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ali1234how are indicators started?01:45
ali1234eg /usr/lib/indicator-messages/indicator-messages-service01:45
ali1234what runs this, and how?01:46
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tsdgeosmzanetti: so what's the attitude towards the "more stable" branch?07:27
tsdgeosis it really more stable?07:27
tsdgeosi see a few fails07:27
tsdgeosbut not sure if in the area it was trying to stabilize07:27
tsdgeospstolowski: pong?07:33
mzanettitsdgeos: it makes things slightly better... give me more time with that08:00
tsdgeosoka08:00
mzanettitsdgeos: and if you manage to reproduce this somehow... https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-saucy/2789/artifact/unity8.shell.tests.test_notifications.EphemeralNotificationsTests.test_summary_and_body%20%28Desktop%20Nexus%204%29.ogv08:03
tsdgeoslol08:05
tsdgeosthe thing got stuck?08:05
asachi08:10
asacso we see unity8 looping on CPU regularly in automation08:10
asaclike here:08:10
asachttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-touch-mako-smoke-camera-app-autopilot/85/artifact/clientlogs/top_before.log/*view*/08:10
asacthats after boot, before we run the camera autopilot08:10
mzanettiasac: you sure this is not still during the startup phase?08:17
asacmzanetti: pretty sure08:18
asacwe wait 10 minutes :)08:18
asacor something08:18
mzanettiah ok.08:18
mzanettihmm... I'll see if I can reproduce08:18
asacmzanetti: seems to happen on every 4th boot in average08:18
asacfrom the looks08:19
asaceven less08:19
asacbut i see it reliably at least once for every image08:19
mzanettihmpf... I hate those.. but ok. will check08:19
asacmzanetti: yeah i dont expect a short term fix08:19
asacjust if something is known to have changed thats cool08:19
asacand we could nail it before it gets old08:19
asacmzanetti: we could give you better logs during the top if that helps08:20
mzanettiasac: well, unity8.log wouldn't hurt for sure, but I'm not sure if we will actually see anything there. but we can try08:24
asaclet me see08:26
asacwhere is that log?08:26
mzanetti~/.cache/upstart/08:26
asacmaybe the whole ~/.cache/upstart/08:27
asacwould be good then08:27
asacto get as artifacts like: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3833/camera-app-autopilot/08:27
asacguess we want to wipe all .cache on every reboot though08:27
mzanettiasac: yeah... if it's not too big in size it would actually be good to attach it to test reports08:27
asacyeah lets do that ... cool08:27
mzanettiyeah... wipe it on reboot08:27
asacunless this comes back all the time, i will ping you once we have that info and see the problem again08:27
asacso dont bother :)08:27
asacthanks08:27
asacmzanetti: /home/phablet/.cache/upstart ?08:30
mzanettiasac: yeah. that should hold a unity8.log (and some rotated ones too if you never wiped it)08:30
nic-doffaytsdgeos, mzanetti any of you guys done a mouse test with a ListView before?08:30
tsdgeosnic-doffay: yeah, what's up?08:31
mzanetti:D08:31
mzanettitsdgeos has done like a bazillion of those :D08:31
nic-doffaymzanetti, HAHA08:31
nic-doffaytsdgeos, I'm trying to test a signal trigger, but it doesn't appear the mouseEvent is being triggered.08:31
tsdgeosyou're clicking? moving? or what?08:32
nic-doffaytsdgeos, clicking.08:32
nic-doffaytsdgeos, and moving08:32
tsdgeosi'd have to see the test08:33
tsdgeosmoving is tricky08:33
tsdgeosand we have a helper for that08:33
nic-doffaytsdgeos, pastebinning it...08:33
tsdgeossince flickable doesn't detect a single move as a move08:33
tsdgeosclicking should be relatively straightfoward afair08:33
nic-doffaytsdgeos, here's the example: https://pastebin.canonical.com/96624/08:38
nic-doffayfindChild finds the ListView with the objectname listView.08:38
tsdgeosnic-doffay: hmmm08:40
tsdgeosnow that i think08:41
tsdgeosi don't think you can click on the list08:41
tsdgeosi mean you can click on the list08:41
tsdgeosbut it won't be passed to the delegate08:41
