[00:51] yeah, one of mine won't even boot [00:52] Try Unity and Mir!11!! [00:59] * canthus13 just rebooted. [00:59] seemed simpler. [00:59] There goes uptime... [01:00] 20:59:53 up 192 days, 10:52, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.08 stiiill got it. :D [01:59] 192...meh [01:59] my colocated server is 198 ;) [01:59] haha, oh and my bsd router...737 days [02:00] and that's only because 2 years ago I was moving things and unplugged the wrong thing [02:20] Unit193: It's a laptop. and my uptime is low on my servers because I moved a month ago. [02:20] canthus13: Sorry, kidding of course. :P [02:20] ALl good. :) [02:21] no it's not [02:21] * canthus13 The Games thafreak. [02:21] FUUUUUU [02:21] I was just going to do that to you [02:21] heh. [02:21] you /b/tard [02:21] <- oldfag [02:22] seriously ;) [02:22] <- summerfag [02:22] heh. [02:22] THE GAME [02:22] eh. it' been less than 30 minutes. :P [02:26] * skellat is still filling out paperwork trying to get employed again [02:26] * Unit193 sets a cron to output "THE GAME" into here every 31 minutes. :D [02:26] * thafreak sets a cron to leave the room ever 29 minutes [02:26] \o/ [02:27] thafreak: Would still work, "Why did I leave? OH DANGIT!" :D [02:27] i'd forget [02:27] and if I were actually paying attention when it quit and re-joined, I'd start debugging things [02:28] maybe like hours and hours later, I'd remember [02:28] Unit193: Need to tie it into whatever kicks planet.u.c to Ubuntu. Purportedly it is when something processes on Launchpad but who knows... [02:29] s/to Ubuntu/to rebuild and reprocess/ [02:29] skellat meant to say: Unit193: Need to tie it into whatever kicks planet.u.c to rebuild and reprocess. Purportedly it is when something processes on Launchpad but who knows... [02:29] It has been a long day [02:30] Does anybody have reaction to this: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/08/30/re-energizing-loco-teams/ [02:30] [ Re-Energizing LoCo Teams | jonobacon@home ] - https://j.mp/14Lu7yV [02:30] I mainly ignore his blog, and the planet. :P [02:32] Unit193: During vUDS we had another round of Let's Reinvent The LoCo Paradigm. If it weren't for TWC crapping out on me the discussion would have been far more boisterous and I might have been yelling at Randall Ross a bit. [02:33] So good it cut out? :P [02:33] None of those really looked like it was something I couldn't live without. [02:33] The connection was so great here I couldn't even connect to the video call for longer than 1 second. [02:35] The drum is being beat toward converting LoCos into Special Interest Groups without any geographical basis or minimal membership [02:35] Meh. [02:35] Meanwhile the Approved/Unapproved LoCo thing has **finally** gone away [02:36] If I get things put together nicely we'll be a Verified Team by mid-September [02:37] In the new paradigm, most of the burden of being a Verified Team will actually fall on my shoulders alone as to any checklists that have to be cleared. [02:38] (They kind of just renamed it.) [02:38] **SMACK** [02:38] There are only three criteria points. [02:38] 1. The team exists in LP [02:38] 2. The team follows appropriate naming conventions [02:38] 3. The team contact has signed the CoC [02:39] I suppose my question is, how many people here still run *buntu*? [02:39] They build that into the health check [02:40] No, I'm wondering that now. [02:40] Though their proxy for that is by counting the number of Ubuntu Member persons your LoCo has as one barometer of health [02:40] Well, you and I run Xubuntu [02:40] That makes 2 [02:40] Darkwing is lurking from Indiana but he went over to Fedora a while ago [02:41] paultag is a Debian person [02:41] jenni is a bot [02:41] jacob is in WA [02:41] So, I'd be curious what canthus13 and thafreak were actually running [02:42] Beyond that, itsafork is running mainline which gives us 3 [02:43] Depends. I have 2 desktops with Ubuntu. (1 is 12.10 and the other is 13.04) 2 laptops running Mint (12 on one and 15 on the other), an 2 servers running debian. [02:43] Technically I have a laptop on Xubuntu 12.04, a BeagleBoard-xM on Debian Testing, and a Raspberry Pi on Raspbian. [02:43] So with canthus13 that gives us 4 [02:43] No need to !pingall... [02:43] Eh. My kids use those machines. :) [02:44] canthus13: Shuuuush, they'll never know! :P [02:45] I'll count Debian Testing & Unstable as the sharp points of the current development edge that exists outside the usual Ubuntu cadence [02:45] For now at least [02:46] Until Colin Watson gets the "current" back-end stuff running so you can have your very own *buntu Unstable [02:47] Unit193: The big push remains UbuCon at OLF [02:48] It has been promoted and I hope for at least tens of people [02:48] Maybe fives of people if things go haywire [02:50] Unit193: Are you going to write up a rationale for your proposed xubuntu-core seed? Since we're after feature freeze a project on LP might need to be established where we can play with things and not mess with the currently used ones. [02:53] Nope. [02:54] Okay then [02:56] * skellat wanders back to killing spam on lisnews.org [03:00] I suppose technically you'd have to define "write up a rationale"... [03:05] Unit193: Explain in 250 words or less why you made the choices you did in cutting to produce that proposed xubuntu.core seed [03:07] (Though of course this is the wrong channel.) Thought about putting comments on some of the changes. [03:08] That works [03:08] We'll save that for proper discussion in the proper channel another time though [03:08] * skellat disappears [03:12] canthus13: So you moved across town? How many people do you host on your server(s) anywho? [03:12] about 6 or 7. [03:13] ...and a bot. [03:13] Shells+irssi/weechat mainly? [03:13] and webspace. [03:14] Ah, alrighty. [03:15] At least one person uses botsync to back up their phone to it. :P [03:15] Hah, nice. [03:15] Well that works. [03:16] Dang, GoDaddy and no private registration. [03:16] * canthus13 shrugs. I'm cheap. and I haven't updated the addresses in years... [03:17] Godaddy works fine for me. [03:17] * canthus13 sees no reason to pay someone 2 to 4 times what he pays just because they're not godaddy. [03:18] BiosElement seems to like name.com, they don't seem that expensive. [03:19] Even with the discount, http://en.gandi.net/ is higher than the alternatives... [03:19] [ Domain name registrar and VPS cloud hosting - Gandi.net ] - https://j.mp/14LzlL2 [18:27] gilbert: Howdy. [19:51] Hrm, anyone know if there's something that explains the holdup for packages in Debian NEW? [19:56] Unit193: An FTP assistant hasn't looked it over perhaps. Ping paultag or ScottK. [19:57] Nah, not my package, just waiting for it to hit already... :P [20:04] hum? [20:04] Oh, hey [20:04] yeah, we're working hard, people just keep fucking uploading NEW packages all day [20:04] we're doing a lot now [20:06] Hah, I'm not saying "Work faster, work faster!" I know some things have a page with reasons something isn't out of proposed, for example. [22:51] Here's a bit of reading: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/xubuntu.saucy/_germinate_output [22:51] https://j.mp/17xpDhH