| Kilos | morning all | 06:05 |
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| kbmonkey | morning ZA | 06:52 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 09:12 |
| not_found | from the official IRC logs there has been two messages the whole day from here... so I will add one more... Hello :p | 09:27 |
| Kilos | morning not_found | 09:28 |
| not_found | how are you today uncle Kilos? | 09:28 |
| Kilos | some peeps on #linux-studies too | 09:28 |
| Kilos | im good ty not_found and you? just cold again here | 09:28 |
| Kilos | wind coming off the snow on the berg | 09:29 |
| not_found | I'm OK thanks... | 09:33 |
| not_found | nice and sunny here :p | 09:33 |
| * Kilos jealous | 09:33 | |
| not_found | and with nice and sunny |I mean hot as hell | 09:50 |
| not_found | ;) | 09:50 |
| Kilos | sigh | 09:51 |
| Kilos | sis just got some weather thing on tablet, says it is 11°c but feels like 9°c | 09:52 |
| Kilos | wind very cold | 09:52 |
| Kilos | and thats midday | 09:52 |
| not_found | k... 9 degC sucks but at least not going down to 0... | 09:57 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 09:57 |
| kbmonkey | :D | 09:57 |
| Kilos | ai! | 09:57 |
| kbmonkey | man I really hate this xfce open dialogue | 09:57 |
| * not_found needs to go again... bbl | 09:58 | |
| Kilos | to make the degrees goodie i use compose key and double click o | 09:58 |
| Kilos | at least something ive remembered | 09:58 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 10:04 |
| charl | good afternoon all | 10:27 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 10:27 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 10:27 | |
| Kilos | hi charl | 10:27 |
| charl | hi Kilos, kbmonkey | 10:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 10:30 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Sure | 10:30 |
| Kilos | Maaz, rusks please | 10:30 |
| Maaz | behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos | 10:30 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! | 10:31 |
| Kilos | Maaz, gracias | 10:31 |
| Maaz | Kilos: ¡de nada! | 10:31 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 10:36 |
| Maaz | charl: No problem | 10:36 |
| charl | delicious, rusks, i haven't had those in ages | 10:36 |
| charl | i don't think they sell those in europe | 10:36 |
| Kilos | wow | 10:37 |
| Kilos | do they make buttermilk breads and buns | 10:37 |
| Kilos | then you can make your own rusks | 10:38 |
| charl | i don't think so | 10:38 |
| Kilos | google bakeries man | 10:38 |
| charl | in NL and DE we have a ridiculous variety of baked goods | 10:38 |
| charl | just not that :P | 10:38 |
| charl | by the way, i was just wondering | 10:39 |
| charl | do any of you people use rtorrent? | 10:39 |
| charl | the headless bittorrent client | 10:39 |
| Kilos | that sucks. coffee and rusks be lekker | 10:39 |
| charl | i just discovered a really strange thing, when i finish downloading a torrent it immediately stops seeding | 10:39 |
| charl | then i stop the torrent, start it back up again, and immediately it starts seeding again | 10:39 |
| charl | that without any custom configuration | 10:40 |
| charl | Kilos: in germany they have these coffee pastries, really delicious with coffee | 10:40 |
| charl | i should go across the border and buy a few again | 10:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:41 |
| charl | transmission is probably the worst bittorrent client of all times | 10:46 |
| charl | it constantly keeps thrasing the disk | 10:46 |
| charl | even when seeding | 10:46 |
| charl | ktorrent is actually a really powerful client | 10:46 |
| Kilos | explain seeding please | 10:47 |
| Kilos | Maaz, define seeding | 10:48 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Seed \Seed\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Seeded}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Seeding}.] 1. To sprinkle with seed; to plant seeds in; to sow; as, to seed a field. [1913 Webster] 2. To cover thinly with something scattered; to ornament with seedlike decorations. [1913 Webster] A sable mantle seeded with waking eyes. --B. Jonson. [1913 Webster] {To seed down}, to sow with | 10:48 |
| Maaz | grass seed. [1913 Webster] | 10:48 |
| charl | is when you upload data to other people | 10:48 |
| charl | other people who are downloading the torrent you already downloaded | 10:48 |
| charl | or you have partially downloaded | 10:48 |
| Kilos | oh i see | 10:48 |
| Kilos | torrent is using many download palces for on download right? | 10:48 |
| Kilos | places | 10:49 |
| charl | yes it's a distributed content distribution system | 10:49 |
| Kilos | like splitting the download | 10:49 |
| charl | the idea that each person downloads and uploads to others | 10:49 |
| charl | you could say that yes | 10:49 |
| charl | for example, crunchbang is only distributed via bittorrent (last i checked) | 10:49 |
| charl | and it's nice to contribute by seeding it again for others | 10:50 |
| Kilos | so seeding is your bit its feeding? | 10:50 |
| charl | yes | 10:50 |
| Kilos | yeah i remember i downloaded crunchband and it was very fast download | 10:50 |