tsdgeosor maybe i'm wrong08:41
tsdgeosbut rings a bell08:41
tsdgeosnic-doffay: can you try to find the listview children and click on it?08:41
nic-doffaytsdgeos, I'll give it a try.08:44
nic-doffaytsdgeos, surely you could just click the ListView though?08:44
tsdgeosnot sure08:45
tsdgeosat least i do remember you can't do that in pure QWidgets08:45
tsdgeosyou have to click the listview inner widget08:45
tsdgeoswhich is the one that contains all the crap08:45
tsdgeosif you click the outer widget the fake-event gets delivered wrongly08:46
tsdgeosof course that doesn't apply to QtQuick08:46
tsdgeosbut i fear something like that may be appening08:46
tsdgeosi.e. when you click with your mouse08:46
tsdgeosyou don't click on the listview08:46
tsdgeosyou click on the window and then there's some magic that decides where to really deliver the mouse click08:46
tsdgeosand i would understand if that wasn't the listview itself08:47
tsdgeosso the listview is never really clicked by anyone08:47
tsdgeosunless you in the test :D08:47
tsdgeosthis is all speculation of course, i may be wrong08:47
tsdgeoslet's call it "informed speculation" :D08:48
nic-doffaytsdgeos, sounds like a reasonable train of thought :P08:50
nic-doffaytsdgeos, trying it on the currentItem instead (which isn't null) still not getting the signal which is triggered onClicked.09:04
tsdgeosnic-doffay: can you put at console.log in the qml code of the mousearea of the delegate to make sure the click is happening or not?09:05
tsdgeosand not that let's say the signal is not being delivered or something09:06
nic-doffaytsdgeos, it's not being clicked at all.09:15
nic-doffayJust confirmed that at least.09:15
tsdgeosnic-doffay: can you confirm that if you manually click it works?09:16
tsdgeosi.e. add a sleep and go there while the test is running and click09:16
nic-doffaytsdgeos, yeah confirmed that already.09:17
nic-doffaytsdgeos, not in the test though.09:18
nic-doffayI've test it externally in another qmlscene09:18
tsdgeosnic-doffay: ok, if you push it to a branch i'll add it to my queue of things to look at09:18
tsdgeoscan't think of anything else without a closer look09:19
nic-doffaytsdgeos, here's the branch: lp:~nicolas-doffay/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/list-item-option-selector09:29
nic-doffayLet me know when you're able to have a look at it and I'll give you more info.09:30
larsudednick: Hi! How is the messaging menu port to unitymenumodel coming along? There are some bugs in it...09:43
dednicklarsu: cant go until we have UnityMenuAction in qmenumodel09:43
dednicklarsu: otherwise it's pretty much ready for business09:44
larsudednick: nice! I'll look at your patch right away then :)09:44
larsudednick: thanks! Approved09:49
dednicklarsu: cool. i'll get the messaging up for MP today09:50
larsudednick: nice, thanks. Hopefully that'll solve bfillers bugs :)09:51
nic-doffaypstolowski, ping09:56
pstolowskinic-doffay: pong09:59
nic-doffaypstolowski, did you get that branch merged yesterday?09:59
pstolowskinic-doffay: nope, it needs a review10:00
pstolowskibtw, https://code.launchpad.net/~stolowski/unity8/all-filter-option/+merge/182659 if anyone has a moment ;)10:00
nic-doffaypstolowski, on it.10:01
nic-doffaypstolowski, mind reviewing my filters MP?10:01
pstolowskinic-doffay: hmm, I'm really not much into qml10:02
nic-doffaypstolowski, perhaps a functional review then?10:02
pstolowskinic-doffay: sure, that I can do, np10:02
nic-doffaypstolowski, wicked ta10:02
pstolowskinic-doffay: where is your branch?10:02
pstolowskinic-doffay: or it's still the same (filter-selector)?10:03
nic-doffaypstolowski, one and the same10:03
pstolowskinic-doffay: ok, thanks10:03
* greyback moving to office to find better wifi10:13
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tsdgeosnic-doffay: ok, what do i do with your branch?10:29
nic-doffaytsdgeos, from root10:30
nic-doffayqmake10:30
nic-doffaymake10:30
