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> fartface, Might have to be registered with freenode
[20:42] <karab44> it's another physical machine
[20:42] <histo> feeshon: perhaps you need a different backup solution then.
[20:42] <fartface> bekks: Couldn't I setup a job to automatically scrub the data stored on the drive at scheduled intervals?
[20:42] <karab44> but it says not much, 570 GTX, rev 2 (rev. 1A)
[20:43] <bekks> fartface: Once a month, yes.
[20:43] <histo> feeshon: rsnapshot keeps a certain number of snapshots which is configurable.
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> feeshon  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs#Create_snapshots
[20:43] <fartface> Ah, that should be enough for my application (just a home server)
[20:43] <bekks> fartface: For a homeserver, scrub isnt necessary at all. :)
[20:44] <feeshon> histo: Where did you see that?
[20:44] <fartface> Well I'd like to ensure that my data stays as it should.
[20:44] <fartface> Even if it's a bit overkill.
[20:44] <bekks> fartface: Then backup your data.
[20:44] <feeshon> MonkeyDust: Yea that looks really good, I appreciate that info, I would have to migrate the data to a new file system in order to do so.
[20:44] <jjavaholic> I'm experiencing a never ending dim screen after accidently pressing sleep button on Keyboard how can I reverse this?
[20:44] <mamed> i am logging out to try unity 2d thanks guyz
[20:44] <histo> feeshon: on their website. You would probably have to just create another full backup after awhile and remove the previous one.
[20:44] <fartface> bekks: It's backed up as well.
[20:45] <bekks> fartface: Then you dont need scrubbing at all.
[20:45] <fartface> But one of the biggest draws for ZFS for me was the integrity checks to ensure that what's being backed up is what I intended to backup.
[20:45] <bekks> fartface: Look at zfs checksum=yes
[20:45] <bekks> fartface: You dont need regular scrubbing at home.
[20:45] <histo> yuck btrfs
[20:46] <fartface> Ah, right on!
[20:46] <histo> karab44: I believe you would use nvidia-current
[20:46] <histo> karab44: after your remove the others apt-get install nvidia-current and then try rebooting when that is done.
[20:46] <bekks> fartface: I am using Solaris with ZFS for my home server - but thats offtopic in here.
[20:49] <karab44> histo: I did apt-get purge but there a lot of permission denies, mostly /dev/null and /dev/random
[20:49] <karab44> I did pastebinit but don't know where it went :P
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> odd that you have permission issues on /dev/null unless you are chrooted or somthing.
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> feeshon  glad i could help
[20:51] <histo> karab44: dpkg -P packagename
[20:52] <histo> Dr_Willis: he is chroot'd
[20:52] <histo> didn't bind mount /dev or proc
[20:52] <jmeps3> Brasileiro On?
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> that would  explain the problem .;)
[20:52] <histo> karab44: just apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:52] <fartface> bekks: I had thought about going the openindiana route, but I was more comfortable in an ubuntu environment so ended up just going that route instead.  Seems to be good so far!
[20:53] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have 13.04 on a I7 4 core + HT;  seems like i have default issues with multithreading when file access is involved as soon as a disk copy or file extract/compress is started; all the gui/desktop becomes really slow
[20:54] <jmeps3> How to make array in C + +
[20:55] <bekks> fartface: The ZFS FOSS is quite unstable, untested, and has far less features as well as a lower zpool and zfs revision as Solaris.
[20:55] <ikonia> jmeps3: ask in ##c++
[20:55] <karab44> histo: what now, is it ok? reboot?
[20:55] <bekks> fartface: When using ZFS, frankly, I'd not use that FOSS stuff.
[20:55] <histo> karab44: yeah try it out
[20:55] <karab44> :P
[20:55] <karab44> hold on your butts
[20:56] <karab44> histo: You are the best!
[20:57] <karab44> It is working!
