[00:00] <sepero> This ubuntu image only needs 6 votes and it will show on the unix stackexchange website. Please vote  http://meta.unix.stackexchange.com/a/1378/23373
[00:01] <visualise> fartface, hi
[00:02] <Yu-Yu> Hell, guyz, obviously I (or another update) smashed my keyboard laoyouts switching. I re-added what I need (via GNOME Control Center) and can't get it working.
[00:03] <Yu-Yu> Anyone got hints?
[00:04] <daftykins> mapps: one more thought, you could use the wired link to fully update and dist-upgrade now
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> Yu-Yu, probably help if you named the release and dektop.
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> desktop
[00:05] <missvaleska> how do I restart my display driver?
[00:06] <mapps> doing that as we speak daftykins  :0 had to go downstairs to hook it to the router
[00:06] <Yu-Yu> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu 13.10 i686. What desktop?
[00:06] <missvaleska> I did some openCL GPU intensive things, I.E GPUmining, And it kinda messes up videos until I restart my computer. If I could just restart my drivers, It'd be better
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | Yu-Yu
[00:07] <knigitz> anyone here syncing dropbox in ubuntu?  i'm having troubles :/
[00:07] <Yu-Yu> wilee-nilee: Why did you give me that?
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> Yu-Yu, That is the chanel you should be on.
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> the development channel
[00:07] <Yu-Yu> Erm.
[00:07] <Yu-Yu> Ok.
[00:08] <knigitz> running with sudo, "dropbox start -i" to install service.  it sits at starting dropbox for a while, then downloads, then unpacks, but it never installs service.  "dropbox start" always recommends i run it with -i, suggesting the daemon is not installed.
[00:10] <SchrodingersScat> knigitz: did it create a folder?
[00:10] <knigitz> yes, i had a folder created before I rebooted my VM.  however, it only populated folders, never any files (which was the reason I tried a reboot), and the dropbox daemon now will not start.
[00:11] <SchrodingersScat> knigitz: ok, sorry, probably something different than what I was thinking.
[00:14] <knigitz> okay /root/.dropbox-dist/dropbox is giving me a segmentation fault...
[00:14] <Yu-Yu> Root? ;D
[00:14] <daftykins> knigitz: why in the hell are you running dropbox as root?
[00:15] <knigitz> :o had to sudo to do some stuff prior to install, never left
[00:17] <Klapo> hello guys!
[00:18] <knigitz> i'll start from scratch without it see if that helps..
[00:18] <Yu-Yu> Klapo: is that goodbye?
[00:18] <Klapo> noo
[00:18] <Klapo> why you think so?
[00:19] <Yu-Yu> knigitz: I purged dropbox; I don't like proprietary weird GFX-bound things much.
[00:20] <Klapo> can someone tell me, how can I (if I can..) extract configure command parameters from deb file?
[00:20] <bvb> dropbox comes with privacy concerns
[00:20] <Yu-Yu> Klapo: I suppose there is dpkg-deb util.
[00:21] <knigitz> this is on a virtualbox vm, lamp installation.  i sync my webdev stuff to dropbox.  just personal projects, nothing production.
[00:21] <Yu-Yu> Klapo: And you still can view a deb package vith the aid of mc, for instance.
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> bvb, That's a personal opinion and offtopic.
[00:21] <bvb> i might switch to debian the user support actually seems pretty good
[00:21] <vith> Yu-Yu: with* :P
[00:21] <Klapo> Yu-Yu: thanks, gotta take a look at dpkg-deb
[00:22] <Yu-Yu> XD, vith.
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> bvb, If you want to chat #ubuntu-offtopic is your place. ;)
[00:23] <MJ90> Hi Every One, I am new to Linux. I have a problem with my EVDO 3g modem. The modem is used for chinal telecome. I bought it from third party seller. I live in Myanmar. My problem is that the modem is not detected by the Ubuntu at every time of booting up. It show up some time and not. If it is showed, I can't used it with Ununtu's Network Setting. I have to use wvdial
[00:23] <MJ90> What should I do, to dected it every time of booting up.
[00:24] <mapps> leaving it to upgrade now gonna go to the gym hopefully be done when i get back-
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> MJ90, You have the exact model info, I would get a plug and play they are rather cheap.
[00:26] <MJ90> Hi, wilee-nilee, I think it used, QUalcomm 600 as chip set.
[00:26] <savid> How do I enable pulseaudio to show network pulse servers?
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> MJ90, You think, what does lsusb say with it plugged in?
[00:27] <MJ90> and it is the blue color. It shows,
[00:28] <MJ90> eSurfing from the front side(not of the side of phone card) socket.
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> MJ90, we want exact info.
[00:28] <MJ90> Hi , it shows - Bus 006 Device 002: ID 05c6:6000 Qualcomm, Inc. Siemens SG75
[00:28] <MJ90> like that if it is work
[00:28] <Yu-Yu> wilee-nilee: Don't you state I have to downgrade manually (how do I do so with the whole distro??) just to get some help ever?
[00:29] <MJ90> if not, Bus 006 Device 002: ID 05c6:1000 Qualcomm, Inc. USB mass storage
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> Yu-Yu, I did not state a download, that is a fresh install if you want a released version.
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> sorry downgrade*
[00:30] <sepero> Yu-Yu: There is no option to system downgrade. You must reinstall
[00:31]  * Yu-Yu shakes her head and cries.
[00:32] <Yu-Yu> sepero: I didn't reinstall it here since 2009 or like that.
[00:32] <MJ90> Hi, What should I do.
[00:32] <sepero> Yu-Yu: Why are you using a beta version of the system? It should be expected to have fundamental problems
[00:33] <sepero> Yu-Yu: If you want a very stable system, you need to go with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[00:33] <Siecje> In the terminal I can't press up to see the previous command ubuntu 13.04
[00:33] <Silver_Arrow> anybody familiar with qtsixad?
[00:33] <Silver_Arrow> I can't figure out what snippet from my dmesg sixad-raw wants about my controller
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> MJ90, I'm not seeing much on that unit none really, personally I would get one that plugs and just works, drivers for linux in many areas are just not kicked out by manufacturers.
[00:34] <Yu-Yu> sepero: I am weird and my decisions weird are. Nevertheless, all I know at the moment is that if I want a stable system, I have to build my own team and make this stable system appear.
[00:35] <MJ90> Thanks wilee-nilee
[00:35] <sepero> Yu-Yu: Just install Ubuntu 12.04
[00:38] <Yu-Yu> sepero: Okay. I won't do so. I don't wanna follow that weird MS way.
[00:39] <Yu-Yu> sepero: Especially if it sounds like «gnome-settings-daemon AccountsService-CRITICAL **: act_user_set_input_sources: assertion 'g_variant_is_of_type (sources, G_VARIANT_TYPE ("aa{ss}"))' failed», you know.
[00:40] <sepero> Yu-Yu: Ok. When you switch to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, then you'll feel a lot better. And you get the latest of any software by just using ppa's  :)
[00:42] <Siecje> how would I restore the terminal to default settings
[00:44] <Yu-Yu> sepero: And also I can't run into things I can test and report. Thank you.
[00:44] <sepero> Yu-Yu: welcome
[00:44] <Yu-Yu> Siecje: what terminal app exactly?
[00:44] <sepero> Siecje: I assume you mean visually?
[00:45] <Siecje> Yu-Yu: the one that comes with ubuntu ctrl + alt + t
[00:45] <Siecje> Yu-Yu: sorry I don't know how to find out
[00:45] <Siecje> Yu-Yu: killall gnome-terminal closes them though
[00:45] <sepero> lol
[00:45] <Siecje> Yu-Yu: but I am using unity
[00:46] <sepero> Siecje: you are using the program named gnome-terminal  :)
[00:46] <Yu-Yu> Yah, it's gnome-terminal then. I am not using it, although you can rclick on it or use F10 to access the menu.
[00:46] <Siecje> Yu-Yu: I've looked and I can't find anything in there
[00:47] <Siecje> Yu-Yu: I tried xterm and the same things happen
[00:47] <Siecje> and xfce4-terminal
[00:47] <sepero> Siecje: Did you try going to  Edit > Profile Preferences  ?
[00:48] <hedJak> Siecje, are you using xubuntu?
[00:48] <Siecje> sepero: yeah I don't see anything for up arrow or tab
[00:48] <Siecje> hedJak: unity
[00:48] <hedJak> ah, sorry, you said that earlier.  but you're using xfce4-term?
[00:49] <hedJak> if you want the mad-bomber approach, close all terms and remove .config/xfce4/terminal/terminalrc
[00:50] <sepero> Siecje: Perhaps try:  sudo apt-get install readline-common
[00:50] <Yu-Yu> Okay. Anyone can tell what program can I use to bind a command to a combination of keys?
[00:51] <hedJak> anyone have experience programming gtk3?  :/
[00:51] <Siecje> 111 not upgraded
[00:51] <hedJak> have a Q about question dialog boxes in glade
[00:52] <netlar> I just had a load average of 10
[00:52] <NeverHere> Yu-Yu, you can type the first to letters of a command and hit the tab key and the command should complete
[00:52] <hedJak> netlar, nice! :D
[00:52] <Yu-Yu> NeverHere never read.
[00:52] <netlar> And it was chromium
[00:52] <anonynimity> How do i fix "the following packages have been kept back..." In ubuntu raring ringtail?
[00:52] <somsip> anonynimity: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:53] <netlar> My son was logged in and had chromium open.  Why would that cause such a high load?
[00:53] <Yu-Yu> NeverHere: do you mean it should complete a thing to «dbus-send --dest=ru.gentoo.KbddService /ru/gentoo/KbddService ru.gentoo.kbdd.next_layout» magically?
[00:53] <sepero> anonynimity: just try to install them by name
[00:53] <anonynimity> Ok and how do i fix "...or old sources have been used instead" withv"404- not found"
[00:53] <daftykins> netlar: flash no doubt
[00:54] <sepero> anonynimity: they are held back because installing them requires uninstalling something else
[00:54] <netlar> Yes, ok, he had it on a sports page with flash
[00:55] <sepero> anonynimity: What program?
[00:55] <sepero> anonynimity: what's the full error?
[00:55] <anonynimity> Sudo apt-get update command @ sepero
[00:56] <anonynimity> Let me get to computer
[00:56] <sepero> anonynimity: if you get 404 with apt-get update, then those package repositories might not be good any more. Possibly a ppa you added
[00:57] <Yu-Yu> Anyone, a tool like btnx, but workable?
[00:57] <Siecje> what would cause autocomplete to not work in the terminal?
[00:57] <sepero> Siecje: Possibly a few things
[00:57] <anonynimity> Will show full error in pastebin when server is loaded
[00:57] <sepero> anonynimity: no need
[00:57] <sepero> anonynimity: if you get 404 with apt-get update, then those package repositories might not be good any more. Possibly a ppa you added
[00:58] <anonynimity> Brb
[00:58] <sepero> Siecje: Did you try?:  sudo apt-get install readline-common
[00:58] <Siecje> sepero: yeah it is installed
[00:58] <Siecje> here is my .bashrc https://dpaste.de/sQaWd/
[00:59] <sepero> Siecje: ok
[00:59] <Anonynimity> working...
[01:00] <callowayj> hi
[01:00] <callowayj> first time using irssi
[01:01] <ccbn> Hi, I'm on 64-bit 12.04. I used to be able to run 'bluez-test-audio connect ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff' and it would connect to my bluetooth headset. Now I just get an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6042362/
[01:02] <Anonynimity> here is the full error of sudo apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/HsH7hx4S
[01:02] <Anonynimity> can someone tell me what I need to do to remove those ppa's (that are no longer working?)
[01:02] <somsip> !ppa-purge | Anonynimity
[01:02] <Siecje> sepero: what is one of the things to cause autocomplete to not work?
[01:03] <sepero> Siecje: I don't know all the possibilities
[01:03] <hedJak> Siecje, most obvious is PATH env being messed up
[01:03] <Siecje> hedJak: where can I check for that
[01:03] <hedJak> open term and type echo $PATH
[01:04] <sepero> hedJak: He says readline isn't working correctly with up/down keys
[01:04] <hedJak> Siecje, hm.  thats history not autocompete
[01:05] <sepero> Anonynimity: You have a lot of ppa's that no longer appear to be good
[01:05] <Siecje> hedJak: what is the package for history?
[01:05] <hedJak> Siecje, its part of default shell. usually bash
[01:05] <Anonynimity> is there a way to fix those automatically or remove them sepero?
[01:05] <somsip> !ppa-purge | Anonynimity
[01:06] <sepero> Anonynimity: http://ppa/darktable-release http://ppa.launchpad.net/abhshk-btra http://ppa.launchpad.net/freetuxtv etc
[01:06] <hedJak> Siecje, if up/down isn't working might be your term settings? you mentioned those earlier
[01:06] <Siecje> Is there a way to reinstall it?
[01:06] <Siecje> hedJak: I don't see any setting to change it
[01:06] <Anonynimity> thx sepero
[01:06] <hedJak> Siecje, like i said earlier if your term settings are screwy, you could remove the config file for it.
[01:06] <sepero> Anonynimity: you can delete the file for them in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/...
[01:06] <hedJak> Siecje, did you say you were using xfce4-terminal?
[01:07] <Siecje> echo $SHELL
[01:07] <Siecje> /bin/sh
[01:07] <hedJak> oh
[01:07] <Anonynimity> okay, thx sepero. :)
[01:07] <hedJak> haha
[01:07] <dr_willis_> there ya go
[01:07] <dr_willis_> sh is not bssh
[01:07] <dr_willis_> bash
[01:07] <hedJak> Siecje, did you change your shell from bash -> sh?
[01:07] <sepero> Anonynimity: Once you delete the ppa file, it will no longer try to get it on update. If you leave them, it's no harm to your system
[01:08] <somsip> sepero: Anonynimity: removing them from sources.list leaves un-upgradeable packages installed. This is why ppa-purge is recommended
[01:08] <Siecje> how do I switch it back
[01:08] <dr_willis_> chsh command Siecje
[01:08] <sepero> Anonynimity: somsip may be correct. I'm unfamiliar with ppa-purge
[01:08] <Yu-Yu> lol
[01:08] <Anonynimity> okay...
[01:08] <dr_willis_> ! ppa-purge
[01:09] <hedJak> Siecje, there's a GUI util to change the shell.  under users or similar
[01:09] <Anonynimity> here's a copy of my /etc/apt/sources.list file
[01:09] <Yu-Yu> sepero: Just using here in Pidgin `/exec dbus-send --dest=ru.gentoo.KbddService /ru/gentoo/KbddService ru.gentoo.kbdd.next_layout´ can solve this for me.
[01:09] <Anonynimity> and here's a copy of the error http://pastebin.com/HsH7hx4S
[01:09] <Anonynimity> so...
[01:10] <hedJak> Siecje, if youre feeling adventerous you could edit /etc/passwrd, but that's a nice way to mess up system if you don't know what you're doing ;D
[01:10] <Silver_Arrow> qtsixad recognizes my ps3 controller, but the system doesn't see it as a joystick
[01:10] <Anonynimity> so...
[01:10] <dr_willis_> you really shouldn't be altering the sources.list file these days.
[01:10] <hedJak> /etc/passwd.  typo.  derp.
[01:10] <Yu-Yu> While gnome-settings-daemon somehow can't do its job anymore.
[01:10] <sepero> Yu-Yu: nice
[01:10] <Silver_Arrow> and I have no idea what I'm doing wrong
[01:10] <somsip> Anonynimity: no - it's the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d that contains the PPA URIs. You've been given the solution 3 times now...
[01:10] <Anonynimity> the thing is dr_willis_ it doesn't show up in the sources.list file...
[01:11] <Yu-Yu> sepero: дтацуатдлт
[01:11] <Yu-Yu> (05:10:23) Silver_Arrow: and I have no idea what I'm doing wrong [²]
[01:11] <hedJak> Siecje, actually chsh is probably easiest
[01:11] <dr_willis_> Anonynimity:  makes sence if its in sources.list.d like its supposed to be
[01:11]  * Yu-Yu is afk. In sorrow.
[01:11] <Anonynimity> ok...
[01:12] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I see printer logs? I want to see how many files have been printed.
[01:12] <sepero> Siecje: http://superuser.com/questions/46748/how-do-i-make-bash-my-default-shell-on-ubuntu
[01:12] <Anonynimity> I remember something about the printer logs in cups...
[01:12] <dr_willis_> mojtaba:  /var/logs/cups  perhaps
[01:12] <NeverHere> mojtaba, not completely sure, but i bet cups has a log somewhere you could ject
[01:12] <somsip> mojtaba: http://localhost:631 and you should have a Completed Jobs info somewhere
[01:12] <NeverHere> lol
[01:12] <Siecje> https://dpaste.de/d8UfP/
[01:13] <hedJak> Siecje, yup set to /bin/bash :D
[01:13] <Siecje> I did
[01:13] <Siecje> doesn't work
[01:13] <hedJak> open a new term, then do echo $SHELL
[01:13] <dr_willis_> Siecje:  log out.....
[01:13] <Anonynimity> so it shows up as http://ppa/....
[01:13] <Anonynimity> how do I use ppa-purge with that?
[01:13] <hedJak> Siecje, what the doc said lol
[01:14] <Yu-Yu> bb, wg
[01:14] <fionnan> Is there an easy way to always show the menu bar of applications? I added the PPA as described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25785/can-auto-hide-for-the-application-menu-be-turned-off-in-unity , but I can't seem to get the 'Menu Always Visible' option to show in ccsm
[01:14] <dr_willis_> its not going to change on the fly..
[01:14] <hedJak> dr_willis_, depends on how the term is set up, opening new should pick that up
[01:15] <hedJak> dr_willis_, but youre right.  no insta-shell haha
[01:15] <hedJak> dr_willis_, well...beside exec ;)
[01:15] <dr_willis_> makes me wonder why he changed it in the first place
[01:15] <hedJak> dr_willis_, no idea?
[01:16] <Anonynimity> here's the error I get when attempting to do a ppa-purge
[01:16] <Silver_Arrow> hmm, system definately isn't seeing it as a joystick, no joystick in /dev/input/
[01:16] <Anonynimity> PPA to be removed: darktable-release/dists/quantal InRelease
[01:16] <Anonynimity> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: darktable-release/dists/quantal
[01:16] <Anonynimity> InRelease
[01:17] <Anonynimity> so I assume I edit the list.d folder
[01:17] <Anonynimity> ?
[01:17] <dr_willis_> thats one way Anonynimity
[01:17] <Anonynimity> what's the safest?
[01:18] <mojtaba> somsip: Thanks, but how can I figure out which file have been printed?
[01:18] <hedJak> ha ha we laugh at safety! >:)
[01:18] <hedJak> ..sry
[01:18] <dr_willis_> if you want back to original packages ppa-purge
[01:18] <Anonynimity> I tried that dr_willis_
[01:19] <dr_willis_> you may be doing it wrong.
[01:19] <Anonynimity> it says it could not find package list for ppa: darktable-release/dists/quantal InRelease.
[01:19] <budtuba> Hello everyone....looking for help in getting sound to work
[01:19] <somsip> mojtaba: you could try looking in /var/log/cups but I'm not sure if the info is in there
[01:19] <dr_willis_> or use synsptic to remive the things from the ppas
[01:19] <Anonynimity> I used sudo ppa-purge ppa:darktable-release/dists/quantal/InRelease
[01:19] <sepero> Anonynimity: you can just delete the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/...   it will only cause the packages you installed to stay installed
[01:20] <Anonynimity> then can I use autoremove to remove them after an apt-get update sepero?
[01:20] <sepero> yes
[01:20] <Anonynimity> awesome :) thx
[01:20] <dr_willis_> uninstall the stuff with synaptic. then disable the ppas
[01:20] <sepero> Anonynimity: I mean no
[01:20] <Anonynimity> crap!
[01:20] <Anonynimity> helllpppp me?
[01:21] <sepero> Anonynimity: You would have to remove them by name  lol
[01:21] <somsip> Anonynimity: this is why...
[01:21] <somsip> !PPA | Anonynimity
[01:21] <dr_willis_> look at what I said above...
[01:21] <budtuba> Anyone here a expert on sound?
[01:21] <Anonynimity> dr_willis_ do you have teamviewer?
[01:21] <Siecje> in /etc/passwd I have it set to bash but it is not starting with bash
[01:21] <Siecje> still s
[01:21] <Siecje> sh
[01:21] <dr_willis_> synaptic can show each ppa and what was installed from it
[01:21] <Anonynimity> or sepero do you have team viewer?
[01:21] <sepero> ye
[01:22] <Anonynimity> will you please show me how to fix this?
[01:22] <dr_willis_> Anonynimity:  nope. thid is not hard... run synaptic and look.
[01:22] <sepero> sure
[01:22] <Anonynimity> ok.... I will give you the id and password to connect.
[01:22] <sepero> k
[01:23] <dr_willis_> synaptic   can show each source/repo/ppa
[01:24] <Siecje> I create a .bash_profile file in ~/
[01:24] <Siecje> $ cat .bash_profile
[01:24] <Siecje> . $HOME/.bashrc
[01:24] <jrib> Siecje: stop.  Use a pastebin
[01:25] <Siecje> https://dpaste.de/UoE86/
[01:25] <Pinkamena_D> how do I put a command in the terminal that can be used anywhere
[01:26] <jrib> Pinkamena_D: for your user or system-wide?  What kind of command?
[01:26] <dr_willis_> Pinkamena_D:  put it in YOur $PATH
[01:26] <jrib> Siecje: ask your question...
[01:26] <Pinkamena_D> for example if, in any specific folder I can run ./somecommand because the script is in that folder, and I want ot make it work in any folder and without the ./
[01:27] <Siecje> jrib: When I open the terminal it is /bin/sh I would like /bin/bash
[01:27] <jrib> Siecje: what does "open the terminal" entail exactly?
[01:27] <somsip> Pinkamena_D: in ~/bin or /usr/local/bin. Make sure the directory is in your path too
[01:27] <jrib> Pinkamena_D: what exactly is "somecommand"?  Something you worte?  For you user or system-wide?
[01:27] <dr_willis_>  Siecje  chsh bash   then logout.. login at console and see if its bash
[01:28] <Pinkamena_D> I am the only one who uses the computer, so just me (it does not use sudo)
[01:28] <Pinkamena_D> its just something sinple which displays various stats on the terminal
[01:28] <jrib> Pinkamena_D: you can just use ~/bin then.  Make sure you log out and back in after create ~/bin
[01:28] <carif> will python3 be the default python for 13.10?
[01:28] <somsip> !13.10 | carif
[01:34] <Anonynimity> sorry sepero
[01:34] <sepero> Anonynimity: ah, your desktop crash?
[01:34] <Anonynimity> no...
[01:35] <Anonynimity> keyboard was acting up
[01:35] <sepero> Anonynimity: ok
[01:42] <Siecje> ok I had to restart. Now how do I remove the USER@PC_NAME$ in the terminal
[01:44] <dr_willis> Siecje:  lookup the  'bash prompt howto'
[01:44] <dr_willis> its the ps1 variable you change
[01:45] <Silver_Arrow> found the problem, I had to override the system denying the ps3 controller power, it only functions as a joystick in hidraw mode
[01:45] <dr_willis> ps1='----->'        for example
[01:46] <Silver_Arrow> but I have to do echo 1 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/2-5.1/bConfigurationValue
[01:46] <Silver_Arrow> as root every time I plug it back in
[01:46] <Silver_Arrow> is there a way to setup a script to do that every time I hook up the controller?
[01:48] <Benkinooby> is there a way to limit a process' cpu usage after it started?
[01:49] <Silver_Arrow> Benkinooby: is cranking it's nice value up not working?
[01:49] <dr_willis> Silver_Arrow:  a udev rule may be able to do that
[01:49] <zykotick9> Siecje: that is the PS1 value in your .bashrc
[01:49] <Siecje> https://dpaste.de/YFiPZ/
[01:50] <Benkinooby> Silver_Arrow: ah, ust saw that i can do that in htop - waht value do you recommend?
[01:50] <dr_willis> ps1 or PS1  i forget. and this android keybord keeps auto correcting it
[01:50] <Siecje> dr_willis: https://dpaste.de/YFiPZ/
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> Siecje, I was looking ay bash wiki's yesterday quite abundant.
[01:51] <Silver_Arrow> a positive value gives it lesser priority
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> at*
[01:51] <Silver_Arrow> Benkinooby: would this happen to be related to the minecraft high cpu usage in menus bug?
[01:51] <dr_willis> you  have looked at the bash prompt howto Siecje ?  tldp.org
[01:51] <Benkinooby> no
[01:52] <Silver_Arrow> ok, cause nice value doesn't cut it for that, I've tried
[01:52] <Benkinooby> Silver_Arrow: i started picard (music recognition and tagging) on 17'000 files
[01:52] <Benkinooby> on a 1GB, 1.8 Ghz single core laptop
[01:52] <Benkinooby> well, had to kill it :(
[01:53] <Siecje> where does the user come from/
[01:53] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:53] <nerdtron> Benkinooby that's too much for a small machine
[01:53] <Benkinooby> nerdtron: ORLY? XD
[01:53] <dr_willis> Siecje:   the special variables in PS1
[01:53] <Benkinooby> nerdtron: noted that too :P - i just thought i may stay decently in the background
[01:54] <Benkinooby> so it will rund for some days, but will not distrub my work
[01:54] <nerdtron> Benkinooby haha try batch by batch
[01:54] <Benkinooby> but no... USE ALL THE CPU!
[01:54] <dr_willis> \u   = username
[01:54] <Benkinooby> nerdtron: yeah, that's what i'm going to do now
[01:54] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:54] <zykotick9> Siecje: \u i'd guess
[01:54] <nerdtron> Benkinooby that is hard drive intensive task..and since it is single core, you'll run out of resources for other tasks
[01:55] <Siecje> do I have to log off to see changes?
[01:55] <Benkinooby> nerdtron: hard drive was not the probem. even RAM was ok. it was cpu only
[01:55] <Benkinooby> maybe a bug
[01:55] <zykotick9> Siecje: try "source ~/.bashrc" and see if that updates things
[01:56] <nerdtron> Benkinooby it could be not a bug, maybe the program you are using is really cpu intensive..I only you have a dual core cpu, it would be faster
[01:59] <b_> 5]
[02:00] <sepero> Anonynimity: ppa-purge isn't going to work for you because it looks like it requires the ppa's not be 404
[02:00] <Anonynimity> so how do I fix that?
[02:01] <Siecje> I modified my .bashrc file https://dpaste.de/PKrfK/ and sourced it but no change
[02:01] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I just created a swap partition so that I can hibernate my laptop. Do I have to enable this swap partition somehow or linux will automatically detect it? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-friday30august2013-072757ist.php
[02:01] <zykotick9> Siecje: start a new bash session then, run "bash".
[02:02] <mhall> I am seeing an absolutely bizarre bug on a Gateway AMD Vision box with EFI firmware. The display comes up as "1920x1080" in X, but blurry, and not filling the entire 1920x1080 LCD panel. Almost like it's a bad VGA connection. But the connection is HDMI. Has anybody else figured out the cause of this? I am not even really sure how to Google a problem this strange.
[02:03] <mhall> This EFI system has been nothing but pure misery to try to install
[02:03] <histo> c2tarun: you need it mounted then you can swapon /whatever
[02:03] <zykotick9> Siecje: i see at least two other entries with /u in them, perhaps you aren't changing the right one?
[02:03] <c2tarun> histo, how do I do that?
[02:03] <histo> c2tarun: jsut swapon /dev/of/partition
[02:03] <mhall> Is there a different ATI driver I could try besides the fglrx or anything
[02:04] <histo> c2tarun: assuming you have mkswap'd it
[02:04] <Siecje> ok that worked
[02:05] <mhall> man that IPv6 just needs one more nybble set for a full house
[02:05] <histo> c2tarun: then you can add it to your fstab to utilize it on boot
[02:06] <c2tarun> histo, I was reading about fstab only
[02:06] <histo> c2tarun: create an entry for your swap partition in your /etc/fstab
[02:06] <histo> !swap | c2tarun
[02:08] <c2tarun> histo, will this do? http://askubuntu.com/questions/33697/adding-swap-partition-after-system-installation
[02:08] <ozette> I added a file "llvm-nightly.list" to my sources.list.d directory, and now i'm trying to install a list of packages from the repo.. the packages can't be found however, do I have to restart apt somehow?
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> ozette, where did you get it a PPA?
[02:09] <Siecje> how do I change the hotkeys to put windows in the corners from num pad numbers to numbers
[02:09] <NeverHere> c2tarun, you can increase your swap space with the built in disk utility last i checked, if thats what you are trying to do
[02:10] <c2tarun> NeverHere, I created swap, I am trying to activate it.
[02:10] <ozette> wilee-nilee, no, i copy paste it from the llvm site http://llvm.org/apt/
[02:10] <zykotick9> ozette: "sudo apt-get update" should pull any new, WORKING repos in.
[02:10] <NeverHere> c2tarun, swap is automatically activated when the system runs low or out of usable memory
[02:10] <ozette> zykotick9, aha.. let me try that
[02:11] <c2tarun> NeverHere, I guess I have to mention that a partition is swap in /etc/fstab
[02:11] <trystan> finally lol people
[02:11] <histo> c2tarun: yeah looks good
[02:11] <map> hoorah
[02:11] <map> daftykins,  it works now
[02:12] <map> after upgrade came back from gym and it listed my network:D
[02:13] <c2tarun> histo, here is my new fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6042536/
[02:15] <c2tarun> I think I should reboot and then test my hibernate. Thanks histo
[02:15] <ozette> zykotick9, the update threw a GPG error on this new repo and complained about a public key not being available, nonetheless it doesn't seem to matter and it has worked the packages are now installing, thanks
[02:15] <histo> c2tarun: why not just swapon /dev/sda6    and see now
[02:16] <c2tarun> histo, I did that from gparted menu. Is it same as you are saying?
[02:16] <Siecje> how do I change the hotkey alt+ctrl+Num pad 9 to be just regular 9
[02:16] <histo> c2tarun: open a terminal and type in sudo swapon /dev/sda6
[02:17] <c2tarun> histo, I am getting device or resource busy, is there any way to check which device is in swapon right now?
[02:17] <zykotick9> histo: i'm not sure if the swap needs to be in fstab for this to work, but I always use "sudo swapon -a" (for all), or the reverse "sudo swapoff -a".
[02:18] <zykotick9> histo: actually, i don't think it does need to be in fstab (thus my suggesting it), as the ubuntu LiveCD does it automatically.
[02:19] <c2tarun> histo, I found this in my /proc/swaps http://paste.ubuntu.com/6042544/ I think I can test is now only.
[02:19] <c2tarun> zykotick9, actually I didn't opted for swap partition while installation.
[02:19] <histo> c2tarun: free -m     does that show swap being on?
[02:19] <c2tarun> histo, yes
[02:20] <histo> c2tarun: then try your silly hibernation. Hopefully swap is bigger than your physical ram size
[02:20] <c2tarun> histo, yup :) approx 500 MB bigger. Just curious, why is hibernation silly?
[02:20]  * zykotick9 doesn't find hibernation "silly"
[02:21]  * c2tarun hibernation is the only thing I like about windows :| sad but true
[02:24]  * histo has SSD no need for hybernation
[02:24] <histo> 4 second boot to i3wm
[02:24] <zykotick9> histo: it's still a great uptime "cheat" ;)
[02:25] <histo>  22:25:30 up 65 days,  5:45,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[02:26] <zykotick9> histo: 22:26:19 up 90 days,  1:01,  4 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.08, 0.13
[02:26] <tarun_> histo, I just figured out that hibernation is silly in ubuntu :| none of my opened apps were saved. My wi-fi was disable by default. I am not able to log-in with my ID in xchat. Volume was muted.
[02:27] <zykotick9> tarun_: hibernation is disabled-by-default in ubuntu for a reason ;)
[02:27]  * wilee-nilee chuckles uptime and no reboots have no intrinsic value
[02:27] <tarun_> zykotick9, yeah I did a dry run by sudo pm-hibernate.
[02:28] <zykotick9> tarun_: hibernation is VERY hardware/driver dependant
[02:29] <c2tarun> zykotick9, yeah, I am not trying hibernation again in ubuntu. Actually my problem is ubuntu's support with broadcom wi-fi card is little buggy. Sometimes it doesn't detect any wifi network :)
[02:29]  * c2tarun well firefox did a nice job in saving tabs :)
[02:31] <map> oh great
[02:31] <map> i rebooted and now no wifi
[02:31] <map> lol
[02:32] <c2tarun> map are you using broadcom as well?
[02:32] <map> yes sir
[02:32] <map> broadcom wifi and eth0
[02:33] <map> bcm4311 wifi and bcm4401 eth
[02:33] <map> whats your card
[02:33] <c2tarun> map, hehehe :) same try rebooting 3-4 times and disable and enable it one or two times, it'll work
[02:33] <map> what are you on? 13.04 also?
[02:36] <map> c2tarun, ?
[02:39] <iam|iam> how do i add a library to python?
[02:39] <iam|iam> it's permissions don't let me
[02:39] <iam|iam> i tried changing them, but it doesn't let me do that either
[02:40] <iam|iam> i need to change the owner from root to me
[02:40] <iam|iam> ...
[02:41] <Siecje> how do I change the hotkeys to move the windows to the corners ctrl + alt + num pad 9 to use regular 9?
[02:42] <c2tarun> map,  ubuntu 12.04
[02:42] <lgc> What could be wrong, As of yesterday I was able to access my Windows files, but the partition will not mount anymore. I haven't messed with fstab. What gives?
[02:44] <joem> Hi, I got an error after running this command (sudo apt-get update). Error like this (W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/themes/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[02:44] <joem> )
[02:44] <lamancha> ...
[02:44] <Silver_Arrow> in jtest-jtk I can't figure out settings for axis 23, 24, 25 (the 3 accelerometers) on my ps3 contoller to make them always centered and so games ignore them
[02:45] <Silver_Arrow> *jtest-gtk
[02:46] <lgc> joem: That happens when you either have no internet or the server is down.
[02:47] <Anonynimity> hey, I need some help with jitsi. I can't exactly figure out what the issue is, but every time I receive a call on jitsi, it automatically hangs up.
[02:47] <zykotick9> joem: just ignore the Translation-*, actually doesn't it say to do that?
[02:47] <Silver_Arrow> it doesn't like when I set the dead zone to the entire range or larger, but anything less and it detects movement
[02:47] <Anonynimity> here is the error log http://pastebin.com/73z6sjjd
[02:47] <Silver_Arrow> setting the dead zone and range to 0 doesn't work either
[02:47] <Anonynimity> if anyone can help with this
[02:49] <ffio> during login i am directly log into unity i don't have a screen which ask me to choose different session that i can login in.
[02:49] <Anonynimity> *throws computer out window*
[02:50] <sil> ola
[02:50] <reveal> I recently installed Ubuntu 11.10 next to my Windows 7, I am not able to boot into Windows when I am at the grub boot loader it just keeps cycling back to the grub menu. I did update-grub no worky
[02:50] <holstein> !11.10
[02:50] <c2tarun> reveal, why did you install 11.10?
[02:50] <Anonynimity> !jitsi
[02:51] <reveal> had to for class :|
[02:51] <holstein> reveal: use 12.04 or 13.04 and a volunteer can help you with the dual boot
[02:51] <sil> oiii
[02:51] <joem> lgc no I have connection I'm sure with that. Heres the full error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6042603/
[02:51] <reveal> i can do that with the upgrade option then
[02:51] <holstein> reveal: then, you ask your "class" to support you
[02:51] <reveal> holstein: no bueno
[02:52] <holstein> reveal: to get support you'll need to run a supported version of ubuntu.. otherwise, there are many other bootloaders you can try that might boot windows and your linux version
[02:52] <^v> i have bad with wifii
[02:53] <^v> help ple
[02:53] <holstein> ^v: can i help you find a channel in your native language?
[02:53] <Anonynimity> I had bad wifi once...
[02:53] <Silver_Arrow> is there a way to make the kernel/joystick drive ignore axis 23, 24, and 25?
[02:53] <Silver_Arrow> *driver
[02:54] <Anonynimity> then I removed the dns-masq package and had to reinstall quite a few packages by hand.
[02:54] <lgc> joem: Is this recent? (I just pinged ppa.launchpad.net and it pings back).
[02:54] <Anonynimity> but, it worked...
[02:54] <ffio> can't get ubuntu login screen
[02:54] <ffio> pls help
[02:54] <Anonynimity> ffio,
[02:54] <Anonynimity> drop down to a shell
[02:54] <zykotick9> joem: i certainly hope you realize, that by using PPAs (which you seem to be doing), that it voids your "ubuntu warranty" for support in #ubuntu.  see "/msg ubottu ppa" for confirmation.  are you sure you even have network?  ;)
[02:54] <Anonynimity> (ctl + alt + f2)
[02:54] <Anonynimity> login.
[02:55] <Anonynimity> then type the following:
[02:55] <Anonynimity> startx
[02:55] <Anonynimity> next, go to ctl + alt + f3
[02:55] <Anonynimity> login there
[02:55] <sendaljepit> firewall
[02:55] <ffio> Anonynimity: it by defaults log into ubuntu ( unity ) i want to boot it into openbox.
[02:55] <holstein> !firewall
[02:55] <Anonynimity> type sudo service lightdm start (or sudo service gdm start)
[02:55] <Anonynimity> okay...
[02:55] <ffio> i don't get login screen such that i always boot into unity .
[02:55] <Anonynimity> then install the openbox theme...
[02:56] <Anonynimity> then sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:57] <holstein> ffio: thats a different issue.. you mean, you automatically login to unity, and you want to not automatically login?
[02:57] <zykotick9> ffio: do you have autologin enabled? (i'd guess you do)
[02:57] <ffio> holstein: yes correct
[02:58] <ffio> zykotick9: may be it's autologin so how can i disable it ?
[02:58] <ffio> Anonynimity: trying your command
[02:58] <zykotick9> ffio: that, i don't know ;)
[02:58] <Anonynimity> ffio if it's autologin, then maybe you should set a password?