nic-doffaythen make test10:30
nic-doffayThat will show you which test is failing.10:32
tsdgeosnic-doffay: hmmm10:35
tsdgeosthe only fail i can find is10:35
tsdgeosFAIL!  : components::TextFieldAPI::test_0_contentHeight() contentHeight by default10:35
tsdgeosthat's not the one i'm guessing :D10:35
nic-doffaytsdgeos, try make test again.10:35
nic-doffaySometime random tests fail.10:35
tsdgeosnic-doffay: same10:36
tsdgeosit runs them all10:36
tsdgeosthat's the only one that fails10:36
tsdgeoscan you just tell me the name of your test?10:36
mzanettidednick: is it on purpose that the network indicator doesn't have the mobile data checkbox any more?10:37
dednickmzanetti: not sure. you'll need to ask tedg.10:38
nic-doffaytsdgeos, yeah sure.10:40
nic-doffaytsdgeos, /tests/unit_x11/tst_components/tst_itemselector.qml10:41
dednickmzanetti: it's not in the spec, so i guess so.10:41
mzanettidednick: will there be a separate page for mobile network stuff where this is in?10:41
dednickmzanetti: i think it will be in 'cellular settings'10:42
mzanettidednick: ah ok. cool. thanks10:42
tsdgeosnic-doffay: tsdgeos_work@xps:~/phablet/list-item-option-selector$ find -name tst_itemselector.qml10:45
tsdgeostsdgeos_work@xps:~/phablet/list-item-option-selector$10:45
tsdgeosin bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nicolas-doffay/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/list-item-option-selector/10:45
tsdgeosrev 65810:45
seb128mzanetti, what "stuff"?10:47
nic-doffaytsdgeos, ls in the dir to confirm it's not there...10:47
mzanettiseb128: the enable/disable mobile data.10:48
tsdgeosnic-doffay: tsdgeos_work@xps:~/phablet/list-item-option-selector$ ls tests/unit_x11/tst_components/tst_i*10:48
tsdgeostests/unit_x11/tst_components/tst_inversemousearea.qml10:48
nic-doffaytsdgeos, it's not in the branch, you're right. Weird, let me try readd.10:48
mzanettidednick: did you mean cellular settings in the settings app or will there be a indicator tab called like this?10:48
dednickmzanetti: settings app10:49
dednickthere is a link to it at the bottom of the indicator page, but it's not connected up yet10:49
seb128mzanetti, dednick: it should already be in there10:49
nic-doffaytsdgeos, ok added this time, must have been an issue with bzr explorer.10:49
mzanettidednick: we also need some indicator for cellular stuff though... for example "SIM locked. Tap here to enter PIN" or something like that10:49
nic-doffayif you pull they should be there.10:49
nic-doffaytsdgeos, confirmed: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nicolas-doffay/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/list-item-option-selector/files/head:/tests/unit_x11/tst_components/10:50
nic-doffayrev 65910:50
dednickmzanetti: there is no design for sep cellular page at the moment.10:51
mzanettidednick: last time I talked to design about this they confirmed that we will have such a thing.10:51
mzanettidednick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/118505610:53
ubot5Launchpad bug 1185056 in Ubuntu UX "phone signal indicator" [Undecided,New]10:53
dednickmzanetti: there is a cellular icon on the network indicator. but the multi-icon support hasnt landed for unty8. tsdgeos <10:55
tsdgeosmzanetti: if you have time for it10:55
tsdgeosit'd be awesome if you can have a look10:55
mzanettiI see... so it's only a separate icon for the network indicator tab10:55
mzanettitsdgeos: is there already some branch or anything?10:55
tsdgeosmzanetti: dednick's10:56
dednickmzanetti: i think the pages are intended to hold all "network" related things.10:56
dednickmzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/indicator.multi-icon/+merge/18186210:56
dednicks/pages/network page10:56
dednickincluding SIM lock/No SIM, as theres also a label for that next to the network icon.10:57
dednickmzanetti: ok, just reading the spec now. "If the SIM is locked, the “Network” menu should include an “Unlock SIM…” item immediately before “Cellular settings…”"10:59