[20:57] <karab44> Thank you
[20:57] <histo> karab44: np
[20:57] <karab44> now I can break and fix it all the time
[20:57] <histo> karab44: pretty much just backup your ~
[20:59] <karab44> I was on the way, it was last step before backup and you know what then happened
[20:59] <histo> !backup | karab44
[21:00] <karab44> !cloning
[21:00] <karab44> I actually want to clone a whole system, like VM snapshot
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> clonezilla perhaps.
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> or go old-skool with dd. ;)
[21:02] <histo> karab44: tar or dd + gzip
[21:02] <karab44> ;d
[21:02] <histo> karab44: although clonezilla is a nifty little tool to have on your thumbdrive
[21:02] <s4h4n> Is there a way to reverse this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EZXceqY4hU
[21:03] <fartface> bekks: I realize it's a bit offtopic in here, but did you go to OpenSolaris from *nix or vice versa?  If so, how'd you find the learning curve?  Was it very difficult to pick up?
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> great thing about the *nix stuff. you learn the fundamental/core tools and they tend to work the same on all the *nix variants
[21:04] <SuperLag> Normally, I'd use an external display for this... but when I'm not docked, is there a way to "dock" a window to the left half of the screen, and one to the right?
[21:04] <karab44> I have clonezzila somewhere quite fresh copy
[21:04] <histo> s4h4n: reverse the video
[21:04] <histo> s4h4n: if you have ubuntu installed somehow to a dynamic disk you need to start over.
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  well with unity/compiz i can push a window the the right side. it goes 'half' the screen. I could then make it always on top/sticky so its always there.
[21:05] <histo> s4h4n: or copy the data out and put it on a real partition.
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  but not sure about making other apps 'not' go under it.
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  there might be some compiz window rules that could do it.
[21:05] <SuperLag> hmm...
[21:06] <SuperLag> Dr_Willis: and I'm using Xubuntu, so I'm not sure if it uses Compiz.
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  not by default
[21:06] <histo> s4h4n: and yes your could revert the change with any hex editor
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> You may want to look into 'devilspie'
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> i dont really see any 'dock' setting in the compiz windows rules plugin either.
[21:07] <s4h4n> how do i add a hex editor to a live usb??
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> I tend to tweak that plugin to make windows like the file copy dialog  alwyas be 'always on top, at the top right' and so forth
[21:08] <histo> s4h4n: apt-get install somepackage
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> s4h4n:  sudo apt-get install packagename will load it. (to ram) it will get lost on reboot
[21:08] <histo> s4h4n: or use the software center
[21:08] <histo> s4h4n: you're going to have a hell of a time finding that value though.
[21:09] <histo> s4h4n: I dont' believe windows creates dynamic disks in the partition table so who knows where it actually is on your disk.  Why do you assume that is the problem with your system?
[21:10] <karab44> histo: I am on 319-upd and it works great and got just back to original screen resolution. Once again thanks a lot thousand times!
[21:10] <histo> Aren't dynamic disks just m$ implementation of LVM?
[21:10] <histo> karab44: np anytime.
[21:12] <histo> s4h4n: What is the problem your are experiencing?
[21:15] <s4h4n> Thank you guys... See you tomorrow...
[21:16] <jonascj> does anyone know which services I need to restart to make rsyslog redirect log events? I have added lines to  /etc/rsyslog.d/iptables.conf and restarted rsyslog but nothing appears in the new logfile. Do I need to restart something else?
[21:20] <FleaFlicker> jonascj: service rsyslog restart
[21:20] <FleaFlicker> jonascj: as root, or sudo it
[21:23] <ElectricPrism> anyone here have comcast in california? I periodically have URLs that wont resolve like this one http://zazagallery.com/
[21:23] <ElectricPrism> can anyone who has comcast in california see if it loads for them
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[21:24] <histo> ElectricPrism: whois zazagallery.com and dig zazagallery.com should help you with some info
[21:24] <RoyK> tricks?
