[00:51] <dzho> yeah, one of mine won't even boot
[00:52] <Unit193> Try Unity and Mir!11!!
[00:59]  * canthus13 just rebooted.
[00:59] <canthus13> seemed simpler.
[00:59] <Unit193> There goes uptime...
[01:00] <Unit193> 20:59:53 up 192 days, 10:52,  4 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.08   stiiill got it. :D
[01:59] <thafreak> 192...meh
[01:59] <thafreak> my colocated server is 198 ;)
[01:59] <thafreak> haha, oh and my bsd router...737 days
[02:00] <thafreak> and that's only because 2 years ago I was moving things and unplugged the wrong thing
[02:20] <canthus13> Unit193: It's a laptop. and my uptime is low on my servers because I moved a month ago.
[02:20] <Unit193> canthus13: Sorry, kidding of course. :P
[02:20] <canthus13> ALl good. :)
[02:21] <thafreak> no it's not
[02:21]  * canthus13 The Games thafreak.
[02:21] <thafreak> FUUUUUU
[02:21] <thafreak> I was just going to do that to you
[02:21] <canthus13> heh.
[02:21] <thafreak> you /b/tard
[02:21] <canthus13> <- oldfag
[02:22] <thafreak> seriously ;)
[02:22] <thafreak> <- summerfag
[02:22] <canthus13> heh.
[02:22] <skellat> THE GAME
[02:22] <canthus13> eh. it' been less than 30 minutes. :P
[02:26]  * skellat is still filling out paperwork trying to get employed again
[02:26]  * Unit193 sets a cron to output "THE GAME" into here every 31 minutes. :D
[02:26]  * thafreak sets a cron to leave the room ever 29 minutes
[02:26] <thafreak> \o/
[02:27] <Unit193> thafreak: Would still work, "Why did I leave?  OH DANGIT!" :D
[02:27] <thafreak> i'd forget
[02:27] <thafreak> and if I were actually paying attention when it quit and re-joined, I'd start debugging things
[02:28] <thafreak> maybe like hours and hours later, I'd remember
[02:28] <skellat> Unit193: Need to tie it into whatever kicks planet.u.c to Ubuntu.  Purportedly it is when something processes on Launchpad but who knows...
[02:29] <skellat> s/to Ubuntu/to rebuild and reprocess/
[02:29] <jenni> skellat meant to say: Unit193: Need to tie it into whatever kicks planet.u.c to rebuild and reprocess.  Purportedly it is when something processes on Launchpad but who knows...
[02:29] <skellat> It has been a long day
[02:30] <skellat> Does anybody have reaction to this: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/08/30/re-energizing-loco-teams/
[02:30] <jenni> [ Re-Energizing LoCo Teams | jonobacon@home ] - https://j.mp/14Lu7yV
[02:30] <Unit193> I mainly ignore his blog, and the planet. :P
[02:32] <skellat> Unit193: During vUDS we had another round of Let's Reinvent The LoCo Paradigm.  If it weren't for TWC crapping out on me the discussion would have been far more boisterous and I might have been yelling at Randall Ross a bit.
[02:33] <Unit193> So good it cut out? :P
[02:33] <Unit193> None of those really looked like it was something I couldn't live without.
[02:33] <skellat> The connection was so great here I couldn't even connect to the video call for longer than 1 second.
[02:35] <skellat> The drum is being beat toward converting LoCos into Special Interest Groups without any geographical basis or minimal membership
[02:35] <Unit193> Meh.
[02:35] <skellat> Meanwhile the Approved/Unapproved LoCo thing has **finally** gone away
[02:36] <skellat> If I get things put together nicely we'll be a Verified Team by mid-September
[02:37] <skellat> In the new paradigm, most of the burden of being a Verified Team will actually fall on my shoulders alone as to any checklists that have to be cleared.
[02:38] <Unit193> (They kind of just renamed it.)
[02:38] <skellat> **SMACK**
[02:38] <skellat> There are only three criteria points.
[02:38] <skellat> 1. The team exists in LP
[02:38] <skellat> 2.  The team follows appropriate naming conventions
[02:38] <skellat> 3.  The team contact has signed the CoC
[02:39] <Unit193> I suppose my question is, how many people here still run *buntu*?
[02:39] <skellat> They build that into the health check
[02:40] <Unit193> No, I'm wondering that now.
