[00:00] <bl4ckdu5t> 12.04
[00:01] <bl4ckdu5t> wilee-nilee: I have a 4Gb ram and I think it's ok
[00:02] <DonkeyHotei> you have to have more swap than ram to hibernate
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> bl4ckdu5t, Some do not work so well, these threads show all the options to test it. Make sure the swap is at least 4 gigs slightly more is best. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=12.04+hibernate
[00:02] <bekks> DonkeyHotei: Marginally more swap, 4.1G swap for 4G RAM is ok for hibernation.
[00:03] <DonkeyHotei> yes
[00:04] <bl4ckdu5t> wilee-nilee: Thanks!
[00:04] <ninaneufeld> why is ubuntu so cool?
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> bl4ckdu5t no problem, hopefully that helps.
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> ninaneufeld, Not a support topic try #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:06] <bl4ckdu5t> yea
[00:06] <DonkeyHotei> it's cool because it's not overheating your system :P
[00:07] <dr_willis> unless theres a powersaveing bug
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> SubCool, The packages will be different versions most likely in 12.04, you can make a list of whats installed though with. dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> SubCool, I have a list of all my secondary package installs for fresh installs and any PPa's and keys, for fresh installs
[00:11] <SubCool> ah.. im using it wrong
[00:12] <NickRice> how can i edit my file system on xubuntu
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> NickRice, The partitions?
[00:12] <NickRice> no with vbox
[00:12] <NickRice> i mean
[00:12] <NickRice> i cant put files INTO the system
[00:12] <yigal> hello anyone use Netflix with 4000hd intel I've had to change the acceleration to uxa from sna as it was breaking X every hour or two.  The question I have is what settings are you people using to watch NetFlix as hassle free as possible?
[00:12] <NickRice> i can just make copies on the desktop
[00:13] <NickRice> i wanna put a C++ header in usr/include but it refused to copy over
[00:13] <bekks> NickRice: Because thats not possible with every guest OS running in vbox and it depends on the settings of your vm.
[00:13] <DonkeyHotei> yigal: doesn't netflix need silverlight?
[00:13] <bekks> NickRice: You have to use the same mechanism as if you were using a second PC.
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> yigal, It runs in a wine envoroment I believe.
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> environment*
[00:14] <NickRice> no no u misudnerstand
[00:14] <NickRice> the file is IN ubuntu
[00:14] <NickRice> this is all local in vbox
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> !who | Nickeeh
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> NickRice, ^^^^
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> sorry Nickeeh
[00:14] <bekks> NickRice: As a normal user you do not have permissions to copy files somewhere outside your home.
[00:14] <NickRice> wilee-nileei downloaded the file IN xubuntu, and am trying to move it from the xubuntu desktop to xubuntop file system
[00:15] <NickRice> bekks:*
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> tab complete to notify the user NickRice
[00:16] <DonkeyHotei> NickRice: you shouldn't need to mess with the filesystem as a normal user
[00:17] <yigal> wilee-nilee: yes, exactly
[00:17] <yigal> wilee-nilee: that's why video is wonky
[00:17] <calwig> whats the word of the day application in gnome called?
[00:17] <NickRice> DonkeyHotel: How else can i make Codeblocks access the class file... i need to put it in usr/included but it wont go in!
[00:18] <yigal> wilee-nilee: but it works even with a non-dedicated video card.  The only problem is that using the more advanced 3d SNA it breaks very quickly
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> yigal, not sure of any fix, I don't use Netflix, you might ask in #winehq as just a suggestion is all.
[00:20] <yigal> wilee-nilee: cool man this is more specific to the X drivers being used in Ubuntu 13.04 but I will try my luck there as well
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> yigal, Sounds like it, hard to say how many use that app, and know anything, especially here.
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> !find word of the day
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> calwig, closest I could find. http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomewotdapplet/
[00:24] <calwig>  dude youre totally cool
[00:24] <calwig> thx
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> a bad site though this is gtk 2 http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/GNOME-Word-of-the-Day-10171.shtml calwig
[00:25] <DonkeyHotei> NickRice: what is codeblocks, and why does it need the system messed with?
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> calwig, It looks to not being supported as far as I can tell, but that is just all I found.
[00:27] <calwig> will have a look at it to install
[00:31] <Diffyum> what package gives me GL/glext.h?
[00:32] <OldTexas> Cool
[00:34] <OldTexas> Y'all jes chat about ubuntu here?
[00:35] <Ben66> this is a support channel, for chatting and other offtopic stuff, there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:35] <OldTexas> TY cool
[00:38] <ozzloy> i'm trying to bring my bluetooth back up without rebooting.  i just woke from suspend and now bt is not coming up.  i've tried rfkill unblock and service bluetooth restart to no avail.  what do?  what log can i check for clues?
[00:38] <ozzloy> ubuntu 12.04
[00:41] <SubCool> ok... question. I am about to resort back to 12.04.3 for stability, but i like a lot of the plasma option and such from 13. - is there a way to save those packages? or somthing? Well, i know there is a way, but is there a simple way?
[00:41] <kostkon> ozzloy, try:   sudo hciconfig hci0 reset
[00:45] <OerHeks> SubCool, so you would risk stability, using backports or something on 12.04 to get latest packages meant for 13.04?
[00:48] <SubCool> OerHeks, Kinda? - i just want a few of the gui plasma updates... -
[00:50] <SubCool> brb..
[00:57] <mrproper> If I want to install 12.04 Server from a USB key, do I need to do anything fancy besides use something to copy the ISO to a USB key and then boot off it?
[00:57] <mrproper> I tried it and it said can't read from the CD, which would be completely true since it's usb
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> mrproper, You can dd it to the usb or use a loader there are a handful at the least
[00:58] <mrproper> wilee-nilee: I used one of the ones for Windows, and I figured it worked great.
