[00:00] jbicha, ha finally fixed the crappy gdm -> login transition ;) [00:53] oh yay user sessions break XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP :( [01:55] why does it break it? [01:55] what is it set to? here it's gnome [02:25] bjsnider, its no longer set withingthe environment that gnome-settings-daemon runs [02:26] lightdm was patched, to fix this issue, but obviously not gdm [02:31] I've had issues with $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP for a while now in Saucy, some times it wouldn't seem to work right for apps run from a terminal [02:31] but it's working fine here now [02:32] I think it would be a bit better if we sniffed dbus for whether Shell is running instead of using XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP [02:32] because Flashback is closer to Unity than GNOME Shell in many cases [02:39] jbicha, this is a slightly different issue, gnome-session set XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP [02:39] so anything run as a upstart user session, won't have it set [02:40] by all accounts Flashback is going to be messing no matter what we do! [02:40] although perhaps it should just set its desktop session as unity [02:45] jbicha, anyway have patched gdm to provide equivalent functionality [02:54] yeah we could ping Edubuntu about whether they want to just pretend to be Unity; it might be too late to mess with this cycle [03:02] darkxst: syslinux is still the Ubuntu purple with today's daily here [03:03] jbicha, no way, you must have yesterdays [03:05] I just zsynced, i386 and amd64 both [03:06] the plymouth bootloader is the nice new one, but I still get the purple Ubuntu "press any key for accessibility" symbolic screen when booting the iso [03:13] also with amd64 I'm getting the unity-greeter-style accessibility and network menus in ubiquity-standalone instead of the gnome-shell mode that I get with the i386 image [03:14] jbicha, really sounds like you have an old image [03:14] syslinux is now great [03:14] grey [03:16] oops, wrong directory [03:17] I zsynced from my ubuntu directory not the ubuntu-gnome one [03:25] lol, that would do it ;) [03:25] bug 1212408 [03:25] bug 1212408 in gdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm/gdm needs to set $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1212408 [03:26] patches are in there, although I guess where blocked by the freeze right now [03:27] gdm's easy to get pushed through since no one else uses it [03:28] and XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP not working is a fairly important bug [03:29] you said you figured out a way to suppress the default wallpaper popping up during boot? [03:30] no, maybe you just meant the zoom-in effect on login? [03:31] the zoom effect is annoying because my computer is working too hard loading everything on login that the zoom effect loses too many frames to look cool [03:35] jbicha, g-s-d was loading the background plugin [03:35] I have disabled it [03:35] (nothing to do with the zoom effect) [03:35] what does that fix? and we still need the background plugin, right? [03:42] jbicha, backgrounds are done in mutter [03:42] the default background that was display before and after gdm was coming from g-s-d [03:49] jbicha, so essentially we were running 2 different background plugins! [04:09] jbicha, bug 1219148 [04:09] bug 1219148 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Fix gdm -> login transition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1219148 [07:38] jbicha, I had no idea, thnx [14:12] Hi, everyone! [14:13] Is there any Ubuntu Gnome forum? I've got some issues with UG 13.10 A2 and need help solving them. [16:39] sargorn, i guess you could ask here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=329 [16:39] or in this channel [16:59] Hi [17:00] I'm having trouble with Hibernation. The session saves fine but the networking applet says "Unmanaged" and can't get the command to make it get managed again. should I file a bug and where to ? [17:01] checoimg: you might be able to workaround that resume bug by running sudo pkill NetworkManager [17:02] you can report the bug by running ubuntu-bug linux [17:02] and then Alt+F2 : NetworkManager ? [17:03] if that command works right, it should automatically restart NM [17:03] Ok [17:03] I'll try now [17:13] The bug appears to happen with hybrid hibernate because when hibernation is done the suspend session doesn't have anything on networking but that's just a guess [17:13] let me try hybrid hibernation since I tried pm-hibernate [17:13] back in 10 minutes [17:27] jbicha : Thanks [19:33] is there a keyboard shortcut for the notification bar (or w/e it's called)? [19:50] theenduser, super+m [19:53] thnx again bjsnider :) [19:53] saucy's rock solid atm [19:53] some glitches w/ tweak-tool but that's it [21:38] jbicha, seem input switching is just broken under Unity even without g-s-d 3.8? [21:39] darkxst: bug 1201679 [21:39] bug 1201679 in unity (Ubuntu) "ibus' Super+Space shortcut (usually) doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1201679