| charl | yes i downloaded it at work, i got about 70MBps download | 10:50 |
| Kilos | wow | 10:51 |
| charl | that's megabyte, not megabit | 10:51 |
| Kilos | i understand B as to b | 10:51 |
| charl | yup | 10:51 |
| Kilos | 1 byte = 8 bits | 10:51 |
| charl | i'm on gigabit ethernet but i was quite surprised myself because mostly if you download via http it's around 20-30MBps from the internet | 10:52 |
| Kilos | whew | 10:52 |
| charl | exactly so we're talking around 7*8=560mbps | 10:52 |
| charl | plus protocol overhead | 10:52 |
| charl | there's also latency and packet loss and a whole lot of things that contribute to speed | 10:53 |
| Kilos | and per sec normally written /s | 10:53 |
| charl | depends on who you ask :) | 10:53 |
| Kilos | i dont ask i see output when downloading or upgrading | 10:54 |
| charl | but that's acceptable yes | 10:54 |
| charl | lol | 10:54 |
| Kilos | i watch whole thing | 10:54 |
| Kilos | i enjoy watching upgrade details | 10:55 |
| Kilos | you see the tiny and large packages | 10:55 |
| kbmonkey | am back | 10:55 |
| Kilos | wb kbmonkey | 10:55 |
| kbmonkey | thanks | 10:57 |
| * psychicist is back from Polish class and the supermarket, it's time for putting pizza into the oven now | 10:58 | |
| psychicist | hi charl | 10:58 |
| psychicist | hi Snowy | 10:58 |
| psychicist | these three users even exist, Time back oven | 10:59 |
| kbmonkey | hmm pizza | 11:01 |
| charl | hi psychicist | 11:06 |
| kbmonkey | so pyweek starts in 12 hours | 11:08 |
| kbmonkey | who in here wants to code a python game in 7 days? | 11:08 |
| Kilos | pyweek? | 11:08 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:08 |
| kbmonkey | entrants to write a game in one week from scratch either as an individual or in a team | 11:09 |
| Kilos | whew you need peeps like fly and weed on your team | 11:10 |
| Kilos | but they aint go time | 11:10 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 11:10 |
| Kilos | didnt see you pop in | 11:11 |
| kbmonkey | man I need to get some food in this place | 11:24 |
| charl | do any of you people know much about alsa and using it with a window manager like i3 | 11:25 |
| charl | i am having a really irritating problem | 11:25 |
| charl | every time i unplug my headphones from my laptop my speaker sound is set to mute | 11:25 |
| charl | and i can't get it unmuted except by opening alsamixer | 11:26 |
| charl | previously while running kde4 i could just increase my volume again in the normal fashion by using fn+left and right arrow keys | 11:26 |
| Kilos | dont unplug headfones | 11:26 |
| charl | nah man i don't want to wear them all the time :P | 11:27 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:27 |
| kbmonkey | that is weird charl | 11:27 |
| charl | it's sweaty in the summer | 11:27 |
| charl | it's hot now | 11:27 |
| charl | yeah kbmonkey | 11:27 |
| kbmonkey | lag | 11:27 |
| Kilos | use external speakers | 11:28 |
| kbmonkey | as in ping lag not lol | 11:28 |
| kbmonkey | hmm, must be a config issue | 11:28 |
| charl | in my ~/.i3/config i have the following two lines | 11:28 |
| charl | bindsym XF86AudioRaiseVolume exec amixer -q set Master 2dB+ unmute | 11:28 |
| charl | bindsym XF86AudioLowerVolume exec amixer -q set Master 2dB- unmute | 11:28 |
| kbmonkey | could be a bug | 11:28 |
| charl | i don't have a mute/unmute button on my laptop | 11:28 |
| charl | at work i have a mute/unmute button on my keyboard and i use an additional line | 11:29 |
| charl | bindsym XF86AudioMute exec amixer -q -D pulse set Master 1+ toggle | 11:29 |
| charl | that works fine | 11:29 |
| kbmonkey | what version of alsa is it charl? | 11:29 |
| charl | latest version with ubuntu 13.04, lemme check | 11:29 |
| charl | amixer version 1.0.25 | 11:29 |
| kbmonkey | my laptop with headphones does not auto mute on unplug | 11:30 |
| charl | i don't mind it i just want to be able to recover it again without opening alsamixer | 11:30 |
| charl | amixer doesn't do the job | 11:30 |
| charl | unmute doesn't work | 11:31 |
| charl | alsamixer works as expected though | 11:31 |
| charl | it must have something to do with amixer in other words | 11:31 |
| charl | i have googled around but couldn't find a solution yet | 11:31 |
| kbmonkey | try "amixer set Master toggle" | 11:33 |
| kbmonkey | hello?.. | 11:33 |
| kbmonkey | hang on.. restting 3g... | 11:33 |
| charl | yes i tried that but didn't work | 11:33 |
| kbmonkey | does it toggle mute if you keep alsamixer in a oen window? | 11:34 |
| kbmonkey | open | 11:34 |
| charl | actually, muting works, it's just the unmute | 11:34 |
| charl | it mutes it but doesn't unmute | 11:34 |
| kbmonkey | it mutes and unutes each time | 11:34 |
| charl | nah first time it mutes fine but then second time it does nothing | 11:35 |
| charl | just keeps it muted | 11:35 |
| kbmonkey | that is bizarre | 11:36 |
| charl | if i unmute it with alsamixer it mutes it again | 11:36 |
| kbmonkey | so alsamixer shows it as unuted? | 11:36 |
| charl | but then keeps it muted doesn't matter how many times i toggle | 11:36 |
| charl | no alsamixer shows it as muted | 11:36 |
