[01:59] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I just created a swap partition so that I can hibernate my laptop. Do I have to enable this swap partition somehow or linux will automatically detect it? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-friday30august2013-072757ist.php
[02:01] <xubuntu115> wow
[02:03] <Unit193> c2tarun: I have something in my fstab for it.
[02:03] <Unit193> !fstab
[02:03] <Silver_Arrow> there's a window that's way too tall to see the bottom, is there a way to zoom out on the window, or let me drag it up past the upper panel?
[02:04] <Unit193> Silver_Arrow: Alt+drag
[02:04] <Silver_Arrow> erm, I have all my alt based shortcuts disable because of program conflicts
[02:07] <Silver_Arrow> aha, found it in the settings manager, bound super key to it
[02:15] <Silver_Arrow> the <Lower Window> option removes mouse focus, right?
[02:35] <jonzen> xubuntu 13.04  having res prob with laptop and 1080p tv as 2nd monitor  tv fine but when i connect it the laptop screen seems to change res  set on 1366x768 in display settings  tv set to 1080  laptop screen gets karger and half of it disappears from screen
[02:35] <jonzen> laptop vid is nvidia 610m
[02:36] <jonzen> can ne1 give me suggestion to fix
[02:36] <nerdtron> jonzen try install arandr to manage secondary display...
[02:36] <jonzen> k  ty  will give it a try
[02:40] <jonzen> nope  lappy screen still incorrect  res set correctly but wierding out
[02:41] <jonzen> any way to turn off mirroring
[02:44] <nerdtron> xubuntu 13.04? and did you install nvidia drivers?
[02:45] <jonzen> yes  bumblebee
[02:46] <jonzen> 610m is a morph  hald intel half nvidia   kind of a pain  shoulda just bought the cheaper laptop  hehe
[02:48] <jonzen> ill just disable laptop screen while i watch tv  no biggie  thx for help nerdtron
[02:49] <nerdtron> jonzen sorry..for couldn't help more..i'm not familiar with nvidia drivers as i don't use them...gudluck anyway
[03:00] <Silver_Arrow> is there a way to make the kernel/joystick drive ignore axis 23, 24, and 25?
[03:01] <Silver_Arrow> I can't seem to do anything from jstest-gtk to make a game ignore them or not sense anything on them
[03:01] <Silver_Arrow> (those are the 3 accelerometer axes of a ps3 sixaxis controller I finally got to work)
[03:27] <xubuntu919> I'm in a chatroom
[03:28] <map> hyes
[03:28] <nerdtron> xubuntu919 chatroom support for xubuntu, not just random chat :)
[03:28] <xubuntu919> Dual-booting Xubuntu along side Windows 7, hope it is better than Ubuntu (used with GNOME Shell)
[03:28] <xubuntu919> Oh okay, didn't know it was support only.
[03:28] <nerdtron> xfce is quite good
[03:29] <nerdtron> oh yeah.. #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chat
[03:29] <map> i like xfce
[03:29] <map> although im struggling with everything atm ;/ fresh 13.04 install
[03:29] <xubuntu919> Thanks, I just never used IRC during an installation. Very interesting.
[03:30] <nerdtron> map you'll get the hang of it.. if you have questions, don't hesitate to ask
[03:30] <map> its this pesky broadcom mate
[03:31] <map> i remember it being a pain when i used Ubuntu previously..and at first I had no wired connection nor wireless
[03:31] <nerdtron> xubuntu919 a lot og people are here, especially in the ubuntu channel where people ask for help in installation
[03:31] <map> now ive got a wired connection..but cant get wlan0 to work AT all
[03:31] <map> i installed linux-firmware-nonfree modprobe b43 ..then did upgrade and after apt-get upgrade the wireless worked...rebooted and wireless woint work
[03:32] <map> but its listed in iconfig/iconfig lspci -nnK | grep -iA2 net shos its use b43-pci-bridge driver
[03:32] <xubuntu919> Since it's support, I do have a real question. When I used Ubuntu, headphones worked great, but speakers didn't (popping sound). I tried commands I found google like remove & purge then install, update atlas+pulseaudio. What site would have a guide as to what to install to get my realtek alc888 drivers installed properly?
[03:32] <nerdtron> how do you say it doesn't work? it doesn't show in the network manager?
