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bl4ckdu5twilee-nilee: I have a 4Gb ram and I think it's ok00:01
DonkeyHoteiyou have to have more swap than ram to hibernate00:02
wilee-nileebl4ckdu5t, Some do not work so well, these threads show all the options to test it. Make sure the swap is at least 4 gigs slightly more is best. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=12.04+hibernate00:02
bekksDonkeyHotei: Marginally more swap, 4.1G swap for 4G RAM is ok for hibernation.00:02
DonkeyHoteiyes00:03
bl4ckdu5twilee-nilee: Thanks!00:04
ninaneufeldwhy is ubuntu so cool?00:04
wilee-nileebl4ckdu5t no problem, hopefully that helps.00:04
wilee-nileeninaneufeld, Not a support topic try #ubuntu-offtopic00:05
bl4ckdu5tyea00:06
DonkeyHoteiit's cool because it's not overheating your system :P00:06
dr_willisunless theres a powersaveing bug00:07
wilee-nileeSubCool, The packages will be different versions most likely in 12.04, you can make a list of whats installed though with. dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages00:07
wilee-nileeSubCool, I have a list of all my secondary package installs for fresh installs and any PPa's and keys, for fresh installs00:09
SubCoolah.. im using it wrong00:11
NickRicehow can i edit my file system on xubuntu00:12
wilee-nileeNickRice, The partitions?00:12
NickRiceno with vbox00:12
NickRicei mean00:12
NickRicei cant put files INTO the system00:12
yigalhello anyone use Netflix with 4000hd intel I've had to change the acceleration to uxa from sna as it was breaking X every hour or two.  The question I have is what settings are you people using to watch NetFlix as hassle free as possible?00:12
NickRicei can just make copies on the desktop00:12
NickRicei wanna put a C++ header in usr/include but it refused to copy over00:13
bekksNickRice: Because thats not possible with every guest OS running in vbox and it depends on the settings of your vm.00:13
DonkeyHoteiyigal: doesn't netflix need silverlight?00:13
bekksNickRice: You have to use the same mechanism as if you were using a second PC.00:13
wilee-nileeyigal, It runs in a wine envoroment I believe.00:13
wilee-nileeenvironment*00:14
NickRiceno no u misudnerstand00:14
NickRicethe file is IN ubuntu00:14
NickRicethis is all local in vbox00:14
wilee-nilee!who | Nickeeh00:14
ubottuNickeeh: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)00:14
wilee-nileeNickRice, ^^^^00:14
wilee-nileesorry Nickeeh00:14
bekksNickRice: As a normal user you do not have permissions to copy files somewhere outside your home.00:14
NickRicewilee-nileei downloaded the file IN xubuntu, and am trying to move it from the xubuntu desktop to xubuntop file system00:14
NickRicebekks:*00:15
wilee-nileetab complete to notify the user NickRice00:15
DonkeyHoteiNickRice: you shouldn't need to mess with the filesystem as a normal user00:16
yigalwilee-nilee: yes, exactly00:17
yigalwilee-nilee: that's why video is wonky00:17
calwigwhats the word of the day application in gnome called?00:17
NickRiceDonkeyHotel: How else can i make Codeblocks access the class file... i need to put it in usr/included but it wont go in!00:17
yigalwilee-nilee: but it works even with a non-dedicated video card.  The only problem is that using the more advanced 3d SNA it breaks very quickly00:18
wilee-nileeyigal, not sure of any fix, I don't use Netflix, you might ask in #winehq as just a suggestion is all.00:19
yigalwilee-nilee: cool man this is more specific to the X drivers being used in Ubuntu 13.04 but I will try my luck there as well00:20
wilee-nileeyigal, Sounds like it, hard to say how many use that app, and know anything, especially here.00:21
wilee-nilee!find word of the day00:21
ubottuof is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, unstable00:21
wilee-nileecalwig, closest I could find. http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomewotdapplet/00:24
calwig dude youre totally cool00:24
calwigthx00:24
wilee-nileea bad site though this is gtk 2 http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/GNOME-Word-of-the-Day-10171.shtml calwig00:25
DonkeyHoteiNickRice: what is codeblocks, and why does it need the system messed with?00:25
wilee-nileecalwig, It looks to not being supported as far as I can tell, but that is just all I found.00:26
calwigwill have a look at it to install00:27
Diffyumwhat package gives me GL/glext.h?00:31
OldTexasCool00:32
OldTexasY'all jes chat about ubuntu here?00:34
Ben66this is a support channel, for chatting and other offtopic stuff, there is #ubuntu-offtopic00:35
OldTexasTY cool00:35
ozzloyi'm trying to bring my bluetooth back up without rebooting.  i just woke from suspend and now bt is not coming up.  i've tried rfkill unblock and service bluetooth restart to no avail.  what do?  what log can i check for clues?00:38
ozzloyubuntu 12.0400:38
SubCoolok... question. I am about to resort back to 12.04.3 for stability, but i like a lot of the plasma option and such from 13. - is there a way to save those packages? or somthing? Well, i know there is a way, but is there a simple way?00:41
kostkonozzloy, try:   sudo hciconfig hci0 reset00:41
OerHeksSubCool, so you would risk stability, using backports or something on 12.04 to get latest packages meant for 13.04?00:45
SubCoolOerHeks, Kinda? - i just want a few of the gui plasma updates... -00:48
SubCoolbrb..00:50
mrproperIf I want to install 12.04 Server from a USB key, do I need to do anything fancy besides use something to copy the ISO to a USB key and then boot off it?00:57
mrproperI tried it and it said can't read from the CD, which would be completely true since it's usb00:57
wilee-nileemrproper, You can dd it to the usb or use a loader there are a handful at the least00:58
mrproperwilee-nilee: I used one of the ones for Windows, and I figured it worked great.00:58
LaCroix-Good evening folks00:58
mrproperwilee-nilee: But like I said, the installer was looking for a CD-ROM.00:58
wilee-nileemrproper, try unetbootin00:58
mrproperwilee-nilee: I did but it was odd and it wouldn't let me  boot. I'll try that again.00:59
wilee-nileemrproper, with the ISO, not a download.00:59
Obi1hello00:59
wilee-nileemrproper, there is also the mini netload.00:59
ni291187ll01:00
wilee-nileemrproper, Some usb's boot better from the boot from menu outside the bios, a per-session boot.01:00
ni291187.01:00
ni291187?01:00
mrproperwilee-nilee: What's the mini netload do? Basically PXE?01:00
wilee-nileeor just booting in general I never change the bios01:00
Obi1have usues on Ubuntu 12.04  the computer all of the suden run from 2% on quad core processor to 85 -100 only while in internet any ideas?01:01
wilee-nileemrproper, Not a pxe just a tiny iso to boot and load the system from the web. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD01:02
mrproperwilee-nilee: Oh very nice. I'm content with that. I need a minimal install basically01:02
wilee-nileehas the advantage of many options of installs01:02
wilee-nileeservers to desktops01:03
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wilee-nileelock and load its sandyd-mobile-ds, l)01:03
Obi1try to use my Yahoo e-mail and was so crazy  never been like that and the loading got so slow01:03
wilee-nilee;)01:03
sandyd-mobile-dsHey wilee-nilee01:04
wilee-nileehey just ribbing yah01:04
OldTexasObi1-   you using Firefox?01:04
wilee-nileeObi1, Install htop and take a look01:05
yigalwilee-nilee: as expected no one has answered on winehq, however changing to the less enhanced uxa appears to be far more stable and allows for NetFlix to be played in non-full version mode which is a huge plus01:06
yigalwilee-nilee: so in general it's the fix it yourself ideology that wins out, but I'm fine with that :P01:06
wilee-nileeyigal, Cool, sounds like you can fix it basically, not an area I'm real familiar with.01:06
Obi1yes i did used it , but closed dowb and used EPI01:06
Blendihello01:07
Blendi=D01:07
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Lacroix-Alright anyone here around to help an old bastage?  :D01:11
yigalLacroix-: I had know idea what you were talking about until http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bastage01:12
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yigalLacroix-: not, sure what help do you need?01:13
Guest67440a01:14
Obi1how to use the Htop app?01:17
ineedweedlooking for weed in montreal pls msg me01:17
Lacroix-I have not ran any version of Linux since old school Red Hat in mid 90's so ubuntu says I can use a flash drive to install it on a system..01:18
Lacroix-So I have a flash drive and an older lap top that I am unsure of how to set up the iso on the flash drive to set up ubuntu01:18
wilee-nilee!ot | ineedweed stop that01:18
ubottuineedweed stop that: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:18
dr_willisLacroix-:  tools at the pendrivelinux website can make a bootable usn01:19
dr_willis!install | Lacroix-01:19
ubottuLacroix-: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate01:19
Obi1UPS W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/htop/htop_1.0.1-1_i386.deb   Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)01:19
wilee-nileeObi1, what release, and what method used to get that error?01:20
Lacroix-ubottu, the laptop I want to install it on, the CD drive and has no network connection.. I want to try it out before I use it on my main system..01:20
ubottuLacroix-: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:20
Obi1i used synaptic01:20
wilee-nileeObi1, htop is in the repos01:20
Obi1i run 12.0401:20
wilee-nileeObi1, Looks like you added a repo address.01:21
dr_willisLacroix-:  pendruvelunux site has tools to make a live usn you can boot and test out01:21
Lacroix-boot and test out?  as in an emulator?01:21
dr_willisno.. as in booting the usb01:22
phillwhi could someone take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6046266/ and explain why the CPU usage is so high? It's got me totally beaten.01:22
Obi1what do you mean wilee?01:22
dr_willisor make a bootable cd/dvd01:22
wilee-nileeObi1, sudo apt-get install htop in the terminal01:22
Obi1ok will do01:22
Lacroix-the older lap top I'm looking to make a linux box out of, it appears the cd/dvd drive isnt functioning.. that Is why I'm trying to put the ISO on a flashdrive to set it up01:23
wilee-nileeObi1, Then just htop in the terminal01:23
Obi1 Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:23
Obi1message from terminal01:23
wilee-nileeObi1, close synaptic01:24
dr_willisLacroix-:  so again. use one of the dozen tools out ther to make a bootable usb flash drive01:24
Obi1ok retried again terminal01:24
Lacroix-So downloading the iso from the ubuntu website was a waste of time?01:24
dr_willisLacroix-:  ubuntu website has one. pendrivelinux website has others01:24
nemyeah01:24
nem13 faILED for me today01:25
nemi used 1201:25
kriskropddoes anyone have a ppa for the latest stable perl for ubuntu 13.04?01:25
nemand it works great01:25
wilee-nileeObi1, You can only have one install method open basically.01:25
FloodBot1nem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:25
dr_willisyou USE THE TOOL  to make a bootable usn WITH the iso01:25
Obi1got it01:25
wilee-nilee;)01:25
Obi1i see the htop working01:25
SchrodingersScatLacroix-: not sure what you mean, the program to make the LiveUSB should ask you for what ISO you are using.01:25
wilee-nileeObi1, You can scroll through it and use it to kill stuff and other options01:26
ozzloykostkon, i'll try that01:26
ozzloythanks01:26
ozzloykostkon, unfortunately it's not happening right now01:26
phillwLacroix-: using zsync to down load an ISO is never a waste of time. you need to install zsync 1st.01:26
wilee-nileeand find if something is running with a search Obi101:26
kostkonozzloy, :(01:26
SchrodingersScatphillw: tell me more01:26
Obi1nice app  thank you01:27
wilee-nileeno prob01:27
dr_willisRun one of the many tools you get from the Pendrivelinux web site.. tell it what ISO to use... tell it what USB flash to use... let it do its thang01:27
ozzloykostkon, i can make it happen though!01:27
Diffyumhow would you guys make a file targeting linux and not windows?01:27
kostkonozzloy, :P01:27
phillwSchrodingersScat: do a /j #lubuntu-offtopic01:27
dr_willisDiffyum:  how does a  'file' target an os?01:27
wilee-nileeDiffyum, Targeting?01:27
Diffyummakefile01:27
Diffyumhow do i make make make it so01:28
wilee-nileemmm cryptic posts yummy01:28
dr_willisi dont develop for windows. :) so i guess look for makefile examples that allreay do what you want and modify them01:29
kriskropdDiffyum: as fun as that line was to read, it might depend on how you are makign files. I'd guess you could ask a gcc support group01:29
Diffyumi am using make01:29
Diffyumok imagine a line where something is checked if it is defined01:30
Diffyumi want not it to be defined. but there does seem to be a default linux define01:30
kriskropdDiffyum: what I'm saying is you probably won't get your answer here as that is a very specific subject that would have better luck being answered in #ubuntu-offtopic for all I know01:30
dr_willisor programming channels01:31
dr_willisor development channels01:31
dr_willisor make 2 make files.. one for each os. ;)01:32
dr_willisof course isent that what the ./configure scripts normally handle01:32
Mace268ls01:47
Guest70664Hi01:50
RoDiMuS-XHow do I prevent Ubuntu from attempting to update a package, The issue is that the broadcom driver I am using is version 5 while its trying to update to version 6 which does not work with my wireless card.01:51
wilee-nileeRoDiMuS-X, You can lock it in synaptic01:52
wilee-nileeif you install synaptic01:52
RoDiMuS-Xok so once I install it just search the package and its pretty straight forward how to lock it?01:53
RoDiMuS-XI got it locked thanks wilee-nilee01:57
wilee-nileeRoDiMuS-X, no prob. ;)01:57
lotuspsychjemorning to all02:01
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mixmastermeowit feels good just being here02:04
andygraybeal:)02:04
mixmastermeow:D02:05
mixmastermeowim not even using ubuntu though02:05
nimbioticsHello all. I was trying to remove openoffice and install libreoffice again but somewhere something went wrong and now I cannot install anything via apt-get nor synaptic., the former lets me know "you have held broken packages". what can I do to fix this?02:05
mixmastermeowsudo apt-get autoclean02:05
mixmastermeowsudo apt-get autoremove02:05
mixmastermeowjk i dont know, i just like typing02:06
lotuspsychjenimbiotics: wich ubuntu version?02:07
RoDiMuS-Xsudo apt-get install -f did you try that nimbiotics02:07
nimbioticsRoDiMuS-X: ubuntu studio 13.0402:08
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RoDiMuS-Xok did you try sudo apt-get install -f02:08
RoDiMuS-Xif its not working, you might have to remove the broken package and reinstall it02:09
nimbioticslotuspsychje, RoDiMuS-X: mixmastermeow's recommendations did the trick02:10
lotuspsychje!yay | nimbiotics02:10
ubottunimbiotics: Glad you made it! :-)02:10
nimbioticsmixmastermeow: Thanks a lot!!!02:10
RoDiMuS-Xvery cool02:10
nimbioticsi thought i had already tried that though, but whatever, it worked!02:11
nimbioticsthanks to all of you!02:11
lotuspsychjenimbiotics: come again if you need something02:11
ozzloyi'm trying to bring my bluetooth back up without rebooting.  i just woke from suspend and now bt is not coming up.  i've tried rfkill unblock, hciconfig hci0 reset and service bluetooth restart to no avail.  what do?  what log can i check for clues?02:12
nimbioticswell ... i can stay now ... I NEED $2500, but I think this is a no lol zone02:12
lotuspsychje!bluetooth | ozzloy02:13
ubottuozzloy: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup02:13
lotuspsychjenimbiotics: you never know ubuntu got packages to save money :p02:13
ozzloylotuspsychje, hcitool says there are no devices at all02:14
lotuspsychjeozzloy: your drivers are installed correctly mate?02:14
nimbioticswell,  you can say that twice ... I work for a magazine editor who has spent THOUSAND$$$$ ON macs and adobe software and we are making the transition to open source now02:15
ozzloyperhaps?  bluetooth used to work02:15
ozzloyit works after rebooting02:15
ozzloybut not after waking from suspend02:15
lotuspsychjeozzloy: ah ic, chipset and ubuntu version?02:15
ozzloy12.04 and idk02:16
ozzloylenovo x102:16
ozzloyi probably can't find out without rebooting, since the device doesn't even show right now02:16
lotuspsychjeozzloy: maybe this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138721102:17
ozzloyi've tried sudo service bluetooth restart02:17
lotuspsychjeozzloy: im seeing alot of bugs on this issue02:18
ozzloywhich is the newer version of /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart suggested in that thread02:18
ozzloythanks for looking into it02:18
lotuspsychjeozzloy: you got any syslog.1 errors maybe that can help solve?02:18
lotuspsychjeozzloy: or do a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 and mess around a bit with bluetooth02:19
ozzloynothing since about 12 hours ago02:23
ozzloyeven when i mess with bluetooth via hcitool and hciconfig02:23
lotuspsychjeozzloy: your startup items show bluetooth service?02:23
ozzloydoing restarts02:23
ozzloymy startup items?02:23
lotuspsychjeozzloy: yes, services that start togheter with your computer02:24
ozzloyi'll check02:25
ozzloynope02:26
ozzloynothing in my personal ones02:26
ozzloymaybe something in /etc/init*02:26
lotuspsychjeozzloy: maybe this trick might work: http://www.serkey.com/ubuntu-bluetooth-disabled-on-resume-from-suspend-hibernate-bc5q4u.html02:27
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ozzloyi've tried sudo service bluetooth stop / restart02:29
ozzloythough i haven't tried stop _before_ suspending, then restart after02:30
ozzloybluetooth service is running02:30
ozzloythe device just isn't seen02:30
lotuspsychjeozzloy: thats odd indeed02:30
ozzloyperhaps that trick will work?  maybe if the service is disabled, the device will survive the suspending?02:31
ozzloyhere goes!02:31
abuhello02:31
operatorplikhi every body02:33
lotuspsychjeozzloy: i also read 12.04 got a hibernation re-enable trick, not sure if this matches your issue02:33
lotuspsychjewelcome02:33
ozzloylotuspsychje, we'll see.  rebooting to bring the device back, then i'll try suspend/resume02:34
lotuspsychjeozzloy: good luck mate!02:34
ozzloylotuspsychje, that apears to have worked02:39
ozzloy\o/02:39
lotuspsychje!yay | ozzloy02:39
ubottuozzloy: Glad you made it! :-)02:39
ozzloyi sure would like to know _why_02:39
nurowQuestion.. is there any way to replace the RythmBox Widget under sound with one from VLC?02:39
ozzloyidk *what* is going on here02:39
ozzloynurow, are you channeling that guy from the office?02:40
ozzloywith the "Question.."02:40
userHello.02:41
userhello.02:41
ozzloylotuspsychje, thanks, btw02:41
ozzloyuser, hi!02:41
lotuspsychjeozzloy: no sweat mate :p02:41
trismnurow: maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/40107/is-there-a-way-to-control-vlc-from-the-sound-menu02:41
ncphow do i get notified about degraded/failed disk when i'm running hardware raid? will ubuntu "notice" auto. and send root mail?02:43
trismnurow: seems to have moved though, in the version in 13.04 it is on Interface/Control Interface, not a separate dbus menu, seems to work02:44
nurowozzloy, lol, which guy?02:45
ozzloypossibly this is just the american version, but dwight02:46
ozzloyhe precedes his questions with "Question."02:46
ozzloyhttps://archive.foolzashit.com/foolfuuka/boards/o/image/1368/06/1368063693512.jpg02:46
Diffyum/usr/include/GL/gl.h:2085:22: fatal error: GL/glext.h: No such file or directory02:48
Diffyumthat makes no sense at all02:48
nurowD-Bus Control interface, right trism?02:48
honestlyozzloy: as we all should02:48
RedefinedClankhello! I am having a weird scrolling issue02:48
nurowozzloy, I am not Dwight! *crosses arms*02:48
honestlythat's why "interrogative" is a proword in voice radio procedure02:48
trismnurow: yep02:49
nurowthanks trism. Nopw how do I remove the rythm box one?02:50
nurowactually... i'll just uninstall rythmbox02:51
toilHi, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with ecryptfs, and I'm trying to set up sshd without passwords, but it only works when a current session is in place.. For example, I can ssh in, in one tab, and it'll ask me for a password, and then let me in(after correct password), and then I leave that session open, and ssh in again, in another tab, and it'll work. But if I close the original connection and don't do the second connection, it'll ask for 02:55
toilDisabling passwords and only allowing private keys locks me out of the system, aswell.02:55
toilI think it's to do with the ecryptfs.. Does anybody know a work-around or something for it?02:55
ozzloynurow, no, of course not02:57
ozzloynurow, merely channeling him02:57
toilfound an answer.. http://rohieb.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/84/03:00
zxcvbshi is there any way to install libraries and applications per userspace?03:05
Diffyumhow do i make my programs not build for windows and only for linux03:17
Diffyumplz tell03:17
cfhowlett!contribute|Diffyum,03:19
ubottuDiffyum,: contribute is To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu03:19
cfhowlettDiffyum, maybe you want to ask in #linux03:19
Diffyumplease03:21
Diffyumturn of mingw03:21
cfhowlettDiffyum, what is your native language??03:21
DiffyumTURN OFF MINGW. PLZ. I try so hard.03:21
Diffyumi use C++03:21
cfhowlettDiffyum, this is NOT a programming forum.  ask in c++03:22
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abuhellow hmid03:26
wilee-nileeSo In 12.04 I ran the ennoblement stack to quantal and then raring (64bit) and evrything is good, except that with the quiet spash in the grub I get a black screen, without it boots to the de fine, seems like I need a reset of this, not sure really.03:30
wilee-nileeenablement03:30
wilee-nileeThe graphic info is  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller03:33
MouseTheLuckyDogI've got a weird ( binary ) character in a filename. How can I show a hex version of the filename to see what it is?03:39
Moonk__test03:40
MouseTheLuckyDogMoonk__, what?03:42
wilee-nileefixed it with the intel open source graphic drivers app, brought the 3.8 kernel from the enablement in 12.04 up to date.  Just info for anyone reading this post set.03:43
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Mondaywill 13.10 require people to set an email and name when installing Ubuntu for Ubuntu One just like how people need an email to install and use Google Android?03:51
IdleOneMonday: No, and this is not the correct channel to discuss 13.10. Use #ubuntu+1 for that.03:55
Mondayhere IdleOne  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/ubuntu-one-log-in-added-to-ubuntu-13-10-installer03:56
IdleOneMonday: still not the right channel03:56
IdleOnebut just to answer your question and put an end to the possible spreading of FUD. Notice how there is a button to log in later? That means that it is not required for you to do it at install.03:58
seventhsamuariis there way to make changes to my boot loader other than using the terminal?03:58
dr_willistheres sime grub config guis out there seventhsamuari03:59
dr_willisbut its best to learn the terminal04:00
seventhsamuarithank dr_willis. I have some terminal knowledge but i havent messed with linux since mandrake...this is my first unbuntu install04:01
dr_willis! grub04:01
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub204:01
RPG-MasterHow might I go about forcing Java to use Pulseaudio instead of ALSA?04:06
RPG-MasterMinecraft has no sound, unless I kill Pulseaudio.04:06
RPG-MasterThen poof, sound is back.04:06
sethjWait.. no sound unless you kill pulseaudio? But you want Java to use it?04:07
Silver_ArrowRPG-Master: what java are you running minecraft with?04:08
dr_willisfirst ive seen this issue mentioned.04:08
Silver_ArrowI recomend Open-JDK 604:09
RPG-MasterOpen-JDK 7...04:09
Silver_Arrow7 didn't have the sound issue for me, but it didn't run as well04:10
sethjWhat version of Ubuntu are you using?04:10
RPG-Master13.0404:11
Silver_ArrowAh, I'm on quantal04:11
Silver_Arrowand using xubuntu04:12
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MentalFreedomHello peop-s04:12
grahamsavagei'm finding ubuntu is extremly buggy. I'm using 12.04 LTS 64bit and i experience on a daily basis.. standard applications crashing and won't even open (ubuntu software center), problems with screen resolutions, the System Settings page crashing regularly04:12
grahamsavageis this to be expected from the basic OS?    i'm new to ubuntu desktop but i've been using ubuntu server for about 6 years which in comparison seems incredibly stable04:13
dr_willisgrahamsavage:  ive rarely seen people with those issues in here.04:14
sethjgrahamsavage, it probably has to do with your hardware.. What graphics card do you have and did you install any drivers for it?04:14
grahamsavagesethj: i haven't installed any custom drivers for the graphics card04:15
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, atypical behavior suggests something other than the OS could be in play04:15
grahamsavagecfhowlett: ok04:15
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, did you MD5sum check the ISO?04:15
grahamsavagesethj: trying to find out what it is.. it's onboard04:15
grahamsavagecfhowlett: yeah04:15
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, oh, and is this a dual boot, single boot or wubi install?04:16
elton_if i buy a laptop with touch screen will ubuntu run on it?04:16
grahamsavagecfhowlett: single boot system, 256gb SSD, 32gb ram, I5 377004:16
cfhowlett!touch|elton_,04:16
ubottuelton_,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch04:16
sethjNot that touch04:16
sethjgrahamsvage Try lspci | grep VGA04:17
grahamsavageok the mboard (with onboard graphics is a ASUS P8 Z77-V LE PLUS04:17
sethj*grahamsavage04:17
grahamsavage00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)04:17
dr_williselton_:  a normal laptop should work.  if the touchscreen works may be tricker04:17
elton_ic04:18
grahamsavagesethj: more info.. i have a huge number of problems with google chrome (painting tabs really slowly) freezing constantly.. i don't know if these are related to the OS issues04:18
sethjgrahamsavage is this a custom built (desktop)?04:18
grahamsavageyeah desktop04:18
grahamsavagebut all good hardware, good ram, good SSD etc04:19
ziadingohi, how show battery percentage on top menu. I am using ubuntu 13.004:19
ziadingo*13.0404:19
lubuntu_need help connect to my wireless printer..04:20
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, sounds like a standard set up.  did you verify integrity check of your boot media?  not the md5sum, boot and then run the check - preferably before install  :)04:20
grahamsavagejust of the iso after i downloaded it04:20
cfhowlett!details|lubuntu_,04:20
ubottulubuntu_,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."04:20
grahamsavageand then i installed off of USB stick04:20
sethjgrahamsavage, what happens if you run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel04:21
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, right.  there's an option to verify the disk.  bad burns happen to good people, so it's advisable to take the 50 seconds to verify04:21
lubuntu_im running lubuntu 13.XX04:21
dr_willisziadingo:  one way would be to check into the various indicator-applets listed at askubuntu.com one of them most likely can do it. but i THOUGHT  ubuntus power settings showed such an icon  by default when on battery. but there may  be some bugs not showing it04:21
grahamsavagesethj: unmet dependencies:  xorg-video-abi-11  xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.10.99.901)04:22
