[04:41] <arunkumar413> how to install mir desktop
[04:50] <arunkumar413> getting this error while installaing the mir desktop : http://pastebin.com/tVsEfvNU
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> the start of mir is there already
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> !mir
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, run this command in the terminal and pastebin all the text  grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[04:56] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/qjxfdgqC
[05:00] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: r u there
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, You added to much to that sources.list.d it should just be deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mir-team/system-compositor-testing/ubuntu saucy main
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> Heh gotta give the helper more than a minute and 1/2 to respond
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> You can just gksudo nautilus and navigate to that sources.list.d file and edit it and then run a update then try again.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> gotta go start a wash be back in 10
[05:06] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: this is the content of the sources.list file: http://pastebin.com/3GvayRc4
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, In /etc/apt is a folder called sources.list.d that is where the mir text file is. notice in that command you ran first this. 19./etc/apt/sources.list.d
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> you just posted the regular sources.list there two types, additional repos are added to this other one
[05:22] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: updating
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, I would also in the sources.list open the deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partner repo by removing the # it has the restricted extras and other good things there.
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> Cool, the sources an be a bit confusing till you know. ;)
[05:24] <arunkumar413> getting this error: sudo apt-get install mir-demos unity-system-compositor Reading package lists... Done E: Invalid record in the preferences file /etc/apt/preferences.d/50-pin-mir.pref, no Package header
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Can you paste bin what is in that text file in the sources.list.d folder and the commands leading to the error and all the text, in a pastebin.
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Did you run a update after the edit of that text?
[05:27] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: yes
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, I see no packages yet in that ppa, not sure you should be trying this anyway to be honest the mir thning is not even done.
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> supposed to be in 14.04 as of now it is partially in 13.10, but not a done deal.
[05:40] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: i think it's installling now.
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> cool, strange that they do not list the packages is all
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> might be in another linked ppa, just a guess
[05:47] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: done, with installing. how to be sure that it's installed correclty and launch mir
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, No idea, there is a wiki on it in the PPA, I assume that is where you started from.
[09:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[09:09] <ikonia> hello
[09:15] <BluesKaj> hi ikonia ...insomnia here
[11:47] <streulma> hello, is the daily of 31 Aug 2013 based on XMir ? I tried in Virtualbox and found X Server running
[11:56] <Daekdroom> streulma, Mir/XMir doesn't run by default in every hardware/driver combination (and VM is definitely one that it won't run under)
[11:58] <streulma> ok Daekdroom, I want to try Ubuntu 13.10 on my Macbook Pro Retina natively, with X Server the fonts are scaled and not good. I don't know how it is with Mir/XMir
[11:59] <ikonia> streulma: it's no different
[12:00] <ikonia> (or would be no different at this time)
[12:19] <Daekdroom> We're 2 days past the feature freeze. I don't think it'll change until the release.
[12:19] <Daekdroom> (meh, I just realized we got past the feature freeze and I have yet to test the development version)
[12:25] <penguin42> streulma: There are quite a lot of font settings
[12:27] <streulma> penguin42: oh yes ?
[12:29] <penguin42> streulma: I'd first check in the display settings that the resolution it's got is the full retina res
[12:29] <penguin42> hmm - the font settings gui seems to have gone :-(
[12:32] <Daekdroom> Possibly has been for quite awhile. I don't remember it being in 13.04 either.
[12:36] <penguin42> streulma: If you install 'unity-tweak-tool' ther eis a fonts tab on it that can change the font scaling factors, antialiasing, hinting and fonts - be careful you can probably make it much worse as well as better!
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all again
[15:20] <PatrickDickey> Probably a silly question, but how stable is the Alpha 2 release? I mean, is it pretty close to beta quality, or still pretty much dogfood?
[15:51] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: hit and miss, until release, you've got to keep the intention of "may break"
[15:59] <PatrickDickey> ikonia: So, next week (according to the release schedule) is when Beta1 will be released?
[16:00] <ikonia> according to the schedule, yes
[16:01] <PatrickDickey> Thanks. I think I'll take the chance and install it. It's on my laptop, so I really won't be out much if it fails.
[16:03] <ikonia> that's the right attitude
[16:04] <PatrickDickey> Off hand, do you know if they made any changes to Rhythmbox and how it's handled?
[16:05] <ikonia> not that I'm aware of
[16:29] <jarope_> hi running saucy but have a graphics issue
[16:29] <jarope_> after running nvidia-settings I thinkit messed up my xorg?
[16:30] <jarope_> i am on a laptop with optimus and overall it has been excellent on 13.10
[16:31] <jarope_> basically I had the low graphics mode box coming up and nothing would work from that point.  I booted to root and reinstalled the nvidia common and now can login - BUT i just get a black screen.  I can bring up a terminal and run apps from there.  Hence beiong in xchat now
[16:32] <jarope_> however the apps have no system borders or controls and I cannot tab between them.
[16:33] <jarope_> is this xorg OR nvidia please? how can I reset to basic xorg conf as the xorg.conf file doesnt seem to be in the X11 file?
[16:35] <jarope_> right tried an xorg reinstall
[16:44] <jarope_> hi back a reinstall of xorg did not help
[16:44] <jarope_> infact i can no longer login as myself
[16:55] <penguin42> jarope_: ok, go back a step
[16:55] <penguin42> jarope_: What did you install in what order, and what have you had working?
