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dzhoyeah, one of mine won't even boot00:51
Unit193Try Unity and Mir!11!!00:52
* canthus13 just rebooted.00:59
canthus13seemed simpler.00:59
Unit193There goes uptime...00:59
Unit19320:59:53 up 192 days, 10:52,  4 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.08   stiiill got it. :D01:00
thafreak192...meh01:59
thafreakmy colocated server is 198 ;)01:59
thafreakhaha, oh and my bsd router...737 days01:59
thafreakand that's only because 2 years ago I was moving things and unplugged the wrong thing02:00
canthus13Unit193: It's a laptop. and my uptime is low on my servers because I moved a month ago.02:20
Unit193canthus13: Sorry, kidding of course. :P02:20
canthus13ALl good. :)02:20
thafreakno it's not02:21
* canthus13 The Games thafreak.02:21
thafreakFUUUUUU02:21
thafreakI was just going to do that to you02:21
canthus13heh.02:21
thafreakyou /b/tard02:21
canthus13<- oldfag02:21
thafreakseriously ;)02:22
thafreak<- summerfag02:22
canthus13heh.02:22
skellatTHE GAME02:22
canthus13eh. it' been less than 30 minutes. :P02:22
* skellat is still filling out paperwork trying to get employed again02:26
* Unit193 sets a cron to output "THE GAME" into here every 31 minutes. :D02:26
* thafreak sets a cron to leave the room ever 29 minutes02:26
thafreak\o/02:26
Unit193thafreak: Would still work, "Why did I leave?  OH DANGIT!" :D02:27
thafreaki'd forget02:27
thafreakand if I were actually paying attention when it quit and re-joined, I'd start debugging things02:27
thafreakmaybe like hours and hours later, I'd remember02:28
skellatUnit193: Need to tie it into whatever kicks planet.u.c to Ubuntu.  Purportedly it is when something processes on Launchpad but who knows...02:28
skellats/to Ubuntu/to rebuild and reprocess/02:29
jenniskellat meant to say: Unit193: Need to tie it into whatever kicks planet.u.c to rebuild and reprocess.  Purportedly it is when something processes on Launchpad but who knows...02:29
skellatIt has been a long day02:29
skellatDoes anybody have reaction to this: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/08/30/re-energizing-loco-teams/02:30
jenni[ Re-Energizing LoCo Teams | jonobacon@home ] - https://j.mp/14Lu7yV02:30
Unit193I mainly ignore his blog, and the planet. :P02:30
skellatUnit193: During vUDS we had another round of Let's Reinvent The LoCo Paradigm.  If it weren't for TWC crapping out on me the discussion would have been far more boisterous and I might have been yelling at Randall Ross a bit.02:32
Unit193So good it cut out? :P02:33
Unit193None of those really looked like it was something I couldn't live without.02:33
skellatThe connection was so great here I couldn't even connect to the video call for longer than 1 second.02:33
skellatThe drum is being beat toward converting LoCos into Special Interest Groups without any geographical basis or minimal membership02:35
Unit193Meh.02:35
skellatMeanwhile the Approved/Unapproved LoCo thing has **finally** gone away02:35
skellatIf I get things put together nicely we'll be a Verified Team by mid-September02:36
skellatIn the new paradigm, most of the burden of being a Verified Team will actually fall on my shoulders alone as to any checklists that have to be cleared.02:37
Unit193(They kind of just renamed it.)02:38
skellat**SMACK**02:38
skellatThere are only three criteria points.02:38
skellat1. The team exists in LP02:38
skellat2.  The team follows appropriate naming conventions02:38
skellat3.  The team contact has signed the CoC02:38
Unit193I suppose my question is, how many people here still run *buntu*?02:39
skellatThey build that into the health check02:39
Unit193No, I'm wondering that now.02:40
skellatThough their proxy for that is by counting the number of Ubuntu Member persons your LoCo has as one barometer of health02:40
skellatWell, you and I run Xubuntu02:40
skellatThat makes 202:40