dednickmzanetti: although i guess that's not finished as we dont have any system dialogs.10:59
mzanettidednick: ok... yeah. I don't need it urgently... There's still a lot to do in the background for the SIM pin stuff. I was just checking if everything fits together11:04
dednickmzanetti: it should just go when the background stuff is finished. dont think there's any work for unity811:05
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mzanettidednick: well, the greeter and unity need to talk to the indicator service to check that value.11:06
tsdgeosnic-doffay: is this your test? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6043795/11:46
nic-doffaytsdgeos, that's correct but test_delegate_clicked_signal isn't being run for some reason.11:48
nic-doffaywhich is the offender.11:48
nic-doffaytsdgeos, judging by your pastebin at least.11:49
tsdgeoshmmm11:50
tsdgeosthere is ./tests/unit/tst_components/tst_listitems_itemselector.qml and ./tests/unit_x11/tst_components/tst_itemselector.qml11:50
tsdgeosis that ok?11:50
tsdgeoslunch!11:51
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mzanettigreyback: do you know whom I need to talk to for info about click packages?12:02
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greybackmzanetti: jdstrand good person to talk to12:05
mzanettigreyback: thanks12:05
greybackunity8 with qt5.1 still flickering after reboot for me, trying another dist-upgrade and reboot12:06
nic-doffaytsdgeos, yeah for now.12:15
nic-doffaytsdgeos, itemselector is the one you're after though.12:15
* greyback rebooting12:17
greybackMirv: hey, having dist-upgraded, rebooted and tried qt5.1 with and without xmir, I still see the flickering on rendering. It's weird, we have the same graphics chip, why do I have problems?12:24
larsuhm, no boiko today?12:42
seb128larsu, it's ~9am for him and it's friday, maybe he's not an early morning guy12:43
larsuseb128: that makes sense :) I'll try to catch him later today12:44
Mirvgreyback: now on X11 (I broke my XMir today) I see it! and I'm not sure how it'd be with the new XMir multimonitor and composite bypass that came yesterday/today - how I ran it was with XMir and the old style mirror-mode (that wasn't slow, but no longer available) - maybe it does some syncing that doesn't happen here12:51
greybackMirv: hmm, ok. I'm currently using XMir. I tried both Compiz and Metacity, same problem. I can try rebooting into non-xmir?12:52
Mirvgreyback: re-read (if I'm not reading wrongly:) - so on "old" XMir I didn't have it, now on X11 I do have the flicker12:53
greybackMirv: okay. So we're finding it with both Xmir and without it. Maybe mesa or driver change?12:54
tsdgeosnic-doffay: something's not cool13:01
tsdgeosnic-doffay:13:01
tsdgeosfile:///home/tsdgeos_work/phablet/list-item-option-selector/tests/unit_x11/tst_components/tst_itemselector.qml:32:10: ListItem.ItemSelector is not a type13:01
tsdgeos              ListItem.ItemSelector {13:01
tsdgeos              ^13:01
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tsdgeosok13:03
tsdgeosnow13:03
tsdgeosgot it to run13:03
tsdgeosnic-doffay: dude, i just added a wait(10000); to your test13:05
tsdgeosand it's a empty white window13:05
tsdgeoswhere am i supposed to click?13:05
Mirvgreyback: maybe, it's hard to say but it was sure there was no flicker earlier this week with earlier XMir with my "dummy" mirrored display setup13:13
Mirvhehe, earlier this week, I mean I guess this was yesterday we talked?-)13:13
greybackMirv: correct :)13:14
Mirvthe days are tiny bit long13:14
greybackI wish I had that complaint13:14
tsdgeosmzanetti: have you had time to have a look dednicks' branch or should i?13:14
nic-doffaytsdgeos, yeah I just saw that after adding a wait too.13:22
mzanettitsdgeos: no, I didn't13:27
tsdgeosmzanetti: ok13:27
kgunntsdgeos: mzanetti nic-doffay dednick dandrader paulliu ....just a heads up forgot to mention  its a holiday in US on monday (so no mterry racarr kdub or kgunn)13:40
