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happyaronyouker-assistant已经上传了。01:39
happyaron目前在 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+queue 等待ftp检查。01:39
happyaron这样就已经算是在ffe之前进去了,所以应该没什么问题。01:39
maclinthat's great! thanks aron:)01:47
happyaron /n07:36
happyaronypwong jzheng https://github.com/fcitx/fcitx/blob/master/COPYING.LIBS07:36
happyaronJackYu: ^^07:36
jzhenghappyaron, hmmm07:37
JackYu:)07:37
happyaronjzheng: :)07:37
happyaronjzheng: your nick name always hijack JackYu's, :P07:37
jzhenglol...07:37
ypwonghappyaron, man.. that's 5 months ago, dunno why sogou doesn't know that07:58
ypwonghappyaron, but I think fcitx should abstract even more functions into dbus so plugins do not need to use libfcitx07:59
happyaronypwong: that would be really slow to run an input method engin08:00
happyaronengine08:00
ypwongmay be08:01
happyarondbus is terribly slow in responsiveness08:01
ypwongheh08:01
ypwongcan only try08:02
happyaronypwong: well there is known weekness in UI responsiveness, and the reason is dbus...08:02
ypwongok, sounds like a dead-end :\08:03
maclinhappyaron,ping09:21
happyaronmaclin: pong09:21
happyaronmaclin: 我有点事情要暂时离开一下,能给我留言或者写邮件吗?09:23
maclin好的,现在ubuntu-release上讨论上次说的那个问题09:25
maclin现在定位是由于我们卸载了ibus导致gnome-session和gnome-settings-daemon包被卸载,现在需要考虑换一种方式实现fcitx的默认设置:)09:26
happyaronmaclin: 装libibus* 貌似就可以09:41
maclinhappyaron,那还要不要卸载ibus?09:42
maclin还是卸载后把libibus装上?09:42
smartboyhwypwong, you are a DD right?09:49
smartboyhw:P09:49
ypwongI was but resigned09:49
ypwongwhat's up09:49
smartboyhwypwong, resigned ==09:50
* smartboyhw wants somebody to sponsor some of his packages in mentors:P09:50
maclinhappyaron,如果不卸载ibus,是不是通过设置解决也可以?laney说可以通过im-config设置?09:50
ypwongmaclin, give it a try09:57
ypwongsmartboyhw, which package? I can help to ask somebody10:34
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smartboyhwypwong, no need then:P10:48
ypwongsmartboyhw, why?10:49
smartboyhwypwong, I don't want you to spend your time asking somebody else:P10:50
ypwongsmartboyhw, :)10:50
* ypwong is always happy to help10:50
happyaronypwong: 我觉得只要有libibus就行11:26
happyaronypwong: 因为g-s-d和g-c-c开--enable-ibus的时候要用到这个库来编译11:26
ypwonghappyaron, saucy 的 gnome-settings-daemon 现在依赖 ibus 了,所以 ubuntukylin 不能删掉 ibus11:48
* ypwong &11:48
happyaronypwong: 应该不是依赖ibus吧,如果直接依赖那就是bug了11:49
happyaronypwong: 依赖的应该是libibus11:49
happyaronypwong: 果然,这个依赖是他们硬写到d/control里的,估计是为了保证升级吧。实在ugly,bug伺候……12:07
ypwonghappyaron, 他们没你懂啊 :)13:47
happyaronypwong: 没有咋懂,我觉得seb128连之前加ibus依赖的时候也理解错那个人的意思了……13:48
ypwong难怪...13:49
happyaronypwong: seb128可能今天就会sponsor那俩包把ibus依赖处理了。14:04
happyaronmaclin: 收到邮件了?14:04
maclin晚上去三号院安排学生推进推荐机型的问题,刚回来14:05
happyarono14:05
maclin你是说seb128会搞定了?14:07
happyaronmaclin: 我和他谈了并且发了debdiff,他一会儿就传。14:07
happyaronhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/121834214:08
maclin那太好了,不然这个问题就大了,开始还一直以为是ubuntu也存在的问题...14:09
maclin这两个包的依赖问题jbicha说很早就讨论了,确实不太理解为啥会让他们依赖ibus啊14:11
happyaron其实jbicha的意见是觉得不需要依赖ibus,但是seb128觉得既然是开了集成就最好加上,然后就混乱了……14:12
maclin难怪。之前讨论的邮件没关注上这个问题,没想到会对这个有影响,看来以后需要及时关注14:15
maclin那现在我们这一块不需要专门再做什么处理了吧?14:16
happyaron要看一下生成iso的时候,会不会把Recommends的包也装上14:17
happyaronibus是从Depends搬到Recommends了14:17
maclin恩,如果Recommends包装上就肯定没问题对吧?要不要我们再考虑后备方案?14:21
happyaronrecommends装了的话,就会导致iso里有ibus……14:22
smartboyhwSuggests?14:23
happyaronsmartboyhw: seb128 不同意 :)14:24
happyaron我也木有办法14:24
smartboyhwhappyaron, sigh14:24
maclin那默认的还是fcitx吧?14:25
happyaronsmartboyhw: 总比写死依赖好得多了。14:25
happyaronmaclin: y14:25
happyaronmaclin: 所以要关注一下iso里如何能默认用fcitx且不把ibus拖进来。14:25
happyaronlibibus是必须装的,但ibus*不需要。14:25
smartboyhwhappyaron, wait, I thought ${shlib:Depends} will only install libibus14:27
smartboyhwUm, delete "only"14:27
smartboyhwI mean, it won't install ibus itself14:27
happyaronsmartboyhw: ibus (> 1.5.0) was hand coded in d/control14:28
happyaron>= 1.5.014:28
smartboyhwhappyaron, then delete it14:28
happyaronsmartboyhw: it is what going to happen.14:29
ypwonghappyaron, 除了 g-s-d, g-c-c 也会处理吗?14:55
happyaronypwong: 是的,俩都会处理。14:57
ypwongthank14:57
ypwongs14:57
maclingnome-session是不是由这两个附带处理了?14:58
maclin刚想起来,我测试时发现gnoem-session这个包也被卸载了14:58
happyaronmaclin: 因为gnome-session 依赖g-s-d14:59
maclin恩,明白了,那就等着明天早上的ISO测试了:)15:00
happyaronmaclin: g-c-c还没upload,g-s-d已经publish15:04
JackYu哦,我看seb128还在忙着主持session15:06
happyaron15:06
JackYubug #121826316:31
JackYuhappyaron, hi16:43
JackYuhappyaron, ypwong, I sent a email to you. Hope we can  upgrade these packages before feature freeze.16:44

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