sethjEh oh >.<04:22
grahamsavagecfhowlett,: ok i'll remember that in future :D04:22
lubuntu_running epson work force 63504:22
sethjBeen tinkering?04:22
grahamsavagesethj: who me? erm i hope not04:22
dr_willislubuntu_:  so what have you done so far to configure the printer?04:23
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, try this from terminal; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    will bring all packages current04:23
grahamsavageok04:23
sethjgrahamsavage, well the drivers aren't installed and they should come default.. so *something* happened ;)04:23
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, note any error messages04:23
lubuntu_i got my printer connected to my wireless network..now how do i connect to my printer04:24
grahamsavageok.. i've documented my entire install procedure.. i've installed many things like postgresql and other development related stuff04:24
dr_willislubuntu_:  via the printer config thing in system-settings normally...04:24
grahamsavagebut it's all pretty standard, nothing to do wtih graphics cards etc04:24
grahamsavagehttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/6f036ddcf850646145f9 << that's the full output04:24
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dr_willislubuntu_:  or the cups web interface   http://localhost:63104:25
cfhowlettlubuntu_, system settings > printers > add printer04:25
grahamsavagewill dist-upgrade move me away from 12.04?04:25
sethjgrahamsavage, no04:25
dr_willisgrahamsavage:  no it wont04:25
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, it will not.  it'll upgrade you to 12.4.304:25
cfhowlettcurrent04:25
grahamsavageoh nice :D04:25
sethjthat would be do-release-upgrade04:25
lubuntu_i try to enter the IP to connect but nothing04:26
dr_willislubuntu_:  the cups web interface has a 'scan'  feature.04:26
dr_willisand some guides/docs on using cups..04:26
dr_willis!cups04:27
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu04:27
xmetalhello everyone04:27
MentalFreedomhi04:27
grahamsavageok i think the download will take a very long time :)04:27
grahamsavagemaybe hours04:27
xmetalbacking a few drive images up at the moment04:27
sethjgrahamsavage, have you been updating regularly?04:28
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, are you on a slow connection or something?  12.04 to 12.04.3 shouldn't take more than a few minutes ...04:28
grahamsavageyeah, every few weeks04:29
grahamsavagebut my internet is very slow04:29
grahamsavagei'm only getting about 100kbs04:29
sethjgrahamsavage, ah OK.. BTW, how have you been upgrading?04:29
grahamsavagecfhowlett: VERY slow04:29
sethjterminal? update manager?04:29
grahamsavagecfhowlett: China to Dallas VPN to rest of world04:29
grahamsavageapt-get update, apt-get upgrade04:30
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, so you haven't been upgrading, right?  I'm in Beijing.  Gotta do regular maintenance.  No need for VPN on Ubuntu?  Set your mirrors to China local and get r done!04:30
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grahamsavagei've never done the dist-upgrade before though04:30
Ben66grahamsavage: i'd suggest staying on 12.04, its supported until 201704:30
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, the 12.4.3 is a point release, NOT a whole OS upgrade.04:31
grahamsavageBen66: cool04:31
grahamsavagecfhowlett,: oh right04:31
GH0I must not understand ddrescue, because as or right now, it says that it copied data to the cloned drive, but nothing appears to be working correctly with that cloned drive.04:31
sethjgrahamsavage, that's part of your problem. You need to use dist-upgrade more often04:31
GH0So.... what the hell do I do?04:31
sethjespecially if you don't ever use the update manager04:31
grahamsavage_cfhowlett: how do you set them to the chinese mirrors?04:32
sethjgrahamsavage see http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade04:32
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, software center settings >>> software sources04:32
dr_willisGH0:  what ddrescue command did you use?04:32
grahamsavage_cfhowlett: i'm not able to open the software center, it just crashes04:32
sethjAnyway, seems cfhowlett has got you covered. ga night.04:33
grahamsavage_sethj: thankyou for your help :D04:33
grahamsavage_is there a way to update the command line to use the chinese mirrors?04:35
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, yeah wait one ...04:35
cfhowlettgrahamsavage_, okay, you'll need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list04:37
arunkumar413Hi, i04:38
grahamsavage_cfhowlett,: change US to CN?04:38
cfhowlettgrahamsavage_, in front of every entry you'll need to add cn.   for china04:39
arunkumar413hi, i'm on 13.10. plz help me to install mir desktop04:39
cfhowlett!ubuntu+!|arunkumar413,04:39
cfhowlett!ubuntu+1|arunkumar413,04:39
ubottuarunkumar413,: Saucy Salamander is the codename for Ubuntu 13.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+104:39
grahamsavage_cfhowlett: what about for security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and extras.ubuntu.com?04:39
xtrizi have installed cinnamon but there is some lag, how can i remove or correct it ?04:40
cfhowlettgrahamsavage_, substitute .cn for .us04:40
wilee-nileegrahamsavage_, you can generate a list for your country with this site and replace the sources.list  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/04:40
grahamsavage_ohh nice :D04:40
cfhowlettgrahamsavage_, yes that tool or sub all .us with .cn04:41
wilee-nileegrahamsavage_, Follow cfhowlett make sure they feel good with this. ;)04:41
wilee-nileextriz, What release are you running?04:42
cfhowlettgrahamsavage_, easy way?  rename the sources.list to BACKUPsources.list  open that file in writer, find/replace and save as unformatted text.  of course04:42
xtrizwilee-nilee, 1.804:42
wilee-nileextriz, Ubuntu release, and how did you load cinnamon?04:42
xtriz13.04 and loaded cinnamon from the login screen change the session to cinnamon.04:43
wilee-nileextriz, Did you install cinnamon without adding a PPA, in other words from the ubuntu repos?04:44
xtrizi added cinnamon using a PPA not from the ubuntu repos, because ubuntu repos has version 1.604:44
grahamsavage_haha now that's fast :D04:45
cfhowlettgrahamsavage_, eh?04:45
grahamsavage_yeah i'm getting 1mb/s04:46
wilee-nileextriz, Ah, well PPA's are not supported here, I found for the 5 min I tried cinnamon in 13.04 it ran fine, if you want it you might run ppa-purge and install 1.6 jsu to test it, newest does not mean best especially with a ppa.04:46
cfhowlettgrahamsavage_, if you're in BJ you can buy me a beer ...04:46
xtrizwilee-nilee, ok let me try 1.6 and check out the results.04:47
wilee-nileextriz, Otherwise a remove is sudo apt-get remove cinnamon and remove the ppa, I would consider the ppa-purge though04:47
wilee-nilee! ppa-purge | xtriz04:47
ubottuxtriz: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html04:47
grahamsavage_sure :D  pm me your wexin04:47
grahamsavage_weixin04:47
xtrizwilee-nilee, thanks for making things handy :)04:48
wilee-nileextriz, No problem. ;)04:48
xtriz:)04:49
arunkumar413#ubuntu +104:49
wilee-nileearunkumar413, /j #ubuntu+104:50
mrmowgliAnyone know why I don't see created time anywhere? ls -alh just shows modified time, same with the 'Files' application in 13.0404:50
cfhowlettgrahamsavage_, once upgraded don't forget to use your VPN only as needed for firewall blocked stuff YT, twitter, FB. I don't even use vpn BUT I found out that the USA embassy multimedia room offers free wifi without great firewall!04:50
mrmowgliok fine then the better question, why aren't I seeing any updates in 13.04???04:55
mrmowgliIt's been three weeks04:55
mrmowgliSeems very unnatural04:55
cfhowlettmrmowgli, check your repo settings04:55
mrmowglicfhowlett: is there a specific thing I should look for?04:56
cfhowlettmrmowgli, for one, make sure security updates are enabled.04:56
mrmowglicfhowlett: when I do an update all the repos look like they come down including the security05:00
mrmowglicfhowlett: like: Hit http://security.ubuntu.com raring-security/main amd64 Packages05:01
cfhowlettmrmowgli, OK.  if nothing comes down then .... you're all caught up!  but you might run from terminal to verify.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will bring all packages current05:01
mrmowglicfhowlett: that's what I've been doing manually05:02
mrmowgliThat's why it feels weird'05:02
cfhowlettmrmowgli, could be you're all caught up and nothing to grab.05:05
NeonSpeedAnybody familiar with Ubuntu 13.04?05:06
cfhowlettNeonSpeed, yes.05:06
dr_willis!ask05:06
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:06
NeonSpeedcfhowlett, I'm looking for a cpu temp applet for my desktop?05:07
dr_willisNeonSpeed:   conky can do that05:07
dr_willistheres indicator-applets also05:08
dr_willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/conky-manager-gui-for-managing-conky.html05:09
NeonSpeeddr_willis, downloading now thanks!05:09
dr_willisconky manager is handy.05:09
c0d37arNeonSpeed: here you go : http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/panel-indicators-collection-for-ubuntu.html05:10
NeonSpeeddr_willis, Downloaded, how do I activate it on my desktop? Sorry it's been awhile since I've been on linux.05:11
dr_willissee the conky manager i posted?   ;-)05:11
dr_willismakes it easy05:11
zxfHello everyone!05:12
NeonSpeeddr_willis, Ah sorry I missed that, looking into it now.05:12
NeonSpeeddr_willis, You have been around here for a looooong time I remember you from waaaaay back!05:12
dr_willisim old with no social life.   :-)05:13
zxfx_x05:13
NeonSpeedYou probably don't remember me but I used to come in here under InsaneNprouD05:14
dr_willisi can barely  remember my own  name.  :-\05:15
NeonSpeedLol well it's been a couple years since I've been in here so I didn't think you would remember me.05:16
NeonSpeedc0d37ar, I'm trying the one you gave me a link to and I got it installed but not sure how I turn it on?05:20
c0d37arNeonSpeed: may be login again your pc05:20
NeonSpeedOkay brb05:20
c0d37arNeonSpeed: im not on linux now...but try to login05:20
NeonSpeedc0d37ar, No luck, I'll try a couple other things to get it working though05:25
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NeonSpeedGot it working, thanks guys!!!!05:36
NeonSpeedIs it normal for cpu to run a little hotter in Ubuntu compared to Windows?05:37
clongI have a question about MAAS & Juju on ubuntu 13.0.4 vs 12.0.4. Which version of Ubuntu does it actually install on with the least amount of issues?05:44
wilee-nileeclong, That would be a personal opinion you tell us. ;)05:45
cfhowlettclong, .0167 degrees of variance is normal.05:46
clongNo, That is a question I'm asking. I'm having issues getting it to work on 13.0.4 and was wondering if they cooperate without the issues on 12.0.4.305:47
wilee-nileeclong, Yes it is but a invalid one as all you will get are opinions05:47
wilee-nileethat have no validity05:48
kaboom12i did rm -r * in the home, (i know very stupid of me) is there any way to retrieve data?05:48
clongI was hoping I might actually find people on this channel who may have actual experience.05:49
wilee-nileeWhat is the definition of "least amount of issues"?05:49
kunaiNo, you cannot retrieve data that you used rm on.05:49
kunaiDo not enter any commands into a shell unless you know EXACTLY what they do to your system.05:49
clongI can't successfully bootstrap a node with "juju bootstrap"05:50
kunaiSorry about that. Just be careful next time around05:50
grahamsavagehey i'm getting a huge number of hash sum mismatches?05:52
cfhowlettkaboom12, grahamsavage on what?05:52
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, on what?05:52
grahamsavageapt-get update05:52
grahamsavagehttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/639644605:53
kaboom12cfhowlett: i managed to do sudo rm -r *, any way to get data back?05:53
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, this is with the new mirror setings05:53
grahamsavageyeah05:53
kaboom12i wouldn't have cared but there were alot of important files as well hence05:53
cfhowlettkaboom12, nope.  sorry, cap'n, but the data, she is gone.05:53
grahamsavagecfhowlett: surely you can just run data recover tools05:54
grahamsavageit doesn't 0 the data?05:54
kaboom12cfhowlett: there must be someway man, linux has been around for ages.05:54
grahamsavagei've formatted drives before and retrieved all the data off of them05:54
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, line 14 of that image suggests there's a malformed file.05:54
xmetali agree .. its a really bad idea to enter commands in a shell without at least having an idea of what it does05:54
cfhowlettanyone with a way to recover rm -r please help kaboom.05:55
kaboom12kunai: i know what it does, i was just trying fakeroot.05:56
grahamsavagekaboom12: try ddrescue05:56
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, i've had that as well.  for a day or 2, all my hashes were scrambled but the next day, they just worked again...05:56
grahamsavageweird05:56
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, yeah.05:56
grahamsavageare the chinese mirrors secure?05:56
grahamsavagei.e. from the gov05:56
kaboom12grahamsavage: let me see05:56
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, no more or less than the other mirrors ...05:56
kaboom12grahamsavage: apt-cache found gddrescue, i guess same thing? grahamsavage05:57
Xavier89HOLA05:57
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, my understanding is that local mirrors are still set to verify against the main repo at canonical ...05:57
grahamsavageoh sweet :D05:57
cfhowlettXavier89, greetings05:57
grahamsavageok.. good05:57
grahamsavagei worry about having "special code" turn up on my dev servers05:58
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, you or your servers are in China.  Assume that in some way, shape or form, the government can monitor.  I don't know about actually injecting code, though.06:02
grahamsavagecfhowlett: hmm how06:02
grahamsavagetraffic goes out via a vpn06:02
grahamsavageeverything is encrypted06:02
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, trust me, the gov knows all about that vpn...06:02
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grahamsavageyeah but they don't know what's going through it :)06:03
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, so your VPN provider claims ...06:03
grahamsavagei am the VPN provider06:03
grahamsavage:D06:03
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, ah, well know! an expert!06:03
xmetalcall me paranoid but i feel the govern can get to anything if it wanted to06:03
cfhowlettI had no idea06:03
cfhowlettxmetal, just cuz you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you ...06:04
xmetalexactly06:04
grahamsavagelol.. nah it's easy you just start up a service on amazon aws and install openvpn.. although i have had more like with pptp recently06:04
xmetalgood quote06:04
grahamsavagexmetal: depends how mental you are06:04
cfhowlettxmetal, got that one from dear old dad.06:04
xmetal i saw that on NCIS once06:05
xmetal(that quote)06:05
grahamsavagewho's that russian security chick06:05
Forevernadehello, im setting up a computer i just bought, and my mobo only seems to have 2 slots for chassis fans06:06
grahamsavage http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2009/10/evil-maid-goes-after-truecrypt.html << oh yeah this one06:06
Forevernadei was wondering if i could use the speaker header to power another fan?06:06
grahamsavagethey've got a special vm version of linux which looks pretty awesome06:06
xmetalif your taking about who i think you are A) thats Massad (i just set off some NSA filter probably :P) and B) its Ziva David ("Da-vid")06:07
xmetalvm version?06:07
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grahamsavagexmetal: every app gets sandboxed in a vm06:08
grahamsavageso to get exploited they have to break out of entire vm.. which is probably next to impossible06:09
grahamsavagexmetal: http://qubes-os.org/trac06:10
mangeshI'm looking for a multiplayer kart racing game, is this the right place to ask?06:10
walltenderHi, I have a lost my docx files contents twice on Libreoffice.l06:12
cfhowlettmangesh, tuxcart06:12
cfhowlettwalltender, use the windows 2007 - 2010 settings.06:12
walltenderI saved the file, not closing libreoffice writer, just shut down my laptop. Half of the contents are mysteriously gone.06:13
cfhowlettwalltender, not an ubuntu problem ... libre office hasn't quite mastered the hack of the most recent windows document format06:13
mangeshyou mean supertuxkart?06:13
cfhowlettwalltender,  try saving to a different location ... usb stick perhaps06:13
mangeshthats not exactly multiplayer06:14
cfhowlettmangesh, yeah that's the one06:14
cfhowlettmangesh, ah,  sorry.06:14
walltendercfhowlett: Is there a way to retrieve the contents. I am desperately need them. the .bak file shows in the same.06:14
cfhowlettwalltender, you could try looking in the libreoffice settings to see if there are any alternative saves/locations06:15
ndyakovhello, can anyone reproduce this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/118149506:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1181495 in bash-completion (Ubuntu) "Strange bug in Ubuntu 13.04 (apt and more) [bash-completion]" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:15
mangeshyou have to share your keyboard and screen for supertuxkart06:16
walltendercfhowlett: I only know the backup location, which shows the same shit.06:17
helmut_hi06:19
Xavier89hi06:19
mangeshmultiplayer kart racing game for LAN party? anyone?06:20
XMzhouhi all06:20
cfhowlettwalltender, don't know what to tell you.  sorry.06:21
cfhowlettXMzhou, greetings06:21
aeon-ltdmangesh: #ubuntu-offtopic will know06:22
mctaztikHello, I have ubuntu running on an OVH dedicated machine, I am trying to install the linux-image-extra using apt-get install linux-image-extra-`uname -r` but get the error:  Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-3.10.9-xxxx-grs-ipv6-6406:22
mangeshokay06:22
Gneamangesh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/NativeFreeUbuntuGames06:23
Gneaoddly enough, it's not offtopic :-)06:23
XMzhou:)06:24
Gneamctaztik: so you should do the following to find the correct name of the package: apt-cache search linux-image-extra06:26
bazhangmctaztik, tried to tab complete it?06:27
mctaztikGnea: Ok, will try that, thank you :)06:28
NeonSpeedIs there something I am missing or does Ubuntu 13.04 have extremely slow download speeds?06:32
dr_willismangesh:  tuxcart06:34
mangeshthats not playable on LAN06:35
dr_willisNeonSpeed:  not for me.06:35
mangesh:(06:35
dr_willistuxcart was lan playable last i looked06:35
mapNeonSpeed,  downloading in general?06:36
cfhowlettNeonSpeed, use torrents06:36
mapid test his connection using a mirror06:37
mangeshwait06:37
mangeshsupertuxkart or tuxkart?06:37
daftykinseverything's better with super06:37
NeonSpeedmap, Yeah my speed test shows 69mbps but when I download on the web or in the software center it is incredibly slow06:38
cfhowlettNeonSpeed, did you localize your mirrors?06:38
mapya try a diff mirror06:38
NeonSpeedcfhowlett, How do I go about doing that?06:38
dr_willisslow servers are slow.  ;-)06:38
mapselect a murror nearest your location dude06:39
cfhowlettNeonSpeed, software center > settings > software sources06:39
Douughello all, anyone know of a good guide for ubuntu MS Exchange replacement?06:39
NeonSpeedcfhowlett, I'm not referring to download the actual OS I'm talking about programs on the web and programs from the software center06:39
mapDouug, you mean for running email svr?06:40
cfhowlettNeonSpeed, all software downloads go through the assigned mirror.  if you're in China, as I am, you wouldn't use the London settings, would you?  take 30 seconds to check ...06:40
Douugyes, basically replacing MS Exchange06:40
maphmm yea i read oine before06:40
mapmoment06:40
Douugi have tried the Samba4 , Sogo and OpenChange solution from Google but Outlook hangs on loading profile and Samba4 crashes06:41
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NeonSpeedLets see if it helped06:44
maphttp://www.pixelinx.com/2010/10/creating-a-mail-server-on-ubuntu-using-postfix-courier-ssltls-spamassassin-clamav-and-amavis/06:45
mapNeonSpeed,  i setuip clamav/postfix/squirrel before but not sure if thatd do for your needs?06:45
esehi, i think i lost my sound system when i installed pulseaudio :(06:48
NeonSpeedWhat temp should I be worried for my cpu?06:50
aeon-ltdNeonSpeed: that kinda depends on what the idle and average temps are for your cpu, but anything outrageous and persistent should be of concern06:51
NeonSpeedaeon-ltd, At idle usually it's around 150F when I'm doing stuff it will get up to 174F but usually that's with several things going06:52
aeon-ltdNeonSpeed: 174f is pretty high, but this is a desktop right?06:54
NeonSpeedaeon-ltd, No this is on my laptop06:55
NeonSpeedRight now with a couple tabs in Opera open System Settings and Software Center I'm sitting around 147-155F06:57
NeonSpeedAnd XChat obviously06:57
Johnny_Linuxmight wanna try jupiter and set it to power on demand06:58
Johnny_Linuxgoogle jupiter applet06:58
NeonSpeedJohnny_Linux, Gonna give that a try, I'll let you know if it helps or not.06:59
Johnny_Linuxplus, buy a can of air and keep the vents clean07:00
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wilee-nileeNeonSpeed, You installed lm-sensors?07:01
NeonSpeedJohnny_Linux, Yeah I clean the vents pretty often07:01
wilee-nileedevelopment for the google jupiter applet stopped in 201207:01
Johnny_Linuxalso, you can put feet on the bottom, itl raise it about an inch which will let the fan run free07:02
NeonSpeedwilee-nilee, Yeah I'm using Hardware Sensor Indicator right now07:02
wilee-nileeNeonSpeed, they do at times give wrong temperatures, is it blowing hot air and the fans running all the time?07:03
dr_willisstick it in the freezer. ;-)07:03
xmetaland grab some ice cream while your doing that07:04
xmetal:P07:04
NeonSpeedwilee-nilee, Right now it's at 145F and the air coming out isn't hot, just warm, and the fan is running but it's running on it slower speed right now07:04
dr_willishoney.. whats this cable coming from the freezer for? and who ate the rocky road?07:05
xmetallol07:06
NeonSpeedLol "sorry babe had to eat it to make room for the laptop"07:07
NeonSpeedUh oh something wrong with my Software Center now07:09
NeonSpeedCan't download anything now :(07:11
FloodBot1!netsplit07:11
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit07:11
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zimboi installed emacs24 via apt then tried to remove emacs23 via apt, which then installed emacs23-lucid, when trying to remove emacs23-lucid apt not wants to install emacs23-nox?07:12
zimboi have no idea why07:12
xmetalthats it07:13
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xmetalthe rocky road broke freenode07:13
xmetal:P07:13
zimbonow wants to install emacs23-nox07:13
zimbowtf07:13
zimboi had to: apt-get remove emacs23 emacs23-lucid emacs23-nox - even though emacs23-nox and emacs23 aren't installed07:15
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raptor67682hi07:19
raptor67682I look for a small linux computer for my kitchen, with a keyboard, to be handy to keep on irssi  and small ... would you know anything?07:19
Ben66you may want to ask in #linux or ##hardware or get a Raspberry Pi07:20
bl4ckdu5tI just installed lampp and I tried loading up some of my PHP projects in some folders  but I get blank results07:26
xorox90How can I change default interface wlan0 -> eth0?07:27
Pviberehi all! Where I can find ubuntu lts (12.04) iso, but console only ? (without X, gui...) Thank for any hint! P. S.: I was googling, but without success.... ><07:28
wilee-nileePvibere, There is none use the server07:29
Pviberewilee-nilee: thank yu!07:29
NeonSpeedI love you guys! Lol07:35
raptor67682I look for a small linux computer for my kitchen, with a keyboard, to be handy to keep on irssi  and small ... would you know anything?07:36
wilee-nileeraptor67682, very few computers come with linux.07:38
aeon-ltdraptor67682: as said before raspberry pi, you cannot get any smaller for the price07:38
NeonSpeedThey may not come with linux but it can be installed on anything :)07:39
raptor67682the rasberry is delivered with or without power?07:41
raptor67682how much it costs=?07:41
lhxwhat kins of oweformance on the pi?07:41
raptor67682and cheaper? raspberry in germany cost 45 euros07:41
aeon-ltdraptor67682: you use a usb plug to power it, $35 iirc07:41
NeonSpeedLinux shows better performance with more ram than Windows, I notice no difference in Windows from 3gb ram to 8gb but I notice a huge difference in Linux with 8gb07:41
raptor67682oh really, but, on which port to power usb it?07:42
aeon-ltdraptor67682: $25 for the other model07:42
lhxbow fast is a pi? like a pc from 2000?07:42
dr_willisI like My  Pi's ;)07:42
aeon-ltdlhx: can't compare, it's arm not x8607:42
raptor67682  http://www.codeproject.com/KB/system/424615/RPi_ModelB.png07:42
lhxcan it do video?07:43
dr_willisPi can do more then a 13 yr old pc. :)07:43
aeon-ltdlhx: it can output video in 1080p07:43
minimalistlhx, yup07:43
dr_willisone of its MAIN selling points is it can do video07:43
lhxoj snap  .07:43
lhxi must learn07:43
lhxdamn iphone kb07:43
dr_willisi run xbmc on my pi to wtch videos07:43
NeonSpeedWhat browser do you guys use?07:44
minimalistthe problem with pi is that they are overbooked and out of stock07:44
lhxahhhh07:44
dr_willisPlex on Ubuntu + that Plex-Pi = handy upnp server/clients07:44
NeonSpeedBeen testing them all day to see which is faster and better, so far I'm liking Opera the best.07:44
aeon-ltdlhx: to use it though you need a 5v usb power source, usb keyboard, sd card, and preferably a ethernet connection07:44
lhxxbmc on mac here07:44
dr_willistheres dozens of mini arm based linux boxs out there07:44
minimalisti want something sub 25 $USD07:44
lhxis pi the best?07:44
minimalistand readily available07:45
Johnny_Linuxhttp://linuxgizmos.com/07:45
dr_willisBelow $25 is going to be hard to do07:45
lhxhow about below 5007:45
dr_willisdozen of them out in thee $50 to $100 range07:45
minimalist50 is expensive in the embedded domain07:45
dr_willislook on amazon07:45
dr_willisdepends on the specs07:46
NeonSpeedIs there a browser that is better than Opera for Ubuntu?07:46
lhxrecommendation? prefer debian or ibuntu07:46
F014Hi there .. I have a Digital Key analogy assignment , using Ubuntu, but my question to help finish this is : WHAT is the Art of lock-picking or Locks called ?07:46
aeon-ltdmost of them are essentially smartphones but in plain board form07:46
dr_willisNeonSpeed:  most people dont use Opera theese days. it jus has sort of fallen off the radar07:46
malkaunsNeonSpeed, chrome?07:46
aeon-ltdopera moved to webkit anyway, it will be nearly identical to chrome07:46
malkaunsOpera has always been the underdog07:46
malkaunsfrom day 107:46
NeonSpeedmalkauns, I use Chrome in windows and tried it in Ubuntu but so far Opera seems to be the fastest07:47
dr_willisopera on android is ok.but really not outstanding07:47
malkaunsNeonSpeed, good for u :P07:47
dr_willishow are you benchmarking the  speeds? ;)07:47
minimalistNeonSpeed,  http://tutzone.org/increase-firefox-speed-by-10-30x/07:48
NeonSpeeddr_willis, Just going by experience based on loading times, I like the simple look of Opera too though07:48
minimalistit works ..07:48
aeon-ltdi highly doubt 30x07:48
