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arunkumar413how to install mir desktop04:41
arunkumar413getting this error while installaing the mir desktop : http://pastebin.com/tVsEfvNU04:50
wilee-nileethe start of mir is there already04:50
wilee-nilee!mir04:50
ubottuMir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir04:50
wilee-nileearunkumar413, run this command in the terminal and pastebin all the text  grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}04:54
arunkumar413wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/qjxfdgqC04:56
arunkumar413wilee-nilee: r u there05:00
wilee-nileearunkumar413, You added to much to that sources.list.d it should just be deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mir-team/system-compositor-testing/ubuntu saucy main05:01
wilee-nileeHeh gotta give the helper more than a minute and 1/2 to respond05:01
wilee-nileeYou can just gksudo nautilus and navigate to that sources.list.d file and edit it and then run a update then try again.05:02
wilee-nileegotta go start a wash be back in 1005:02
arunkumar413wilee-nilee: this is the content of the sources.list file: http://pastebin.com/3GvayRc405:06
wilee-nileearunkumar413, In /etc/apt is a folder called sources.list.d that is where the mir text file is. notice in that command you ran first this. 19./etc/apt/sources.list.d05:18
wilee-nileeyou just posted the regular sources.list there two types, additional repos are added to this other one05:18
arunkumar413wilee-nilee: updating05:22
wilee-nileearunkumar413, I would also in the sources.list open the deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partner repo by removing the # it has the restricted extras and other good things there.05:23
wilee-nileeCool, the sources an be a bit confusing till you know. ;)05:24
arunkumar413getting this error: sudo apt-get install mir-demos unity-system-compositor Reading package lists... Done E: Invalid record in the preferences file /etc/apt/preferences.d/50-pin-mir.pref, no Package header05:24
wilee-nileearunkumar413, Can you paste bin what is in that text file in the sources.list.d folder and the commands leading to the error and all the text, in a pastebin.05:25
wilee-nileearunkumar413, Did you run a update after the edit of that text?05:27
arunkumar413wilee-nilee: yes05:27
wilee-nileearunkumar413, I see no packages yet in that ppa, not sure you should be trying this anyway to be honest the mir thning is not even done.05:28
wilee-nileesupposed to be in 14.04 as of now it is partially in 13.10, but not a done deal.05:29
arunkumar413wilee-nilee: i think it's installling now.05:40
wilee-nileecool, strange that they do not list the packages is all05:41
wilee-nileemight be in another linked ppa, just a guess05:42
arunkumar413wilee-nilee: done, with installing. how to be sure that it's installed correclty and launch mir05:47
wilee-nileearunkumar413, No idea, there is a wiki on it in the PPA, I assume that is where you started from.05:51
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BluesKaj'Morning all09:08
ikoniahello09:09
BluesKajhi ikonia ...insomnia here09:15
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streulmahello, is the daily of 31 Aug 2013 based on XMir ? I tried in Virtualbox and found X Server running11:47
Daekdroomstreulma, Mir/XMir doesn't run by default in every hardware/driver combination (and VM is definitely one that it won't run under)11:56
streulmaok Daekdroom, I want to try Ubuntu 13.10 on my Macbook Pro Retina natively, with X Server the fonts are scaled and not good. I don't know how it is with Mir/XMir11:58
ikoniastreulma: it's no different11:59
ikonia(or would be no different at this time)12:00
DaekdroomWe're 2 days past the feature freeze. I don't think it'll change until the release.12:19
Daekdroom(meh, I just realized we got past the feature freeze and I have yet to test the development version)12:19
penguin42streulma: There are quite a lot of font settings12:25
streulmapenguin42: oh yes ?12:27
penguin42streulma: I'd first check in the display settings that the resolution it's got is the full retina res12:29
penguin42hmm - the font settings gui seems to have gone :-(12:29
DaekdroomPossibly has been for quite awhile. I don't remember it being in 13.04 either.12:32
penguin42streulma: If you install 'unity-tweak-tool' ther eis a fonts tab on it that can change the font scaling factors, antialiasing, hinting and fonts - be careful you can probably make it much worse as well as better!12:36
BluesKajHi all again12:45
PatrickDickeyProbably a silly question, but how stable is the Alpha 2 release? I mean, is it pretty close to beta quality, or still pretty much dogfood?15:20
ikoniaPatrickDickey: hit and miss, until release, you've got to keep the intention of "may break"15:51
PatrickDickeyikonia: So, next week (according to the release schedule) is when Beta1 will be released?15:59
ikoniaaccording to the schedule, yes16:00
PatrickDickeyThanks. I think I'll take the chance and install it. It's on my laptop, so I really won't be out much if it fails.16:01
ikoniathat's the right attitude16:03
PatrickDickeyOff hand, do you know if they made any changes to Rhythmbox and how it's handled?16:04
ikonianot that I'm aware of16:05
jarope_hi running saucy but have a graphics issue16:29
jarope_after running nvidia-settings I thinkit messed up my xorg?16:29
jarope_i am on a laptop with optimus and overall it has been excellent on 13.1016:30
jarope_basically I had the low graphics mode box coming up and nothing would work from that point.  I booted to root and reinstalled the nvidia common and now can login - BUT i just get a black screen.  I can bring up a terminal and run apps from there.  Hence beiong in xchat now16:31
jarope_however the apps have no system borders or controls and I cannot tab between them.16:32