[02:59] <ffio> Anonynimity: i had set a password
[02:59] <funky2> hey ho
[02:59] <funky2> :D
[02:59] <map> damnit still nothing
[02:59] <map> i had wireless rebooted and its gone
[02:59] <holstein> !language
[02:59] <holstein> ffio: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[02:59] <holstein> map: try the older kernel, if you had one
[03:00] <funky2> whats the best way to migrate entire server?
[03:00] <funky2> download, save on dvd and send to new host?
[03:00] <map> its a fresh 13.04 ninstall ran dist-upgrade and then after that finished it worked..reboot and now it doesnt work
[03:00] <ffio> holstein: thank you :)
[03:00] <funky2> i wonder which host offer some panel access to bare metal to copy u files to it
[03:00] <map> but wlan0 listed in iwconfig and ifconfig just no networks?! its not showing any
[03:01] <holstein> funky2: you can ask the hosts for support with that
[03:01] <funky2> well I asked one they said they dont care
[03:01] <funky2> or send dvd in post
[03:01] <funky2> I wonder if there is some trick
[03:02] <holstein> funky2: any way to move the data should work..
[03:02] <Anonynimity> xchat eating up bandwidth... be back after upgrade and after jitsi nightly downloads.
[03:02] <funky2> like I can boot host ubuntu and then somehow tell ubuntu to use my dvd?
[03:02] <funky2> holstein: well say I got ec2 ubuntu box and hertzner back uo
[03:02] <funky2> what do I do?
[03:02] <holstein> funky2: "host" ubuntu may not be ubuntu, and may not be officially supported here
[03:02] <funky2> lol
[03:03] <holstein> funky2: what is "hertzner"
[03:03] <funky2> its a hosting provider
[03:03] <funky2> so how do u migrate ubuntu install usually?
[03:03] <holstein> funky2: you will ask them for support.. if you have access, you download the data you are talking about and put it up on the new machine
[03:03] <funky2> put it how?
[03:04] <funky2> simply log in to new ubuntu and then what? once I format hdd I loose putty access
[03:04] <funky2> :)
[03:04] <holstein> funky2: ask the host.. i grab the data friend.. via ssh.. with a filemanager.. whatever way i choose.. grsync
[03:04] <funky2> well grab part I get
[03:04] <funky2> its to get it to new dudes
[03:04] <holstein> funky2: when you actually have a 'new" ubuntu, you wont login and wipe anything
[03:04] <holstein> funky2: you are the same "dude".. they dont care because its your data.. you backup the data, and move it over
[03:05] <funky2> they care cause I pay
[03:05] <funky2> ;)
[03:05] <holstein> funky2: you can , assuming the host allows, clone the os
[03:05] <funky2> clone os ooo
[03:05] <funky2> does ubuntu itself have feature when i can select ubuntu server tar and it will install it?
[03:06] <funky2> or some soft to do it
[03:06] <holstein> funky2: ubuntu server *is* ubuntu
[03:06] <holstein> funky2: its already ubuntu at that point.. or, arguably ubuntu..
[03:06] <funky2> ok then soft to migrate all the stuff
[03:06] <funky2> email server
[03:06] <funky2> etc
[03:06] <holstein> funky2: this is an issue you need to ask the hosts.. i have *no* idea what access you have to what operating systems on what host
[03:06] <holstein> and what they allow
[03:07] <funky2> or hey I can simply copy paste ubuntu dirs!
[03:07] <funky2> )
[03:07] <holstein> funky2: you can, if they allow you to, clone, as i said, and move it
[03:07] <funky2> holstein:  what do u mean by os clone?
[03:07] <funky2> some link?
[03:07] <holstein> funky2: i mean, what youa re asking.. moving the operating system
[03:07] <funky2> my idea get same ubuntu on new box and then copy paste server dirs
[03:07] <funky2> :)
[03:07] <holstein> funky2: loading up something like clonezilla, and backing it up
[03:08] <funky2> it seems host dont want to allow for easy migration to keep customers
[03:08] <funky2> :)
[03:08] <holstein> funky2: getting 'same ubuntu on new box and copy paste' is what i meant when i said backup your data and move it over
[03:08] <adv> Hi all, Good Morning
[03:08] <funky2> yes I get it now
[03:08] <funky2> hey adv
[03:08] <holstein> though, you dont need, and might not get the same version
[03:09] <funky2> will it work with diff version?
[03:09] <holstein> funky2: also, those are *not* necassarily ubuntu
[03:09] <holstein> funky2: again, friend.. i have *no* idea what willl work with what.. since you may or may not be using ubuntu at a host.. the host is who will support you in this migration.. i would have my data backed up manually before hand
[03:10] <funky2> cool
[03:10] <Kiziaru> new to IRC, how do I view other "channels"?
[03:10] <funky2>  use / list
[03:10] <funky2> delete space
[03:10] <nerdtron> if you use XChat, Server> Join a channel
[03:11] <nerdtron> Kiziaru if you use XChat, Server> Join a channel
[03:11] <holstein> Kiziaru: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[03:11] <funky2> i wonder can I move email servers like pidgin between diff version of linuxes
[03:11] <funky2> in theory yes
[03:12] <funky2> well not pidgin I forgot the name
[03:12] <Kiziaru> i dont use xchar, but I clicked your link
[03:12] <Kiziaru> xchat*
[03:12] <funky2> courier
[03:12] <holstein> funky2: pidgin is not an email server
[03:12] <funky2> yes its no
[03:12] <funky2> I am sleepy hence the mess :D
[03:13] <holstein> funky2: you can learn to move anything anywhere.. its all open, and nothing is hiding.. but you need to seek support with the host..
[03:14] <holstein> funky2: i suggest manually backing up the data locally.. then, just migrate and actuallly have another server to discuss. if you cant sort out putting the data back, then you'll have something to actually discuss
[03:15] <funky2> yes
[03:15] <krz> whats a good alternative to gnome terminal?
[03:15] <funky2> win 7?
[03:15] <funky2> kidding :D
[03:15] <holstein> krz: i have beem using terminator
[03:15] <somsip> krz: urxvt-unicode
[03:15] <funky2> kde?
[03:15] <funky2> well thats gui
[03:15] <holstein> funky2: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[03:18] <krz> somsip: whats the package name?
[03:18] <holstein> !info urxvt
[03:18] <krz> rxvt-unicode?
[03:18] <somsip> info urxvt | krz
[03:18] <somsip> !info urxvt | krz
[03:18] <somsip> !info rxvt | krz
[03:19] <zykotick9> somsip: (i'm not actually sure what the question was, but) +1 to rxvt-unicode (aka urxvt)
[03:19] <zykotick9> !info rxvt-unicode
[03:19] <somsip> krz: looks like rxvt-unicode - my mistake
[03:19] <somsip> zykotick9: alternative to gnome-terminal required FWIW
[03:20] <zykotick9> somsip: gnome-terminal is weak ;)
[03:20] <holstein> lxterminal is a lot like gnome-terminal
[03:21] <nerdtron> how about xfce4-terminal
[03:21] <bob__> ctrl+alt+F1-F6 usually work fine for me
[03:22] <zykotick9> bob__: that's kinda funny, linux-console is probably the worst terminal of all ;)
[03:22] <lilred> hey guys, I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows 8. I installed Ubuntu after installing Windows but Ubuntu is not showing up in the GRUB menu. memory test and Windows 8 are showing up however.
[03:23] <holstein> lilred: i would boot ubuntu and run "sudo update-grub" and see if it picks up windows
[03:23] <bob__> gotsta be hardcore fo sho
[03:23] <lilred> holstein: windows is already there, it's Ubuntu that doesn't appear.
[03:24] <lilred> holstein: I tried booting into live cd, chroot into my Ubuntu install and running update-grub2 but I get a permission denied error
[03:24] <holstein> lilred: you cant try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:24] <nerdtron> lilred is your machine UEFI? did you disable before installing ubuntu?
[03:24] <nerdtron> lilred sudo ??
[03:24] <lilred> nerdtron: I don't know if my machine is UEFI, how can I check^
[03:24] <lilred> nerdtron: also yes I did use sudo, the permission denied error persists.
[03:25] <lilred> the error message is very interesting
[03:25] <nerdtron> lilred in the BIOS...if your computer is new it might be enabled by default...
[03:25] <lilred> nerdtron: is Ubuntu incompatible with UEFI?
[03:25] <nerdtron> lilred then try the Boot-Repair link by holstein
[03:26] <nerdtron> lilred it is, but i don't know in dualboot screnario
[03:26] <nerdtron> it is compatible with uefi
[03:27] <lilred> which paste service should I use for my logs? I think the error message is worth looking at
[03:27] <nerdtron> pastebin
[03:28] <lilred> I think my Ubuntu install is broken, it has no /dev/null and no /dev/pts
[03:29] <lilred> alright guys check this out: http://pastebin.com/DdNREf5b
[03:29] <lilred> nerdtron holstein http://pastebin.com/DdNREf5b
[03:30] <lilred> wait, I actually have a /dev/null... Why is it saying it can't create it -_-
[03:32] <nerdtron> lilred I think boot repair can still save your problem..please give it a try..
[03:32] <lilred> nerdtron: I'm currently doing that :D
[03:33] <lilred> I'm a real life systems developer, this pisses me off quite a bit
[03:35] <zykotick9> !tab > nerdtron save some typing ;)
[03:35] <ffio> is gnome3 officially supported by ubuntu ?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> ffio, gnome 3 underlies unity is the gnome-shell and part of the fallback desktop.
[03:37] <ffio> hi wilee-nilee :)
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> hi
[03:39] <ffio> wilee-nilee: so gnome3 would work without any issues.
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> ffio, what I was trying to explain is that gnome 3 is part of multiple desktops, so what version do you want.
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> the gnome-shell is basically gnome 3 is that what you mean it looks like the release.
[03:42] <ffio> gnome 3.8
[03:43] <Licide> Hello
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> ffio, 3.8 is in 13.10 any desktops before that are  ppa versions of 3.8, ppa's are not supprted here is all
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> if you want 3.8 in any before you would use the ppa is what I mean
[03:44] <ffio> wilee-nilee: now getting your point.
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> sorry. ;)
[03:44] <ffio> sorry ? why what happened ?
[03:45] <Licide> USB does not boot, it isn't in boot menu but USB boot is enabled. .-.
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> Just my explanation is slightly convoluted.
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> Licide, What is on the usb, and how is it formatted?
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> Licide, Boot menu, in the bios?
[03:46] <Licide> I installed from what it says on the Ubuntu site
[03:47] <Licide> and yes
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> Licide, does the computer boot usb's?
[03:47] <Licide> USB boot is enabled
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> Licide, where?
[03:47] <Licide> in BIOS
[03:48] <ffio> even cinnamon is buggy :(
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> Licide, So what is the app that the site says to use to load the usb with ubuntu?
[03:49] <Licide> Universal-USB-Installer
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> Licide, So your saying the you see no usb listed in the bios boot list of HD's, cd's..etc with it plugged in?
[03:51] <Licide> yes
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> Licide, Could be that the usb is being read as a cd, could be a bad load of the usb, several possibilities, you have it plugged in when you start the computer to go to the bios?
[03:53] <Licide> I installed it to usb 3 times
[03:53] <Licide> and yes
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> Licide, I have found that usb loader to be problematic when I tried a while back, try unetbootin another loader, just to see if the usb shows.
[03:54] <Licide> first 2 times from Ubuntu and now on Universal-USB-Installer
[03:54] <Licide> i might try unet
[03:55] <Licide> It worked every other time on my laptops though
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> Licide, What is the list you see in the bios in that boot section?
[03:55] <revelrevol> Wiliee, Licide, hi--want to mention that I just had success not with Universal USB Installer but with wubi
[03:56] <Licide> I don't remember
[03:56] <Licide> and I don't want wubi :P
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> Licide, Could also be a bad download, you can check the ISO's md5sum. You could also see if the list is the same with and without the usb, to confirm being read as another media.
[03:57] <revelrevol> Licide...sorry, did I miss that from earlier? just joined. I checked the ubuntu website for certified hardware and downloaded the version (12.04 LTS) that was certified for my hardware. U-USB Inst wouldn't work for me several times over.
[03:58] <Licide> I redownloaded every time
[03:58] <revelrevol> what do you view as a negative regarding wubi?
[03:58] <Licide> I just want a real install :P
[03:59] <revelrevol> ? mine is a dual boot, but quite real
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> revelrevol, You might read what the wubi designer says about it. Wubi is not a dualboot it is a file in windows.
[04:01] <revelrevol> sure wilee
[04:01] <hongker> exit
[04:01] <lonejack> Hi, does anyone know how to change (non admin) user privileges(connect wifi, allow sw upgrade) on 12.04?
[04:02] <lonejack> on previous vesrion that was possible
[04:02] <Licide> brb
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> lonejack, Can you explain that more clearly using full words?
[04:05] <map> can anyone lend a hand with this broadcom problem I'm having?
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> lonejack, So is it you want updates from a standard account?
[04:05] <NeverHere> map, have you tried installing restricted drivers?
[04:05] <zykotick9> lonejack: i'd A) suggest adding that user to sudo group (admin) or B) wrestle with sudoers for those tasks.  good luck.
[04:05] <LicideWiiU> me that
[04:05] <Licide> me
[04:06] <lonejack> wilee-nilee, I've a laptop. I'm the admin. I want to give the laptop to a non expert user. I created a new user but I wuold like to allowe him to connect to genric (new) wifi
[04:06] <map> ive tried almost everything i can find NeverHere  =[ removed bcmwl-kernel-source then installed linux-firmware-nonfree hd to do that off a usb stick as i had no wired connection either
[04:06] <map> then i ran apt-get upograde and wireless worked..rebooted and it's gone=[
[04:06] <LicideWiiU> ill use this :P
[04:06] <lonejack> zykotick9, ok
[04:06] <lonejack> zykotick9, create a new group
[04:07] <NeverHere> map could i maybe be a hardware issue?
[04:07] <zykotick9> lonejack: no.  sudo is a default group - that allows sudo use.
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> lonejack, If you have wifi set to auto login and it is the same nick and password they will.
[04:07] <map> yea it is in that broadcoms are a pain:D but thats all afaik
[04:08] <researcher123> By what command line can I know my RAM on Ubuntu 13.04?
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> wifi does not need admin in general anyway
[04:08] <zykotick9> researcher123: "free -m" is one way
[04:08] <NeverHere> map i hate to ask the stupid question but is the wifi on, some computers let you disable the wifi with a keypress
[04:08] <NeverHere> x.x
[04:08] <map> there's no button on this laptop mate=[
[04:08] <researcher123> zykotick9: ok.trying
[04:08] <map> ive checked rfkill list all
[04:09] <map> and it says hardware/software no to locing it
[04:09] <NeverHere> map is beyond my lack of expertise sorry
[04:09] <NeverHere> :p
[04:10] <map> thanks anyway pal
[04:11] <NeverHere> map when you plug in the ethernet you don't get anything either?
[04:11] <map> i do now
[04:11] <map> got wired
[04:11] <map> but i wanted to use it upstairs!
[04:11] <NeverHere> does it detect wifi? and not connect? or not detect it at all?
[04:12] <map> it doesnt list any networks at all..but iwconfig shows wlan0 as does ifconfig
[04:12] <map> and lspci --nnk says its using b43-pci-bridge
[04:12] <adv> bye 4 now...
[04:12] <NeverHere> map i suggest a usb wifi dongle from walmart ;)
[04:12] <map> hah :)
[04:12] <LicideWiiU> with usb: CBM in boot menu
[04:13] <LicideWiiU> tha?
[04:13] <LicideWiiU> that?
[04:15] <LicideWiiU> oh CBM looks like it, i thought i did it alrady x
[04:18] <lonejack> zykotick9, wilee-nilee , for your interest with 'gnome-system-tools' you can manage the user privileges on a system
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> LicideWiiU, What you may not know is there is a boot from menu that is outside of the bios, I use it, it is a par-session boot, the bios splash will tell you the key prompt generally, mine is f12, That is the easiest way to try various boots.
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> lonejack, I have never used a gui to manage these areas.
[04:25] <TechTonics> does anyone know how to remove a package if it was installed from the tarball?
[04:26] <NeverHere> TechTonics, did you install it with Make?
[04:26] <jpds> TechTonics: Yes, run make uninstall from the build directory.
[04:26] <TechTonics> yes i used to make
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> TechTonics, Did you read the read me?
[04:29] <mojtaba> Hi, could you please let me know what are the differences between different distros (except desktop environments like KDE, GNOME, UNITY, ...)? I mean why there is lots of distros?
[04:29] <TechTonics> there is no uninstall and the README has nothing to do with removing
[04:29] <jpds> TechTonics: Just run "make uninstall".
[04:29] <TechTonics> i'm trying to remove ruby 2.0 if that helps
[04:30] <NeverHere> TechTonics, sometimes you can do apt-get remove ruby
[04:30] <jpds> TechTonics: You did run "make install" to install it.
[04:30] <NeverHere> that might remove the package
[04:30] <jpds> NeverHere: Package might not even be installed.
[04:30] <patrick_> wow my experience so far with my Lenovo T531 on Ubuntu 13.04 has been piss poor.
[04:30] <map> mojtaba,  some you have to compile specifically for your machine which means its more complicated but also faster then
[04:30] <map> patrick_,  wireless?
[04:30] <TechTonics> jpds : yes i used make install
[04:31] <patrick_> nvidia happened to it.
[04:31] <map> ah
[04:31] <TechTonics> NeverHere : apt-get doesn't see i have installed
[04:31] <patrick_> Optimus. :(
[04:31] <TechTonics> jpds : make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[04:31] <NeverHere> TechTonics, when you ran make install, did it tell you insuffiecent permissions?
[04:31] <Bergle> map: are programs you compile yourself really noticably faster than regular packaged ones?
[04:31] <patrick_> more like, Optimshit
[04:31] <TechTonics> nope  .. had to use sudo
[04:32] <jpds> mojtaba: Why are there a lot of distros? Because have different thoughts on how to do things.
[04:32] <zykotick9> TechTonics: using source tarballs, means there is no way other then what that tarball offers.  Why you might want to use "/msg ubottu checkinstall" for an alternative!
[04:32] <NeverHere> TechTonics, do nano MAKEFILE and search for something like uninstall or remove or similar then exit and do make <whatever>
[04:33] <jpds> mojtaba: Because people have different*
[04:33] <user> سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ ?
[04:33] <mojtaba> jpds: Could you please give an example?
[04:34] <mojtaba> jpds: map: I can do what I want to do with every distro, cann't I?
[04:34] <map> modprobe -l l
[04:34] <map> oops
[04:34] <jpds> mojtaba: Erm, like some people think it's better to compile everything (Gentoo), while others prefer binary packages.
[04:34] <jpds> !ot | mojtaba, anyway
[04:36] <mojtaba> Any other answer? jpds:map
[04:36] <jpds> !ot | mojtaba, not here, go to the OT channel.
[04:36] <map> no sorry
[04:38] <mojtaba> jpds: ok, thank you anyway
[04:40] <uuball_gabriel> Hi, I wanna to build a deb package of kernel debug info, but when i use "fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic skipdbg=false" , the result is "make: *** No rule to make target `binary-generic'.  Stop."
[04:40] <awc737> wtf ubuntu 13.04, how do you not have a working suspend or hibernate
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> !ar | user
[04:40] <awc737> i had debian installed for months, never had a problem.
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> doh
[04:40] <Ziber> If I have a server that is using a LAN IP as it's resolver (10.220.1.10) and 10.220.1.10 is using public DNS, shouldn't the first server be able to resolve stuff?
[04:40] <uuball_gabriel> what should i do ?
[04:40] <awc737> just installed ubuntu, closed the lid and put it in my bad
[04:40] <awc737> a few hours later to pull it out, damn near melting
[04:40] <awc737> i'll be damned if theres no internal damage
[04:40] <uuball_gabriel>  Hi, I wanna to build a deb package of kernel debug info, but when i use "fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic skipdbg=false" , the result is "make: *** No rule to make target `binary-generic'.  Stop."
[04:40] <uuball_gabriel> what happend?
[04:40] <dr_willis> hibernate is disabled by default i belive
[04:41] <awc737> i want to throw something at ubuntu so bad
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> !il |user
[04:41] <awc737> well that's a dangerous hazard
[04:41] <dr_willis> rant elsewhere.  we focus on support
[04:41] <uuball_gabriel>  Hi, I wanna to build a deb package of kernel debug info, but when i use "fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic skipdbg=false" , the result is "make: *** No rule to make target `binary-generic'.  Stop."
[04:41] <awc737> if my keyboard melted would you support that
[04:42] <dr_willis> there are guides out on how to ensble hibernate
[04:42] <Ziber> 10.220.1.50 uses 10.220.1.10 as it's nameserver. 10.220.1.10 uses public IPs for resolving. Shouldn't 10.220.1.50 be able to resolve? It's saying that it timed out...
[04:42] <awc737> dr_willis, it's dangerous to assume that everyone should know hibernate is disabled
[04:42] <awc737> especially coming from any other OS
[04:42] <awc737> if it had been there an  hour or two more, literally melted or caught fire
[04:43] <dr_willis> awc737:  rant in another channel. it wont help to do it here
[04:43] <dr_willis> or on the forums
[04:44] <NielsMkn> this sucks
[04:45] <dr_willis> !details
[04:45] <Ziber> Anyone? resolv.conf issue?
[04:47] <dr_willis> Ziber:  askununtu.com may have some info on it. ive never had any issues  here.  or rarely see them mentioned here
[04:49] <patrick_> "I have a problem with nvidia optimus on Ubuntu 13.04..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do multimonitor support..., I get the following output: *turd emoticon* ..., but I expected it to do *not turd emoticon*"
[04:49] <JeffATL> i have jsut installed 12.04 on a gateway netbook with ati radeon and when i boot up i get a very scrambled screen; my mouse pointer is a yellow block about a half inch wide with some lines and dots in it.  if i manage to start e.g. firefox, the google page displays normally among all the mess but the text in the window title bar, tab, and the letters on the page to the right of the three round gray icons is messed up
[04:49] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[04:51] <dr_willis> try the fglrx drivers on that pc  JeffATL ?
[04:51] <zykotick9> Ziber: modern ubuntu versions don't use resolv.conf
[04:52] <Ziber> zykotick9: ?
[04:53] <dr_willis> !resolv
[04:53] <zykotick9> Ziber: you want /etc/networks/interfaces i believe, but i don't know the details.
[04:53] <JeffATL> is there a way i can intercede at boot time to try nomodeset?
[04:53] <dr_willis> JeffATL: at the grub menu
[04:54] <dr_willis> i think the url above shows how exactly.
[04:55] <dr_willis> hold shift. get to grub editir with 'e'   change line to be  'noquiet nofb nosplash'   ..  or somthing like that
[04:55] <JeffATL> dr_willis: ok, i think i can follow that.  how can i effect a clean reboot, given that i can't figure out how from the screen?  or can i just hold down the power button and make it die?
[04:55] <dr_willis> oops.. add a nomodeset in there
[04:56] <dr_willis> hold power for a few sec   forces it off
[04:56] <dr_willis> alt ctrl f1  then alt ctrl del.. may reboot also
[04:56] <dr_willis> or ssh in and reboot
[04:57] <dr_willis> you may want to boot into tect mode and install ssh to make things easier.to debug
[04:57] <dr_willis> text mode
[04:57] <dr_willis> !text
[04:58] <zykotick9> !resolv.conf > Ziber
[05:00] <Ziber> Ah, hm.
[05:00] <Ziber> It's 1am and I'm gonna head to bed. Thanks for that though.
[05:00] <sepero> dr_willis: what do i do to start my computer in 2d mode?
[05:02] <dr_willis> no such thing.. clarify what you mean.
[05:02] <JeffATL> ok - nomodeset cured the scrambling but my resolution is wrong - it's like i've got 4:3 stretched horizontally to 16:9
[05:03] <dr_willis> JeffATL: try the fglrx drivers
[05:03] <sepero> dr_willis: no such thing? dang dawg. you'z illin' my netbook yo  :)
[05:03] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, what kind of AMD card do you have?
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> JeffATL, Have you run a update in this process?
[05:04] <UnderSampled> I'm trying to open a windows share, so I went to smb://host.domain.com/share and put in my credentials into the auth box
[05:04]  * sepero gives dr_willis hugs
[05:04] <dr_willis> sepero:  if you want a lighter desktop install lubuntu-desktop
[05:04] <UnderSampled> then it gave the error : Failed to mount Windows share: Name not unique on network
[05:04] <Silver_Arrow> marvin@marvin-laptop:~/Desktop/qjoypad-4.1.0/src$ ./config
[05:04] <Silver_Arrow> Error: you will need libxtst to compile this program
[05:04] <Silver_Arrow> E: Unable to locate package libxtst
[05:04] <JeffATL> Ari-Yang: it says amd radeon on the label; i'd run lspci if only i knew how to get a terminal window
[05:04] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, run this in terminal lspci | grep VGA
[05:05] <Silver_Arrow> Anybody know where to find this package?
[05:05] <sepero> dr_willis: thanks man. i'm rockin' that lxpanel on openbox right now and it's niiice  :)
[05:05] <NeverHere> Silver_Arrow, try apt-get install libxtst*
[05:05] <UnderSampled> how am I suppose to resolve this?
[05:05] <JeffATL> wilee-nilee: no updates yet
[05:05] <dr_willis> Silver_Arrow:  search the repos?
[05:05] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, if you're using unity, hit the dash board icon and type in and search for terminal
[05:05] <NeverHere> Silver_Arrow, if too many replies don't install
[05:05] <JeffATL> Ari-Yang: thank you
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> JeffATL, run a update first to get caught up then identify the card>
[05:05] <dr_willis> !source
[05:06] <dr_willis> !compile
[05:06] <Ari-Yang> wilee-nilee, him updating will take longer than 10sec to find out card info, lol
[05:06] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, so did you find out the card?...
[05:06] <Silver_Arrow> that did the trick
[05:06] <Silver_Arrow> I'm rustier than I though I was at this x_x
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> Ari-Yang, Ah thabnks for the reminder why I keep you ignored.
[05:07] <Ari-Yang> pardon?
[05:07] <JeffATL> says amd (nee ATI) RS690M (radeon X1200 series)
[05:08] <Ari-Yang> okay JeffATL, in the dash board search for software updater, open it, if there are updates install...
[05:08] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, then after if things are still out of whack, open up the dash board, search for software sources, go to the "additional drivers" tab of it, then select fglrx and hit apply, and after, update.
[05:09] <JeffATL> Ari-Yang: i assume i also need to find and edit my grub.conf to make the nomodeset persist
[05:11] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, if that's a command line, then I guess you'd edit /etc/default/grub file then
[05:11] <UnderSampled> I'm trying to open a windows share, so I went to smb://host.domain.com/share and put in my credentials into the auth box
[05:12] <UnderSampled> then it gave the error : Failed to mount Windows share: Name not unique on network
[05:12] <UnderSampled> how am I suppose to resolve this?
[05:12] <Ari-Yang> and then add it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " line
[05:12] <Cheekio> where does one report bugs?
[05:12] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, in terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[05:12] <Cheekio> is there a #ubuntu-bugs
[05:12] <Ari-Yang> and make the line look like this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" save it, then run in terminal sudo update-grub
[05:12] <Ari-Yang> ^ JeffATL
[05:13] <Cheekio> also, thanks everybody here for being helpful for pretty much no reason other than for being helpful. Channels like #ubuntu are why I'm glad I'm an open source guy.
[05:13] <dylan> So I installed Ubuntu alongside windows, and now I just get "grub>" on boot
[05:14] <linocisco> hi all
[05:14] <linocisco> what is the best Travel and Tour management software?
[05:14] <NeverHere> dylan, does your system have UEFI?
[05:14] <dylan> NeverHere: I'm on a Lenovo THinkpad T-530
[05:14] <dylan> I don't think that has UEFI
[05:15] <NeverHere> dylan, you can try reinstall, you have the right bit i assume, 32 64 etc
[05:15] <dylan> re-install what?
[05:15] <NeverHere> ubuntu u.u
[05:16] <dylan> Is there no way to fix grub?
[05:16] <NeverHere> maybe, but not that i know of
[05:16] <NeverHere> :P
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> dylan, you want just windows? If you remove the linux you remove the key grub stuff.
[05:17] <Ben66> dylan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> dylan, Do you have more than one HD?
[05:17] <Silver_Arrow> is it normal to have to sudo make install instead of make install?
[05:18] <NeverHere> Silver_Arrow, yes
[05:18] <Silver_Arrow> also, when I try to launch qjoypad from a terminal with or without sudo, nothing pops up
[05:18] <Ben66> Silver_Arrow: you need sudo if its going to modify any system directories. be careful installing things like that because it could cause dependency problems
[05:19] <NeverHere> Silver_Arrow, you can see what is running with ps aux
[05:19] <JeffATL> i used sudo instead of gksudo - thought the nomodeset change took but now i'm back to a scrambled screen
[05:20] <Silver_Arrow> well, the terminal moves to the begining of the next line and doesn't accept input, so something is running, but no window
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> JeffATL, Did you udate-grub
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> update*
[05:20] <JeffATL> wilee-nilee: nope - thanks; i forgot
[05:21] <JeffATL> i've been accustomed to editing a grub.conf directly and rebooting; my bad
[05:26] <linocisco> what is the best Travel and Tour management software?
[05:26] <zykotick9> !best > linocisco
[05:26] <dr_willis> JeffATL: grub menu edit lasts one time
[05:27] <dr_willis> JeffATL:  edit /etc/default/grub for perment changes
[05:27] <linocisco> zykotick9, so known to be good softwares in ENglish.
[05:27] <JeffATL> i'm not finding "software sources" in the dashboard - there's "ubuntu software center..."
[05:28] <dr_willis> JeffATL: that has a menu item in it for sources
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, then maybe to go system settings and search from there?
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> *shrugs*
[05:29] <rasanen7> Hello, I have a samba mount point where the filenames include umlauts and whatnot. I can't access those files due to those chars. I've tried to mount.cifs it with using iocharset (utf8, iso8859-1) with no luck. Any hints?
[05:29] <dr_willis> from terminal its like gnome-source-? or somthing.  :-P
[05:29] <JeffATL> "additional drivers" is in "system settings"
[05:30] <dr_willis> software-properties-gtk   may be it.
[05:30] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, so you found it, yes? you see the 'Additional Drivers' tab?
[05:30] <dr_willis> its on the last tab of the sources setti g tool in the latest releases
[05:31] <JeffATL> Ari-Yang: it's not a tab; it's an icon - first one under "hardware"
[05:31] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, right.
[05:31] <Ari-Yang> forgot you're on 12.04
[05:31] <Ari-Yang> JeffATL, if you see flgrx and fglrx (updates), choose fglrx (updates)
[05:31] <JeffATL> it has the "searching for available drivers" thing just going and going
[05:32] <zykotick9> rasanen7: <don't reply to me> "Any hints?" = stop using samba
[05:32] <JeffATL> it just ended saying "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[05:32] <dr_willis> or check askubuntu.com or #samba or stackexchange
[05:34] <rasanen7> zykotick9: point taken, though inevitable at the moment :P
[05:35] <JeffATL> now, if i go to ub software center and search for fglrx, i get "XvBA-based backend for VA API (AMD fglrx implementation)"
[05:36] <dr_willis> !ati
[05:38] <Silver_Arrow> Hmm, how do I run a command, but not bind it to the terminal it started from?
[05:39] <looped> hi. im trying to use bind9 to configure a local dns so that i can control resolving one subdomain (x.y.com) using private ips. ive setup a zone file for y.com and only entered records for x.y.com which works well, however that causes other subdomains of y.com to not resolve anymore
[05:39] <looped> if i add just zone "x.y.com" in my named.conf.local then none of the subdomains resolve.
[05:40] <dr_willis> Silver_Arrow:  bash job controll basics. use &. or nohup. or screen ;-)
[05:40] <dr_willis> command  &
[05:41] <dr_willis> or ctrl-z.   then 'bg'  for background
[05:41] <looped> sorry, correction - if i change my named.conf.local to use zone "x.y.com" all other subdomains resolve using the external dns correctly, but the x.y.com subdomain fails to resolve.
[05:43] <VioByte> looped, thats because you don't have the zone populated with what the authoritative dns has.
[05:43] <looped> VioByte: i did create a zone file which has entries for x.y.com
[05:43] <VioByte> looped, but no others.
[05:44] <looped> thats right. so i guess my question is - how do i correctly set this up so that my local configuration is *only* used for the one subdomain
[05:44] <JeffATL> re the above ati link - i'm having trouble mapping lspci results to the choices there
[05:44] <VioByte> looped, See the first DNS that says "HEY i manage that domains records" will respond to any and all requests for that domain. thus cached in your dns lookup tables
[05:45] <JeffATL> lspci says amd/ati RS690M [radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]
[05:45] <VioByte> looped, But as for what your attempting todo "Control one subdomain of a domain managed by another dns" wont work.
[05:46] <VioByte> unless there's a trick i've not ran across yet.
[05:46] <histo> JeffATL: to the choices where?
[05:46] <JeffATL> histo: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[05:46] <looped> VioByte: ouch.
[05:46] <looped> i'm wondering if i could use forwarding?
[05:47] <JeffATL> histo: and fwiw, this is a gateway netbook
[05:47] <histo> JeffATL: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English
[05:47] <histo> JeffATL: http://askubuntu.com/questions/155352/problem-graphics-with-ati-radeon-x1270-rs690m-on-ubuntu-12-04
[05:48] <VioByte> looped.. you could try to make a copy of the authority dns' records. but if they update there records.. your records would be out of date.
[05:48] <looped> VioByte: well these are my own domains
[05:48] <VioByte> but af for forwarding... not that i'm aware of.. If your dns managed that domain then it will not forward any failed lookups for that domain to another dns
[05:49] <histo> VioByte: why not use the other dns for secondary
[05:49] <Ben66> looped: you should just change the dns for real
[05:49] <looped> but i was hoping not to have too much duplications (the actual records are in route53). i basically *only* want two of my servers to contact an endpoint using a LAN
[05:49] <histo> VioByte: make his local one primary and ISPs secondary
[05:49] <looped> Ben66: i dont want to change it for all servers, just specific ones
[05:50] <JeffATL> histo: i have done the nomodeset thing so i don't have a scrambled screen, but i'm stuck with 1024x768 resolution only (wrong aspect ratio for screen besides)
[05:50] <Ben66> looped: that makes no sense
[05:50] <VioByte> histo: the first DNS that says "Hey i host the records" will respond and if the zone record does not exists, it will return not found.
[05:50] <histo> JeffATL: yes you need fglrx
[05:50] <VioByte> histo: it will not fail over to the ISP
[05:50] <looped> Ben66: sorry, i should have said, i dont want all clients of the x.y.com host to see the change.
[05:50] <VioByte> histo: since it already got a response from the first dns
[05:50] <histo> !info fglrx-legacy
[05:51] <Ben66> looped: still makes no sense. thats not how dns works
[05:51] <JeffATL> histo: i know; that's what i'm trying to achieve now
[05:53] <dr_willis> most netbooks ive seen use intel video. not ati
[05:54] <histo> JeffATL: you need the legacy driver from the other links section on the ubottu page. http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx  this one
[05:54] <JeffATL> dr_willis: please.  label on top and lspci say ati
[05:54] <histo> dr_willis: hopefully it's not a intel/amd combo card he'll really be crying later
[05:54] <dr_willis> if you say so. ive got 4+ netbooks. never seen an ati one
[05:55] <dr_willis> histo:  that would be weird in a netbook. ;-)
[05:55] <JeffATL> dr_willis: FOUR?? that's really exhaustive, there....
[05:55] <histo> dr_willis: it's out there
[05:55] <dr_willis> grandkids..
[05:56] <dr_willis> just right for the little ones
[06:02] <JeffATL> the instructions for this ati-driver-installer-...64.run say i need some packages installed.  tried apt-get install zlib ("zlib" is listed) but get "unable to locate package"
[06:03] <JeffATL> sighm same with freetype
[06:03] <linocisco> what are the known to be good travel and tour management softwares in ENglish?
[06:04] <Senjai> linocisco: why dont you google it
[06:04] <VioByte> JeffATL: apt-get update?
[06:04] <linocisco> Senjai, can't find
[06:04] <Senjai> linocisco: what makes you think we'd know then?
[06:04] <Senjai> linocisco: this is a channel about ubuntu, not travel.
[06:04] <Rallias> Isn't init 6 supposed to kindly reboot a linux machine?
[06:04] <linocisco> Senjai, u r the big community
[06:04] <JeffATL> VioByte: thanks
[06:04] <linocisco> i want linux based
[06:05] <Senjai> linocisco: we R the wrong community for you ;)
[06:05] <Senjai> linocisco: Well keep searching, or code your own (tm)
[06:05] <linocisco> i mean software
[06:05] <JeffATL> VioByte: same; no zlib found
[06:05] <linocisco> not about travel and tour
[06:05] <Senjai> linocisco: you just said travel and tour
[06:05] <VioByte> JeffATL: odd.
[06:05] <VioByte> JeffATL: try apt-cache search zlib
[06:06] <Senjai> linocisco: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/ knock yourself out
[06:06] <JeffATL> VioByte: perhaps zlib-bin?
[06:06] <linocisco> I just want names of software somebody is using with no errors
[06:07] <VioByte> JeffATL: possible.
[06:07] <JeffATL> linocisco: i think part of the problem is that i don't think any of us even knows what "travel and tour software" even means.
[06:07] <VioByte> JeffATL if its not it then you can uninstall what you just installed with apt-get remove <packagename>
[06:08] <VioByte> JeffATL: so you don't have unneeded stuff installed and taking up space.
[06:09] <VioByte> JeffATL: and if you know what file its looking for you can "apt-get install apt-file" then "apt-file update" then "apt-file search <filename>"
[06:09] <VioByte> JeffATL: that'll show you what package has that file
[06:10] <JeffATL> VioByte: i think these instructions are just being obtuse; it says "libraries for xxxx" so it's a matter of apt-cache search like you suggested just to make an edu guess as to the package name
[06:10] <histo> !find zlib-bin
[06:11] <VioByte> JeffATL: Well it should install its depends automatically.