[21:25] <histo> !arabic | rruttur
[21:25] <FleaFlicker> ElectricPrism: you can also use mtr, should show you where the issue may lay
[21:25] <w30> ElectricPrism, perhaps you would have better sucess with open dns or google dns.
[21:26] <histo> ElectricPrism: or opendns
[21:26] <w30> ElectricPrism, my Illinois comcast got faster with Google dns
[21:26] <ElectricPrism> hmm
[21:27] <ElectricPrism> im going to note all those suggestions and try them, the stupid website went down about 14 hrs ago
[21:27] <ElectricPrism> its also located in europe
[21:27] <w30> ElectricPrism, what Google gets from me I don't know?
[21:27] <histo> ElectricPrism: there is also isitlive.net and stuff
[21:28] <ElectricPrism> awesome!
[21:28] <ElectricPrism> btw, how would i use GoogleDNS ?
[21:28] <ElectricPrism> I would need to configure my WAN?
[21:28] <histo> ElectricPrism: configure network manager to use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.6.6 as your nameservers
[21:28] <w30> ElectricPrism, these days there might be a more secure dns in the offering; anyone know of one?
[21:29] <histo> w30: opendns
[21:29] <w30> histo, better, eh?
[21:29] <ElectricPrism> Open DNS:  		208.67.222.222	208.67.220.220
[21:29] <ElectricPrism> Okay Ill try plugging in that info thanks :)
[21:31] <shk2> when booting with a dead SATA HDD connected in my desktop, I get a lot of errors after I passed Grub2. It seems Ubuntu (or Xubuntu...) will just insist on being able to read this disk on bootup. Is there a way to allow for a faulty HDD during boot time?
[21:31] <OE1> shk2: maybe you can disable automount
[21:33] <felon> maybe smash the hard drive with a hammer
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[21:34] <shk2> OE1: I am not sure if it has been mounted by the point the errors show up
[21:34] <shk2> an example:
[21:35] <shk2> "ata3.00: error: { UNC }"
[21:35] <shk2> right after Grub finished grubbing
[21:35] <shk2> felon: tried that, did not work
[21:37] <linkzor> Hey guys, I came here two days ago because I was having issues getting grub to load with my system with UEFI, but that problem is fixed now grub loads and I can pick ubuntu or windows 8. But sometimes on startup, it tells me something along the lines of http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=vo0vw4&s=6 about a problem with startup.nsh, any way to fix it?
[21:40] <OE1> shk2: well - i don't think i can help you much further then. 1) why do you want a faulty hdd in you pc? 2) if some1 can help he will surely ask for the logs - so try to get those
[21:40] <OE1> shk2: so you know what service is complaining
[21:40] <RoyK> hi
[21:41] <shk2> OE1: 1): to run ddrescue not through a USB adaptor
[21:41] <fission6> whats the easiest way to create  anew user and add them to sudo
[21:41] <fission6> for a newbox
[21:41] <shk2> 2): as the machine aparently does not boot, I will have to type it off the other screen, but I will do.
[21:42] <jrib> fission6: adduser fission; adduser fission sudo
[21:42] <fission6> nice
[21:43] <fission6> what above removing
[21:43] <jrib> fission6: deluser fission
[21:44] <linkzor> Hey guys, I came here two days ago because I was having issues getting grub to load with my system with UEFI, but that problem is fixed now grub loads and I can pick ubuntu or windows 8. But sometimes on startup, it tells me something along the lines of http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=vo0vw4&s=6 about a problem with startup.nsh, any way to fix it?
[21:44] <fission6> thanks
[21:44] <w30> fission6, check your /etc/sudoers  file. I believe if you make a user a member of admin then he gets sudo privedge
[21:44] <felon> its windows what you expect
[21:45] <felon> same shit different number
[21:45] <fission6> ok
[21:45] <w30> fission6, so it's simpler just to make your user a member of admin group if that's ok with your security
[21:46] <fission6> ok
[21:46] <fission6> i just did
[21:46] <fission6> adducer whatever sudo
[21:46] <OE1> shk2: well don't type it for me :P
[21:47] <OE1> shk2: did you check the boot order in bios?