kgunngreyback: ^13:40
tsdgeosoki13:40
mterryLabor Day13:41
nic-doffaykgunn, mterry enjoy!13:41
tsdgeosit's always cool how the "work day" is a holiday :D13:41
greybackkgunn: noted, thank you13:41
dandraderkgunn,  ok, enjoy your long weekend!13:42
dandraderfunny that's it's no on May 1st...13:44
tsdgeosdandrader: if you read the wikipedia it explains it is because 1st may is associated with commies :D13:46
dandradertsdgeos, yeah, I was reading that page :)13:47
boikolarsu: hi13:47
larsuboiko: good morning!13:48
boikolarsu: morning! :)13:48
larsuboiko: I'm having trouble reproducing bug #1217676 and I was wondering if it could be a problem in the phone app13:49
ubot5bug 1217676 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu) "performing action on menu incorrectly clears and reloads menu" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121767613:49
larsuboiko: can you reproduce it? Or is there a way to insert fake messages into telephony-service?13:49
boikolarsu: ah, that bug is not on indicators, it is on my side, can you set the project to affect telephony-service and reassign it to me?13:50
tsdgeospaulliu: seen the CI branch of the movie thing just failed?13:50
larsuboiko: oh, you already know it. Awesome!!13:50
boikolarsu: yeah, it was a limitation on the previous implementation, but that doesn't happen anymore13:51
paulliutsdgeos: let me check.13:51
larsuboiko: ah, cool. Will assign to you. Happy Friday :)13:52
* larsu feels a bit bad wishing boiko a happy Friday after assigning a bug to him13:52
boikolarsu: haha, well, it is a bug I can already close, so you are fine :)13:53
boikolarsu: happy friday for you too! ;)13:53
larsuboiko: thanks :)13:53
paulliutsdgeos: /tmp/buildd/unity8-7.81.3+13.10.20130829.2/Dash/Movie/MoviePreview.qml:18,1: module "QtMultimedia" is not installed13:56
paulliutsdgeos: Maybe I need to modify the debian/control for B-D.13:56
tsdgeosok, do it then :-)13:56
mterrymzanetti, is there a way to tell libusermetrics not to show any user-private info?  (is it all user-private?)13:57
mzanettimterry: I have no clue about libusermetrics. pete-woods1 might be able to answer that I guess13:58
mterrymzanetti, oh sorry, I don't know why I misremembered your involvement  :)13:58
mterrypete-woods1, same question to you : )13:58
mzanettimterry: in the greeter session, can I access dconf to read default values?14:01
mzanettimterry: as they should be the same for all users I would assume that should work... even if we read defaults for user lightdm14:02
pete-woods1mterry: as in stuff like, battery usage, etc?14:02
mterrymzanetti, yeah14:02
mterrymzanetti, you're not using dconf directly are you?  via gsettings right?14:03
mzanettimterry: gsettings-qt, yes14:03
mterrypete-woods1, yeah or how many calls or something.  There's a privacy setting that says "don't show stats for me in welcome screen" or something14:03
mterrypete-woods1, I'm looking at how to implement it14:03
pete-woods1mterry: I could certainly make it read the "don't collect info about me" setting?14:04
pete-woods1mterry: that way it would never even get into the service, and i.e. stopped at the input API level14:05
mterrypete-woods1, well no...  I bet it should be on output side, since if user switches this button after a month, they don't want to reveal the past month either14:07
pete-woods1mterry: okay, is this a systemwide setting, or a user setting?14:10
pete-woods1and would the sort of user who turns that on, also want the collected data removing?14:11
mterrypete-woods1, a user setting stored in AS so the greeter can know per-user who has it on14:11
mterrypete-woods1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone14:12
mterrypete-woods1, the setting only talks about showing stats on welcome screen14:12
mterrypete-woods1, maybe the stats could be useful elsewhere?14:12
mterryso we shouldn't just kill them...14:12