[06:11] <dr_willis> for compiling you normally need the -dev packages
[06:12] <VioByte> JeffATL: if you are getting the package from apt-get.. unless, what you are trying to install was downloading and not available on apt-get
[06:13] <VioByte> JeffATL: then its almost a guessing game on what it wants.
[06:13] <dr_willis> so.. what are you installing/doing exactly?
[06:13] <JeffATL> dr_willis: you mean me?
[06:14] <VioByte> dr_willis, depends if its a bin install or compiled.
[06:14] <dr_willis> you are the one trying to install somthing JeffATL ?
[06:14] <VioByte> dr_willis, If its a required dev package for a compilation.. then thats easy to find and fix.
[06:15] <VioByte> as for bins... they usually have libraries included
[06:15] <JeffATL> dr_willis: my top-level goal is to be able to run this ATI at the display's best resolution (will only do 1024x768 now; wrong aspect ratio) and also be able to use an external monitor (not mirror mode)
[06:16] <JeffATL> this has sent me down a rabbit hole where i'm trying to figure out if i have CFree86-Mesa-libGL and seven other things
[06:17] <VioByte> JeffATL, Hope you get it resolved.
[06:17]  * VioByte goes back to work.
[06:17] <JeffATL> oh lord...
[06:18] <JeffATL> tried to run the ati installer; died saying "error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[06:19] <dr_willis_> this is that legacy fglrx driver that was mentioned earlier?
[06:19] <JeffATL> dr_willis_: yes
[06:20] <dr_willis_> it may be it has code to check kernel versions.  that sort of sounds like what its sawing
[06:20] <dr_willis_> saying
[06:21] <JeffATL> dr_willis_: ohhhhh goddddd - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221221
[06:23] <histo> dr_willis_: don't the default fglrx drivers have support for legacy cards
[06:24] <dr_willis_> i have 1 ati system left these days.  open sourced drivers work for me with it.
[06:25] <JeffATL> histo: i'm certainly willing to go that route...what do i do, apt-get install fglrx?
[06:25] <columb> Used my ssd with system on other then my hardware. After I got back to my PC system started using "Vesa: -100" as video driver. Why it's switched to it?
[06:25] <dr_willis_> but ati cleans out old stuff from their fglrx drivers as fast as they can. sadly
[06:25] <histo> JeffATL: yes
[06:25] <JeffATL> dr_willis_: my issue is that i can't run with just this nasty 1024x768 resolution
[06:25] <histo> !xrandr | JeffATL
[06:26] <dr_willis_> my netbooks  dont have that high a res.  ;-)
[06:26] <Anonynimity> Hi
[06:26] <histo> dr_willis_: that sux
[06:27] <dr_willis_> they are 2± yrs old.  ;-)  some were rummage sale $40 specials
[06:29] <dr_willis_> they dont have high enough res to run wesnoth. :-(
[06:29] <ksinkar> how to check if the Alt-Gr key is recognized by my Ubuntu and it works? I keyboard layout from keyboard settings does not help me with this
[06:30] <Ben66> ksinkar: xev
[06:33] <Huzoubache> ?
[06:38] <JeffATL> trying to apt-get install fglrx died; in the log is says "kernel includes at /lib/modules/3.8.0-29-generic/build/include not found or incomplete" - sounds like i'm maybe just missing a package?
[06:39] <NeverHere> TURKEH!!!!!!
[06:39] <dr_willis_> the apt get should pull in all it needs. unless you got a custome kernel
[06:39] <histo> JeffATL: you probably need to apt-get update && apt-get upgrade first
[06:39] <dr_willis_> !headers
[06:40] <JeffATL> dr_willis_: no; just as the install laid it in
[06:40] <dr_willis_> you mean rhe. run driver? or the apt-get install?
[06:42] <dr_willis_> id concure. the  apt-get  update and upgrade. and perhaps a  apt-get dist-upgrade  to be sure all is at the latest version.
[06:42] <JeffATL> dr_willis_: says linux-headers... already installed
[06:45] <JeffATL> dr_willis_: ok, all that update/ugrade/dist-upgrade is done
[06:45] <xrfang> hi, is there a way to show "Start-up application" in the system menu (top right of the panel) in 13.04?
[06:46] <dr_willis_> if the kernel got updated you should reboot. then try to install the fglrx thing again
[06:46] <xrfang> I can start gnome-session-properties manually, but it would be nice to be accessed via system menu
[06:46] <histo> xrfang: then create a launcher
[06:47] <xrfang> histo, I can create a launcher, but I don't know how to create an menu item in system menu.
[06:53] <JeffATL> ok, fglrx has installed but i'm stull stuck at 1024x768 resolution with no alternatives in the system settings / displays thing
[06:58] <helmut_> hi
[07:02] <see1> good morning
[07:02] <see1> is here every1 who can help with php-fpm ?
[07:02] <MordFustang> I created shell script in /usr/local/bin/watching and add entry in /etc/crontab @reboot     pi    watching | and its not working can anyone help me?
[07:02] <bazhang> !details | see1
[07:03] <bazhang> MordFustang, try #bash
[07:03] <MordFustang> bazhang script is working if I run it manualy
[07:04] <ElectricPrism> can anyone reccomend me a US hosting company with good support?
[07:04] <bazhang> ElectricPrism, #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:04] <ElectricPrism> !ignore
[07:05] <MordFustang> join #bash
[07:05] <see1> bazhang: i have this problem  FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream | i found a lot on the web, but it will not work..i get crazy
[07:05] <bazhang> ElectricPrism, it's offtopic here, use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[07:06] <bazhang> see1, what version of ubuntu, trying to accomplish what ^exactly^, pastebin the command and the errors
[07:07] <bazhang> !paste | see1
[07:08] <dr_willis_> JeffATL: the fglrx drvers come with some amd control center tool to tweak settings..  amdccle or somthing like that
[07:14] <JeffATL> dr_willis_: i'll look for that; thanks
[07:16] <JeffATL> dr_willis_: installing fglrx still gets me a ways in then "error: bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.8.0-29-generic"
[07:17] <JeffATL> log file cited still says "kernel includes at /lib/modules/3.8.0-29-generic/build/include not found or incomplete"
[07:20] <eltigre> hey, I am having trouble with CPU temperatures (I think...). I've read tons of posts, but I can't figure out if my cpu temperature is actually called "CPU" in psensors or "temp1"
[07:21] <JeffATL> wow - it looks like that is a brand new bug!! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1218037
[07:21] <eltigre> the problem being I have read "k10temp-pci-00c3" is the actual core temperature, and when I ramp up the cpu the "cpu" value gets to 85° which is way beyond max temperature
[07:22] <JeffATL> actually, it's a dupe that's a day old; the error goes back a ways
[07:23] <mikubuntu> don't know what to do with this laptop -- it won't boot -- only goes to this screen msg, can anybody make any sense of it? sorry the image is not very clear :: http://imagebin.org/269196
[07:24] <JeffATL> i'm just going to move on with 13.04; if that doesn't work i'll just try another distro; this is madness
[07:34] <JeffATL> ok, what's really pathetic is that the ubuntu dvd knows what to do with the graphics
[07:35] <JeffATL> well, except for the scrambling.  never mind.
[07:44] <dr_willis_> dvd used the opensourced drivers. newer releases will use newer versions of them and may work better
[07:44] <dr_willis_> id try 13.10 as a test
[07:48] <JeffATL> dr_willis_: trying that now
[07:48] <GoldenVirginia> When I symlink a directory A to another directory B, where will my file gets stored ?
[07:49] <JeffATL> GoldenVirginia: non sequitur; where will you store the file?
[07:49] <JeffATL> first, "symlink a directory A" makes no sense
[07:50] <dr_willis_> in the final directory.. thats the only real place.
[07:50] <dr_willis_> a to b to c to d .....
[07:50] <GoldenVirginia> JeffATL: I don't know how to mention it in words , as you noticed im very new to the subject.
[07:50] <dr_willis_>  now a hardlink...
[07:51] <map> hey folks
[07:51] <JeffATL> otoh, if you mean "i create a symlink A to directory B; where will the file go if i copy it to A", the answer is "in B"
[07:51] <map> could someone lend me a hand - got a linux machine and wiureless is working (wlan0)  and iwlist scan shows the network -- how do i make it connect to my network from commandline?
[07:51] <GoldenVirginia> dr_willis_: You understand symlinks a lot ?
[07:51] <map> this machine has no GUI so i'd like to connect it to my network from cmd line
[07:51] <xmetal> wow
[07:52] <dr_willis_> GoldenVirginia:  not a lot to understand.  ;-)
[07:52] <xmetal> i dont pay attention to this channel for 2 minutes and the kids come out to play
[07:52] <xmetal> lol
[07:52] <GoldenVirginia> dr_willis_: Please may I PM ?
[07:52] <map> hm
[07:52] <dr_willis_> symlinks should be documented all over the internetz.
[07:53] <GoldenVirginia> It is, I read , I did, its not working.
[07:53] <GoldenVirginia> JeffATL: and yes thats what i meant to ask
[07:53] <mikubuntu> don't know what to do with this laptop -- it won't boot -- only goes to this screen msg, can anybody make any sense of it? sorry the image is not very clear :: http://imagebin.org/269196
[07:53] <dr_willis_> give the channel details and examples
[07:53] <map> i did
[07:54] <pradeep> how to install netbeans-7.3.1-linux-sh?
[07:54] <histo> mikubuntu: did you just install?
[07:54] <GoldenVirginia> dr_willis_: alright, i have /home/xyz . That is on SSD. I have /media/sdb which is on HDD. I want that anything that is added to /home/xyz gets stored in /media/sdb.
[07:55] <dr_willis_> map theres cli network commands.  nit used them in ages. theres a netwirk-manager cli tool also
[07:55] <map> thanks;)
[07:55] <GoldenVirginia> dr_willis_: so I did cd/home/ , then ln -s /media/sdb/ xyz
[07:55] <histo> GoldenVirginia: then mount /dev/sdb to /home/xyz    after you copy the current files
[07:55] <ObrienDave> Mikubuntu: did you mess with fstab?
[07:55] <histo> GoldenVirginia: sorry /media/sdb or symlink
[07:55] <xmetal> i still laugh at the thought of the floodbots banning each other for spamming
[07:56] <xmetal> i am sure there is something programmed in them to avoid that
[07:56] <GoldenVirginia> histo:  Can you please explain more ?
[07:56] <dr_willis_> use full paths for links also. ;-)
[07:56] <mikubuntu> histo: no i can't get it to install -- i was able to get into the bios to set the cd as boot, and insert a disk -- but when i power up it goes right to this msg. this box previously had (maybe still has) an ubuntu installed -- but i don't know what version or details it belongs to my friends son
[07:56] <impradeepy> how to install netbeans??
[07:56] <dr_willis_> !netbeans
[07:56] <dr_willis_> no beany factoid.
[07:56] <impradeepy> yea 7.3.1-linux-sh
[07:56] <mikubuntu> ObrienDave: no, din't mess with anything except the bios really
[07:57] <GoldenVirginia> but /media/sdb is the full path, no ?
[07:57] <hongker> impradeepy: "sudo apt-get install netbeans"
[07:57] <dr_willis_> perhaps askubyntu.com has a guide
[07:57] <mikubuntu> ObrienDave: (i don't know what fstab is) :P
[07:57] <dr_willis_> !info netbeans
[07:57] <impradeepy> will it install the latest version?
[07:57] <mikubuntu> ObrienDave: but i don't know what my friends son may have done
[07:57] <ObrienDave> Mikubuntu: that's a good thing.  Lol
[07:58] <dr_willis_> !latest
[07:58] <mikubuntu> ObrienDave: lol
[07:58] <impradeepy> ok thanku m trying
[07:58] <GoldenVirginia> Also, /media/sdb has only 1 partition.  should I mount it anywhere?
[07:59] <dr_willis_> GoldenVirginia:  its /dev/sdb1 yiu mean? you can use any mountpoint you want
[07:59] <mikubuntu> ObrienDave: does the image not tell us anything usefull? http://imagebin.org/269196
[07:59] <dr_willis_> !mount
[08:00] <GoldenVirginia> dr_willis_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267869 <--- i followed this.
[08:01] <GoldenVirginia> except I replaced sda1 with sdb
[08:01] <GoldenVirginia> everywhere.
[08:01] <dr_willis_> you can mount a hard drive's filesystems to a directory in the useres home. or make a link to the mountpoint.
[08:02] <ObrienDave> Mikubuntu: I'm on android phone right now. Can't be much help. Sorry
[08:02] <dr_willis_> sdb is NOT normally a filesystem  its a drive
[08:02] <dr_willis_> sdb1 and sdb are very different things
[08:02] <mikubuntu> ObrienDave: ok, thx dave
[08:03] <GoldenVirginia> dr_willis_: So while making filesystems I should have done sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 ?
[08:03] <GoldenVirginia> and not sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb
[08:03] <impradeepy> how can i install android sdk on ubuntu??
[08:03] <dr_willis_> yes.. you format partitions. not the drive
[08:04] <GoldenVirginia> I see, how will the system know Im talking abt sdb drive ?
[08:04] <dr_willis_> except in some soecial cases
[08:04] <GoldenVirginia> because of sdb1?
[08:04] <dr_willis_> id repartion and reformat the dusk
[08:04] <JeffATL> ubuntu 13.04 liveDVD came up with a scrambled screen
[08:04] <impradeepy> m not talking about the hard drives
[08:04] <impradeepy> sdk not sdb,sda etc
[08:04] <GoldenVirginia> dr_willis_: Ill format the everything again
[08:05] <dr_willis_> im not talking to you impradeepy  ;)
[08:05] <JeffATL> actually, the initial stuff (like "try ubuntu" vs "install ubuntu") looked fine but when i clicked on try, it wound up with a total screen mess
[08:05] <impradeepy> ok
[08:05] <GoldenVirginia> dr_willis_: However what did you mean by mounting  to users /home?
[08:05] <GoldenVirginia> what will that fetch me ?
[08:05] <impradeepy> can u tell me how to install .tar.gz??
[08:05] <dr_willis_> JeffATL: try a lubuntu live cd? it dosent use 3d/unity
[08:05] <racho> JeffATL, anything special about your video card?
[08:06] <dr_willis_> GoldenVirginia: you mount whever you want.
[08:06] <GoldenVirginia> but not storing on my SSD but my HDD can only be done via symlinks?
[08:06] <dr_willis_>   /home/bubba/pics   could be  /dev/sdb1
[08:07] <impradeepy> exit ty
[08:07] <dr_willis_> lunks can work to redirect also
[08:07] <dr_willis_> lunks
[08:07] <dr_willis_> links
[08:07] <JeffATL> racho: i've been fighting this for a few hours.  it's an ati radeon that takes teh catalyst driver
[08:07] <GoldenVirginia> dr_willis_: You tell me if I have /home/xyz and mount /dev/sdb1 on /home/xyz then anything ill store in /home/xyz will be stored in sdb HDD ?
[08:08] <dr_willis_> you MOUNT sdb1 to a folder.. that folder is the contents of sdb1.. uts not complicated
[08:09] <racho> JeffATL, wait you don't usually get proprietary drivers while in a live cd session. unless your radeon is super new or super old the free one should work quite well
[08:10] <MooreJohn90> Hi Guys, I want to make a phone call from my CDMA modem. Is it possible? If it is, what kind of software should I use?
[08:10] <racho> JeffATL, what do you mean 'takes the catalyst driver'
[08:10] <GoldenVirginia> ah got it.
[08:10] <dr_willis_> a soft link would jyst redirect you to the avtual mountpoint transpently
[08:10] <dr_willis_> see the huge amounts of guides on mounting
[08:11] <dr_willis_> ! mount
[08:11] <JeffATL> racho: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx/286775#286775
[08:12] <GoldenVirginia> dr_willis_: thanks I will  when doing a sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 , it said , could not stat /dev/sdb1 - no such file or directory , the device apparently doesnt exist :(
[08:12] <racho> JeffATL, ok but that is installing the ati fglrx? you say you have a problem while running a live session right?
[08:13] <JeffATL> racho: installing fglrx and fglrx-legacy failed...
[08:13] <racho> JeffATL, ubuntu version?
[08:13] <racho> JeffATL, also you try to install them while running a live cd?
[08:13] <JeffATL> log file cited by the error message says "kernel includes at /lib/modules/3.8.0-29-generic/build/include not found or incomplete"
[08:13] <JeffATL> racho: ^
[08:13] <MooreJohn90> Hi, Can I possible to make a phone call via EVDO USB modem?
[08:14] <racho> so while running a live cd?
[08:14] <dr_willis_> GoldenVirginia:  if you formated sdb  you need to delete and repartion it
[08:14] <dr_willis_> GoldenVirginia:  you may want to use gparted
[08:15] <GoldenVirginia> gparted on a server ?
[08:16] <JeffATL> racho: 12.04 is installed;
[08:17] <JeffATL> i'm having trouble getting a grub screen when i boot the CD - am i doing something wrong?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> JeffATL: check the ISO with md5sum.  check the CD with "check disk integrity"
[08:18] <cfhowlett> JeffATL: wait, scratch that.
[08:19] <JeffATL> cfhowlett: no, no - it'll boot; i just need to tell it nomodeset
[08:19] <cfhowlett> JeffATL: booting the cd bypasses grub so ... no grub!
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset
[08:19] <JeffATL> oh, ok
[08:22] <dr_willis_> the live cds have a way to do nomodeset.
[08:23] <JeffATL> dr_willis_: above link had it described - it's trying to boot now
[08:24] <dr_willis_> i used to need nomodeset. but not any more since 11.± release
[08:24] <dr_willis_> bbl
[08:25] <sepero> JeffATL: Hey, help vote this up http://meta.unix.stackexchange.com/a/1378/23373
[08:26] <JeffATL> sepero: wtf?
[08:26] <racho> god i hate apt...
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> JeffATL, please don't use that acronym here
[08:27] <JeffATL> wilee-nilee: my bad; sorry
[08:29] <racho> JeffATL, so did it boot with nomodeset?
[08:29] <JeffATL> racho: yes, but with bad resolution
[08:29] <racho> that's not the live cd right?
[08:29] <racho> you're booting your installation
[08:30] <JeffATL> racho: right now with the 13.04 livecd; 12.04 is on the disk and i've got nomodeset persistently there
[08:31] <bariho> is there a photo viewer available in the repositories, that is able to do a full screen slide show of a folder of photos in a random order?
[08:33] <JeffATL> racho - per http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx/286775#286775 , this is one of the cards that can no longer use the AMD catalyst drivers and has to use open source drivers
[08:34] <JeffATL> but really, i need to give up and go to bed; this has become a nightmare
[08:34] <racho> JeffATL, 13.04 does not support the default fglrx that come from the repos. there is the xorg-edgers ppa for this thing but i really advise not to go down this road
[08:34] <JeffATL> racho: ok
[08:34] <racho> the best course is to the use the open source one
[08:35] <JeffATL> racho: but that sends me into either scrambled-screen land or, with nomodeset 1024x768 only
[08:35] <racho> performance is a little lower than catalyst (and power management is terrible at least in 3.8) but it will work and be stable
[08:36] <racho> JeffATL, you're trying to upgrade to 13.04 or just checking out?
[08:36] <JeffATL> racho: i'm jsut trying to get this laptop functional enough to do a libreoffice impress presentation
[08:37] <racho> JeffATL, well if you have 12.04 installed do the presentation in a 13.04 live cd session?
[08:37] <racho> why?
[08:37] <MordFustang> can someone tell me how to run python script forever?
[08:37] <JeffATL> racho: i need two screens working, in correct resolutions
[08:38] <ikonia> MordFustang: what do you mean "forever"
[08:38] <racho> JeffATL, alright but still why boot the 13.04 live cd when you have 12.04? at least in 12.04 the catalyst from the official repos work
[08:39] <JeffATL> racho: no, it didn't work
[08:39] <MordFustang> ikonia if I run python script by hand python script.py it runs forever, but if I create bash script, it ends in 1 min i guess
[08:39] <kalle_> I have a problem with the package "ftp-proxy". I have set up a reverse proxy for my FTP on a firewall/NAT machine, but I get random "Connection reset by peer" when doing file listings in empty directories...
[08:39] <ikonia> MordFustang: that makes just no sense, they are two different things doing two different tasks, they will end when the task completes
[08:40] <ikonia> MordFustang: could you provide some context incase I am missing something
[08:40] <racho> JeffATL, then boot the 12.04..go to another console (Ctral+Alt+F1-7) and remove the fgrlx packages
[08:40] <racho> JeffATL, reboot.. make sure you get your native resolution
[08:40] <MordFustang> ikonia i'm using dropbox downloader in python
[08:41] <ikonia> MordFustang: go on.....
[08:41] <JeffATL> racho: neither fgrlx or fglrx-legacy would install - error about includes
[08:41] <MordFustang> ikonia there is a script watching.py which is scanning all the time so it never ends
[08:42] <ikonia> MordFustang: ok,
[08:42] <ikonia> MordFustang: keep going.....
[08:42] <racho> JeffATL, do you have linux-headers installed?
[08:43] <JeffATL> racho: at the moment, i don't know
[08:43] <MordFustang> ikonia now I create bash script to run this in crontab but its not running all the time
[08:44] <JeffATL> racho: ok, fglrx removed
[08:46] <JeffATL> racho: linux-headers for this version is alrady installed
[08:46] <ikonia> MordFustang: it doesn't quite work like that, crontab has no shell enviornment by default, you have to set one up in the script
[08:46] <ikonia> MordFustang: I suspect it's execting because it's running - failing, exiting,
[08:46] <racho> JeffATL, i can even suggest apt-get purge fglrx. reboot and let us see if you get your default screen res
[08:46] <ikonia> MordFustang: so it appears to run for a minute then end
[08:47] <JeffATL> racho: did that purche; rebooting
[08:48] <holden87> Hi guys, i have one question. I've been checking out the Moka icons that were published on omgubuntu, and i switched to them in myunity. Now i have a question, how can i switch back to default. Could anyone of you please check in myunity which is your default icon set, just so i don't mistake it. Thanks
[08:49] <racho> holden87, i think ubuntu-mono-dark
[08:49] <JeffATL> racho: rebooted to 1024x768 and that's the only one i can select
[08:50] <MordFustang> ikonia: any alternative to run this script on boot without crontab?
[08:50] <racho> JeffATL, lspci | grep VGA
[08:50] <subu> hi
[08:50] <Monday> what do i type to try out the xfce desktop thanks
[08:50] <ikonia> MordFustang: the obvious options would be 1.) script it properly so it can be executed from cron 2.) run it as a daemon in a startup script
[08:51] <JeffATL> racho: up-arrowing
[08:51] <holden87> racho, thank you!
[08:51] <JeffATL> lspci says amd/ati RS690M [radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]
[08:51] <subu> I am trying to install ubuntu from usb . I am getting stuck at Net:Registered protocol family 1
[08:51] <JeffATL> racho: ^
[08:52] <racho> JeffATL, oh god. X1200...
[08:52] <JeffATL> racho: exxactly.
[08:52] <subu> can anyone help me
[08:53] <Monday> subu if you are having problems with the ubuntu installer, you can probably try Linux Mint
[08:53] <ikonia> Monday: why ???
[08:53] <JeffATL> racho: it seems like a problem that may be common to any distro, evne gentoo
[08:53] <ikonia> Monday: why would an install problem dictate "try mint"
[08:53] <MordFustang> ikonia; https://wiki.umms.med.umich.edu/display/ET/9.+providing+RPi+sync+with+Dropbox+Server can you check crontab part
[08:53] <backwards> hi
[08:54] <ikonia> the plan is to understand the problem and help the user, not point them at a random distribution
[08:54] <backwards> hi
[08:54] <JeffATL> ikonia: <raises hand>
[08:54] <subu> Will linux mint load ubuntu?
[08:54] <ikonia> subu: no, it's a totally different linux distribution
[08:54] <backwards> hah that confused me
[08:54] <ikonia> subu: hence why Monday's advice makes no sense
[08:54] <subu> but i want ubuntu
[08:54] <backwards> ok then install ubuntu
[08:54] <ikonia> subu: great, so state the problem, and work with people in the channel to see if they can help resolve your issues
[08:54] <Monday> subu, Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu with a Windows-like desktop
[08:55] <ikonia> Monday: no it's nothing like windows
[08:55] <subu> I am trying to install ubuntu from usb . I am getting stuck at Net:Registered protocol family 1
[08:55] <ikonia> Monday: and it's moving away from ubuntu - the desktop is a totally different experience
[08:55] <JeffATL> ok, gotta sleep
[08:55] <ikonia> Monday: if you a.) don't really know what you are suggesting b.) can't help fix the problem the user has, please don't offer random stuff
[08:55] <backwards> actually i too had trouble installing mint on one of my PC's using a cd
[08:55] <backwards> never got it to work
[08:55] <subu> I tried with 12.04 and then with 13
[08:55] <racho> JeffATL, problem is X1200 is bascially dead...
[08:55] <ikonia> subu: just state the problem, and people will try to help if they can
[08:55] <racho> fglrx does not support it
[08:56] <subu> I am trying to install ubuntu from usb . I am getting stuck at Net:Registered protocol family 1 - this is the problem
[08:56] <racho> open radeon does but not fully i guess saying you can get only 1024x768
[08:56] <ikonia> MordFustang: what am I looking at here ?
[08:56] <Monday> ikonia, no one was helping on here for over 10 minutes of asking so i'm trying to help him because i know that the Linux Mint installer worked fine
[08:56] <JeffATL> racho: it's like it's either windows or nothing for this thing
[08:57] <subu> monday: sorry i can't use mint
[08:57] <MordFustang> ikonia: crontab part, you can see how script is made
[08:57] <ikonia> Monday: it installs mint though, and you don't know the linux minst installer works for him
 : any suggestion?
[08:57] <ikonia> MordFustang: that guide is for raspbian ?
[08:57] <ikonia> subu: I've not been following your problem, sorry
[08:57] <MordFustang> ikonia: yes
[08:57] <subu> I am trying to install ubuntu from usb . I am getting stuck at Net:Registered protocol family 1
[08:57] <ikonia> MordFustang: are you using raspbien ?
[08:57] <MordFustang> ikonia: yes
 : I am trying to install ubuntu from usb . I am getting stuck at Net:Registered protocol family 1
[08:58] <ikonia> MordFustang: then why are you asking in #ubuntu
[08:58] <MordFustang> ikonia: this should also work in ubuntu :D
[08:58] <ikonia> MordFustang: no it shouldn't as it uses a different cron setup
[08:59] <subu> Can anyone help please
[08:59] <ikonia> MordFustang: this channel is for ubuntu support only, you've not even asked in #raspberrypi - so I suggest taking it to the correct channel please, and please don't use this channel for raspberry suppport
[08:59] <ikonia> subu: one moment
[08:59] <MordFustang> ikonia: ok
[08:59] <ikonia> MordFustang: thanks
[09:00] <ikonia> subu: is this a standard home PC ?
[09:00] <subu> yes
[09:00] <Monday> aren't there any Ubuntu support ops on here?
[09:00] <ksinkar> Ben66: I used xev, and it seems that Alt_L and Alt_R are being recognized correctly
[09:00] <ikonia> subu: are you using a usb hub, or a usb device (such as a keyboard) with a usb hub in ?
[09:00] <ikonia> Monday: yes, they are in #ubuntu-ops
[09:01] <subu> i am using my usb pen drive
[09:01] <histo> Monday: why?
[09:01] <ksinkar> Ben66: but the problem is that I cannot use Alt R as Alt Gr as described on the internet. I am not able to do AltGr + 5 and get a Euro sign on my editor
[09:01] <ikonia> Monday: if you need someone you can join that channel and ask for some help
[09:01] <ikonia> subu: apart from the pen drive,
[09:01] <Monday> histo, if there are so many ops why isn't anyone else people
[09:01] <ikonia> Monday: there are 1600 people in this channel
[09:01] <ikonia> Monday: very few are ops
[09:01] <ikonia> Monday: if you need help from the operators join #ubuntu-ops and ask
[09:02] <Monday> but only a couple of people are asking for help and no one is helping
[09:02] <subu> Apart from then pen drive i have a PATA hard disk , normal keyboard and USB mouse
[09:02] <ikonia> Monday: ops are not "super helpers"
[09:02] <ikonia> Monday: the channel relies on anyone helping
[09:02] <histo> !volunteers | Monday
[09:02] <neta> i have a problem with installing ubuntu- i have windows 7 and i'm trying to unstall ubuntu 12.04 in dual boot. i made a dok (don't have a cd rom). when i restart the computer i can enter the setup of the bios. when i enable UEFI Boot Support and then restart the computer see the usb and give me the screen where i can choose to install ubuntu (or run it without installing). so far so good- then when i choose to install i get a black screen, and
[09:02] <ikonia> subu: so you have no usb hubs on your machine
[09:02] <subu> no
[09:02] <Monday> isn't there a schedule for ops to ensure that at least 3 ops are supporting the channel at any given time
[09:02] <ikonia> subu: do you have a DVD drive ?
[09:03] <subu> I have 4 USB ports on my machine
[09:03] <ikonia> Monday: ops are not support experts,
[09:03] <subu> No
[09:03] <histo> !nomodeset | neta
[09:03] <ikonia> Monday: ops are there to help the channel run smoothly
[09:03] <ikonia> subu: that is frustrating as it looks like the common cause of your problem is down to the usb device
[09:03] <ikonia> subu: I'm just doing a little more research
[09:03] <Monday> well only ubuntu support experts should be ops
[09:03] <ikonia> Monday: that's not how it works,
[09:04] <ikonia> Monday: you're welcome to join #ubuntu-ops and this can be explained to you
[09:04] <histo> Monday: or you're welcome to hang out and help others.
[09:04] <subu> ikonia: Will booting from DVD solve the issue?
[09:04] <ikonia> subu: I was interested if it did as a test, due to the common issue on your problem being a usb device
[09:05] <subu> Then I have to hijack a dvd drive from my office today
[09:05] <ikonia> subu: so what is plugged into your usb ports ?
[09:05] <histo> subu: what make and model machine are you trying to install on?
[09:05] <neta> ubottu, histo: tnx! i'll try this :)
[09:05] <subu> My pen drive and my mose is plugged in USB port
[09:06] <ikonia> subu: just for interest, unplug the mouse, see what it does
[09:06] <ikonia> subu: is your keyboard PS2 ?
[09:06] <subu> I had unplugged and tried, same issue
[09:07] <subu> my keyboard is ps2
[09:07] <ikonia> that was a bit of a long shot to be honest
[09:07] <ikonia> if possible unplug all USB devices, and try to boot from DVD, I know it's a bit of effort though
[09:08] <subu> then hijacking a USB drive is the only option left
[09:08] <racho> subu, reboot into BIOS and check disable "Legacy USB Support" if you have it there
[09:08] <zangaroo> does canonical have an irc server ?
[09:08] <subu> Ok racho
[09:09] <subu> I will try this and come back now
[09:12] <subu> racho: the same problem remains
[09:13] <subu> ikonia: is there any more suggestion from your side
[09:16] <subu> I am trying to install ubuntu from usb . I am getting stuck at Net:Registered protocol family 1 - help required
[09:17] <ikonia> subu: there is a suggestion that on some older PC's (Asus mostly) that apci is the issue, however I don't think this will be your issue
[09:17] <racho> subu, what version of ubuntu are you installing?
[09:17] <subu> 13
[09:17] <subu> yea ikonia , my is an old pc
[09:17] <subu> how to go past the acpi problem?
[09:18] <Vyrlokar> Hello everybody. I'm trying to setup a Vostro 3750 laptop that runs an Intel/nVidia Optimus setup under Xubuntu. If I add nomodeset to the kernel boot parameters, the system boots, but I'm restricted to 1024x768 resolution (actual screen resolution is 1600x900) and external monitors are disabled. If I remove it, I get initial output on both the build in and the external monitor, but it freezes during boot. I've tried using drm_kms_
[09:18] <Vyrlokar> By the way, if booting into nomodeset, I can optirun glxspheres and get 5x the FPS compared to normal glxspheres, and the nVidia driver (-304) loads correctly (I do lsmod on a second terminal console to check it)
[09:18] <racho> subu, one shot is to try and update your BIOS firmware if your BIOS manufacturer even has some updates...
[09:18] <subu> ikonia: How to get past the APCI problem?
[09:18] <ikonia> subu: I don't think it is an apci problem for you
[09:18] <Vyrlokar> Any hints on how to get this to work? I've been hammering at it for 2 days, and I'm at my wit's end
[09:19] <subu> racho , this PC is a old desktop -  Celeron 2.4 GHZ with DDR1 RAM
[09:20] <racho> subu, is the mainboard Intel DG45ID
[09:21] <subu> no the main board is ASROCK 4i45GV
[09:22] <subu> racho : I am trying to use this old M/B + Processor + Arduino to do a robot
[09:23] <racho> subu, can't you install from cd
[09:24] <subu> racho , thai is the last option , and then I have to hijack the CD driver from my office
[09:24] <racho> i mean the hardware does not follow the usb standard specs so there is nothing the software(kernel) can do about this
[09:24] <subu> thanks racho
[09:24] <racho> subu, also usually old hardware was not very linux friendly
[09:24] <subu> thanks ikonia
[09:25] <kilo_byte> hello.. I have got multiple Desktop ernvironments in my pc.. and its pretty much pulling down my performance..
[09:25] <racho> in the old days you would tinker with your systems for days to make it work as intended
[09:25] <kilo_byte> how can I uninstall the others i dont want
[09:25] <subu> racho : i will have to steal a CD crive today
[09:25] <subu> + burn a dvd
[09:26] <racho> subu, i think that would be the best option
[09:26] <subu> ok
[09:28] <Gracen> Всем
[09:28] <anonee> hello ubuntuers! I got a process with an unknown pid it says "?" running under root, program name is unknown, and it got a TCP port open, how on earth can I fix that?
[09:28] <Gracen> hello
[09:28] <ikonia> anonee: which tcp port does it have open, what program is it?
[09:28] <racho> Vyrlokar, wasn't there a bumblebee ppa for this kind of stuff? (i'm sorry ati user here)
[09:29] <Gracen> hello ya not anglish, ya russian
[09:29] <Gracen> Russian
[09:29] <ezra-s> anonee, what's the name of the process?
[09:30] <Gracen> просто посижу тут у вас за компанию))
[09:31] <ezra-s> !russian
[09:31] <anonee> ikonia, ezra-s: nethogs says: program: unknown, user: root, pid:? !! is there a way to know anything? like the port number or anything?
[09:31] <ikonia> anonee: kill it
[09:31] <ezra-s> anonee, paste it all in a pastebin
[09:31] <Vyrlokar> racho: I'm using Bumblebee (that's where I get Optirun). However, it doesn't help here.
[09:32] <ezra-s> ps auxwww outout and top output if you can
[09:32] <anonee> ikonia what am I gonna kill that's the problem :(
[09:33] <anonee> ezra-s what am I gonna post? I already said all the info I have...
[09:34] <ezra-s> anonee, you got the info from somewhere, paste it so we can see it with our own eyes to judge
[09:34] <ezra-s> anonee, ps auxwwww  and top out please
[09:34] <ezra-s> output
[09:35] <ezra-s> I am not going to tell you what you may do if I can't see precisely what is hapenning to you
[09:35] <ezra-s> it may be a kernel process or similar
[09:35] <racho> Vyrlokar, can you disable your integrated vga from your BIOS
[09:35] <Vyrlokar> Anyway, I believe that the issue is related to the intel card, because I'm not loading the nVidia card
[09:35] <Vyrlokar> or should not be loading it anyway
[09:37] <racho> Vyrlokar, exactly. some BIOSes support disabling one of the cards and forcing only one of them to be used
[09:37] <neta> problem with installing ubuntu with windows 7- sorry, i don't understand how to make this NOMODESET work. when i restart with dok i don't have this purple screen where i can change the code.. i just have a black screen with text that askes if i what to install ubuntu or try witput installing, and no matter what i choose i get a black screen...
[09:37] <histo> neta: press the shift key just after you bios posts to get to the grub screen
[09:38] <histo> neta: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install btw?
[09:38] <neta> histo: 12.04
[09:38] <histo> kilo_byte: multiple DEs will nto hamper performance
[09:38] <histo> neta: 64bit?
[09:38] <kilo_byte> !reboot
[09:39] <backwards> why is this record so hard to get. damnit
[09:39] <neta> histo: 64, yes
[09:39] <kilo_byte> histo, but my os has gone pretty slow these days
[09:39] <Vyrlokar> racho: unfortunately, I can't do that
[09:39] <histo> neta: odd, anyhoot repeatedly pressing the shift key will get you to the grub menu. Then you can follow the directions
[09:39] <dr_willis> neta:  the cd boot stuff has an option menu befor you get to the  try/install screen
[09:40] <histo> kilo_byte: well take a look at your processes and see what is hogging.
[09:40] <racho> Vyrlokar, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:40] <Pricey> kilo_byte: Global warming has increased as the number of pirates has decreased.
[09:40] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[09:40] <kilo_byte> histo, how to?
[09:40] <histo> neta: are you not even seeing the first screen that says "try ubuntu" "install" etc...?
[09:40] <Pricey> oh, increased
[09:41] <histo> kilo_byte: top in a terminal or bring up the system monitor in the GUI
[09:42] <neta> dr_willis, histo: i don't have options before i get the screen that askes me if i want to install or try without. but i can press F2 foor boot options
[09:43] <histo> neta: then you can set nomodeset there
[09:43] <dr_willis> theres a man=keybord  icon you see real fast. you hit space when you see that.
[09:43] <histo> neta: did you not look at the link?
[09:43] <dr_willis> then you use f5 or f6
[09:43] <dr_willis> i recall the url has screenshots
[09:44] <histo> neta: I believe F6 on the try ubuntu screen is for boot options
[09:44] <histo> dr_willis: it does
[09:45] <Web-aptosid415> synaptic
[09:46] <dr_willis> in the past ive edited the boot file menus on the live usb to make nomodeset the default.