[00:58] <LaCroix-> Good evening folks
[00:58] <mrproper> wilee-nilee: But like I said, the installer was looking for a CD-ROM.
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> mrproper, try unetbootin
[00:59] <mrproper> wilee-nilee: I did but it was odd and it wouldn't let me  boot. I'll try that again.
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> mrproper, with the ISO, not a download.
[00:59] <Obi1> hello
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> mrproper, there is also the mini netload.
[01:00] <ni291187> ll
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> mrproper, Some usb's boot better from the boot from menu outside the bios, a per-session boot.
[01:00] <ni291187> .
[01:00] <ni291187> ?
[01:00] <mrproper> wilee-nilee: What's the mini netload do? Basically PXE?
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> or just booting in general I never change the bios
[01:01] <Obi1> have usues on Ubuntu 12.04  the computer all of the suden run from 2% on quad core processor to 85 -100 only while in internet any ideas?
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> mrproper, Not a pxe just a tiny iso to boot and load the system from the web. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:02] <mrproper> wilee-nilee: Oh very nice. I'm content with that. I need a minimal install basically
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> has the advantage of many options of installs
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> servers to desktops
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> lock and load its sandyd-mobile-ds, l)
[01:03] <Obi1> try to use my Yahoo e-mail and was so crazy  never been like that and the loading got so slow
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[01:04] <sandyd-mobile-ds> Hey wilee-nilee
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> hey just ribbing yah
[01:04] <OldTexas> Obi1-   you using Firefox?
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> Obi1, Install htop and take a look
[01:06] <yigal> wilee-nilee: as expected no one has answered on winehq, however changing to the less enhanced uxa appears to be far more stable and allows for NetFlix to be played in non-full version mode which is a huge plus
[01:06] <yigal> wilee-nilee: so in general it's the fix it yourself ideology that wins out, but I'm fine with that :P
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> yigal, Cool, sounds like you can fix it basically, not an area I'm real familiar with.
[01:06] <Obi1> yes i did used it , but closed dowb and used EPI
[01:07] <Blendi> hello
[01:07] <Blendi> =D
[01:11] <Lacroix-> Alright anyone here around to help an old bastage?  :D
[01:12] <yigal> Lacroix-: I had know idea what you were talking about until http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bastage
[01:13] <yigal> Lacroix-: not, sure what help do you need?
[01:14] <Guest67440> a
[01:17] <Obi1> how to use the Htop app?
[01:17] <ineedweed> looking for weed in montreal pls msg me
[01:18] <Lacroix-> I have not ran any version of Linux since old school Red Hat in mid 90's so ubuntu says I can use a flash drive to install it on a system..
[01:18] <Lacroix-> So I have a flash drive and an older lap top that I am unsure of how to set up the iso on the flash drive to set up ubuntu
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> !ot | ineedweed stop that
[01:19] <dr_willis> Lacroix-:  tools at the pendrivelinux website can make a bootable usn
[01:19] <dr_willis> !install | Lacroix-
[01:19] <Obi1> UPS W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/htop/htop_1.0.1-1_i386.deb   Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> Obi1, what release, and what method used to get that error?
[01:20] <Lacroix-> ubottu, the laptop I want to install it on, the CD drive and has no network connection.. I want to try it out before I use it on my main system..
[01:20] <Obi1> i used synaptic
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> Obi1, htop is in the repos
[01:20] <Obi1> i run 12.04
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> Obi1, Looks like you added a repo address.
[01:21] <dr_willis> Lacroix-:  pendruvelunux site has tools to make a live usn you can boot and test out
[01:21] <Lacroix-> boot and test out?  as in an emulator?
[01:22] <dr_willis> no.. as in booting the usb
[01:22] <phillw> hi could someone take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6046266/ and explain why the CPU usage is so high? It's got me totally beaten.
[01:22] <Obi1> what do you mean wilee?
[01:22] <dr_willis> or make a bootable cd/dvd
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> Obi1, sudo apt-get install htop in the terminal
[01:22] <Obi1> ok will do
[01:23] <Lacroix-> the older lap top I'm looking to make a linux box out of, it appears the cd/dvd drive isnt functioning.. that Is why I'm trying to put the ISO on a flashdrive to set it up
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> Obi1, Then just htop in the terminal
[01:23] <Obi1>  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:23] <Obi1> message from terminal
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> Obi1, close synaptic
[01:24] <dr_willis> Lacroix-:  so again. use one of the dozen tools out ther to make a bootable usb flash drive
[01:24] <Obi1> ok retried again terminal
[01:24] <Lacroix-> So downloading the iso from the ubuntu website was a waste of time?
[01:24] <dr_willis> Lacroix-:  ubuntu website has one. pendrivelinux website has others
[01:24] <nem> yeah
[01:25] <nem> 13 faILED for me today
[01:25] <nem> i used 12
[01:25] <kriskropd> does anyone have a ppa for the latest stable perl for ubuntu 13.04?
[01:25] <nem> and it works great
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> Obi1, You can only have one install method open basically.
[01:25] <FloodBot1> nem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:25] <dr_willis> you USE THE TOOL  to make a bootable usn WITH the iso
[01:25] <Obi1> got it
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[01:25] <Obi1> i see the htop working
[01:25] <SchrodingersScat> Lacroix-: not sure what you mean, the program to make the LiveUSB should ask you for what ISO you are using.
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> Obi1, You can scroll through it and use it to kill stuff and other options
[01:26] <ozzloy> kostkon, i'll try that
[01:26] <ozzloy> thanks
[01:26] <ozzloy> kostkon, unfortunately it's not happening right now
[01:26] <phillw> Lacroix-: using zsync to down load an ISO is never a waste of time. you need to install zsync 1st.