| kbmonkey | but it does not unmute | 11:36 |
| kbmonkey | with amixer | 11:36 |
| charl | yes precisely | 11:36 |
| charl | but i mean in the two above keyboard bindings it should unmute it in any case | 11:37 |
| charl | the minute i adjust the volume | 11:37 |
| charl | hey wait a minute | 11:38 |
| charl | this does work: amixer -q -D pulse set Master 1+ toggle | 11:38 |
| charl | sorry lemme just try something | 11:38 |
| kbmonkey | not sure why you have +1 in there | 11:39 |
| charl | ok found the problem, i need -D pulse | 11:39 |
| charl | that makes the difference | 11:39 |
| kbmonkey | was about to suggest you run amixer sscontrols to see the list of devices :D | 11:39 |
| charl | yeah i can take that out | 11:39 |
| kbmonkey | bha humbug. laggy typing | 11:40 |
| kbmonkey | but you had -D pulse in your first command. how is that different? | 11:40 |
| charl | no only in the toggle | 11:41 |
| charl | in the volume up/down i didn't have that | 11:41 |
| charl | i'll experiment with putting that in, that might solve the problem | 11:41 |
| kbmonkey | ah :) | 11:42 |
| charl | the toggle i use at work because my keyboard has a mute button | 11:42 |
| charl | i don't have that on my laptop | 11:42 |
| kbmonkey | ideally it should auto unmute, hey ;) | 11:42 |
| charl | never realised that could be the issue until now | 11:42 |
| charl | yeah it's very strange | 11:42 |
| kbmonkey | sounds like a bug | 11:42 |
| charl | probably is yes | 11:43 |
| charl | ok well at least now i understand the problem (to some extent) so we made some progress | 11:43 |
| charl | thanks for the help :) | 11:43 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey, Telkom Mobile has rolled out over 1500 WiFi hotspots, offering an hour of usage to anyone. | 11:45 |
| Kilos | http://www.facebook.com/l/VAQG1NEwn/technology.iafrica.com/news/technology/877574.html | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | yw charl ! | 11:45 |
| Kilos | maybe you lucky | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | looks like quiete a few people have that issue | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | quite* | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | only 1 hour of internet ? bah humbug | 11:49 |
| kbmonkey | I need 1x24 hours of internets :) | 11:49 |
| Kilos | lol i have 10g wifi data that for some reason just doesnt expire | 11:49 |
| Kilos | came with topups free 2g a time | 11:50 |
| Kilos | but you should chaeck if you get the connection man. isnt wifi cheaper than mobile | 11:51 |
| kbmonkey | its not much of price but stability - these 2g things go up and down like a yoyo | 11:53 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 11:53 |
| charl | in NL the biggest cable company (ziggo) came out with a service that turned every cable modem into a wifi hotspot | 11:53 |
| charl | but it's only available for use by other ziggo customers | 11:53 |
| charl | it went wrong on my router though so i disabled it | 11:54 |
| charl | good idea but bad execution it seems | 11:54 |
| charl | i have the ubee evw3200 which is one of the most standard cable modems around here | 11:55 |
| charl | had to reset the thing a dozen times to get my connection working properly again after disabling wifispots | 11:55 |
| kbmonkey | eish. seems like technology is a monster unto itself! | 11:57 |
| kbmonkey | it's own worst enemy, hehe | 11:57 |
| charl | i just blame it on lack of testing and bad execution | 11:58 |
| charl | i just want my connection to work, i don't care about the rest :) | 11:58 |
| kbmonkey | yes! | 11:58 |
| charl | i'm quite happy with the dell optiplex i have at work | 12:01 |
| charl | apparently it uses less than 20 watt during idle | 12:02 |
| charl | and the cpu temperature remains at a constant 21 degrees irrespective of the load | 12:02 |
| charl | that's cool to the touch, impressive | 12:02 |
| charl | my laptop runs a little hotter, at around 50 degrees | 12:04 |
| charl | but it's also a laptop :P | 12:04 |
| kbmonkey | does the optiplex have a ssd drive? | 12:05 |
| charl | no regular magnetic disks | 12:07 |
| charl | 2x internal 1x external connected via usb 3.0 (for backups) | 12:07 |
| kbmonkey | wow it runs very cool then! | 12:08 |
| charl | first is about half a terabyte (main system disk) and second is a terabyte (data disk) | 12:08 |
| charl | and then 2TB for backups | 12:08 |
| kbmonkey | the pyweek theme is only announces at 2am local time. | 12:08 |
| charl | the hard drives run slightly hotter at around 40 degrees each | 12:08 |
| kbmonkey | maybe I will wake up at 4am to get going on that | 12:09 |
| kbmonkey | someone is doing wheel spins outside again | 12:09 |
| kbmonkey | they do this any time of day or night | 12:10 |
| charl | barbarians | 12:10 |
| kbmonkey | petrol heads | 12:10 |
| charl | benzinkopfen | 12:12 |
| kbmonkey | benzin! what a good song! | 12:14 |
| charl | rammstein? | 12:14 |
| kbmonkey | saw Rammstein perform that live. it was great. | 12:14 |
| kbmonkey | so much of fire on stage! | 12:14 |
| charl | yeah they are known for their special effects | 12:15 |
| kbmonkey | its one show Id want to see again | 12:15 |