minimalistabout 10x really07:49
dr_willispreloading? ;)07:49
minimalistnope a lot of configs07:49
minimalistlike nultiple connections07:49
aeon-ltdis it just making more requests and changing the request limit?07:49
minimalistya kinda07:49
aeon-ltdalso nglayout.initialpaint.delay07:49
minimalistalsao chaning some rendering settings07:50
minimalistyes07:50
NeonSpeedminimalist, I've done the config in Windows, it does work but I def wouldn't say 30x, 10x is more believable07:50
aeon-ltdi've done those and i'd say 10x is stretching it07:50
minimalistNeonSpeed, yup.07:50
aeon-ltdmost of the time though it is better than stock07:50
minimalistwhich is the best lightweight capable browser?07:51
minimalist"capable"07:51
clctominimalist: uzbl07:51
aeon-ltdif you like vim07:51
dr_willisdefine what capable means  to you. ;)07:51
minimalistcapable means it should be able to do all the mundane stuff on the web.. flash etc included07:52
aeon-ltdminimalist: chrome/chromium?07:52
minimalistpreferrably modular so i can switch off stuff i dont want at that moment07:52
dr_willisi tend to turn off flash on all the browsers..07:52
dr_willis;)07:52
NeonSpeedI used to get crap all the time way back in the day cause I actually liked Netscape lol07:52
F014Hi there .. I have a Digital Key analogy assignment , using Ubuntu, but my question to help finish this is : WHAT is the Art of lock-picking or Locks called ?07:53
minimalistfirefox is my default but it leaks memory like an old cauldron :P07:53
NeonSpeeddr_willis, How do you live without flash?07:53
minimalistyeah i used netscape a lot07:53
minimalistgood old days07:53
dr_willisNeonSpeed:  i find i rarely  need it.07:54
minimalistflash sucks07:54
NeonSpeeddr_willis, Must not be a YouTube person huh?07:54
dr_willisyou dont need flash for youtube. ;;)07:54
minimalistonly for streaming videos07:54
dr_willistheres flash downloader extensions, and extensions tha tplay the flash videos in vlc or mplayer out there.07:54
minimalisti hipe its gonna be replaced by html5 soon07:54
minimalist*hope07:54
dr_willisso i dont even need it for streaming youtube videos07:54
dr_willisplus youtube has html5 ssupport for most videos these days07:55
minimalistdr_willis, haha nice :) youtube-dl07:55
NeonSpeedI get bored too easily and find myself on YouTube quite a bit07:55
minimalistmy PrOn site is better than u tube07:56
minimalistin terms of bandwidth07:56
F014Hi there .. I have a Digital Key analogy assignment , using Ubuntu, but my question to help finish this is : WHAT is the Art of lock-picking or Locks called ? - It ends in -ology.07:56
dr_willisofftopic-ologu07:56
clctoF014: you dont have to repeat your question 3 minutes later07:56
dr_willisofftopic-ology07:56
NeonSpeedLOL @dr_willis07:57
minimalistlol07:57
F014screw this.07:57
dr_williswe dont do homework for you.07:57
NeonSpeedscrew thisology? interesting07:57
minimalistlmao07:57
clctogood riddancw07:57
dr_willis'read your class textbook-ology' ?07:57
NeonSpeedThat sounds like something most drop outs study07:57
minimalistold monk rum . classic caramel .. sipping rum07:57
NeonSpeedThen they follow it up by quiting-job-ology07:58
minimalistsay whats u folsk take on crunchbang?07:58
minimalistis cruchbang really lightweight?07:58
dr_willisminimalist:  i dont see the point really. its not ubuntu either. ;)07:58
dr_willislinux + a window manager - easy  to do with ubuntu  if you wanted to07:59
minimalistor can one just strip down ubuntu and have the same effect?07:59
clctominimalist: lightweight = archlinux07:59
usr13minimalist: You can install xubuntu or lubuntu07:59
dr_willisubuntu running blackbox, or openbox, or whatever wm you want07:59
minimalistdr_willis, yup.. thats what i was thinkin07:59
minimalistfluxbox .. is what i run08:00
dr_willisi just stick to Lubuntu mainly08:00
usr13minimalist: crunchbang is openbox I think which is kind of a stripped down sort of GUI.08:00
clctodr_willis: the difference is that it will still have all the gnome packages08:00
minimalistusr13, ya but it has some other issues as well08:00
dr_willistheres to many  good tools out there that need gnome. :) so it dosent matter if the wm uses gnome or not to me.08:00
dr_willisits the programs you run that matter more i find.08:01
minimalistlike my crunch bang installation parked my hdd heads every minute08:01
NeonSpeedHas anybody been on the latest Fedora?08:01
usr13minimalist: I'm sure it does, and support would be harder to come by.08:01
minimalisthdparm -B 255 did not have any effect!!!!08:01
clctoNeonSpeed: ot08:01
raptor67682there are different version of raspberry=? how to recognize them=?08:01
NeonSpeedot?08:01
raptor67682is there big differetnce bettween them?08:01
dr_willisraptor67682:   theres an A and a B.08:01
clcto!ot | NeonSpeed08:01
ubottuNeonSpeed: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:02
dr_willisyou want a B most likely.08:02
dr_willis$35 or so.08:02
dr_willisand the Pi's do NOT run ubuntu08:02
raptor67682ahhh many thanks08:02
raptor67682this channel is so cool08:02
raptor67682ubbuntu will go on it ... but i plan an ubuntu server install08:02
dr_willisthere is NO UBUNTU for the Pi - as far as i know.08:03
NeonSpeedclcto, I wasn't gonna ask for any advice on it, was just curious08:03
raptor67682DO NOT RUN UBUNTU ?? why ????????????08:03
clctoNeonSpeed: still ot08:03
dr_willisit CAN NOT run ubuntu. the Arm cpu is not   enough for ubuntu.08:03
minimalisti was a slackware fella .. apt got me to buntu08:03
dr_willisit has an arm 5 , ubuntu wants a 608:03
dr_willisor somthing like that08:03
raptor67682but you can do a debian install then====?`?```?08:03
dr_willisraptor67682:  'rasbian' is the debian port for the Pi.08:03
raptor67682(on the pi )08:04
raptor67682support08:04
dr_willistheres dozens of other disrtos and os's for the pi as well08:04
raptor67682i preffer debian, it is cleaner08:04
raptor67682super08:04
clctohttp://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads08:04
dr_willisand theres the #raspberry-pi channel08:04
dr_willisand 1000's of info sites08:04
lemonsparrowI am using ubuntu 10.10 maverick.. is there any way I can upgrade this to higher versions without having to format or something ?08:04
dr_willis!eol |  lemonsparrow08:05
ubottulemonsparrow: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades08:05
clctolemonsparrow: apt get dist-upgrade08:05
dr_willisfollow that last url08:05
dr_willisyou dont dist-upgrade to a new release. ;)08:05
clctodr_willis: what? really?08:05
lemonsparrowclcto: dr_willis ubottu so basically is it possible ?08:05
clctoi thought that is what it was for08:05
clctolemonsparrow: yes08:05
dr_willislemonsparrow:  its very possible.. see the url given above08:05
dr_willismay be fasster to do a clean install however08:06
lemonsparrowhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades right ?08:06
Johnny_Linuxbigtime faster08:06
clctodr_willis: and it will be "clean" :)08:06
Johnny_Linux10.10 was pretty good while it lasted08:06
dr_willis'dist-upgrade' is a more intensive upgrade to the same release..08:06
dr_willisdo-release-upgrade to get to the next release08:06
lemonsparrowclcto: I need to start from requirements steps in that link ?08:06
clctodr_willis: ok. my b08:07
dr_willislemonsparrow:  step 1 would be to backup your current system in case the upgradeing fails.. an it can fail badly08:07
lemonsparrowdr_willis: god08:07
lemonsparrowdr_willis: I dont have much to back up08:07
dr_willisUnless you really have a fancy setup.. a clean install will most likely  be MIUCH faster08:07
lemonsparrowdr_willis: though I wish it happened fine the first time08:08
lemonsparrowdr_willis: ok08:08
lemonsparrowdr_willis: I need a step by step procedure08:08
dr_willisyou must upgrade from one release to the next.. untill you get to a LTS release - then you upgrade from LTS to LTS08:08
dr_willis then upgrade to the next non-lts release.. one step at a time.08:08
lemonsparrowdr_willis: the commands ??08:09
dr_willisso from 10.10 to 13.04  may take several upgrade08:09
dr_willisI dont memorize the commands.. thats what that url is for.08:09
dr_willisid do a clean install i the system is that old08:09
dr_willisand not much to it08:09
minimalistwhy does my install say /tmp is not ready  whist booting?08:09
minimalistwhy does my install say "/tmp is not ready " whist booting?08:10
dr_willisif the release is allready eol. you will need to alter your sources.list first i belive08:10
minimalist12.04 lts08:10
dr_willisif the servers have been moved to the archive servers.08:10
dr_willis!lts08:10
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)08:10
nyuszika7hhi, I got the PulseAudio bell working with "load-sample-lazy x11-bell /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg" and "load-module module-x11-bell sample=x11-bell" in /etc/pulse/default.pa, but is there a way to make this use the currently set alert sound in system settings? I can't find any symlinks to the alert sound in /usr08:11
dr_willis10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 ->  12.04         that will be like  3gb of downloads i bet08:11
lemonsparrowdr_willis: I am not understanding much from that link.. my version is 10.1008:11
dr_willislemonsparrow:  and what special setup do you have on that machine that you cant recreate on a newly  installed system?08:12
lemonsparrowdr_willis: nothing much08:13
dr_willislemonsparrow:  by the time you got upgraded to 11.04 - you could have allready done a celan install of 12.04 i imagine.08:13
dr_willisunless you want to  not sttick to LTS and go with 13.04 ;)   then  go with  a clean install of 13.0408:14
usr13lemonsparrow: Just backup /home/lemonsparrow and do clean install.08:14
wilee-nileeminimalist, There was a bug reported on this at one time, are you all updated?08:14
ashokhello08:16
usr13lemonsparrow: Only takes about an hour or so on a pretty fast PC08:16
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lemonsparrowdr_willis: usr13 so all I need to run on the terminal is sudo clean install ?08:16
lemonsparrowusr13: apart from the backup ?08:16
usr13lemonsparrow: No, clean install means you star over and do a fresh new install.08:16
usr13lemonsparrow: Do you have /home/ on a separate partition?08:17
lemonsparrowusr13: how to do it is my question  :)08:17
lemonsparrowusr13: I have windows too in my machine and I had installed ubuntu 10.10 using qubi08:17
usr13lemonsparrow: If so, you can just tell it to leave /home/ where it is and use the same user name.08:17
lemonsparrowwubi*08:17
usr13lemonsparrow: Oh, you mean *wubi*?08:17
lemonsparrowusr13: I am not that smart in ubuntu so a step by step command guide would be great08:17
lemonsparrowusr13: yes08:18
usr13lemonsparrow: That is a horse of a different color.  It's not a real install, wubi is sort of like a demo08:18
lemonsparrowusr13: :(08:18
usr13lemonsparrow: I suggest you ditch wubi and do a real install.08:18
aeon-ltdonly if you're serious about ubuntu08:18
nabblethi, i use an lenove t43p - when i want to run geparted (sudo and gksudo) it seems to be stuck ad detection (scans devices for ever). My log's show that i have lots of buffer i/o error on device fd0 - so i suspect gparted is stuck at scanning the floppy - which does not exist. the weired thing is: i have already blocked the flopy entry from fstab - it is still there. 1) how do i get gparted to ignoer the floppy 2) should i take care of that phantom flppy de08:19
lemonsparrowusr13: dont have source to do it08:19
nabblets/ad/at08:19
usr13lemonsparrow: Just back up anything in /home/lemonsparrow that you need to keep and do a Ubuntu 12.04 LTS install, (dual boot).08:19
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usr13lemonsparrow: "source"?08:20
dr_willisyou should of said it was wubi earlier. ;)08:20
dr_willisyou really dont want to upgrade wubi instgalls08:20
lemonsparrowusr13: no image to do it08:20
ashoksahooHi, I am using a proprietary embedded system which boots and works on live (usb) but on installing it doesnt get pass the boot menu08:20
usr13lemonsparrow: You can't download it?08:20
clctoashoksahoo: and how does it fail08:21
nabbletashoksahoo: are you using the normal install cd? maybe try the alternet CD - might be that the normal one is too heavy08:21
clctonabblet: if he can use the live environment it shouldnt be to heavy08:21
nabbletashoksahoo: usually on embedded system (very limited ressources) your best go is to use the minimal iso image.08:21
nabbletclcto: oh, you're right08:21
ashoksahoonabblet: no, the video driver is not there, so I installed via alternate install08:21
dr_williswhat ubuntu verion are you installing?08:22
usr13lemonsparrow: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts08:22
ashoksahoois there any way to boot into a very safe mode with minimal drivers from grub08:23
nabbletashoksahoo: in that case: what exactly happens. i guess you use grub for boot08:24
nabbletashoksahoo: yes - but i'm not an expert on that08:24
dr_willis!text08:24
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode08:24
wilee-nileeashoksahoo, You have a link where you got this usb install?08:24
ashoksahooI followed this step by step http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-a-minimal-ubuntu-on-old-laptop/2012/02/2408:25
nabblethi, i use an lenove t43p - when i want to run geparted (sudo and gksudo) it seems to be stuck ad detection (scans devices for ever). My log's show that i have lots of buffer i/o error on device fd0 - so i suspect gparted is stuck at scanning the floppy - which does not exist. the weired thing is: i have already blocked the flopy entry from fstab - it is still there. 1) how do i get gparted to ignoer the floppy 2) should i take care of that phantom floppy d08:25
dr_willisashoksahoo:  and what ubuntu release are you installing?08:26
ashoksahoo11.1008:26
dr_willisnabblet:  disable the floppy in bios perhaps08:26
nabbletI tried now with gksude gparted /dev/sda to ignore the floppy - same result. i don't see any disk activity either.08:26
ashoksahoo*13.1008:26
ashoksahooI have a Live of 11.10 and I used the latest minimal iso08:27
nabbletdr_willis: ok, i will look into that. which leaves me with the more concerning question: why can't gparted use my hdd?08:27
lemonsparrowubottu: I can download it but how to have it alongside windows is a concern08:27
ubottulemonsparrow: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:27
dr_willisnabblet:  no idea.  if yu think ths the floppy causing issues.. stick in a disk. or disable it08:27
clctonabblet: it can, it scans all drives before you can do anything. is there a flag you can pass it to scan only some drives08:27
lemonsparrowusr13: I can download it but how to have it alongside windows is a concern08:28
nabbletdr_willis: i don't have a floppy drive at all - i don't know how ubuntu got the idea there might be one08:28
lemonsparrowusr13: I am downloading the image now08:28
wilee-nileeashoksahoo, 13.10 is in development is this what you installed with?08:28
nabbletclcto: yes. i am currently doing that: gksudo gparted /dev/sda08:28
nabblet/dev/sda is my hdd - i checked08:28
dr_willisnabblet:  weird. it might still have a bios setting..08:28
clctonabblet: can you use parted?08:29
nabbletdr_willis: yeah...08:29
ashoksahoowilee-nilee, wait let me double check08:29
nabbletclcto: sudo parted /dev/sda works like charm Oo08:30
clctonabblet: then just use that :)08:30
ashoksahoowilee-nilee no using 13.0408:31
nabbletclcto: will do... still it's a bit spooky gparted is wrecked...08:31
wilee-nileeashoksahoo, Ah good, on a minimal install you have to install the desktop did you? So this is a boot problem right?08:32
clctonabblet: yeah, no idea. especially since gparted is just supposed to be a wrapper for parted08:32
nabbletclcto: yeah08:32
ashoksahoowilee-nilee, yes its a boot problem, its locking up the puny handheld pc08:33
nabbletclcto: maybe it is related to me using fluxbox? although i never had any problems...08:33
clctonabblet: wm shouldnt be an issue08:33
nabbletclcto: also that disk manager works without complayer08:33
nabblet*complaint08:33
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | ashoksahoo try this08:33
ubottuashoksahoo try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:33
clctonabblet: i use gparted with notion all the time08:33
wilee-nileeashoksahoo, You installed a desktop?08:34
ashoksahoook, thank you, I will update08:34
clcto'all the time' may be an overstatement08:34
nabbletclcto: hm. gparted never had any trouble for me08:35
nabbletclcto: uhm... when calling gparted with /dev/sda i still get error logs about my fd008:37
nabbleteither something else is causing that errors, or gparted ignores the flag08:37
nabbletcan some1 verify that gparted ignores the device flag? ubuntu 12.10?08:40
wilee-nileenabblet, You might check the smart info in the disks app08:40
nabbletwhen using sudo gparted /dev/sda it get's stuck with trying to scan a non-existing fd0 device08:40
nabbletwilee-nilee: the what of the what?08:41
ashoksahoowilee-nilee yes installed a desktop, but i just want cli, coz I know the embeded system has problem with graphics driver08:41
nabbletwilee-nilee: smart says it is ok08:41
wilee-nileenabblet, there is an app called disks it is a partitioner, but it has a gear drop down top right corner that is part of the smart check on HD, usb's..etc08:42
albertskype webcam problem08:42
alberthelp me to solve skype webcam problem08:42
karab44hi08:42
clctonabblet: what happens if you just run sudo parted (no device)08:42
cfhowlettkarab44, greetings08:42
clctoalbert: you need to be more descriptive08:42
cfhowlett!details|albert,08:43
ubottualbert,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."08:43
albertwebcam is disabled in skype08:43
nabbletclcto: works no problem. i get calls on fd0 too, but that does not hinder it from working08:43
clctoalbert: does it work elsewhere>08:43
albertyes08:43
wilee-nileeashoksahoo, Yu describe a puny handheld computer, does it have the hardware to run what you have installed?08:43
wilee-nileeYou*08:44
albertit works on youtube08:44
clctonabblet: yeah gparted must be f, i mean messed up08:44
albertit works good on youtube08:44
albertskype did not showed my cam08:45
karab44Can anybody give me a clue how to make that TightVNC server starts on my session only and x11vnc on guests and others?08:45
clctokarab44: .xinitrc>08:45
nabbletclcto: hm, one question. if you go parted and the enter select08:45
ashoksahoowilee-nilee it runs xp, it has half decent atom cpu with unsupported video gma 50008:45
karab44clcto: yes...08:46
nabbletclcto: without anything else. does it list you the current device, or all devices you may select08:46
clctonabblet: havent used parted in ages, don't really know08:46
nabbletclcto: i think i was wrong - parted does not access the fd008:46
nabbletclcto: just do a quick check please08:46
nabbletclcto: it won't modify anything08:46
yeehiduring installation of wheezy and using auto partitioning, it creates a /boot partition. By default, this partition is not set to "bootable". Why? Do we manually have to set it to bootable to get it to work?08:46
clctoim not on ubuntu08:46
nabbletclcto: the point is: fd0 is not shown in parted - so maybe it is (rightfully) ignored by parted08:47
wilee-nileeashoksahoo, It is hard to tell what computer you have, and what you have actually installed, these are key points.08:47
karab44clcto: I will have a look at this .xinitrc . Is it somewhere in /etc/ ?08:47
clctokarab44: it is in your home folder.08:47
karab44oh08:47
clctomodify yours and then modify the /etc one to do what you want the default to do08:47
karab44so it lunches during the session I presume08:47
ashoksahoohttp://www.datalogictechnologies.com/index.php/products/universal-handheld-devices/models-universal-handheld-devices/product/49-uhd08:47
nabbletclcto: ok, i did sudo parted /dev/fs0 - i get errors loged (no surprise) but then parted says: yeah well, read-only then and works on08:49
ashoksahoowilee-nilee, installed 13.04 minimal with ubuntu desktop08:49
albertskype webcam detection please help08:49
clctoGNU Parted 3.108:49
clctoUsing /dev/sda08:49
clctoWelcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.08:49
clcto(parted) select08:49
clctoNew device?  [/dev/sda]?08:49
FloodBot1clcto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:49
nabbletclcto: so gparted sould do that too08:49
dr_willisyeehi:   wheezy is not ubuntu.. and as far as i know. grub/linux dosent care about the bootable flag08:49
nabbletclcto: yeah, that's what i have too08:49
nabbletclcto: do you have any other /dev/sd* in your computer?08:49
clctosorry guys that was all supposed to go to /msg nabblet08:49
dr_willisalbert:  check askubuntu.com yet?  skype can be a pain08:50
clctono08:50
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nabbletclcto: a moment let me go for the external hdd and see the response08:50
=== CyberJacob|Away is now known as CyberJacob
wilee-nileeashoksahoo, That wont run the ubuntu desktop, and whether it will run ubuntu at all I would question, it says linux though.08:51
karab44clcto: I do not have such .xinitrc file. Do I have to create it there?08:52
ashoksahooyep, should try it once more i guess, running the install leaving for lunch, will update08:53
wilee-nileeashoksahoo, I would start with something like puppy linux.08:53
wilee-nilee512 memory would run a cli setup but its a rather unusual device is all.08:53
yeehithanks, dr_willis - i posted in the wrong channel!08:54
nabbletclcto: well - it does not list the devices available. so no news..08:54
uuyo08:56
uunuendo08:56
uuhow do i get sound working in lmms?08:57
karab44how to move between desktops?08:57
uulike i can play mp3 but theres no sound08:57
clctokarab44: depends on your wm/de08:57
karab44I have host:0 and host:108:57
karab44gnome/unity08:57
karab44im on ubuntu 12.0408:57
uuno work though im sure08:58
uuit recognizes my soundcard08:58
karab44so how to switch that thing on ?08:58
karab44I tried ctrl+alt F8 but it's black08:58
karab44so where is my second desktop at?08:58
Johnny_Linuxive never used unity, maybe try ctrl+alt  arrow left/right08:59
dr_willistry the  other alt-crtl-f#'s ?08:59
karab44all of them08:59
karab44so first six are terminals, 7th is current and rest is black08:59
uuwhat is the keyboard command for window view?09:00
uufor what is open09:00
karab44new X desktop is host:109:00
karab44but where is it? :D09:00
karab44of course tightvnc told me that.09:01
karab44ok I got it09:02
karab44but it is only a wallpaper09:03
nabblethi, what's the kernel that should be used on an up-to date 12.10 ubuntu?09:04
karab44ok I think I have to customize my session... :P09:04
jonascjAnyone using KVM on their ubuntu? I think my /var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock have the wrong permissions. I should be owned by root:libvirtd, shouldn't it? Mine is owned by root:root ...09:05
lord4163nabblet: I don't know, why you don't upgrade to 13.04? :P09:06
BluesKaj'Morning all09:08
nabbletlord4163: never touch a running system :P09:08
nabbletto be honest - i think the release cycles of ubuntu are too fast... if i'd go with it, i'd get to upgrade whenever i finished to configure the system to my satisfaction - but that's ot :P09:08
nabbletusually i go for LTS only09:08
lord4163nabblet: yeah, that's why I run Ubuntu 12.04, the lazy sysadmin (actually elementary os which is based of ubuntu 12.04)09:09
cfhowlettBluesKaj, here's giggle.  After 4 years of rebooting my dualie to reset the frarking wifi hardware switch cuz my finger slipped and rfkill rarely worked ... I learned that I actually could reset it in ubuntu with ctrl-f2.  Facepalm.09:10
albertmy discs are not showing please help09:10
nabbletdr_willis: clcto thank you two - i going to see what i can do about that fd0 thing. it is really wired. could it be that it is mistaken for something else? e.g. my laptop is in a docking station right now09:11
nabbleti'll report back09:11
cfhowlett!details|albert, discs?  what discs?09:11
ubottualbert, discs?  what discs?: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:11
BluesKajcfhowlett, ah , nice to know09:12
albertmy d drive and e drive are not showing on desktop09:12
cfhowlettalbert, and those are physical drives?09:13
albertyes09:13
alberti mean partitions09:14
cfhowlettalbert, how did you make the parts?09:14
albertusing windows09:14
cfhowlettalbert, yes...09:14
cfhowlettalbert, you know the deal.  use ubuntu to make ubuntu partitions ... windows doesn't always play nice.09:14
alberti need to get that data09:15
alberthow to do that09:15
cfhowlettalbert, boot your ubuntu usb.  fire up gparted.  partition.09:16
dr_willismounting windows drives in linux?09:17
albertdiscs are not showing09:23
uuanyone alive?09:29
uuwhat is the shortcut to show the 'wall' where i can choose a window?09:30
lovethecodeDouble click on icon on left pane?09:31
uusuper+w09:31
lovethecodeAh09:31
clue_hlovethecode, super key and s09:33
clue_hwrong person sorry09:33
nabbletdr_willis: clcto : you were right. i had to disable something floppy related in bios (lenovo laptops seem to have pretty much stuff... i even hadn an infrared connection i didn't know about XD )09:34
nabbletdr_willis: clcto now, the fd0 stuff is gone, and gparted works09:35
nabblet!kdm09:35
zimbohow can i upgrade to the latest version of python? will it break anything?09:35
MonkeyDustzimbo  if you want soemthing beyond the repos, tou need a ppa, but that's not supported here09:36
MonkeyDusttypos*09:36
clue_hzimbo, no you'll just have a separate install09:36
zimboi see09:37
zimbothanks09:37
RedoriMy doesn't work.09:40
nabbletuhm, the bot should know about kdm09:40
nabbletit is a packages09:40
pawellHi. Is anyone willing? http://wehack.it/hackathons/54-kivy-online-hackathon :) http://kivy.org/#home09:40
nabblet*package09:40
RedoriOnly in alsamixer is Beep09:40
MonkeyDustpawell  the question being?09:40
RedoriEARSPEAKER in use speaker volume doesn't have.09:41
RedoriNo sound :(09:41
cfhowlett!details|pawell, willing?  no.09:41
ubottupawell, willing?  no.: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:41
zimbothere is python 3.3 in the software center - is it 3.3.2?09:41
pawellubottu MonkeyDust: I'm sorry, I wanted to advertise online hackathon.09:43
ubottupawell: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:43
RedoriOnly EARSPEAKER not works , only in alsamixer is Beep09:43
Redoritry :(09:45
Redoriin windows EARSPEAKER does09:46
Redoritry try try09:47
Redoridoes talking here?09:47
Redorispeaker doesn't have EARSPEAKER doesn't ubuntu the sound alsamixer Beep only09:48
Redoriwindow only09:48
cfhowlettRedori, what is your first language???09:48
RedoriBeep09:49
* cfhowlett ... thinks that google translate isn't really helping here ...09:49
RedoriBeep only in alsamixer09:49
Redorino sound09:50
MackwerkHey! I just installed a nvidia nvs 310 and plugged my 2 monitors into the slots, but only one monitor can be found, does anyone know how to fix that?09:50
bekksMackwerk: Did you run nvidia-settings?09:51
RedoriBeep only in alsamixer09:51
Mackwerkbekks, yes, I've been in that one, there's only x screen 0 and gpu 009:51
RedoriEARSPEAKER doesn't sound09:53
bekksRedori: What is your mother tongue?09:53
Redoriyes09:53
MackwerkAh! if I swtich the cords around it works :)09:54
cfhowlettbekks, pretty sure he's running a translator ... for all the good that's doing.09:54
cfhowlettRedori, question ...09:54
bekkscfhowlett: Thats why I tried to change the phrase :)09:54
grahamsavage.09:54
Redori:D09:54
cfhowlettRedori, what language do you speak?09:55
mariappphi people, i have installed eclipse in ubuntu with plugin sdk for mobile applications09:55
RedoriBeep09:55
* cfhowlett .... and I'm officially out.09:55