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> and find if something is running with a search Obi1
[01:26] <kostkon> ozzloy, :(
[01:26] <SchrodingersScat> phillw: tell me more
[01:27] <Obi1> nice app  thank you
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[01:27] <dr_willis> Run one of the many tools you get from the Pendrivelinux web site.. tell it what ISO to use... tell it what USB flash to use... let it do its thang
[01:27] <ozzloy> kostkon, i can make it happen though!
[01:27] <Diffyum> how would you guys make a file targeting linux and not windows?
[01:27] <kostkon> ozzloy, :P
[01:27] <phillw> SchrodingersScat: do a /j #lubuntu-offtopic
[01:27] <dr_willis> Diffyum:  how does a  'file' target an os?
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> Diffyum, Targeting?
[01:27] <Diffyum> makefile
[01:28] <Diffyum> how do i make make make it so
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> mmm cryptic posts yummy
[01:29] <dr_willis> i dont develop for windows. :) so i guess look for makefile examples that allreay do what you want and modify them
[01:29] <kriskropd> Diffyum: as fun as that line was to read, it might depend on how you are makign files. I'd guess you could ask a gcc support group
[01:29] <Diffyum> i am using make
[01:30] <Diffyum> ok imagine a line where something is checked if it is defined
[01:30] <Diffyum> i want not it to be defined. but there does seem to be a default linux define
[01:30] <kriskropd> Diffyum: what I'm saying is you probably won't get your answer here as that is a very specific subject that would have better luck being answered in #ubuntu-offtopic for all I know
[01:31] <dr_willis> or programming channels
[01:31] <dr_willis> or development channels
[01:32] <dr_willis> or make 2 make files.. one for each os. ;)
[01:32] <dr_willis> of course isent that what the ./configure scripts normally handle
[01:47] <Mace268> ls
[01:50] <Guest70664> Hi
[01:51] <RoDiMuS-X> How do I prevent Ubuntu from attempting to update a package, The issue is that the broadcom driver I am using is version 5 while its trying to update to version 6 which does not work with my wireless card.
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> RoDiMuS-X, You can lock it in synaptic
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> if you install synaptic
[01:53] <RoDiMuS-X> ok so once I install it just search the package and its pretty straight forward how to lock it?
[01:57] <RoDiMuS-X> I got it locked thanks wilee-nilee
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> RoDiMuS-X, no prob. ;)
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[02:04] <mixmastermeow> it feels good just being here
[02:04] <andygraybeal> :)
[02:05] <mixmastermeow> :D
[02:05] <mixmastermeow> im not even using ubuntu though
[02:05] <nimbiotics> Hello all. I was trying to remove openoffice and install libreoffice again but somewhere something went wrong and now I cannot install anything via apt-get nor synaptic., the former lets me know "you have held broken packages". what can I do to fix this?
[02:05] <mixmastermeow> sudo apt-get autoclean
[02:05] <mixmastermeow> sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:06] <mixmastermeow> jk i dont know, i just like typing
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> nimbiotics: wich ubuntu version?
[02:07] <RoDiMuS-X> sudo apt-get install -f did you try that nimbiotics
[02:08] <nimbiotics> RoDiMuS-X: ubuntu studio 13.04
[02:08] <RoDiMuS-X> ok did you try sudo apt-get install -f
[02:09] <RoDiMuS-X> if its not working, you might have to remove the broken package and reinstall it
[02:10] <nimbiotics> lotuspsychje, RoDiMuS-X: mixmastermeow's recommendations did the trick
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> !yay | nimbiotics
[02:10] <nimbiotics> mixmastermeow: Thanks a lot!!!
[02:10] <RoDiMuS-X> very cool
[02:11] <nimbiotics> i thought i had already tried that though, but whatever, it worked!
[02:11] <nimbiotics> thanks to all of you!
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> nimbiotics: come again if you need something
[02:12] <ozzloy> i'm trying to bring my bluetooth back up without rebooting.  i just woke from suspend and now bt is not coming up.  i've tried rfkill unblock, hciconfig hci0 reset and service bluetooth restart to no avail.  what do?  what log can i check for clues?
[02:12] <nimbiotics> well ... i can stay now ... I NEED $2500, but I think this is a no lol zone
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth | ozzloy
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> nimbiotics: you never know ubuntu got packages to save money :p
[02:14] <ozzloy> lotuspsychje, hcitool says there are no devices at all
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: your drivers are installed correctly mate?
[02:15] <nimbiotics> well,  you can say that twice ... I work for a magazine editor who has spent THOUSAND$$$$ ON macs and adobe software and we are making the transition to open source now
[02:15] <ozzloy> perhaps?  bluetooth used to work
[02:15] <ozzloy> it works after rebooting
[02:15] <ozzloy> but not after waking from suspend
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: ah ic, chipset and ubuntu version?
[02:16] <ozzloy> 12.04 and idk
[02:16] <ozzloy> lenovo x1
[02:16] <ozzloy> i probably can't find out without rebooting, since the device doesn't even show right now
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: maybe this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1387211
[02:17] <ozzloy> i've tried sudo service bluetooth restart
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: im seeing alot of bugs on this issue
[02:18] <ozzloy> which is the newer version of /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart suggested in that thread
[02:18] <ozzloy> thanks for looking into it
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: you got any syslog.1 errors maybe that can help solve?
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: or do a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 and mess around a bit with bluetooth
[02:23] <ozzloy> nothing since about 12 hours ago
[02:23] <ozzloy> even when i mess with bluetooth via hcitool and hciconfig
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: your startup items show bluetooth service?
[02:23] <ozzloy> doing restarts
[02:23] <ozzloy> my startup items?