| charl | never saw an actual performance of them but the videos are cool | 12:15 |
| charl | didn't they also perform in some movie? | 12:15 |
| kbmonkey | not that I know of.. | 12:15 |
| charl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XXX_%28film%29 | 12:16 |
| charl | knew it was some movie with vin diesel | 12:16 |
| charl | just forgot the name | 12:16 |
| charl | they opened, i thought it was also with big amounts of fire, i thought it was feuer frei | 12:17 |
| charl | yes ! i remember right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feuer_frei! | 12:18 |
| charl | "The song is featured in the film xXx, it is also featured during the CSI episode "Slaves of Las Vegas"." | 12:18 |
| kbmonkey | xxx is such a porno film title | 12:18 |
| charl | i thought so too | 12:18 |
| charl | maybe that was what they were going for | 12:19 |
| charl | now you must go google for "xxx film" and be careful what results you pull :P | 12:19 |
| kbmonkey | ah no worries I google that all the time! | 12:19 |
| charl | lol | 12:20 |
| kbmonkey | jokes | 12:20 |
| charl | a friend told me to google "japanese newsreader" once | 12:20 |
| charl | i thought what could be wrong with that right | 12:20 |
| charl | be careful when you include japanese in anything | 12:20 |
| kbmonkey | lol! yes it is a alien culture indeed | 12:21 |
| kbmonkey | like my sister telling me of this prank involving velociraptors | 12:21 |
| kbmonkey | http://io9.com/this-terrifying-raptor-chase-is-the-most-traumatic-pran-1210483692 | 12:22 |
| charl | oh yes | 12:22 |
| charl | i saw that actually | 12:23 |
| kbmonkey | that guy must have peep himself. lol | 12:23 |
| charl | it was on the front page of youtube in fact at one point | 12:23 |
| charl | no but seriously that thing looks realistic | 12:23 |
| kbmonkey | ah. I dont visit youtube much - must have missed it | 12:23 |
| charl | like it just came out of a movie or something | 12:23 |
| kbmonkey | it so well done! only the second time did I notice the man legs underneath it :p | 12:24 |
| charl | yes me too i thought what has animatronics gone this far already | 12:24 |
| kbmonkey | its RMS in JHB today | 12:24 |
| charl | isn't software freedom day over more than two weeks? | 12:26 |
| kbmonkey | this is not software freedom day, only the RMS tour thingy | 12:27 |
| charl | oh i see | 12:27 |
| kbmonkey | unfortunately his schedule does not coincide with SFD | 12:27 |
| kbmonkey | but he does talk about it | 12:27 |
| charl | seems to be on 21 september this year according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Day | 12:28 |
| charl | doesn't matter | 12:28 |
| charl | it would be interesting to hear him talk | 12:28 |
| charl | will somebody upload a video? | 12:28 |
| kbmonkey | apparently they will be recording it | 12:29 |
| kbmonkey | notably with non-free codecs. he must be furious about that :D | 12:29 |
| charl | lol and upload it to youtube instead of bittorrent :P | 12:31 |
| charl | hi Cantide | 12:33 |
| charl | how's it going | 12:33 |
| Cantide | hello '< | 12:33 |
| Cantide | it is going well :) | 12:33 |
| Cantide | what about you? | 12:33 |
| charl | good good | 12:34 |
| Cantide | :3 | 12:34 |
| charl | how's it going with your korean | 12:34 |
| Cantide | not too great :p | 12:34 |
| Cantide | it will improve when i get there :) | 12:34 |
| Cantide | which should be in about 4 weeks | 12:35 |
| Cantide | '< | 12:35 |
| charl | yes exactly | 12:35 |
| charl | oh great ! | 12:35 |
| charl | is this a one-way ticket? | 12:35 |
| Cantide | yeah~~ i got a job in Seoul | 12:35 |
| Cantide | i don't know yet | 12:35 |
| Cantide | the employer will provide the ticket | 12:35 |
| charl | oh i see | 12:35 |
| Cantide | just waiting for it now | 12:35 |
| charl | sounds great | 12:35 |
| Cantide | but i think i need a return ticket | 12:35 |
| Cantide | as my visa will be for a year, which i can extend | 12:35 |
| charl | that's strange | 12:36 |
| Cantide | why? | 12:36 |
| charl | they shouldn't require a return ticket then | 12:36 |
| Cantide | well, after a year i need to get out | 12:36 |
| Cantide | so i think they need assurance of that | 12:36 |
| kbmonkey | hello Cantide | 12:36 |
| Cantide | but then i can go straight back and get another visa :p | 12:36 |
| charl | who books a flight a year in advance | 12:36 |
| Cantide | hey kbmonkey :) | 12:36 |
| Cantide | ah, right | 12:36 |
| kbmonkey | okay.. Im gonna try compile sfml now... holds fingers | 12:36 |
| Cantide | so i'm not sure about the return trip and when it'll be :p | 12:36 |
| Kilos | im sure you can just go out and back in | 12:36 |
| Kilos | maybe next day | 12:37 |
| Cantide | Kilos, yes, that is correct :p | 12:37 |
| Kilos | just go to neighbours and back | 12:37 |
| Kilos | no need to come all the way here | 12:37 |
| Cantide | i might just hop over to Japan, see my brother and then go back :p | 12:37 |
| Kilos | yeah | 12:37 |
| Cantide | yup | 12:37 |
| Cantide | but this isn't an immediate concern, so i haven't looked into it much :p | 12:37 |
| charl | oh i still want to go to japan at some point | 12:37 |