mariapppmy problem is ... i can't see android emulator.09:55
bekksMackwerk: Did you install the android emulator?09:56
cfhowlettmariappp, ^^^^09:56
mariapppyes09:56
Mackwerkbekks, the android emulator? No, I dont have that :o09:56
bekksI think I need to get a coffee first :)09:56
grahamsavagecfhowlett: I think one of the african ones09:57
Redorino sound09:57
mariapppi download the pack which is everything incorpored for linux09:57
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, too broad ...09:57
mariapppin eclipse webpage.09:57
Redorionly windows sound ::09:57
bekksRedori: http://translate.google.de/#en/de/What%20is%20your%20native%20language%3F09:58
grahamsavageRedori: Africa?09:58
grahamsavagecfhowlett: not for me.. narrows it down to languages i don't know :D09:58
grahamsavageenglish / chinese / tiny bit of french :D09:58
RedoriLANGUAGE09:59
* cfhowlett ... this is just getting better and better.09:59
mariapppwhy did u ask about native language @bekks?10:00
cfhowlettmariappp, there are several IRC channels in with other than english support10:01
grahamsavagei find most of the time, i can do a better job of translating what they ask if they just write in their original language10:01
cfhowlett!fr|Redori,10:01
ubottuRedori,: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.10:01
grahamsavagei much prefer getting sent chinese than broken-english10:01
mariapppsorry for my english10:02
grahamsavagecfhowlett: very limited though, if your not one of the top 8 languages10:02
mariapppi just wanted to ask for about eclipse.10:02
cfhowlettgrahamsavage, I'm in China.  Whatever he's speaking isn't Chinese.10:02
grahamsavageis there a portuagese? channel?10:03
Redorino sound10:03
grahamsavagemarienz, : your english is good10:03
cfhowlettmariappp, you should probably ask the #eclipse or #android10:03
grahamsavagei mean mariappp10:03
cfhowlett!pr|Redori,10:03
cfhowlett!br|Redori,10:03
ubottuRedori,: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.10:03
grahamsavagecfhowlett: thankyou... no thankyou :D10:04
marienz\o/10:04
Redoristop talk10:04
cfhowlettRedori, no english?10:05
grahamsavageholy-crap they even have a brazillian channel :D .. awesome10:05
cfhowlett!translate10:05
chillpil1_Usage: !translate FromLanguage ToLanguage Word or Phrase to translate10:05
ubottuTranslate Ubuntu into your own language, important translations that are needed are listed first. See https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/10:05
Redorino sound ubuntu10:05
mariappp@cfholett thanks, i am going to look for in android channel.... thank so much, danke, merçi, gracias, obrigada...........10:05
Redoribut windows does sound10:06
cfhowlettmariappp, best of luck10:06
bl4ckdu5tHow can I use the "rm" function to remove all the files with a particular name from my drive10:07
bl4ckdu5tJust like the "del -s" works on windows OS10:07
cfhowlettbl4ckdu5t, rm **.wildcard10:08
grahamsavagebl4ckdu5t: i'd use the locate function to make a list10:08
Redorii outed you stop talk !!!10:08
cfhowlettbl4ckdu5t, but you better be darn certain you've filtered for non-essential files10:08
bekksbl4ckdu5t: You have to find them first an delete them. Test like this: find / -type f -name nameofthe.file -exec echo {} \;10:09
* cfhowlett ... "outed"?10:09
Redoriout10:09
bekksbl4ckdu5t: If it find the files your want to delete, replace echo with rm -f10:09
cfhowlettRedori, are you even reading the messages we send you?10:09
grahamsavagebl4ckdu5t: actually if it's unique enough cfhowlett solution will work .. but you need to make sure that that file name is not included in any part of the path10:09
grahamsavageRedori:  we can not understand you.  Which country are you?10:10
bekksgrahamsavage: He's in Canada. But doesnt speak english or french.10:11
MonkeyDustgrahamsavage  what' is your own language?10:11
bl4ckdu5tbekks: I am trying that now10:11
ravenhello, is there anything better than vmware for ubuntu?10:12
MonkeyDustaddressed wrong person, apologies10:12
bekksraven: VirtualBox: www.virtualbox.org10:12
raventyvm10:12
cfhowlettraven, better than?  subjective.  virtualbox is a good virtualizer opttion10:12
grahamsavageMonkeyDust: english10:12
grahamsavageoh no worries10:13
bl4ckdu5tWhat happened was that I put my external hard disk drive in a windows computer with the nimda virus which created readme.eml files in all my folders10:13
bekksbl4ckdu5t: Then just pust readme.eml into the cvommand above instead of the filename placeholder.10:13
grahamsavagebl4ckdu5t: oh how annoying10:14
grahamsavagebl4ckdu5t: that's probably pretty safe then as readme.eml is fairly unique10:14
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bl4ckdu5tbut one more thing it did was to add a few lines to my HTML files and I was thinking if there's a way I can grep the HTML files to delete some lines containing its script it'll also be helpful10:16
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bl4ckdu5tI've successfully deleted the readme.eml files now10:16
backwardshi10:17
cfhowlettbackwards, greetings10:18
backwardscfhowlett, i have a question10:19
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cfhowlett!ask10:19
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:19
backwardsyou can't see who's checked out your facebook page, can you?10:19
bekksbackwards: How is that related to Ubuntu? :)10:20
backwardsits not. i just needed a quick answer. no one else to ask10:20
cfhowlettbackwards, not an ubuntu issue.  sorry10:20
MonkeyDustbackwards  wrong channel10:20
backwardsthats now how this channel was last night10:21
backwardsbut whatever10:21
abdou_001lol long live windows10:21
bekksbackwards: related to ubuntu support - yes, it is :)10:21
backwardsim taking a linux class so ill stay here until i need real help10:21
abdou_001screw linux10:21
abdou_001its complicated10:21
abdou_001os10:21
abdou_001long live windows10:22
MonkeyDustabdou_001  thank you for calling us smart10:22
cfhowlettabdou_001, if it's too much for you, you're free to go back to windows.10:22
abdou_001windows ruuules10:22
hdonhi all. i want to reclaim "alt+right mouse button" for applications. right now it opens the window menu. i can't find it in keyboard settings. help!10:22
abdou_001between us10:22
abdou_001windows is better10:22
abdou_001dosnt it10:22
MonkeyDustabdou_001  please go away10:22
bl4ckdu5tabdou_001: You should probably tell Bill Gates he may give you a thousand dollars10:22
* cfhowlett ... milk and cookies kept him awake again, I see.10:22
ikoniaabdou_001: you're welcome back in the channel - but please don't try to troll again.10:23
backwardswhat>10:23
backwards?10:23
* cfhowlett ... knows he's too unforgiving to be a channel moderator.10:24
abdou_001ok10:24
backwardsi dont think you know what trolling is10:24
backwardsi just asked a question, and i get it. only ubuntu stuff here10:24
ikoniabackwards: no-one spoke to you10:24
abdou_001if ther s somthing wrong in liking windows ..... iwont10:24
ikoniabackwards: hence why I said abdou_001's name10:24
bl4ckdu5thehe!10:24
ikoniaabdou_001: you're welcoe to love an use windows as much as you want,10:24
backwardsoops10:25
abdou_001i v got a qt about mandriva10:25
cfhowlett!topic|abdou_001,10:25
ubottuabdou_001,: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic10:25
cfhowlettabdou_001, ask in #mandriva.10:25
ikoniaabdou_001: then join the mandriva channel, this one only supports ubuntu10:25
abdou_001ah k10:26
abdou_001ok10:26
abdou_001thx10:26
inroelhello everyone, powering on the PC, the start of my desktop deviates from normal in a variety of ways; i.e. sometimes the screen remains purple, and only proceeds when I do ctrl+alt+del to desktop login, or sometimes when restarting (not sure also when turning off and on) it shows command line where it is supposed to lead to login screen, and when I then do ctrl+alt+f7 it carries out a restart process..in other times it just got stuck at login window after10:32
inroelentering password and it then either logged in with ctrl+alt+del, or by pressing long at power button..though these symptoms bear a degree of vagueness, could you maybe have a hint at what the problem may be?10:32
bekksbl4ckdu5t: Please keep it in the channel.10:40
bl4ckdu5tok10:41
bl4ckdu5tI need a clearer explanation of the command: "find / -type f -name nameofthe.file -exec echo {} \;" that was given to me earlier10:42
bekksbl4ckdu5t: At which part?10:42
bl4ckdu5t"-type f" and "-name" do not appear anywhere in the man of find10:43
bekksbl4ckdu5t: They do.10:43
bl4ckdu5talso the "/" after the find command10:43
bekksbl4ckdu5t: The / is the starting point of the search.10:43
bl4ckdu5tok I think I understand10:44
bl4ckdu5tone more thing why is the type f?10:45
bekksbl4ckdu5t: Because you are searching _f_iles.10:45
bl4ckdu5tThanks!10:46
bekksbl4ckdu5t: you're welcome :)10:46
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nabblethi. i use gnome shell, unity and fluxbox. my problem is, that after logging in from gdm, i always get to see that bleu,vertical striped wallpaper that changes over time - no matter what other wallpaper i use in the gui later11:05
nabblethow can i prevent gdm (i suspect it is the culprit) from loading that wallpaper? googled alreday so much :( also i was not able to remove that wallpaper - could not locate it on my hdd. search all places that came to mind in /usr/share11:06
Abhijithi. i want to know the names of two linux games. i forgot the name. first game story is about a future scenario where a scientist create a colony and no one can go out the colony. his child is left outside the colony thet he is the game hero and he come to save the colony. and other game is where a plane clashes in jungle and then we have to save the princes.11:09
Abhijitthose games were in the ubuntu repo11:09
Abhijithelp please.11:13
Ben66Abhijit: thats really not an ubuntu support issue, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic or something like that11:13
anoneehello ubuntuians! is there a way to control chromium volume?11:13
bibi32after booting ubuntu 13.04, it shows up the desktop for a few seconds and then screen is getting completely black, computer is not shut down but I can't see anything on the screen, what should I do?11:15
bibi32it's a new installation, ubuntu 13.04 32bits11:15
anoneebibi32 sounds like a VGA issue?11:16
anoneetry logging in to a unity 2D session11:17
InterWebHi , I want to install ubuntu what do I can do ?11:18
nabbletInterWeb: how firm are you with computers?11:19
bibi32anonee: how can I do that? I have no control over the computer, I can't see anything on the screen unfortunately ...11:19
InterWebnabblet , what ?11:19
InterWeb??11:20
InterWebSorry , My question is how do I can install java jdk on ubuntu ?11:20
anoneebibi32 you can't reach the login screen?11:20
bibi32anonee: during installation, I had picked up "login without asking for the password"11:21
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anoneebibi32 then you'll have to enter some options in the GRUB boot screen, I'll try to find them please wait11:23
bibi32anonee: ok thx, I'm not sure I have grub tough, it's not a side to side installation with windows but ubuntu only on the computer11:24
lord4163Internet13: yes11:25
raptor67682hi11:25
raptor67682if I use a raspberry  pi B , and put it into a box (casing), do it need a extra cooling system??11:26
raptor67682it that reliable, can it burn?11:26
raptor67682I saw on ebay that they sell some Transistor for the PI11:26
shadejhi guys11:27
Ben66raptor67682: ask in #raspberrypi11:27
shadejI installed sublime from a tar file11:27
shadejI can I remove it11:27
shadej?11:27
anoneebibi32 http://www.intdblog.com/2009/09/grub-2-graphical-boot-tips-to-set.html but I suggest that you use the installation CD or flash or whatever you have to boot in live mode and see if your display works, and check whether you're in 2d or 3d mode.11:29
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InterWebbetween openjdk and oracle jdk which one is better to use ?11:30
MonkeyDustInterWeb  the one you like most11:31
InterWebMonkeyDust , I want just use eclipse and android adt :/11:32
MonkeyDustInterWeb  i missed that part in your question11:32
ctwHi! A while ago I changed my keyboard layout from the command line using setxkbmap and now this is the only way I can change the keyboard layout (I used to be able to do it with the KDE keyboard indicator in the task bar). I'd love to get the functionality back to change the layout with the widget in the task bar ... any ideas what I need to do to accomplisht this?11:35
sharperguyWhere can I git clone the latest kernel source tree, and also how many MB would it be?11:35
bibi32anonee: I don't fully understand what's explained on that link, should I change "VGA console modes"?11:35
bibi32anonee: I've just managed to get into my session, I've holded shift during boot, then booted in "graphical recovery mode", now I see the desktop with a low resolution, and it's not getting black, is there some logs or something I should take a look at?11:38
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anoneebibi32 I don't know actually, but I suggest that you try the live mode, and then google how to know whether you're in unity 2d or 3d mode, then depending on the results you may find that installing 12.04 is best for your hardware.11:41
bibi32anonee: based on descriptions in http://askubuntu.com/questions/62001/am-i-using-unity-or-unity-2d, I'd say I'm using unity 3d11:45
anoneebibi32 what's your VGA card model?11:47
naveen_how to install  windows 7 on /dev/sda811:47
naveen_ple11:47
naveen_please help me?11:47
naveen_i can't install windows 7 over my ubuntu11:47
MonkeyDustnaveen_  ask in ##windows how to install windows11:48
naveen_didn't u have any idea11:48
naveen_about that11:48
MonkeyDustnaveen_  what is windows?11:48
streulmaare there Macbook Pro Retina users here? I try to switch from Mac to Ubuntu11:48
craigbass1976is it an Ubuntu, a Xubuntu, or an app specific (might be worse with some, I can't tell yet) behavior -- when I try to open a file, I'm not shown something like the last directory I was in, or sometimes even the directory I'm in currently (like if I already have a file open)  This is a pain when I have to go browsing through the file tree so much after hitting the open button.11:48
anoneeso... anybody got an idea about how to control the volume of individual apps under 12.04?11:48
naveen_i mean i want to install windows 7 over on of the sda partition11:49
naveen_but i can't do11:49
bl4ckdu5tnaveen_: Do you want to install windows as a virtual machine on your Ubuntu?11:49
craigbass1976naveen_, traditionally (and I haven't dual booted in years -- I think I last did it with '98 on my own PC) windows needs to go on first11:49
MonkeyDustanonee  system settings > Sound > applications11:49
naveen_no actually i dont wan't that11:49
naveen_i wanna make dual boot11:49
naveen_with ubuntuj11:49
streulmais there a reason why I switch over from Mac to Ubuntu?11:50
craigbass1976naveen_, have you formatted /dev/sd8 to be blank, with no filesystem even?  Sometimes when you format ntfs from ubuntu Windows still has a hissy and won't see the partition11:50
anoneeMonkeyDust WOW! and this got a memory?11:50
MonkeyDustanonee  not sure what you mean11:51
streulmaIs Ubuntu better than Mac ?11:51
bazhang!ot | streulma11:52
ubottustreulma: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:52
MonkeyDuststreulma  depends on what you like most11:52
anoneeMonkeyDust I mean does it save the volume setting till next session? nvm I'll just try that, but thank you!11:52
MonkeyDustanonee  it does :)11:52
naveen_so what i need to do11:53
streulmaI mean I have a retina and want to know if that's compatible with Ubuntu11:53
bibi32anonee: it's  RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650]11:53
MonkeyDuststreulma  use a live dvd or usb and try it, to find out11:54
ikoniastreulma: there are known font issues11:54
lord4163streulma: Ubuntu runs well on Macs AFAIK11:54
ikoniastreulma: the dots per inch cause a problem for the fonts11:54
craigbass1976naveen_, I don't know who else is coaching you, but I'd wipe the partition of everything (including a filesystem) and see if Windows will install on it.  You will probably have to fix the boot loader if things are the same as they were years ago11:54
streulmaikonia: is it to solving ?11:55
ikoniastreulma: not at this time11:55
anoneebibi32 again, try the live session, experience with the performance, until you know for sure what's best for your hardware :D11:55
SkeptixHi, I randomly have an irq error that breaks my dvb card. I would like to automatically reboot my computer after that error. What would be the simplest way to do that?11:55
streulmaikonia: what to do then ? Not run Ubuntu? :)11:56
ikoniastreulma: I believe that's the current solution, or accept the limitation11:56
SkeptixRight now with my noob skills, I would go for a cron script that check if "dmesg" outputs the error11:57
karab44Hello11:58
karab44I have a question: When I type users in terminal I see: karab44 karab44. Is this correct? Why account is doubled? I am on 1204desktop11:59
karab44users command11:59
lord4163streulma: so next time you don't have to buy proprietary expensive closed laggy hardware/software :)12:00
karab44anybody?12:03
craigbass1976I'm kind of curious -- is what I was telling naveen still true?  Windows needs to generally go on to a drive first, and if it went on second you have to go back and fix grub?12:03
streulmacraigbass1976: yes update-grub will find Windows :)12:04
craigbass1976karab44, sounds like users shows everyone logged into the system.  I was in a terminal, did su - to someone else, but still only saw the user that fired up the terminal when I typed users.  If I did a ctrl alt f1 and logged in, THEN typed users, I saw both.  Are you in twice somehow?12:05
karab44I am logged in only in xsession12:09
karab44but wait I discussing it already on #linux12:09
karab44ok solved12:11
karab44it was because I was using gnome-terminal12:11
karab44and xsession12:11
nabblethi12:12
nabbletwhen i log in from gdm, gnomes defualt background (blue, vertical stripes) flashes up for a short moment. am i the only one who has that?12:13
nabbletAND: how can i get it away?12:13
ignaciohi12:16
ignaciothe < and > keys don't work in my external keyboard. It's a PS2 keyboard connected to USB through an adapter. Any help?12:17
nabbletwhen i log in from gdm, gnomes defualt background (blue, vertical stripes) flashes up for a short moment. am i the only one who has that?12:20
TimthorHello. Is there anyone, who setup Jack+Pulseaudio ?12:24
ciako73ciao a tutti12:24
cfhowlett!it|ciako73,12:25
ubottuciako73,: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)12:25
cfhowlett!ubuntustudio|timthor12:25
ubottutimthor: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org12:25
ciako73thank you...is the first time I acced...12:25
cfhowlettTimthor, jack is a popular (?) topic of discussion in #us ...12:25
nabblethi, anyone here who uses gnome3?12:27
Timthorcfhowlett, thank u for the link, but i only need to commutate my microphone&mplayer to IDJC12:27
bekks!anyone|nabblet12:27
ubottunabblet: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.12:27
shadejI installed sublime editor from tar file, how can I uniinstall it?12:27
bekksshadej: Hopefully the tarball provides a readme.12:27
shadejbekks: I dont have the tar file now, I deleted it12:28
bekksshadej: Then you are out of luck.12:28
nabbletwhen ever i log in from gdm, the gnome default wallpaper (blue vertical stripes) flashes up before the aktual GUI (unity, fluxbox, gnome3, gnome2, ...) loads? can some1 please verify? and also how can i change that12:29
shadejbekks: what? I cant uninstall it?12:29
nabbleti asked in ghaome and they said it is a bug that got fixed in 3.8. we use 3.6. so my new plan is to repace the file in file basis to the image i want. but i can't locate the defualt image :(12:29
nabbletit is very frustrating12:29
cfhowlettshadej, get the .tar again, read the readme12:29
nabbletgot it!12:31
ice9Are there other alternatives for ownCloud?12:32
cfhowlett!cloud12:32
ubottuThe Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC), powered by Eucalyptus, is highly configurable and customizable to a variety of environments. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC12:32
TimthorIs there any alternatives to broadcast in Icecast2 (can't setup Jack to catch audio from my microphone)12:36
A1ReconIn wget the downloaded data size is shown in bytes... right??12:37
TracyI have installed Lubuntu 13.04 on a Dell Inspiron 1300 but do not know how disable the "tap to click" on the touchpad12:38
jhutchins!touchpad12:38
ubottuFor a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad12:39
TracyThank you.12:39
TimthorIs there anyone, who setup Jack+Pulseaudio ?12:41
shadejcfhowlett: I downloaded it but there is no any readme file any other way?12:42
netaa problem with lubuntu- i just installed lubuntu 13.04 allong side windows 7, and when i rebooted i got a black screen. if i open my computer without the usb-stick it goes straight to windows. if i use the usb-stick it offers me to install or try without installing.. when i tried to reinstall it told me it is allready installed (i reinstalled anyway, the same...). ichecked for defacts and it was fine. the iso is correct. what can it be?12:42
BluesKajHi all again12:45
TimthorHi12:45
cfhowlett!nomodeset|neta,12:46
ubottuneta,: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter12:46
MonkeyDustBluesKaj  can I pm you?12:47
craigbass1976Timthor, http://www.doopensource.com/applications/stream-audio-with-ubuntu/  Is that helpful at all?  That was my setup at a church.12:47
craigbass1976Timthor, I don't remember having to mess with jack though.12:48
ice9Are there other alternatives for ownCloud?12:49
netacfhowlett: is there a way to do it withput reinstalling lubuntu12:49
Timthorcraigbass1976, when i run jack.plumbing it'perfectly catch sound from mplayer, but can't catch my voice in skype12:50
Timthor*it's12:50
craigbass1976Timthor, I don't know then.12:51
craigbass1976Timthor, I don't know jack. :)12:51
InterWebHow do I can install pycharm in ubuntu12:52
Timthorcraigbass1976, so, how can I set up default jack config?12:52
craigbass1976Timthor, been here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration12:53
pac1trouble getting fgcom to work in next12:55
shadejhow to make my default text editor to be gedit12:56
Timthorcraigbass1976, what's wrong with it:   system:capture_1 -> PulseAudio JACK Source:front-left system:capture_2 -> PulseAudio JACK Source:front-right PulseAudio JACK Sink:front-left -> system:playback_1 PulseAudio JACK Sink:front-right -> system:playback_212:57
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MonkeyDustshadej  right click on text doc > properties > open with > set as default12:58
Timthoris system:capture_1&2 my microphone?12:58
cfhowlettneta, doing the nomodeset scheme doesn't require reinstallation12:58
crunchbanghi , i am form china13:00
cfhowlett!cn|crunchbang,13:00
ubottucrunchbang,: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:00
craigbass1976Timthor, is there a monitor (vu meters) where you can see stuff light up when you tap the mic?13:01
shadejMonkeyDust: that changes only for files with same extension as the one I am changing right now13:01
shadejdo I have to do this manually ? for txt,.java,.html..etc?13:01
MonkeyDustshadej  yes, guess so13:02
Timthorcraigbass1976, no any. Pulsaudio doesn't show my microphone in Input devices13:02
Timthorcraigbass1976, I have only "Jack source" there13:03
BluesKajTimthor, does alsamixer show your mics ?13:03
TimthorBluesKaj, no, it show only Pulseaudio sourse13:05
TimthorBluesKaj, it=alsamixer13:05
TimthorCard: PulseAudio Chip: PulseAudio13:06
BluesKajTimthor, I don't know anything about jack , what about pavucontrol is that what you mean by pulseaudio doesn't show ?13:07
BluesKajyour mics13:08
m0x39hi is anyone using the AMD catalyst drivers here ?13:10
TimthorSorry, lost network connection13:10
Timthorso, alsamixer show only Pulsaudio card and chip13:12
BluesKajTimthor, read this , you might want to remove pulseaudio if you want to use jack , http://jackaudio.org/pulseaudio_and_jack13:12
TimthorBluesKaj, so, how can I stream my skype+mplayer to Icecast2 without Pulseaudio?13:13
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BluesKajTimthor, dunno , I understand that jack is very flexible but a bit complicated , but you shouid be able to do it , maybe the people at the #jack channel can help you.13:16
Timthor#jack or #ubuntu-jack ?13:17
BluesKajwell , try both Timthor13:18
hedkandi\join #gnupg13:22
mdstexit13:22
hedkandi#join13:22
cfhowletthedkandi, wrong slash .... /join #channel13:23
Marleneeanyone know if "htop" support heat measurement13:29
ikoniait doesn't13:29
Marleneewhat programmes support heat measurement  for CPU and ram and HHD ???13:30
ikonialmsensors ?13:30
hedkandihi there13:32
hedkandianyone know what subkeys of a gpg are for?13:32
cfhowletthedkandi, ho there13:32
hedkandicfhowlett, what are subkeys of a gpg key for?13:33
Marleneeikonia : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6047827/13:34
ikoniaMarlenee: why are you pasting that to me ?13:34
cfhowletthedkandi, sorry, IDK13:34
Marleneeerror for lmsensors13:35
bekksWhat does "error for lmsensors" mean?13:35
ikoniaMarlenee: have you read how to configure and set it up ?13:35
Marleneefull info for error - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6047835/13:35
hedkandicfhowlett, that's ok, but I expect someone here does13:35
ikoniaMarlenee: have you read how to configure and set it up ?13:35
hedkandior rather SHOULD13:35
ikoniaMarlenee: also why are you root - the root account in ubuntu is locked13:35
cfhowlett!root|Marlenee,13:37
ubottuMarlenee,: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo13:37
Marleneeits ssh server13:37
ikoniaMarlenee: that's even wose, you shouldn't be able to ssh as root13:38
ignaciowhy?13:42
cfhowlett!who|ignacio,13:42
ubottuignacio,: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)13:42
ignaciosure, ub13:42
ignaciosure, ubottu13:42
ignacioikonia: why?13:42
ikoniaignacio: what ?13:43
ignacioikonia: why shouldn't you ssh as root?13:43
bekksignacio: It is a severe security issue.13:43
ikoniabecause it's locked by default, so you are making a consious effort to unlock the account and unlock your sshd config to an open config13:43
ignacioikonia: besides the default config issue, it it any less safe than non-root ssh + su?13:44
ikoniaignacio: su shouldn't work13:44
ikoniaignacio: yes, ssh'ing directly as root means your root account is open to attack13:44
bekksignacio: su doesnt work unless you made the same effort to unlock your root account.13:45
ignaciobekks: by unlocking root you mean assigning a password to it right?13:45
bekksignacio: Yes.13:45
ikoniait's actually a locked account, and it's disabled in the ssh config13:45
FrameFeverhow can I use the mousewheel to zoom in/out with compiz13:46
FrameFever?13:46
FrameFeverI get only the choice of Button 1-1213:46
FrameFevernot mousewhell13:46
LartzaWhere are console settings stored?13:47
Lartzatty13:47
auronandaceFrameFever: why would you want that for the mousewheel? surely that would intefere with scrolling13:47
turtle_I am going through the book Think Python: Think like a computer scientist. Chapter 4 talks about swampy13:47
turtle_How to use it?13:48
FrameFeverauronandace: I would of course use another modifier like "windows key" + mousewheel13:48
sarthorusing ubuntu .. how can I create group for samba or to create group and give samba credentials ?13:48