mterrypete-woods1, plus...  if they user turns off the setting in a week, they might want the back dtaa14:12
pete-woods1mterry: okay, well I don't have strong feelings either way there14:13
pete-woods1mterry: do you want me to get the infographics output API to read that setting, then? and hide all the user-specific data?14:13
mterrypete-woods1, well, libusermetricsoutput doesn't know if it's in welcome screen or not.  Maybe just add a set_show_private_info(bool) method or something to the api?14:14
pete-woods1mterry: that sounds like a sensible solution14:14
mterrypete-woods1, what sort of data is collected that isn't private?14:15
mterrypete-woods1, or is this just a way to say "turn off entirely"?14:15
pete-woods1mterry: well at the minute, there's only the camera app, for some reason I haven't had the go ahead to advertise the input API14:15
pete-woods1so in reality it's just the "videos recorded" and "photos" captured that would dissapear14:16
mterrypete-woods1, well there's no way to mark anything in the input API as "private" or not, eh?14:16
mterrypete-woods1, and the output library doesn't have sources of data besides the input API?14:16
mterryi.e. everything collected is presumed private...14:17
ESphynxhey guys... I keep getting random behavior regarding frame_extents and ConfigureNotify14:17
ESphynxno matter how hard I try to fix the toolkit, when I think it's all working, the weirdest behavior happens14:17
pete-woods1mterry: indeed, there was no distinction between a user's different data sources, I figured anything about a particular user was "private"14:17
pete-woods1mterry: some point soon, I'd really like to take the time to connect it to upower, etc for system-type data14:18
pete-woods1which, I *think* is perhaps what's meant by non-private?14:18
mterrypete-woods1, probably.  OK.  So there is theoretically room for non-private data, so the API would make some sense14:19
pete-woods1mterry: agreeed14:20
nic-doffaytsdgeos, sorted out the rest of the problems, that wait was handy. However I'm having issues using consecutive mouseClicks. The signal is emitted only after clicking when the list is expanded. I can the list expanding, however I can't see the affect of another click.14:26
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tsdgeosnic-doffay: not sure i understood that sentence14:32
nic-doffaytsdgeos, nm think I wasn't estimating the distances correctly.14:32
greybackmzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity-api/application-api/+merge/182692 didn't land. But before I mark approve, I suspect it's missing a pkgconfig file14:41
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greybackmzanetti: well I'm more confused. There are already pkgconf files for unity-shell-{launcher,notifications}, plus a more general one libunity-api.pc which actually includes linker info.14:44
larsuWellark: could it be that QIcon::fromTheme isn't doing the fallbacks according to spec?14:44
greybackmzanetti: so honestly I think all I need is libunity-api.pc - but I don't get the point of the others14:45
larsuWellark: like, it doesn't turn a-b-c into a-b if a-b-c isn't available14:46
mzanettigreyback: not sure I can follow14:46
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greybackmzanetti: in the unity-api-dev package right now, there are 3 pkgconfig files. One general libunity-api one, but also 2 more, one for unity-shell-launche, one for unity-shell--notifications14:47
greybackmzanetti: I'm wondering if we're expected to add one for unity-shell-applications14:48
greybackmzanetti: but mainly I don't see the point of the 2 unity-shell-* pkgconfig files at all14:48
mzanettigreyback: it should be autogenerated14:50
greybackmzanetti: aha, really? I didn't realise14:50
mzanettigreyback: the point of having them split is that they will be packaged independently14:50
mzanettiso you could only pull single plugins14:50
greybackmzanetti: okay. Sometimes I think packages can be too small, but anyway :)14:51