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: yes, services that start togheter with your computer
[02:25] <ozzloy> i'll check
[02:26] <ozzloy> nope
[02:26] <ozzloy> nothing in my personal ones
[02:26] <ozzloy> maybe something in /etc/init*
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: maybe this trick might work: http://www.serkey.com/ubuntu-bluetooth-disabled-on-resume-from-suspend-hibernate-bc5q4u.html
[02:29] <ozzloy> i've tried sudo service bluetooth stop / restart
[02:30] <ozzloy> though i haven't tried stop _before_ suspending, then restart after
[02:30] <ozzloy> bluetooth service is running
[02:30] <ozzloy> the device just isn't seen
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: thats odd indeed
[02:31] <ozzloy> perhaps that trick will work?  maybe if the service is disabled, the device will survive the suspending?
[02:31] <ozzloy> here goes!
[02:31] <abu> hello
[02:33] <operatorplik> hi every body
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: i also read 12.04 got a hibernation re-enable trick, not sure if this matches your issue
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> welcome
[02:34] <ozzloy> lotuspsychje, we'll see.  rebooting to bring the device back, then i'll try suspend/resume
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: good luck mate!
[02:39] <ozzloy> lotuspsychje, that apears to have worked
[02:39] <ozzloy> \o/
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ozzloy
[02:39] <ozzloy> i sure would like to know _why_
[02:39] <nurow> Question.. is there any way to replace the RythmBox Widget under sound with one from VLC?
[02:39] <ozzloy> idk *what* is going on here
[02:40] <ozzloy> nurow, are you channeling that guy from the office?
[02:40] <ozzloy> with the "Question.."
[02:41] <user> Hello.
[02:41] <user> hello.
[02:41] <ozzloy> lotuspsychje, thanks, btw
[02:41] <ozzloy> user, hi!
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> ozzloy: no sweat mate :p
[02:41] <trism> nurow: maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/40107/is-there-a-way-to-control-vlc-from-the-sound-menu
[02:43] <ncp> how do i get notified about degraded/failed disk when i'm running hardware raid? will ubuntu "notice" auto. and send root mail?
[02:44] <trism> nurow: seems to have moved though, in the version in 13.04 it is on Interface/Control Interface, not a separate dbus menu, seems to work
[02:45] <nurow> ozzloy, lol, which guy?
[02:46] <ozzloy> possibly this is just the american version, but dwight
[02:46] <ozzloy> he precedes his questions with "Question."
[02:46] <ozzloy> https://archive.foolzashit.com/foolfuuka/boards/o/image/1368/06/1368063693512.jpg
[02:48] <Diffyum> /usr/include/GL/gl.h:2085:22: fatal error: GL/glext.h: No such file or directory
[02:48] <Diffyum> that makes no sense at all
[02:48] <nurow> D-Bus Control interface, right trism?
[02:48] <honestly> ozzloy: as we all should
[02:48] <RedefinedClank> hello! I am having a weird scrolling issue
[02:48] <nurow> ozzloy, I am not Dwight! *crosses arms*
[02:48] <honestly> that's why "interrogative" is a proword in voice radio procedure
[02:49] <trism> nurow: yep
[02:50] <nurow> thanks trism. Nopw how do I remove the rythm box one?
[02:51] <nurow> actually... i'll just uninstall rythmbox
[02:55] <toil> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with ecryptfs, and I'm trying to set up sshd without passwords, but it only works when a current session is in place.. For example, I can ssh in, in one tab, and it'll ask me for a password, and then let me in(after correct password), and then I leave that session open, and ssh in again, in another tab, and it'll work. But if I close the original connection and don't do the second connection, it'll ask for 
[02:55] <toil> Disabling passwords and only allowing private keys locks me out of the system, aswell.
[02:55] <toil> I think it's to do with the ecryptfs.. Does anybody know a work-around or something for it?
[02:57] <ozzloy> nurow, no, of course not
[02:57] <ozzloy> nurow, merely channeling him
[03:00] <toil> found an answer.. http://rohieb.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/84/
[03:05] <zxcvbs> hi is there any way to install libraries and applications per userspace?
[03:17] <Diffyum> how do i make my programs not build for windows and only for linux
[03:17] <Diffyum> plz tell
[03:19] <cfhowlett> !contribute|Diffyum,
[03:19] <cfhowlett> Diffyum, maybe you want to ask in #linux
[03:21] <Diffyum> please
[03:21] <Diffyum> turn of mingw
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Diffyum, what is your native language??
[03:21] <Diffyum> TURN OFF MINGW. PLZ. I try so hard.
[03:21] <Diffyum> i use C++
[03:22] <cfhowlett> Diffyum, this is NOT a programming forum.  ask in c++
[03:26] <abu> hellow hmid
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> So In 12.04 I ran the ennoblement stack to quantal and then raring (64bit) and evrything is good, except that with the quiet spash in the grub I get a black screen, without it boots to the de fine, seems like I need a reset of this, not sure really.
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> enablement
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> The graphic info is  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[03:39] <MouseTheLuckyDog> I've got a weird ( binary ) character in a filename. How can I show a hex version of the filename to see what it is?
[03:40] <Moonk__> test
[03:42] <MouseTheLuckyDog> Moonk__, what?
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> fixed it with the intel open source graphic drivers app, brought the 3.8 kernel from the enablement in 12.04 up to date.  Just info for anyone reading this post set.
[03:51] <Monday> will 13.10 require people to set an email and name when installing Ubuntu for Ubuntu One just like how people need an email to install and use Google Android?
[03:55] <IdleOne> Monday: No, and this is not the correct channel to discuss 13.10. Use #ubuntu+1 for that.
[03:56] <Monday> here IdleOne  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/ubuntu-one-log-in-added-to-ubuntu-13-10-installer
[03:56] <IdleOne> Monday: still not the right channel
[03:58] <IdleOne> but just to answer your question and put an end to the possible spreading of FUD. Notice how there is a button to log in later? That means that it is not required for you to do it at install.
[03:58] <seventhsamuari> is there way to make changes to my boot loader other than using the terminal?