sarthori am here on this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-dc.html13:49
turtle_I have downloaded it and extracted in my home folder but not know how to use it13:49
FrameFeverdoesanybody know how to enable it?13:50
LartzaHow do I set my consolefont and layout :/13:50
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mrproperI am trying to install Ubuntu using the mini.iso file. I put in the mirror and it seems to need to download something but doesn't give feedback and stays on a blank screen indefinitely. The debug console shows some sig keys accepted but nothing else.13:52
cfhowlettturtle_, ask in #python13:53
turtle__How to use swampy for Python3.2 I downloaded .tar file and extracted it to home folder but when i type import swampy.TurtleWorld it prints error message13:56
LartzaIt's not saving my settings for god's sake...13:56
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Mk558Am I the only one who has trouble signing in with OpenID to the forums? :)14:03
FrameFeverhow can i add a program shortcut to the taskbar?14:03
Mk558Ubuntu version please?14:03
FrameFever12.04 gnome classic desktop14:04
Mk558In 10.04LTS, I right-click the menu bar, then Add to Panel...14:04
FrameFevernothing here14:04
FrameFevernot context menu14:05
Mk558then there's a little widget process you go through to add a program to the bar14:05
Mk558Couldn't tell you then14:05
FrameFeverwhat?14:05
FrameFeverit is not possible with my version?14:06
Mk558it should be14:06
Mk558http://askubuntu.com/questions/165562/add-apps-to-top-panel-in-ubuntu-12-0414:07
Mk558it seems you can just drag it to the menu bar14:07
Marleneeany idea how to downlaod torrent file on ssh server and after that make it seeding ??14:08
bekksMarlenee: wget them and then seed then using a torrent client/server.14:08
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Marleneei use ssh server so i need idea for using torrent via CLI14:10
auchanhongker_:是这个?14:17
livHi I am using intel compiler and missing the following include folder - /usr/include/c++/4.7/x86_64-linux-gnu - can someone tell me what package i need to install?14:18
hongker_auchan: yes..14:18
bekks!file /usr/include/c++/4.7/x86_64-linux-gnu14:18
bekksliv: You can search packages.ubuntu.com14:18
kostkon!find x86_64-linux-gnu14:18
auchanhongker_: 好吧 - -。一样嘛14:18
ubottuFile x86_64-linux-gnu found in eglibc-source, lib64ffi-dev, libc6-amd64, libc6-x32, libgrok-dev14:18
livthanks14:19
kostkonmaybe try installing  lib64ffi-dev14:19
hongker_auchan: 待会他们叫我们请使用英文。。14:19
livubottu: ok thanks I have a go14:21
ubottuliv: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:21
ignaciooh god, chatty bots. Just what we need.14:25
BluesKajchatty bots are ok , their responses are limited , not like real ppl who can go on and on :)14:28
torremhi all14:29
asan123hi14:29
ReaLhi\14:29
ReaLjust do sudo rm -rf /14:30
PriceyReaL: hah de hah. Please don't :)14:30
asan123i have installed Ubuntu 13.04 on an intel c2d e4500+ jetway IN73M2_PHG mainboard abd afte installation & installing all updates i am having an internal error14:30
asan123can some1 help14:31
asan123i have installed Ubuntu 13.04 on an intel c2d e4500+ jetway IN73M2_PHG mainboard abd afte installation & installing all updates i am having an internal error14:33
BluesKajReaL, do want trouble ..?14:33
asan123this is my 1st install hence want help14:33
OerHeksasan123, so what error do you get? use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines14:33
abdeljalilheello14:33
asan123intel error usr\bin\compiz14:34
asan123and the screen is just blank14:34
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Daekdroom!precise14:35
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120414:35
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Marleneei need torrent client for ssh server that support manageing from Web UI & CLI14:36
SchrodingersScatMarlenee: rtorrent is nice imo, and rutorrent is the webui for that iirc14:37
OerHeksasan123, maybe nomodeset solves your issue14:37
OerHeks!nomodeset | asan12314:37
ubottuasan123: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:37
SchrodingersScatMarlenee: deluge can also run in cli, last I checked.14:38
MarleneeSchrodingersScat : does deluge support Web ui14:40
asan123so whats te next step to take care of teh error14:40
BluesKaj!who | asan12314:41
ubottuasan123: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)14:41
OerHeksasan123, follow the url form ubottu: hold shift @boot, press e to edit, etc14:42
SchrodingersScatMarlenee: deluge says it does. http://deluge-torrent.org/14:42
teachmehey guys anyone around ?14:43
SchrodingersScat!ask | teachme14:43
ubottuteachme: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:43
teachmei have a problem with my fstan file14:43
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teachmefstab that is it says an error occured whil emounting etc/fstab press s to skip mounting or m for recovery14:44
asan123oerheks I am new to this & hence the problem14:45
BluesKajteachme , does this ocurr on every boot ?14:45
teachmeyes14:45
teachmei was trying to manualy mount a windows share14:46
teachmeand i guess i messed it up14:46
teachmei had a working line in 12.04 but it wouldnt mount in 13.0414:46
BluesKajteachme, ok pastebin your fstab file14:46
teachmehttp://pastebin.com/k6Q8i5Ez14:47
teachmethanks so much for looking14:47
teachmehate to reload everything14:47
asan123h14:48
teachmeit is mounting the swap file in the fstab if that matters14:57
BluesKajteachme, i don't see the windows partition , run sudo blkid14:57
teachmepaste bin that also ?14:57
BluesKajyes14:58
netai have a problem with my lubuntu- i just installed a lubuntu 13.04 alongside windows 7- and when i rebooted i got a black screen. now when i reboot it goes straight to the windows. the other option is to boot from the usb-stick and then i can reinstall lubuntu, and then it says that it's allready installed. using nomodeset i'm now "trying without installing". how can i use my freshly installed lubuntu?14:58
teachmehttp://pastebin.com/RtsTTfwL14:58
teachme/dev/sdc2: is ubuntu14:59
teachme/dev/sda214:59
teachmeis windows14:59
netai tried to make nomodeset permanent in the grub file, but when i updated it in the terminal it gave me an error15:05
Douughello all, anyone know of a good guide for ubuntu MS Exchange replacement? I have tried the Samba4 , Sogo and OpenChange solution from Google but Outlook hangs on loading profile and Samba4 crashes15:06
BluesKajteachme, sorry , had a phone call, give me a minute or215:09
teachmeok15:09
teachmethanks again for looking15:10
teachmeso its the windows partition its looking for15:10
teachmei been manualy pointing it to the ubuntu install15:10
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user1337Hello, I would like to know where the non-size difference between the .iso desktop and server comes. servers are not normally lighter?15:14
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BluesKajteacme,  paste this in fstab ,( UUID=08F3B37560BA87E6  /dev/sda2    ntfs  defaults 0   1 ), no gurantee it will work , but it should , drop the brackets of course15:18
BluesKajBRB15:18
teachmeleave the others i had and add this or drop them and have just this15:18
teachme?15:18
BluesKajadd it15:18
teachmeok ill try ti and reboot15:19
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teachmethanks15:19
AvgvaTesthi15:22
afusaho15:23
teachmeBluesKaj> didnt work but thanks for tryin15:24
PatrickDickeyuser1337: Are you asking besides the size of the installation disc, what are the differences between the desktop and server images?15:24
teachmegotta feed the dogs and ill look around more15:24
BluesKajso what error, teachme?15:24
co-XZisthi channel15:25
co-XZistquestion - Is there any driver for ATI x1500 video 32bit for UBuntu 1215:25
co-XZisthaving a real hard time finding it15:26
ibranDoes anyone know anything about setting up multiple video cards with ubuntu? It's black screening if the second card is connected15:26
PatrickDickeyco-XZist: Did you check on AMD's site by chance? And is the card still supported?15:26
user1337PatrickDickey, No, I see not just the difference in size of the installation between desktop and server disk (~ 700MB for both)15:26
PatrickDickeyuser1337: If I had to guess, they include the desktop (Unity) bits on the server disc, but they don't install them by default. It's just a guess though, as I haven't compared the two isos.15:30
ibranuser1337 what was the question?15:30
ibrani am familiar with ubuntu server edition15:30
Greylocksuser1337: usually servers installs have no DE just text interface15:31
user1337Hello, I would like to know where the non-size difference between the .iso desktop and server comes. servers are not normally lighter?15:31
user1337ibran, *15:31
teachmeerror mounting etc/fstab15:31
teachmethats the error think its a permission thing?15:31
teachmewhat should permission on that file be15:31
utusanuser1337: just look at the manifest file on the download page15:31
ibranim not sure why the iso size matters, its the intalled size you want. server edition doesn't install a gui as standard, that the main differece you will first notice15:31
PatrickDickeyibran: I think user1337 is asking why they're the same size, if the server is supposed to be a lighter install.15:32
wilee-nileeteachme, Mounting fstab, its a file.15:32
teachmei get error cannot mount etc/fstab hit s to skip mounting or m for recovery15:32
ibranthe desktop is lighter, yea15:33
teachmeif i skip it ubuntu boots up fine15:33
teachmeany ideas to fix ?15:33
co-XZistyes I checke AMD15:33
wilee-nileeteachme, You sure its not a notation in fstab like a partition or swap?15:33
teachmethe windows install and ubuntu are on diferent disk so i dont care if it mounts it15:33
co-XZisthold on let met tell you what I got from them15:34
teachmelet me remove em all15:34
teachmeclear it and try reboot15:34
netai have a problem with my lubuntu- i just installed a lubuntu 13.04 alongside windows 7- and when i rebooted i got a black screen. now when i reboot it goes straight to the windows. the other option is to boot from the usb-stick and then i can reinstall lubuntu, and then it says that it's allready installed. using nomodeset i'm now "trying without installing". how can i use my freshly installed lubuntu?15:34
wilee-nileeteachme, don't clear fstab15:34
ibranuser1337: there's additional elements in the server install that arent on the desktop one, such as a lot of the enterprise tools15:34
teachmeok15:34
teachmewanna see a pastebin of it ?15:34
wilee-nilee!fstab | teachme15:35
ubottuteachme: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions15:35
wilee-nilee!who | teachme15:35
ubottuteachme: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)15:35
user1337ibran, thank's for your help ;)15:35
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co-XZistPatrickDickey: I downloaded ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run15:36
teachmewilee-nilee wanna see a pastebin?15:36
PatrickDickeyco-XZist: is that the one that they recommend? More to the point, is your card supported under linux?15:36
co-XZistwhen installing I get the message that its not the correct version for my system15:36
wilee-nileeteachme, You want to run sudo blkid this will give you the UUID of the partition on the HD's then open fstab and make sure they are the same.15:36
user1337last question, how many processes running on a newly installed server edition?15:36
teachmeyeah i did that15:36
co-XZistPatrickDickey: yes thats what they recommend15:36
teachmethats why i wondered if it was a file reading problem15:36
teachmelike not reading fstab15:37
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ibranso anyone know anything about multiple video cards? my system goe black screen when booting with the second card connected15:37
teachmethe file itself15:37
ibranuser1337: Not the sort of thing one tends to remember ... i'd recommend installing a virtual machine and exprimenting.15:37
Mondayi tried making a livecd but it won't load, how do i check if the usb drive is bad?15:38
wilee-nileeMonday, A usb laoded with the iso wont boot?15:39
kenshiroHi, is safe to add WineHQ PPA Repository to Ubuntu?15:39
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Mondayit will boot but it won't load, it says something can't mount15:39
wilee-nilee!PPA | kenshiro15:39
ubottukenshiro: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge15:39
PatrickDickeyco-XZist: So, you're trying to install it on Ubuntu 12.04? Or on a later version?15:40
wilee-nileeMonday, How did you put the iso on the usb, and use nicks here.15:40
seetuI am trying to fix a minor bug in ubuntu, I downloaded the source code from launchpad, but now not able to figure out the file in which I should work, Can you please help me?15:40
Mondaywilee-nilee, unebootin15:40
kenshirowilee-nilee ubottu thank you !15:40
wilee-nileeMonday, This a download of the iso with unetbootion as well, or just a load of a iso you have already?15:41
co-XZistPatrickDickey: 12.0415:41
Mondayi have ubuntu and used unebootin to try to make a livecd15:41
Mondayi just want to check if the USB drive is broken or something15:42
wilee-nilee!md5sum | Monday15:42
ubottuMonday: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows15:42
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rafaelsoaresbrafter installing fglrx from repository unity won't load. how to fix it? please,  i've tried many times.15:42
teachmei think i may have fixed my fstab file15:43
seetuPlease help me15:43
teachmesome how a + got in front of a # at the top of the lines15:44
raptor67682hi15:44
wilee-nilee!details | seetu15:44
ubottuseetu: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:44
raptor67682how to increqse the LCD brightness using the console?15:44
PatrickDickeyco-XZist: Have you checked this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI for help, by chance?15:46
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abdeljalil_hello guys15:49
skorasaurus-althi, this is baffling me. I'm trying to give write permissions for a user to a usb drive, while on a livecd.15:49
usr13raptor67682: Is it a laptop or desktop?15:49
seetuI am working on a minor bug in dpkg, there is an option that has become obsolete, but still it comes in bash completion, I downloaded the source code for bash-completion, but I have problem in finding out the file in which I should search for this error, What should I do sir?15:50
skorasaurus-alti've done: sudo chown -R myusername:myusername /media/ubuntu/nitro (where the flash drive is mounted) but I receive operation not permitted.15:50
usr13raptor67682: I'm not sure you can, I've never changed LCD brightness in console mode, but if it is a laptop, you could try the F key combo.15:50
co-XZistPatrickDickey: sorry no I havent15:50
PatrickDickeyThat might be a good start then.15:51
raptor67682usr13: it is a laptop15:51
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raptor67682and in to /sys/class/backlight15:51
raptor67682there is no file15:51
usr13skorasaurus-alt: What filesystem is on the USB drive?15:51
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skorasaurus-altusr13, fat3215:52
ikoniaseetu: how can you possibly expect to work on an bug if you have no idea how to approach it15:52
ikoniaseetu: checking the bug details in the bug report would be a good starting point15:52
co-XZistPatrickDickey: THe exact message was Error:default_policy.sh does not support version15:52
ikoniait can often explain whats broken and how15:53
co-XZistPatrickDickey: THe exact message was Error:default_policy.sh does not support version15:53
usr13raptor67682: That's interesting.15:53
usr13raptor67682: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?15:53
seetuikonia:Thank you15:53
skorasaurus-altit's readable on the default ubuntu use on the livecd , but I'm copying files from an encrypted hard drive to the flash drive, which requires me to be logged in as the specified user.15:53
skorasaurus-althence, i'm trying to give permissions to read/write flash drive for that user.15:53
ibranDoes ubuntu actually support multiple video cards?15:53
raptor67682debian linux 6.... it is a armada compaq very old15:53
co-XZistdefault:v2:i686:lib::none:3.2.0.29-generic-pae; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro15:54
raptor67682I have checked into /proc/ and nothing about backlight15:54
usr13raptor67682: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight15:54
ikoniaraptor67682: you're using debian 6 /15:54
co-XZistsorry if i sent that twice15:54
mwnI removed apache2 from my system a week ago, and installed nginx, now, whenever I boot up, nginx starts automatically and I don't want this to happen. nginx starts whenever I log in and I have to do "killall nginx" to make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?15:55
PatrickDickeyco-XZist: You have to use the open-source version of the ATI Driver. The error means that the kernel is too new for the driver you're trying to install.15:55
usr13skorasaurus-alt: There are no permission limits to the fat32 filesystem, so it must be the mount point has wrong permission or user.  mount |grep /dev/sd??15:55
raptor67682ikonia: well; reviving the machine or looking what is inside15:55
PatrickDickeyco-XZist: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101198/what-is-this-error-when-trying-to-install-ati-video-driver15:55
usr13skorasaurus-alt: In other words where is it mounted.  Issue command  mount15:55
ikoniaraptor67682: ok, so #debian should be the correct channel, and you know this as you're already asking in #debian15:55
co-XZistokies will check it out ..thanks15:55
ikoniaraptor67682: please keep debian questions out of this channel and in #debian, thanks15:56
mwnmake it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?15:56
mwnI removed apache2 from my system a week ago, and installed nginx, now, whenever I boot up, nginx starts automatically and I don't want this to happen. nginx starts whenever I log in and I have to do "killall nginx" to make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?15:56
mwnI removed apache2 from my system a week ago, and installed nginx, now, whenever I boot up, nginx starts automatically and I don't want this to happen. nginx starts whenever I log in and I have to do "killall nginx" to make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?15:56
FloodBot1mwn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:56
ikoniamwn: please stop spamming15:56
usr13skorasaurus-alt: In other words, you probably need to chown the mount point, but let's look and see what it is now.15:57
skorasaurus-altusr13, http://pastebin.ca/244127515:57
raptor67682thanks for hte debugging so my kernel has no driver for backlight15:58
schultzaFor mwm when he comes back. "sudo update-rc.d -f nginx disable".16:00
usr13skorasaurus-alt: Look at: "ls -l /media/ubuntu/nitro"  &  "ls -ld /media/ubuntu/nitro" & "ls -ld /media/ubuntu"16:00
skorasaurus-altaha, i think i got it usr1316:02
skorasaurus-alti tried copying my files from my encrypted drive as root to the flash drive.16:02
usr13skorasaurus-alt: Look at: ls -l /media/ubuntu/nitro >permissions.txt;ls -ld /media/ubuntu/nitro >>permissions.txt;ls -ld /media/ubuntu >>permissions.txt;pastebinit permissions.txt #And send URL if you need us to look too.16:02
skorasaurus-altand wait, not working.16:02
ndyakovgood day :)16:03
usr13skorasaurus-alt: Ok, there you go.  chown -R skorasaurus /media/ubuntu/nitro/16:03
usr13skorasaurus-alt: Oh, wait.  That's not it because it is fat3216:04
skorasaurus-altusr13, right.16:04
usr13skorasaurus-alt: Must be the mount point16:06
usr13skorasaurus-alt:  ls -ld /media/ubuntu/nitro >permissions.txt;ls -ld /media/ubuntu >>permissions.txt;pastebinit permissions.txt #And send URL if you need us to look too.16:06
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skorasaurus-altusr13, updated the pastebin16:06
usr13skorasaurus-alt: Probably need to do chmod 755 /media/ubuntu;chmod 755 /media/ubuntu/nitro16:06
usr13skorasaurus-alt: (Not sure why it wouldn't be correct permissons already but...)16:07
usr13skorasaurus-alt: (We have now way of knowing unless you tell us.)16:07
co-XZistPatrickDickey: So you are saying that that I have to use the built in driver ? Or is there another that I can install ?16:08
PatrickDickeyco-XZist: If the built-in is the open source one, then that's your option. Or you have to use an older version of Ubuntu (which isn't recommended).16:08
usr13skorasaurus-alt: But, why do you need users to access the files from liveCD in the first place?16:08
usr13skorasaurus-alt: http://pastebin.ca/2441275 looks same as before.16:09
syntaci have two monitors, but their physical positions are different than graphical (i have to scroll to the right on my right monitor to get over to my left monitor)16:09
syntacwhere can i change this?16:09
usr13skorasaurus-alt: But if it is one line, you can just send it here, no need for pastebin16:09
usr13skorasaurus-alt: You only need pastebin if it is multiple lines or very long.16:10
PatrickDickeysyntac: in Display options maybe? You should be able to choose which one is the primary monitor.16:10
syntacPatrickDickey, i'm using xmonad. in unity it works fine16:10
ibranIs anyone here using/know how to setup multiple graphics cards?16:11
usr13skorasaurus-alt: If you were to tell us your end goal, we might be albe to help you better.16:11
usr13skorasaurus-alt: If the goal is just to backup the files, just do it, check to make sure they are there and you are good to go, (there are no user or file permission issues on the fat32 filesystem).16:12
syntacPatrickDickey, i got it, used xrandr16:13
PatrickDickeysyntac: Glad to hear that you got it worked out. Honestly, I'd never heard of xmonad until now, so now I'm looking at it.16:13
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usr13skorasaurus-alt: When a vfat device is mounted rw, the mount point is all that might limit access. [/FYI]16:15
zykotick9syntac: personally, i'm a fan of arandr for a fairly light gui front end to xrandr16:15
grakovneMorning!16:17
InterWebWhat is best editor for python ?16:18
sam113101vim16:18
mapi lie nano16:18
teliov19komodo is good16:19
ibranInterWeb: define best16:19
mapalthough noone else seems to16:19
grakovneGeany anyway!16:19
ibranInterWeb: do you need things like autocompletion ?16:19
mapah16:19
mapbasic editor wont do that16:19
InterWebirban , yes16:20
mapWhat about kate - i used to like that16:20
mapdunno if it's still included in KDE? although this is gnome version16:20
PatrickDickeyI'd say it depends on what you're doing. Komodo is good, but if I remember right, it's not free. Otherwise any text editor will do the job.16:20
mapused to use Kate for writing code at uni16:20
ibranInterWeb: pycharm seems popular. it has autocomplete, integrated debugger and it can also read and autocomplete your database schema. Are you after a full IDE or just an editor?16:21
* PatrickDickey uses nano with code highlighting, gedit, or notepad++ in wine.16:21
mapya i like notepad++16:21
mapi like nano whys everyone love vim so much?16:21
jaropehi all wonder if I could get some help16:21
jaropeI am running saucy and seem to have a xorg/nvidia issue16:21
grakovnenotepad++ is not GNU way. Why not vim or geany?16:22
teliov19there is  a free version of komodo (komodo edit),16:22
teliov19vim is cool tho16:22
ibrannotepad++ is open source16:22
InterWebIs there anything to add auto-completion to vim ?16:22
teliov19that would be nice, auto complete to vim'16:22
ibranin fact i think npp is gnu licenced? not sure on that though. i think it uses the same editor lib that sublime is based on16:22
jaropeI think the problem is I ran nvidia-settings and after reboot just get either the low graphics mode box OR can login but get just a black screen.  this is what I have at the moment using ctl+alt+_t still boots the terminal16:22
jaropeand from there I was able to run xchat16:23
mapso why no nano again why just vim16:23
grakovneNowhy. If you like it - use it16:23
InterWebmap , Does it have auto-complection?16:24
ibranmap: Nano's OK but lacks some of the advanced features of vim. also vim is part of all *nix distros so you wont ever not have it. Of course, use wahtever editor you prefer16:24
jaropeI am guessing I need to remove xorg.conf or similar? but not sure as in X11 there are only the .backup and .failsafe files16:24
POVaddctInterWeb: try ctrl-p and ctrl-n in vim while typing a word16:24
ibrannano doesnt have a repl though, that's a problem for me. i need a repl.16:25
PatrickDickeyInterWeb: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=850 pydiction maybe? (Autocompletion for python in vim)16:25
InterWebPatrickDickey, Thank you16:25
InterWebPOVaddct, Thank you16:25
PatrickDickeyInterWeb: No problem.16:25
ibranwell i dont "need" a repl but it slows me up a lot, missing it16:25
PatrickDickeyvim is old-school (because it's basically always been around).16:26
jhutchinsWTF is a "repl"?16:27
jarope_so any saucy graphics ppl able to help?16:28
ibranjhutchins: read eval print loop i.e. interpreter. e.g. C++ repl makes wriign c++ easier for me, etc16:28
usr13map: notepad?  I don't know about that, (most of us here are Ubuntu users).  As to the nano vs vim, well, it's a matter of opinion, some think nano is more user friendly, others think vi is more feature rich and so it's just a matter of opinion.16:28
PatrickDickeyjarope_: You probably want the #ubuntu+1 channel for saucy questions.16:28
jarope_PatrickDickey, thanks16:28
mapyea someone else said notepad++ using wine16:29
jhutchinsibran: 'splains why I don't recognize it.  I did a lot of my programming on punch cards.16:29
InterWebHow do I can add interpreter to vim ?16:29
map;]16:29
jhutchinsInterWeb: You may be interested in emacs.  I believe it has those options.16:29
bl4ckdu5twhen I do pm-hibernate most times and I turn my PC back on, it takes time for it to be accessible16:29
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dr_willisemacs has everything.16:30
usr13map: I use vi / vim  and am quite happy with it, don't need notepad but am not opposed to nano either.16:30
zykotick9PatrickDickey: re:vim, actually vi is part of POSIX so it's on every "unix-like" system, emacs is not.  but yes, it's been around forever too ;)16:30
jhutchinsbl4ckdu5t: Are you suspending to disk?16:30
InterWebjhutchins, I read somewhere that It is hard to learn :/16:30
mapah16:30
mapi always preferred nano16:30
mapguess its just preference16:30
usr13map: vimtutor may change your mind.16:31
AvgvaTesthi16:31
* zykotick9 +1 on "vimtutuor" tutorial.16:31
dr_willisnano is a pen-knife     vi is a big  swiss army knife16:31
gordonjcped is the standard editor!16:31
mapzzz almost work time sheesh16:31
dr_willisemacs is the kitchen silverware and junk drawer16:31
PatrickDickeyI agree map. I like the simplicity of moving the cursor and then editing the line that nano has. I'm sure there are ways to make vim work like that, but it's standard in nano.16:31
gordonjcpjhutchins: punch cards, y'say16:32
gordonjcpjhutchins: which machine?16:32
usr13good analogy dr_willis16:32
mapya the simplicity is for me :)16:32
InterWebanother thing , I wanted to install pydictaion for vim but I can't find vimrc file , Where is that on ubuntu?16:32
dr_willis!info fte16:32
ubottufte (source: fte): Text editor for programmers - base package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.50.2b6-1 (raring), package size 87 kB, installed size 323 kB16:32
gordonjcpI use gedit for pretty much everything these days16:32
Obi1hello16:33
dr_willisInterWeb:   use      locate vimrc16:33
PatrickDickeyInterWeb: It's in your home directory. the filename is .vimrc (if you've created one).16:33