| charl | i think you can even take a ferry from korea to japan | 12:38 |
| Cantide | cool :) | 12:38 |
| Cantide | yeah, it's close | 12:38 |
| charl | i looked at it a couple of years back | 12:38 |
| Cantide | from Busan I assume | 12:38 |
| charl | i wanted to go to s.korea then take a ferry to japan and fly back from japan | 12:38 |
| Cantide | but i don't know which city in Japan it would go to | 12:38 |
| charl | never went through with it though | 12:38 |
| Kilos | does the ferry take you through customs | 12:38 |
| Cantide | charl, sounds like a nice trip :) | 12:38 |
| Cantide | Kilos, probably | 12:39 |
| Kilos | thats all they wanna see, customs out then back | 12:39 |
| charl | you should be able to take the train from there (i assume) | 12:39 |
| Cantide | train from where to where? | 12:39 |
| charl | i would go to kyoto, tokyo and osaka probably | 12:39 |
| charl | maybe some other large cities | 12:39 |
| Cantide | oh right | 12:39 |
| Cantide | yeah, kyoto has been on my bucket list for ages :) | 12:39 |
| Cantide | and tokyo now :p | 12:39 |
| Cantide | my brother is in Saitama, so seeing Tokyo will be easy with him | 12:40 |
| charl | tokyo has akihabara, the otaku capital of the world | 12:40 |
| Cantide | yup :) | 12:41 |
| Cantide | my brother is often there looking for gadgets | 12:41 |
| charl | can't pass up an opportunity to buy some manga and doujinshi | 12:41 |
| Cantide | what's doujinshi? | 12:41 |
| charl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C5%8Djinshi | 12:41 |
| Cantide | oh, nice :D | 12:42 |
| charl | for the "alternative minded" you can also get goods like a dakimakura http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakimakura | 12:43 |
| charl | for the "forever alone" i mean :D | 12:43 |
| Cantide | oh, hahaha | 12:43 |
| charl | there are a bunch of other things you can buy which i will not mention on this channel because it all goes downhill from there | 12:44 |
| charl | :P | 12:44 |
| Cantide | haha | 12:45 |
| Cantide | maybe that's why my brother likes akihabara :p | 12:45 |
| charl | lol you never know what you mind find coming out of the closet when you visit his house :P | 12:46 |
| charl | *might | 12:46 |
| Cantide | looooooooooooool | 12:47 |
| Cantide | yeah, now i'm scared to go there :p | 12:47 |
| kbmonkey | hmm who mentioned pizza? I am hungary :D | 12:56 |
| charl | Cantide: here's what i'm talking about http://www.dannychoo.com/en/post/27033/Akihabara+Shops+10.html | 12:57 |
| Cantide | scooter's honey mustard pizza is a winner :p | 12:57 |
| * Cantide clicks | 12:57 | |
| charl | a few things are blocked out, for a reason :P | 12:57 |
| charl | oh yes i want a pizza now too | 12:57 |
| charl | i am going to go out to get food shortly anyway | 12:57 |
| kbmonkey | I want a pepper and mushroom pizza | 12:58 |
| kbmonkey | good idea, actually need to go to the shops anyway | 12:59 |
| charl | i usually go for sundried tomato, mozarella cheese and a lot of cayenne | 12:59 |
| charl | *mozzarella | 12:59 |
| kbmonkey | who is general failure, and why is he reading my disk?! | 13:02 |
| charl | lol | 13:03 |
| charl | who is peer and why does he keep resetting my connection | 13:03 |
| Cantide | charl, really cool figurines! :D | 13:04 |
| charl | yup that's only the start though :P | 13:07 |
| kbmonkey | haha | 13:07 |
| charl | but if you are looking to visit japan though, there is a _huge_ amount of photos and info on that site | 13:07 |
| Cantide | heh | 13:10 |
| Cantide | i'm not too much into anime and that kind of thing anymore | 13:10 |
| Cantide | more interested in nature and temples | 13:10 |
| Cantide | and then a few skyscrapers and electronics on the way :p | 13:10 |
| charl | http://www.dannychoo.com/en/posts/category/visit | 13:12 |
| * Cantide clicks | 13:12 | |
| charl | another place i definitely want to visit is shibuya | 13:13 |
| charl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibuya,_Tokyo | 13:13 |
| Cantide | i was just looking at that :D | 13:13 |
| Cantide | yeah, Shibuya looks cool | 13:13 |
| charl | and ginza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginza | 13:13 |
| charl | this also looks good http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikebukuro | 13:14 |
| charl | oh and in the night most definitely roppongi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roppongi | 13:15 |
| charl | that's in and around tokyo but there are also some other nice cities like yokohama http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokohama | 13:16 |
| Cantide | yeah :D Japan has a lot to see | 13:20 |
| Cantide | would be nice to go there a few times :) | 13:20 |
| charl | ok enough internet touring | 13:20 |
| charl | i need to leave the house to do shopping ... :) | 13:20 |
| Cantide | I'll probably live in Sinchon in Seoul, and work in Yeouido :p | 13:20 |
| Cantide | ah | 13:20 |
| Cantide | enjoy :p | 13:20 |
| Cantide | going to Akihabara? :p | 13:20 |
| charl | lol no that's a bit far | 13:20 |
| charl | more like the local albert heijn and the town market | 13:20 |
| charl | bbl | 13:21 |
| Cantide | :D | 13:22 |
| kbmonkey | I need shopping too, lol | 14:27 |