[03:59] <dr_willis> theres sime grub config guis out there seventhsamuari
[04:00] <dr_willis> but its best to learn the terminal
[04:01] <seventhsamuari> thank dr_willis. I have some terminal knowledge but i havent messed with linux since mandrake...this is my first unbuntu install
[04:01] <dr_willis> ! grub
[04:06] <RPG-Master> How might I go about forcing Java to use Pulseaudio instead of ALSA?
[04:06] <RPG-Master> Minecraft has no sound, unless I kill Pulseaudio.
[04:06] <RPG-Master> Then poof, sound is back.
[04:07] <sethj> Wait.. no sound unless you kill pulseaudio? But you want Java to use it?
[04:08] <Silver_Arrow> RPG-Master: what java are you running minecraft with?
[04:08] <dr_willis> first ive seen this issue mentioned.
[04:09] <Silver_Arrow> I recomend Open-JDK 6
[04:09] <RPG-Master> Open-JDK 7...
[04:10] <Silver_Arrow> 7 didn't have the sound issue for me, but it didn't run as well
[04:10] <sethj> What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:11] <RPG-Master> 13.04
[04:11] <Silver_Arrow> Ah, I'm on quantal
[04:12] <Silver_Arrow> and using xubuntu
[04:12] <MentalFreedom> Hello peop-s
[04:12] <grahamsavage> i'm finding ubuntu is extremly buggy. I'm using 12.04 LTS 64bit and i experience on a daily basis.. standard applications crashing and won't even open (ubuntu software center), problems with screen resolutions, the System Settings page crashing regularly
[04:13] <grahamsavage> is this to be expected from the basic OS?    i'm new to ubuntu desktop but i've been using ubuntu server for about 6 years which in comparison seems incredibly stable
[04:14] <dr_willis> grahamsavage:  ive rarely seen people with those issues in here.
[04:14] <sethj> grahamsavage, it probably has to do with your hardware.. What graphics card do you have and did you install any drivers for it?
[04:15] <grahamsavage> sethj: i haven't installed any custom drivers for the graphics card
[04:15] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, atypical behavior suggests something other than the OS could be in play
[04:15] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: ok
[04:15] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, did you MD5sum check the ISO?
[04:15] <grahamsavage> sethj: trying to find out what it is.. it's onboard
[04:15] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: yeah
[04:16] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, oh, and is this a dual boot, single boot or wubi install?
[04:16] <elton_> if i buy a laptop with touch screen will ubuntu run on it?
[04:16] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: single boot system, 256gb SSD, 32gb ram, I5 3770
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !touch|elton_,
[04:16] <sethj> Not that touch
[04:17] <sethj> grahamsvage Try lspci | grep VGA
[04:17] <grahamsavage> ok the mboard (with onboard graphics is a ASUS P8 Z77-V LE PLUS
[04:17] <sethj> *grahamsavage
[04:17] <grahamsavage> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[04:17] <dr_willis> elton_:  a normal laptop should work.  if the touchscreen works may be tricker
[04:18] <elton_> ic
[04:18] <grahamsavage> sethj: more info.. i have a huge number of problems with google chrome (painting tabs really slowly) freezing constantly.. i don't know if these are related to the OS issues
[04:18] <sethj> grahamsavage is this a custom built (desktop)?
[04:18] <grahamsavage> yeah desktop
[04:19] <grahamsavage> but all good hardware, good ram, good SSD etc
[04:19] <ziadingo> hi, how show battery percentage on top menu. I am using ubuntu 13.0
[04:19] <ziadingo> *13.04
[04:20] <lubuntu_> need help connect to my wireless printer..
[04:20] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, sounds like a standard set up.  did you verify integrity check of your boot media?  not the md5sum, boot and then run the check - preferably before install  :)
[04:20] <grahamsavage> just of the iso after i downloaded it
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !details|lubuntu_,
[04:20] <grahamsavage> and then i installed off of USB stick
[04:21] <sethj> grahamsavage, what happens if you run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[04:21] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, right.  there's an option to verify the disk.  bad burns happen to good people, so it's advisable to take the 50 seconds to verify
[04:21] <lubuntu_> im running lubuntu 13.XX
[04:21] <dr_willis> ziadingo:  one way would be to check into the various indicator-applets listed at askubuntu.com one of them most likely can do it. but i THOUGHT  ubuntus power settings showed such an icon  by default when on battery. but there may  be some bugs not showing it
[04:22] <grahamsavage> sethj: unmet dependencies:  xorg-video-abi-11  xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.10.99.901)
[04:22] <sethj> Eh oh >.<
[04:22] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett,: ok i'll remember that in future :D
[04:22] <lubuntu_> running epson work force 635
[04:22] <sethj> Been tinkering?
[04:22] <grahamsavage> sethj: who me? erm i hope not
[04:23] <dr_willis> lubuntu_:  so what have you done so far to configure the printer?
[04:23] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, try this from terminal; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    will bring all packages current
[04:23] <grahamsavage> ok
[04:23] <sethj> grahamsavage, well the drivers aren't installed and they should come default.. so *something* happened ;)
[04:23] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, note any error messages
[04:24] <lubuntu_> i got my printer connected to my wireless network..now how do i connect to my printer
[04:24] <grahamsavage> ok.. i've documented my entire install procedure.. i've installed many things like postgresql and other development related stuff
[04:24] <dr_willis> lubuntu_:  via the printer config thing in system-settings normally...
[04:24] <grahamsavage> but it's all pretty standard, nothing to do wtih graphics cards etc
[04:24] <grahamsavage> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6f036ddcf850646145f9 << that's the full output
[04:25] <dr_willis> lubuntu_:  or the cups web interface   http://localhost:631
[04:25] <cfhowlett> lubuntu_, system settings > printers > add printer
[04:25] <grahamsavage> will dist-upgrade move me away from 12.04?