[21:48] <shk2> OE1: yes, it is booting from the right drive
[21:48] <shk2> just having problems with the dysfunctional SATA HDD connected
[21:48] <shk2> couldn/t it just ignore it?!
[21:50] <felon> shk2: has it accured that your getting errors because your HDD is dysfunctional
[21:50] <felon> dissconnect it
[21:51] <linkzor> Hey guys, I came here two days ago because I was having issues getting grub to load with my system with UEFI, but that problem is fixed now grub loads and I can pick ubuntu or windows 8. But sometimes on startup, it tells me something along the lines of http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=vo0vw4&s=6 about a problem with startup.nsh, any way to fix it?
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[21:52] <awpti> No.
[21:52] <shk2> felon: yes, it is dysfunctional.... that is why I would like to use ddrescue on this *secondary* or even *tertiary* disk
[21:53] <shk2> disconnecting won't help much, I fear
[21:53] <felon> you have any jumpers?
[21:54] <guntbert> w30: wrong, the best solution is what already has been said
[21:55] <w30> guntbert, huh? whats that?
[21:57] <guntbert> w30: your idea about adding  auser to the admin group is wrong, the correct way is    adduser username sudo, which adds the user named   username to the group  sudo
[21:57] <guntbert> *a user
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[21:58] <Yu-Yu> Holy cow…
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> I though it was the admin group? or did they change that. ;) I never do it enough to rember.
[21:58] <linkzor> Dr_willis i got it to work, if you remember me
[21:59] <jrib> Dr_Willis: changed to "sudo" but admin is kept around so upgrades don't break
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> linkzor:  i can barely rember my own name half the time. ;)
[21:59] <jrib> Dr_Willis: I think admin is kept around anyway
[21:59] <guntbert> Dr_Willis: it *was* the admin group, *now* it is  sudo
[21:59] <chewyboy0> Hi
[21:59] <RoyK> for fucks sake - xenz posts a DoS for mac users
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> makes one wonder why they keep changeing.
[21:59] <Yu-Yu> xenz: I like your «lol» phrase segment.
[21:59] <chewyboy0> c
[21:59] <shk2> felon: was the jumer thing for me?
[21:59] <linkzor> Have you ever had the problem where at startup it tells you an error about startup.nsh? I can't find anything about it on google
[22:00] <felon> yes
[22:00] <lastkajen> Hi guys, im planning on switch up my OS on my main PC, can you give me a tip on the best ubuntu version for me. My specs are: processor: Intel i7 950, graphic cards: 2x Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 motherboard: Gigabyte
[22:01] <felon> shk2: yes
[22:01] <guntbert> !away | g_byers
[22:01]  * Yu-Yu does not think she can give lastkajen an advice.
[22:01] <RoyK> tror hu dama der er ganske lima
[22:02] <lastkajen> Yu-Yu ;(
[22:02] <Yu-Yu> lastkajen: Why didn't you try a live version, one by one?
[22:02] <shk2> ifelon: it has just some jumpers
[22:02] <guntbert> Yu-Yu: please keep your statements to Ubuntu support - the channel is already noisy enough
[22:02] <chewyboy0> Hi
[22:02] <shk2> according to the documentation merely to limit the transfer rate
[22:02] <Yu-Yu> Sure.
[22:03] <shk2> but it is booting 'kind of fine' from the master
[22:03] <shk2> just hanging up complaining that the slave is dysfunctional
[22:03] <chewyboy0> j
[22:03] <shk2> no problem when I hot-plugged that dive on the USB adaptor
[22:04] <felon> shk2: diskcheck, backup, reformat entire disk, reinstall-win8, reinstall ubuntu 13.04
[22:08] <w30> guntbert, ok I stand corrected. My sudoers file must be old school. I will have to get a new one.