[09:46] <neta> histo, dr_willis: i read the link but didn't understand much... i'll try to restart my computer now and get to boot options from the ubuntu install screen.. so far i tried only from the bios before
[09:46] <histo> neta: look at the pictures on the link
[09:47] <histo> ffs
[09:48] <anonee> exit
[09:48] <Web-aptosid415> gdebi
[09:48] <histo> vim
[09:48] <neta> histo: i didn't get those screens when i tried, but i'l try pressing all the F's and shift :)
[09:49] <Web-aptosid415> apt-get install gdebi
[09:49] <histo> neta: That screen is the "Try Ubuntu" screen you mentioned earlier no?
[09:49] <neta> histo: yes
[09:49] <histo> neta: Then what do you mean you don't get those screens?
[09:50] <Web-aptosid415> apt-get install synaptic
[09:50] <histo> neta: on the "Try Ubuntu" screen look at the bottom there are F keys listed for additional options
[09:50] <histo> Web-aptosid415: you can't install software in an irc channel
[09:50] <havires> hi im having an issue installing 12.10 with the efi fix on my hp pav g7
[09:50] <histo> havires: efi fix?
[09:51] <havires> yeah
[09:51] <neta> histo: my screen is black and not purple, and it didn't mantioned those other options
[09:51] <barthoda> Hi all, where can I get help making a package for a shared library?
[09:51] <histo> neta: is this the installation dvd you are booting?
[09:51] <havires> it goes the to the ubuntu loading screen and freezes
[09:52] <histo> havires: What efi fix are you speaking of?
[09:52] <neta> histo: dok, not cd (my laptop is too small for a cd rom)
[09:52] <histo> neta: what is dok?
[09:52] <neta> histo: disk on key
[09:53] <havires> the one included with the iso, im on my phone atm so its kind of hard to type  histo
[09:53] <havires> im trying to do a dual boot
[09:53] <histo> neta: how did you create it?
[09:54] <histo> havires: There is no efi fix included with the iso so I have no idea what the hell youa re talking about. If you are trying to install on a UEFI system you need to be using 64bit
[09:54] <neta> histo: i downloaded the iso and then used universal-usb-installer
[09:55] <histo> neta: check the md5sum of your iso
[09:55] <histo> !md5sum | neta
[09:57] <alexa> I'm having trouble with sound volume. It used to work while ago. Then I switched to HDMI - it worked too. Now I'm back on VGA (for visual) and to "normal" sound output (not over HDMI anymore). The problem is, my sound is too low. I checked settings, it's not mutted. When I put headphones on, I hear very low music. Tried with different headphones too.  What shall I do?
[09:57] <neta> histo: can you write it again, i accidently refreshed the tab :P
[09:57] <histo> alexa: check which device is set for output in sound preferences
[09:57] <histo> !md5sum > neta
[09:58] <burg> hello. i am trying to do sudo setfacl -R -m u:ultra:rwx /projects , but i get: setfacl: /projects/clients/client0/web1: Operation not permitted
[09:58] <alexa> histo, I switched to Built-in audio (it used to be HDMI before).
[09:59] <jrib> burg: what's the output of « mount ?
[10:00] <dr_willis> burg what filesystem is the drive using?
[10:00] <histo> alexa: loose speaker connection?
[10:00] <Vyrlokar> racho: I'm using Xubuntu 13.04 (tried at default, with x-edgers and with x-updates). Still, progress! I get everything working until I get to the login screen for XCFE. On login, it seems that the xserver crashes/can't set graphic mode because I get corrupted graphics and then back to the login screen
[10:00] <sepero> alexa: I've had low volume before from changing Built-In Audio Profile from analog to digital
[10:00] <histo> Vyrlokar: what video chipset?
[10:02] <alexa> sepero, histo , how do I reset audio configuration, as it used to be once I installed OS?
[10:02] <sepero> idk
[10:02] <dr_willis> hmm. the  graphical login screen is using x also. so it could be a weird xfce byg
[10:02] <histo> alexa: have you checked alsamixer?
[10:02] <dr_willis> !sound
[10:03] <alexa> histo, I did, all seems to be normal
[10:04] <histo> alexa: I would check the troubleshooting guide there
[10:04] <alexa> I will
[10:07] <wolff> elo guyes... I have setup postfix as a smart host relay to send mail using gmail. It worked fine , then  reconfigured postfix in order to send mail from another address of mine, it just wont work ????
[10:07] <ezra-s> wolff, #postfix
[10:08] <wolff> thanks ezra-s
[10:08] <histo> wolff: also you may want to tell #postfix what "reconfigured" means to you.
[10:08] <ezra-s> and good luck, if someone named lunaphyte answers you just ignore him
[10:08] <ezra-s> ;)
[10:08] <neta> histo: i used md5sum and compared and it was the same
[10:09] <histo> neta: are you selecting to boot to the usb device in your boot menu?
[10:11] <histo> neta: try booting and just after the bios posts or you select boot to USB mash the escape key repeatidly
[10:12] <neta> histo: with a long esc i enter the options menu
[10:12] <histo> neta: Which options menu?
[10:13] <neta> histo: i pictured the menu i you want.. in the menu i change to enable uefi so i can boot from usb
[10:13] <histo> neta: that's not the menu I want. ughh.. Did you download a 64bit iso?
[10:14] <neta> histo: yes, 64 bit
[10:14] <histo> neta: disable secure boot?
[10:14] <neta> histo: i don't have this option in that menu
[10:15] <histo> neta: I have no idea what menu you are looking at. But in your BIOS/EFI you need to disable secure boot.
[10:16] <histo> !uefi | neta
[10:16] <manik_> Hey
[10:17] <Gracen> Hi again to you. Guys can any of you help to build a kernel for android OS? probyval collect yourself when you compile an error.
[10:18] <neta> histo: in the link u gave me, you see the pic under "Identifying if the computer boots the Ubuntu DVD in EFI mode", the black screen above the purple one- that is what i have when i try to install fron usb
[10:19] <arun> I installed ubuntu 13.04 server on my laptop. Now what package should I install to get my thinkpad keys and suspend to work ?
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> Gracen  better ask in #android or ##android
[10:20] <neta> histo: but this lead me to a black screen. if i want to enter the bios menu i need to do that before
[10:20] <histo> neta: at the bottom of that screen does what does it say?
[10:20] <eur33r> How do I DDoS from a VPS?
 thank you
[10:21] <histo> eur33r: not here
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> eur33r  wrong channel
[10:21] <eur33r> histo: where?
[10:21] <histo> neta: I believe you press 'e' to edit the currently selected line then you can append nomodeset to the end
[10:21] <histo> !topic > eur33r
[10:22] <neta> histo: i'll try this now
[10:22] <histo> neta: if it's not 'e' it says right at the bottom I believe
[10:22] <neta> histo: i'll restart the computer. tnx a lot for the patiance with me!!
[10:23] <histo> neta: np
[10:24] <histo> neta: I have to get some sleep, but basically on that black screen you can edit the currently selected line and append nomodeset
[10:24] <histo> neta: others should be able to help. Just make sure you explain it's a UEFI based install and the black screen vs. the purple one.
[10:25] <eur33r> How do I DDoS from a VPS?
[10:25] <jrib> eur33r: that's not on-topic here
[10:25] <histo> !topic | eur33r
[10:25] <burg> dr_willis, sorry for my delay. i am using ext4
[10:25] <eur33r>  Official Ubuntu Support Channel
[10:26] <eur33r> it is on topic
[10:26] <eur33r> it is relatedt o ubuntu
[10:26] <burg> jrib, http://codepad.org/Tnocm50e - this is the output of mount
[10:26] <jrib> eur33r: questionably legal activities are not on-topic.  Move on.
[10:26] <histo> eur33r: How is ddos'ng a VPS related to ubuntu support channel?
[10:26] <arun> I installed ubuntu 13.04 server on my laptop. Now what package(s) should I install to get my thinkpad keys and suspend to work ?
[10:26] <histo> eur33r: and what'd the VPS ever do to you.
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> eur33r  please don't spam the channel with nonsense
[10:26] <eur33r> histo: DDoSing from a Ubuntu server
[10:27] <histo> Oh man I was gong to http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+ddos
[10:27] <eur33r> I have
[10:27] <eur33r> but Google doesn't display anythign
[10:27] <jrib> eur33r: there's no discussion here.  DDoSing is not on-topic.  I'll have to ban you if you don't stop
[10:27] <eur33r> jrib: WELL that IS very WEIRD
[10:27]  * histo knows where this is heading
[10:28] <eur33r> good bye
[10:29] <jrib> burg: what kind of file is /projects/clients/client0/web1 ?
[10:29] <burg> jrib, is a directory actually
[10:30] <nathanbz> how do i make a folder in /var/run that doesn't get deleted on restart ?
[10:30] <jrib> burg: ls -ld /projects /projects/clients /projects/clients/client0 /projects/clients/client0/web1
[10:31] <burg> jrib, http://codepad.org/7zNe5BFr
[10:31] <histo> nathanbz: why?
[10:32] <burg> jrib, and ls -la /projects/clients/client0/web1 is http://codepad.org/em5LgBeg
[10:33] <nathanbz> i'm trying to put a pid file in there
[10:33] <nathanbz> ed2013-08-30 10:32:42 ERROR: pid 2738: could not open pid file as /var/run/pgpool.pid. reason: Permission denied
[10:33] <nathanbz> and that doesn't work
[10:34] <histo> nathanbz: why are you trying to put a pid file there?
[10:34] <jrib> burg: so does the ACL get set correctly on children of that directory?  How about parents?
[10:35] <nathanbz> where else do you put them ?
[10:36] <burg> jrib, i only get that error message. that is the location of a web server's projects managed by ispconfig, actually what i am trying to do is give full access to one user i will be using with samba
[10:36] <ItsMeLenny> what are other usb commands that can be run in terminal to get information on the device?
[10:36] <jrib> burg: if you drop the recursive flag and pass a child of that directory, does it work ok?  What about a parent?
[10:37] <burg> jrib, sudo setfacl -m u:ultra:rwx /projects works
[10:38] <burg> jrib, sudo setfacl -m u:ultra:rwx /projects/clients/client0/web1/web also works
[10:38] <burg> so the problems seems to be at /projects/clients/client0/web1
[10:39] <jrib> burg: are there siblings of web1?
[10:40] <nathanbz> it looks like i need a startup script to mkdir in /var/run
[10:40] <njuergens> burg, have you tried to check for the 'immutable' attribute via lsattr?
[10:40] <njuergens> ispconfig uses the flag in its default config
[10:40] <burg> jrib, only a symlink to web1
[10:41] <burg> njuergens, i haven't. how do i check it?
[10:41] <jrib> burg: lsattr /path/to/file
[10:42] <Yu-Yu> Hi, folks.
[10:44] <burg> njuergens, jrib, http://codepad.org/gPEjqXXW - doesn't seem to be immutable. but not sure
[10:44] <histo> burg: not it's not
[10:44] <jrib> burg: run it one directory up
[10:44] <jrib> burg: (or use -d)
[10:45] <burg> jrib, one up has i flag
[10:45] <jrib> burg: then that's the reason.  Good catch, njuergens.  Now you must figure out /why/
[10:46] <Yu-Yu> sepero: Hi again.
[10:46] <burg> jrib, i suppose i can remove the immutable flag, but the new projects will also have it, right?
[10:46] <njuergens> burg, that is something you can control via ispconfig settings
[10:47] <burg> njuergens, i am trying to find that setting, but with no success
[10:47] <njuergens> ok let me look, one sec :-)
[10:47] <mikubuntu> don't know what to do with this laptop -- it won't boot -- only goes to this screen msg, can anybody make any sense of it? sorry the image is not very clear :: http://imagebin.org/269196
[10:47] <sepero> Yu-Yu: hi
[10:47] <sepero>  :)
[10:48] <Yu-Yu> sepero: They changed the behaviour one switches layouts. And they didn't ask or take care. Could not catch that until booted GNOME shell.
[10:48] <No-one> mikubuntu: strange. Did it work before?
[10:49] <njuergens> burg, what language is your ispconfig admin menu?
[10:49] <burg> njuergens, english
[10:50] <mikubuntu> No-one: it worked until it didn't ... lol. i don't know, it belongs to my friends son. it supposedly had ubuntu on it and just stopped working (of course i don't know what he might have messed with). but now i can't get it to boot at all.
[10:51] <njuergens> burg, system->server config-><your server>->web->permissions
[10:51] <njuergens> there you find 'Make web folders immutable (extended attributes)'
[10:52] <burg> njuergens, thanks. let me check with a new website. until then, chattr -i /path/to/folder to remove the i flag?
[10:55] <burg> seems to be working. njuergens and jrib , thank you
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:   the filesystem, or disk has gotten currupted.. given the # of times you have posted the questiin. You could have just typed the errors into a pastebin. :) and more people may have looked at it. ;P
[10:55] <Dr_Willis>  / is not getting mounted. so the other stuff /dev/ /sys/ and /proc/ also fail to mount
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> id start with a live cd, and fsck the drives/filesystems. then try boot-repair to see if grub can get fixed.
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> its possible the UUID has just changed.
[11:00] <mikubuntu> Dr_Willis: but i can't use the livecd because i can't get it to boot -- is there some other way via term?
[11:03] <mikubuntu> gotta run the dog out ... arrrrrgh
[11:15] <aneesh_> Hi , I am getting some error when i tried to install eclipse. Just now I have installed tomcat 6 on my machine after that eclipse got closed and not opening
[11:15] <aneesh_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:17] <mikubuntu> Dr_Willis: do you think it might take a boot and nuke, and then maybe accept booting from livecd? just occured to me?
[11:17] <rfete> ciao
[11:17] <rfete> !list
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:  if the thing is not booting from cd. then i have to wonder if your cd/usb is correct. or the bios is booting the wrong device
[11:18] <aneesh_> Hi , I am getting some error when i tried to install eclipse. Just now I have installed tomcat 6 on my machine after that eclipse got closed and not opening http://paste.ubuntu.com/6043717/
[11:19] <mikubuntu> Dr_Willis: i definitely set the boot order to cd. that particular bios doesn't offer a way to completely disable the hdd, only move it down the list.
[11:19] <ikonia> mikubuntu: got a PPA enabled by anychance.....
[11:19] <ikonia> mikubuntu: looks like a package version conflict
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:  if you definatly have the cd first.. then that would suggest that the cd was burnt badly and being ignored.
[11:20] <ikonia> mikubuntu: sorry, that was meant for aneesh_
[11:20] <ikonia> not you
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  ;) i was wondering if i was confused ;P
[11:20] <ikonia> aneesh_: do you have any PPA's on your system, it certainly looks like something has created a conflict
[11:21] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: no, I was just wrong, read the wrong line for the wrong nick
[11:21] <aneesh_> yes
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> heh - i got weechat where it colorized the name/nicks and their text the same  now. :)
[11:21] <ikonia> aneesh_: ok, so that's a very very likely reason for the cause
[11:21] <mikubuntu> Dr_Willis: hmmmm ... so cfhowlett told me to do an md5sum the other day and it checked out -- but you're suggesting the actual burn might be bad?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:  its very possible the actual BURN to the CD is bad. yes.
[11:21] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: sadly I'm on a green console like the matrix due to lack of terminal emmulation on the machine I'm using ssh on
[11:22] <Monday> what do i type to install xfce so that i can test it out, then what do i type to remove it after without removing the xfce stuff for lubuntu
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> I tend to boot from USB mikubuntu  much easer
[11:22] <mikubuntu> Dr_Willis: i tried usb also, wouldn't boot from that either
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  :) I finally got rid of my old Serial-terminals ;)   Oh the good old days
[11:22] <aneesh_> but before installing apache tomcat6 my eclipse installtion is working  fine ikonia
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:  try a simple distro like tiny-core linux make a bootable usb of that. see if it boots on other machines then test on yours.. Its likely your machine is being a pain and not wnating to boot from anything else.
[11:23] <Yu-Yu> sepero: Hi again.
[11:23] <mikubuntu> Dr_Willis: ok, thx
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:  if you want to go hard core on it. :) remove the HD. plug it in a USB enclosuer and  try to fix it from a differnt pc. or boot that pc with a cd/usb and plug the enclosure in
[11:24] <sepero> Yu-Yu: hey  :)
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> $20 for a Universial HD -> usb adaptor - is Money that was well spent by me in the last year.
[11:24] <aneesh_> ikonia this is the list of ppa which i have in my machine http://paste.ubuntu.com/6043738/ please tell which one i have to remove
[11:24] <mikubuntu> Dr_Willis: ok, will try something :P
[11:24] <nathanbz> anyone know how to change permissions in an upstart script ?
[11:24] <Yu-Yu> sepero: They broke my awesome xsession that it didn't work until I found what's the problem. Also, they surprisingly changed layout switching to Super+Space. Why, ever?…
[11:25] <ikonia> aneesh_: I'd suggest using none unless you have confidence that the person who maintains it has a clue about what he's doing
[11:25] <Yu-Yu> sepero: And until I got in a full GNOME Shell, I couldn't ever get they did the change.
[11:26] <nathanbz>  exec /bin/chown pgpool:root /var/run/pgpool <- doesn't seem to work :(
[11:26] <Yu-Yu> sepero: Of course, you can say I still can use Windows 8 or Mac, yah.
[11:26] <sepero> Yu-Yu: Do you want to change the layout switching hotkey?
[11:26] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:26] <aneesh_> ok ikonia thanks for your suggestion . I will check it out.
[11:27] <Yu-Yu> sepero: I did want. And I told you.
[11:27] <sepero> Yu-Yu: Well, I think you did a good job then
[11:29] <Yu-Yu> sepero: I don't think someone should do this work after another update.
[11:29] <sepero> Yu-Yu: Me either. It's just not right
[11:31] <Yu-Yu> sepero: It's just why I prefer to test things before they get to regular users. And that's why I'm on 13.10. Now you see?
[11:32] <sepero> Yu-Yu: I see, but I say you will still like 12.04 better. In the end, you will want a system that just works easy
[11:33] <Monday> what do i type to install xfce so that i can test it out, then what do i type to remove it after without removing the xfce stuff for lubuntu
[11:33] <jrib> !xubuntu | Monday
[11:33] <sepero> Yu-Yu: That's why you will make the right choice and go with 12.04
[11:34] <sepero> Yu-Yu: You will be happy
[11:34] <Monday> jrib, how would i remove it
[11:35] <sepero> Monday: the package to install is xubuntu-desktop
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> its harder to remove then install. ;)
[11:35] <Yu-Yu> sepero: Why not everyone use 12.04 so, tell me?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> thats the curse of 'meta-packages'
[11:36] <jrib> Monday: apt-get remove the package
[11:36] <sepero> Yu-Yu: Because they are confused  ;)
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> removeing xubuntu-desktop wont automatically remove all teh stuff the meta package installed.. unless theres been some changes ive missed.
[11:36] <jrib> Monday: you can use autoremove afterwards to remove any packages you don't need
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Monday:  cleanest way to 'test' would be just to try xubuntu  live cd in virtualbox.
[11:37] <Monday> sudo  apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop ?
[11:37] <Yu-Yu> sepero: Are you using 12.04?
[11:37] <sepero> Yu-Yu: yes, I am
[11:37] <jrib> Monday: no.  apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop && apt-get autoremove
[11:38] <jrib> Monday: maybe apt-get remove --auto-remove xubuntu-desktop, but I've never used this form
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> err.. I just did a 'apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop' then 'apt-get autoremove' and it dident remove anything with autoremove
[11:39] <jrib> Dr_Willis: depends on how kubuntu-desktop was installed
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   as far as i rember. ;)
[11:40] <sepero> $ cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:40] <sepero> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[11:40] <sepero> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> wonder if the fact ive upgraded  this box a few rel4eases has got it confused.
[11:40] <FloodBot1> sepero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:40] <sepero> Yu-Yu: ^^
[11:41] <Yu-Yu> sepero: Just to keep warm and dry?
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> night all..
[11:42] <Yu-Yu> Mew, Dr_Willis.
[11:42] <sepero> Yu-Yu: Yeah  :(
[11:43] <sepero> Dr_Willis: night you
[11:43] <Yu-Yu> sepero: So be it.
[11:43] <sepero> jrib: you can see what packages you installed when in the dpkg log
[11:43] <Monday> jrib, how do i install the desktop without the suggested packages
[11:44] <eur33r> Monday: simple
[11:44] <sepero> jrib: /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:44] <eur33r> KiSM: hi
[11:44] <eur33r> marcellux: hi
[11:44] <arun> what the equivalent of alsamixer for pulseaudio ?
[11:45] <eur33r> arvindeep: hi
[11:45] <eur33r> lemao: hi
[11:45] <eur33r> FunnyLookinHat: hi
[11:45] <bazhang> eur33r, stop that
[11:45] <eur33r> bazhang: hi
[11:45] <newhoa> I'm using an AMD FX-6100 and don't think Turbo Core/Boost/Whatever is working. I tried to check cpufreq-aperf but it all comes back "offline". Turns out checking /var/log/boot.log shows "Loading cpufreq kernel modules... [fail]". I can't find any info on how to get them to load.
[11:46] <eur33r> ronbeing: mornin'
[11:46] <eur33r> bazhang: I was only saying hi
[11:46] <bazhang> eur33r, stop greeting people here
[11:46] <ronbeing> Hey
[11:46] <eur33r> Why?
[11:46] <bazhang> eur33r, well stop it
[11:46] <eur33r> Why?
[11:46] <FloodBot1> eur33r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <bazhang> eur33r, its a support channel thats why.
[11:46] <eur33r> bazhang: nobody is talking
[11:46] <eur33r> so
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> eur33r  please drop the random comments and keep the channel clear for support
[11:47] <bazhang> !ot | eur33r
[11:47] <eur33r> !fi | bazhang
[11:47] <eur33r> ok
[11:50] <marcellux> hi. I've got a problem. when I connect my laptop to my tv via HDMI nothing happens. any ideas?
[11:54] <marianne> What sound cards does everyone use. I bought a Frailty Sound Blaster and I can't get it to play. I want 5.1 sound and I ended up using the on board sound. Any suggestions for thouse of you that have upgraded sound cards. I'm on 12.04
[11:57] <sepero> marianne: I wish I could help. I'm on a Asus laptop
[11:58] <Yu-Yu> marianne: Does it get detected correctly, ever?
[11:58] <cablop> hello, people
[11:59] <BluesKaj> marianne, your SB card has a history of problems , unfortunately the maker hasn't provided a decent driver for it .
[11:59] <marianne> Yu-Yu: yes, you can choose it in Alsamixer
[11:59] <cablop> mmm, my question is, what are the recommended permissions for a directory to be served with apache, i need to have access to the files i'm serving and at the same time i need for apache to access the files, but i need to restrict the files to other users
[12:00] <ikonia> cablop: no such thing as recommended, you need to lock it down as tight as possible without causing a problem for the application you are running
[12:00] <marianne> BluesKaj: Yeah, I spent all day looking for solutions and was just happy to get the onboard working. I think I'm just going to return it, but if I can exchange it... better solution
[12:00] <cablop> is ikonia a bot?
[12:01] <ikonia> cablop: no,
[12:01] <cablop> oh, sorry
[12:01] <ikonia> no problem
[12:01] <marianne> BluesKaj: I just want to know what others are using... was told in #hardware-ops that they were all PnP
[12:02] <Yu-Yu> marianne: And what happens when you try to play a thing to that card?
[12:02] <cablop> how to setr permissions properly to serve some files with apache, i need rw access, apache nees r and maybe w access, and other users no access to those files
[12:02] <Yu-Yu> Eh…
[12:03] <marianne> Yu-Yu: nothing happens... no sound, even tried speakers from another system
[12:03] <Yu-Yu> marianne:
[12:03] <Yu-Yu> $ lspci | grep -i audio
[12:03] <Yu-Yu> 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Trinity HDMI Audio Controller
[12:03] <Yu-Yu> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 01)
[12:03] <FloodBot1> Yu-Yu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:04] <Yu-Yu> Oh, yup…
[12:05] <marianne> Yu-Yu:  00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 01)
[12:05] <marianne> 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0e0f (rev a1)
[12:05] <marianne> 03:00.0 Audio device: Creative Labs Device 0012 (rev 01)
[12:06] <Silver_Arrow> qjoypad did this, and now I can't get it to restart
[12:06] <Silver_Arrow> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[12:06] <Silver_Arrow> marvin@marvin-laptop:~$
[12:07] <BluesKaj> marianne, that particular was an off chance that it wouldn't work , most PCI cards will work
[12:07] <marianne> Yu-Yu: Right now I have it set to analog output in settings, but I can see the card in there but it wants Digital output...lost on this
[12:07] <planete> hi everyone
[12:08] <marianne> BluesKaj: yeah, I know... FML that i get the one that doesn't
[12:08] <planete> Can somebody help me ? Im looking for accelerate my ubuntu 13.04
[12:08] <planete> how*
[12:09] <bazhang> planete, accelerate what
[12:09] <BluesKaj> marianne, FWIW I bought an m-audio card and it took 10 days to track down a driver for it.
[12:09] <cablop> is it required for directories to have read and execute permissions for others?
[12:10] <planete> i want accelerate my laptop at start and mozilla firefox if it's possible
[12:10] <BluesKaj> marianne, what's the chip number again , it'll be in the upper left in alsamixer
[12:10] <bazhang> planete, how much ram do you have
[12:11] <planete> 2min for start my laptop and 3 for mozilla
[12:11] <cablop> is ubuntu able to access files with 770 permissions?
[12:11] <marianne> BluesKaj: Creative CA0132
[12:11] <planete> and RAM
[12:11] <bazhang> planete, how much ram
[12:11] <planete> i don't know
[12:12] <planete> wait, i'll see it
[12:12] <BluesKaj> ok marianne '
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> planete  here are some tips I picked up in this channel https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_speed.txt
[12:12] <Yu-Yu> cablop: Is what able to access files with 770 permissions??
[12:12] <SwedeMike> cablop: man chmod
[12:12] <davis776> how to update to 12.04.3 from 04.2?
[12:13] <marianne> BluesKaj: Ok noob question.... do digital outputs need special speakers or cables?
[12:13] <bazhang> davis776, thats a downgrade
[12:13] <gordonjcp> davis776: that happens when you just do normal updates
[12:13] <Yu-Yu> marianne: Probably, digital ones?
[12:13] <bazhang> whoops misread
[12:13] <SwedeMike> davis776: just do apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:13] <gordonjcp> marianne: it depends what you're trying to connect to what
[12:13] <jhutchins> cablop: A good rule regarding permissions:  If you don't know what they should be, accept the defaults.  If you think you should change permissions on system files you probably shouldn't.
[12:14] <marianne> Yu-Yu: figures, but it might be an option
[12:14] <marianne> gordonjcp: I just want 5.1 speakers
[12:15] <Yu-Yu> marianne: Honestly, there can be HDMI, SPDIF, opt or any other digital output, dear.
[12:15] <gordonjcp> marianne: so what you'd have then is an amp with a 5.1 digital input, and a corresponding cable to your sound card's digital output
[12:15] <davis776> gordonjcp, I do but right now there is nothing to update and it still says im on 04.2
[12:15] <jhutchins> marianne: digital output can't go directly to a speaker or headphone, it needs to go to a digital decoder.  Some speaker systems use this, most don't.
[12:15] <cablop> jhutchins: the problem is the permissions are not the default... i rescued some files form an old disk, so all of they ended being 775 with my users and group there... i am setting up a file server, so i need to chage tose permissions
[12:15] <Yu-Yu> marianne: Probably, also, it won't work until you connect the whole pack of jacks to your card's output.
[12:16] <jhutchins> cablop: 1) Understand what the numbers mean, 2) Set permissions as appropriate for your tasks.
[12:17] <cablop> jhutchins: i know what tose numbers means... but i wonder one thing 770 will block "system" to access those files (something i saw happening in other os) and does root still have access to those files?
[12:17] <classicchins> any macbook users here ?
[12:17] <gordonjcp> cablop: root has always got read and write access to everything
[12:17] <classicchins> i need some help
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> classicchins: probably a few
[12:17] <gordonjcp> !help | classicchins
[12:17] <BluesKaj> marianne, if the digital output is coaxial then you use regular rca analog type connection , if it's optical then you need a afibre optic cable connecter
[12:18] <cablop> gordonjcp, thanks... and about "system"?
[12:18] <marianne> So, when it comes down to it, my best bet might be to look for speakers that support digital if I want to use the card, but just regular speakers for the on board?
[12:18] <gordonjcp> cablop: what do you mean "system"?
[12:18] <marianne> BluesKaj: it''s optical
[12:19] <cablop> the operative system itself, in windows is there such concept, and you can even restrict access to a file to the system, i wonder what permissions the system in ubuntu uses
[12:19] <BluesKaj> marianne, is there an analog output (probly says "speakers" ) ?
[12:20] <cablop> gordonjcp:  the operative system itself, in windows is there such concept, and you can even restrict access to a file to the system, i wonder what permissions the system in ubuntu uses
[12:20] <zoombini> do all linux os's use the same kernel
[12:20] <Yu-Yu> zoombini: I guess Google helps better with that.
[12:20] <gordonjcp> cablop: I don't know anything about Windows, never used it
[12:20] <marianne> BluesKaj: yes, enough for a 5.1 set up on the on board and the card
[12:20] <gordonjcp> zoombini: no
[12:20] <classicchins> mac users, please ping me
[12:20] <foo2> who should own the files inside the .gnupg folder?
[12:20] <BluesKaj> zoombini, no they don't
[12:20] <jhutchins> cablop: In that sense, "system" is the same as "root".
[12:20] <cablop> zoombini: with a few different flags|options|modules enabled... yes
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> Yu-Yu  read the !google factoid, please
[12:20] <zoombini> so mint and ubuntu dont
[12:21] <jhutchins> cablop: Certain servers like apache run as apache, and therefore need user permissions to access a file.
[12:21] <zoombini> just kernel.com only has like 4 kernels but not the one for mint
[12:21] <cablop> jhutchins: yep, here is www-data
[12:21] <jhutchins> classicchins: No one can help you unless you state the problem clearly.
[12:21] <BluesKaj> marianne, did you have the onboard sound working previous to buying the pci card ?
[12:22] <Silver_Arrow> the kernels tend to be similar, and run the same programs if complied for that system
[12:22] <marianne> BluesKaj: entirely new build
[12:22] <cablop> jhutchins, gordonjcp, good to know that... that makes things easier... now i just need to design a file acces policy here
[12:23] <gordonjcp> cablop: you probably don't
[12:23] <gordonjcp> cablop: what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:23] <marianne> BluesKaj: kind of makes me frustrated as this is the only thing I don't have working likeI want it to... even managed to get Blu-rays up and running in VLC
[12:23] <Yu-Yu> ;D
[12:23] <BluesKaj> marianne, so you haven't tried the onboard sound then ?
[12:23] <jhutchins> !tell cablop about sag
[12:24] <marianne> BluesKaj: the onboard is working, but would like to get the card working instead
[12:24] <BluesKaj> marianne, ok
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> classicchins: what is the issue
[12:24] <foo2> can someone using gpg check the owner of the .gnupg directory for me?
[12:24] <jhutchins> cablop: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/
[12:25] <cablop> gordonjcp: i am configuring a linux box as my home linux server, it is going to be a svn server (via apache), and files server... i rescued a lot of files from previos places and i want to place them in just one folder and define who and how can access them
[12:25] <jhutchins> classicchins: What does the system boot to by default?  Do you have a grub menu? What's on it?
[12:26] <cablop> jhutchins: thanks for that link
[12:26] <gordonjcp> cablop: how do you plan serving up the files?
[12:26] <Silver_Arrow> default is grub with 2 choices, the default boot, then one is a menu that lets you pick recoery modes and old kernels
[12:26] <jhutchins> classicchins: It's better to keep the discussions in-channel so other people can either contribute or benefit.
[12:26] <Silver_Arrow> if I remeber right, that is
[12:26] <cablop> gordonjcp: via samba
[12:26] <classicchins> jhutchins: i need help with dual boot .. i have installed Kubuntu on mac , but once installation is finished, and i reboot the machine, i am not able to chose between OSX and Installed Kubuntu
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> classicchins: which OS does it boot
[12:30] <gordonjcp> cablop: ah okay, I believe samba supports user access control lists
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> it does, use smbpasswd to add users
[12:31] <ZumbaHacker> سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ
[12:32] <Yu-Yu> Mew. ZumbaHacker, ugly one.
[12:33] <classicchins> #kubuntu
[12:33] <BluesKaj> marianne, assume you have 64 bit ubuntu installed ?
[12:33] <cablop> what's a good alternative to ACL?
[12:34] <marianne> BluesKaj: yes 64 bit 12.04.3
[12:34] <ksh0606> hi i am having an issue with emacs snapshot in ubuntu
[12:35] <ksh0606> I started using Linux and Emacs recently. Everything was going fine till I had this dependency issue with emacs-snapshot. Now I am not able to install or remove *any* apps without getting same error regarding emacs-snapshot dependency.
[12:37] <ksh0606> i tried many commands suggested in various ubuntu forums online...but haven't been able to fix it so far...
[12:37] <ksh0606> when i issue sudo apt-get -f install  I get the following error
[12:39] <berryciderspider> Where do I put zookeeper in hbase?
[12:39] <cane> Hi guys, I have a problem with my Ubuntu 13.04 distribution, I cannot install ANY type of software/package anymore, I uninstalled apache2 & xplico a few days ago, now when I try to install any package, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6043991/
[12:39] <ksh0606> eading package lists... Done
[12:39] <ksh0606> Building dependency tree
[12:39] <ksh0606> Reading state information... Done
[12:39] <ksh0606> Correcting dependencies... Done
[12:39] <ksh0606> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[12:39] <FloodBot1> ksh0606: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <ksh0606>   python-pymtp python-mutagen python-gpod
[12:39] <cane> Hi guys, I have a problem with my Ubuntu 13.04 distribution, I cannot install ANY type of software/package anymore, I uninstalled apache2 & xplico a few days ago, now when I try to install any package, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6043991/
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> cane  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue ?
[12:40] <cane> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[12:40] <BluesKaj> marianne, alt+F2 , gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local . Add the following before exit0: rmmod snd_hda_intel , then underneath, modprobe snd_hda_intel position_fix=1
[12:41] <cane> MonkeyDust: please help, i want to install steam.
[12:41] <cane> MonkeyDust: i can't install any package after I uninstalled apache2 & xplico.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> marianne, save and reboot
[12:41] <Guest85723> hey, I installed ubuntu on my brand spankin new system and it fails at grub mentioning something about i386 but I used the amd64 ISO.
[12:41] <cane> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6043991/
[12:41] <Yu-Yu> cane: OMG. Probably, you can work it around either doing «sudo apt-get purge apache2 xplico» or «sudo touch /etc/apache2/ports.conf»?
[12:42] <Yu-Yu> And then uninstalling it again?
[12:42] <cane> let me try, Yu-Yu.
[12:42] <Yu-Yu> cane: Or you better do sudo apt-get install -f
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> cane  what is xplico? it's not in the repos
[12:42] <cane> I am still getting that error, Yu-Yu.
[12:43] <cane> MonkeyDust: I installed it manually.
[12:43] <steve45011> has anyone ever used one of these with Ubuntu Server? I cant find anything via google. http://www.microcenter.com/product/408769/3_Port_Ethernet_USB_20_Hub
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> cane  do you still get the error, after you removed it?
[12:43] <cane> Yu-Yu: your solutions didn't work.
[12:43] <cane> :(
[12:43] <cane> MonkeyDust: I am still getting the error even after I removed it.
[12:43] <Yu-Yu> cane: It was my try. Come closer.
[12:44] <caf4926> Installed Ub 12.04 on efi machine in legacy mode. Because I wiped the the HD, so to have only Ub, but at reboot I just have a blinking cursor
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> cane  try sudo apt-get autoremove, then update again
[12:44] <cane> I did apt-get install -f, and it said Errors were encountered while processing: xplico E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:44] <erkules> hi I would like to use ubuntu with preseeding. I as it looks quite complex. I wonder if there is a preseeding file stored in the filesystem after a 'manual' install I could just use.
[12:44] <cane> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:44] <cane>  xplico
[12:44] <cane> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:44] <Peny> does anyone know what I'm looking for? my server doesn't use enough of it's cpu capability (only 10% or so) even though the website on it has a lot of work to do. What am I looking for, or where ? is it mysql, php, apache, or all of them ? what's the gas-pedal called ?
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> cane  get rid of xplico
[12:45] <cane> MonkeyDust: how?
[12:45] <ksh0606> I have emacs-snapshot dependency issue on ubuntu 12.04 on a 32 bit laptop
[12:45] <marianne> BluesKaj: rebooting... back in a few
[12:45] <jhutchins> cane: Try aptitude -f install
[12:45] <cane> MonkeyDust: I did remove xplico, but it isn't going away.
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> cane  purge it, then autoremove
[12:45] <ksh0606> I have pasted the error log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6044007/
[12:45] <ksh0606> could somebody help me with the issue?
[12:45] <cane> MonkeyDust: purge & autoremove is not solving it.
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> cane  use synaptic to remove it
[12:46] <cane> let me try removing it via synaptic.
[12:46] <jari> hi
[12:46] <bgy> Hi
[12:47] <cane> removing it from synaptic does not work either, E: xplico: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> cane  boot a live cd or usb and remove it from there, find it in /usr/bin/ on the HDD
[12:48] <fgrandel> anyone can help me getting uefi + secureboot to run on a toshiba satellite pro c870?
[12:48] <xtriz> when i am installing gala i am getting following error, how can i correct it ?   gala : Depends: libgranite1 (>= 0.2.2+r602-0+pkg53~raring1) but 0.2.2~r622-0+pkg53~ubuntu13.04.1 is to be installed
[12:48] <xtriz> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[12:48] <cane> MonkeyDust: it isn't going away with synaptic either, I can't install any packages due to this.
[12:48] <cane> >.<
[12:48] <NagWzaIMUGOHKBFa> http://freenode.net/policy.shtml
[12:48] <oQDetsUsCPrDsqrQ> http://freenode.net/policy.shtml
[12:48] <GpzZOJTbYFBsYYSO> http://freenode.net/policy.shtml
[12:48] <DJones> Don't spam offtopic links
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> cane  keep it in the channel, please
[12:49] <cane> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:49] <cane>  xplico
[12:49] <cane> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:49] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | fgrandel
[12:49] <cane> MonkeyDust: look at the output I sent you, do I have to remove all those?