[02:40] <skellat> Though their proxy for that is by counting the number of Ubuntu Member persons your LoCo has as one barometer of health
[02:40] <skellat> Well, you and I run Xubuntu
[02:40] <skellat> That makes 2
[02:40] <skellat> Darkwing is lurking from Indiana but he went over to Fedora a while ago
[02:41] <skellat> paultag is a Debian person
[02:41] <skellat> jenni is a bot
[02:41] <skellat> jacob is in WA
[02:41] <skellat> So, I'd be curious what canthus13 and thafreak were actually running
[02:42] <skellat> Beyond that, itsafork is running mainline which gives us 3
[02:43] <canthus13> Depends. I have 2 desktops with Ubuntu. (1 is 12.10 and the other is 13.04)  2 laptops running Mint (12 on one and 15 on the other), an 2 servers running debian.
[02:43] <skellat> Technically I have a laptop on Xubuntu 12.04, a BeagleBoard-xM on Debian Testing, and a Raspberry Pi on Raspbian.
[02:43] <skellat> So with canthus13 that gives us 4
[02:43] <Unit193> No need to !pingall...
[02:43] <canthus13> Eh. My kids use those machines. :)
[02:44] <Unit193> canthus13: Shuuuush, they'll never know! :P
[02:45] <skellat> I'll count Debian Testing & Unstable as the sharp points of the current development edge that exists outside the usual Ubuntu cadence
[02:45] <skellat> For now at least
[02:46] <skellat> Until Colin Watson gets the "current" back-end stuff running so you can have your very own *buntu Unstable
[02:47] <skellat> Unit193: The big push remains UbuCon at OLF
[02:48] <skellat> It has been promoted and I hope for at least tens of people
[02:48] <skellat> Maybe fives of people if things go haywire
[02:50] <skellat> Unit193: Are you going to write up a rationale for your proposed xubuntu-core seed?  Since we're after feature freeze a project on LP might need to be established where we can play with things and not mess with the currently used ones.
[02:53] <Unit193> Nope.
[02:54] <skellat> Okay then
[02:56]  * skellat wanders back to killing spam on lisnews.org
[03:00] <Unit193> I suppose technically you'd have to define "write up a rationale"...
[03:05] <skellat> Unit193: Explain in 250 words or less why you made the choices you did in cutting to produce that proposed xubuntu.core seed
[03:07] <Unit193> (Though of course this is the wrong channel.) Thought about putting comments on some of the changes.
[03:08] <skellat> That works
[03:08] <skellat> We'll save that for proper discussion in the proper channel another time though
[03:08]  * skellat disappears
[03:12] <Unit193> canthus13: So you moved across town?  How many people do you host on your server(s) anywho?
[03:12] <canthus13> about 6 or 7.
[03:13] <canthus13> ...and a bot.
[03:13] <Unit193> Shells+irssi/weechat mainly?
[03:13] <canthus13> and webspace.
[03:14] <Unit193> Ah, alrighty.
[03:15] <canthus13> At least one person uses botsync to back up their phone to it. :P
[03:15] <Unit193> Hah, nice.
[03:15] <Unit193> Well that works.
[03:16] <Unit193> Dang, GoDaddy and no private registration.
[03:16]  * canthus13 shrugs. I'm cheap.  and I haven't updated the addresses in years...
[03:17] <canthus13> Godaddy works fine for me.
[03:17]  * canthus13 sees no reason to pay someone 2 to 4 times what he pays just because they're not godaddy.
[03:18] <Unit193> BiosElement seems to like name.com, they don't seem that expensive.
[03:19] <Unit193> Even with the discount, http://en.gandi.net/ is higher than the alternatives...
[03:19] <jenni> [ Domain name registrar and VPS cloud hosting - Gandi.net ] - https://j.mp/14LzlL2
[18:27] <Unit193> gilbert: Howdy.
[19:51] <Unit193> Hrm, anyone know if there's something that explains the holdup for packages in Debian NEW?
[19:56] <skellat> Unit193: An FTP assistant hasn't looked it over perhaps.  Ping paultag or ScottK.
[19:57] <Unit193> Nah, not my package, just waiting for it to hit already... :P
[20:04] <paultag> hum?
[20:04] <paultag> Oh, hey
[20:04] <paultag> yeah, we're working hard, people just keep fucking uploading NEW packages all day
[20:04] <paultag> we're doing a lot now
[20:06] <Unit193> Hah, I'm not saying "Work faster, work faster!"  I know some things have a page with reasons something isn't out of proposed, for example.
[22:51] <skellat> Here's a bit of reading: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/xubuntu.saucy/_germinate_output
[22:51] <jenni> https://j.mp/17xpDhH