jarope_is this xorg OR nvidia please? how can I reset to basic xorg conf as the xorg.conf file doesnt seem to be in the X11 file?16:33
jarope_right tried an xorg reinstall16:35
jarope_hi back a reinstall of xorg did not help16:44
jarope_infact i can no longer login as myself16:44
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penguin42jarope_: ok, go back a step16:55
penguin42jarope_: What did you install in what order, and what have you had working?16:55
jarope_hi penguin4217:08
jarope_ok I have had everything working fantastic for weeks17:09
jarope_THEN17:09
jarope_I tried the nvidia-settings to see if any updates had moved the multi monitor situation forward17:09
jarope_so nothing changed until I rebooted and was greeted with the "low graphic" mode bix17:10
jarope_which wouldnt let me change the configs etc just see the log, which I couldnt see any obvious problems in17:10
penguin42ok, so you're betting it's some nvidia setting that's unhappy17:10
jarope_yep17:11
* penguin42 hasn't run the closed nvidia drivers for a while17:11
jarope_now in the past I know you could go and remove the xorg.conf file and everything would sort itself out17:11
jarope_but xorg.conf isnt in X1117:11
jarope_there is .backup and .failsafe17:12
penguin42jarope_: Right so a normal Ubuntu install doesn't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:12
jarope_and as 13.10 is MIR17:12
penguin42jarope_: X configs tend to go into /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d17:12
jarope_ok17:12
penguin42hmm, I don't know anything about Mir17:12
jarope_me neither and dont think it has anything to do with this17:13
ali1234it doesn't17:13
jarope_thanks for confirm ali123417:13
ali1234nvidia stopped using xorg.conf a few versions ago17:13
ali1234i don't know how you reset the config on new versions17:13
ali1234probably by uninstalling the driver with jockey17:13
jarope_well i tried a reinstall17:13
jarope_apt-get install --reinstall17:14
jarope_would there be anything in my home area that could be being called? .nvidia-?17:14
jarope_or in .conf17:15
ali1234no17:15
jarope_ok17:15
jarope_so jockey would be a good place to start17:15
ali1234nvidia-settings saves settings in ~/.nvidia-settings17:16
jarope_will try that if there are no other suggestions.  Last time I had this I did a reinstall but have set up so much now I am loathed to do that again.  I appreciate that it is dev so I am not complaining17:16
ali1234but that can't affect the login screen17:16
jarope_well I get the login screen now but after that nothing17:17
jarope_ctl+alt+t works to bring up terminal17:17
penguin42jarope_: What happens if you make yourself a new user or login as guest?17:17
jarope_I am logged in as guest now17:17
jarope_blank screen no unity17:17
jarope_no system borders on aps17:17
penguin42ok, so it's not just specific to one user17:18
jarope_and they are all stacked one on top of the other so to open anything else I have to open new terminal . penguin42 no affecting all to different extents17:18
jarope_for me no login just jumps out and back to login screen17:19
penguin42yeh so I'd agree at trying to use jockey to remove the nvidia stuff and see what state you get to and then add it back17:20
jarope_ok there was no jockey17:23
penguin42no jockey-cli ?17:23
jarope_gtk-jockey17:23
jarope_oo didnt try jockey-cli17:23
jarope_ok will be back17:23
bazhang!find jockey17:24
ubottuFound: jockey-common, jockey-gtk, jockey-kde17:24
jarope_i'm putting gtk in wrong place17:25
jarope_DOH17:25
jarope_nope not there17:26
jarope_anyway removed a nvidia file from my home area so gonna try login to that17:27
jarope_thanks for help guys17:27
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koko0hi, ive upgraded to 13.10 and now cant switch keyboard layout with Alt + shift21:04
koko0if i assign other weird shortcuts it works21:05
koko0anyone can help me figure out why?21:05
FyodorovnaKoko0, make another user and see if it happens there.21:06
koko0ok...21:06
koko0btw new users leave garbage on the disk?21:06
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sporkeeeNo21:07
sporkeeeYou said you upgraded this a fresh install?21:08
koko0no fresh install21:13
koko0from 13.0421:14
koko0on the new user its the same21:14
koko0well its kind of weird, i can't assign Alt + Shift from the Region & language Window21:15
koko0but from keyboard settings i can21:15
koko0but it doesnt work...21:15
sporkeeeKoko0, have you tried another keyboard or OS?21:34
koko0one sec, i will try in vm21:36
koko0working perfectly in an xp vm21:37
sporkeeeI would download the daily and try it to get a clean look at it.21:40
koko0well, cant do this...its still my main os21:41
Daekdroom...?21:44
DaekdroomOh. You mean you'd lose data?21:44
koko0im afraid of daily builds21:45
koko0cant lose this machine21:45
Daekdroom...21:45
DaekdroomIf you upgraded to 13.10 and is upgrading the packages constantly, you're using the same packages that are shipped within the daily build21:46
Daekdroom(although I can't guarantee that the daily installer works as good :P)21:46
koko0well, if thats what u mean by daily so yes21:46
koko0i thought u ment like compile it myself or something21:46
DaekdroomNah.21:47
Daekdroom!daily21:47
ubottuDaily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/21:47
koko0isnt it the same as apt-get update & upgrade?...21:48
Daekdroomdist-upgrade is needed sometimes, but yeah.21:48
koko0so im on the daily build21:48
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koko0this is the ubuntu 13.10 irc channel?22:43
penguin42yep22:43
koko0well i was here with keybaord problem, and now tried with live cd22:44
koko0same problem, not able to choose Alt Shift as a keyboard layout switcher22:44
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