zykotick9InterWeb: try ~/.vimrc it might not be there by default?16:33
dr_willissystem wide  in /etc/  id say16:33
InterWebthat is not in my home folder ,16:34
* PatrickDickey thankfully I never had to deal with punch cards. But I've heard enough horror stories about them from COBOL instructors...16:34
InterWebI have just .vim in my home16:34
Obi1how can I install Gnome 2.0  desktop on 12.04 ubuntu16:34
dr_williseach user can have a.   .vimrc16:34
PatrickDickeyInterWeb: You can create one then.16:34
ibranwell assembler is mostly similiar to punch cards, not sure why there are so many horror stories.16:35
dr_willisObi1:  use the classic mode stuff16:35
dr_willis!nounity16:35
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic16:35
InterWebPatrickDickey, I have a .vimrc in my etc/vim , Do I need to creat another one in home ?16:35
PatrickDickeyInterWeb: nope. copy that one to your home, and edit it to whatever you need.16:35
PatrickDickeyibran: The horror stories were things like having 50 punch cards, and dropping them while you're walking down the hall.16:36
Obi1hi willis16:36
usr13Obi1: Ever tried xfce?16:36
zykotick9InterWeb: i hope your /etc/vim/vimrc is better then mine... (it might be! different systems)16:36
usr13Obi1: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   #Try it, you'll like it.16:37
PatrickDickeyObi1:  Or LXDE (lubuntu-desktop)?16:37
ibranPatrickDickey: They get mixed up? Wsa it possible to label them with a pen?16:37
Obi1i did try  all i love gnome 2.016:37
dr_willisgnome 2 is dead.16:37
PatrickDickeyibran: That's the suggestion the instructor made. Draw a diagonal line across the top of the cards. That way if you drop them, you can put them back in order.16:37
dr_willistheres fallback/vlassic modes or other desktops to try16:38
jhutchinsgordonjcp: Y'know, I'm not entirely sure.  Pretty sure we fed some to a 370, but the one that did Fortran I don't even remember if I knew.16:38
ibranso these were horror stories about human laziness or incompetence, rather than actul punchcard tech?16:38
usr13Obi1: gnome 2 is no more.  Try xfce16:38
usr13Obi1: What do you mean, you did try all?16:39
zykotick9Obi1: gnome2 is "dead", move on...16:39
PatrickDickeyibran: If I remember right, sometimes it was hit and miss whether they worked. If the card punching machine didn't punch the holes completely, you could have issues. Or just the fact that if you had an error in your program, you had to repunch every card.16:39
Obi1i don't like xfce , KDE, Cinamon is ok16:39
ibranpucgcards before my time. i started with 28 inch disks and tape drives16:40
PatrickDickeyObi1: You could always use something like Unity with Docky.16:40
zykotick9Obi1: <ot> i "feel" ya!  gnome2 was my fav DE of all times.  i'm sad about it too, but i've moved on.  you should as well ;)16:40
ibranhowever i do build mechanical memory circuits in minecraft, which are basically gigantic jacard looms ;-)16:40
Obi1UNITY is the worst desktop evoroment to tell some1 to switch from Windows is hard for windows user to work on it16:41
PatrickDickeyibran: Everything I had to do was all on a mainframe. So, I just started with a dumb terminal. Well except for the AppleSoft BASIC stuff. That was done with 3.5" floppies and 5 1/4" floppies.16:41
Obi1i help people to switch to Linux16:41
dr_willisso do i. most have no issues with unity here.16:41
dr_willisor i set them up with lubuntu16:41
skorasaurus-althi usr13, back, I had to help out my dad for a few minutes. my current hard drive, encrypted with ecryptfs , is beginning to fail, it has a couple hundred bad sectors.16:42
ibranI know i asked before but that was 1/2 hour ago: does anyone know how to get multiple graphics cards working with ubuntu?16:42
PatrickDickeyObi1:  Then have them try LXDE. It's almost the exact same look as XP's Classic (or Vista and 7's Classic).16:42
skorasaurus-altunfortunately, my backup drive was last backed up about a couple weeks ago.16:42
skorasaurus-altand there are a few files on my hard drive that I'd like to rescue which were recently modified.16:42
jhutchins"Smart" guys didn't number their card because that gave them extra space for code.  Eventually they got dropped, and they discovered that numbering was worth the loss of space.  I did Fortran, Cobol, and RPG II/III on them.16:42
skorasaurus-alt(firefox profile, etc).16:42
ikoniaibran: in what way "get working"16:42
dr_willisibran:  optimus stuff? or 2 seperate cards in a desktop?16:42
Obi1brb16:42
jhutchinsActually, COBOL had just moved off of them but it's still a positional language.16:42
ibranikonia: black screen if the second card is inserted. it starts up fine but when gdm? lightdm? (dont remember which one ubuntu uses) screen goes back16:43
jhutchinsibran: You mean multi-monitor, or laptop multi-drive intel/radeon?16:44
skorasaurus-altso, unfortunately, with ecryptfs, I have to use the same user name to access the files which created under that user.16:44
ikoniaibran: how are you trying to use them, seperate cards, sli/x-fire, etc etc16:44
nabblethi, how can i change that grey loging background in ubuntu 12.10?16:44
ibranjhutchins: I mean the machine has two identical nvidia graphics cards16:44
ibranikonia: it's an SLI configuration16:44
skorasaurus-altso, under livecd, I created the same user name, I have access to the files.16:44
ikoniaibran: that's not going to work16:44
nabbleti tried different solutions, but they didn't get me any further16:45
skorasaurus-altbut I need to copy them to another drive but that is where i'm stuck.16:45
ibranikonia: Ubuntu doesn't support SLI?16:45
ikoniaibran: linux doesn't really - nvidia keep trying to add/update it in the propritary drivers, but it really causes too many problems16:45
PatrickDickeyskorasaurus-alt: Have you tried chrooting into the installation on the hard drive?16:46
PatrickDickeyskorasaurus-alt: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/ (not exactly your situation, but it could work)16:46
ibranikonia: Do you know of any good resources used by tinkerers who are prepared to invest some time into fiddlign with their systems to get that working?16:47
jhutchinsibran: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5396616:47
jhutchinsibran: Incompatible with unity and some other DEs.16:47
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skorasaurus-altPatrickDickey, intersting, i have not.16:47
skorasaurus-alti'll look into it.16:47
PatrickDickeyskorasaurus-alt: It's worth a read, if nothing else. I've had to do it to update different operating systems on my computer before (Fedora from Ubuntu, etc).16:48
ibranjhutchins: this link says it is dual screen (dual head), i am wanting single screen with 2 cards (for 3d grpahics  performance) - would this link be relevant?16:48
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dr_willisarch linux wiki may have some sli information16:51
ibrandr_willis: thanks will look16:51
dr_willisi dont find sli worth the effort. ;-)16:52
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jhutchinsibran: I know of no condition where that works.16:53
jhutchinsibran: ... except of course SLI.16:54
ibranjhutchins: Yes it is SLI. works fine on windows . however  i guess linux driver support isn't quite as good. I'll ask around on the nvidia forums.16:55
mydog2hi.. trying to connect to an ubuntu server to do a scp copying from a fedora to the ubuntu..16:59
mydog2is this the "right" irc for questions..16:59
mydog2i can ssh into the box..16:59
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mydog2when i scp, i get a lost connection16:59
mydog2the ubuntu is running on a vm17:00
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netahow can i install steam in lubuntu? i don't find it in the softwer center17:02
martinfletcherHey all17:03
martinfletcherI am currently having trouble installing Ubuntu 13 .04 on my desktop17:04
ARW0what the prob ?17:04
sethjgrahamsavage, did you ever get your problem resolved?17:04
martinfletcherI am in live cd modem to eval 13.04 but only a black screen and mouse pointer is displayed17:05
ARW0martinfletcher: what graphic card you have ?17:05
kostkonneta, it should be there. if not, in software centre, select Edit -> Software Sources, then in the 3rd party software tab enable the Partner repository and try again.17:05
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | martinfletcher17:06
ubottumartinfletcher: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:06
martinfletcherI have googled the hell out of it and it appears to be a compiz error, although I have never heard of this so not quite sure17:06
linuxuz3rhow do i update gnome 3 installation17:07
jhutchinsibran: I know there's a lot of work done using ganged GPUs in Linux, but it's mostly specialty stuff where a team is writing their own code for a specific project.17:08
wilee-nileelinuxguy101, to what?17:08
martinfletcherARW0: nvidia GeForce fx 520017:08
linuxuz3rwilee-nilee, i have gnome 3 install i dont know the exact version but it gives me minor problems17:08
wilee-nileemartinfletcher, check the nomodeset link.17:09
linuxuz3rim just wondering how to update my gnome 3 installation17:09
ibranmartinfletcher: that card will need nomodeset, see the link from wilee-nilee17:09
AvgvaTesthi17:09
ibranmartinfletcher: BTW it's a dark purple screen not a black one ;-)17:09
martinfletcherLooking now17:09
martinfletcherMine is black17:09
wilee-nileelinuxguy101, Did you install the gnome-shell, this is ubuntu right?17:10
AvgvaTesthi17:10
kostkon!hi | AvgvaTest17:10
kostkondamn17:10
jhutchinsibran: DreamWorks and Pixar both render on Linux.17:10
kostkon:/17:10
kostkonjhutchins, and weta17:11
ibranjhutchins: thanks for trying to help, much appreciated. however probaby want to be looking at SLI not Gpu Computing17:12
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AvgvaTesthi17:12
linuxuz3rwilee-nilee, yes i installed gnome-shell17:13
linuxuz3ri think its more then gnomeshell thats the problem17:13
wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, Ubuntu? What release, and did you add a PPA, three questions here.17:13
linuxuz3rits not a ppa17:14
linuxuz3r12.0417:14
linuxuz3rim still supported right17:14
wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, I can't help you, your not reading these questions.17:14
kostkonlinuxuz3r, yes. even if you have added a ppa17:14
wilee-nileekostkon, PPA's are not supported here.17:15
kostkonwilee-nilee, said who?17:15
wilee-nilee!ppa17:15
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge17:15
kostkonwilee-nilee, probably you are misreading the "unsupported third-party packages"17:15
linuxuz3rwhats the name of the command that upgrades a certain package17:15
wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, There ia not one per-say, you just run regular updates17:16
wilee-nileeis*17:16
linuxuz3roh17:16
linuxuz3rso apt-get update; apt-get upgrade17:16
wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, yes17:17
linuxuz3rok booting to ubuntu now17:18
Dakotai am at the end of my rope with libvirt-dnsmasq. how do i get it the heck off of port 53 so i can run nsd?17:22
mkanyicyq17:22
Dakotano matter what i change its either binding to port 53 or port 22... both of which are not negotiable17:23
linuxuz3rwilee-nilee, im dist upgrading17:25
wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, Meaning using dist-upgrade?17:26
dennisHello everybody, how can I make script that presses return and nothing else?17:28
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PatrickDickeydennis, why do you want a script that presses return?17:33
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dennisPatrickDickey: I have a button here that works as a tiny keyboard: it presses the superkey+R and then ecobutton17:34
dennisIt's a Windows thingey that let your PC go in a deep standby with a press on the button17:35
dennisI want to trigger the 'Run program' utility in xfce to trigger a script called Ecobutton to let that script press return17:36
dennisBecause I find the return key an 'activation' key and I would like to trigger it from a big button17:37
PatrickDickeyInteresting. So, basically your button would call the script, and it would put your computer into standby mode?17:37
dennisPatrickDickey: Yes17:38
dennisBut I want it for other purposes17:38
GorrtackHi all17:38
dennisBut I guess you don know how to write the script... :D17:38
Gorrtackare there any alternatives for sam broadcaster in Ubuntu?17:38
PatrickDickeyNope. Sorry. I thought maybe I'd be able to give you an alternative to that though. You might want to check in the #bash channel if you're looking for a bash script to do it, or #python if you want it in python.17:39
dennisGorrtack: http://alternativeto.net/software/sam-broadcaster/17:40
nzdreamerHello everyone.  I'm looking for support after trying a live usb ubuntu Linux distro and now am having trouble booting back into windows 8.17:40
wilee-nileenzdreamer, Did you change anything in the bios?17:41
denniswilee-nilee: I don't want to be over-preceise, but Win8 pc's run on EFI17:42
Gorrtackdennis: thank u. I tried to configure IDJC, but can't link pulseaudio with jackd =(17:42
nzdreamerThanks for the reply.  I have a machine with a UEFI bios.  I used the boot manager at start up to select the usb drive and selected the UEFI portion to start ubuntu17:42
dennisGorrtack: Ask in ubuntu_studio17:43
kostkonGorrtack, check out AirTime17:43
wilee-nileenzdreamer, W8 has a hybrid hibernate, did you shutdown completely to get to this boot manager?17:43
Gorrtackkostkon: AirTime? What is this?17:43
dennisGorrtack: I had a problem with recording sound and they gave me a lot of hints17:43
kostkonGorrtack, radio management and broadcasting app.17:44
linuxuz3rgnome becomes unresponsive if i click on an icon it takes a while to get highlighted. and when i switch to a different window it takes a while to get focus. how do i fix this?17:44
wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, Is the hardware up to the task of running ubuntu?17:45
kostkonGorrtack, another easy option is mixxx. it supports broadcasting over the net17:45
linuxuz3rwilee-nilee, yes17:45
nzdreamerYes I have tried to start using several different ways (restart, turn off computer completely, turn of completely and pull the plug) but none of them seem to launch windows correctly.  I will get the Auto repair and have tried all the options including advanced options.  I have even rebuilt the MBR and run chech disk.17:46
wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, You have the correct graphic drivers?17:46
Gorrtackkostkon: that's what I need! broatcast my skype, player and microphone to the remote Icecast2 server17:46
PatrickDickeynzdreamer: So you installed ubuntu then?17:47
neopsychehi. can anyone help me rsync server?17:48
wilee-nileenzdreamer, What I wonder is if you shutdown completelt to run the ubuntu if you had it in this hibernate that would be a problem, and actually since you have not installed ubuntu just booted it this is a windows problem, so you might ask on ##windows as well.17:48
linuxuz3rwilee-nilee, yes do i need to upgrade the graphics drivers17:48
neopsychenot sure on some commands.. im a windoze refugee17:48
neopsychefound tutorial http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-use-rsync-transfer-mirror-files-directories.html17:49
neopsychealso.. how to remote ssh from linux? in windows I use putty17:49
dennisI just made a script in the path /bin/ecobutton, but when I enter the command ecobutton, the terminal says '-bash: /bin/ecobutton: Access denied'17:49
sam113101neopsyche: using ssh17:49
dennisneopsyche: type ssh in terminal17:49
neopsycheok..17:49
neopsychecan I rsync?17:49
ocooelLooking for help regarding upgrade to 12.04.3 + 13.04 HWE.17:50
suhas_hiii guys17:50
wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, upgrade meaning, what you have is maybe the problem and your sure, or a guess, it helps if we know your reasoning.17:50
suhas_hii17:50
neopsychessh says no route to host17:51
linuxuz3rwilee-nilee, a guess17:51
wilee-nileeocooel, you have to go through 12.10 basically, the nupgrade manager will do it if you go to the software sources and set it to all upgrades17:51
wilee-nileeocooel, 12.04 is supported till 2017 though are you sure this is the best plan?17:52
ocooelwilee-nilee: Doesn't it just upgrade the kernel from 3.5 to 3.8..?17:53
wilee-nileeocooel, No, apps will be upgraded and the system in places, and the support time changes17:53
wilee-nileeocooel, the kernel will go to 3.8 yes.17:54
nzdreamerOh interesting though about booting from a hyb state to run ubuntu from a live USB...17:55
nzdreamerWhat can I check to see if this was the case?17:55
wilee-nileenzdreamer, I would ask in ##windows this is a windows issue really, you have to be registered with freenode though I believe.17:56
kostkonocooel, instructions are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack17:57
neopsychedennis: no route to host17:57
ocooelwilee-nilee: that sux.17:57
wilee-nileenzdreamer, If someone knows here they will probably answer, I would just like to see you get the best help is all.17:57
kostkonocooel, you don't need to dist upgrade. just check the wiki page17:57
dennisneopsyche: I only have little knowledge about ssh. Try the channel #ssh17:57
wilee-nileeocooel, This is nothing new, has been this way since the first release.17:57
nzdreamerThank you for the help.  I will try to find my answers at ##windows.  Good bye17:59
nzdreamerexit17:59
Willdude123How could I set up something to stream torrents downloaded via transmission web interface to VLC medía player on my PC (using my ubuntu server)18:00
ocooelkostkon: I've read this. It's where I got the info from. There are no instructions on how to install manually. It says it's not available just through upgrades. This is what I need instruction on18:00
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Willdude123Doesn't have to be automatic18:00
ocooelkostkon: It's not as simple as running linux-headers-generic-lts-raring etc, is it..?18:00
kostkonocooel, it says "For example to install the Quantal hardware enablement packages in Precise, please run the following command:" etc, replace quantal with raring18:01
kostkonocooel, it is. what else would you need?18:02
wilee-nileeocooel, You want to notice the warnings on the ennoblement stack, read very carefully.18:02
anonymousX7Xquit18:02
sereis it possible to a playlist sync rhythmbox or banshee with a andriod phonein ubuntu 12.4.3? i can mount it it and get rhythmbox to see it but it wont sync for some reason18:03
ocooelkostkon: That is all. Will raring supersede precise..?18:03
kostkonocooel, it will update your grub automatically18:03
kostkonocooel, yes18:03
Willdude123So I want to stream downloaded torrents to VLC18:03
ocooelkostkon: Meaning I lose the point of having precise..?18:04
PatrickDickeyWilldude123: have you looked into something like mdlna? (might be spelled a bit differently)18:04
Willdude123Might do. VLC might be able to run headlessly.18:04
kostkonocooel, you still have precise, but with the updated kernel and X. that is all18:04
linuxuz3rfor future reference does official upgrade breaks your ubuntu installation?18:04
wilee-nileeocooel, So what is your reasoning on the raring kernel needs?18:05
PatrickDickeylinuxuz3r: It shouldn't. But if you're upgrading a system that doesn't meet the hardware requirements, it might.18:05
ocooelwilee-nilee: Odd number kernel versions are experimental and even one are stable.18:06
Ampelbeinlinuxuz3r: In very rare cases, updates have been breaking existing installations. But the issue were always detected very fast and either the upgrades pulled or a fix issued.18:06
wilee-nileeocooel, Really I have been using ubuntu for 8 years and never heard that, source please.18:06
PatrickDickeywilee-nilee: I've seen that on some kernel forums. But, I think it's more the minor build number than anything else.18:08
xyz123is there such an online tool which will calculate and tell you what partition is going to be what size based on your hd size?18:08
xyz123:)18:08
seventhsamuariHi I'm looking for a good youtube tutorial on the terminal for beginners18:08
dman777_alterdoes the Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) support ecc ssh keys by default installation?18:08
seventhsamuarii need to modify my gurb18:08
seventhsamuari*grub18:08
BluesKajocooel, , that's a new one on me too , never heard that ever mentioned about stable/unstable kernel numbers before , can you give us the source of your info ?18:09
Ampelbeinwilee-nilee: It's been changed in 2004, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning#Odd-numbered_versions_for_development_releases18:09
wilee-nileePatrickDickey, Sounds like opinions, and not hardly factual18:10
wilee-nileeAmpelbein, Between the 1.0 and the 2.6.x series,18:10
Ampelbeinwilee-nilee: Yes.18:10
wilee-nileeAmpelbein, hardly relevant18:10
silviaAlguien habla español ?18:10
IdleOne!es18:10
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:10
Ampelbeinwilee-nilee: Well, the kernel *USED* that versioning scheme, sorry for trying to give you information.18:11
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silviaOk thanks18:11
wilee-nileeAmpelbein, Did this help the user of just confuse issues.18:11
wilee-nileeor*18:11
wilee-nileethe kernels in ubuntu are modified anyway18:12
pfifohinguys18:12
Ampelbeinwilee-nilee: You said you never heard the odd-even versioning scheme, I just wanted to show you that the kernel used to use it. Forgive me.18:12
PatrickDickeyhttp://www.linfo.org/kernel_version_numbering.html It used to be this way (odd numbers are development) but not anymore.18:12
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seventhsamuariis there a ubuntu channel specifically for beginners?18:13
linuxuz3rwilee-nilee, thanks its working now18:13
wilee-nileeseventhsamuari, used to be it is here now.18:13
linuxuz3ri fixed the problem18:14
seventhsamuariwilee-nilee, thanks i am looking for a good video tutorial on the terminal for beginners18:14
linuxuz3rwilee-nilee, thanks18:14
linuxuz3rwilee-nilee, thanks18:14
linuxuz3ryou should say np18:14
wilee-nileeocooel, This reasong is not correct and leaves you vulnerable to breaking the setup and not getting support, just a heads up is all.18:15
sereis it possible to a playlist sync rhythmbox or banshee with a andriod phonein ubuntu 12.4.3? i can mount it it and get rhythmbox to see it but it wont sync for some reason18:15
wilee-nileesere, Works in 13.04 with rhythmbox just setting the edit-preferences-music-music files are located in.18:16
dman777_alteri gues that is a no18:19
pfifoDNS setup is such bullcrap lately18:19
serewilee-nilee: i tried it on my 13.04 box but getting the same errors.. did you have to set up any udev rules?18:20
ocooelkostkon, wilee-nilee, even when checking kernel.org the stable versions are all even and EOL or rc are odd18:20
wilee-nileeseventhsamuari, Not sure on videos, there are beginners books, I forget the exact names though.18:20
PatrickDickeyseventhsamuari: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Using+the+terminal+in+linux18:21
Ampelbeinocooel: The next stable kernel will be 3.1118:21
PatrickDickeyThe first one says it's a beginners video.18:21
wilee-nileesere, Nope but it may depend on the android version, I suspect, not sure of the problem.18:21
seventhsamuariPatrickDickey, thanks!18:21
PatrickDickeyseventhsamuari: no problem.18:21
dman777_alterhey, how come the open ssh that comes with ubuntu does not have ecc but there is a utility called seccure that does?18:21
ikoniadman777_alter: ecc as in error correction ?18:22
dman777_alterikonia: no, elliptic curve crypto18:22
ocooelAmpelbein: Can't see 3.8 there anyway. Maybe it's not worth updating HWE and just upgrade 14.0418:22
serewilee-nilee: i can mount it if i choose to open folder so i was thinking it wasnt a udev issue.. here are the error i have been getting.. if you dont mind checking it out http://paste.ubuntu.com/6048617/18:23
ikoniadman777_alter: is there a reason it should be inluded ? is it a build time option or a module you can bolt on (I'm not aware of it)18:23
ikoniaocooel: why are you trying to change your kernel version ?18:24
kostkonocooel, the raring hwe will install 3.8 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-generic-lts-raring18:24
wilee-nileesere, Hw are you getting the phone to show on 12.04 I had to add a ppa to see a mtp device?18:25
kostkonocooel, if you download 12.04.3 and do a fresh install you'll get 3.8 anyway.18:26
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ocooelkostkon: That's what I'm trying to do without the fresh install part.18:27
kostkonocooel, then.... just.... do it.....18:27
Ampelbeindman777_alter: "ssh-keygen -t ecdsa -b 521" works here on Ubuntu, what ECC support are you missing?18:27
kostkonocooel, instructions are there. just replace "quantal" with "raring"18:27
wilee-nileesere, gMTP did see it but not very useful18:27
ikoniaAmpelbein: ah, so it's just one of the cyphers18:28
ocooelThanks.18:29
Ampelbeinikonia: Yes, it's ECDSA is one of the possible cyphers to use with ECC.18:29
ikoniaAmpelbein: so a simple build time option, that from your test, is enabled18:30
balrog000hello guys i'm just new on ubuntu and i search a very easy tutorial to make a vpn connection please (sorry for my english)18:31
ikonia!vpn | balrog00018:32
ubottubalrog000: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN18:32
serewilee-nilee: it just worked out of the box.. but i would get some of those mounting errors when i loaded rhythmbox or banshee... i installed mtp-tools to try mtp-detect to trouble shoot and it will see it but i get PTP_ERROR_IO: failed to open session, trying again after resetting USB interface18:32
aggroWhen I gave command 'dhclient eth2', my screen went black and two lights on keyboard started blinking and I had to give hardware reset...  Any suggestions how to fix the network connection?18:32
Ampelbeinikonia: Yes, for ecdsa, but I don't know what dman777_alter is looking for exactl.y18:33
ikoniaI thought all cyphers where enabled by default upstream from debian....18:33
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aggroPerhaps I should ask something more simple... in which files does Ubuntu store network configuration?18:38
Ampelbeinaggro: If you are using NetworkManager: In /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections18:40
hdonaggro, check man 5 network18:40
SirCmpwnwhat is the default system font18:40
hdonaggro, sorry man 5 interfaces18:40
hdonSirCmpwn, define "system font"18:41
hdonSirCmpwn, you mean in the VT?18:41
SirCmpwnVT?18:41
SirCmpwnI mean the font used on window decorations and menus and such18:41
Ampelbeinhdon: interfaces doesn't apply when NM is being used.18:41
john-locke__installed ubuntu on win8 machine, loaded from cd drv etc & install went ok. on bootup no choice for ubuntu seen, goes str8 to win8. Any ideas??18:42
wilee-nileeSirCmpwn, There not all the same. Is it where do I go to change them?18:42
SirCmpwnno18:42
SirCmpwnI use arch and I'm looking for a font with good unicode support. I figured whatever ubuntu used was probably fine18:42
co-XZistAmpelbein: There's nothing in that folder18:42
aggroAmpelbein: I have eth1 there, but ifconfig shows only eth2... and I don't even know where eth0 is18:43
MooreJohn90Hi Everybody. I have EVDO usb modem. I want to make a phone call via usb modem. Is it possible? The simcard that I am going to use is the mobile phone sim card.18:43
dman777_alterAmpelbein: oh, i seee. i was trying ecc instead of ecdsa18:44
dman777_alterAmpelbein: thanks18:44
wilee-nilee!font18:44