[17:08] <jarope_> hi penguin42
[17:09] <jarope_> ok I have had everything working fantastic for weeks
[17:09] <jarope_> THEN
[17:09] <jarope_> I tried the nvidia-settings to see if any updates had moved the multi monitor situation forward
[17:10] <jarope_> so nothing changed until I rebooted and was greeted with the "low graphic" mode bix
[17:10] <jarope_> which wouldnt let me change the configs etc just see the log, which I couldnt see any obvious problems in
[17:10] <penguin42> ok, so you're betting it's some nvidia setting that's unhappy
[17:11] <jarope_> yep
[17:11]  * penguin42 hasn't run the closed nvidia drivers for  a while
[17:11] <jarope_> now in the past I know you could go and remove the xorg.conf file and everything would sort itself out
[17:11] <jarope_> but xorg.conf isnt in X11
[17:12] <jarope_> there is .backup and .failsafe
[17:12] <penguin42> jarope_: Right so a normal Ubuntu install doesn't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:12] <jarope_> and as 13.10 is MIR
[17:12] <penguin42> jarope_: X configs tend to go into /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[17:12] <jarope_> ok
[17:12] <penguin42> hmm, I don't know anything about Mir
[17:13] <jarope_> me neither and dont think it has anything to do with this
[17:13] <ali1234> it doesn't
[17:13] <jarope_> thanks for confirm ali1234
[17:13] <ali1234> nvidia stopped using xorg.conf a few versions ago
[17:13] <ali1234> i don't know how you reset the config on new versions
[17:13] <ali1234> probably by uninstalling the driver with jockey
[17:13] <jarope_> well i tried a reinstall
[17:14] <jarope_> apt-get install --reinstall
[17:14] <jarope_> would there be anything in my home area that could be being called? .nvidia-?
[17:15] <jarope_> or in .conf
[17:15] <ali1234> no
[17:15] <jarope_> ok
[17:15] <jarope_> so jockey would be a good place to start
[17:16] <ali1234> nvidia-settings saves settings in ~/.nvidia-settings
[17:16] <jarope_> will try that if there are no other suggestions.  Last time I had this I did a reinstall but have set up so much now I am loathed to do that again.  I appreciate that it is dev so I am not complaining
[17:16] <ali1234> but that can't affect the login screen
[17:17] <jarope_> well I get the login screen now but after that nothing
[17:17] <jarope_> ctl+alt+t works to bring up terminal
[17:17] <penguin42> jarope_: What happens if you make yourself a new user or login as guest?
[17:17] <jarope_> I am logged in as guest now
[17:17] <jarope_> blank screen no unity
[17:17] <jarope_> no system borders on aps
[17:18] <penguin42> ok, so it's not just specific to one user
[17:18] <jarope_> and they are all stacked one on top of the other so to open anything else I have to open new terminal . penguin42 no affecting all to different extents
[17:19] <jarope_> for me no login just jumps out and back to login screen
[17:20] <penguin42> yeh so I'd agree at trying to use jockey to remove the nvidia stuff and see what state you get to and then add it back
[17:23] <jarope_> ok there was no jockey
[17:23] <penguin42> no jockey-cli ?
[17:23] <jarope_> gtk-jockey
[17:23] <jarope_> oo didnt try jockey-cli
[17:23] <jarope_> ok will be back
[17:24] <bazhang> !find jockey
[17:25] <jarope_> i'm putting gtk in wrong place
[17:25] <jarope_> DOH
[17:26] <jarope_> nope not there
[17:27] <jarope_> anyway removed a nvidia file from my home area so gonna try login to that
[17:27] <jarope_> thanks for help guys
[21:04] <koko0> hi, ive upgraded to 13.10 and now cant switch keyboard layout with Alt + shift
[21:05] <koko0> if i assign other weird shortcuts it works
[21:05] <koko0> anyone can help me figure out why?
[21:06] <Fyodorovna> Koko0, make another user and see if it happens there.
[21:06] <koko0> ok...
[21:06] <koko0> btw new users leave garbage on the disk?
[21:07] <sporkeee> No
[21:08] <sporkeee> You said you upgraded this a fresh install?
[21:13] <koko0> no fresh install
[21:14] <koko0> from 13.04
[21:14] <koko0> on the new user its the same
[21:15] <koko0> well its kind of weird, i can't assign Alt + Shift from the Region & language Window
[21:15] <koko0> but from keyboard settings i can
[21:15] <koko0> but it doesnt work...
[21:34] <sporkeee> Koko0, have you tried another keyboard or OS?
[21:36] <koko0> one sec, i will try in vm
[21:37] <koko0> working perfectly in an xp vm
[21:40] <sporkeee> I would download the daily and try it to get a clean look at it.
[21:41] <koko0> well, cant do this...its still my main os
[21:44] <Daekdroom> ...?
[21:44] <Daekdroom> Oh. You mean you'd lose data?
[21:45] <koko0> im afraid of daily builds
[21:45] <koko0> cant lose this machine
[21:45] <Daekdroom> ...
[21:46] <Daekdroom> If you upgraded to 13.10 and is upgrading the packages constantly, you're using the same packages that are shipped within the daily build
[21:46] <Daekdroom> (although I can't guarantee that the daily installer works as good :P)
[21:46] <koko0> well, if thats what u mean by daily so yes
[21:46] <koko0> i thought u ment like compile it myself or something
[21:47] <Daekdroom> Nah.
[21:47] <Daekdroom> !daily
[21:48] <koko0> isnt it the same as apt-get update & upgrade?...
[21:48] <Daekdroom> dist-upgrade is needed sometimes, but yeah.
[21:48] <koko0> so im on the daily build
[22:43] <koko0> this is the ubuntu 13.10 irc channel?
[22:43] <penguin42> yep
[22:44] <koko0> well i was here with keybaord problem, and now tried with live cd
[22:44] <koko0> same problem, not able to choose Alt Shift as a keyboard layout switcher