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> !pm | cane
[12:49] <cane> locate xplico
[12:49] <cane> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xplico.list
[12:49] <cane> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xplico.list.save
[12:49] <cane> /etc/init.d/xplico
[12:49] <cane> /var/crash/xplico.0.crash
[12:49] <FloodBot1> cane: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <cane> /var/lib/apt/lists/repo.xplico.org_dists_precise_Release
[12:49] <fgrandel> @ubottu: I read that. Can't get it to work with SecureBoot anyway.
[12:49] <caf4926> Installed Ub 12.04 on efi machine in legacy mode. Because I wiped the the HD, so to have only Ub, but at reboot I just have a blinking cursor
[12:50] <fgrandel> I don't get the UEFI menu although I set timeout to 10 sec via efibootmgr
[12:50] <caf4926> any efi gurus
[12:50] <wilee-nilee> fgrandel, more info, good luck.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[12:50] <NagWzaIMUGOHKBFa> please wait for a staffer to assist you
[12:50] <oQDetsUsCPrDsqrQ> please wait for a staffer to assist you
[12:51] <oQDetsUsCPrDsqrQ> GRFs can take a while to process - be patient
[12:51] <cane> hello?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> cane  boot a live cd or usb and remove it from there, find it in /usr/bin/ on the HDD
[12:52] <cane> MonkeyDust: there is no xplico in /usr/bin.
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> cane  it shows in your sources list, remove it from there
[12:52] <xtre_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[12:52] <xtre_> when i am installing gala i am getting following error, how can i correct it ?   gala : Depends: libgranite1 (>= 0.2.2+r602-0+pkg53~raring1) but 0.2.2~r622-0+pkg53~ubuntu13.04.1 is to be installed
[12:53] <xtre_> can anyone help  ?
[12:53] <xtre_> i googled but couldn't find any solution.
[12:53] <BluesKaj>  xtre_ try sudo apt-get -f install
[12:55] <xtre_> BluesKaj, it told the following packages are automatic installed and are no longer required.
[12:55] <xtre_> should i remove them ?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> xtre_, not yet
[12:56] <xtre_> BluesKaj, so what should i do now ?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> xtre_, did you see any errors ?
[12:57] <xtre_> BluesKaj, no i didn't see any errors.
[12:58] <BluesKaj> is it asking for a Y or N
[12:58] <anonee> is there a straight forward way to remove the blueman applet indicator that I've got after installing xubuntu-desktop?
[12:59] <marianne> BluesKaj: rebooted ... didn't disable onboard in the bios... or select it in alsamixer... settings still only shows digital option
[12:59] <cane> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:59] <cane>  xplico
[12:59] <cane> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:59] <cane> Is there any way to fix this?
[12:59] <cane> I can't install any package.
[12:59] <FloodBot1> cane: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <cane> MonkeyDust: what can I do?
[12:59] <xtre_> BluesKaj, it's not asking for y or n
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> cane  xplico shows in your sources list, remove it
[13:00] <cane> MonkeyDust: how.
[13:00] <BluesKaj> marianne, in alsamixer , F6 , are both soundcards available ?
[13:01] <cane> MonkeyDust: I don't know this sources list.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> xtre_, hit enter
[13:01] <marianne> BluesKaj: yes they were both always visible
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> cane  how and why did you ever install xplico? what is it?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> marianne, okj , choose the CA0132 , now you should have some options available in alsamixer
[13:03] <marianne> BluesKaj: ok... I'm there, what do I need to do?
[13:04] <marianne> BluesKaj: all options are active
[13:04] <xtre_> BluesKaj, i don't have to hit enter it automatically gives me the promt
[13:04] <BluesKaj> marianne, can you paste a screenshot of alsamixer in imagebin.org
[13:05] <anonee> ezra-s, ikonia are you still there?
[13:06] <will_> hey guys. i'm on 13.04 and trying to install the nvidia-319 package... but it's not in my repositories and it doesn't appear under the additional software tab. where should i be looking/what should i be doing to install this?
[13:06] <marianne> bluesKaj: what's the complete URL... usually this just opens, I'm at a screen in it that wants me to sign up and stuff  :-(
[13:07] <BluesKaj> marianne, just scroll to the bottom there's a box where you can navigate to your image without signing in
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> will_: just install nvidia-current
[13:07] <anonee> can anyone tell me what the heck is going on here? http://imageshack.com/a/img836/923/b3pe.png
[13:08] <ezra-s> anonee, I am
[13:08] <will_> ActionParsnip: really? that has nvidia-319? great, thanks :)
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current
[13:08] <BluesKaj> will_, maybe the 319 driver isn't right for your gpu
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> anonee: chrome and telepathy are using the connection
[13:09] <will_> i have a geforce 650
[13:09] <will_> nvidia-current doesn't seem to have the latest drivers
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> will_: the xorg updates ppa (less fresh more stable) may have it
[13:09] <anonee> ezra-s I just posted a link, as you can see there's no more extra info regarding my issue... however, I'm also interested in knowing why do these funny symbols are in the plugin name...
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> will_: what's different between 304 and 319?
[13:09] <anonee> ActionParsnip the ? one in the end of the list stays all the time, even when I close everything...
[13:09] <cane> ActionParsnip: I have a problem with my Ubuntu 13.04 distribution, I cannot install ANY type of software/package anymore, I uninstalled apache2 & xplico a few days ago, now when I try to install any package, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6043991/
[13:09] <marianne> BluesKaj: won't work
[13:10] <will_> ActionParsnip: more features, i think. better performance. i've been getting freezes with 313.30 (which is what i'm running now) so i'm hoping to try 319
[13:10] <xtre_>  0.2.2~r622-0+pkg53~ubuntu13.04.1
[13:10] <will_> ActionParsnip: i'll try the xorg updates ppa, thanks :)
[13:10] <xtre_> ^ whiat is this ?
[13:10] <ezra-s> anonee, you left earlier without saying anything, I now am not interested in helping you, unless you learn some etiquette that is
[13:11] <cane> looks like MonkeyDust ran away.
[13:11] <will_> looks like xorg-edgers has 325 too! didn't realise that was a released version. i'll give it a go
[13:11] <marianne> BLuesKaj: I have options along the bottom for - Headphones - Speaker- PCM-S/PDIF - S/PDIF Default
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> cane  type    which xplico;wheris xplico and manually remove it from there
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> whereis*
[13:14] <BluesKaj> marianne, then make sure non of the ctrls have MM in box at the bottom , to unmute to 00 use the M key , and use the arrow keys to navigate and the updown arrow keys to increase/decrease the volume.
[13:14] <cane> whereis xplico
[13:14] <cane> xplico:
[13:14] <cane> and whichis showed nothing either :(
[13:14] <cane> I am confuzzled.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> marianne, the Speaker ctrl is most important here
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> cane  'which', not 'whichis'
[13:16] <teeeeeeest> hello , Can I ask my xubuntu questions on here ?
[13:16] <cane> MonkeyDust: that shows nothing either.
[13:16] <cablop> it depends teeeeeeest, just ask
[13:17] <BluesKaj> marianne, next , do you have pavucontrol installed ? It solidifies your audio output settings.
[13:17] <marianne> BluesKaj: the speaker is set to 00 and I can't change the value
[13:17] <marianne> BluesKaj: yes, installed that yesterday
[13:18] <will_> thanks for your help guys! i'm going to see if this'll work now! bye
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> cane  try rebooting, if that does not help, contact the maintainer on the xplico website, as it is not in the repos
[13:18] <BluesKaj> the up arrow key won't increase the volume , marianne ?
[13:18] <karab44> Hi
[13:18] <karab44> Ubuntu is wonderful system
[13:19] <marianne> BluesKaj:nope... give me a sec... work is getting in the way
[13:19] <karab44> and I like it so much and more powerful than any windows
[13:19] <cane> MonkeyDust: I did contact one of the xplico's developer, they told me to reinstall Ubuntu.
[13:19] <karab44> but I can not understand one simple thing
[13:19] <cane> and I don't wanna do that.
[13:19] <anonee> ezra-s well, may the etiquette forgive me but I had to leave... however, I mentioned earlier -before leaving- that there's no more info regarding the issue, and that I've already written all what's on the screen, but you -again- asked for pastebin, and there was no time to explain this.
[13:19] <karab44> How the heck set mouse sensitivity?
[13:19] <cablop> hmmm, karab44 it has its downs too, but yes, Ubuntu is a good linux distro
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> cane  good luck then, no further advice
[13:20] <karab44> cablop: One thing I am concerning
[13:20] <karab44> how to set properly mouse sensitivity
[13:20] <karab44> because when I give more it is less...
[13:20] <cane> MonkeyDust: oh alright, shorty.
[13:21] <karab44> and together with acceleration it creates reverse feedback.
[13:21] <flipper88_fl> Don't even get me going on the linux vs winds, osx compaisant rant
[13:21] <classicchins> Yo
[13:22] <karab44> anybody?
[13:22] <marianne> BluesKaj:ok, nothing
[13:22] <karab44> I mean problem is that maximum sensitivity gives less sensitivity than minimum sensitivity.
[13:23] <karab44> and setting the sensitivity is possible only by using acceleration slider
[13:23] <karab44> anybody have same issue?
[13:23] <karab44> I am on 12.04 desktop
[13:24] <karab44> using logitech G5
[13:24] <ezra-s> anonee, so to check a process you are using a network too, what I wanted to see is the ps auxwww and/or top outputs, because chances are you are looking at that specific process with the wrong tool, seeing that it only tells me it is not filtering correctly
[13:24] <BluesKaj> ok , marianne , we need to undo the so called fix in /etc/rc.local , remove the lines that were added there , and save the file , otherwise your onboard audio won
[13:24] <ezra-s> s/too/tool
[13:24] <BluesKaj> marianne, otherwise your onboard audio won't work either
[13:25] <marianne> BluesKaj: thanks you for helping me...
[13:25] <cablop> karab44: hmmm, i don't know about it... i just use the dafult and it is ok for me
[13:25] <BluesKaj> marianne, sorry i'm out of ideas and can't seem to find anything on the 'net that can help
[13:25] <karab44> Yes, mouse is moving but I want more precission
[13:26] <BluesKaj> marianne, perhaps an excjhange at your retailer is in order
[13:26] <ezra-s> anonee, I would bet the root process you are seeing is the same process that is running the tool itself
[13:26] <karab44> Currently I am testing second mouse and it seems to be the same issue
[13:26] <marianne> BluesKaj: that's what I'm thinking....
[13:27] <karab44> So sensitivity does not work at all
[13:27] <Akishona> hi! is someone here that worked or is working with shorewall+fail2ban?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> MrAlexandro, there are other SB cards that work , I'm sure this is just an anomaly
[13:27] <BluesKaj> oops marianne ^
[13:27] <karab44> only thing allows to control somehow is a combination between mouse sensitivity and acceleration.
[13:28] <karab44> can this be registered as a minor bug? I don't know was it fixed in later editions but on 12.04 Desktop it seems it is a minor bug.
[13:29] <karab44> Or I am a pro gamer or doing graphics so it could be crucial
[13:30] <karab44> I tested it on Logitech G5 and HP wireless G3T
[13:30] <ezra-s> anonee, I have ran the same tool for the heck of it and I am seeing the same process
[13:30] <ezra-s> that tool is not too well developed
[13:30] <ezra-s> or maybe you haven't read it's documentation accordingly
[13:33] <cablop> is richacls implemented on ubuntu?
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> !find richacl
[13:34] <cablop> !find richacls
[13:34] <ice9> Running 13.04, Desktop icons disappeared and the boot screen is showing, but the launcher is working fine, how can I reset that?
[13:36] <OerHeks> cablop, richacl ( an attempt to add NT-like ACL support to ext4) no, it hasn't been accepted into the Linux kernel yet.
[13:38] <yanghaipeng> hello
[13:39] <yanghaipeng> i am new
[13:42] <mrrob> Hey
[13:44] <fixxxermet> Does anyone know of a way to detect when a monitor is plugged in / unplugged?  I'd like to run xrandr commands on such events
[13:45] <neta> i have a problem with installing ubuntu 12.04 allongside windows 7. i put the ubuntu on a bootable disk on key (don't have a cd rom). in the bios options menu i enable the uefi (so i can boot from the usb stick), and i get a black screen witn 3 options (try without installing, install, and chck for defacts).if i choose one of the options i get a black screen and nothing else. i can press 'e' to edit the options. i tried to add nomodeset but it
[13:45] <anonee> ezra-s I'm terribly sorry, this DSL disconnects me each time someone calls, although I got the filter in place :( I was saying i don't think so because if you check the tool page they have some screenshots, they don't have such a funny thing, also, how can i use nmap or any other tool if I don't know what I'm looking for? can you suggest something?
[13:46] <caf4926> 12.04 and I installed the AMD FGLRX (post-release updates) driver, is this correct, the other listed is (**experimental**beta)
[13:46] <holstein> anonee: i suggest maybe a hardware channel or tech support for your ISP
[13:49] <anonee> holstein that was an apology for ezra-s, the main question is about an unknown process that has no pid running and using a tcp connection, I wanna find out what's thats it
[13:50] <karab44> could you recommend a good VNC server? Does ubuntu have any default VNC server?
[13:51] <compdoc> vnc4server
[13:51] <holstein> !vnc
[13:51] <MrBushido> is unity's task-switcher (alt+tab) configurable?
[13:52] <karab44> hello holstein, Thanks!
[13:52] <holstein> karab44: i use remmina as a veiwer.. i have used teamviewer in places where i dont want to set up firewall rules..
[13:52] <holstein> !info vino
[13:53] <karab44> holstein: I am about server, not viewer
[13:53] <gig961> ciao a tutti
[13:53] <holstein> karab44: vino and teamviewer are server options, friend
[13:53] <gig961> !list
[13:54] <karab44> is it possible to somehow make a daemon for that? holstein what about this vnc4server?
[13:54] <newbie834> hi 2 all
[13:54] <holstein> karab44: that?
[13:55] <newbie834> i would like to ask your help in the following issue: in ubuntu desktop the sleep mode hotkey on the keyboard works, in xubuntu it doesn't. where to find the problem?
[13:55] <holstein> karab44: anything is possible.. the issue is "good" is a matter of opinion and use case. you'll need to state *exactly* what your needs are, and a volunteer can help you better with a suggestion
[13:56] <karab44> holstein: yes, I know that I have to be more precisely but with my current state of knowledge about ubuntu is not always possible
[13:56] <nhubbard> ok guys, I have a mdadm raid1 that hs lvm running on it. One of the drives has been removed and the system no longer boots. It loads grub, but never makes it past that. I've booted into rescue mode from the cd, but the raid array in inactive, and I'm not finding a way to get it back online in a degraded mode
[13:56] <holstein> newbie834: there is no "problem".. have you tried enabling that feature in the GUI? if there is an option "power button sleeps"?
[13:57] <JamoBox> Hey guys, wondering ig anyone could help me with an issue I'm having. After a force-shutdown the actual desktop doesn't seem to be running. All I have is a black screen (no ubuntu desktop in top left) and Unity panels on the side and top of screen.
[13:57] <karab44> I mean in windows family there is RPD builtin solution, that's why I am asking about some standard in ubuntu
[13:57] <JamoBox> I have restarted a few times to see if it would help resolve it, but no luck
[13:57] <holstein> karab44: its all open, and literally anything is possible, in theory.. what do i suggest? teamviewer if you need remote through a firewall simply.. or, just try the defaults locally... vino vinagre..
[13:57] <holstein> karab44: you may use RDP in ubuntu
[13:58] <JamoBox> It's like whatever process is used to run the ubuntu desktop is not running
[13:58] <holstein> karab44: VNC *is* a standard.. assuming you want to do VNC
[13:58] <karab44> So isn't VNC and RDP acronyms?
[13:58] <karab44> *arn't
[13:58] <newbie834> holstein: no, i tried to find such an option in system preferences or power mgmt, but was not able to find it
[13:59] <holstein> karab44: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Desktop_Protocol
[14:00] <compdoc> vnc4server is great, but Ive been switching to x11rpd, which is better. unfortunately, isnt x11 going away in the future?
[14:00] <holstein> newbie834: one thing you might want to consider is, if you prefer the main ubuntu, you might want to use it.. if you are just coming to xubuntu, maybe just give your self some time with the specific tools.. what you are trying to do is possible, if the hardware supports it
[14:00] <compdoc> *x11rdp
[14:00] <karab44> so basicly I see that vino is installed in ubuntu by default, I don't really want to rubbish my system with many different tools that does same thing
[14:01] <karab44> If vino isn't enough Ill try this vnc4server and x11rdp
[14:01] <newbie834> holstein: it was working before the version upgrade, since it's 13.04 (?) it does not work anymore...
[14:02] <karab44> anyway compdoc holstein thank you very much.
[14:02] <holstein> newbie834: if ubuntu 12.04 and xubuntu 12.04 worked, and xubuntu 13.04 s not working, it could be hardware support related then..
[14:02] <ezra-s> anonee, forget network tools to verify processes, I ran the same tool and I do see that ? process too
[14:02] <ezra-s> it's like using nmap to diagnose a c++ issue
[14:02] <JamoBox> any ideas on my desktop issue? what is the program that runs the ubuntu desktop called?
[14:03] <holstein> newbie834: dont assume that you can implement this feature (easily, at least) in 13.04.. consider using 12.04, or, keep looking around for someone with your specific hardware.. i like to try the terminal command and see if there is any helpful output there.. to make sure the option is possible
[14:03] <holstein> JamoBox: you say "everything was fine til i forced power off" correct?
[14:04] <JamoBox> Yes, I should mention that the force power-off was due to the reason that it was stuck on a purple screen for around 20mins on startup
[14:04] <JamoBox> after that it booted up fine, but with this issue
[14:04] <padhu> Ubuntians, any one using qgis? please gudie me to purchase good GPS marking device which should working with QGIS.
[14:05] <holstein> JamoBox: that is *not* fine.. but, you must entertain what can happen with a force poweroff, and not assume this is a desktop issue
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> padhu  how is that ubuntu related?
[14:05] <newbie834> holstein: yep, the problem rises here, that i'm a newbie user, as shows my nickname, so i guess the terminal command version will not work since unfortunately i don't know what to type in... :(
[14:05] <holstein> JamoBox: if it were me, i would test the hardware a bit.. address why the machine 'froze".. i would look at testing the filesystem, ect
[14:05] <padhu> MonkeyDust: I am using in Ubuntu 12.04, that's why asking...;-)
[14:06] <karab44> okay I see that ubuntu has builtin vnc server, a bit hidden :). Why ubuntu is so shy? :)
[14:06] <JamoBox> holstein: What you you mean by testing?
[14:06] <holstein> newbie834: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line are some options
[14:06] <karab44> what port should I open? Is it standard port for VNC?
[14:06] <newbie834> holstein: thanks, i shall start at the forum
[14:06] <holstein> JamoBox: i mean, forcing power down, as i said, can damage the hard drive, or the filesystem.. so you test for that, since the desktop was (i am reading) fine before the force shutdown
[14:07] <padhu> MonkeyDust: I know that ubuntu-offtapic may be the right place, even though most ubuntu users are here :-)
[14:07] <JamoBox> holstein: thanks, but how do I go about 'testing' it?
[14:07] <JamoBox> nautilus seems to be working fine if that's what you mean
[14:08] <holstein> JamoBox: then, i am misunderstanding you.. the way i read it, you cant get to a desktop.. are you are saying
[14:08] <anonee> ezra-s ummm if you say so... dunno I hope you're right, however, as I told you, ppl have screenshots and this process is not showing in their screenshots :( but I'll convince myself there's no problem...
[14:08] <foo2> anyone here uses seahorse?
[14:08] <holstein> nautilus seems fine.. what *exactly* is the issue JamoBox ?
[14:09] <JamoBox> although when launching from terminal, I get a "cannot open usershare directory" error
[14:09] <holstein> !fsck
[14:10] <karab44> what about this X11 ssh forwarding? Does it have anything common with VNC?
[14:10] <JamoBox> holstein: Allow me to describe in greater detail. The nunity bar and the top panel are present, xorg is fine and I'm not at a black terminal. The issue is, where the wallpapaer would normally be is black, there are no desktop icons, I cannot see any graphical drag selection when left MB dragging on desktop, and there is no right click dropdown on desktop
[14:10] <holstein> karab44: its not vnc.. that is what it says.. forwarding an application via ssh
[14:10] <JamoBox> which is what led me to believe it's something to do with the desktop service
[14:11] <JamoBox> Unity*
[14:12] <karab44> Now I am confused
[14:12] <holstein> JamoBox: sure.. but, you say this is due to a force shutdown.. so at some point, you should consider what that can do to your hardware.. what would i do? test as a new user or as the guest user.. if all is "fine" then the issue is likely in the user /home config..
[14:12] <newbie834> holstein: thanks, i could assign to the sleep key the "pmi action suspend" command, it works (Y)
[14:12] <JamoBox> holstein: Thanks, I'll try that out.
[14:12] <holstein> karab44: if you want to forward an application, forwarding an applictaion over ssh will do that.. if you want to forward a desktop over vnc, vnc does that
[14:12] <karab44> So ubuntu offers me RDP, 143 VNC servers and X11 ssh forwarding. Which one is the best?
[14:13] <holstein> newbie834: then, the hardware is capable of sleep. you can do *many* things from this point, including just putting that command in a terminal
[14:13] <JamoBox> holstein: I tested as a guest user and everything is fine there. No issues at all. What should I look for in my home folder to address this issue then?
[14:13] <karab44> give me a second... I have to get my thoughts together
[14:13] <OerHeks> karab44, choose a service that does not send your password in plain text ;-)
[14:14] <holstein> karab44: "best" is a matter of opinion and use case, friend.. which one suits your needs? all are free to try, including the commercial option i mentioned, teamviewer.. and also freenx
[14:14] <newbie834> holstein: i knew that my pc was able to sleep. :) my problem was only that this hotkey assignment has been lost. now it works :)
[14:15] <holstein> JamoBox: you can try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html .. if you have no idea what to change, you can literally move *eveything* out of the user home.. and test.. i am talking about the hidden folders with .config in from of them
[14:16] <holstein> JamoBox: the idea is, something is looking in your ~/.config/whatever file and getting a "bad" config.. you remove this, and a default "good" one is made, and you login and everything is default
[14:16] <CatMan> Hey, anybody face the issue where Google Chrome causes Ubuntu to freeze?
[14:16] <JamoBox> holstein: thank you, I will attempt this now
[14:17] <Yu-Yu> CatMan: How does it cause it to freeze?
[14:17] <holstein> CatMan: no.. but, i would report it to the maintainer of google chrome
[14:17] <CatMan> The mouse and keyboard becomes inactive
[14:17] <alireza> ok
[14:18] <holstein> CatMan: i think you should have realistic expectations for you hardware.. if it is an older machine.. test with another browser.. try and remove things like flash from the equation
[14:18] <CatMan> ITs brand new and pretty high config
[14:18] <CatMan> 4GB DDR3
[14:18] <CatMan> RAM
[14:19] <CatMan> and core i5
[14:19] <CatMan> Okay, it's not brand new, but only a couple of months old
[14:19] <holstein> CatMan: then, you can ignore this volunteers suggestion about low spec hardware, and go right to the other suggestions. try another browser.. try without flash.. report to maintainers if the issue is isolated to google-chrome
[14:20] <newbie834> thanks for the support, have a nice day! bye
[14:20] <CatMan> sure, i will try that, thanks holstein
[14:20] <Bob__> some secure websites the spinning wheel page doesn't load properly????????
[14:21] <ikonia> spinning wheel page ?
[14:21] <CatMan> I believe it is some memory leak in the Chrome browser code
[14:21] <rammy22> Hello all, Windows 8 keeps on crashing on my system Aspire V3 771G with i5 -3230M and 16 GB RAM
[14:21] <holstein> Bob__: let the sites know you are having issue accessing them.. try other browsers.. try from "private" browsing pages to remove cached cookies from the equation
[14:21] <CatMan> Usually happens when I open a tab
[14:21] <ikonia> rammy22: try the ##windows channel, this one is for ubuntu
[14:21] <holstein> rammy22: i would try a windows channel
[14:21] <rammy22> I want to dual boot to Ubuntu, I used to run Slackware all the way back in 1996
[14:21] <holstein> CatMan: be sure you are runing the stable version, confirm the issue and report it to the devs
[14:22] <holstein> !dualboot | rammy22
[14:22] <CatMan> Yeah, I guess I will do that. Its the stable, latest version from Chrome
[14:22] <CatMan> from Google*
[14:22] <rammy22> Just wondering about printer, I have a multipurpose Brotheer MFC-7720N, I saw brother has drivers for Debian/Ubuntu
[14:22] <holstein> rammy22: try the live CD. and test the hardware
[14:23] <anonee> Your_Dog there's a CatMan!
[14:23] <ikonia> rammy22: brother printers are hit/miss, they can work easy, or not work at all
[14:23] <Your_Dog> Rawr?
[14:23] <rammy22> thanks holstein and ikonia
[14:23] <OerHeks> rammy22, check the openprinting database
[14:23] <Bob__> I have checked with website,changed os,browers setting,java still doesn't load correctly
[14:23] <rammy22> openprinting datata ase thanks OerHeks
[14:24] <Baribal> Hi. How can I find out what the *newest* file on a drive is?
[14:25] <holstein> Bob__: then, let them know you are having issues with their site
[14:25] <rammy22> thanks for your help Oerleks found what I was looking now to go to Ubuntu
[14:26] <sinhayash> Fill this form to help me in my research work
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[14:26] <sinhayash> Do share with your colleagues and friends. :)
[14:26] <FloodBot1> sinhayash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:26] <DJones> sinhayash: Please don't spam
[14:26] <holstein> sinhayash: please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:26] <sinhayash> Ok thanks
[14:26] <Bob__> one more question which windows run best in dual boot set up???????
[14:26] <rammy22> I really hate Windoze
[14:26] <sinhayash> Oh sorry!
[14:26] <ikonia> Bob__: doesn't matter
[14:26] <holstein> Bob__: ask in a windows channel
[14:26] <ikonia> rammy22: it's called windows,
[14:27] <holstein> !ot | rammy22
[14:27] <Yu-Yu> Hey. How do I pass some info to a user who's not online now?
[14:27] <davidals> سمووحخ ̷̴̐ خ ̷̴̐ خ ̷̴̐ خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐ خ"
[14:27] <ezra-s> the world is filled with ungrateful
[14:27] <OerHeks> Yu-Yu, try waiting.
[14:28] <holstein> Yu-Yu: i think you can do a memo.. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml not on topic here
[14:28] <xtingray> I really appreciate if some of you can help me to spread the word of my kickstarter campaign -> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/175927790/tupi-2d-animation-software-for-everyone , it is about free software and 2D animation... thanks!
[14:28] <Yu-Yu> OerHeks, holstein: I can recall now memoserv on IRC.
[14:29] <h00k> xtingray: do not spam in here
[14:29] <xtingray> h00k, ok... sorry
[14:33] <karab44> who told me about x11vnc?
[14:35] <karab44> holstein: can I login autonomously to remote desktop using vino as my server?
[14:35] <karab44> I want to access my computer remotely
[14:35] <Yu-Yu> karab44: Autonomously?
[14:36] <karab44> As far I know using vino a user that is actually using ubuntu must accept remote connection
[14:36] <karab44> so I can not accept my own connection when I am far away.
[14:36] <karab44> Let me test that
[14:36] <karab44> I want to remotely turn the power on and log into screen
[14:37] <karab44> *login
[14:37] <Yu-Yu> karab44: You have to send a magic packet from within your PC LAN.
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> karab44  sounds like wake on lan (WOL)
[14:37] <karab44> yes, yes this part works fine :)
[14:37] <Yu-Yu> Think at least of this, karab44.
[14:38] <holstein> karab44: if you want to set something up like that, you can..
[14:38] <karab44> Few days ago I was using windows 7 RDP and could launch PC and login into desktop without existing session
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> karab44  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[14:39] <holstein> i used to WOL.. but the hardware needs to support it
[14:39] <karab44> MonkeyDust: yes, I did it, it works fine.
[14:39] <karab44> Guys, my sceen is flickering... I got white big horizontal stripes
[14:39] <neta> i have a problem with installing ubuntu 12.04 allongside windows 7. i put the ubuntu on a bootable disk on key (don't have a cd rom). in the bios options menu i enable the UEFI (so i can boot from the usb stick), and i get a black screen witn 3 options (try without installing, install ubuntu, and chck for defacts). if i choose one of the options i get a black screen and nothing else. i can press 'e' to edit the options. i tried to add nomodese
[14:39] <karab44> from time to time
[14:40] <holstein> karab44: also, consider how long (how many years) you used windows before forwarding desktops or remote connections. be sure you give yourself a little time to just get used to linux/ubuntu
[14:41] <karab44> holstein: I am in a hurry
[14:41] <karab44> rush hour
[14:41] <Yu-Yu> neta: Without EFI you can't boot from USB?
[14:41] <karab44> Ain't nobody got time for dat
[14:42] <holstein> karab44: then, you will likely be, just as you would have been in windows, rushed, and unhappy
[14:42] <ceq> hi, i'm having trouble with a freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 on a notebook
[14:42] <ceq> where do I turn to for some help?
[14:42] <neta> yu-yu: nop, that's why i enabled it
[14:42] <ikonia> ceq: just ask the channel
[14:43] <holstein> ceq: if its freshly installed, i would open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and reboot and test. and come here and share details about the issue
[14:43] <ceq> i'll try that
[14:43] <Yu-Yu> neta: most help you can get reading from ubuntu.com: http://goo.gl/cpgzS2
[14:44] <Yu-Yu> neta: Ah, and your machine architecture?
[14:45] <ceq> writing on /var/cache/apt is not possible
[14:45] <ceq> the pakets could not be read
[14:45] <ceq> @ holstein
[14:45] <eSoul> Hey guys, I am running an Ubuntu 13.04 server box and I have a 2nd network card for my VirtualBox VMs.  Right now, I have to issue a "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" on boot to start the interface but I was wondering if there something something in /etc/network/interfaces I could put in to bring the interface up at boot.   It have no network configuration on it at all, just looking to "turn-on" the
[14:45] <eSoul> interface
[14:46] <neta> yu-yu: i tried to google it, didn't find a solution.. my laptop is less then 2 years old, samsung with intel core i-5 4G-RAM with windows 7
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> eSoul  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:46] <eSoul> neta -- did you check your md5sum on your iso?
[14:46] <eSoul> MonkeyDust: thanks
[14:47] <neta> eSoul: yes, it was correct
[14:47] <valeriy_> hi, I have a next problem. Using Nemo File manager, I'm able to open a samba folder, but how can I choose files to open directly from application. Like in audacious, open files that are on samba folder?
[14:47] <ceq> I had to install it on "nomodeset" because there was an issue with the graphic card as far as I understood - but after that the install went fine, it just doesn't boot into ubuntu - only in the recovery mood (GNU GRUB)
[14:48] <ceq> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" says: writing to /var/cache/apt/ isn't possible
[14:48] <eSoul> neta -- your usb key isnt in a blue USB3 port is it?
[14:49] <karab44> hello
[14:49] <neta> eSoul: what blue port??
[14:49] <karab44> i am using my vnc connection right now
[14:49] <Yu-Yu> neta: As before, USB 3.0 port.
[14:49] <eSoul> If your compuer had USB3 ports, they would be blue.  I have had issues with booting computers with usb drives in blue usb3 ports
[14:50] <karab44> on vino server
[14:50] <karab44> ;)
[14:50] <Yu-Yu> karab44: gz on that.
[14:50] <neta> eSoul- i don't think i have USB3... nothing blue anyway
[14:50] <karab44> ill try whole process from booting to shutting down
[14:51] <karab44> thank you for help
[14:51] <karab44> once again people here saves my day
[14:52] <Yu-Yu> I'm here for my first day, and no-one helped me yet. ;D
[14:52] <ceq> same, patience is key i think ;)
[14:53] <Yu-Yu> ceq, did you solve your question?
[14:53] <ceq> nope
[14:53] <Yu-Yu> ceq, while I did.
[14:53] <ceq> good for you ;)
[14:53] <Aaruni> ok guys, this is kind of urgent. I have a macintosh and an ubuntu on a local network. I need to use one of the apps on macintosh. is it possible that I can use that application graphically via ubuntu? ssh, or something ? googling around didn't help.
[14:54] <ikonia> Aaruni: you can try X11 forwarding, but to be honest, you'll probably hit a wall depending on the app
[14:54] <Yu-Yu> Aaruni: ssh can passthru X connection.
[14:54] <eSoul> oh I X11 forward all the time, makes things so much nicer
[14:55] <thinknow> why does the system say i have 3 active users when i only have me? " $ uptime
[14:55] <thinknow>  16:52:11 up 12 days, 22:35,  3 users,  load average: 1.58, 1.37, 1.09"
[14:55] <Aaruni> ikonia, Yu-Yu : already tried ssh -x . gives me errors. I need to work on a presentation using keynote from iWork package, and I read something about using -x switch, but it says something like x forwarding failed
[14:55] <eSoul> Aaruni -- Thanks because its -X
[14:55] <eSoul> *thats
[14:56] <ceq> When I try to boot from a USB-Stick as a test it gets stuck at: "[ 4.846928] [drm] driver supports precise vblank timestamp query."
[14:56] <ikonia> Ampelbein: -X
[14:56] <ikonia> Ampelbein: -x disables it
[14:56] <Yu-Yu> ;D
[14:56] <eSoul> or -Y sometimes if you dont care about the encryption
[14:56] <Yu-Yu> ikonia: Aaruni, not Ampelbein.
[14:57] <Aaruni> eSoul, Yu-Yu, ikonia : http://txt.krow.me/1276/
[14:57] <cardozinho> Oiie
[14:57] <BooshTukka> Can anyone help me applying a unified patch?
[14:58] <eSoul> Aaruni -- are you trying to ssh into your Mac and run a Mac app on your ubuntu machine?
[14:58] <Yu-Yu> Aaruni: Show us OpenSSH config on the server?
[14:58] <Chat7845> Hell
[14:58] <Chat7845>  How r u
[14:59] <eSoul> Aaruni:  You may need to turn on X11 forwarding on OS X's xserver, but honestly I dont know if it supports?
[14:59] <ikonia> Yu-Yu: pardon ?
[14:59] <Aaruni> eSoul: I want to use the mac app, but via my ubuntu machine. I know I can launch apps, but I don't know how to get a graphical display back on the ubuntu machine. Yu-Yu, I would love to share it, but I don't know where to look.
[14:59] <Aaruni> eSoul: you know how to ?
[15:00] <Yu-Yu> ikonia: What pardons? You told it to Ampelbein, while meaning Aaruni.
[15:01] <Yu-Yu> Aaruni: Your ssh server config is…?
[15:01] <Aaruni> Yu-Yu: default, probably...
[15:02] <jhutchins> Aaruni: Is this a native osx app you're trying to forward?
[15:02] <Aaruni> jhutchins: yes
[15:02] <neta> Yu-Yu, eSoul -- btw, i don't find how to disable secureboot
[15:02] <ikonia> Yu-Yu: I see, thank you
[15:02] <jhutchins> Aaruni: I'm pretty sure you can't do that.
[15:02] <ceq> wow now the laptop doesnt even turn on anymore. nice.
[15:02] <Yu-Yu> Aaruni: I guess if you ssh to your Mac, then you run a server there. Not checking its config why ever you ask other people first?
[15:02] <jhutchins> Aaruni: Native apps expect a different display server instead of xorg.
[15:03] <jhutchins> ceq: Possibly your problems were actually hardware.
[15:03] <Aaruni> jhutchins: but I can't even ssh -X into the macintosh
[15:03] <Yu-Yu> neta: Either you can disable, or you can boot securely via some signed media. There on ubuntu.com by UEFI some info I never tried.
[15:03] <ceq> well windows worked fine.
[15:03] <eSoul> Aaruni:  http://bit.ly/yqb9Kl might help you, enabling OS X X server forwarding
[15:03] <Yu-Yu> neta: I prefer avoiding UEFI ever.
[15:03] <Aaruni> Yu-Yu: there is a very nice graphical interface, and I need to only check the box, and it automatically configures the ssh server
[15:04] <Yu-Yu> Aaruni: This is not an argument at all.
[15:04] <Aaruni> Yu-Yu: we were having an argument ? I didn't realize..
[15:05] <jhutchins> Aaruni: Some versions of OSX default to a different ssh protocol.  use ssh -v to see what's happening.
[15:06] <jhutchins> Aaruni: If it's protocol mismatch it's easy to fix.
[15:06] <A1Recon> I have a dual boot system Ubuntu 13.04/Win 7. I have a flashdrive which was last used on a friend's Win7 PC and I think the flashdrive has viruses. If I plug the Flashdrive into my PC (running Ubuntu 13.04 now) will there be any problem??
[15:06] <A1Recon> Can I scan the drive for Win viruses??
[15:07] <anonee> is there an easy way to increase the speed of an acer Aspire 3680 fan?
[15:07] <eSoul> Aaruni -- I would check your OS X's sshd config file and enable X forwarding.  http://bit.ly/yqb9Kl can walk you through it
[15:07] <Aaruni> jhutchins: I can't make head or tail out of this : http://txt.krow.me/1277/
[15:07] <nisheet_lall> Hi
[15:07] <OerHeks> A1Recon, ubuntu does not support win viruses, so no, you are fine unless it is a multi-os virus, very unlikely
[15:07] <ceq> turns out i had to remove the battery for a second. boots again now - but still not to ubuntu, only GNU GRUB
[15:07] <jhutchins> Aaruni: eSoul's page seems to imply that it can be done.
[15:08]  * Yu-Yu in lmao falls out from here. Bb all!
[15:08] <kubanc> hellow. where can i see my pusleaudio log files?
[15:08] <Aaruni> eSoul: checking
[15:09] <nisheet_lall> anyone having trouble with brightness controls in ubuntu 13.10
[15:09] <eSoul> Aaruni:  And make sure you are doing this on your OS X machine
[15:09] <Aaruni> eSoul: I can ssh into OSX and then do it, right ?