skellatDarkwing is lurking from Indiana but he went over to Fedora a while ago02:40
skellatpaultag is a Debian person02:41
skellatjenni is a bot02:41
skellatjacob is in WA02:41
skellatSo, I'd be curious what canthus13 and thafreak were actually running02:41
skellatBeyond that, itsafork is running mainline which gives us 302:42
canthus13Depends. I have 2 desktops with Ubuntu. (1 is 12.10 and the other is 13.04)  2 laptops running Mint (12 on one and 15 on the other), an 2 servers running debian.02:43
skellatTechnically I have a laptop on Xubuntu 12.04, a BeagleBoard-xM on Debian Testing, and a Raspberry Pi on Raspbian.02:43
skellatSo with canthus13 that gives us 402:43
Unit193No need to !pingall...02:43
canthus13Eh. My kids use those machines. :)02:43
Unit193canthus13: Shuuuush, they'll never know! :P02:44
skellatI'll count Debian Testing & Unstable as the sharp points of the current development edge that exists outside the usual Ubuntu cadence02:45
skellatFor now at least02:45
skellatUntil Colin Watson gets the "current" back-end stuff running so you can have your very own *buntu Unstable02:46
skellatUnit193: The big push remains UbuCon at OLF02:47
skellatIt has been promoted and I hope for at least tens of people02:48
skellatMaybe fives of people if things go haywire02:48
skellatUnit193: Are you going to write up a rationale for your proposed xubuntu-core seed?  Since we're after feature freeze a project on LP might need to be established where we can play with things and not mess with the currently used ones.02:50
Unit193Nope.02:53
skellatOkay then02:54
* skellat wanders back to killing spam on lisnews.org02:56
Unit193I suppose technically you'd have to define "write up a rationale"...03:00
skellatUnit193: Explain in 250 words or less why you made the choices you did in cutting to produce that proposed xubuntu.core seed03:05
Unit193(Though of course this is the wrong channel.) Thought about putting comments on some of the changes.03:07
skellatThat works03:08
skellatWe'll save that for proper discussion in the proper channel another time though03:08
* skellat disappears03:08
Unit193canthus13: So you moved across town?  How many people do you host on your server(s) anywho?03:12
canthus13about 6 or 7.03:12
canthus13...and a bot.03:13
Unit193Shells+irssi/weechat mainly?03:13
canthus13and webspace.03:13
Unit193Ah, alrighty.03:14
canthus13At least one person uses botsync to back up their phone to it. :P03:15
Unit193Hah, nice.03:15
Unit193Well that works.03:15
Unit193Dang, GoDaddy and no private registration.03:16
* canthus13 shrugs. I'm cheap. and I haven't updated the addresses in years...03:16
canthus13Godaddy works fine for me.03:17
* canthus13 sees no reason to pay someone 2 to 4 times what he pays just because they're not godaddy.03:17
Unit193BiosElement seems to like name.com, they don't seem that expensive.03:18
Unit193Even with the discount, http://en.gandi.net/ is higher than the alternatives...03:19
jenni[ Domain name registrar and VPS cloud hosting - Gandi.net ] - https://j.mp/14LzlL203:19
Unit193gilbert: Howdy.18:27
Unit193Hrm, anyone know if there's something that explains the holdup for packages in Debian NEW?19:51
skellatUnit193: An FTP assistant hasn't looked it over perhaps.  Ping paultag or ScottK.19:56
Unit193Nah, not my package, just waiting for it to hit already... :P19:57
paultaghum?20:04
paultagOh, hey20:04
paultagyeah, we're working hard, people just keep fucking uploading NEW packages all day20:04
paultagwe're doing a lot now20:04
Unit193Hah, I'm not saying "Work faster, work faster!"  I know some things have a page with reasons something isn't out of proposed, for example.20:06
skellatHere's a bit of reading: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/xubuntu.saucy/_germinate_output22:51
jennihttps://j.mp/17xpDhH22:51

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