| kbmonkey | a pity there are no night stores here! | 14:27 |
| charl | kbmonkey: what for a timezone are you in | 14:38 |
| charl | oh, and back :) | 14:39 |
| charl | and bought a pizza! | 14:39 |
| Kilos | hi JoTraGo | 15:18 |
| Kilos | wb snowy | 15:22 |
| Kilos | hi nocware you winning? | 15:29 |
| nocware | Everything is fine Kilos. | 15:32 |
| charl | hi nocware | 15:33 |
| Kilos | great well done | 15:33 |
| nocware | Sup charl | 15:33 |
| nocware | Btw Kilos do u mind giving me that manual link again? | 15:35 |
| Kilos | np | 15:35 |
| nocware | Ok. | 15:37 |
| Kilos | im just trying to find it | 15:37 |
| nocware | That's fine | 15:39 |
| Kilos | http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/sites/default/files/LPIManual_v_09.pdf | 15:39 |
| kbmonkey | charl, I am in +2 timezone | 15:44 |
| charl | oh ok :0 | 15:44 |
| charl | :) | 15:44 |
| Kilos | he be a banana boy | 15:44 |
| kbmonkey | XD | 15:48 |
| Kilos | they fighting hard at the moment against them vaalies | 15:48 |
| Kilos | nocware, did you see the link | 15:55 |
| Kilos | ? | 15:55 |
| nocware | Yes Kilos | 16:10 |
| Kilos | cool | 16:10 |
| Kilos | yay sharks win | 16:50 |
| theblazehen | Hey guys! Just got back from SFD! | 16:54 |
| Kilos | wb | 16:55 |
| theblazehen | ty Kilos | 16:55 |
| charl | hi theblazehen | 16:57 |
| charl | how was it theblazehen | 16:57 |
| charl | pics or it didn't happen :) | 16:57 |
| charl | we want to see the evidence | 16:57 |
| theblazehen | Great :) | 16:58 |
| charl | wow you had your one early | 16:58 |
| charl | the official one is only on the 21st | 16:58 |
| theblazehen | Only have a pic of RMS. Normal camera on phone wont work | 16:58 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 16:58 |
| theblazehen | And phone dead | 16:58 |
| charl | bah | 16:58 |
| charl | in amsterdam it's also a week early | 16:58 |
| charl | haven't decided whether i'm going yet or not | 16:59 |
| charl | it's far from here - about 2,5 hours on the train | 16:59 |
| Kilos | ai! | 16:59 |
| Kilos | too far | 16:59 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 16:59 |
| charl | i've done the trip a lot but i have to have motivation | 16:59 |
| charl | let's see how the weather looks on the 18th | 16:59 |
| theblazehen | Richard stallman is awesome :) | 17:03 |
| charl | i can't wait to see the recording | 17:06 |
| charl | please ping me with the url when you have it | 17:06 |
| theblazehen | will do | 17:07 |
| kbmonkey | cool theblazehen :D | 17:11 |
| kbmonkey | did he rip anyone apart for asking a question? ;) | 17:11 |
| theblazehen | Nope :( | 17:11 |
| charl | is he that terrible? | 17:12 |
| kbmonkey | he is known to do that and must be a sight to witness | 17:12 |
| theblazehen | Yeah :) | 17:12 |
| kbmonkey | only when the question deserves it of course! | 17:12 |
| theblazehen | I need to find a video on -youtube- I mean online | 17:12 |
| theblazehen | True kbmonkey | 17:12 |
| kbmonkey | he is just very passionate is all. | 17:13 |
| kbmonkey | I'd rather have him than steve balmer ha ha | 17:13 |
| theblazehen | I saw :D | 17:13 |
| theblazehen | Even convinced my friend to use retroshare | 17:13 |
| charl | i've never used that either | 17:15 |
| charl | retroshare | 17:15 |
| theblazehen | Basically friend to friend network | 17:15 |
| charl | i need to try it | 17:16 |
| charl | i am using xmpp right now for instant messaging | 17:16 |
| theblazehen | With chatrooms, forums, file sharing, and private messaging | 17:16 |
| charl | sounds good | 17:16 |
| theblazehen | charl, if you do, you can add my key | 17:16 |
| charl | ok lemme put it on my list for the coming week | 17:16 |
| theblazehen | ok | 17:16 |
| charl | i'll ping you when i have it set up | 17:16 |
| theblazehen | awesome | 17:17 |
| charl | it's decentralised - does that mean you need a static ip? | 17:18 |
| charl | or does it have some centralised tracker? | 17:18 |
| theblazehen | Nah, not sure how it does it, but most of my friends have dynamic | 17:19 |
| theblazehen | and it uses DHT | 17:19 |
| theblazehen | distributed hash tables | 17:19 |
| charl | hmmm i'm curious about how the protocol works | 17:20 |
| charl | DHT is great but you need a starting point | 17:20 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, maybe when IP changes, you connect to friends with old IP, and tell them of new IP | 17:21 |
| charl | yeah but what if you go offline and all of your friends ips change | 17:23 |
| charl | these fully distributed networks give me some concerns | 17:23 |
| charl | but maybe i need to understand it better | 17:24 |
| theblazehen | yeah, well I never had problems | 17:24 |
| charl | yeah sorry i'm just one of those people i want to try and understand how everything works :) | 17:26 |
| theblazehen | Same here :D | 17:26 |
| kbmonkey | think I heard of retroshare before, | 17:28 |
| kbmonkey | is that where content is distributed across an encrypted network eh | 17:28 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 17:29 |
| theblazehen | but only friend to friend | 17:29 |
| theblazehen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists wow... | 17:31 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 17:31 |