[15:09] <eSoul> yes
[15:09] <jhutchins> Aaruni: Interesting.
[15:09]  * flystom .ddd
[15:10] <jhutchins> Did you enable forwarding on your osx system?
[15:10] <Aaruni> I think I did. verifying it now, jhutchins
[15:10] <A1Recon> OerHeks: TY
[15:10] <jhutchins> ceq: Tell us EXACTLY what it IS doing.  WHat does it display?
[15:11] <flystom> say
[15:11] <ceq> I can select between Ubunut (generic), the recovery mode, memtest and memtest with serial console
[15:11] <flystom> lol
[15:11] <kubanc> where can I look for my pulseaudio log files?
[15:11] <jhutchins> ceq: It does not automatically select ubuntu?
[15:11] <ceq> no
[15:11] <jhutchins> ceq: What happens if you select it manually?
[15:12] <ceq> blinking cursor
[15:12] <ceq> nothing happens
[15:12] <ceq> no input possible
[15:12] <karab44> unfortunately using a vino I can not login before session starts.
[15:12] <jhutchins> ceq: Ok, grub is looking in the wrong place for the boot files then.
[15:12] <jhutchins> ceq: Do you have a live image you can boot from?
[15:13] <ceq> (keep in mind i installed with "nomodeset" activated)
[15:13] <ceq> yes i can
[15:13] <ceq> i have a usb stick and cd
[15:13] <jhutchins> Ok.  Actually, you could probably use interactive grub to find the boot partition.
[15:13] <ceq> how do i do that?
[15:13]  * jhutchins wishes he had a shortcut to how to do that...
[15:14] <Aaruni> jhutchins, eSoul : here is the config pastebin : http://txt.krow.me/1278/
[15:14] <eSoul> Aaruni:  Looks good
[15:14] <Aaruni> eSoul: so, next step?
[15:14] <eSoul> if you did the 3 things on the website, edit the file, saved it, restarted sshd, you are done
[15:15] <jhutchins> ceq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[15:15] <ceq> ill work through it and report back, thanks bunches!
[15:15] <karab44> but... I found solution for that
[15:15] <Aaruni> eSoul: I didn't edit it. it was already like that
[15:15] <jhutchins> eSoul: He appears to be getting an xauth failure.
[15:15] <eSoul> jhutchins:  Indeed
[15:15] <MacroMan> Any idea how I can pass command line arguments over putty?
[15:16] <eSoul> Aaruni: try -Y instead of -X
[15:16] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hi to all
[15:16] <Aaruni> eSoul: still doesn't work
[15:16] <eSoul> Aaruni:  one second
[15:16] <jhutchins> Aaruni: Did you kill/restart sshd?
[15:16] <JoBArTe_Skuld> is possible to measure a bandwidth by domain on a eth?
[15:16] <nisheet_lall> Hi all
[15:16] <MacroMan> For example, if I use 'rm -R temp' it tries to remove the directory 'R' which doesn't even exists and fails on the directory removal
[15:17] <Aaruni> here is pastebin for -Y, eSoul, jhutchins : http://txt.krow.me/1279/
[15:17] <Aaruni> jhutchins: I didn't edit the file. it was already like that
[15:17] <flystom> I am a novice。
[15:17] <flystom> .
[15:17] <flystom> ..
[15:17] <flystom> XD
[15:17] <nisheet_lall> :-D
[15:17] <eSoul> Aaruni:  can you install xauth on your OS X system?
[15:17] <eSoul> it could be that easy
[15:18] <Aaruni> MacroMan: 'rm -r temp'
[15:18] <Aaruni> eSoul: all right, checking that
[15:18] <MacroMan> Aaruni, Same thing
[15:18] <Aaruni> MacroMan: not really. -R and -r are different
[15:18] <Aaruni> or, rmdir temp
[15:19] <ceq> jhutchins: where in the troubleshooting can I find the point to look for the boot section?
[15:19] <MacroMan> Ah, cool. Didn't know about rmdir
[15:19] <MacroMan> Still have this argument problem, but I'll come back to it if it's still a problem later.
[15:20] <Aaruni> eSoul, jhutchins : should I try this : http://dvisagie.blogspot.in/2012/08/fix-ssh-y-with-other-macs-osx-108.html
[15:20] <MacroMan> Aaruni, I didn't mean -r and -R are the same thing, I meant it still doesn't pass the argument on as it should.
[15:21] <Aaruni> MacroMan: oh sorry, didn't realise that
[15:21] <MacroMan> See: http://pastie.org/8283705
[15:21] <eSoul> Aaruni:  That is making sure your xauth is installed and in the right places
[15:21] <Aaruni> also, MacroMan, it seems -R and -r are the same thing. although chmod doesn't respond to -r...
[15:21] <Aaruni> eSoul: so, should I try it ?
[15:22] <MacroMan> Aaruni, I always use -R for rm as that's what the man page states.
[15:22] <eSoul> Aaruni: You gotta make sure xauth is installed first
[15:22] <ceq> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update" gives me an error: "couldnt resolve host: launchpad.net"
[15:22] <Aaruni> eSoul: ok, checking how to install xauth on OSX
[15:23] <A1Recon> How do i increase the height of a particular cell while keeping the height of other cells in the row constant.... (LibreOffice Calc) ?
[15:23] <ceq> A1Recon: Not possible afaik... but you can merge the cell with one above
[15:23] <jmav> I removed executable on /lib, cant login to console any more
[15:24] <A1Recon> ceq: I have an MS excel document which has the 4K cell extended to the 19th cell
[15:25] <zykotick9> jmav: try booting to recovery, and change it back (if possible)
[15:25] <karab44> holstein: I need you bro
[15:27] <Aaruni> eSoul: will try that, have to go for food now.
[15:27] <genial> Good day! I've just installed Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 on my HP-machine and I'm having trouble with the network connection being extremely unstable. It will work for a minute, then stop working, then start working again. The NIC is a Intel 82566DM-2. Is that NIC known to be unstable, and is there something I can do to fix it?
[15:30] <ceq> ubuntu is really getting frustrating
[15:30] <karab44> ceq: why?
[15:31] <ceq> cant get it to work on this laptop
[15:31] <karab44> why?
[15:31] <ceq> it doesnt boot
[15:31] <ceq> only into grub
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> ceq  learning something can be frustrating, more so if you're used to something else you have to un-learn
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> something new*
[15:32] <ceq> well, it not booting as it should doesnt have to do with adaption in my eyes
[15:32] <baphomet111> agree MonkeyDust
[15:32] <karab44> ceq: is it after installation or you never made it?
[15:32] <ceq> after installation
[15:32] <ceq> with "nomodeon"
[15:32] <ceq> i think its a graphic issue
[15:33] <eSoul> ceq -- dumb question but have you tried readding the "nomodeset" to your boot string in grub much like you did when you booted with the cd/usb-key
[15:33] <ceq> when i try to boot it from GRUB, I only get a blinking cursor
[15:33] <ceq> Thats what I'm trying to figure out
[15:33] <ceq> eSoul
[15:33] <ceq> how do I add boot parameters?
[15:33] <karab44> ceq: even in recovery mode? Does liveCD boot?
[15:34] <eSoul> I thnk you tap the E key on your keyboard over the menu option you want.  its been a while since Ive had to
[15:34] <ceq> i can get into recovery mode
[15:34] <ceq> yes
[15:34] <ceq> live CD would work, if i knew how to add "nomodeset" to the boot parameters
[15:35] <A1Recon> ceq: Screenshot ..... http://imgur.com/syonlmU
[15:35] <eSoul> ceq -- tap e on the keyboard over the Ubuntu option when you boot
[15:35] <ceq> will try
[15:35] <A1Recon> Official IRC for Libre Office chat?
[15:37] <ceq> so
[15:37] <ceq> i just type "nomodeset" to set the parameter?
[15:37] <eSoul> down after the linux /boot/blahblahblah
[15:37] <eSoul> preferably after splash
[15:38] <ceq> ok
[15:38] <ceq> just "nomodeset" or "-nomodeset"
[15:38] <eSoul> Ctrl-x to boot
[15:38] <ceq> so between "splash" an "$vt_handoff"
[15:38] <eSoul> sure that works
[15:39] <eSoul> anywhere really on the linux line, but not in between equals other other paramaters
[15:39] <eSoul> *and other
[15:39] <ceq> ok done. "system is running in low graphics mode" *fingers crossed*
[15:40] <ceq> so what do i select there "run in low graph this session", "reconfigure graphics", "troubleshoot the error" or "exit to console login" ?
[15:40] <eSoul> run in low graphics this session
[15:40] <ceq> k
[15:40] <eSoul> you wont be able to recongiure your graphics unless you figure out how to for your hardwre
[15:41] <jmav> zykotick9: thx
[15:41] <ceq> ok
[15:41] <ceq> "stand by one minute while the display restarts..."
[15:41] <ceq> now i get a login request
[15:41] <ceq> the sign-in password?
[15:42] <eSoul> well yeah, you are good to go now, you are up and running instead of at a blinking crsur
[15:42] <baphomet111> does anyone in here use Amahi?
[15:45] <Pici> !anyone | baphomet111
[15:46] <Mekaari> I actually thought the first questions asked were like
[15:46] <Mekaari> "can somebody help me???"
[15:46] <Mekaari> "is anyone here??"
[15:46] <baphomet111> ubottu, that is my question.
[15:47] <baphomet111> ubottu, was just wondering
[15:47] <Mekaari> Bots are people too.
[15:47] <drcooper> do not be bottists
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Mekaari, ok now , do you have a question
[15:47] <Mekaari> No.
[15:48] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:48] <kubanc> hellow! how can i prevent HDMI output to go to sleep state?
[15:48] <cpined> good morning....hoping to get some help with a wireless issue on my old sony vaio laptop
[15:48] <cpined> I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed on it...the last time I used the laptop was about a year
[15:49] <cpined> now I tried using it again..but the wireless is no longer working.
[15:49] <cpined> it just says that it is requesting a network address
[15:49] <cpined> it says "Requesting a wireless network address for ..."
[15:51] <cpined> it is able to detect my wifi network, but it does not connect.
[15:53] <baphomet111> cpined, has your router changed? does your wifi nic support the channel it is on?
[15:53] <baphomet111> is there much interference in the area?
[15:54] <cpined> it is a new router
[15:54] <cpined> all of my other still work
[15:54] <cpined> devices
[15:54] <cpined> how do I know if my wifi nic supports the channel?
[15:54] <baphomet111> cpined, just because your other devices still work doens't mean your at least 1 year old device works.
[15:54] <cpined> ic
[15:55] <baphomet111> first of all, are we talking 2.4 or 5ghz?
[15:55] <cpined> I did change the channel per the tech support because of issues with my blu-ray player
[15:55] <cpined> is there a standard channel?
[15:55] <baphomet111> are we talking 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
[15:55] <baphomet111> answer that first
[15:56] <baphomet111> because that matters.
[15:56] <baphomet111> cpined, ?
[15:57] <cpined> yes
[15:57] <baphomet111> yes what?
[15:57] <cpined> I think you might be correct
[15:57] <baphomet111> are you using 2.4 or 5ghz?
[15:57] <cpined> I don't know
[15:58] <cpined> the router is from ATT Uverse
[15:58] <sharpshooter> hi friends what is the best snippet collector for ubuntu/linux ?
[15:58] <baphomet111> ....
[15:58] <baphomet111> cpined, that doesn't help much.
[15:58] <cpined> Most likely it is 2.5
[15:58] <cpined> sorry, 2.4
[15:58] <dimas> # joint chanell jakarta
[15:59] <baphomet111> if it is 5ghz I have seen problems. if it is 2.4, then your card most likely supports the channel it's on unless it's using channel 14.
[15:59] <cpined> I'll check
[15:59] <LongJack> .
[15:59] <LongJack> .
[16:00] <cpined> the router is on channel 11
[16:00] <tgunr> I thought I read a while ago somewhere that you could share a terminal session between users using byobu or tmux or something, now I can't see how to do that. I have another user who wants me to watch his screen as he enter commands so I can see the results. Is this possible?
[16:01] <baphomet111> cpined, try channel 6
[16:01] <baphomet111> see what happens
[16:02] <cpined> ok
[16:02] <karab44> Funny thing happenes
[16:02] <karab44> I can no login. Screen gets black and go back to login screen
[16:03] <karab44> Guest login works fine
[16:03] <cpined> on the laptop it still hangs with "Requesting a wireless network address for "
[16:04] <baphomet111> and it never connects?
[16:04] <cpined> no
[16:04] <baphomet111> hmm.
[16:04] <baphomet111> does it prompt you for a password?
[16:04] <cpined> It just comes back and says "Wireless disconnected"
[16:05] <cpined> It does sometimes...I did put one in though.
[16:05] <cpined> Should I try a new channel?
[16:05] <baphomet111> I would clear out the entry from network manager and try again
[16:05] <baphomet111> channel 6 and 11 should be fine
[16:07] <cpined> ok...thanks for your help!
[16:07] <baphomet111> let me know how it goes
[16:07] <baphomet111> this can really only a couple things
[16:08] <cpined> Same results..after rebooting laptop
[16:09] <baphomet111> ...
[16:09] <baphomet111> did you clear the entries like I asked?
[16:09] <baphomet111> or did you just reboot
[16:10] <cpined> just reboot
[16:10] <cpined> how do I clear the entries?
[16:10] <baphomet111> ok, well that is not what I asked
[16:10] <baphomet111> in the upper right
[16:10] <baphomet111> click on the place where the wifi logo stuff is
[16:10] <burg> hello. how can i remove effective acl mask recursively (and also for newly created files/directories) ?
[16:10] <baphomet111> click edit connections
[16:10] <baphomet111> remove any wireless connections you see
[16:10] <baphomet111> then try again
[16:10] <cpined> ok
[16:12] <cpined> I cleared it out...same problem.
[16:12] <BluesKaj> cpined, what does iwconfig output ? pastebin it please
[16:13] <cpined> I'm sorry, what does pastebin mean?
[16:13] <jhutchins> !paste
[16:14] <baphomet111> BluesKaj, it sounds like it's not authenticating to his network
[16:14] <baphomet111> could be a DHCP issue.  could be MAC filtering set up on the router
[16:14] <dv__> .
[16:14] <baphomet111> I had him switch to channel 6
[16:14] <BluesKaj> let's see if there's a route to it
[16:14] <cpined> well....I'm talking with you on my desktop....while trying out the stuff on my laptop.
[16:15] <BluesKaj> cpined, right ..kinda figured that
[16:15] <baphomet111> cpined, you can still pastebin it
[16:15] <Basil1x> How do I chown an external hdd?
[16:15] <baphomet111> copy and paste the output to a file and drop the file to your desktop
[16:15] <baphomet111> Basil1x, like a boss.
[16:16] <Desert_eagle> hi2all
[16:16] <zykotick9> Basil1x: what format is it?  fat/ntfs or an EXT*?
[16:16] <cpined> ok....sorry guys...I need to leave but will be back in an hour...thanks so much.
[16:16] <Desert_eagle> how could I build ubuntu hvm ami for amazon
[16:16] <Desert_eagle> ?
[16:16] <lmat> I have some large xml documents that I would like to query using xquery. Is there an obvious forerunner in xquery implementations these days ? (command line, please)
[16:17] <Basil1x> Ext4
[16:17] <Basil1x> Called 'Bob'
[16:17] <lmat> Desert_eagle: hi2u
[16:17] <zykotick9> Basil1x: then mount it, and change the mount point permission after it's mounted.
[16:17] <lmat> Desert_eagle: What do you mean by "for amazon"? Like, you're going to Brazil with this system?
[16:17] <lmat> Desert_eagle: Or you're trying to use it as a trojan horse offering to Amazon incorporated?
[16:17] <Basil1x> It says I'm not the owner, so can't change the permissions
[16:17] <Desert_eagle> amazon ec2
[16:18] <zykotick9> Basil1x: are you using sudo?
[16:18] <Basil1x> Wait... think I just managed it.
[16:19] <Basil1x> Thanks.  Got it.
[16:19] <Basil1x> It was having a panic, so I was.
[16:19] <Basil1x> TTFN
[16:19] <baphomet111> sudo !!
[16:19] <baphomet111> !
[16:20] <lmat> baphomet111: :)
[16:20] <baphomet111> :)
[16:21] <lmat> I guess I'll go with saxonb-xquery...
[16:22] <BluesKaj> bbl
[16:24] <tgunr> trying to use screen in multiuser mode with little success, loggind in as thatuser I execute screen and I have multiuser on, acladd thisuser, from thisuser i try `screen -r thatuser' and get "There is no screen to be resumed matching thatuser" according to http://aperiodic.net/screen/multiuser this work no?
[16:27] <a7i3n> In case anyone is interested I've been running i3 on Ubuntu and have found it works really well as a unity replacement for my laptop.
[16:27] <baphomet111> a7i3n, cool.  ubuntu is good stuff.
[16:27] <baphomet111> welcome to the world of linux
[16:28] <a7i3n> ubuntu is good
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> a7i3n: what is i3?
[16:28] <LaCroix-> I have not utilized Ubuntu yet, right now researching it, thinking of taking my lap top and cell to ubuntu
[16:28] <Aaruni> at first I read "running ubuntu on [intel core] i3", and I'm wondering to myself, how is a processor replacement for unity.. :|
[16:29] <a7i3n> I actually have it set up with the keymappings for my laptops "special buttons"
[16:29] <holstein> !info i3
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> a7i3n: unity isnt a wm, its a plugin for the compiz wm
[16:29] <a7i3n> i3 is a tiling window manager
[16:30] <lmat> nm, I went with xqilla
[16:30] <baphomet111> hahaha Aaruni me too
[16:30] <a7i3n> You can find a version in the repositories but it's better to go to their webpage and get the newer version.
[16:30] <Aaruni> baphomet111: :)
[16:31] <baphomet111> I am trying to find a NUC or NUC type system with a quad core CPU.  seems impossible :(
[16:31] <baphomet111> at least right now it does
[16:31] <a7i3n> Is VERY fast compared to unity but the underlying setup for unity makes it pretty...
[16:31] <clue_h> purely anecdotal but i've always found xfce4 to work well in ubuntu
[16:31] <njuergens> tgunr, try 'screen -x' instead of '-r' because -r is for already _detached_ screens
[16:32] <tgunr> hmm, ok
[16:32] <baphomet111> a7i3n, screenshots?
[16:32] <holstein> you really cant and dont need to compare them, since they are not meant to emuate nor replace each other.. if unity meets your needs, use it.. if not, i3 might work great for you
[16:32] <a7i3n> I've used xfce4 as well, also have e and awesome installed for fun
[16:32] <tgunr> same thing 'screen -x davec
[16:32] <tgunr> There is no screen to be attached matching davec.'
[16:33] <holstein> tgunr: list the screens.. screen -list
[16:33] <Guest97029> Hi
[16:33] <plokami666> Hello
[16:33] <a7i3n> No comparison really I simply like them all...
[16:33] <Guest97029> I have strange problem
[16:33] <Guest97029> How to solve it??
[16:33] <clue_h> whats the problem
[16:33] <holstein> !details | Guest97029
[16:33] <Guest97029> Windows
[16:33] <a7i3n> < Changes windowmanagers like some people change socks...
[16:33] <Guest97029> 7
[16:34] <Guest97029> I have license and W-soft
[16:34] <eSoul> a7i3n -- once a month? :-p
[16:34] <holstein> Guest97029: use a windows support channtl
[16:34] <holstein> channel*
[16:34] <Guest97029> But when I virtualise it - I do not see root folder
[16:34] <tgunr> shows only one screen although i have another screen running in another terminal window as davec
[16:34] <a7i3n> at least esoul... at least... Change OS almost as often... sigh...
[16:34] <clue_h> Guest97029, if you're worried about reinstalling just use ubuntu on a virtual machine ontop of windows, no licence issues or having to reinstall things
[16:35] <njuergens> tgunr, try 'screen -x davec/'
[16:35] <Guest97029> how to turn net on v-box??
[16:35] <tgunr> now getting somewhere "Must run suid root for multiuser support."
[16:35] <plokami666> I would like to make a directory accessible by a few different users through ftp on ubuntu server 12.04. The owner of the directory has a valid shell through witch I'm running a couple different programs in screen so giving others access to that user is out of the question. Is it possible to make it so other users can upload to that directory and the main user can read/write from/to the files?
[16:36] <Guest97029> I cannt go out from Ubuntu))
[16:36] <plokami666> I don't have an ftp server installed yet btw.
[16:36] <gordonjcp> plokami666: don't install one
[16:36] <gordonjcp> ftp is fundamentally stupid and broken
[16:36] <Guest97029> ls /pidor/here
[16:37] <zykotick9> plokami666: ftp is terrible... consider a secure alternative.
[16:37] <a7i3n> ssh is good
[16:37] <newhite> In Ubuntu 12.04, How do you investigate the devices  connected to the computer ?
[16:37] <plokami666> Well, I can use sftp then. But the question stands. How would I go about doing the above?
[16:38] <clue_h> newhite, hardinfo is a good program for that
[16:38] <karab44> isn't NX actually the best technology for remote desktops?
[16:38] <newhite> stevanr thanks
[16:38] <holstein> karab44: "best" is a matter of opinion, and use case.. its best if you want that technology
[16:38] <clue_h> newhite, but also you can inspect from the terminal with dmidecode
[16:38] <jcgs> newhite: lspci in terminal as well
[16:39] <holstein> karab44: its not a remote desktop.. it forwards a destkop session, which might be preferred.. or not
[16:39] <karab44> holstein: vino is very slow and I can not login without existing session so in my opinion it is very best.
[16:39] <karab44> *not very best
[16:39] <karab44> hehe
[16:39] <holstein> karab44: its not the same technology.. so its not fair to compare
[16:39] <newhite> jcgs, thanks I just entered that and receive the list I am looking for.
[16:40] <njuergens> tgunr, you could try 'sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/screen' however generally suid-root is considered to be a security risk
[16:40] <jcgs> newhite: no worries :)
[16:40] <tgunr> yeah, but ok as these are behind dmz
[16:41] <tgunr>  tried that and get '/var/run/screen must be 755' but it is already 755
[16:41] <jcgs> Has anyone here had any luck running xen? I've installed it, but when I choose the hypervised kernel it gets most of the way through the boot process and then hangs before the login screen comes up. It won't even respond to crtl-alt-del at that stage, and I have to pull the plug :(
[16:41] <karab44> holstein: okay, never mind. Don't compare technologies. I have requirements, yes? I need to startup and login remotely my PC. It's good when screen is quite smooth but most important are like I mentioned.
[16:42] <karab44> so vino does not fulfill my requirements
[16:42] <fabian68> bonjour, j'ai un petit problème avec wine 1.4 je voudrais faire une mise à jour avec 1.6 mais je n'y arrive pas, quelque'un peut il maider ?
[16:42] <karab44> I can not login
[16:42] <DJones> !fr | fabian68
[16:42] <clue_h> it's not compatible
[16:42] <karab44> I found somewhere tutorial how to make it works but it is for older ubuntu versions.
[16:43] <jcgs> karab44: was that for me?
[16:43] <karab44> jcgs: probably not, but how may I help you?
[16:44] <njuergens> tgunr, did you forget the '/' maybe? screen -x davec/
[16:45] <karab44> holstein: look what I found NX allows users to create new X11 sessions and forwards all X communication to the remote client.
[16:45] <karab44>  
[16:45] <karab44> VNC simply forwards what a logged in user sees on the desktop similar to how video would be transmitted.
[16:45] <jcgs> karab44: i missed the first part of your conversation i think, so i can;t quite understand what you're talking about. my question is above, i posted it at 17:41
[16:45] <tgunr> nope, but got it, i was trying screen -x davec/ from within a screen session, logged out and back in and on first try osf screen -x davec/ it connected
[16:45] <plokami666> As a possible reply to my question, could I chown the directory under a group and attach both users to that group? Wouldn't they both get read/write access to the dir then?
[16:45] <tgunr> guess you can't connect from within
[16:45] <karab44> jcgs I am duscussing with holstein "best" method to use remote desktop.
[16:46] <tgunr> but thanks njuergens that was a big help, now can show some examples to my two users
[16:46] <jcgs> plokami: does a sticky directory do the job?
[16:46] <jcgs> plokami666:^
[16:46] <plokami666> I'm sorry but I've no idea what a sticky directory is.
[16:46] <limaky> hi everyone!
[16:47] <jcgs> plokami666: do a google search, but it changes how file permissions are applied to files in the directory. Wikipedia explains it better than i could.
[16:48] <plokami666> On it
[16:48] <Silver_Arrow> qjoypad crashed with this line in the terminal last night, and I can't get it to relaunch
[16:48] <Silver_Arrow> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[16:49] <Dark_light> How can I manage lenses, enable/disable them, without having to remove/reinstall them everytime ?
[16:49] <newhite> how does one trouble shoot when UBuntu doesn't boot propertly ?
[16:49] <ozzloy> i'm trying to bring my bluetooth back up without rebooting.  i just woke from suspend and now bt is not coming up.  i've tried rfkill unblock and service bluetooth restart to no avail.  what do?  what log can i check for clues?
[16:49] <ozzloy> ubuntu 12.04
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> Dark_light  system settings > privacy
[16:50] <ikonia> newhite: depends where/how it's failing
[16:50] <plokami666> I'm seeing that with a sticky directory anyone would have access to it but only file owners would be able to delete stuff. I'm not too sure that's a good idea.
[16:50] <usuario_> dff
[16:50] <usuario_> jefer_elcapo@hotmail.com
[16:50] <Dark_light> MonkeyDust: but that's a global switch I want to have the possibility to enable/disable single lenses/scopes
[16:50] <plokami666> jcgs: ^
[16:50] <darkangel_> Hey just woudering if u get a Pipe Error from a Wine program is it importand enough to Send it as a Bug report at Wine HQ?
[16:50] <jcgs> plokami666: I think it won't do the job, but it is available. I think you just need to mess around with the right group setup.
[16:51] <ikonia> darkangel_: any bug is important if you want people to maintain it
[16:51] <jcgs> plokami666: you can make sticky not world-writable if you want
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> Dark_light  launch dconf-editor, maybe you find something there
[16:51] <darkangel_> ok =) thx
[16:52] <plokami666> I'm on a production server so I can't really mess around too much. Which is why I'm asking here ^^
[16:52] <plokami666> Anyway
[16:52] <plokami666> If I was to chown the dir under a group and give the proper perms to the group, wouldn't the users under it all have access to the files?
[16:52] <newhite> ikonia, it gets past the bios, harddrive detection.  When it attempts to load ubuntu.  i receive a black screen with the mouse cursor
[16:52] <plokami666> Or well, can I even chown under a group? Never had to do that before
[16:52] <ikonia> plokami666: if you're on a production server and don't know this stuff, I strongly suggest talking to someone else who runs the server and who does know this
[16:53] <ikonia> plokami666: file system permissions like this can be a big risk both functionality and security, so really, don't touch if you don't know on a production server
[16:53] <Dark_light> MonkeyDust: I had hoped for something more straightforward, I have found this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/lens-toggle-quickly-enable-disable.html but it's for 12.04 only
[16:53] <Silver_Arrow> found the problem, it was running, but panel is refusing to show it's widget making interactio with it impossible
[16:53] <sudormrf> Hey. I want a detachable touchscreen ultrabook that will run ubuntu without a lot of install effort... any suggestions?
[16:53] <ikonia> newhite: I'd remove the splash screen for starters,
[16:55] <newhite> ikonia,  Does this website do it?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/33416/how-do-i-disable-the-boot-splash-screen
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> Dark_light  find 13.04 on this page http://www.adminreseau.fr/lens-toggle-quickly-enable-disable-unity-lenses-without-removing-them/
[16:56] <ikonia> newhite: looks good
[16:56] <newhite> ikonia,  sweet, I'll do that and see if there is a difference
[16:56] <newhite> ikonia,  sweet, thanks
[16:56] <ikonia> newhite: note down any errors, or warnings
[16:56] <ikonia> newhite: may well be clean, but worth checking
[16:57] <Dark_light> MonkeyDust: thanks!
[17:00] <ks1> hi
[17:01] <newhite> On boot up, what does Empty Security Header mean?\
[17:06] <kelonye> hi what could be the cause of this difference https://cloudup.com/iayyxmuCD1x (fedora-gnome) , https://cloudup.com/iu2DnD8w070 (ubuntu)
[17:07] <newhite> what does the error empty security header mean?
[17:07] <Eighteens> i'm using a older version of ubuntu, and was wondering how i can make it see all 10gb of ram? --it's 10.04 32 bit, can i edit the boot command line and add the memory there
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> Eighteens  10.04 desktop or server? desktop is no longer supported
[17:08] <Eighteens> desktop
[17:08] <jcgs> Eighteens: 32-bit kernels can't normally see more than 4GB of ram. you need a kernel with PAE
[17:09] <njuergens> Eighteens, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[17:09] <Eighteens> can i copy a kernel from another machine that has the PAE, to the other machine
[17:09] <jcgs> Eighteens: One should be available in the repositories (if they still exist)
[17:10] <Eighteens> ok, thanks MonkeyDust, jcgs, njuergens... much appreciated.
[17:10] <gattuso5065> can use john the ripper with ubuntu
[17:10] <BluesKaj> Eighteens, this is just the begining of many more problems to come if you don't upgrade to at least 12.04 soon
[17:11] <Aaruni> ok, jhutchins, ssh -Y worked
[17:11] <Aaruni> now, I need to launch an application, so that it will show up in my ubuntu box.
[17:11] <Aaruni> simply launch, or some other command ?
[17:11] <Eighteens> BluesKaj: I tried 11, 12, and 13.04, but went back to 10.04 because i hated the fact of the missing application bar at op
[17:11] <Eighteens> top
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> Eighteens  xubuntu has that bar on top
[17:12] <BluesKaj> really ? ...wow , well if you can't live with something a bit different , then good luck !
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> Eighteens  "Fallback" has it too, looks very much like gnome2
[17:13] <loulan> hi.
[17:13] <loulan> I have a libtool issue.
[17:14] <loulan> it's telling me that there is an undefined reference to a symbol, but when I nm the library that I use, it contains that symbol...
[17:15] <cpined> ok...back...I did the pastebin
[17:15] <Eighteens> MonkeyDust: so i can use 13.04 with a top panel bar?
[17:15] <BluesKaj> post the url , cpined
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> Eighteens  yes
[17:16] <Eighteens> MonkeyDust: sweet, thank you...
[17:16] <cpined> paste.ubuntu.com/6044913/
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> Eighteens  look for Fallback in the repos http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fpdM3UOam3Y/TzW6lrA9yNI/AAAAAAAAHuQ/5Wf9Xum-oxQ/s1600/ubuntu12.04-classic-session.png
[17:18] <kelonye> :(
[17:19] <Eighteens> MonkeyDust: I have to use noapic on the command line in one of the machines we use, will this be a issue under 13.04? any ideas?
[17:20] <BluesKaj> cpined, in the terminal ,  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up , then , sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid , your network manager should be asking for a password and encryption , either wep or wpa-pssk , preferably the latter
[17:20] <cpined> ok
[17:20] <cpined> let me try
[17:21] <Joe____> Can anyone help me out, im new to ubuntu. On my task bar under sound, rythmbox has a weird white square around the play button. how do i get rid of it?
[17:21] <Eighteens> MonkeyDust: i have another issue, one of the windows 7 machines was seriously infected with viruses, so i formatted the drive and put ubuntu on it, now it works great but doesn't print to one of the wireless printers it use to before, and I can't get support from Kodak on this issue, how can i go about using a ndiswrapper?
[17:22] <cpined> I got some output, I see my router but it did not ask me for the password.
[17:24] <anonee> can i use the terminal as su when I'm logged in from a standard user GUI? excuse me for the dumb question but I really don't know?
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> Eighteens  better ask someone else, i'm no help for that
[17:27] <gattuso5065> hi
[17:27] <marco__> hi all
[17:27] <BluesKaj> cpined, open the network manager and enter the password and encyption type (wpa-psk) in the fields provided there
[17:28] <gattuso5065> marco hi
[17:29] <marco__> hi gattuso5065
[17:29] <cpined> only wpa option I see is: WPA & WPA2 Personal and WPA & WPA2 Enterprise
[17:30] <gattuso5065> marco you know how we install john the ripper
[17:30] <BluesKaj> WPA2 Personal
[17:30] <agrester> How can I obtain an older *.deb package from the Ubuntu repositories that's no longer published?
[17:31] <agrester> I'm trying to get this nvidia-319-319.17-0ubuntu1+xedgers~raring1
[17:31] <cpined> ok..looks like it just hangs on 'Requesting a wireless network address for '''
[17:32] <atira_> hi, would anyone tell me what terminal app is this for keeping differenets terminal in the same screen? : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KoYvxo-RoNg/UiB_wpLingI/AAAAAAAABCQ/BM_VQfb7_Ro/s1600/tmux-terminal-multiplexer.png
[17:32] <atira_> thank you
[17:32] <BluesKaj> agrester, that's ppa , go to xedgers and follow the instructions to install it in your sources
[17:32] <trism> atira_: tmux (guessing from the name of the image)
[17:33] <atira_> trism: thank you so much :)
[17:33] <agrester> +BluesKaj, I'm just trying to get this file, is there a way I can download it from launchpad?
[17:34] <daftykins> atira_: try terminator also
[17:34] <atira_> daftykins: ok thank you
[17:34] <atira_> :)
[17:35] <BluesKaj> agrester, you can search for it on launchpad yes
[17:37] <Aaruni> jhutchins, ikonia: finally using VNC. ssh -Y connects and launches applications, but fails to display them on the ubuntu box
[17:40] <kelvinella> hi, I am frustrated.  My computer runs really slow sometimes and I am suspicious about the flash is using 100% CPU but I dont know how to solve it?
[17:41] <Craig910> update your flashplayer maybe?
[17:41] <kelvinella> It doesnt happen until recently
[17:41] <kelvinella> I updated it i think
[17:42] <Craig910> is it always 100% even without playing?
[17:42] <OerHeks> kelvinella, flash is a hog, restart the page/browser is your solution
[17:42] <kelvinella> around 90% without anything running
[17:43] <kelvinella> i even close all browsers and it is still slow
[17:43] <atira_> quit
[17:43] <kelvinella> i either reboot or wait for like 15 min until the system runs smooth again
[17:44] <Craig910> if you think flash slows your computer down, why dont you uninstall it to see if it fix the problem?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> kelvinella, use , ctrl+escape , or htop to find out what's using up you resources
[17:46] <Hanumaan> how to move windows which are in second montior along with first monitor ?
[17:46] <kelvinella> last time i checked, its the apt-get, apt-check, using up 90% dont know why
[17:47] <BluesKaj> kelvinella, do you have auto updates/upgrades set in software sources
[17:47] <bewest> is unity-2d-panel gone altogether in raring?
[17:48] <kelvinella> dont know
[17:48] <bewest> if I was using the 2d vesion (to co-operate with xmonad) am I better off choosing another docker altogether?
[17:48] <kelvinella> i didnt change anything
[17:48] <kelvinella> for like 9 months nothing wrong until recently it is slow
[17:48] <kelvinella> update-apt-xapi ??
[17:48] <kelvinella> whats that?
[17:49] <holstein> bewest: AfAIK, unity2d is not going to be around..
[17:50] <trism> kelvinella: it's used by software-center to index packages
[17:55] <BluesKaj> kelvinella, you can turn the file indexer/nepomuk off if you wish
[17:56] <martinrame> hi, does anyone know why an Ubuntu Server 12.04, after booting, instead of showing the console mode login is in a black screen?. I can login using ssh, but not from the computer itself.
[17:58] <daftykins> martinrame: nvidia graphics?
[17:58] <daftykins> oh CLI install huh
[17:58] <martinrame> daftykins: yes is CLI install.
[17:59] <daftykins> what kind of system is it?
[17:59] <minimalist> hi folks
[17:59] <minimalist> i'm having trouble with the broadcom bcm4314 wireless drivers
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> !bcm
[18:00] <urban120> hello can sameone help me i am stuck with grub rescue
[18:00] <minimalist> which is better wl or brcsmac
[18:00] <minimalist> urban120, whats the issue?
[18:00] <XLV> martinrame, what kind of gpu chip?
[18:00] <daftykins> minimalist: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880
[18:00] <high_fiver> martinrame, monitor switched on?
[18:01] <minimalist> dayangkun, i'm using the open source brcmsmac driver but the signals weak for some reason
[18:01] <urban120> i instaled eOS on a spare partition on my hard drive and tried it after that i went to ubuntu and deleted eOS partition
[18:01] <urban120> and now i have grub rescue
[18:02] <high_fiver> martinrame, did you install a DWM?
[18:02] <martinrame> high_fiver: no
[18:03] <XLV> urban120, boot from some ubuntu live cd, mount /root to /mnt/<some dir>, then chroot <some dir>, then grub-install /dev/<your boot device>
[18:03] <high_fiver> martinrame, you got it now
[18:03] <urban120> ok ty
[18:03] <martinrame> high_fiver: of course the monitor is on.
[18:03] <high_fiver> martinrame, :P
[18:04] <martinrame> where's the /etc/inittab file?
[18:04] <JuJuBee> My proxy/firewall is redirecting all traffic generated by itself to localhost for some reason all of a sudden.  Any suggestions?
[18:05] <ikonia> JuJuBee: fix your firewall rules
[18:05] <JuJuBee> ikonia: I have not made any changes since last May when it was operating just fine.
[18:05] <JuJuBee> I lefft school for the summer...
[18:05] <ikonia> then your rules have always been broken and you've just noticed, or someone else has made a chance
[18:05] <ikonia> change
[18:06] <minimalist> martinrame,  thez no inittab file
[18:06] <JuJuBee> Hmmm, my internet provider changed my modem a few weeks ago...  maybe that is it?
[18:06] <ikonia> JuJuBee: is your firewall on your modem or ubuntu
[18:06] <JuJuBee> ubuntu
[18:06] <ikonia> JuJuBee: has your ip changed
[18:07] <JuJuBee> It did initially as they did not se the modem to bridge
[18:07] <JuJuBee> It has built in router
[18:07] <ikonia> has it changed yes/no
[18:07] <JuJuBee> it is back to what it should be again
[18:07] <mitch-_> is there a way to have gns3 set the xterm window size??