[22:09] <guntbert> w30: no need, "admin" still suffices (if present)
[22:09] <shk2> felon: no win 8 on there, no iintention to get it on there
[22:09] <shk2> just would like to get all the pictures of my daughter from this disk
[22:10] <shk2> and still wonder why Ubuntu is not capable to ignore a broken, non-system SATA drive?!
[22:11] <jebb> im trying to set up openstack for testing using 12.04.3 dose it come installed on this version?
[22:11] <shk2> felon: and for the 'backup' part.... that is what I am trying to do.... kind of....
[22:11] <shk2> rather 'recovery'...
[22:12]  * Yu-Yu thinks she did not do much dmg to the talking. Huh.
[22:16] <linkzor> Anyone ever had problems with startup.nsh not loading or something on boot? Or atleast now how to fix it, have windows 8 with UEFI
[22:17] <ixio> with mysql, I need to allow remote access to a database.. I have changed mysql so it binds to 0.0.0.0... when I created the database I allowed access to user@localhost... do now also need to allow user@ (something) in addition to changing the binding ?
[22:17] <ixio> is there such a thing as user@* ?
[22:18] <ikonia> ixio: you need to grant permissions to user@host or user@% (not recommended)
[22:19] <ixio> so if the guy connecting is coming in from a dynamic IP address I need to do user@% ?
[22:19] <ixio> he assures me this is temporary
[22:19] <ikonia> ixio: I'd recommend against that VERY strongly, but yes
[22:19] <jrib> ixio: give him ssh access and let him tunnel in.
[22:19] <ixio> yeh, my last email to him was asking him to tunnel, waiting for response
[22:23] <Tiraspol> خ ̷̴̐خ
[22:34] <dark_lord> Hello, I have accidentally deleted an important zip file from my pc. How to recover it. I have tried to use scalpel, but it is showing output as "no file or directory"
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> dark_lord How long ago, and use of the hd?
[22:41] <junOO> Hello
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> dark_lord  photorec, select partition, file options, deselect all, then select zip only
[22:42] <junOO> running Maverick until I can afford a back up drive to back up files
[22:43] <junOO> I have a question about root user and file paths
[22:43] <daftykins> junOO: ouch, partition a /home in future ;)
[22:43] <Marlenee> any altrantive commmand to -  fg , screen , tmux
[22:43] <daftykins> junOO: just ask, on one line plz
[22:43] <jrib> Marlenee: why?
[22:43] <junOO> will do
[22:44] <junOO> Want to change username and all associated paths yet it allowed me to create a "username" that is displayed above my original name
[22:44] <jrib> Marlenee: what do you need to do exactly that none of those tools do?
[22:44] <jrib> junOO: what do you mean by "root user"?
[22:45] <jrib> !maverick | junOO
[22:45] <junOO> I want a new username which I want to be the root name andI would like to change all paths associated with name
[22:45] <jrib> junOO: what do you mean by "root name"...?
[22:45] <jrib> junOO: do you just want a user that can use sudo?
[22:45] <junOO> the main username, as I only have one acount I assume my username is the "root" name
[22:46] <jrib> junOO: no, root is a special account. It's not the same as your first user account.
[22:46] <junOO> got it
[22:46] <jrib> junOO: anyway, why not just make a new account with whatever name you want?  I strongly urge you to upgrade to a supported release though.  Maverick hasn't been supported for a long time (no security updates)
[22:46] <Marlenee> jrib: for run programmes in background even if the session closed
[22:47] <jrib> Marlenee: yeah, what's wrong with screen and tmux?
[22:47] <junOO> I tried to update several times but get many errors. I was advised to do fresh install
[22:47] <jrib> junOO: that should be your priority
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> Marlenee  byobu is a nice extra layer for screen
[22:47] <junOO> Unfortunately I believe you need to back up files to do a fresh install properly
[22:47] <daftykins> Marlenee: what's wrong with screen for that?