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mzanettigreyback: :D14:51
nic-doffaytsdgeos, if you have a moment do a pull on my branch and attempt to run that test. You'll notice that no matter which of the two selectors you input for the mouseClick the same selector is activated. Strange.14:59
nic-doffayit's easily visible with a wait.14:59
nic-doffayIt's never the right one though?14:59
nic-doffayYou'll notice that mouseClick(selector, 0, 0, Qt.LeftButton);15:00
nic-doffayselector is the one with the TEST label.15:00
nic-doffayYou'll see the other is always triggered?15:00
mzanettigreyback: also, when you're editing debian/control. it's a bit tricky... check out how the launcher does it15:02
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jibelsil2100, about the intel box, which kernel is on the host and in the container?15:23
sil2100jibel: let me check to make sure, the container has 3.11.0-4.9, the same for the intel box15:25
greybackWellark: hey, just wondering if that desktop file parser library might be arriving any time soon?15:26
Wellarkgreyback: by Tuesday15:58
greybackWellark: oh cool :)15:59
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* greyback eod16:37
nic-doffaySo apparently adding a wait() to batch test creation solved a fail although it worked perfectly in qmltestrunner. wtf of the day.16:44
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dednicklarsu: ping17:29
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mzanettiseb128: do you know if this is the right place to put the default config for the launcher items? https://launchpad.net/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas17:57
seb128mzanetti, I would make https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings build a ubuntu-touch-settings18:00
mzanettiseb128: hmm... so there is already a default for the launcher items. but we need to have an override for the phone.18:02
seb128mzanetti, right, I'm about to kick a discuss about the 'default/value per form factor', I was planning to send that email after dinner, I can Cc you on it if you want18:03
mzanettiseb128: ah, interesting.18:04
mzanettiseb128: fyi: ssweeny has prepared this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ssweeny/+junk/ubuntu-defaults-touch18:05
mzanettiseb128: that would create overrides for the other defaults. but we're unsure if this is the right way18:05
mzanettiseb128: can you put us both on CC?18:05
seb128mzanetti, sure can do18:06
mzanettiseb128: background is, the delivery team needs yet another set of overrides, for OEM integration. so such overrides seem sensible to me. but I'm not sure where to put them18:06
seb128mzanetti, that package looks like it's done using the ubuntu builder tools18:06
seb128that's for derivatives usually18:06
seb128it might be too much for us18:07
seb128we aim at convergence18:07
seb128so we should have that much difference18:07
seb128need to go for dinner18:07
seb128but I'm going to move that to the email discussion18:07
mzanettithanks. enjoy the dinner18:07
larsudednick: what's up?18:14
dednicklarsu: hey. just sent you a email. indicator-messages18:15
dednickstate not coming out a UnityMenuModel because the parameter type of the root action is set to a{sv}18:15
larsudednick: just read the mail. I think you're right18:16
dednicklarsu: also, reply not workig for me anymore. did something change in how we activate?18:16
larsudednick: not that I know of18:16
larsumuhahah I can blame ted for that one :D18:17
dednicklarsu: i'm getting telephony-service-sms.msg-actions.XXXX.quickReply in the xCanonicalMessageActions field, but it seems to be a non-existing action.18:18
larsudednick: do you have a branch I can try out on my desktop? Lots of stuff has changed in messages while I was gone. I don't have a good overview yet.18:18
dednicklarsu: how do you get a message on your desktop?!18:18
dednickthat would so help debugging. i'm resorted to using phone18:18