[18:08] <BluesKaj> usually a new modem/router changes the local network IPs
[18:08] <JuJuBee> ikonia: pc on my lan can get out fine only traffic from firewall to internet is redirected.
[18:09] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj: it did initially but I called them and they set it to bridge instead...
[18:09] <bewest> JuJuBee: you should list the current rules to confirm they are what you expect
[18:10] <urban120> XLV do mount my system root i have /boot on sda3 and /root on sda5
[18:11] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, you could have done ifconfig to find the new gateway IP ,and the device IP
[18:11] <XLV> urban120, idk your system's config.. you got two different linux installs in there?
[18:12] <urban120> yes thats why its broken
[18:12] <ikonia> JuJuBee: that doesn't sound like your firewall
[18:12] <ikonia> JuJuBee: that just sounds like your router is not port forwarding correctly
[18:13] <JuJuBee> I reset the firewall (iptables) to allow ALL traffic.  Same problem.
[18:13] <ikonia> JuJuBee: yes, it's not your firewall as I just said
[18:13] <JuJuBee> I cannot get to http://www.google.com (redirects to localhost) but I can get to https://www.google.com
[18:13] <ikonia> JuJuBee: its your router / forwarding
[18:14] <JuJuBee> ikonia: only thing between my server/firewall is the ISP modem
[18:14] <ikonia> JuJuBee: the server and firewall are not on the same machine ?
[18:14] <JuJuBee> between server and ISP
[18:14] <ikonia> nslookup www.google.com
[18:14] <JuJuBee> My mistake... between server/firewall and isp is the modem
[18:15] <ikonia> nannes: does it return valid IP addresses ?
[18:15] <eyfour>  /query Floodbot1
[18:15] <ikonia> oops
[18:15] <ikonia> JuJuBee: does it return valid IP addresses
[18:15] <JuJuBee> ikonia: yes
[18:15] <ikonia> JuJuBee: traceroute www.google.com
[18:16] <JuJuBee> tracing fine...
[18:16] <ikonia> JuJuBee: define fine
[18:16] <JuJuBee> got to hop 7 before no reply
[18:16] <ikonia> JuJuBee: does it reach the correct source
[18:17] <mitch-_> does anyone know how to help set the size of xterm for default??
[18:17] <ikonia> JuJuBee: you should not be getting "no replay"
[18:17] <ikonia> JuJuBee: the google machines do not block ICMP
[18:17] <JuJuBee> ikonia: hop 6...   6:  voip-phone.tvc-ip.com (66.109.38.42)                  23.950ms
[18:17] <JuJuBee> i can ping fine
[18:17] <minimalist> mitch-_, window size?
[18:17] <ikonia> JuJuBee: looks like your ISP is stopping that then
[18:17] <ikonia> JuJuBee: ok so you can resolve and get out right
[18:18] <JuJuBee> yes
[18:18] <ikonia> JuJuBee: so either a.) you have a proxy setup for your browser
[18:18] <JuJuBee> nope
[18:18] <ikonia> JuJuBee: b.) your modem/ISP is redirecting port 80
[18:18] <JuJuBee> But not all port 80, I just was able to http://www.ubuntu.com
[18:18] <JuJuBee> I am very confused...
[18:19] <ikonia> JuJuBee: still going to come down to a.) proxy b.) ISP - you've flushed your iptables rules, so you know it's not them
[18:21] <XLV> urban120, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[18:21] <XLV> urban120, its quite easy.. read the guide
[18:21] <urban120> ok ty
[18:22] <JuJuBee> ikonia: to confuse things more... chromium and firefox redirect most traffic to localhost, links2 and konqueror do not... I checked and proxy is off on all browsers.
[18:22] <ikonia> JuJuBee: sounds like system proxy is set
[18:22] <ikonia> if only some browsers are picking it up
[18:22] <daftykins> or a DNS fail
[18:22] <ikonia> nah, because then all browsers and traceroute / nslookup would fail
[18:22] <JuJuBee> ikonia:  if system, then why can konqueror get out fine.
[18:22] <JuJuBee> I will go check...
[18:22] <ikonia> JuJuBee:......why not ?
[18:23] <dazzastyle1888> hey im on an ubuntu live cd trying to wipe a macbook hard drive but in gparted the hard drive doesnt show is there something i need to do first
[18:23] <bewest> mitch-_: yes
[18:23] <minimalist> dazzastyle1888, use dban
[18:23] <Jordan_U> dazzastyle1888: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and of "dmesg".
[18:24] <dazzastyle1888> minimalist: whats dban
[18:24] <dazzastyle1888> Jordan_U: ok
[18:24] <bewest> mitch-_: for xterm, you need to modify Xresources, specifically for default fontsize: https://github.com/bewest/homeware/blob/master/dotfiles/dot.Xresources#L9-L20
[18:24] <minimalist> its a bootable image that will safely wipe disks ..
[18:25] <minimalist> dazzastyle1888,  its a bootable image that will safely wipe disks ..
[18:25] <dazzastyle1888> ok this is sudo parted -l
[18:25] <dazzastyle1888> http://pastebin.com/8K5m9cuS
[18:26] <dazzastyle1888> Jordan_U: ^
[18:27] <dazzastyle1888> Jordan_U: and dmesg http://pastebin.com/zjy2YXzX
[18:28] <JuJuBee> ikonia: under system settings, proxy set to connect to internet directly, same as all browsers.
[18:29] <dazzastyle1888> Jordan_U: any ideas ?
[18:29] <dazzastyle1888> minimalist: did you see the pastebin ? any ideas
[18:29] <elijah> Hey guys, just installed latest updates for today, not sure what they were though and my sound stopped working, even the system test sound in sound settings. How do I troubleshoot?
[18:29] <elijah> 13.04
[18:30] <ikonia> JuJuBee: enable headers in firefox, see where it's going and why
[18:30] <Jesse-> can anyone direct me to a guide on how to get league of legends runing on ubuntu 13.04?
[18:30] <elijah> rebooted a few times but still no sound
[18:30] <lag> bug #1198319
[18:30] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, is there a "no proxy" setting , if so try that
[18:32] <map> hey y'all
[18:34] <dazzastyle1888> anyone ?
[18:34] <Orpheon> Hello, I'm on a 12.04 ubuntu, and the unity dash button/trash/show desktop color chosen because of my background isn't very good. Any way to manually set it?
[18:34] <map> anyone what dazzastyle1888
[18:34] <dazzastyle1888> Jordan_U: ???
[18:34] <map> aha ok
[18:35] <map> just reading up
[18:35] <p0wn3d> I'm having a problem where my right click on menu items just flashs by and does not give me an option to select anything
[18:35] <bewest> so in raring, it seems any usb device goes through xhci_hcd modue
[18:36] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, get ultimate boot cd, and use some hdd shredder/cleaner it has in there
[18:36] <bewest> but when I plug in my older usb device, I used to be able to issue modprobe usbserial vendor=0x1111 product=0x2222 and get a ttyUSBx
[18:36] <bewest> now udev doesn't even trigger anything when I plug in this device
[18:36] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html
[18:36] <bewest> instead dmesg has some entries saying xhci_hcd cannot enumerate port and gives up
[18:37] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: cheers ill check that out
[18:37] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/index.html you want to look into the /HDD/Disk Wiping section
[18:37] <map> couldnt he erase partition with fdisk
[18:37] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: just reading i might need hfsutils installed in ubuntu
[18:37] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, not for a hdd shredder, it does it in sectors level
[18:38] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, so access to the actual filesystem isnt really needed
[18:38] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: no no i just mean to read the drive in ubuntu
[18:38] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, you want to read the drive or erase it?
[18:38] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: erase it then put it back in the macbook and reinstall OSX
[18:38] <XLV> ok.. then use one of the tools in the ubcd
[18:39] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: ok thanks
[18:39] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, also, that doesnt even need a shredder
[18:39] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, cfdisk
[18:39] <XLV> or fdisk
[18:39] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: whats that
[18:39] <dazzastyle1888> how do i do it
[18:39] <XLV> in linux cli
[18:39] <dazzastyle1888> in terminal
[18:39] <XLV> find the partition osx is, and delete it
[18:39] <XLV> ubcd can do it too
[18:40] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: thats the thing though i cant see the disk in ubuntu live cd
[18:40] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: it doesnt show in my bios either
[18:40] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, the hdd doesnt show in bios?
[18:40] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: no
[18:40] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, was it a hdd with onboard encryption?
[18:40] <XLV> those need a special util from the hdd manuf to erase them
[18:41] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: i think so yes
[18:41] <JuJuBee> There is no "no proxy" only connect directly to internet
[18:41] <XLV> well, go to hdd manuf's site and download the util to erase it
[18:41] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: toshiba i think it is
[18:42] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: like these ? http://storage.toshiba.com/storage-services-support/warranty-support/software-utilities
[18:42] <usr13> XLV: I think he is saying that the *partition* is not listed in the bios, (which would be true, only hdd's are listed in bios, not partitions).
[18:42] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, are you using network manager?
[18:42] <dazzastyle1888> usr13: even the drive is not listed in bios
[18:42] <dazzastyle1888> user82: nor in windows disk manager nor in gparted on ubvuntu 12.04 live cd
[18:43] <lataku> offtopic, anyone know how to set screen to utf8 in solaris?
[18:43] <lataku> screen -U not working :(
[18:43] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, well, if its not the encryption, then the hdd has problem
[18:43] <XLV> it should show in bios
[18:43] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: the hard drive was working in the macbook i think it might be the encryption
[18:43] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: so the toshiba utility should solve that ?
[18:44] <mitch-_> bewest, so i found the best way is to add -geometry 90x45 right after "xterm" in the gns3 terminal settings window
[18:44] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, cant find anything related to toshiba's site
[18:44] <dazzastyle1888> http://storage.toshiba.com/storage-services-support/warranty-support/software-utilities
[18:44] <dazzastyle1888> thats what ive found
[18:44] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, yeah, there.. has nothing related
[18:44] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: DOS Diagnostic Tool Ver. 7.0 (For IDE/ATA/SATA Hard Drives)
[18:44] <Quest> how to know the size of each dir. is there a way for me to find out whcih dirs are taking more space. some sort of bar or stats?
[18:44] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, thats diagnostic, not erase
[18:44] <usr13> dazzastyle1888: Ok, I stand corrected.
[18:44] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, that would tell you if the hdd is healthy or not
[18:44] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: but wouldnt it be able to erase
[18:45] <XLV> nope
[18:45] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: right got ya
[18:45] <InterWeb> How do I can install java 7 on ubuntu ?
[18:45] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: so will ultimate live cd erase it
[18:45] <dazzastyle1888> ultimate boot cd
[18:45] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, well problem is it doesnt even appear in bios
[18:45] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, if ubcd can see it it will erase it
[18:45] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: maybe i havent connected it properly ?
[18:46] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, could be , but how many ways are there to connect a sata hdd
[18:46] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj: no, /etc/network/interfaces
[18:46] <XLV> unless some sata data or power cable is problematic
[18:46] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: true does it need power going into it though
[18:46] <dazzastyle1888> as the power adapters dont seem to fit anywhere
[18:46] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, try other data and power cable  and different sata port
[18:46] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: all thats connected is sata cable
[18:46] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: the power plug doesnt fit on it its 2.5inch hdd
[18:46] <JuJuBee> I loaded live headers and when I enter a url like http://www.google.com the live headers window only shows the request for https://www.q3ait.org which is the domain pointing to this box
[18:47] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, then its not powered.. it uses mini sata
[18:47] <XLV> thats why its not shown in bios
[18:47] <XLV> its not on
[18:47] <iggy19> I am looking to set up a machine which has two classes of user accounts, one which is sftp only and one which is ssh and sftp.  The sftp users I want to be able to log in via password auth or public key auth, but the ssh users I want to only be able to log in via public key auth.  Is there a way to achieve this?
[18:47] <InterWeb> Can anyone help ?
[18:48] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: so what do i do
[18:48] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: its in sata port 4 if that makes a difference
[18:48] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, http://www.satacables.com/micro_sata_cables.html
[18:48] <ikonia> JuJuBee why would it go to that URL
[18:49] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, you need the adapter cable from normal sata data and power to mini sata
[18:49] <JuJuBee> ikonia: don't know.  This server hosts that url
[18:49] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: yeah that looks right
[18:49] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: cheers
[18:49] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, http://www.amazon.com/Connectland-CL-CAB40022-SATA-Mini-Cable/dp/B003NE5IUC
[18:49] <ikonia> JuJuBee: that's doing a http to httpd redirect though
[18:49] <ikonia> https sorry
[18:49] <XLV> dazzastyle1888, http://www.amazon.com/Syba-Cable-Molex-Adapter-CL-CAB40042/dp/B005BCNAWM
[18:50] <JuJuBee> but not for all requests... that is what really confuses me
[18:50] <XLV> the previous one was unavailable
[18:50] <ikonia> JuJuBee: is it locked per site, or random requests, eg: some sites always fail, or some sites work, then fail, then work
[18:50] <JuJuBee> seems to be locked
[18:50] <ikonia> JuJuBee: so it's locked to certain sites working/failing
[18:50] <JuJuBee> yes
[18:51] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, have you set your nameserver , default gateway, domain gateway etc in ,  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base ? because it writes the /etc/resolv.conf file . which you need to connect
[18:51] <ikonia> JuJuBee: that's to be either a proxy or a device further down the network redirecting you, as there is a re-write rule happening there, not just a wrong ip
[18:52] <ikonia> JuJuBee: it's doing http->https - that's something doing a redirect
[18:52] <usr13> !java | InterWeb
[18:52] <ikonia> (or rewrite)
[18:52] <dv__> any cool application for new user ?
[18:53] <usr13> dv__: lots
[18:53] <dv__> what am i looking for ?
[18:54] <Ubuntivity> Hello
[18:54] <JuJuBee> ikonia: /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d doesn't exist
[18:54] <minimalist> Ubuntivity, hi
[18:54] <usr13> dv__: We don't know, what *are* you looking for?
[18:55] <Ubuntivity> Is it possible to use a system-wide proxy to my internet connection?
[18:55] <dv__> online poker !!
[18:55] <usr13> dv__: "Cool" is a pretty subjective term, you would need to qualify.
[18:55] <JuJuBee> ikonia: /etc/resolv.conf does exist and gets populated on startup
[18:55] <JuJuBee> nameservers are set to my ISP currently
[18:55] <usr13> dv__: Like:  http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/  ?
[18:56]  * Ubuntivity wonders if some people are talking about "poker" here?!!
[18:56] <minimalist> JuJuBee,  use opendns servers ..
[18:56] <minimalist> JuJuBee, iso dns servers usually suck
[18:56] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: u about
[18:57] <minimalist> JuJuBee, *isp
[18:57] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: turns out im a tad bit of a noob
[18:57] <dazzastyle1888> XLV: scrap that im a HUGE FUCKING N0000000000000000b
[18:57] <IdleOne> !language | dazzastyle1888
[18:58] <dazzastyle1888> ubottu: ull understand when you hear what i done
[18:58] <JuJuBee> minimalist: I am aware of that, thanks anyway
[18:58] <dazzastyle1888> so so that macbook hard drive yeah
[18:58] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, what ubuntu version are you ri=unning ?
[18:58] <minimalist> ubottu, it seems there are quite some F wors in kernel comments too :P
[18:58] <dazzastyle1888> turns out it wasnt powered cause i thought none of the power connectors on my PC fitted it
[18:59] <dazzastyle1888> when i was taking the disk out it just so happens i spotted my PSU has one of the cables for 2.5inch devices for power : (
[18:59] <dazzastyle1888> walla i can now see the drive lol
[18:59] <ikonia> JuJuBee: I don't think it's a dns problem
[18:59] <dazzastyle1888> such a noob
[19:00] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, yeah your router/modem is probly set to auto dns on your ISP
[19:00] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj: 10.04 LTS
[19:01] <usr13> !10.04 | JuJuBee
[19:01] <bayro> pol
[19:01] <usr13> JuJuBee: So your problem is internet connection?
[19:01] <BluesKaj> no wonder  JuJuBee . ok then make sure your /etc/resolv.conf settings are correct
[19:02] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj: right, my external interface has to be set to dhcp (according to my isp) in order to get the reservation properly.
[19:02] <BluesKaj> yeah , that's set in your interfaces file, JuJuBee
[19:02] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj: they seem to be, using the nameservers of my isp and domain and search are my isp
[19:03] <JuJuBee> usr13: not sure, I can get to some sites, but not all...
[19:03] <usr13> JuJuBee:  ifconfig  |grep Bcast  #Do you see your gateway router's IP after "inet addr:"?
[19:04] <usr13> JuJuBee:  ifconfig  |grep Bcast  #Do you see your IP address within your gateway router's subnet after "inet addr:"?
[19:04] <usr13> ... is what I meant to say the first time  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[19:04] <JuJuBee> usr13 yes
[19:05] <map> damn
[19:05] <usr13> JuJuBee: route -n   #Do you see your gateway router's IP there?  Or what do you see.
[19:05] <JuJuBee> I can use links2 and get to google.com fine, but not firefox
[19:05] <map> i installed ubuntu 13.04 and my rtlink2800 worked during setup boot into OS and now it doesn't work =[ dunno what to do
[19:05] <JuJuBee> usr13: yes
[19:05] <map> ralink sorry
[19:06] <usr13> JuJuBee: grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf   #What IP do you see there?  (Is it a valid nameserver.)
[19:06] <green_geeky_dude> <- reckons the ISP has balked on it's DNS - might want to try setting your router to use OpenDNS (just my 2 pennies)
[19:06] <Ubuntivity> They say I shouldn't repeat my question, but I just asked if it is possible to use a system-wide proxy on ubuntu?
[19:06] <JuJuBee> usr13: I see the isp nameserver and they are valid
[19:07] <clue_h> Ubuntivity, you can in settings,network
[19:07] <JuJuBee> I may try to boot from a live CD / flash and test, and maybe try to upgrade again.  Last fall I tried to upgrade to 12.04 but had trouble seeing my NIC's
[19:07] <Ubuntivity> Thanks clue_h, I didn't have a clue :)
[19:07] <usr13> JuJuBee: One entry or two?
[19:07] <JuJuBee> usr13: two
[19:08] <usr13> JuJuBee: What is the first one?
[19:08] <JuJuBee> 24.148.96.1
[19:08] <clue_h> Ubuntivity, its just chilling there out of sight in the settings section lol then its network proxy
[19:08] <Ubuntivity> clue_h: Will that proxy apply to all the programs used? Such as the commandline weechat?
[19:08] <usr13> JuJuBee: So what sites can you not get to?  (Give us an example.)
[19:09] <JuJuBee> http://www.google.cmo
[19:09] <JuJuBee> *com
[19:09] <JuJuBee> but I can get to https://www.google.com
[19:09] <clue_h> Ubuntivity, it should do yes
[19:09] <usr13> JuJuBee: host google.com  #What does that tell you?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, most can , which url doesn't load ?
[19:10] <Ubuntivity> Thanks clue_h :)  Does anybody know good proxies for hiding one's trails? being totally anonymous?
[19:10] <usr13> JuJuBee: host google.com  |pastebinit   #Show us the resulting URL.
[19:11] <JuJuBee> problem is I can use links2 and get to www.google.com
[19:11] <thurstylark> I'm having trouble establishing a pptp tunnel. I'm new to vpn, so any help would be awesome.
[19:11] <holstein> !vpn | thurstylark this is where i started
[19:12] <onca> anyone familiar with boxes and virtualmachine, which is better ?
[19:12] <thurstylark> holstein: Thanks!
[19:12] <usr13> JuJuBee: Could it be your problem is with firefox?
[19:12] <JuJuBee> tired several browsers
[19:13] <holstein> JuJuBee: and dns servers?
[19:13] <JuJuBee> I have to get going.  Thanks to all for support.  I will be back to this on Tuesday...
[19:13] <usr13> JuJuBee: "I can use links2 and get to www.google.com"  Can you elaborate on that just a bit?
[19:13] <usr13> JuJuBee: Ok
[19:13] <JuJuBee> links2 is a command line text browser....
[19:13] <holstein> yeah.. i would load up a live CD, and when it works fine, JuJuBee , you'll know its something to do with your install
[19:14] <JuJuBee> I do not discount that it is a configuration issue....
[19:14] <thurstylark> holstein: is there a server specific version of this kind of page? I think I mainly need to troubleshoot my server...
[19:14] <JuJuBee> Thanks for the help to all....
[19:14] <JuJuBee> Gotta run
[19:15] <ominomi> :)
[19:15] <usr13> JuJuBee: That is what I thought.  I'm not sure why one browser will go to sites that another will not. (Ive yet to encounter such a problem unless you have one set to use a proxy or some other limitation particular to the browser itself).
[19:15] <Captain_Proton> anyone know the channel name for ubuntu touch
[19:15] <holstein> thurstylark: i troubleshooted locally.. then through the firewall with my phone
[19:15] <holstein> !touch | Captain_Proton
[19:15] <Captain_Proton> thnaks
[19:15] <BluesKaj> still think it's his ISPdns that's mucked up
[19:16] <holstein> BluesKaj: could be..
[19:16] <green_geeky_dude> It's his ISP causing the problem since I did a scan he us running an ftp, web site and a mysql database all open to the net
[19:16] <usr13> holstein: BluesKaj: Why would he be able to go to a site with one browser and not another, if it is the ISP?
[19:17] <holstein> maybe in the config, links is looking elsewhere for dns by default..
[19:17] <BluesKaj> the ISP may have filters or it's a vpn type setup ,not sure
[19:17] <usr13> green_geeky_dude: You did a port scan on his IP address?
[19:17] <green_geeky_dude> yup
[19:18] <usr13> green_geeky_dude: Those services may belong to his ISP and not him.
[19:18] <green_geeky_dude> somehow after seeing what I saw (now closed) I doubt it
[19:20] <Captain_Proton> Anyone in here play left 4 dead on linux? If so did they fix the mic problem in the game yet?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> green_geeky_dude, did you do a traceroute then scan the last IP ?
[19:20] <usr13> green_geeky_dude: Ok, you're probably right.  (And that may be why he left, because he saw that someone was doing port scans against his IP.)  ;)
[19:20] <holstein> Captain_Proton: i would ask the game dev's for support.. is it a steam game?
[19:20] <holstein> !steam | Captain_Proton if so
[19:20] <green_geeky_dude> Blues - full sweep
[19:21] <Captain_Proton> k thanks
[19:21] <green_geeky_dude> usr13 could well be - but I feel his ISP is causing him problems due to what he is doing together with a few faults on his own settings - I hope he sorts it out though
[19:21] <thurstylark> can anyone explain to me the difference between localip and remoteip options as listed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer/ ?
[19:22] <j__> hi... my data manger always opens in the top left... where can I change that into mid?
[19:22] <usr13> green_geeky_dude: I guess it's possible but do not see why he can use one browser and get to a site and not another. (Although the one he said he could get to the site with was a text only browser, right?)
[19:22] <holstein> thurstylark: whats the question?
[19:23] <holstein> usr13: the one that could access was links
[19:23] <holstein> !info links2
[19:23] <green_geeky_dude> usr13 - without knowing his full setup it would be hard for any of us to answer that - but I would love to try and figure out the puzzle
[19:24] <OerHeks> thurstylark, remote ip would be your (outside)IP from your ISP, lokal IP is your IP in your network 192.168.x.x
[19:24] <OerHeks> or 10.x.x.x
[19:24] <thurstylark> holstein: I'm not quite understanding what each option asigns ips to what. I'm also confused as to what is local and what is remote.
[19:25] <thurstylark> OerHeks: so, I would have to know my public IP?
[19:25] <usr13> green_geeky_dude: Me too.  BTW, I've use links, but not links2.  Is links2 also text only?
[19:25] <holstein> thurstylark: you can google "whats my ip"
[19:25] <holstein> thurstylark: you would need to know that, to connect back in.. and forward ports.. or, as i had setup, something like dyndns to forward a name to the ip
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> links2 - Web browser running in both graphics and text mode
[19:25] <green_geeky_dude> I haven't used links2 - but from what I just read YES it's the same just a few more bells and whistles
[19:26] <OerHeks> thurstylark, yes, as lokal ip is only available from within your network, but you can make it reachable by port forwarding.
[19:26] <sanav> hello friends ! I'm final year student in B.tech .I want to do certification in pen-testing but i'm confused which to choose .Some says to choose (ISC)2 and some says choose GPEN .(ISC)2 is very costly for me .Please guide me
[19:26] <usr13> green_geeky_dude: Just looked at Wikipedia and see, "Links is an open source text and graphic web browser"  (I'm guessing links2 does graphics.)
[19:26] <holstein> i made my vpn give out addresses outside the DHCP range of the router.. i put the vpn in the DMZ of the router
[19:27] <holstein> you dont have to put it in the DMZ..
[19:27] <green_geeky_dude> usr13 - yup that's what have read
[19:28] <usr13> green_geeky_dude: Ok.  Well, I never used links much, only lynx
[19:28] <green_geeky_dude> good choice
[19:28] <usr13> green_geeky_dude: Oh yea, I use it almost every day.
[19:29] <green_geeky_dude> haven't used it in a while
[19:34] <sanav> My Question off-topic but i really need some guideline !.I want to do certification in pen-testing but i'm confused which to choose .Some says to choose (ISC)2 and some says choose GPEN .(ISC)2 is very costly for me .Please guide me or suggest me some good alternative
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> sanav:  if its OT - then its OT. theres the OT channel.
[19:34] <bazhang> !ot | sanav
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> sanav:  and perhaps in #linux if its linux related
[19:34] <DJones> sanav: Maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux This channel only deals with Ubuntu support issues
[19:35] <sanav> ok
[19:35] <ejv> what is this: http://dpaste.com/1361125/ and how do I fix it? running 12.0.4 lts
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> ejv:  you could have pasted one of the error lines. :) and save us time
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> Your HD is reporting some bad info it seems.
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> I wouldent be trusting that hard drive.
[19:36] <ejv> well i know that part, but mdadm hasn't kicked the disk from the array
[19:36] <ejv> so is it an indicator of a bad port, flaky cable, bad connection
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> also seen bad controller chips on the hd..
[19:37] <holstein> ejv: i would plan for the worst
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> its amazeing HD's work as well as they do
[19:37] <ejv> well i don't need to really plan, if mdadm think it's bad it'll get kicked, then i'll replace it, but since it hasn't im wondering if the disk is actually in fact healthy
[19:39] <thurstylark> OerHeks, holstein: The problem with that is that I have a dynamic ip from my isp. that is assigned directly to my router, and everything (including my server) is on it's local network. Say my router gives x.x.x.2-99 with dhcp, and any address I use will be in the 150-200 range. is localip the address of my server'
[19:39] <thurstylark> s nic?
[19:40] <map> hmm
[19:40] <ejv> if I translate ATA ID to device, it indicates it's /dev/sde, if I pull /dev/sde up in smart, i don't see any reallocated sectors or indicators of failure
[19:40] <holstein> thurstylark: i use dyndns to forward a name to my changable, dynamic IP.. i have an updater that goes and updates that IP automatically
[19:40] <map> can someone offer me some helps - i am on lubuntu 13.04 and using an ralink rt2800 - it doesn't work once OS is installed and in the OS but it works on live session..using driver rt2800pci? but that isnt in the OS once installed? please help!
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> !find rt2800pci
[19:41] <holstein> thurstylark: i put the server out in the DMZ.. but you can forward a port..
[19:41] <thurstylark> holstein: what do you use to do that?
[19:41] <holstein> thurstylark: as i said, it forwards a name.. a dyndns hostname to my servers ip address
[19:41] <map> oh thanks Dr_Willis i did google search but couldn't find so much
[19:42] <holstein> thurstylark: the public IP, that is dynamic and changable
[19:42] <map> so if i download that package to USB then install manually and modprobe rt2800ci it should work?
[19:42] <map> *rt2800pci even
[19:42] <anonee> ok, please help with this: i have pc1 connected to pc2 with an eth cable, I just wanna setup a simple connection between the two computers for faster file transfer, no need for internet connection sharing or anything, I'm trying 192.168.0.1, and gateway 0.0.0.0 but one of the computers won't save the connection like this... (the one with IP Address 192.168.0.2)
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> map:  its in the kernel drivers from what i just seen on this box. so should be part of the kernel
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> im on 13.10 but the location should be the same (well close) --> /lib/modules/3.11.0-3-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt2800pci.ko
[19:43] <Guest60928> hey room. i just installed ubuntu 13.04 and i'
[19:43] <Dr_Willis>  --> /lib/modules/YOURKERNELVERSION/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt2800pci.ko
[19:43] <map> hmm i'm a bit confused then sorry to be a pain - as i say it worked on live session saying it uses rt2800pci when i ran lspci -nnk - but live session nothing - if its included in the ernel does that mean I just need to do sudo modprobe rt2800pci ?
[19:43] <anonee> both computers are using ubuntu 12.04
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> !locate rt2800pci.ko
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> !find rt2800pci.ko
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> what kernel are you using exactly?
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> it should auto load. or try sudo modprobe rt2800pci
[19:45] <map> thanks for your help mate
[19:45] <map> using 3.8.0.19-generic uname-a says
[19:45] <map> so i need to upgrade
[19:45] <Guest60928> hey room. i just installed ubuntu 13.04 and im trying to use netflix-desktop but when i click on the desktop icon it said that ms true type font are not intalled correctly can ANYONE help me???
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> linux-image-extra-3.8.0-19-generic   should include it from what the bot just said.
[19:46] <map> oh
[19:46] <map> ahh yea sorry didn't see it
[19:46] <map> hmm
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> and your kernelis a bit outdated. theres newer ones released.    but check if that file is on the system via the locate command.
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> locate rt2800pci.ko
[19:47] <holstein> !netflix | Guest60928
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest60928  install ttf ms core fonts
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> !info mstcorefonts
[19:47] <Guest60928> MonkeyDust, how do i do that?\
[19:47] <holstein> those come with the meta-package restricted-extras
[19:48] <holstein> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> Guest60928  install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[19:49] <rkasta_> help
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> !details
[19:51] <Guest60928> MonkeyDust, when i apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer it the terminal says i already have the newest version???
[19:51] <rkasta_> where are you from
[19:52] <Ali_> hallo
[19:52] <Ali_> can you think how to solve my problem??
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> Ali_, Should we guess, or will you tell us?
[19:53] <Ali_> I need in neuroprogrammer on my ubuntu
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> !netflix | Guest60928 did you read this
[19:53] <BluesKaj> Ali_, we need to know your problem first
[19:53] <Guest60928> MonkeyDust, when i apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer it the terminal says i already have the newest version???
[19:54] <Ali_> when I use virtual windows on my system I have no sound and net
[19:54] <holstein> Guest60928: the error states, "not installed correctly".. you could try reading the requirements at the link, browsing for a bug there at where the link refrences bug support, or reinstalling the fonts package
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> Guest60928  a solution has been offered twice
[19:55] <holstein> Ali_: virtual windows?
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> Ali_, Appears to run in wine.
[19:55] <holstein> Ali_: you mean, when using windows inside some virtualization platform?
[19:55] <AdvoWork> i dont suppose anyone could offer some advice regarding libreoffice and calc, and images moving when looking at them on screen vs when printing(not staying in their cells)..
[19:55] <Guest60928> holstein, how do i reinstal it do i have to remove it first?
[19:55] <Ali_> ok i will try
[19:55] <Ali_> to wilee-nelee
[19:56] <holstein> Guest60928: thats one way.. i would just use the package manager you are comfortable using
[19:56] <Ali_> holstein - yep, when I use windows 7 on virtual machine
[19:57] <holstein> Ali_: i would look in the host settings and see that you are using virtual hardware windows supports.. i would look into installing the guest additions like tool (assuming you are using virtualbox, or there is such a tool for what virtualization you are using)
[19:58] <Ali_> how to show you it??
[19:58] <Ali_> give me your email
[19:59] <holstein> Ali_: elaborate as to what "it" is.. no volunteer is going to share their email with you here
[19:59] <holstein> !paste
[19:59] <Ali_> I will send to you screen photo
[19:59] <holstein> Ali_: you can share it, as stated above, in imagebin
[19:59] <holstein> Ali_: or, just state "im using virtualbox".. or "im using vmware"
[20:00] <Ali_> ok!
[20:00] <Ali_> good time!! thanks for conversation!!
[20:03] <neta501> i have a problem with installing ubuntu 12.04 allongside windows 7. i put the ubuntu on a bootable disk on key (don't have a cd rom). in the bios options menu i enable the UEFI (so i can boot from the usb stick), and i get a black screen witn 3 options (try without installing, install ubuntu, and chck for defacts). if i choose one of the options i get a black screen and nothing else. i can press 'e' to edit the options. i tried to add nomod
[20:03] <holstein> !dualboot
[20:07] <adsfd> http://www.dukascopy.com/tradercontest/?action=blog&trader=Grizzly
[20:11] <Extreminador> guys does any one know how can i forçe a dll in wine ?
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> Extreminador  better ask in #winehq
[20:13] <Extreminador> i did try to enter in wine but i was kicked automaticaly
[20:13] <Extreminador> thanks
[20:18] <brennan_> It appears that you still have not installed the MS true type fonts. You need to accept the license agreement and install these fonts for Netflix Desktop to work properly.
[20:18] <brennan_> ???
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> so.. accept it and install them?
[20:19] <AdvoWork> i dont suppose anyone could offer some advice regarding libreoffice and calc, and images moving when looking at them on screen vs when printing(not staying in their cells)..
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> tab key, and enter to accept the eula i recall
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  check out the winetricks tool and the wine forums perhaps.
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  and the channel is #wine-hq
[20:21] <esing> How do I install my usb microphone in ubuntu? I thought usb microphones should be detected automatically with the usb mic drivers being in the linux kernel, yet I can't see my usb mic in  alsamixer. There's just the  playback scale for the usb mic
[20:21] <Sabzykoo> i need someone experienced
[20:21] <Sabzykoo> ;(
[20:21] <Sabzykoo> im new to this
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> Sabzykoo:  we need details of the problem.
[20:21] <Sabzykoo> okay
[20:21] <Sabzykoo> thats simple
[20:21] <Sabzykoo> hm, i dont know nothing lol
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> and theres no need to hit enter every 3 words..  ..
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Sabzykoo
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> you need some one 'experienced' because you 'know nothing' ....
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> start with the ubuntu manual, and then ask some actual support questions if stuff is unclear.
[20:23] <Sabzykoo> well, i learned some commands and stuff, but i really need a good tutorial, i saw the 'man' command but it doesnt help really
[20:23] <Sabzykoo> its my first day with ubuntu
[20:23] <brennan_> It appears that you still have not installed the MS true type fonts. You need to accept the license agreement and install these fonts for Netflix Desktop to work properly.????
[20:24] <Sabzykoo> and i find it difficult to download and install some certain programs
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> Sabzykoo:  theres 10000's of guides out there on all the diffent specific parts of linux.
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> Sabzykoo:  what exactly are you trying to install.
[20:24] <BluesKaj> Can anyone recall the name of the tool to create a custom live cd from your installed packages ?
[20:24] <osolus>   /j #linpeople
[20:24] <brennan_> can someone help me out
[20:25] <brennan_> ?
[20:25] <bazhang> BluesKaj, remastersys
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> brennan_:  you installed the   ttf-mscorefonts-installer   package yet?
[20:25] <bazhang> brennan_, tab to the ok and hit enter
[20:25] <BluesKaj> bazhang, thanks
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[20:25] <Sabzykoo> help brennan, ill come when i find somethin concrete
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> and then like we said earlier...  'tab and enter key' to move around to the ok button.
[20:26] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-manual.org/   <------- Sabzykoo here first
[20:26] <Lequtix> hi everyone!
[20:27] <Sabzykoo> hello
[20:27] <brennan_> yes i have installed ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> and it ran and installed stuff after you selected 'ok' ?
[20:28] <brennan_> Dr_Willis, ^^
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> should of taken some time.
[20:28] <brennan_> Dr_Willis, i did it previously
[20:29] <Lequtix> whats the problem dr_willis
[20:31] <Lequtix> why not just install ubuntu-restricted-extras package.. that contains the fonts as well
[20:31] <Lequtix> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> that pulls in the same installer tool that does the same task.
[20:32] <Lequtix> i didn't hear what the problem was.. sorry i'm interfereing
[20:32] <esing> How do I configure my usb microphone in ubuntu?
[20:33] <Lequtix> when u plug in the microphone, do a dmesg to see if the system recognizes it
[20:33] <Fellows> I also need a bit of help
[20:34] <esing> (I set the usb mic to default in kmix, and pulled the audio control bar to maximum, but still audacity or arecord isn't able to record anything from it)
[20:34] <Lequtix> i'm more of a server guy..  mostly headless server installs
[20:34] <Lequtix> but ask the question.. i'll help if i can
[20:34] <Fellows> I've installed unity and barley changed anything... Now I can't type in terminal
[20:35] <Lequtix> isn't unity installed by default in ubuntu?
[20:35] <Lequtix> i think it takes effort to remove it
[20:35] <Fellows> no i had to install it
[20:35] <Fellows> but when I type in terminal nothing happens
[20:35] <Lequtix> you aren't using ubuntu?
[20:35] <Fellows> not at the moment
[20:36] <Lequtix> oh ok
[20:36] <Fellows> I can't type in terminal therefore i can't use weechat
[20:36] <Fellows> is there a way to reset everything
[20:36] <Lequtix> when you say you can't type in terminal, are you saying that the terminal opens but the cursor doesn't move?  or does it mean you can't actually launch a terminal
[20:37] <Lequtix> try gnome-terminal
[20:37] <Fellows> i am able to launch it
[20:37] <Fellows> ,but can't get words
[20:38] <Lequtix> is the font color the same as the background color?
[20:38] <Lequtix> in preferences?
[20:38] <Fellows> no
[20:38] <Fellows> everything got messed up when installing unity
[20:38] <Fellows> which wasn't on there before
[20:38] <Lequtix> why not backup your shit and install 13.04 lol..