[22:48] <jrib> junOO: doing a fresh install shouldn't be the reason you have backups.  You should have backups for any data you care about.  If you don't have backups, you don't have data you care about
[22:48] <junOO> No excuses there, I should have backups
[22:49] <dark_lord> wilee-nilee, Around 2 hours ago.
[22:49] <doomlord> heh good nick
[22:51] <junOO> jrib: Anyway to upgrade with minimal losses?
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> dark_lord I would try the photorec as suggested, and start backing stuff up
[22:52] <Marlenee> MonkeyDust : byobu make my screen server sucks !
[22:52] <jrib> junOO: I would make backups first
[22:53] <jrib> !upgrade | junOO
[22:53] <dark_lord> wilee-nilee, photorec in ubuntu ? Is it any software ?
[22:53] <dark_lord> And yeah I am really upset I dont have bacup of it.
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> testdisk
[22:55] <junOO> backup suggestions in the cloud? No physical drives available. Under 10G
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> dark_lord http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[23:03] <Marlenee> can i search online in the repos for pkg
[23:04] <junOO> hello
[23:05] <junOO> quit
[23:09] <Dr_Willis>   hmmm
[23:15] <lonewulf85> !offtopic
[23:25] <map> can anyone lend a hand - having trouble getting wired or wireless on an old dell (pesky broadcom) ive been reading the forum but no luck
[23:26] <daftykins> wireless broadcom or both?
[23:26] <daftykins> which model?
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> map, You have seen the broadcom wiki?
[23:26] <map> both broadcom daftykins bcm4311 and bcm4401
[23:26] <daftykins> map: hang on i'll dig up the thread i solved some peoples 4311 troubles with the other day, 13.04 ?
[23:26] <map> i think so..i saw a lot of forum posts and for example - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2170728&highlight=BCM4311
[23:27] <map> i cant do the install as i have no connection (wired or wirless) could i use the ubuntu dvd to install from?
[23:27] <daftykins> sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[23:27] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[23:27] <daftykins> ^do those and reboot
[23:27] <map> i cant do the second though..it fails as i have no connection
[23:27] <daftykins> you could download the package manually
[23:27] <map> ah wouldn't it be on the dvd ?
[23:27] <map> i wondered if i could use the DVD as a repo instead of internet repo
[23:27] <daftykins> i don't think you can get packages off the DVD no
[23:28] <map> ok
[23:28] <map> hm
[23:28] <map> bit annoying having no net at all:)
[23:28] <daftykins> indeed
[23:28] <daftykins> still, those two solved two user's 4311 at the same time
[23:28] <daftykins> so you should be good to go after that
[23:28] <isasha> Hello
[23:29] <map> daftykins,  where could i get package then?
[23:29] <map> packages.ubuntu ah
[23:29] <rotham> hey.. will rm files/*/*.jpg just delete jpg's in subfolders under files/, or what?
[23:29] <isasha> I'm having an issue with fstab, I've tried to set it up so that my two additional hdd's mount on boot, however during booting it tells me that it cannot find the drives and asks me to skip or to mount manually
[23:29] <isasha> here is my fstab config: http://pastebin.com/LK5NjxuT
[23:30] <isasha> I have a suspicion that it could be related to the spaces in the end mount directory
[23:30] <isasha> any ideas?
[23:31] <jrib> rotham: what you said
[23:31] <dr_willis_> this is when a $10 usb wifi dongle that works out of the box is nice
[23:31] <rotham> k thx
[23:31] <daftykins> isasha: yes why have spaces?
[23:31] <jrib> rotham: only one level
[23:31] <daftykins> isasha: consider using the UUIDs as the fstab file recommends also
[23:31] <isasha> daftykins: well I set it up like that a long time ago
[23:32] <dr_willis_> spaces in fstab are weirdly done
[23:32] <rotham> jrib:  is there a way to do it with 1 command to delete all jpgs through multiple levels?
[23:32] <isasha> are you talking about the spaces in the mount point or in-between the different options?