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/18:44
gordonjcpjhutchins: my MicroVAX II and PDP11 are probably too modern for you ;-)18:45
aggrohdon: /etc/network/interfaces contains only "lo"18:45
MooreJohn90Hi Everybody. I have EVDO usb modem. I want to make a phone call via usb modem. Is it possible? The simcard that I am going to use is the mobile phone sim card.18:45
nooboontoo hi, is this the right channel for troubleshooting questions?18:45
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co-XZistMooreJohn90:  not sure about the EVDO modem but I used minicom to make calls from my built in modem18:46
co-XZistyour usb device should show up in /dev18:46
terahertWhat is the prefered way of setting up as new user and changing it's shell in ubuntu?  Normally I just adduser, then useruser to the sudo group. then do chsh as that user to change. Is this the correct way? Because we all know Ubuntu for whatever reason uses dash instead of bash by default (although bash is included in the default install), and I w18:47
terahertant to setup a new user to experiment with zsh. Would thos be the correct method for ubuntu?18:47
teraherts/thos/this18:47
MooreJohn90<co-XZist> What kind of AT command should i use?18:47
PatrickDickeynooboontoo: yes this is the right channel for troubleshooting.18:48
co-XZistMooreJohn90: well once you configure minicom to use your USB device (ttyUSB somenumber)... if u wish to use AT then it's ATD(phonenumber) T18:48
Ampelbeinterahert: Eh, dash is only used for non-interactive shells by default. Bash should still be the login shell for new users.18:48
co-XZistMooreJohn90: example ATD1234567 T18:49
nooboontooPatrickDickey: cool, i'm basically having this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/160048/how-to-force-ubuntu-to-access-the-internet-only-through-a-vpn-and-disable-it-whe18:49
MooreJohn90Hi, Is AT command for GSM the same as CDMA?18:49
nooboontootried the answer but can't get it to work18:50
terahertAmpelbein:regardless, that doesn't answer me question18:50
terahertIs that the proper way to go about creating a new user and making it's default shell zsh in ubuntu?18:51
Ampelbeinterahert: You can simply pass --shell to adduser18:51
MooreJohn90Because, I got error when I tried with this command to send message "AT+CMGW="+85291234567"18:51
terahertthats fine, but the user was already made, if you just read my question...18:52
terahertforget it.... I'll just use my tried and true method.18:52
Ampelbeinterahert: You said " to setup a new user to experiment with zsh" . That implied to me you were creating, well, a new user.18:53
co-XZistMooreJohn90: I know there is the extended AT for GSM not sure if the same for CDMA18:53
co-XZistdidu just try the one i stated18:53
MooreJohn90Thank you18:53
mojtabaHi, Does anybody know how can I encrypt my email account, specially my gmail account?18:53
mojtabaI am using thunderbird in ubuntu18:54
Guest25054use encrypted mesages in thunderbird18:55
Ampelbeinterahert: But if you want to change an existing user: "sudo chsh -s /bin/zsh $USER"18:55
mojtabaGuest25054: Could you please give me a tutorial link?18:55
terahertotr just su to the user18:55
terahertand use chsh18:55
OerHeksmojtaba, easy http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Email-Encryption-in-Ubuntu with thunderbird as example18:55
serewilee-nilee: i think it might be a mounting issue.. gvfs-mount -l shows   Mount(0): SAMSUNG_Android -> gphoto2://[usb:001,040]/.. not sure why its being mounted as gphoto2..what program did you use to mount youys18:55
mojtabaOerHeks: Thanks18:56
terahertAnyways, all is good now. Thanks for verifying my thoughts18:56
co-XZistYOu want to encrypt ur inbox or messages going in and out :S18:56
OerHeksmojtaba, might want to read this too > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto18:56
mojtabathe other question is that, how can I change my name in this chat room? currently it shows to me my name is adam; but it is shown to you it is mojtaba18:56
terahertusername and realname are not the same as nickname18:57
serewilee-nilee: its also mounting it twice..hmm18:57
schultzamojtaba... use "/nick <inputyournamehere>"18:57
terahertif you want to change the nickname, the name that shows in the chatroom, use /nick newnamehere18:57
mojtabaschultza: thank you18:57
bazzeron precise i just booted with a max_loop=64 to give me more loop devices and loopback mounted 16 iso images, now a pid belonging to gvfs-gdu-volume is taxing the spu at 100%....any ideas?18:57
schultzaand.. adam might be the server you are on18:57
bazzercpu rather18:58
mojtabaschultza: it is the same18:58
schultzanope.. your on another one...18:58
mojtabait shows to me adam18:58
co-XZistare you logged on to ur pc as adam ?18:58
aggroHow can I stop eth2 from appearing in boot to ifconfig list?18:58
wilee-nileesere, I have not used 12.04 for awhile so I'm not really the best source probably, but I use this with my nexus 7, I got the smart phone long after using 12.04. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html18:59
mojtabaco-XZist: no it is mojtaba too18:59
wilee-nileeused*18:59
terahertAnyone using chrome, with the new hangout extension (like a replacement for gtalk so you dont have to use a real xmpp client, and it is available from taskbar)18:59
schultzayes.. if it is in the upper right... thats your user's name18:59
schultzafor the operating system18:59
terahertThe reason I ask is, with dual monitors, it shows on the wrong monitor, not the primary18:59
terahertBut the left screen, the laptop screen18:59
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terahertSame with chromium also19:00
co-XZistUB12 update is taking forver -_-19:00
mojtabaschultza: When I click on adam on the right side, it shows mojtaba!!!19:00
schultzaim not currently loaded in the applications you are in at this moment.19:01
Ampelbeinmojtaba: Go into account options, did you set a local alias?19:01
vaurdanHey19:01
mojtabaAmpelbein: I am not sure. I am using pidgin19:01
Ampelbeinmojtaba: accounts -> IRC -> edit account19:01
co-XZisti stopped using pidgin a long time ago :)19:01
mojtabaco-XZist: Why? it is not good?19:02
mojtabaAmpelbein: Thanks19:02
co-XZistyes it is, just my preference.. I use irssi19:02
schultzaoh.. that can be confusing.19:02
vaurdanDoes SELinux block outside API connections?19:02
schultzathat's console based, co-XZist..  a lot of ppl are not comfortable on the console.19:03
vaurdando I have to add any iptables or else rules?19:03
terahertPidgin has horrible IRC handling thanks to broken irc protocol support in libpurple (pigdin backend). I would suggest any7one using it for IRC a lot to swiutch to hexchat or another IRC client of their choice.19:03
co-XZistschultza: yeah I know..thats why i said "just my preference"19:03
co-XZistI'm not a fan of GUI's19:03
terahertI like KVIrc, but I am not an unity/gtk guy...19:03
schultzavaurdan: SELinux is a seperate Application based Firewall (seperate of the iptables). I say this lightly as it sets application domain workspaces.19:04
OBI1hello19:04
schultzakvirc is kde/qt based.19:04
serewilee-nilee: ok thanks :) i will get that a look19:05
jeevanushi, im using 32 bit linux, is it possible to have 64 bit os inside my machine?19:05
jeevanusatleast a 64 bit terminal19:05
schultzano.. youd have to start with 64 bit.. then use 32 bit applications19:06
* schultza off to gaming.19:06
OBI1use tumb drive and install 64 bit on it and save your files on the hard drive19:06
wilee-nileesere, I did see a thread on xda and mtp on 12.04 there might be info on that site.19:07
terahertschultza:pofc its KDE/Qt based, hence why I said I am NOT a unity/gtk guy19:07
guest8989Anyone here have experience with setting up ssh authentication via ldap/sasl against Active Directory19:07
terahertI much prefer QT for usage and coding to GTK19:08
guest8989all the guides i have found are somewhat confusing19:08
terahertQT's developer tools are a godsend compared to gtk19:08
schultzapofc? never heard of it19:09
OBI1what other desktop enviroments i can install in Ubuntu exept Unity, Gnome3,KDE19:09
vaurdanschultza, and how can I add a IP to the whitelist?19:09
terahertkvirc*19:09
teraherterr19:09
terahertI meant to type ofc*19:09
vaurdanI want to be able to communicate with api.myprovider.com19:09
co-XZistjeevanus: Try OracleVM for linux.. I think it can run both 32 and 64bit OS's19:09
terahertie ofc = of course19:09
Eighteensi just changed my motherboard, and my computer has a new static ip, what command do i type to set it back to my old ip19:09
OBI1Hi wille19:09
lord4163vaurdan: using your firewall? :)19:09
schultzai dont know SELinux very well, vaurdan.19:09
auronandaceOBI1: xfce, lxde, enlightenment19:10
vaurdanwhen I ping it from my server, it doesn't reply; when I ping it from my machine I got a reply19:10
OBI1enlightment that new one19:10
schultzalord4163: I think he is saying his selinux is in the way, not iptables.19:10
vaurdanlord4163, can you give me a quick tip? :p19:10
schultzavaurdan: pastebin your "iptables -L"19:10
lord4163vaurdan: ehm, no just read the last lines, don't know what you try to do? :P19:10
schultzastart with the actual kernel level network firewall (iptables).19:11
vaurdanschultza, http://pastebin.com/3qSYcM4s19:11
lord4163vaurdan: Maybe your server haven't got a DNS configured?19:11
vaurdanit has, I use dig19:12
vaurdanand yum19:12
schultzawell, it's not iptables.. there is no deny/drop in there at all.19:12
schultzawhat message/s are you getting?19:12
vaurdan[root@gamerbox httpd]# ping api.wordpress.org19:13
vaurdanPING wordpress.org (66.155.40.250) 56(84) bytes of data.19:13
OBI1look like enlightment looks good19:13
vaurdanjust this, and it stuck here19:13
lord4163OBI1: There are plenty of them you can check arch' wiki there is a nice list of DE's here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Environment#List_of_desktop_environments and if you're an advanced power user you can check out a WM, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_Manager#List_of_window_managers19:13
vaurdanctrl+c and "26 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 25016ms"19:14
Marleneehow i upgrade nmap version19:14
schultzahang on.19:14
lord4163Marlenee: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nmap19:14
OBI1thanks lord i`m not "advance" but using linux for 8 yeras now as main OS19:14
OBI1And i love it19:15
lord4163OBI1: also depending on your target machine, on an old box you don't want to run Unity, GNOME Shell or KDE.19:15
schultzado you know how to temporarily [dis|en]able your SELinux?19:16
vaurdanyes, good idea :p19:16
SchrodingersScatOBI1: I like xfce which goes along with the xubuntu desktop option19:16
schultzaif selinux is disabled from blocking anything and iptables is open like i see.. you should be able to ping it.. and this action will show us that it is selinux and you will need to ask the experts of selinux how to fix this. selinux is still quite new at this time though.19:17
schultzaand there is an #selinux channel here on freenode.19:17
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OBI1i have used them all and i love the gnome2.0  and love to have it but well won`t happen so ineed similar desktop used to have option to customize the gnome now days you can't19:18
Marleneei do upgrade and nmap version is same as it -  Nmap 5.2119:18
schultzaum .. linuxmint is the new maintainer for the gnome 2 stuff. i just forgot what they call it.19:18
vaurdanschultza, thanks for the tip :)19:18
schultzawhat did you find out vaurdan?19:18
lord4163OBI1: I'm using Elementary OS, it's based of Ubuntu 12.04, but everything is custom made by the devs, from their DE to their webbrowser :)19:18
OBI1Cinnamon desktop19:18
lord4163OBI1: you can check out MATE or XFCE if you wanna have the GNOME 2.x experience.19:19
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lord4163OBI1: MATE = fork of GNOME 219:19
schultzamate is? what is cinnamon? the linuxmint fork of gnome 3?19:19
OBI1tnx lord i will look at it19:20
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OBI1http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/19:20
OBI1brb have to reboth19:21
OerHekscinnamon is in the ubuntu repo's, mate is unsupported here.19:21
raven_hi19:21
SchrodingersScatraven_: hey19:22
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raven_hdparm with external 3tb drive: how to disable/increase spindown-time?19:23
schultzaLinuxMint is the maintainer of both cinnamon (advantages of gnome3/gtk3 backbone) and mate (fork of no longer gnome maintained gnome 2).19:23
schultzaok19:23
schultzaand technically linuxmint should support both since they are maintaining both.19:23
Orioais anyone avialable for some help19:24
wilee-nileeOrioa, You have to state the issues for help.19:25
Obi1enlightment  did not work at all19:25
Orioaim having issues with a driver19:25
Orioai tried all the drivers offered but none seem to work19:26
wilee-nilee!details | Orioa this may help.19:26
ubottuOrioa this may help.: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:26
wilee-nileetons of drivers be specific19:26
Orioai have a nvidia graphics card and all of the drivers offered do not work i am on ubuntu 12.0419:27
lord4163OerHeks: Why ain't it in the repo?19:27
Orioaand im not sure what to do i am new to linux19:28
plusEVOrioa: play around19:28
wilee-nileeOrioa, If you run lspci in the terminal you can find the graphic hardware to include in youask for help.19:28
wilee-nileeyour ask*19:28
OerHekslord4163, it is a mint thing19:28
Obi1any news on DRM for linux?19:28
Obi1kids is killing me for the stuped Netflix19:29
auronandace!netflix | Obi119:29
ubottuObi1: If you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop19:29
hayerAnyone know of a program that can display info about a .png in terminal? Like dpi, width*height, etc?19:29
raven_hdparm with external 3tb drive: how to disable/increase spindown-time?19:30
lord4163OerHeks: Ok, but there are PPA's for it :)19:30
OrioaNVIDIA Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2)19:30
Orioai have played around with it tried all the drivers in the additional driver log19:31
Obi1AWESOME i can divorce Windows Officialy if that NETFLIX works  YEPY19:31
hayerhayer: use <file filename.png>19:31
co-XZistI wanted to divorce Windows completely19:32
OerHeksOrioa, that old 7150m needs the 173 driver  > http://askubuntu.com/a/27024819:33
co-XZistbut no driver for my ATIx150019:33
meethi. how do I change my default desktop environment? Like now i have xfce but I want openbox . so what should i edit?19:33
WarlockLordhey folks, looking for some help here. I had ubuntu 13.04 up and running, then I went to try to get hybrid graphics and vgaswitcheroo working. now I'm stuck on the ubuntu screen with the dots... any suggestions?19:33
Mekaari_depends on what your display manager is, meet.19:33
wilee-nileeOrioa, I see a bug on this, here are some threads to look through. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=GeForce+7150M+19:33
meetMekaari_: how do I find that out?19:34
Mekaari_but usually, you edit .xinitrc in your home directory.19:34
Orioaty19:34
Mekaari_meet: open .xinitrc and there should be something like19:35
Mekaari_exec startxfce419:35
OerHeksmeet, install openbox, logout, change DE, login19:35
GuneQuestion, If i got 4 partitions on a laptop using windows 7, and i clear one of them out, put in a ubuntu CD for installing. Can i repartition this empty partition to a slightly smaller size and add a swap partition without damaging the 3 windows partitions with data on them?19:35
Mekaari_change that to "exec openbox-session"19:35
wilee-nileeGune, 4 primaries oe 3 and a extended with logical partitions are the limits per HD.19:36
wilee-nileeor*19:36
meetOerHeks: actually I am currently on linux lite which is ubuntu based and uses "heavily modified xfce".  btw Mekaari_  I searched for .xinitrc in home but it is not there19:36
meetOerHeks: so when I login there is no option to switch to openbox.19:36
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meetOerHeks: *logout19:36
OerHeksmeet, in ubuntu there is, your lite version might be altered, i don't know19:37
Gunewilee-nilee: ah right, crap. Well, question 2. Can a usb drive run ubuntu well enough to allow for an IDE to run smoothly? An IDE such as netbeans, for c++/c coding and compiling19:37
Orioai have tried the 173 drivers that is what i am using now but it does not find my other monitor19:37
wilee-nileemeet, there is a #linuxlite channel it is not supported here.19:38
OerHeksOrioa, are you sure you have 173-updates, NOT nvidia-173 ?19:38
Orioayes19:38
meetwilee-nilee: actually I asked over there but got no reply for a long time.19:39
Orioai have the additional driver window open19:39
wilee-nileeGune, A usb is limited by its quality and the speed it can transfer to and from the computer. Many remove the firmware partition and have no problem, or put it in the extended you would add for ubuntu and the swap.19:39
wilee-nileemeet, Bummer, if you get support here it will just be incidental is all, most wont.19:40
Orioait works fine for the monitor on the laptop but does not let me use an additional monitor19:40
lord4163Gune: I wouldn't recommend it even on my HDD it's slow :D19:40
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GuneHeh i see. ok so do i remove 1 of the 4 windows partitions, create a new primary for ubuntu, and then create a 5th extended one to use as swap?19:42
thewrathhey all i was wondering if anyone has had the same issue. I attempted to install the 64 bit of 13.04 and when i reboot after the install it sits there at a blinking cursor19:43
Orioai had that same issue so went with 12.04 lte19:43
wilee-nileethewrath, More than one HD per-chance, no real indications of what you have done as problematic in general.19:44
wilee-nileeie 64 bit installs19:44
thewrathwilee-nilee: there is only one hard drive on it19:44
thewrathwilee-nilee: you are saying 64 bit installs for Ubuntu are problematic?19:45
wilee-nileethewrath, No,19:45
wilee-nileethewrath, This a usb install?19:45
crackerjackz!truecrypt19:45
thewrathno DVD19:45
ubottuTruecrypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume19:45
skorasaurus-alt!ubuntuforums19:45
ubottuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. Kubuntu Forums are found at http://www.kubuntuforums.net. There is also a channel on freenode IRC #ubuntuforums19:45
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InvaderZimhi19:45
crackerjackzwhat is the package name for truecrypt?19:45
thewrathwilee-nilee: linux mint 15 64 bit installs w/o issue19:46
thewrathso i was guessing it was something through the Ubuntu install19:46
wilee-nileethewrath, This is a good tool for fixing, best option may be running just the bootinfo summary and posting the url here and looking at it yourself. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair19:46
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | thewrath tey this19:47
ubottuthewrath tey this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:47
wilee-nileetry*19:47
wilee-nileethewrath, Mint has more drivers for some things that is what makes it popular try the nomodeset boot.19:48
AdvoWorkHi there, im working on a document which has approx 40 images in, these are massive and its making the document 100+MB. I'm wanting to resize the photos, so i basically renamed the .odt to .tar.gz, extracted it, went into the pictures folder, resized them all, compressed it back up and then renamed it back to .odt, but its now all corrupted. Anyone know how to do what I want but without destroying the document?19:48
ikoniaAdvoWork: what did you rename it ? that does nothing19:49
thewrathwilee-nilee: all right i am looking at the boot repair. sounds like i can install it so i will install it via the live Ubuntu19:49
wilee-nileethewrath, Try the nomodeset first19:49
thewrathwilee-nilee: I said that Linux Mint all ready boots w/o issue19:50
wilee-nileethewrath, Sounds more like a graphic driver issue, nomodeset should get you to the desktop to update and install drivers.19:50
thewrathwilee-nilee: nomedest is boot repair?19:50
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | thewrath19:51
ubottuthewrath: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:51
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wilee-nileethewrath, It is a grub edit, from a install per-session, in your case19:51
thewrathwilee-nilee: all right i am looking at that too19:52
thewrathi need to go through the process again stand by19:52
wilee-nileethewrath, miny has more drivers for a plug and play, that is why people like it in general, ubuntu has all the same driver options, but need loading at times.19:53
wilee-nileemint*19:53
AdvoWorkikonia, to be fair i dont know, but even so, that won't cause the corruptness would it?19:53
max64i'm using ubuntu 13.4 .. how can i install hotmail,gmail and yahoo icons on the left bar in the screen?19:53
ikoniaAdvoWork: it can do if you are changing the name and different apps treat it different19:54
fritz3170did anyone notice about this beetle سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ  ?19:54
wilee-nileemax64, You can access all three with thunderbird, or another.19:54
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thewrathwilee-nilee: when i had ubuntu installed it did not even get to a splash screen19:55
max64Wilee-nilee:there is icons of them i cam stick in the unity bar19:55
AdvoWorkikonia, but im changing it back afterwards, ill just try now without renaming19:56
wilee-nileethewrath, right a mkissing graphic driver will cause that, have you looked at the nomodeset link?19:56
thewrathstarting too now ... was getting the ubuntu install set up again19:56
wilee-nileemax64, Is that a are there icons? I don't know.19:56
wilee-nileethewrath, If you do not use the update while installing option, you can not get drivers you would have otherwise.19:57
thewrathwilee-nilee: are you saying the install updates during install?19:58
wilee-nileethewrath, It is best to have the install updates ticked on a install.19:59
wilee-nileegenerally especially if you have nvidia or other graphics hardware that may need drivers19:59
plusEVHi, I am running Lubuntu 13.04 and I have installed gsynaptics to manage my mouse. The problem is that any change I make does not save to a reboot. Anyone know how to fix this?20:00
wilee-nilee!gsynaptics20:02
plusEVor the settings turns on only when i start the program again20:02
plusEV!gsynaptics20:02
wilee-nileeplusEV, gsynaptics is a 3rd party source forge did you try the synaptics tap pad.20:03
flax_how do I do a search on my system for all .ogv files? ubuntu 12.0420:03
flax_gui20:03
wilee-nileeplusEV, I believe it had mouse support, what is the issue and ean goal here?20:03
wilee-nileehas*20:03
wilee-nileeflax_, search in home would be easiest probably20:04
plusEVhuh?20:04
plusEVI do not know what tap pad is20:04
plusEVI could not find any mouse setting after I installed Lubuntu so I read up on gsynaptics. No idea what tap pad is20:05
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kqr1does anybody know off-hand if there is a way to make pommed (a daemon for apple laptop hotkeys) change the volume of pulseaudio instead of an alsa channel?20:06
zoozhi people20:06
wilee-nileeplusEV, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad  you need to state the problems and goals in the end here.20:06
zoozwhat do you guys use for creating your own local APT repos?20:06
zoozI use reprepro, but it does not support multiple versions of the same package, otherwise it's great20:07
wilee-nileeplusEV, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse20:07
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bazhang!info apt-mirror | zooz20:07
ubottuzooz: apt-mirror (source: apt-mirror): APT sources mirroring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9-1 (raring), package size 13 kB, installed size 103 kB20:07
wilee-nileeplusEV, Is not a gui orientated as nice as it is.20:08
zoozbazhang, I use that too for mirroring existing repos.20:08
hanasakihow can I put multiple bootable iso usb images linux example.... on a single usb stick and select which at boot?20:08
wilee-nileeas*20:08
zoozbazhang, but I need a tool for creating repos from scratch for my own packages20:08
Ampelbeinzooz: dpkg-scanpackages should do what you want with the "-m" switch.20:08
wilee-nileehanasaki, I use the multisystem loader seen at pendrivelinux for loading from linux20:08
bazhangzooz, how many packages are we talking20:08
zoozAmpelbein, can it sign packages?20:08
flax_there is a hundred gig screen capture video file made with gtkrecordmydesktop and I can't locate it, what folder would it most likely be in20:09
wilee-nileehanasaki, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/20:09
zoozbazhang, around 10-15 new ones per day. So it will be changing constantly20:09
bazhangzooz, perhaps PPA system20:09
Orioaim totally lost..20:10
zoozbazhang, PPA is public right? I need to host private packages20:10
Ampelbeinzooz: Unfortunately dpkg-scanpackages doesn't support signed Release files.20:10
Ampelbeinzooz: But you could use apt-ftparchive for that.20:11
zoozthanks20:12
flax_in what folder do gtk-recordmydesktop files(.ogv) go into by default, if I didnt manually save the file20:14
plusEVwilee-nilee: My problem is that I want to disable the pager scrolling. Like srolling gives me new desktop. I can not find any option for pager when I run synclient -l20:15
wilee-nileeplusEV, Not sure myself, you might try the #lubuntu channel as well20:15
plusEVwilee-nilee: I found it on the bottom of the page you gave me now. But unsure of how to do it. :P20:17
plusEVsomething about openbox, but I do not undrstan what he means.20:17
wilee-nileeplusEV, Lots of excellent helpers here, you can probably get this resolved, just not an area I'm sure in is all. ;)20:17
plusEVwilee-nilee: nevermind my dumbass chromium f.. up the site. I can read it now. :)20:18
BluesKaj,!openbox | plusEV20:20
BluesKajoops20:20
BluesKaj!openbox | plusEV20:20
ubottuplusEV: openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox20:20
AdvoWorkQuick query - ive had some of my staff write documents for me in libre office, ive seen them and they looked ok, ive opened them on my laptop and the formatting has all gone random, ie photos/bullet points overlap etc, any idea why this could happen, but my lappy and other machines are Ubuntu...20:21
Dr_WillisOpened them in an older version of libreoffice ?20:22
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AdvoWorkDr_Willis, maybe :S  i cant check either as at home now20:24
Dr_Willisthats about the only thing i can think of. Unles they are saveing it in some weird way.20:24
Dr_Willisthere is a libreoffice channel i belive20:24
flax_Dr_Willis, there is a large .ogv file on my system that I can't find, it's not in the home folder, what folder are gtk-recordmyscreen files stored by default?20:24
daftykinsflax_: "sudo updatedb" "locate ogv" ?20:25
Dr_Willisyou mean 'gtk-recordmydesktop' ?20:26
flax_Dr_Willis, yes20:26
Dr_Willislooks like they save to your home by default.20:26
Dr_Willisbut they may have some tmp file they use20:26
flax_where would the tmp files be20:27
Dr_Willis /tmp/  would be my guess20:28
Ampelbeinflax_: Usually in /tmp, unless your $TMPDIR is set to something else20:28
Dr_Willissettings for gtk-recordmydesktop --->   working directory  ---> /tmp20:28
Dr_Willis;)20:28
amireldorcommand to determine modem on computer for placing its model in a google search, coz of repeated disconnection problems?20:29
amireldor(helping a friend)20:29
Ampelbeinamireldor: lspci? lsusb?20:29
Dr_Willis!info hwinfo20:30