[03:33] <map> ah sorry - network manager when i clic it on the top of my screen well ya it knos theres a wireless card
[03:33] <map> but no wireless networks shown
[03:33] <map> i made a post about it - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2171279&p=12773653#post12773653
[03:34] <nerdtron> xubuntu919 modprobe snd_hda_codec_realtek
[03:35] <nerdtron> if you are using 13.04, it should be detected and used by default
[03:35] <map> me? bcm4311 isnt..broadcom are always a pain;/
[03:36] <Unit193> Saw the wikipage for it?  I don't find them that much of a pain, though.
[03:37] <map> hmm but ive tried everything i can think of and the cards listed under iwconfig and ifconfig
[03:37] <map> but not showing any networks--i dont know what to do
[03:42] <Unit193> !bcm
[03:45] <map> ive read that:(
[04:23] <xubuntu627> olá a todxs! sou Eds e estou instalando o XBUNTU....
[04:24] <map> ;/
[04:26] <xubuntu627> ISSO AÍ! MAP  O/
[04:27] <map> hello
[04:27] <map> english is all i speak
[04:28] <xubuntu627> hmn, entendo.
[04:28] <map> hm
[05:51] <Monkeytoe> is there a way I can have apt-get return my computer to how it was just after I installed it?
[05:51] <Monkeytoe> basically want it to return everything back to the vanilla xubuntu 13.04 install I did
[05:57] <nikolam> Monkeytoe, Using BTRFS as file system for the installation? Ubuntu makes snapshots during update, so you can back to previous state of the system. (ZFS also has that, but is off-kernel and tools don't do that automatically).
[06:00] <Monkeytoe> ah I did encrypted lvm :(
[06:01] <nikolam> lvm can make snapshots? also, I dont'know if BTRFS can do encryption. Possibly if made on top of LVM.
[06:02] <nikolam> Maybe you can add another GRUB item, then copy fresh install from elsewhere and then boot it.
[06:04] <machina> Hi! How do I boot xubuntu on console-only mode? I'm about to make a "home server" from my old machine without a display, so I don't need X at all
[06:05] <map> damn still not got my stupid wifi wrking
[06:05] <machina> xubuntu 12.10, that is
[06:06] <nikolam> machina, hm. like with disabling lightdm?
[06:07] <machina> nikolam: yes, and all things relating
[06:07] <nikolam> there were 'alternate' install of xubuntu before, not anymore, that provided text-only install. I think it is up to the latest LTS, after that it is not released anymore. but one can upgrade from it...
[06:08] <machina> yes, the problem is that I have everything confed with my current installation and I'd rather not replace it with anything else to save the bother :)
[06:08] <nikolam> I used that alternate-update method to install xubuntu on my eeepc/512MB RAM
[06:09] <nikolam> machina, maybe just remove packages of desktop environment, you don't need. Or better, just disable starting GUI on boot.
[06:10] <machina> nikolam: that's my question, actually: How do I disable starting GUI on boot?
[06:11] <machina> ah, found it with almighty google (duh)
[06:12] <machina> duh
[06:13] <nikolam> machina, what, /etc/init/lightdm.conf ?
[06:14] <nikolam> and, like, rcconf edits it
[06:14] <nikolam> or sudo update-rc.d -f lightdm remove (untested)
[06:15] <nikolam> I use almighty ixquick or duckduckgo , encrypted, private.. they say ;p
[06:15] <machina> nikolam: Internet suggested simply putting "text" on grub commandline, if that works I'll start removing packages :)
[06:16] <nikolam> machina, or let them be there (packages) for you to be able to do ssh -X to a machine and run GUI app if needed. It is not using RAM if not running.
[06:17] <nikolam> machina, it is GRUB2, btw...
[06:17] <machina> nice, haven't actually thought about that
[06:18] <machina> I have very little experience with this whole 'remote desktop' thing
[06:18] <nikolam> and who knows, when you will need to run startc for local session ;p
[06:18] <nikolam> startx
[06:19] <nikolam> ssh -X just redirect ports, and application on remote computer is using local X server for displaying and interaction. That os what X is all about. :)
[06:19] <nikolam> is
[06:19] <machina> intresting, I got to check that out
[06:20] <nikolam> it is by design, from ages
[06:22] <nikolam> it is also saying, there is /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[06:40] <myersg> hey, how do I change the default fonts in Xubuntu 13.04?
[06:40] <myersg> for the system, and applications?
[06:45] <elfy> myersg: settings manager > appearance and window manager
[06:46] <myersg> thanks elfy!