[04:25] <sethj> grahamsavage, no
[04:25] <dr_willis> grahamsavage:  no it wont
[04:25] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, it will not.  it'll upgrade you to 12.4.3
[04:25] <cfhowlett> current
[04:25] <grahamsavage> oh nice :D
[04:25] <sethj> that would be do-release-upgrade
[04:26] <lubuntu_> i try to enter the IP to connect but nothing
[04:26] <dr_willis> lubuntu_:  the cups web interface has a 'scan'  feature.
[04:26] <dr_willis> and some guides/docs on using cups..
[04:27] <dr_willis> !cups
[04:27] <xmetal> hello everyone
[04:27] <MentalFreedom> hi
[04:27] <grahamsavage> ok i think the download will take a very long time :)
[04:27] <grahamsavage> maybe hours
[04:27] <xmetal> backing a few drive images up at the moment
[04:28] <sethj> grahamsavage, have you been updating regularly?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, are you on a slow connection or something?  12.04 to 12.04.3 shouldn't take more than a few minutes ...
[04:29] <grahamsavage> yeah, every few weeks
[04:29] <grahamsavage> but my internet is very slow
[04:29] <grahamsavage> i'm only getting about 100kbs
[04:29] <sethj> grahamsavage, ah OK.. BTW, how have you been upgrading?
[04:29] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: VERY slow
[04:29] <sethj> terminal? update manager?
[04:29] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: China to Dallas VPN to rest of world
[04:30] <grahamsavage> apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[04:30] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, so you haven't been upgrading, right?  I'm in Beijing.  Gotta do regular maintenance.  No need for VPN on Ubuntu?  Set your mirrors to China local and get r done!
[04:30] <grahamsavage> i've never done the dist-upgrade before though
[04:30] <Ben66> grahamsavage: i'd suggest staying on 12.04, its supported until 2017
[04:31] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, the 12.4.3 is a point release, NOT a whole OS upgrade.
[04:31] <grahamsavage> Ben66: cool
[04:31] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett,: oh right
[04:31] <GH0> I must not understand ddrescue, because as or right now, it says that it copied data to the cloned drive, but nothing appears to be working correctly with that cloned drive.
[04:31] <sethj> grahamsavage, that's part of your problem. You need to use dist-upgrade more often
[04:31] <GH0> So.... what the hell do I do?
[04:31] <sethj> especially if you don't ever use the update manager
[04:32] <grahamsavage_> cfhowlett: how do you set them to the chinese mirrors?
[04:32] <sethj> grahamsavage see http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade
[04:32] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, software center settings >>> software sources
[04:32] <dr_willis> GH0:  what ddrescue command did you use?
[04:32] <grahamsavage_> cfhowlett: i'm not able to open the software center, it just crashes
[04:33] <sethj> Anyway, seems cfhowlett has got you covered. ga night.
[04:33] <grahamsavage_> sethj: thankyou for your help :D
[04:35] <grahamsavage_> is there a way to update the command line to use the chinese mirrors?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, yeah wait one ...
[04:37] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_, okay, you'll need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:38] <arunkumar413> Hi, i
[04:38] <grahamsavage_> cfhowlett,: change US to CN?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_, in front of every entry you'll need to add cn.   for china
[04:39] <arunkumar413> hi, i'm on 13.10. plz help me to install mir desktop
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+!|arunkumar413,
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|arunkumar413,
[04:39] <grahamsavage_> cfhowlett: what about for security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and extras.ubuntu.com?
[04:40] <xtriz> i have installed cinnamon but there is some lag, how can i remove or correct it ?
[04:40] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_, substitute .cn for .us
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> grahamsavage_, you can generate a list for your country with this site and replace the sources.list  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[04:40] <grahamsavage_> ohh nice :D
[04:41] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_, yes that tool or sub all .us with .cn
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> grahamsavage_, Follow cfhowlett make sure they feel good with this. ;)
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> xtriz, What release are you running?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_, easy way?  rename the sources.list to BACKUPsources.list  open that file in writer, find/replace and save as unformatted text.  of course
[04:42] <xtriz> wilee-nilee, 1.8
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> xtriz, Ubuntu release, and how did you load cinnamon?
[04:43] <xtriz> 13.04 and loaded cinnamon from the login screen change the session to cinnamon.
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> xtriz, Did you install cinnamon without adding a PPA, in other words from the ubuntu repos?
[04:44] <xtriz> i added cinnamon using a PPA not from the ubuntu repos, because ubuntu repos has version 1.6
[04:45] <grahamsavage_> haha now that's fast :D
[04:45] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_, eh?
[04:46] <grahamsavage_> yeah i'm getting 1mb/s
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> xtriz, Ah, well PPA's are not supported here, I found for the 5 min I tried cinnamon in 13.04 it ran fine, if you want it you might run ppa-purge and install 1.6 jsu to test it, newest does not mean best especially with a ppa.
[04:46] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_, if you're in BJ you can buy me a beer ...
[04:47] <xtriz> wilee-nilee, ok let me try 1.6 and check out the results.
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> xtriz, Otherwise a remove is sudo apt-get remove cinnamon and remove the ppa, I would consider the ppa-purge though
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> ! ppa-purge | xtriz
[04:47] <grahamsavage_> sure :D  pm me your wexin
[04:47] <grahamsavage_> weixin
[04:48] <xtriz> wilee-nilee, thanks for making things handy :)
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> xtriz, No problem. ;)
[04:49] <xtriz> :)
[04:49] <arunkumar413> #ubuntu +1
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, /j #ubuntu+1
[04:50] <mrmowgli> Anyone know why I don't see created time anywhere? ls -alh just shows modified time, same with the 'Files' application in 13.04
[04:50] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_, once upgraded don't forget to use your VPN only as needed for firewall blocked stuff YT, twitter, FB. I don't even use vpn BUT I found out that the USA embassy multimedia room offers free wifi without great firewall!