| kbmonkey | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Recursion | 17:33 |
| charl | lol | 17:35 |
| kbmonkey | so retroshare is a UI wrapper for pgp | 17:35 |
| kbmonkey | with protocals for transferring data | 17:35 |
| kbmonkey | err, protocols | 17:35 |
| charl | i think it's a little more complicated than that | 17:35 |
| charl | i am interested in how the peer discovery works though | 17:36 |
| charl | that has always been the most tricky part in any distributed effort | 17:36 |
| theblazehen | kbmonkey, sorta | 17:36 |
| kbmonkey | with added bling :) | 17:36 |
| theblazehen | charl, yeah me too. If you find a good explanation, let me know? | 17:36 |
| charl | i was watching the p2p-dns initiative a few years back | 17:36 |
| charl | it was one of the most active channels on efnet at the time | 17:37 |
| charl | but met an early demise | 17:37 |
| theblazehen | charl, like namecoin? | 17:37 |
| charl | haven't properly looked at namecoin yet | 17:37 |
| theblazehen | ah ok | 17:37 |
| theblazehen | I'm gonna need to | 17:37 |
| theblazehen | Awesome speaker at SFD has a .name site | 17:38 |
| charl | i'm looking at the wiki and it seems like it is using a combination of upnp and dht | 17:46 |
| charl | if you don't have upnp you need to either configure port forwarding manually | 17:46 |
| charl | or you need to make use of the relay servers | 17:47 |
| charl | the german wikipedia article mentions relays, not even the english wikipedia page | 17:48 |
| charl | "Unterstützung von Relay, diese funktionieren ähnlich wie ein Proxy, optimal um eine dichte Firewall zu umgehen." | 17:48 |
| kbmonkey | count von Relay - :D | 17:49 |
| kbmonkey | I know the words but the concepts elude me | 17:49 |
| charl | it means support of relay, this functions as a proxy in order to go past a closed firewall | 17:51 |
| charl | i don't see any mention of stun | 17:52 |
| kbmonkey | so your pc can initiate connections? | 17:52 |
| charl | no it's because you can't connect directly between two hosts | 17:52 |
| charl | i hate firewalls and nat | 17:52 |
| charl | i want ipv6 :) | 17:53 |
| kbmonkey | maybe we should start with the networking section in the LPI ;) | 17:53 |
| charl | stun was developed just to get past nat routing | 17:54 |
| charl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN | 17:55 |
| charl | retroshare uses upnp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play | 17:56 |
| kbmonkey | that is interesting | 17:57 |
| charl | that in turn uses this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Gateway_Device_Protocol | 17:57 |
| theblazehen | Interesting. | 18:10 |
| theblazehen | I hate going on wikipedia trips :( | 18:10 |
| theblazehen | At least when I have stuff to do | 18:11 |
| kbmonkey | really feel like going to bed already, heh | 18:19 |
| charl | lol | 18:19 |
| charl | this is also quite interesting: http://www.maketecheasier.com/how-bittorrent-dht-peer-discovery-works/2013/06/14 | 18:20 |
| charl | the main problem is bootstrapping | 18:20 |
| charl | that's where you need to connect to a known host to get the first few peers | 18:20 |
| charl | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9451424/where-can-i-find-a-list-of-bittorent-dht-bootstrap-nodes | 18:21 |
| charl | that's the only part that isn't fully dynamic and distributed | 18:22 |
| charl | but you need it | 18:22 |
| charl | bah peer again | 18:25 |
| adeebnqo | Hello everybody | 18:37 |
| charl | hi adeebnqo | 18:39 |
| adeebnqo | howzit? | 18:39 |
| charl | good you | 18:40 |
| adeebnqo | awesome. do you have any experience with cinnamon on ubuntu? my interface has been hanging alot these days -- was just wondering what could possibly be the reason | 18:42 |
| charl | only experimented with it but haven't used it on a day-to-day basis | 18:43 |
| charl | my experience has been that it is not terribly stable (yet) | 18:43 |
| adeebnqo | oh ok, thnx. | 18:46 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:55 |
| adeebnqo | ehy | 18:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: lekker koud vanaand? | 19:06 |
| magespawn | Good evening | 19:22 |
| Kilos | skuus man inetpro ek was vas aan die slaap onder die komberse | 19:52 |
| Kilos | vrek koud | 19:52 |
| inetpro | ai! :-) | 19:52 |
| inetpro | geen probleem meneer | 19:52 |
| inetpro | is baie koud ja | 19:52 |
| * inetpro was heeldag sonder krag | 19:53 | |
| inetpro | wel eintlik al van gister 13:00 al | 19:53 |
| Kilos | i dont often take an hour to answer | 19:54 |
| Kilos | ai! dis sleg | 19:54 |
| inetpro | darem weer vanaf 20:00 aan | 19:54 |
| inetpro | maar eers nadat ek gekla het by 'n vriend wat iemand ken | 19:56 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:56 |
| inetpro | fuse was by my paal geblaas | 19:56 |
| Kilos | jou pc eet te veel krag | 19:57 |
| magespawn | Hey Kilos Inetpro | 19:57 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 19:57 |
| inetpro | nee man, gister se skielike wind gewees | 19:57 |
| Kilos | ja ons krag was 2 keer vir dire ure af van daai wind | 19:58 |