[23:32] <daftykins> isasha: the mount point
[23:32] <isasha> huh
[23:32] <daftykins> DL2\ 160 is throwing it i bet
[23:32] <isasha> both are
[23:32] <daftykins> yep
[23:32] <daftykins> i just didn't type both :D
[23:32] <jrib> rotham: sure, you can use files/**/*.jpg (you may need to enable a bash option for this to work) or find.  I urge you to try to "ls" the files first before doing "rm" so you can check what it will delete
[23:33] <rotham> ok cool thank you
[23:33] <isasha> so how should I type it then?
[23:33] <CountryfiedLinux> How do you install Ubuntu on a tablet? Does it have a bios with a bootloader option? Can it be ran live so I can test the hardware first?
[23:35] <dr_willis_>  depends on the tablet CountryfiedLinux
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, There are a couple of tablet options one is touch and images of saucy=13.10 both i development #ubuntu-touch is there home.
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> in*
[23:35] <mapps> ok daftykins  ive got it now ran the purge cmd and then installed the .deb file followed by modprobe b43..i now have eth1 wired but no wireless:(
[23:35] <mapps> arghhh!
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> but depends on the tablet
[23:36] <daftykins> mapps: it was meant to be a reboot and there was no mention of probing modules (:
[23:36] <mapps> there was on that forum thread
[23:36] <mapps> and i have rebooted!
[23:36] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, The price of tablets now days makes rigging it to be a touchscreen laptop a great idea :) just need a bluetooth keyboard and portfolio case.
[23:37] <mapps> so now i have wlan0 and eth1 - but network manager isnt listing any networks? my network is visible from where i am
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, I like my nexus, but I run android waiting fir the developments with ubuntu to get a bit more, well developed.
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> nexus 7
[23:38] <mapps> ya i got a nexus7
[23:38] <mapps> nice tables dude
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> easu to root id needed
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> if
[23:38] <daftykins> mapps: this was the link itself: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880
[23:38] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, Is Gnome Shell touch ready?
[23:39] <isasha> daftykins: never mind, I figured it out: all I had to do was add 040 after the \
[23:39] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, It seems like the best option for tablets IMO
[23:39] <daftykins> isasha: where'd you get that idea? what does it look like now?
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, Not sure I had raring installed a bit rough on the touch a couple of months ago, may be better now, the tablet image is the regular desktop, I had lubuntu going as well.
[23:40] <isasha>  /dev/sdc1	/media/sasha/DL1\040300/	ext4	defaults	0	2
[23:40] <isasha> same for the other one
[23:40] <isasha> just rebooted, mounted automatically just fine
[23:40] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, touch worked ok in LXDE?
[23:41] <daftykins> isasha: i'd have just dropped the spaces myself XD
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, The touch in general was not perfect a while back, may be different now, no live images that I know off.
[23:42] <isasha> daftykins: I have over 150 torrents in rtorrent, I would have had to manually fix the filenames and it would have been a pain
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, The #ubuntu-touch channel is the best resource though
[23:42] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, Oh ok thanks bro
[23:42] <daftykins> isasha: ah, nice Linux distro collection. ok
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[23:43] <mapps> right
[23:44] <mapps> so ok done that rebooting now lets see
[23:44] <isasha> daftykins: no, I mostly have movies, tv shows, music and software seeding to private trackers. Best part is, it's totally legal where I live (well, at least the downloading part) :D
[23:45] <mapps> ok daftykins  both are listed wlan0 and eth1
[23:45] <mapps> but its not listing any wireless networks?
[23:47] <daftykins> isasha: please don't talk about that in here. i doubt it is either, but i don't want to enter into a discussion about it :)
[23:48] <daftykins> mapps: hrmm not sure i'm afraid, could be network manager having issues, try looking into resetting network manager's settings perhaps
[23:48] <mapps> ok thanks
[23:50] <histo> !broadcom | mapps
[23:58] <mapps> it says bits using b43 but i cant see any networks damnit;/