[04:55] <mrmowgli> ok fine then the better question, why aren't I seeing any updates in 13.04???
[04:55] <mrmowgli> It's been three weeks
[04:55] <mrmowgli> Seems very unnatural
[04:55] <cfhowlett> mrmowgli, check your repo settings
[04:56] <mrmowgli> cfhowlett: is there a specific thing I should look for?
[04:56] <cfhowlett> mrmowgli, for one, make sure security updates are enabled.
[05:00] <mrmowgli> cfhowlett: when I do an update all the repos look like they come down including the security
[05:01] <mrmowgli> cfhowlett: like: Hit http://security.ubuntu.com raring-security/main amd64 Packages
[05:01] <cfhowlett> mrmowgli, OK.  if nothing comes down then .... you're all caught up!  but you might run from terminal to verify.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will bring all packages current
[05:02] <mrmowgli> cfhowlett: that's what I've been doing manually
[05:02] <mrmowgli> That's why it feels weird'
[05:05] <cfhowlett> mrmowgli, could be you're all caught up and nothing to grab.
[05:06] <NeonSpeed> Anybody familiar with Ubuntu 13.04?
[05:06] <cfhowlett> NeonSpeed, yes.
[05:06] <dr_willis> !ask
[05:07] <NeonSpeed> cfhowlett, I'm looking for a cpu temp applet for my desktop?
[05:07] <dr_willis> NeonSpeed:   conky can do that
[05:08] <dr_willis> theres indicator-applets also
[05:09] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/conky-manager-gui-for-managing-conky.html
[05:09] <NeonSpeed> dr_willis, downloading now thanks!
[05:09] <dr_willis> conky manager is handy.
[05:10] <c0d37ar> NeonSpeed: here you go : http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/panel-indicators-collection-for-ubuntu.html
[05:11] <NeonSpeed> dr_willis, Downloaded, how do I activate it on my desktop? Sorry it's been awhile since I've been on linux.
[05:11] <dr_willis> see the conky manager i posted?   ;-)
[05:11] <dr_willis> makes it easy
[05:12] <zxf> Hello everyone!
[05:12] <NeonSpeed> dr_willis, Ah sorry I missed that, looking into it now.
[05:12] <NeonSpeed> dr_willis, You have been around here for a looooong time I remember you from waaaaay back!
[05:13] <dr_willis> im old with no social life.   :-)
[05:13] <zxf> x_x
[05:14] <NeonSpeed> You probably don't remember me but I used to come in here under InsaneNprouD
[05:15] <dr_willis> i can barely  remember my own  name.  :-\
[05:16] <NeonSpeed> Lol well it's been a couple years since I've been in here so I didn't think you would remember me.
[05:20] <NeonSpeed> c0d37ar, I'm trying the one you gave me a link to and I got it installed but not sure how I turn it on?
[05:20] <c0d37ar> NeonSpeed: may be login again your pc
[05:20] <NeonSpeed> Okay brb
[05:20] <c0d37ar> NeonSpeed: im not on linux now...but try to login
[05:25] <NeonSpeed> c0d37ar, No luck, I'll try a couple other things to get it working though
[05:36] <NeonSpeed> Got it working, thanks guys!!!!
[05:37] <NeonSpeed> Is it normal for cpu to run a little hotter in Ubuntu compared to Windows?
[05:44] <clong> I have a question about MAAS & Juju on ubuntu 13.0.4 vs 12.0.4. Which version of Ubuntu does it actually install on with the least amount of issues?
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> clong, That would be a personal opinion you tell us. ;)
[05:46] <cfhowlett> clong, .0167 degrees of variance is normal.
[05:47] <clong> No, That is a question I'm asking. I'm having issues getting it to work on 13.0.4 and was wondering if they cooperate without the issues on 12.0.4.3
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> clong, Yes it is but a invalid one as all you will get are opinions
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> that have no validity
[05:48] <kaboom12> i did rm -r * in the home, (i know very stupid of me) is there any way to retrieve data?
[05:49] <clong> I was hoping I might actually find people on this channel who may have actual experience.
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> What is the definition of "least amount of issues"?
[05:49] <kunai> No, you cannot retrieve data that you used rm on.
[05:49] <kunai> Do not enter any commands into a shell unless you know EXACTLY what they do to your system.
[05:50] <clong> I can't successfully bootstrap a node with "juju bootstrap"
[05:50] <kunai> Sorry about that. Just be careful next time around
[05:52] <grahamsavage> hey i'm getting a huge number of hash sum mismatches?
[05:52] <cfhowlett> kaboom12, grahamsavage on what?
[05:52] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, on what?
[05:52] <grahamsavage> apt-get update
[05:53] <grahamsavage> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6396446
[05:53] <kaboom12> cfhowlett: i managed to do sudo rm -r *, any way to get data back?
[05:53] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, this is with the new mirror setings
[05:53] <grahamsavage> yeah
[05:53] <kaboom12> i wouldn't have cared but there were alot of important files as well hence
[05:53] <cfhowlett> kaboom12, nope.  sorry, cap'n, but the data, she is gone.
[05:54] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: surely you can just run data recover tools
[05:54] <grahamsavage> it doesn't 0 the data?
[05:54] <kaboom12> cfhowlett: there must be someway man, linux has been around for ages.
[05:54] <grahamsavage> i've formatted drives before and retrieved all the data off of them
[05:54] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, line 14 of that image suggests there's a malformed file.
[05:54] <xmetal> i agree .. its a really bad idea to enter commands in a shell without at least having an idea of what it does
[05:55] <cfhowlett> anyone with a way to recover rm -r please help kaboom.