[06:47] <elfy> welcome
[08:00] <vice_> Hi! Where can I find autorun in xubuntu, like system->autorun in ubuntu?
[08:01] <nerdtron> vice_, setting manager> session and startup
[08:02] <vice_> thx, nerdtron, u are so kind :)
[08:04] <vice_> why saving arandr resolution file  not working?:(
[08:06] <vice_> oh, it must be not at system.
[08:06] <vice_> thx!
[10:05] <Pkunk> is there any builtin or 3rd party iptables module to block ssl connections by the CN / hostname /alt fields ?
[12:11] <Monkeytoe> hello... i have a windows file server on my network and just installed xubuntu 13.04 on this pc... I am trying to browse the windows network it just says failed to open windows network
[12:11] <Monkeytoe> im not trying to become a member of the domain, I just want to simply browse the files on the file server by putting in an authorized domain account
[12:33] <Sysi> Monkeytoe: check that you have gvfs-backends installed
[12:36] <Monkeytoe> I do
[13:15] <xubuntu262> Hello ?
[13:16] <bgardner> xubuntu262: Hello
[13:17] <GridCube> !hi | xubuntu262
[13:18] <xubuntu262> Hello, i'm having troubble with a samsung chomebook ,After installing xubuntu on it, i am unable to make the speakers work. Tried to remose pulse audio, tried many things : no mp3 to be played !!
[13:18] <xubuntu262> Would you have an idea ?
[13:19] <GridCube> have you installed the restricted extras?
[13:19] <GridCube> if not then you dont have codecs for mp3
[13:20] <xubuntu262> I'm afraid not : installing ubuntu has been made with a global script. May I use a apt-get install extras maybe ?
[13:21] <GridCube> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:22] <xubuntu262> many thanks, try right now.
[13:24] <xubuntu262> ....processing...
[13:26] <xubuntu262> Done. I am a real newbie : sould i reboot after each apt-get ?
[13:26] <GridCube> not really unless it asks you too
[13:28] <xubuntu262> Thank you. So, no reboot asked, speakers level are high, alsamixer is at high levet too. When I launch audacious (or any mp3 player) still no sound at all. Speakers are ok with chrome Os....really coming fool !!
[13:32] <xubuntu262> BTW, headphones no longer work too....Anyone may have andea ? i
[13:32] <xubuntu262> Sorry : anyone may have an idea ?
[13:37] <GridCube> xubuntu262, check in pavucontrol that the proper output is being used for audio
[13:37] <GridCube> see in the last tab that you are using a correct configuration as well.
[13:37] <GridCube> check that no output is being muted, check that too against alsamixer
[13:40] <xubuntu262> Ok these has been done. Output is set to "speakers" and configuration is "Analog stereo output". None seems mute. I return to alsamixer, thank you for helping.
[13:40] <holstein> xubuntu262: try toggling mutes.. the function key ones.. the ones in the control.. several different ways
[13:43] <newbie834> hi to all
[13:44] <xubuntu262> Hello. Alsamixer still at the highest level, and no mute  controls.....is it possible to try to play an mp3 directly from terminal, just to be sure ?
[13:44] <newbie834> i would like to ask your help in the following issue: in ubuntu desktop the sleep mode hotkey on the keyboard works, in xubuntu it doesn't. where to find the problem?
[13:44] <holstein> xubuntu262: did you toggle *all* mutes?
[13:48] <xubuntu262> I think so, some of them seemes unreachable. "headphone" " speaker" "line in" "lineout " ADCL" ...but I need to go to the eye's doctor : didn't saw others controls on the right !! Sorry, i try now to put them at high level, or to make them work.
[13:49] <holstein> xubuntu262: dont think.. confirm. test *every* mute possiblity and toggle it
[13:49] <xubuntu262> Ok let's go.
[13:49] <holstein> xubuntu262: i have had that *same* issue.. and when i toggled the function key, it muted, and i had to go to the software mise to unmute.. even though it showed it should be playing
[13:50] <holstein> xubuntu262: you cannot trust the labels in alsamixer.. your card vendor likely didnt supply that information to the alsa team
[13:55] <xubuntu262> Thanks all. So : i confirm that  every "toggleable" cursor is at the highiest level . MP3 player shows that the song plays.  It seems that my installation is probably wrong...
[13:56] <xubuntu262> Apologize for ma poor english : i'm french, I have an excuse !