[20:38] <BluesKaj> Lequtix, do you see a prompt
[20:38] <Lequtix> comes with unity and everything works
[20:39] <Lequtix> its Fellows with the issue BluesKaj
[20:39] <BluesKaj> oops sorry , it's been a long day Lequtix
[20:39] <Lequtix> :D
[20:39] <Lequtix> I don't know anyone who wants unity without ubuntu
[20:39] <BluesKaj> guess it's time to take a break from this anyway
[20:39] <Lequtix> you either like ubuntu for unity or you hate unity and use fedora 19
[20:40] <Fellows> i hate it because i can't even type in terminal
[20:40] <Fellows> and everything looks ugly now
[20:40] <Lequtix> lol..  i've never had the issue you are describing.. because if i want unity i install ubuntu
[20:41] <Lequtix> so does everytthing work other than the terminal windows?
[20:42] <mosh> The only problem I've ever had with Unity is it doing random crap because of my gfx
[20:42] <Lequtix> he has it installed on a distro other than ubuntu
[20:42] <Fellows> no it's ubunut
[20:42] <Lequtix> which version?
[20:43] <Fellows> 12.04
[20:43] <mosh> What graphics card are you using?
[20:43] <Lequtix> well... if i had your issue..  i would backup my .gconf .gconfd .gnome .gnome2  folders into a bak folder.. then delete them.. reboot
[20:43] <Lequtix> let ubuntu recreate them
[20:43] <Lequtix> if that fixes it great.. if not you can go back to your old ones
[20:44] <Lequtix> first place i'd start
[20:45] <Fellows> huh
[20:45] <Fellows> things were going smoothly until I installed unity
[20:45] <Fellows> which made things ugly
[20:45] <Lequtix> backup your config files for gnome and compiz
[20:45] <Lequtix> then delete them
[20:45] <Lequtix> log out and back in
[20:45] <Fellows> ok
[20:45] <jerome_> Hello
[20:45] <Lequtix> see if that fixes anything
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Fellows  install something else, logout, switch, login
[20:46] <Lequtix> .gconf .gconfd .gnome .gnome2
[20:46] <Lequtix> those are the ones u wanna kill
[20:46] <Lequtix> it could also have something to do with compiz
[20:46] <DammitJim> is there a way to setup an smtp server to only send emails for a specific domain?
[20:47] <Lequtix> yes dammitjim
[20:47] <DammitJim> like only emails that are @mycompany.com
[20:47] <DammitJim> is that a configuration on exim Lequtix ?
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> DammitJim  ubuntu server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[20:47] <Lequtix> if you install exim4 then use dpkg-reconfigure exim4
[20:47] <Lequtix> it walks you through it
[20:47] <DammitJim> yeah, I remember seeing something for source addresses, but wasn't sure about destinations
[20:47] <Lequtix> yea it's all in there
[20:47] <DammitJim> let me test it. And you are right, MonkeyDust ... I need to go to ubuntu-server
[20:47] <DammitJim> thanks
[20:48] <Lequtix> if you turn off relaying it will only accept for it's domain
[20:48] <Lequtix> just configure it to relay for NO address ranges
[20:50] <jerome_> I have a nvidia graphics card and the proprietary driver, two VGA outputs. I want to configure my PC to only one machine, I can have two uses. On the first screen: PC on a second screen Mediacenter.
[20:51] <usr13> jerome_: You should have a GUI configuration menu for it.
[20:51] <marcoo> hi, i'm having weird crashes with chromium
[20:52] <Lequtix> try disabling compiz marcoo
[20:52] <usr13> marcoo: Use firefox
[20:52] <jerome_> I want to configure a xorg.conf file for the first screen keyboard + mouse. And on the second screen: Remote
[20:52] <marcoo> im using firefox now, but i miss chrome, usr13
[20:52] <[[thufir]]> to generate a thread dump I ran kill -QUIT on the java process.  what's a better or easier way to get the thread dump?  ctrl-C or something
[20:52] <marcoo> what is compiz, Lequitix?
[20:52] <Lequtix> hahaha i thought you were talking about the game chromium-bsu
[20:52] <usr13> marcoo: I just don't see the attraction.
[20:53] <Lequtix> compiz is what gives you all the cool graphics effects
[20:53] <Lequtix> it also causes alot of problems with games
[20:53] <jerome_> But when I modify xorg.conf, the changes are not effective
[20:53] <usr13> jerome_: Why don't you just use the GUI?
[20:53] <marcoo> when i open gmail and facebok at the same time, chromium crashes. any ideas why?
[20:54] <loulan> because you touch yourself at night
[20:54] <mosh> marcoo; are you using chrome-browser, or chromium? Also, are you just having page crashes or the entire browser crash?
[20:54] <usr13> jerome_: ... even after restarting the X-server?
[20:54] <marcoo> chromium
[20:54] <marcoo> the entire os hangs, the mouse wouldnt even move
[20:55] <Lequtix> that seems like an X thing
[20:55] <marcoo> i cant even access terminals by crtl alt f2
[20:55] <Lequtix> i'm betting the OS doesn't hang.. just X
[20:55] <Lequtix> OH NVM then
[20:55] <usr13> marcoo: Could be problem with RAM
[20:55] <Lequtix> sounds like a hardware problem
[20:55] <usr13> marcoo: The whole system locks up?
[20:56] <Lequtix> only thing that causes the kernel to lock up is a hardware issue
[20:56] <genii> marcoo: Do all 3 keyboard lights blink on and off together?
[20:56] <marcoo> nah, how would two pages use the whole 2 gb of ram! in the other hand, chrome works perfectly on windows in this machine
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> see if you can ssh in when it hangs.
[20:56] <Lequtix> typically you can' always get the terminals ALT-F2 etc
[20:56] <marcoo> i dont have keyboard lights, this is a laptop
[20:56] <loulan> marcoo: he means that your ram is dead
[20:56] <genii> eg: all 3 lights blinking = kernel panic
[20:57] <Lequtix> what page are you going to..  i'll try it on mine
[20:57] <loulan> not that you don't have enough
[20:57] <jerome_> usr13: After rebooting, it's as if I had not written xorg.conf.
[20:57] <jerome_> But often instead of restarting, I run the command: startx -: 1
[20:57] <usr13> marcoo: Who is it that has the notion that you are running out of RAM?
[20:58] <Lequtix> when you install the proprietary drivers jerome_ doesn't it come with a utility to configure it from ?
[20:58] <usr13> marcoo: What I was suggesting is that you should test your RAM.
[20:59] <alexa> How big difference is there between intel i3 and i5?
[20:59] <usr13> Lequtix: I've asked jerome_ that question 3 times now.
[20:59] <bazhang> alexa, ask in ##hardware , not here
[20:59] <alexa> sorry
[21:00] <samir_> salut
[21:01] <samir_> hi
[21:02] <marcoo> i'm back
[21:03] <menoxz> Could anyone please direct me to a fix with audio conflict with skype, when I'm using skype, no other sound is working, only skype, and if I play music, skype sounds wont work
[21:04] <jerome_> usr13:The configuration utility works with xrandr. But xrandr can not set two separate screens. I want two screens, with each screen, a keyboard and a different mouse.
[21:05] <geomask> hi
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> jerome_:  so you are following some of the MultiSeatX guides like   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX  ?
[21:06] <Lequtix> jerome_ wants to make a mainframe
[21:06] <Lequtix> hahaha
[21:06] <Lequtix> the best way to do that is just to use xwindows through an ssh connection
[21:06] <Lequtix> on another pc
[21:06] <Lequtix> like a unix terminal server
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> Hes using 1 pc with 2 monitors, 2 keyboards and 2 mice. It should be doable. but may take some work.  I recall some other disrtos having better support for multiseatX.    Aparently LightDM has support for the feature in ubuntu.
[21:09] <jerome_> Dr_Willis:How did you do?
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> jerome_:  i havent. I just recall reading up on it. I also recall there being some usb-adaptors out that  let you have 4+ multi seat setups on the same pc via usb ports.
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> i recall that fedora had verygood spport for multi seat.
[21:10] <joepfarley> I'm having a problem with all of my browsers on Ubuntu, firefox and midori segmentation faults and chromium goes "Aw, Snap". Firefox and Chromium both do this so frequently that it's unusable. For firefox I've tried a new profile but it behaves the same. It works under safe mode so I disabled every single plugin and extension, but it crashes still without any extensions. I ran a memtest and it came out without errors. I assumed that it was
[21:10] <joepfarley>  a false positive so I tried both of my ram sticks indivicually but the problem contiued. I've done fresh installs of Ubuntu 12.04 and it happens then. I experience the problem under Unity, Gnome, and XFCE. I tried the recently released Elementary OS with their desktop environment and the problem continues. I even swapped out the hard drive and did a fresh install on that but I keep having the problem. I'm at a complete loss as to where to
[21:10] <joepfarley>  go next. It's driving me bonkers.
[21:10] <FloodBot1> joepfarley: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:11] <osolus> I wonder how I might enable virtualization in my system's kernel?
[21:11] <joepfarley> I'm sorry. that was a single instance of me typing. I didn't realize it would show up so long. I just wanted a suggestion as to where to go.
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> jerome_:  some neat info  (not ubuntu specific) -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_multiseat
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> How long did you run the memtest for jerome_ ?
[21:12] <atrus> joepfarley: there's not much that would affect all of those the same way. maybe a plugin that they're all getting access to? flash maybe?
[21:13] <mojtaba> Hi, I am new to linux. Could you please briefly let me know what are mir, wayland and x server?
[21:13] <mojtaba> What are these for?
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  they are the 'foundation' of the GUI.
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> all the apps draw stuff on top of the X foundation.
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> wikipedia may give some good background info
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> wikhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/
[21:14] <menoxz> Where should I ask for help?
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[21:15] <menoxz> Well my question is the same as I said before
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> thres always the forums and askubuntu.com if no one in here knows.
[21:16] <jerome_> Ok, thank you for the answers, I'll watch it. You should know that I am French and I translated everything from google translation. it takes me more time ... Thanks
[21:16] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: Thanks, but do you know somewhere else which explains better and simpler?
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  which part?
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> mir and wayland are replacements for the X server.
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> thats the core of it all.
[21:17] <mojtaba> for the mir and wayland.
[21:17] <menoxz> I'm trying to use Skype simultaneous with KSP, however I can only hear sound from one of them. If I answer on skype and then start KSP, only sound from skype. And vice versa
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> mir is a Ubuntu/Canoical creation, because they diddnet like wayland.
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland
[21:17] <menoxz> Also I don't have the "Pulse audio server" on skype
[21:21] <vtux> nice memory leak - empathy 4,3 GB :D
[21:29] <jerome_> See you later and thanks again. Merci beaucoup !
[21:31] <GH0> Is there any way to fix this error to recover files that are on the drive? http://pastebin.com/ZehseZi5 I cloned the drive and then fsck'ed it with fsck -yft ext4 /path, however the original drive is completely browseable, after fsck'ing this cloned drive is completely unable to mount. Is there a good way to go about fixing the error in the pastebin?
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> what command did you use to clone the drive?
[21:33] <GH0> Dr_Willis, I used "dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdf bs=4096 conv=notrunc,sync
[21:33] <GH0> "
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> if the original drive had read errors  - you might have wanted to use ddrescue
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> i tend to clone each partion into a file on a bigger hd. then try to recover from that file.
[21:35] <GH0> I had someone recommend me to use ddrescue, but, I am not very familiar with that command. Even the command he gave me had errors that wouldn't allow it to run properly.
[21:35] <GH0> Let me see if I still have it installed
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> one of ddrescues main features it it can (and you should use) a log file. so you can run it several times, and potentially recover bad  data from earlier attempts.
[21:36] <SubCool> Can somone help me with my dmesg, my Fingerprint scanner is going nuts
[21:36] <SubCool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6045767
[21:36] <SubCool> view the last 100 entries
[21:37] <mandrake-> Is it possible to get a icon for Wicd attached to the gnome top bar? extension of some sort?
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> mandrake-:  theres a list of indicator-applets on askubuntu.com that might include some that work with wicd
[21:38] <sethj> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available to be exact
[21:38] <GH0> Dr_Willis, is there a front end for ddrescue by any chance? Or only command line based?
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> GH0:  cant say ive ever noticed.. or needed a front end.
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> its fairly straightfoward in its basic ussage
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html#Examples
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> ddrescue /dev/sda1 /media/rescuedrive/sda1.image /media/rescuedrive/sda1.logfile
[21:40] <hotmedal_> how to I restart gnome when it gets stuck. No processes are using CPU, but it's completely unresponsive. All I have are the terminals.
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> hotmedal_:  one way 'sudo service lightdm restart' to totally restart x.
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> but that may be overkill
[21:42] <hotmedal_> Dr_Willis: can I do that from a different terminal than the one that is stuck. (I mean from ctrl+alt+F2)
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> hotmedal_  or try ctr-alt-t
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> hotmedal_  or try ctr-shift-t (correction)
[21:43] <mandrake-> hmmm pretty big list, will check it out
[21:44] <SubCool> is it really that simple of an issue that no one will respond?
[21:45] <daftykins> i'm more just shocked that anyone wants to try and make use of a fingerprint reader
[21:45] <hotmedal_> MonkeyDust: it does nothing
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> SubCool  or maybe no one knows the answer
[21:46] <SubCool> nah.. someone always knows the answer
[21:47] <hotmedal_> MonkeyDust: Dr_Willis how do I nuke x so that I get the terminal from a non-responsive gnome3
[21:48] <daftykins> are you unable to reach any of your TTYs?
[21:48] <hotmedal_> oh wait lightdm restart restarts x everywhere
[21:48] <hotmedal_> thanks everyone
[21:48] <hotmedal_> later
[21:48] <SubCool> How do i deteremine why this command: dpkg --set-selections > installed-software
[21:48] <SubCool>  --- results in crashing my package lock file and.. does not complete?
[21:49] <SubCool> i know im not being comprehensable with that statement -= but its confusing. it was working until i updated my system.
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> hotmedal_:  nukeing X would close out all the X session/apps and most lilkely go back to the login screen
[21:52] <hotmedal_> Dr_Willis: it's a little better than a reboot
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> If X is truely locked up. it may be the only way
[21:56] <r4d1x> hey, I've been having a problem with seahorse-tool, after a reboot, I can encrypt a few files, then I get a warning from glib and nothing happens.
[21:57] <SubCool> Hey Dr_Willis Any ides? your the resident genius
[21:59] <Oins> I i use "halt" or "shutdown -h" my PC does not switch off after shutdown, but if i use "shutdown -P" it works. Anyone a clue?
[22:01] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, If anything could you help me figure out how to phrase the google i would need for it?- repeated dmesg entry? installation? -
[22:02] <r4d1x> .part
[22:02] <lorundrik> @ Oins, you tried "shutdown -h now"? not sure if the "now" natters
[22:02] <daftykins> or -h 0
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  you got some hardware error message or somthing flooding dmesg?
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> Oins:  theres the 'poweroff' command also
[22:03] <Oins> yes, "shutdown -h now" makes the shutdown and HDD and Fan is switching off, but the pc is running at the end (power led is on). with "shutdown -P now" the power led is off (and the pc).
[22:03] <SubCool> yeah, the hardware device STMelectronics has installed like 200 times
[22:04] <SubCool> and now when i plug my iphone into my computer for power, it wont stop flashing the notifications section. it just keeps popping up and down.
[22:04] <Oins> same with the "halt" command. only shutdown -P and poweroff works
[22:04] <Oins> btw. 12.04 LTS server Version
[22:05] <lorundrik> Ye, hmm.
[22:06] <LittleT> Hi !
[22:06] <Oins> i mean, what's the different between halt and poweroff? I thought both are shutting down (completely) the system
[22:07] <lorundrik> you could use this, "shutdown -h -P now"
[22:07] <lorundrik> then it will halt and power off
[22:09] <daftykins> or you could just choose the correct command first
[22:09] <daftykins> :>
[22:09] <lorundrik> or that :)
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  if you want to  hide hardware error mesages theres /etc/sysctl.conf that has some settings near the top.
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> my phones suck so much power. the usb port will barely keep them charged. ;)
[22:10] <daftykins> yeah most use 1.2A+ chargers really
[22:10] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, well, i want to use the fingerprinter scanner, but it appears to be going nuts. Its STILL installing instances of it..
[22:11] <Oins> lorundrik: yes, but the problem is, that the most automatic scripts (like checkshutdown.sh, acpi/powerbtn.sh aso.) use the "shutdown -h ..." command. So I have to change all this scripts. And I fear, that after an update, I have to chance it again...
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> had a webcam on a laptop that was bad once. keept filling up dmesg logs with  finding/adding/so forth..
[22:11] <daftykins> SubCool: i could probably bypass that thing with a piece of sellotape and the last drink glass you held
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> i couldent even use the console for the clutter
[22:12] <SubCool> I think something is up with Kubuntu 13.04
[22:12] <Oins> And with my 9.xx Server version, it worked with the "shutdown -h" command :) I seems to be broken on 12.04
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis you can turn a lot of the android off, or at least the autostart
[22:12] <SubCool> i havent seen this many issues on kubuntu since 10.
[22:12] <Sach> In libreoffice calc, how do I find which numbers in a list add up to a specified total?
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> Sach, your not using the excel part?
[22:16] <Sach> wilee-nilee: yes, calc.
[22:16] <holstein> SubCool: did your fingerprint reader manufacturer promise you ubuntu/linux support?
[22:17] <holstein> SubCool: you might just want to try disabling problematic hardware in the bios if possible..
[22:18] <SubCool> holstein, hyaha- no i want to USE it.
[22:18] <LittleT> french ?
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> !fr
[22:20] <holstein> SubCool: i would be sure you let the hardware manufacturer know you are having issues in linux with it
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> Sach, try #libreofice
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> #libreoffice
[22:22] <super8> Hi there.
[22:22] <daftykins> hi
[22:22] <super8> When i check my computer details, the graphic card says unknown
[22:22] <super8> how can i fix it?
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis Do you know a android irc that has a tab complete, or keyboard?
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  most of them ive tried do. andchat does - its what i use all the time.
[22:24] <super8> please help me
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  theres also a android-weechat thing that connects to an  existing weechat instance that i was testing last week.
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> super8:  what does lspci say your video card is?
[22:24] <TLoFP1> How can I expand root partion without anyother boot media?
[22:25] <super8> Dr_Willis, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> TLoFP1:  you could always move some of the directoys on / to be on other partions and free up space on / that way. (thats not epanding / however)
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> Cool im on yaaic right now, using the hackers keyboard, just not smart enough to find the tab
[22:26] <TLoFP1> Dr_Willis: I have no other partitions, whose filesystem Linux plays well with
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i recall that keyboard having tab. or the phones 'search' button can work for tab/nick completion
[22:26] <TLoFP1> by well, I mean nativley
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> TLoFP1:  you are sort of stuck then. best way would be to backup your data. and try resizeing with gparted from a live cd/usb
[22:26] <TLoFP1> is there no way to schedule a resize for the next boot?
[22:26] <killagator> hello?
[22:26] <super8> Dr_Willis, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) this
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> TLoFP1:  not that ive ever seen.
[22:27] <TLoFP1> damn
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> super8:  so you got a fairly generic intel video chipset it seems
[22:27] <killagator> hi- how do i change admin in ubuntu 12.04lts?
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> killagator:  change it to what?
[22:27] <super8> Dr_Willis,  i checked on ubuntu forum, i did sudo apt-get install mesa-utils and then glxinfo | grep direct
[22:27] <super8> and i think it works.
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> super8:  in my experience . with intel hardware. you dont really need to mess with any drivers - they are all included by default
[22:28] <killagator> no, i have a user and i want to give him total admin rights
[22:28] <killagator> how to that please?
[22:28] <super8> but i still doubt that my graphic card is working well. while scrolling in a browser, its lagging.
[22:28] <super8> other than that, everything is working just fine.
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> Unless its a really new intel video card. Intel does have some  sort of driver-installer tool at some site.
[22:28] <SubCool> Ok- so - http://fcns.eu/2012/04/29/fingerprint-reader/ has helped me attempt usage. But- its own issues are preventing it from actual usage. WHY would this device continually re-(whatever) on dmesg.
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> killagator:  add them to the sudo group i belive.
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> killagator:  i bet askubuntu.com has details on how to do it for the differnt releases
[22:29] <killagator> yes - how do i do that? i have been using ubuntu all but 2 days
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> the users setting tool has a check box i belive is the easiest way
[22:29] <SubCool> i have to reboot to rid myself of this flashing notificaitons..
[22:29] <SubCool> but seriously if anyone would kinda mind helping me google this- ill do the work, i just dont know what the heck to do...
[22:29] <SubCool> it seems rare tobegin with
[22:29] <daftykins> SubCool: damage, bad connection, etc
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> user acoubnts -> change the account type to be admin
[22:30] <super8> no its not new Dr_Willis
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> Killagator, when you make a user with user you can make them a admin, otherwise ad them to sudo with visudo
[22:30] <super8> but why its lagging while srolling in the browser
[22:30] <killagator> and what code do i use exactly
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> super8:  could be its a rather low end card.  or theres flash playing in the browser sucking down stuff
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> Or change as i see  now
[22:30] <killagator> i am currently in the admin acct but would like to add a user i set up yesterday as an admin
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> killagator: System Settings -> user acounts -> change the account type to be admin
[22:31] <super8> okay thanks.
[22:31] <killagator> i don't see that option
[22:31] <killagator> only unlock
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> so unlock the tool.
[22:31] <killagator> i did
[22:31] <killagator> and now?
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> click on the user, to change. then then clck on their account type...
[22:32] <killagator> only options are  automatic login
[22:32] <killagator> on/off
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> account type:  has a pull down menu for me.
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> Standard/Administrator
[22:32] <killagator> not in 12.04lts
[22:32] <killagator> it seems
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> No idea. I dont use LTS.
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> thats why i suggested looking at askubuntu.com  they proberly have guides for each release as to how to do it.
[22:33] <killagator> ok i'll try that -thx
[22:35] <SubCool> k- im back.. - I think its just because im using Kubuntu 13. i may have to downgrade to 12.04
[22:35] <SubCool> i like a bunch of the plasma upgrades on 13, but- i havent seen this many issues on my hardware since 10 or 8
[22:35] <SubCool> 9*
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> Killagator look up visudo and adding a sudo user
[22:36] <duoi> just purchased a copy of ubuntu for $150 (25% off!), can't wait to install!
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2214/how-do-i-add-a-user-to-the-sudo-group
[22:37] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, you think maybe its a driver or kernel issue? - I was relaly hoping to be able to use it. It appears to work for other people
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> duoi, youknow its free
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  no idea. I havent bought a new laptop in 2+ years. and i dont even use my old ones any more
[22:38] <SubCool> yeah, ive been putting my old ones to use..
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> i alwys considered fingerprint readsers to be.. well..  a sad gimmic ;)
[22:38] <SubCool> but- i agree with, forgot who, who said it could be faulty hardware...
[22:38] <SubCool> hahah
[22:38] <SubCool> yeah.. but they are cool
[22:38] <SubCool> its nice to just swipe a finger and login
[22:38] <SubCool> and - according to the software ive been reading.. you can use it to prompt for sudo and such
[22:38] <SubCool> so it would be quite convientent
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> theres a 'webcam/face' featre to do it  login by giving the pc a dirty look.
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> and both are about as insecure as they come. ;)
[22:39] <duoi> wilee-nilee: but it was 25% off. i couldnt pass up on it.
[22:39] <daftykins> a saucy look for saucy salamander
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> duck sauce.
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> duoi, that makes no sense but is your money ;)
[22:45] <SubCool> yeah, i was never a fan of the Webcam thing..
[22:45] <romistrub> how do I configure dhcpd to listen on wlan0 interface
[22:45] <romistrub> ?
[22:46] <daftykins> romistrub: reconfigure it
[22:47] <romistrub> daftykins: thanks, how?
[22:47] <guest901632> hello
[22:48] <daftykins> romistrub: it'll be your first google result
[22:48] <romistrub> daftykins: haha I wish... apparently I can't Google
[22:48] <guest901632> does anyone here know if (and how) it would be possible to use proprietary GPU drivers in a live session?
[22:49] <daftykins> romistrub: i just got it :(
[22:49] <romistrub> so did I
[22:49] <romistrub> tried several solutions
[22:49] <romistrub> none worked
[22:49] <romistrub> I figured I had the variable name wrong...
[22:49] <FloodBot1> romistrub: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <daftykins> romistrub: /etc/dhcpd.conf - DHCPDARGS=interface
[22:49] <daftykins> ; after too
[22:49] <romistrub> daftykins: yup, that's what I'm reading now... I'll try it... tried a couple of other variable/directive names... so far nothing
[22:50] <duoi> question! how can i prevent firefox from going out of full screen when running flash on an external monitor?
[22:51] <DonkeyHotei> why does precise have newer nvidia drivers than raring?
[22:51] <romistrub> how do I restart dhcpd?
[22:51] <daftykins> romistrub: shouldn't be hard to confirm
[22:51] <daftykins> service dhcpd restart
[22:51] <romistrub> thx
[22:52] <daftykins> or /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart
[22:52] <romistrub> unrecognized service
[22:52] <daftykins> romistrub: it's quite obvious you haven't read a single thing before trying to set that up :)
[22:52] <romistrub> daftykins: I have terrible... er... "luck"... with searching one thing and getting results that were relevant 3 years ago, but location names and directives have changed
[22:53] <daftykins> yeah.
[22:54] <romistrub> still getting unrecognized service
[22:56] <daftykins> try dhcp3
[22:56] <tex_> here is the best ever ...
[22:56] <romistrub> daftykins: nope...
[22:57] <daftykins> and my second suggestion?
[22:57] <romistrub> dhp3 just tried it, nope
[22:57] <tex_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lk9x5UJJDNY
[22:57] <daftykins> romistrub: above. you're really not helping youself right now
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> tex_, That is off topic and no religious posts as well.
[22:58] <romistrub> I tried dhcp3, sorry, mistype
[22:59] <daftykins> ABOVE. THAT.
[22:59] <tex_> why not wilee-nilee?
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> tex_, read the coc of the channels you post on.
[22:59] <tex_> :)
[22:59] <tex_> chill out pal
[22:59] <tex_> ok
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> tex_, this channel has rules just like your spiritual system. ;)
[23:00] <romistrub> am I missing one? I tried all three...
[23:00] <tex_> but meanwhile take a taste of gods glory and feel the iternal life
[23:00] <daftykins> romistrub: is it dhcp3-server you installed?
[23:00] <tex_> bb
[23:00] <daftykins> what OS is this? version?
[23:01] <romistrub> daftykins: ubunto 12.04
[23:01] <romistrub> haha... ubuntu... wow
[23:01] <daftykins> ah we only support ubuntu in here :P
[23:01] <romistrub> hahaha
[23:01] <arandur> What is it that determines that my Ubuntu machineboots into tty7 automatically?
[23:01] <romistrub> I must be missing something...
[23:02] <arandur> Rather, how does my machine know to boot into tty7 as opposed to tty1?
[23:02] <daftykins> romistrub: "cd /etc/init.d" then hit d followed by tab, to see what's called dhcp in there
[23:02] <green_geeky_dude> The smurfs did it
[23:02] <arandur> And how do I change whatever setting that is?
[23:02] <daftykins> romistrub: or "ls /etc/init.d/dhcp*"
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> arandur, Why does it matter?
[23:03] <arandur> I would like to boot into tty1 automatically, without having to manually start my GUI on tty7.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> arandur, What is the end goal here, you would manually from tty1 as well
[23:03] <romistrub> daftykins: no such file or directory
[23:03] <arandur> To put it another way, I would like my GUI to start up automatically in teh background, on tty7, while I am deposited on tty1.
[23:03] <romistrub> I have a dhcpd.conf file open right now for editing... its location is /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
[23:04] <daftykins> romistrub: from which?
[23:04] <arandur> So far, all my searching has shown me how to boot into tty1, but sacrificing the automatic GUI start.
[23:04] <arandur> I would not like to make that sacrifice.
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> arandur, Never seen that option myself, probably possible, not sure why you would want that, and be sure to use nicks here.
[23:04] <daftykins> arandur: why is pressing one keyboard combo such a hardship at boot?
[23:04] <romistrub> daftykins: don't understand your question
[23:05] <SubCool> ok.. so- how do i disable the hardware device, there is no option for it in the bios
[23:05] <arandur> wille-nilee: Thanks; I forgot my irc manners.
[23:05] <daftykins> romistrub: well i gave two things and you gave me an error message, i don't know which
[23:05] <arandur> daftykins: It's not a hardship, but I was under the impression that Linux was build on the virtue of configurability.
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> lol no biggie, tab complete does it best.
[23:05] <arandur> daftykins: What are we, if we cannot optimize away keystrokes?
[23:05] <romistrub> sorry... for the ls/etc/init.d/dhcp*"
[23:05] <arandur> wilee-nilee: So it does! Again, thank you.
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> no prob arandur
[23:06] <daftykins> i never have sympathy for laziness
[23:06] <romistrub> arandur: speaking of which, how do I switch to chrome by pressing "0" on my numberpad from any client?
[23:06] <romistrub> daftykins: it's automation... it's what computers are built on...
[23:07] <daftykins> i disagree
[23:07] <arandur> daftykins: Shall I also compute logarithms by consulting the tables?
[23:07] <romistrub> daftykins: have you heard the term "don't repeat yourself"?
[23:07] <daftykins> that's apples to oranges
[23:07] <Flannel> arandur: I don't have the new grub, so I'm not entirely sure how it works now, but you should be able to configure which tty is the default (it used to be in grub configs, I imagine it's similar now)
[23:07] <arandur> daftykins: I don't mean to be rude, but I honestly don't understand the philosophy you're espousing. It is alien to my experience.
[23:07] <romistrub> it's not about being lazy, it's about automating repetitive tasks
[23:08] <daftykins> offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[23:08] <daftykins> arandur: perhaps you should move on
[23:08] <arandur> Flannel: It wasn't in /etc/default/grub; are there other grub configs?
[23:08] <romistrub> anyways... back to business
[23:09] <romistrub> still no luck with my dhcpd... doesn't want to listen on the right interface
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> arandur, gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub  is where you modify grub, and run a grub-update then.
[23:10] <daftykins> romistrub: is it dhcp3-server you installed? (for the second time)
[23:10] <arandur> wilee-nilee: Thanks, but there wasn't an option there to do what I'm looking for -- at least, not that I saw. I was able to boot to console, but I had to sacrifice the automatic GUI start.
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> arandur, this line is your mod place GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.disable=1 quiet splash"
[23:10] <romistrub> tried ls /etc/init.d/dhcp*
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> there is a text addition not sure the exact words arandur
[23:10] <arandur> wilee-nilee: The 'ipv6.disable=1' bit is new to me. I'll try that.
[23:11] <romistrub> daftykins: isc-dhcp-server
[23:11] <arandur> wilee-nilee: Thank you for your help.
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> arandur, Yeah I have no ipv6 so I stop at the door
[23:11] <romistrub> daftykins: but the instructions listend dhcpd.conf as its config file, so I'm assuming it's intimately related to dhcpd
[23:12] <daftykins> romistrub: run "dhcpd -t"
[23:12] <daftykins> any output?
[23:12] <daftykins> service isc-dhcp-server restart
[23:13] <romistrub> [..] 4.1-ESV-R4 [..]
[23:13] <romistrub> daftykins: see above
[23:13] <FunkyELF> does Ubuntu allow you to access your files from Android over the internet?
[23:13] <daftykins> if ubuntu one has an android client, maybe
[23:13] <daftykins> romistrub: amazing output!
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> FunkyELF, airdroid does with wireless
[23:14] <romistrub> daftykins: ?
[23:14] <daftykins> romistrub: anyway did the restart work?
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> FunkyELF, Using a brwoser
[23:14] <romistrub> nope
[23:15] <daftykins> what did it do...
[23:15] <FunkyELF> wilee-nilee: I'm not talking about Airdroid over the local network... I'm saying over the internet
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> FunkyELF, you can communicate with any computer over the internet.
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> if you know how
[23:16] <romistrub> daftykins: absolutely nothing...
[23:16] <daftykins> romistrub: pastebin
[23:16] <romistrub> daftykins: which command? the -t?
[23:17] <daftykins> both that and the restart maybe
[23:17] <FunkyELF> wilee-nilee: I'm asking what Ubuntu offers out of the box
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> nothing
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> you have to set it up
[23:18] <tar__> hi
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> FunkyELF, at the least type some commands, no click and run.
[23:19] <tar__> I dunno why I get connection to my router wifi but I don't get IP. When I run dhclient wlan0 It waits and does not get IP. I'm correctly associated with the AP. Any ideaS ?
[23:20] <daftykins> tar__: does a static IP work? sounds like a driver issue
[23:20] <tar__> daftykins: no no dhcp is enabled in the router
[23:20] <tar__> with iwconfig wlan0 I see that I'm associated
[23:20] <tar__> but dhclient does not give me an IP
[23:21] <daftykins> tar__: no a static IP on the wireless interface of your computer ¬_¬
[23:23] <tar__> ah yes I tried too but nothing
[23:23] <pelopopelopo> hello everybody! does anybody knows some program like S_CREEN for linux?
[23:23] <pelopopelopo> SCREEN
[23:23] <pelopopelopo> sorry
[23:23] <daftykins> tar__: so it couldn't ping your router after setting a static IP? sounds like a driver problem for sure
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> pelopopelopo, we have to assume what that word means. https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> millions of apps, be specific
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> pelopopelopo, here is a ubuntu link, is this what you want. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[23:27] <pelopopelopo> sorry, yes, som eprograms like this https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
[23:27] <pelopopelopo> i will be carefully next time
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> cool, it appears from the ubuntu link a name change since jaunty is all
[23:28] <lukasstr> hay there, i've some question on booting stuff (think grub 2.x in efi). when i start my pc i get some selection where i can select what os i want to boot - i want to disable this dialog, cause i've just ubuntu installed and dont want to select anything. how to do this?
[23:28] <delinquentme> Ubuntu util for running visual diffs on .sql files?
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> lukasstr, If you got that far with uefi I would consider yourself lucky. ;)
[23:30] <lukasstr> wilee-nilee: i've uefi-only in my bios, so it seems to work
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> lukasstr, Might be some tweaks, but not many are up on it at all here, the ubuntu forums has a mod who answers any uefi thread that is pretty knowledgeable.
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> might be easier with just a uefi installation rather tah a uefi computer.
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> than
[23:32] <daftykins> lukasstr: what's prompting? GRUB?
[23:33] <lukasstr> daftykins: ubuntu 13.4 and recovery
[23:33] <daftykins> but is it GRUB that's prompting for the OS choice?
[23:33] <lukasstr> think so - in header there is Grub-2.......
[23:34] <daftykins> maybe you've just got a timeout value and no default set?
[23:34] <lukasstr> dont know what you mean by this
[23:35] <lukasstr> want me to say* (sry for my english ;) )
[23:35] <daftykins> you might need to set a default OS and change the boot timeout to 0 to stop it asking you
[23:36] <DonkeyHotei> why does precise have newer nvidia drivers than raring?
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> DonkeyHotei, What is the proof of that?
[23:37] <DonkeyHotei> i apt-cache search and get 313 on raring
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> DonkeyHotei, Is there a PPA involved here?
[23:37] <DonkeyHotei> i'm running 319 on precise, no ppa
[23:37] <lukasstr> daftykins: yeah but the problem ist there is no /etc/default/grub ... and it seems to be a workaround. isn't it? can't i just disable grub and start the system without it?
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> DonkeyHotei, 319 is in a ppa
[23:39] <DonkeyHotei>  *** 319.32-0ubuntu0.0.1 0
[23:39] <DonkeyHotei>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/restricted amd64 Packages
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> DonkeyHotei, run this in precise and pastebin the generated text grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[23:39] <DonkeyHotei> no ppa
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> DonkeyHotei, Or show the sources.list and sources.list.d links
[23:40] <SubCool> ok.. here is one guys.. i am trying to use dpkg --set-selections > - but it appears to fail.. idky
[23:40] <DonkeyHotei> why can't you trust "apt-cache policy" ?
[23:40] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/nvidia-319 no ppas
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> DonkeyHotei, Your not giving enough basic info.
[23:41] <DonkeyHotei> yes i am
[23:41] <DonkeyHotei> the output of apt-cache policy proves the download source
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> DonkeyHotei, okay if you think so not fir me to help ands trust what you say, best of luck. ;)
[23:42] <DonkeyHotei> wilee-nilee: clearly you know nothing of debian/ubuntu packaging, so i can't be losing anything
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> DonkeyHotei, with a little research it appears to be in 12.04 and 13.10, nor sure why, and what you have to understand is that most people that will help have inaccurate info, and we have to research from the bottom up most of the time to get to an answer.
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> we help*
[23:47] <SubCool> there is no verbose option... for dpkg -- soo? anyone
[23:47] <DonkeyHotei> wilee-nilee: the bottom up is "apt-cache policy"
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> DonkeyHotei, In one OS you are refrencing Two, and did not show the sources.list which many mess with.
[23:49] <DonkeyHotei> wilee-nilee: irrelevant. try it yourself: apt-cache policy nvidia-319-updates
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> its not rocket science, but you have to knock pout varibles
[23:49] <DonkeyHotei> you knock out variables with apt-cache policy
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> DonkeyHotei, Heh, you just want to argue good luck with that and getting help here.
[23:49] <SubCool> Ok- let me correct myself.. - ANYTHING with dpkg --set-selections freezes...
[23:50] <SubCool> im going to downgrade to 12.04- > im going to get that going now- but i need to backup my packsges.. so .. anyone please
[23:50] <DonkeyHotei> all i wanted to know was whether 13.04 would be getting 319 as well or will stay at 313
[23:51]  * wilee-nilee remembers isn't donkey the name for an ass.
[23:52] <DonkeyHotei> if you choose not to learn something, no one else chooses it for you
[23:53] <bl4ckdu5t> I can't hibernate on my Ubuntu, how do I fix this?
[23:53] <DonkeyHotei> bl4ckdu5t: it's disabled by default in recent versions, with howtos all over the web
[23:57] <bl4ckdu5t> DonkeyHotei: Thanks!
[23:57] <DonkeyHotei> yw
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> bl4ckdu5t, what release, and do you have at the least an ram=to memory?