ubottuhwinfo (source: hwinfo): Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 16.0-2.2 (raring), package size 17 kB, installed size 99 kB20:30
Dr_Willis'modem' is such a broad term these days ;)  3g? dialup? ADSL?20:33
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FloodBot1sinann390: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:38
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Dr_Willishmm.  If reencoding a video via handbreak. and its a CGI animation, would the  x264 Tuneing option of 'Animation' be best? or would that mainly be for the More classic style anime/animation/cartoons?20:40
skegeekDo you have to install Ubuntu via USB to have "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows"?20:42
Dr_Willisskegeek:  options should be the same20:42
Dr_Willisbiggest issue ive seen with that option. - IF you have 4 primary partions allready made. it may not allow it.20:42
skegeekI tried installing 13.04 via CD, it didn't offer that option, only offered options for partitioninig.20:43
skegeekDoes it automatically partition using install alongside windows option?20:44
Dr_Willispersonally i would resize/repartion manually.  but thats because i tend to know what i want. ;)20:45
jhutchinsskegeek: When you are partitioning you can resize the existing Windows partitions.  That's what you do for dual boot.20:45
Dr_WillisI tend to let windows resize/shrink its own partions - befor i do the ubuntu install. windows seems a LOT faster at the task20:45
BluesKajskegeek, yes , it should , but "guided" partitioning is probly safer20:45
jhutchinsskegeek: It would be really nice to make a backup before you start messing with it.20:46
b0unceWhat's the internet daemon in 13.04 (from what I can enable/disable internet services)?20:47
Dr_Willisb0unce:  no such thing as far as i know. You manage services via the Upstart settings/scripts20:47
Dr_Willis!upstart20:47
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/20:47
AdvoWorkhow can i upgrade libreoffice(just this application) in ubuntu 13.04?20:48
Dr_WillisAdvoWork:  you want one thats newer then whats in the repos? if so use a PPA.20:48
b0unceDr_Willis: I remember something such inetd20:49
Ampelbeinb0unce: I don't have a 13.04 install handy to check, but isn't the default stil inetutils-inetd? You can do "dpkg -l | grep inetd" to check.20:49
Dr_Willisb0unce:  i dont think thats been used for years on ubuntu20:49
Dr_Williswasent it xinetd ages ago?20:49
b0unceAmpelbein: it gives me "update-inetd" as installed. Where's the conf file?20:50
Dr_Willischanged i mean20:50
Dr_Willis locate inetd20:50
Dr_Willis/etc/inetd.conf20:50
b0unceDr_Willis: I don't have that file in /etc20:50
Ampelbeinb0unce: update-inetd is just a tool to enable/disable entries in /etc/inetd.conf20:50
AdvoWorkDr_Willis, i dont know if im using the latest version anyway, can i do sudo apt-get update libreoffice ?20:51
Dr_Willismy inetd.conf is all... comments.. ;)20:51
b0unceAmpelbein: alright, thanks. I think now it's clear.20:51
Dr_WillisAdvoWork:  some weird reason you dont want your whole system  up to date?20:51
AdvoWorknopf, true20:52
Dr_Willismakes me wonder what inetd is actually doing.20:52
AdvoWork*nope20:52
pfifoDr_Willis, taking up space20:52
Ampelbeinb0unce: It could be that you don't have any package installed that actually requires a superserver. In which case you could install inetutils-inetd or another.20:52
skegeekI have resized to create Ubuntu partitions, however, partitions always seem to be a bit off of the size I specify.20:52
Dr_Willisi think it got pulled in  when i set up fail2ban perhaps20:52
Dr_Willisskegeek:  rounding to the nearest sector/clyinder or somthing i recall.20:52
AmpelbeinDr_Willis: It's a server that reacts to connection requests on ports and starts the "real" server.20:53
b0unceAmpelbein: Many thanks. :)20:53
AmpelbeinDr_Willis: It saves memory and cpu due to fewer processes running as servers only get started when they are actually needed.20:53
pfifoskegeek, dont forget 1024 bytes = 1 kb (not 1000) and the filesystem itself requires some space, and 5% is usually reserved for root so it appears as if its used20:54
Obi1hello20:54
Willdude123http://imgur.com/6C8G2TL20:54
Willdude123^it was an accident20:54
Willdude123Tried to set up vlc over web interface, doesn't work.20:54
Obi1any one have run or running Bodhi linux?20:54
Willdude123But this is 10 times cooler20:54
Dr_WillisAmpelbein:  and its the kind of thing most people never need to touch. ;)20:55
siberiannerdcould someone point me at my mistake or give some useful tips? why can't i get the window id from known pid directly or vice versa for wine window http://pastebin.com/Bp1SDAyK ?20:55
AmpelbeinDr_Willis: True.20:55
AmpelbeinI remember that upstart should get a similar functionality, but haven't checked how far that project has come.20:55
pfifosiberiannerd, try asking in #winehq20:57
siberiannerdpfifo, tried that20:58
siberiannerdsomeone told i could try my distro support channel so i'm here20:58
Dr_Willisbut the same method works for a non-wine window ?21:00
koko0hi, ive upgraded to 13.10 and now cant assign shortcut to switch input language.21:02
koko0well, i can  assign, its just not switching.21:03
siberiannerdDr_Willis, it shows me pids for visible native windows at least, always21:04
Dr_Willis 13.10 support in #ubuntu+121:04
koko0k ty :)21:04
Ampelbeinsiberiannerd: There was/is a bug with invisible, blocking windows.21:04
Ampelbeinsiberiannerd: Let me check if I can find it.21:04
siberiannerdAmpelbein, wow thanks21:04
Ampelbeinbug 70946121:05
ubottubug 709461 in unity (Ubuntu) "Application windows can sometimes fail to display and will mask regions of the screen" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70946121:05
AmpelbeinBut doesn't look like it's resolved21:05
siberiannerdAmpelbein, why it's "compiz"?21:05
siberiannerdi don't use one for example21:06
siberiannerdand btw the window itself is fine21:06
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Ampelbeinsiberiannerd: Oh, ok. I only had the missing NET_WM_PID with those invisible windows.21:07
siberiannerdAmpelbein, thanks anyway, i'll try to investigate if there could be something in common21:08
DuncanNZhow do you "connect as" to a windows network share which allows public access but also shows more content with login?21:10
b0bbi10hi21:12
axgbhi, I cannot edit my home directory contents or access a usb stick unless root21:12
daftykinsaxgb: did you restore your home from a backup or external drive?21:12
axgbyes,21:13
b0bbi10if I intend to use Full Disk Encryption with an existing Full Disk Encrypted /home partition, is there a way to encrypt all devices using one password (will use the same password for encrypting the new Ubuntu installation)?21:13
axgbNot with an automated thing, i just copied and pasted with usb stick21:13
yumbonoaxgb: you can use the "chown" command to set the owner of your home directory to your user21:13
pfifob0bbi10, i encrypted my /, and on it i put a few encryption keys (files) for the rest of my partitions.21:14
axgbMy user name is ariel, tell me the command21:14
pfifob0bbi10, hence only need 1 password21:14
daftykinsaxgb: as root? yeah you're going to need to take ownership as yumbono says21:14
daftykinsaxgb: sudo chown -R ariel: /home/ariel/21:14
yumbonoaxgb: you can do it with "sudo chown -R ariel /home/ariel21:14
yumbonoyeah, what daftykinssaid21:15
yumbonosaid*21:15
b0bbi10pfifo: ok, good to know21:15
b0bbi10then I'll see how I can set it up21:15
Dr_Willis!permissions > axgb21:16
ubottuaxgb, please see my private message21:16
daftykinsyumbono: high-five sir21:16
axgbHi, Yumbono, it says permission denied, i did it as sudo21:17
daftykinsaxgb: can you pastebin what you did?21:17
daftykinscopy it straight out of the terminal21:18
daftykinspreferably with an "ls -l /home/" beside it too21:18
axgbhi, the problem with home has gone, there is still an issue with USB sticjks21:20
serell21:22
b0bbi10pfifo: sorry to bother you but I got another question concerning LUKS. is there any configuration file so that I can see how LUKS is currently set up (which device is mounted with which options etc.)?21:22
amireldorAmpelbein, hmm OK I guess21:26
bazzerusing 12.04 and just mounted via loopback a large number (16) of iso images and now gvfs-gdu-volume is taxing my cpu...any ideas?21:26
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sereQuestion: I can see my driod in rhythmbox but cant sync any files to it.. no errors just wont copy21:41
JofironsesHello, is it possible to grow a raid0 without file loss. That is, add another hard disk to an existing array, while maintaining all data. (I'm using software raid by the way)21:48
compdocraid0 is two drives now?21:51
compdocstriped for speed?21:52
Jofironsescompdoc: Yes21:54
daftykinsJofironses: my instinct would be no21:55
daftykinsbut i don't use software based21:56
flax_in what folder are most program files stored?21:59
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yumbonoflax_: what do you need that for?22:01
jouffluhow do remove the notification of when someone joins and leaves in irssi ?22:01
jouffluerr disable*22:01
nabbletjoufflu: what client do you use?22:02
joufflunabblet: irssi22:02
flax_ymbono, to check xchat files22:02
yumbonoflax_: what do you want to find? logs?22:03
nabbletjoufflu: http://irssi.org/documentation/tips22:03
nabbletjoufflu: there is also an irssi channel ;)22:03
joufflunabblet: thank you sir22:03
* Dr_Willis likes weechats smart part/join filters22:04
nabbletDr_Willis: what makes it smart?22:04
Dr_Willisnabblet:  if you quit now/ or part..it shows it.. if you stay quiet for 5 min, or never say anythng. it dosent show them22:04
Dr_Willisalso alt-=  can toggle them to show me what ones got hidden.22:05
nabbletjoufflu: also look a bit around - irssi alone is not that fun - but the scripts make it pretty useful!22:05
Dr_Willisweechat also has basically a 'package manager' for its scripts22:05
Dr_Willis;)22:05
nabbletoooohhhh, shiny!22:05
Dr_Willisbut you WILL want to read the weechat docs/guides/starter guide22:06
Dr_Willisalso theres a weechat-android client that connects to your weechat session.22:06
Dr_Willisbut its a bit crashy right now22:06
nabbletwell, usually i use tmux+irssi22:07
nabblettmux is some kind fo screen - but better ;)22:07
nabbletthat weechat thing looks interesting!22:07
Dr_Willisfor ages i used znc+weechat+tmux or whatever :) but with znc - the use of  tmux was a little overkill22:07
Dr_Willisraspberry pi = my znc/irc server/gateway ;)22:07
Dr_Willisid connect to it via znc from any other client. then i basically was here 24/7 :)22:08
Dr_Willis3+ differnt pcs/irc clients --> all connected to the same znc  server, all routeing me here.22:09
Dr_Willisi could go to any pc in the house, or tablet/phone and still be on the same nick/session here.22:09
nabblet!znc22:12
nabblet:(22:12
Dr_Willis!info znc22:12
ubottuznc (source: znc): advanced modular IRC bouncer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-2ubuntu1 (raring), package size 1013 kB, installed size 3357 kB22:12
Dr_Williswith weechat i got the mode changes by the bots/ops  going to a diffent window also. so i dont see the mode change floods that often happen in here. ;)22:13
nabbletDr_Willis: you can do that irssi to22:13
Dr_Willisbut i dont need scripts to do it. its a built in feature22:14
Dr_Willisi just cant rember how i enabled the feature. ;P22:14
nabbletahahaha22:14
Dr_Willisbeen using the same weechat setup for like 2 years22:14
nabbletit's a pain to be to redo things i did long ago22:15
nabbletusually all i remember is: it was a pain and there was a twist somewhere22:15
nabblet:P22:15
mega1when i loged into my server it said there was 85 updates so i installed now it says there was an error22:15
nabblet:(22:15
SubCoolhow do i deteremine which harddrive of mine is ata9?22:15
SubCoolaccording to dmesg?22:15
pcshey22:15
nabbletDr_Willis: i don't get the idea behind an irc bouncer. here is what i do: tumx + irssi some where. and then ssh to that computer and open the tmux sessions. what value will an irc bouncer add for me?22:16
mega1dpkg returned an error code (1)22:16
Dr_Willisnabblet:  as i said eralier - i have 4 pcs in the house.. all go to the bouncer.. then they show whats here.22:17
Dr_Willisthey can be running ANY irc client. it dosent matter.22:17
Dr_Willisi chat here.. go to the garrage..  that pc/client shows the same dialog/info.22:17
Dr_Willisi turn off all 4 pcs' the znc server stays here and logs stuff.. i connect via phone.. it shows the history. I never 'appear' to leave here22:18
Dr_Willisso. No ned to use ssh/tmux, any client can have a peristant session.22:18
Dr_Willisand multi clients appear as a single client here.22:18
nabbletah ok22:19
CorvaxiaSo. I have 13.04 with Steam running through WINE. Everything runs fine except for my microphone. The Yeti Mic works in ubuntu but when testing it on Steam I sound like a chipmunk. Where should I start poking around?22:19
nabbletbrb22:20
flax_  how do you start weechat if it's installed but not in the gnome panel?22:21
wilee-nileeCorvaxia, Do we get a sample of the chipmunk voice. ;)22:21
FrostyXHi, I am trying to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/hamster-indicator/0.1+037dd2e-0ubuntu1 from tar.gz and I got this python error http://pastebin.com/mNdcU26u . Do you know how to fix it please?22:21
troiihow do i install iceweasel22:22
IdleOnetroii: like I said in #freenode 11.10 is no longer supported, install 12.04LTS and you will be able to install iceweasel22:22
CorvaxiaI would have to install audacity on my wine install but maaaaaaaybe22:22
troiihow do i upgrade22:22
Akiva-Mobilewith ubuntuone, is it possible to give out a link for anyone to use a folder, rather than having to add everyone specifically by email?22:22
IdleOnetroii: if you don't want to upgrade. There is nothing we can do to help you.22:22
Dr_Willis!upgrade | troii22:22
ubottutroii: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade22:22
troiiapt-get upgrade doesnt work22:22
CorvaxiaI'm just wondering if there is a specific package I have to install for my ALC889  soundcard or the yeti mic22:22
IdleOne!eolupgrade | troii22:23
ubottutroii: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:23
SubCoolOk- so.. um.. ive been having HDD issues..22:23
troiiMy PC is secure22:24
afterm4thسمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ22:24
nabbletDr_Willis: btw. what's the correct term for not transfering logindata for irc nicks in clear text?22:24
nurupois there a PPA with precompiled Qt 5.1.x packages? can't find any22:24
Dr_Willisnabblet:  you mean encrypting?22:25
nabbletDr_Willis: afaik, if i identify at nickserv, my password will be transferred unencrpyted if no meausres are taken22:25
Dr_Willisnabblet:  or ssl ?22:25
troiiIDLEONE i installed iceweasel but instead i get firefox22:25
Dr_Willisnabblet:  weechat replaces your password with a * if you accidently do that in a chennel.22:25
troii:SSSS22:25
SubCoolwhich log file would i pull up to figure out which hdd is going nuts when it crashes again?22:25
Dr_Willisnabblet:  and freenode has sasl features as well22:25
wilee-nileenabblet, You can set a delay22:25
nabbletwilee-nilee: oh yes, i remeber something about delay XD22:26
nabbletso that it has time to register...22:26
wilee-nileeyep22:26
nabbletso what's the therm for that: encrypted loging?22:26
Dr_Willisnabblet:  and freenode has sasl features as well22:26
nabbletsasl22:26
nabbletok22:26
nabbletwill look for hat22:26
nabblet*that22:26
nabbletthank you22:27
FloodBot1nabblet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:27
Dr_Willisznc and weechat support it. as do most mondern irc clients22:27
troiidoes this channel support KU-BUNTU22:27
Dr_Willissometimes i cant get to freenode via my cellphone. unless i use sasl22:27
Dr_Willistroii:  to some degree - yes22:27
wilee-nileethe released version yes22:27
nabblet!kubuntu22:27
ubottuKubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde22:27
troiihow about BloatBuntu ?22:27
nabblet^ troii22:27
wilee-nileecanonical associated releases only22:28
nabbletis there a way in ubuntu to make "real" annotations to pdfs? like acrobat does?22:29
troiiUbuntu is blotware22:30
nabbletususally additional files are required or something like that22:30
nabblettroii: well, take that to #troll22:30
wiaki have a *slow* problem, my realtek 8111F gigabit ethernet only gives me 32 mb/s max over sftp and 12 mb/s over samba, this is on a 8 disk RAID6, ubuntu 12.04 amd64, hdparm gives me Timing buffered disk reads: 998 MB in 3.00 seconds = 332.58 MB/sec on the array22:40
wiaksoo its not the harddrive(S)22:40
wiakwindows 8 > ubuntu 12.04 LTS AMD64 Samba22:41
daftykinswiak: buffered is useless, bench non-buffered22:41
daftykinswiak: is it software RAID?22:41
ziadingorun=$(sudo /home/ziadingo/sc)22:43
ziadingo$run22:43
ziadingowhy does'nt work? I want set command to var22:43
tsimpsonziadingo: $() executes the command between the parentheses and returns the output of the command22:43
LeinardoSmith_hello does anyone have experience using samba and cups to serve windows printer drivers?22:43
wiakdaftykins: fake hardware raid i belive its a marvell chip/highpoint btw when i use sftp and copy a file from the os ssd disk i get the same speed, so its network not raid/ssd22:44
wilee-nileeLeinardoSmith_, The channel works with stating the issues for help.22:46
LeinardoSmith_oh ok22:46
ziadingotsimpson: ok, but if jei my bash file eg. /home/ziadingo/sc/files/bash, every time write file location not good idea22:46
tsimpsonziadingo: I didn't understand you22:47
LeinardoSmith_I am getting a WERR_ACCESS_DENIED error when I try to run "sudo cupsaddsmb -v -a"22:47
daftykinswiak: have you tried iperf to confirm your network is up to the task?22:48
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ziadingotsimpson: i want to run file /home/ziadingo/sc/files/bash.txt22:48
ziadingoDid imposible long command set to variable>22:48
ziadingo?22:48
SmokingFreakgood morning22:48
tsimpsonziadingo: set the variable to the command with double-quotes, don't use $()22:49
wiakdaftykins: well i *know* it can do 112 MB/s, but after i updated something in ubuntu, it went down to 12 MB/s22:49
tsimpsonziadingo: command="sudo /home/me/whatever/the/file/is"; $command22:50
LeinardoSmith_anybody?22:51
ziadingotsimpson: thx22:51
jfklsdajkfsdafdsa22:53
herbstwindlist22:53
LeinardoSmith_I am trying to set up cups and samba to serve the windows drivers as needed but I am running into an error: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED22:53
jfklsdajkfsdaCan anyone help me with some big issues please?22:55
wiak[148] 0.0-10.0 sec 1.10 GBytes 939 Mbits/sec is iperf daftykins btw thx for the tip mate22:55
SmokingFreakwhat up?22:55
nabbletis there a packages for ubuntu like pastebinit but for images?22:55
SmokingFreakyeah 1sec got link for you22:56
Apacheznabblet: owncloud?22:56
jfklsdajkfsdawell, this new ubuntu update installed and since then when i boot i get black screen22:56
wilee-nilee!imagebin22:56
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.22:56
SmokingFreakhttp://beeg.com/6982198 here you go mate ;)22:56
jfklsdajkfsdaand after i restarted couple of times it just shows up desktop background without any system trays22:56
wiakjfklsdajkfsda: what typo of graphics do you have?22:57
jfklsdajkfsdaidk what's going on22:57
jfklsdajkfsdaamd 577022:57
wiaksometimes you need to reinstall the gpu drivers22:57
jfklsdajkfsdai have some beta drivers22:57
nabbletApachez: would be a bit of an overkill ;)22:57
jfklsdajkfsdaok i'll try with that22:57
jfklsdajkfsdatnx22:57
wiaktry go into console and run amdconfig --initial22:57
wiak:P22:57
nabbletwilee-nilee: something like this http://argandgahandapandpa.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/command-line-script-to-upload-images-to-imagebin/22:57
wiakjfklsdajkfsda: http://nwgat.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/amd-catalyst-on-linux-howto-black-screen-fix/22:58
nabbletwilee-nilee: but from repos so that i can be sure it is maintained22:58
wiakthankly i had the same problemo :P22:58
jfklsdajkfsdalike i click start key on keyboard and nothing comes up22:58
jfklsdajkfsdahow do i run command22:58
jfklsdajkfsdaor terminal22:58
jfklsdajkfsdatnx wiak22:59
wiakfollow the Black screen on boot Fix (uninstall driver) part22:59
nabbletwell, i'll use that script then22:59
Dr_Willisjfklsdajkfsda:  you do or do not get a graphical Login screen? (lightdm)22:59
wiakand then install driver again jfklsdajkfsda22:59
jfklsdajkfsdai got it after i restarded pc couple of times, and after i did some stuff in recovery mode22:59
wiakDr_Willis i had the same problem, it comes from xorg and driver not being friends ;)22:59
Dr_Willisjfklsdajkfsda:  somthing else to try is to make a new user via the console and  see if they aork.22:59
Dr_Williswiak:  ive seen it happen for dozens of reasons. ;)  (the no panels bit)23:00
jfklsdajkfsdaright, i have no panels23:00
wiak<- had black screen23:00
jfklsdajkfsdabut don't have black screen anymore23:00
jfklsdajkfsdajust no panels23:00
Dr_Willisjfklsdajkfsda:  try the guest user, and making a new user. see if they work. if SO then that points to a user setting issue23:00
wiakcheck /.config folder23:01
wiakDr_Willis: yeah the most simple is to make a new user23:01
jfklsdajkfsdayeah, but how do i make a new user23:01
jfklsdajkfsdaif i can't open any system related tools23:01
Dr_Willissudo adduser billgates23:01
Dr_Willisat the console23:01
jfklsdajkfsdaand how to open console :p23:01
daftykinsrun the Terminal23:02
jfklsdajkfsdarly... is there some shortcut?23:02
jfklsdajkfsdalol i know23:02
jfklsdajkfsdabut how23:02
LeinardoSmith_I am trying to set up cups and samba to serve the windows drivers as needed but I am running into an error: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED23:02
daftykins¬_¬23:02
Dr_Willisuse the console.. thats the easy way23:02
LeinardoSmith_anybody any ideas?23:02
jfklsdajkfsdabut how to open console23:02
jfklsdajkfsdawhat do i press23:02
jfklsdajkfsdai don't have it on desktop23:02
Dr_Willisalt-ctrl-f123:03
jfklsdajkfsdaok thank you23:03
Dr_Willisits not a desktop thang. ;)23:03
Dr_Willisthen sudo service lightdm restart             to restart the X server23:03
jfklsdajkfsdaok23:04
jfklsdajkfsdawill try23:04
wiakyou can reconfigure the driver with amdconfig --initial23:05
wiakdaftykins: any clue? it seems iperf gives me gbit speeds but not sftp or samba23:05
chris5000anybody else have their ath9k break after upgrading to ubuntu 12.04.3?23:06
daftykinswiak: i'm hard pushed to think of what else i'd try - it'd be nice to drop a NIC in i guess :(23:06
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clong@daftykins What are you trying to do?23:12
wilee-nileechris5000, plenty here is you need to know, http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=relevance&pagesize=50&q=%20ath9k the channel works if you state the actual issue.23:14
wiakdaftykins: it is smb/sftp, iperf was around 1gbit right?23:14
daftykinsclong: i was the helper not the help-ee ;)23:15
wiakclong: slow problem with ubuntu and realtek gigabit23:15
daftykinswiak: have you tried watching top during a transfer to see if the processor is getting hammered?23:15
wiakAMD 5800K?23:16
wiaki dont run 100mhz penitum23:16
wiak:P23:16
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wiakwill do23:16
daftykinsno but it might highlight a driver/kernel issue23:16
wiak90 while copying 2gb iso file23:17
chris5000wilee-nilee: that doesn't help. upgrading broke my backports-3.11-rc3-1.tar.bz223:18
clong<daftykins> ok cool23:19
chris5000wilee-nilee: there are no newer versions according to https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/stable/v3.11-rc3/23:19
chris5000wilee-nilee: that's my specific question. any ideas?23:19
clongwiak: How slow is slow?23:19
FrostyXPlease, I am trying to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/hamster-indicator/0.1+037dd2e-0ubuntu1 from tar.gz and I got this python error http://pastebin.com/mNdcU26u . Do you know how to fix it please?23:19
daftykinswiak: ah, was the slow transfer not large contiguous files? was it a lot of small files?23:20
wilee-nileeFrostyX, running 11.10 right?23:20
jribFrostyX: why are you linking to a launchpad page?  How are you installing it?23:20
wiak2gb iso, sftp, samba gives me 20 cpu usage on a 4.4gb file23:21
FrostyXjrib wilee-nilee: I am trying to install it from tar.gz cause I am installing it on Gentoo23:21
jribFrostyX: this channel is for help with ubuntu23:21
wiakclong: well going from 112 mb/s to 12 mb/s is slow23:21
Dr_Willis!info hamster-indicator23:23
ubottuhamster-indicator (source: hamster-indicator): Hamster Appindicator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1+037dd2e-0ubuntu2 (raring), package size 73 kB, installed size 671 kB23:23
Dr_WillisGentoo supports Indicator applets?23:24
Dr_Willisthat would be a bit supriseing23:24
wiakdaftykins clong, now i have removed both ufw and iptables23:24
wiakwill se if it fixes it23:24
wiak:P23:24
daftykinsthe former uses the latter!23:25
wiak<- file server in a local network behind a router23:25
wiak:P23:25
FrostyXDr_Willis: I heard it works in other distributions too ..23:25
wiakthere its pointless to have firewalls23:25
daftykinswiak: *nod*23:26
wiakmust be firewall. having ufw and iptables at the same time hmm23:26
wiakthats must be a nono23:26
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OerHeksFrostyX, so you are running unity on gentoo and want that hamster-indicator working?23:31
wiakstill slow after reboot and removal of iptables and ufw daftykins :/23:31
FrostyXOerHeks: No I am not. I have only trayer app. My schoolmate told me, he has this hamster-indicator on different distro than ubuntu and running KDE, so I am trying to install it on my Gentoo + Xmonad + trayer23:34
daftykinswiak: :( out of ideas i'm afraid! beyond researching that realtek model and issues23:35
FrostyXWhat is that hamster.configuration python module? You have it in some ubuntu package or something?23:36
Dr_WillisFrostyX:  indicator applets dont go in the 'system tray' the inticator-applet 'thing' is a ubuntu invention to replace the old system tray23:41
Dr_WillisFrostyX:  https://github.com/shiznix/unity-gentoo/blob/master/unity-indicators/indicator-applet/indicator-applet-12.10.2_p0_p01.ebuild  might be needed. I dont use gentoo any more.  and you really should be asking in #gentoo23:43
adrimircHi can someone help me?23:44
adrimircSomeone?23:45
gmachine_24greetings. am looking for software to batch watermark photos... for Linux, obviously23:47
jribgmachine_24: imagemagick23:47
gmachine_24jrib: ok I will check that out. Thanks.23:47
adrimircHi I have a problem with the audio I hear a distortion23:47
gmachine_24adrimirc: you need to be more specific23:48
gmachine_24adrimirc: unless you want us to guess23:48
adrimircI use a tv as screen and when I use the tv as the sound devices with the hdmi its sounds well but when I use my Razer Megalodon headset as the audio device I hear the sound with a distortion23:50
adrimircSomeone know how to solve this?23:52
gmachine_24adrimirc: did you try just plugging speakers into the headset port to see if it's your headset?23:52
gmachine_24:-)23:52
adrimircYes, I plugged them in another PC and they work great23:54
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adrimircWhat can I do?23:57
LeinardoSmith_I am trying to set up cups and samba to serve the windows drivers as needed but I am running into an error: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED23:58
LeinardoSmith_anybody any ideas?23:58

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