[07:44] <ikonia> that doesn't seem right
[07:50] <IdleOne> I don't think it is
[11:58] <ikonia> @mark #kubuntu eur33r problem in #ubuntu - kicked, being purposfully impossible to help in #kubuntu after being banned from #ubuntu
[13:11] <Myrtti> he's acting ok in -fi, which is a bit surprising
[17:29] <ikonia> johnjohn101 possible syko also
[17:30] <ikonia> ident = richards (he's been using richardstallman) and on a vpn account/provider he's used before
[17:30] <ikonia> and just joined after his other account was kicked from #freenode
[17:43] <ikonia> another account for syko = turblance,
[17:43] <ikonia> all registered on freenode
[17:46] <ikonia> turbulence sorry
[17:57] <kloeri> that's not syko
[17:57] <ikonia> it is
[17:57] <ikonia> he confirmed it to me
[17:57] <kloeri> nope
[17:57] <ikonia> lancer/syko/stein/any_one_of_his_mental_accounts
[17:57] <kloeri> it's cholby
[17:58] <ikonia> then in that case they are the same person/thing
[17:58] <kloeri> and yeah, he'll probably confirm any shit you ask him to
[17:58] <ikonia> as he quoted past incidents that I hadn't mentioned before
[17:58] <kloeri> nope but believe that if you like
[17:58] <ikonia> well, I can only go by the info he's given me, if that's wrong, then he's got very lucky quoting things
[17:59] <ikonia> kloeri: is there no corolation between them at all ?
[17:59] <kloeri> I'm quite certain they're different people
[18:00] <kloeri> both idiots but different idiots
[18:00] <Flannel> Hooray for paranoia and witch hunts!
[18:00] <ikonia> they must have got very lucky with the quotes they gave me then, which just seemed very unlikley
[18:01] <kloeri> turbulence == cholby has been known ever since he created that account (along with another ~70 accounts of his or whatever the current count is)
[18:01] <ikonia> 70 !!!!
[18:02]  * kloeri shrugs
[18:03] <Pici> cholby is problems
[18:03] <ikonia> he must have just got very lucky with his wording then
[18:03] <kloeri> he's just a very persistent guy with lots of psychological problems
[18:04] <kloeri> who's not helping himself by also being a drug addict, an alcoholoc and so on
[18:04] <ikonia> oh, so you seem to know a pretty big picture on him then
[18:05] <kloeri> yes, I've been talking to him and hearing about him for years
[18:05] <ikonia> fair enough
[18:32] <ikonia> sadly, all grown out of now
[18:45] <ikonia> I have placed 15 gags on the ubottu host - you have 2 hours to find them
 I need in neuroprogrammer on my ubuntu
[20:21] <genii> Bah, again?
[20:34] <IdleOne> no
[20:34] <IdleOne> the bots are not synced
[20:35] <IdleOne> maybe restarting them?
[20:56] <hotmedal> I'm somehow banned in #ubuntu. Haven't been there in a month
[20:58] <IdleOne> syko again
[20:58] <IdleOne> you should know by now the ban will not be removed. Have a good day.
[20:59] <hotmedal> why not
[20:59] <hotmedal> who is syko
[21:03] <IdleOne> simply because you are a constant problem in #ubuntu
[21:04] <hotmedal> but I haven't been there in a month and I don't remember departing on less than friendly terms
[21:14] <hotmedal> come on! am I going to get anything other than false accusation here?
[21:14] <hotmedal> or is there some other channel that deals with these issues?
[21:28] <AlanBell> hotmedal: what nick were you using at that time?
[21:28] <hotmedal> this same nick
[21:35] <IdleOne> hotmedal: I'm going to remove the ban, we may have ,mistaken you for someone else.
[21:35] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[21:35] <IdleOne> all the same I would like you to read the guidelines so we can avoid any problems in the future
[21:36] <hotmedal> thanks, I'll do it once I get my gnome back
[21:36] <IdleOne> you should be able to join now
[21:37] <AlanBell> hotmedal: I would recommend you get a cloak, you can ask for one in #freenode
[21:37] <hotmedal> I'm pretty much an IRC noob, no idea what a cloak is, but I'l look into it
[21:37] <hotmedal> and yes, I can join now
[21:38] <IdleOne> !cloak
[21:38] <IdleOne> you want the unaffiliated one
[21:38] <AlanBell> ok, a cloak means you log on to freenode with a password, then bans on IP address ranges won't pick you up by accident
[21:38] <hotmedal> oh, ok
[21:42] <IdleOne> hotmedal: if there is nothing else please part this channel.
[21:43] <hotmedal> I just need to keep these links here until I get the gui back
[21:44] <hotmedal> thanks and bye
[22:30] <holstein> Flannel: no need... im going to thin it out a bit anyways.. but nothing i said was against the COC
[22:30] <holstein> and, i welcome you to disagree, and "set the record straight" so to speak, if you disagree with me, at anytime
[22:31] <Flannel> holstein: IRC Guidelines, "When helping, be helpful."  Telling someone summarily to disable their hardware after software makes it not work is not helpful.
[22:33] <holstein> Flannel: and, you are welcome to share that with the user.. i think a fingerprint reader, as another user who was *not* reprimanded had imlied, is *not* a key piece of hardware.. and may never be supported properly
[22:33] <holstein> implied*
[22:33] <holstein> again, i welcome you to point out to any user at any time if you disagee.. but, my intentions were meant to be constructive
[22:33] <Flannel> holstein: I don't understand how if it was supported, say, a month ago, but then stops working properly, you can claim it "may never be supported" in good faith
[22:34] <holstein> Flannel: maybe i hadnt read that far back in the scroll?
[22:34] <holstein> Flannel: there are many reasons i might have suggested that. but, i have a record of being generally helpful and constructive, even with the most challenging of support cases
[22:35] <Flannel> holstein: That's fair, but yet, I pointed that fact out to you a few times already.
[22:35] <holstein> the logs are public and logged.. but, if you feel that.. thats fine.. and again, i welcome you to disagree
[22:35] <holstein> Flannel: sure. and i didnt disagre with you in channel
[22:35] <holstein> Flannel: we were in OT where you instigated the exchange
[22:36] <Flannel> holstein: I know, and then halfway through that, you went back to #ubuntu to tell him to contact his manufacturer for support
[22:36] <holstein> Flannel: i did.. and ideally, they would
[22:37] <Flannel> Except, it worked [yesterday], so it's a software issue, not a hardware one.
[22:37] <Flannel> and now I've told you this a few + 1 times.
[22:37] <holstein> Flannel: otherwise, i hadnt read back far enough to say that it could have been a kernel regression.. i thought it was that the hardware was never going to work
[22:38] <holstein> Flannel: and, i felt attacked by what you had said to me.. because, what you had said to me was arguably constructive.. and i likely took that personal.. and i am allowed to.. and i dont feel that i took that out in the #ubuntu channel on that user
[22:38] <Flannel> yet you're still claiming they should contact their hardware vendor?
[22:38] <holstein> Flannel: but, as i said, i need to think it out. and im out of that channel
[22:38] <Flannel> holstein: You just did it six lines ago
[22:38] <holstein> Flannel: so, agree to disagree? and you are, as i said, always welcome to state to a user that i am wrong
[22:39] <holstein> Flannel: OK.. thanks for your time
[22:43] <Flannel> well, that went poorly.
[23:03] <IdleOne> Only because you are welcome to disagree, but that doesn't mean I will consider your opinion.
[23:07] <Flannel> Nah, some of it was my fault.  I shouldn't have asked him in here until I wasn't distracted.