larsudednick: by running unity8 in a window :)18:18
dednicklarsu: yeah, but how do you get a txt message?18:19
larsudednick: without the phone app. I use a python script18:19
dednickah18:19
dednickgive me a sec and i'll get a branch18:19
larsulooks like there's an "indicator." missing in front of that action name18:20
larsuI wonder why though, unitymenumodel can handle the action-namespace stuff18:20
larsuI'll figure it out though, don't worry about it18:20
larsubut maybe on Monday ;)18:21
dednicklarsu: lp:~nick-dedekind/unity8/unitymenumodel.messages18:21
dednicklarsu: yeah, no worries. I'm off now anyway18:22
larsudednick: have a nice weekend!18:22
dednickyou as well18:22
larsuthanks :)18:22
* mzanetti is surprised that image url's like this actually work: "image://gicon//usr/share/calendar-app/calendar64.png"18:46
larsumzanetti: ya, please don't use them :)18:49
mzanettilarsu: I thought the same, but the more I think about it, the less convinced I am.18:52
mzanettiI mean, this doesn't work by accident. the one implementing this image provider must have thought about this and catches it correctly18:53
mzanettiwas it you?18:53
mhr3noooooooooooo18:54
mhr3let's forget about image://gicon18:54
mhr3it died18:54
mhr3it's rotting18:54
mhr3you can smell it18:54
mhr3it's awful18:55
mhr3remove it18:55
larsumzanetti: no, but I'm the one that's on a quest to get rid of it :)18:55
* larsu pats mhr3 on the back18:55
mzanettiwait. so we're getting rid of the whole gicon provider?18:55
larsuyes18:55
mzanettioh... what should I use then?18:56
mhr3file:///....18:56
larsuwhat kind of icon do you want to show?18:56
larsufile icon? file://18:56
mzanettilarsu: dialer-app18:56
larsuthemed icon? image://theme/18:56
mzanettifor example18:56
larsuthe app icon?18:56
mzanettiyes18:56
larsuimage://theme/dialer-app18:56
mzanettithanks :)18:56
larsumzanetti: you can even do fallbacks: image://theme/dialer-app,generic-app18:57
mzanettithat is cool :)18:57
mhr3larsu, i do wonder where some kind of fallback should go18:57
larsumhr3: what do you mean?18:57
mhr3like if you have no themed icons at all18:58
larsuright...18:58
mhr3so we don't display empty rectangles18:58
larsugeneric icon?18:58
mhr3yea18:58
larsuthat's a good idea, but highly dependent on context, no?18:58
mhr3probably18:58
larsuor do you think something like gtk's missing icon18:58
larsujust so that you see it is working18:59
larsuonly the name is wrong18:59
mhr3yea, something like that could be useful18:59
larsuyeah I can totally see that18:59
larsudo we have such an icon in ubuntu-mobile?18:59
* larsu searches19:00
mzanettithis doesn't work tho: image://theme//usr/share/ubuntu-weather-app/weather64.png19:00
mhr3mzanetti, and that's a good thing19:00
larsumzanetti: no... use file://19:00
mzanettihehe19:00
mzanettiyeah... I get them mixed... so I need to add my own code which detects what it is19:00
larsumzanetti: but even better: install the icon in /usr/share/icons/hicolor19:01
mzanetti(not a problem... just noticing the difference because of this)19:01
mzanettilarsu: this is the stuff I get from .desktop files. can't change it everywhere19:01
mhr3good ol' desktop file, who wouldn't love their icon specifications19:02
larsuya, I've never liked absolute paths in desktop files19:02
mzanettibtw image://theme/firefox doesn't seem to work. Is that related to the patch Wellark did?19:04
larsumzanetti: ya, I think he added /usr/share/pixmaps to the searchpath (where firefox puts its icon)19:06
larsubecause qt doesn't include that one19:07
larsulet me check19:07
larsumzanetti: ah, he removed it from uitk because it is landing in qt soon: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/unity-theme-icon-provider/+merge/180805/comments/41405419:09
mzanettiright. cool19:09
larsuI wonder why he didn't leave it in the merge until we have that in qt19:09
ESphynxUnity is giving me bad _NET_WM_FRAME_EXTENTS!!19:14
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