[14:04] <holstein> xubuntu262: i never said highest level
[14:04] <holstein> xubuntu262: i said toggle *all* mutes.. on and off..
[14:13] <xubuntu262> Well I probably not doing correctly what you say : i see for exemple "headphones". Using "enter" allows to move the cursor up and down, from z ero to max. In fact, there is no "mute" position except move the cursor to zerov  : tht's what i call "no mute". Something else to do ?
[14:13] <xubuntu262> to zero : that's what I call "no mute".
[14:14] <xubuntu262> BTW card is DAISY-I2S
[14:16] <holstein> xubuntu262: correct.. i am talking literally about mute
[14:16] <holstein> xubuntu262: the function key mute .. the mute i alsamixer.. the must in pavucontrol
[14:17] <holstein> *not* other controls.. just mute.. since it *is* a known bug.. and an issue i have seen before
[14:23] <xubuntu262> Yes, I saw it cos the speaker icon on the desktop looses its blue "sounds" in front of it, when i turn "mute " on in the pavucontrol. Think i will try to find a "patch" or correcting package....
[14:24] <holstein> xubuntu262: try the live CD.. then, you'l be able to determine if its software or just your config
[14:24] <holstein> if you have the same alsa and kernel versions as the live CD, and the live CD works, and your install doesnt.. you dont need a patch. you have something misconfigured
[14:24] <holstein> xubuntu262: be sure you try as another user
[14:31] <xubuntu262> Ok. Anayway, i don't have a liveCD, I used a script to load xubuntu directely from goo.gl/r9synd . So, i will open another session, and try to compare....Anyway, thank you for the help, i'm sure now to have a "misconfigured" somewhere. May  come tomorrow on the site to say i found....Thanks a lot, and have a good"end-of-day" !
[14:32] <holstein> xubuntu262: you used a script to do what?
[14:32] <holstein> xubuntu262: could be, you are not using xubuntu at all.. if you didnt get xubuntu
[14:34] <xubuntu262> I used a script, like "crouton" but much better, to directly install xubuntu from the Net.
[14:37] <xubuntu262> Here is it : curl -L -O http://goo.gl/s9ryd; sudo bash s9ryd
[14:37] <holstein> xubuntu262: that link is not hot anymore.. i cannot confirm you installed xubuntu at all
[14:37] <xubuntu262> This installs ubuntu to chromebooks....
[14:38] <xubuntu262> huh : used it tree days ago...and yesterday...
[14:39] <xubuntu262> See it ?
[14:39] <xubuntu262> Here's the url ;http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.fr/2013/05/chrubuntu-one-script-to-rule-them-all_31.html
[14:55] <valeriy__> hi, I have a next problem. Using Nemo File manager, I'm able to open a samba folder, but how can I choose files to open directly from application. Like in audacious, open files that are on samba folder?
[15:08] <Distrot> Hi. Can't seem to mount my ntfs drives in 13.04. Installed Xubuntu after reformatting a Windows Server 2012 partition and it won't seem to mount. I'm not sure why the drives are in "an unsafe state" but I just want to override the inaccessibility. Basically, I just need help structuring the command to remove_hiberfile. Thanks.
[18:39] <yeyeman> hi
[18:45] <yeyeman> hey
[18:47] <knome> anybody knows where *all* the systems paper sizes are defined? i'd like to cut them down...
[19:26] <Unit193> knome: /home/unit193/.gtk-custom-papers is the file for custom ones, but searching for locate gtk | grep pap  found nothing other than that.  It seems like it may be in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcups.so.2 ?
[19:30] <knome> actually, the paper sizes are defined in the .ppd file per printer (or at least that's how i was able to modify the list)
[19:30] <knome> but turns out i don't need that, i can just use a command to print what/how i want and not need to poke the long GUI list
[19:33] <Unit193> Aha, alrighty.
[20:54] <hotmedal> I'm somehow banned from #ubuntu. I haven't been there in a month
[20:55] <Unit193> hotmedal: Should ask in #ubuntu-ops
[20:55] <hotmedal> thanks
[20:59] <Azelphur> Anyone know of a WM I can use that gives me separate workspaces per physical monitor?
[21:11] <w30> Azelphur, Wouldn't that need an awfully big monitor?
[21:11] <Unit193> w30: Think he means workspace 1 is on monitor 1, workspace 2 on monitor 2.
[21:11] <w30> Azelphur, or good eyesight and a high resolution
[21:13] <w30> Unit193, hmmm...