| Kilos | baie kwaai wind | 19:58 |
| Kilos | tot groen moerbye van boom af gewaai | 19:58 |
| Kilos | en as jy probeer nie rypes plug dan sukkel jy | 19:59 |
| inetpro | hi magespawn | 19:59 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sjoe | 20:00 |
| Kilos | gaan dit anders goed daar inetpro | 20:00 |
| Kilos | jy nog gesond? en familie | 20:01 |
| inetpro | geen klagtes nie dankie | 20:01 |
| inetpro | was eintlik 'n lekker dag vandag, net koud | 20:01 |
| Kilos | ja ek het rukke gaan le om op te warm en sommer aan die slaap geraak | 20:02 |
| Kilos | rukke/rikkie | 20:03 |
| inetpro | :-) | 20:03 |
| * inetpro gaan nou slaap | 20:03 | |
| Kilos | lekker innie bed | 20:03 |
| Kilos | lekker slaap ou | 20:03 |
| inetpro | te moeg om nog te wag tot 23:00 vir die baie 8ta data wat nog oor is | 20:03 |
| Kilos | ai! | 20:04 |
| Kilos | at | 20:04 |
| inetpro | wens ek kon dit vir jou gee | 20:04 |
| Kilos | wget iets | 20:04 |
| Kilos | haha | 20:04 |
| magespawn | Just something, anything really | 20:06 |
| Kilos | yeah | 20:06 |
| Kilos | dont lose data without trying | 20:07 |
| Kilos | oh my he only has 1 hour | 20:07 |
| inetpro | good night everyone | 20:07 |
| Kilos | that sucks | 20:07 |
| Kilos | night inetpro | 20:08 |
| Kilos | sleep warm | 20:08 |
| theblazehen | night guys | 20:11 |
| Vince-0 | cyaar | 20:12 |
| magespawn | Night theblazehen | 20:12 |
| Kilos | just wanna try see if it bans me if i use ians nick | 20:18 |
| === Kilos is now known as Wolfeyes | ||
| Wolfeyes | i dunno the password | 20:18 |
| Wolfeyes | or maybe they unbanned him | 20:19 |
| Wolfeyes | isnt it supposed to timeout if you dont identify | 20:20 |
| magespawn | It should if the nick is registered | 20:22 |
| Wolfeyes | ya it says its registered but no timeout | 20:24 |
| Wolfeyes | maybe they sorry for banning him so long | 20:24 |
| Wolfeyes | hehe | 20:24 |
| === Wolfeyes is now known as Kilos | ||
| kbmonkey | hey what is going on here? lol | 20:28 |
| kbmonkey | who is who in the zoo | 20:28 |
| Kilos | ian was banned and we tried sort his prob for him and he mailed freenode to unban him | 20:29 |
| Kilos | so i tried his nick | 20:29 |
| kbmonkey | ah | 20:30 |
| Kilos | had an 8080 open proxy so they banned him | 20:30 |
| Kilos | and he didnt know why or how | 20:30 |
| kbmonkey | the freenode help channel might be able to help | 20:30 |
| Kilos | but the pro gave some commands and we found havp installed | 20:30 |
| Kilos | he could get on at all | 20:31 |
| Kilos | just left him an email addy to mail once 8080 wasnt open proxy any more | 20:31 |
| kbmonkey | still waiting for a reply on that? | 20:32 |
| Kilos | he hasnt tried to get on again yet | 20:32 |
| Kilos | too busy and too tired | 20:33 |
| kbmonkey | okay. | 20:33 |
| Kilos | gets home whenever and sleeps | 20:33 |
| kbmonkey | shame man | 20:34 |
| Kilos | yeah but getting better slowly | 20:34 |
| Kilos | got 46% of lungs working again' | 20:34 |
| Kilos | was 20% about 7 months ago | 20:34 |
| kbmonkey | that is amazing | 20:36 |
| Kilos | but now i wont know if its his nick that was banned or his pc | 20:37 |
| magespawn | Thats goog news | 20:37 |
| kbmonkey | there is also the #freenode channel for support if he does not get a reply from email | 20:37 |
| Kilos | yeah he has some weird virus and 18 months deep sea diamond diving crystalised his lungs | 20:37 |
| magespawn | Good too | 20:37 |
| Kilos | nearly vrekked | 20:38 |
| Kilos | ya they help me when i have probs | 20:38 |
| Kilos | now he is being innoculated with his own blood | 20:38 |
| Kilos | out arm and in bum near bottom spine | 20:39 |
| Kilos | and is working so far | 20:39 |
| Kilos | where no meds could help | 20:39 |
| kbmonkey | these doctors are too clever man | 20:39 |
| magespawn | Sometimes | 20:40 |
| Kilos | ordinary docs said sorry we cant help you | 20:40 |
| Kilos | he is now seeing a md /homeopath oke | 20:40 |
| Kilos | using himself to fight himself | 20:41 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:41 |
| kbmonkey | so we are all night owls tonight | 20:44 |
| Kilos | i slept i dunno how many hours already | 20:45 |
| Kilos | but if ian dont come on soon will go crash more | 20:45 |
| Kilos | very lekker in bed | 20:45 |
| kbmonkey | ja that bed does look good! | 20:47 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:47 |
| kbmonkey | was thinking to get to bed early to wake up at 4 or 5 | 20:48 |
| Kilos | why so early | 20:48 |
| kbmonkey | early bird catches the worm | 20:48 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:48 |
| Kilos | too cold for worms | 20:48 |
| kbmonkey | early worm catches the bird? | 20:48 |
| Kilos | ok lets crash. night all | 20:49 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 20:49 |
| kbmonkey | gn Kilos | 20:49 |
| Kilos | magespawn, dont be so scarce | 20:49 |
| magespawn | I prefer staying up late and sleeping late | 20:49 |
| Kilos | haha | 20:50 |
| Kilos | night lad | 20:50 |
| charl | i'm off | 20:59 |
| charl | good night all ! | 20:59 |
| magespawn | Night y'all | 21:01 |
| kbmonkey | gn magespawn | 21:03 |
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