[21:29] <Azelphur> Unit193: yea, that's exactly what I mean
[21:29] <Azelphur> on a quad monitor setup, changing workspace on all 4 monitors is less than practical
[21:33] <w30> Azelphur, you would need a sports or Broadway Play  program to keep track of having a bunch of workspaces on each monitor. Maybe a spreadsheet?
[21:33] <Azelphur> w30: or a panel on each monitor, indicating which workspace you are on, just like normal.
[21:37] <Azelphur> there seems to be everything else, per-monitor window lists, per-monitor panels, why not per-monitor workspaces? :P
[21:38] <w30> Azelphur, probably not many developers/programmers have 4 monitors. Some well heeled person needs to donate some monitors and video cards.
[21:39] <Azelphur> w30: wat, pretty much all the developers I know have piles of monitors
[21:40]  * w30 is less than flush with cash.
[21:42] <w30> Azelphur, they need to get busy; I see a need and so do you. *smile*
[21:45] <w30> people working with a lot of text and text files, or graphics modifying would benefit greatly.
[21:49] <w30> Azelphur, I wonder if those graphic designers in  SGI or Disney companies using those 3 thousand dollar Mac Pro's can do that?
[21:50] <Azelphur> w30: dunno
[21:50] <Azelphur> I'm sure I remember hearing about a WM that could do it
[21:50] <Azelphur> I found some stuff saying gnome 3s default behaviour is to only workspace on the primary monitor, lol
[21:51] <r4d1x> hey, I've been getting an error with seahorse-tool, it seems I can encrypt a file once, but after that I get a GLib warning, and nothing happens.  Any ideas?
[21:51] <knome> !offtopic | w30, Azelphur
[21:51] <Azelphur> knome: how on earth is that off topic?
[21:51] <w30> CRS kicks in?   :=)
[21:52] <knome> Azelphur, SGI, Disney or GNOME 3 are not related to xubuntu support
[21:52] <w30> knome, sorry. w30 shuts up
[21:52] <Azelphur> knome: it's related to the question I asked about Xubuntu, try reading at least some of the conversation :)
[21:52] <knome> Azelphur, i did. you can move to -offtopic if you want to continue the social discussion.
[21:53]  * Azelphur sighs, goes to find support elsewhere
[21:53] <knome> i suppose your question was answered: there is no such feature
[21:54] <knome> re: other WM's, i'd ask a generic linux channel, many people here use xfce pretty much exclusively and thus have little experience of other WM's
[21:54] <knome> Azelphur, ^
[21:55] <Unit193> Could try awesome, but don't think it does either...
[21:55] <Azelphur> knome: maybe so, I think we were getting somewhere, as I say, there are definitely wm's that can do it, it's all about finding which one it is, and whether it likes XFCE or not :P
[21:56] <knome> Azelphur, i understand, but this isn't the channel to find out (because that's not really a xubuntu support question any more, and because people here are unlikely to know the answer)
[21:56] <Azelphur> fair enough
[21:57] <knome> Azelphur, you are free to ask in -offtopic (where many of the active supporters and otherwise generally more broadly interested people hang out in)
[21:57] <Azelphur> It's cool, I'll ask in ubuntu-uk, they generally aren't so aggressive against slightly-offtopic :P
[21:57] <knome> ...they also have a much broader topic.
[22:34] <htmlgifted> hay all htmlgifted 12.04 xubuntu user... Nice to met u.. I hope i can find and provide help to any one and every i can... Happy labor day to u all... tty all l8ter.
[22:35] <knome> htmlgifted, you'll want to join #xubuntu-devel where most of the development talk in IRC for xubuntu happens
[22:35] <htmlgifted> oh ok... i'll do that one two then thanks.....
[23:27] <yeyeman> what does an * after a file mean in ls?
[23:40] <David-A> yeyeman: you mean like "ls Madonna*"? also try "ls *.mp3".  * is a wildcard. it may be part of a filename pattern or a filename pattern by its own.
[23:41] <David-A> yeyeman: it is not "ls" that expands * and ? in filename patterns. it is the shell that expands them, and then pass all matching filenames to ls.
[23:47] <yeyeman> David-A: no I mean like script.py*
[23:55] <David-A> if you meet yeyeman, tell them that with the -F flag, ls -F append * to files with executable permission (the probably have ls aliased to ls -F if just ls do that)