[05:56] <kaboom12> kunai: i know what it does, i was just trying fakeroot.
[05:56] <grahamsavage> kaboom12: try ddrescue
[05:56] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, i've had that as well.  for a day or 2, all my hashes were scrambled but the next day, they just worked again...
[05:56] <grahamsavage> weird
[05:56] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, yeah.
[05:56] <grahamsavage> are the chinese mirrors secure?
[05:56] <grahamsavage> i.e. from the gov
[05:56] <kaboom12> grahamsavage: let me see
[05:56] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, no more or less than the other mirrors ...
[05:57] <kaboom12> grahamsavage: apt-cache found gddrescue, i guess same thing? grahamsavage
[05:57] <Xavier89> HOLA
[05:57] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, my understanding is that local mirrors are still set to verify against the main repo at canonical ...
[05:57] <grahamsavage> oh sweet :D
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Xavier89, greetings
[05:57] <grahamsavage> ok.. good
[05:58] <grahamsavage> i worry about having "special code" turn up on my dev servers
[06:02] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, you or your servers are in China.  Assume that in some way, shape or form, the government can monitor.  I don't know about actually injecting code, though.
[06:02] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: hmm how
[06:02] <grahamsavage> traffic goes out via a vpn
[06:02] <grahamsavage> everything is encrypted
[06:02] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, trust me, the gov knows all about that vpn...
[06:03] <grahamsavage> yeah but they don't know what's going through it :)
[06:03] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, so your VPN provider claims ...
[06:03] <grahamsavage> i am the VPN provider
[06:03] <grahamsavage> :D
[06:03] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, ah, well know! an expert!
[06:03] <xmetal> call me paranoid but i feel the govern can get to anything if it wanted to
[06:03] <cfhowlett> I had no idea
[06:04] <cfhowlett> xmetal, just cuz you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you ...
[06:04] <xmetal> exactly
[06:04] <grahamsavage> lol.. nah it's easy you just start up a service on amazon aws and install openvpn.. although i have had more like with pptp recently
[06:04] <xmetal> good quote
[06:04] <grahamsavage> xmetal: depends how mental you are
[06:04] <cfhowlett> xmetal, got that one from dear old dad.
[06:05] <xmetal>  i saw that on NCIS once
[06:05] <xmetal> (that quote)
[06:05] <grahamsavage> who's that russian security chick
[06:06] <Forevernade> hello, im setting up a computer i just bought, and my mobo only seems to have 2 slots for chassis fans
[06:06] <grahamsavage>  http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2009/10/evil-maid-goes-after-truecrypt.html << oh yeah this one
[06:06] <Forevernade> i was wondering if i could use the speaker header to power another fan?
[06:06] <grahamsavage> they've got a special vm version of linux which looks pretty awesome
[06:07] <xmetal> if your taking about who i think you are A) thats Massad (i just set off some NSA filter probably :P) and B) its Ziva David ("Da-vid")
[06:07] <xmetal> vm version?
[06:08] <grahamsavage> xmetal: every app gets sandboxed in a vm
[06:09] <grahamsavage> so to get exploited they have to break out of entire vm.. which is probably next to impossible
[06:10] <grahamsavage> xmetal: http://qubes-os.org/trac
[06:10] <mangesh> I'm looking for a multiplayer kart racing game, is this the right place to ask?
[06:12] <walltender> Hi, I have a lost my docx files contents twice on Libreoffice.l
[06:12] <cfhowlett> mangesh, tuxcart
[06:12] <cfhowlett> walltender, use the windows 2007 - 2010 settings.
[06:13] <walltender> I saved the file, not closing libreoffice writer, just shut down my laptop. Half of the contents are mysteriously gone.
[06:13] <cfhowlett> walltender, not an ubuntu problem ... libre office hasn't quite mastered the hack of the most recent windows document format
[06:13] <mangesh> you mean supertuxkart?
[06:13] <cfhowlett> walltender,  try saving to a different location ... usb stick perhaps
[06:14] <mangesh> thats not exactly multiplayer
[06:14] <cfhowlett> mangesh, yeah that's the one
[06:14] <cfhowlett> mangesh, ah,  sorry.
[06:14] <walltender> cfhowlett: Is there a way to retrieve the contents. I am desperately need them. the .bak file shows in the same.
[06:15] <cfhowlett> walltender, you could try looking in the libreoffice settings to see if there are any alternative saves/locations
[06:15] <ndyakov> hello, can anyone reproduce this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/1181495
[06:16] <mangesh> you have to share your keyboard and screen for supertuxkart
[06:17] <walltender> cfhowlett: I only know the backup location, which shows the same shit.
[06:19] <helmut_> hi
[06:19] <Xavier89> hi
[06:20] <mangesh> multiplayer kart racing game for LAN party? anyone?
[06:20] <XMzhou> hi all
[06:21] <cfhowlett> walltender, don't know what to tell you.  sorry.
[06:21] <cfhowlett> XMzhou, greetings
[06:22] <aeon-ltd> mangesh: #ubuntu-offtopic will know
[06:22] <mctaztik> Hello, I have ubuntu running on an OVH dedicated machine, I am trying to install the linux-image-extra using apt-get install linux-image-extra-`uname -r` but get the error:  Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-3.10.9-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64
[06:22] <mangesh> okay
[06:23] <Gnea> mangesh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/NativeFreeUbuntuGames
[06:23] <Gnea> oddly enough, it's not offtopic :-)
[06:24] <XMzhou> :)
[06:26] <Gnea> mctaztik: so you should do the following to find the correct name of the package: apt-cache search linux-image-extra
[06:27] <bazhang> mctaztik, tried to tab complete it?
[06:28] <mctaztik> Gnea: Ok, will try that, thank you :)
[06:32] <NeonSpeed> Is there something I am missing or does Ubuntu 13.04 have extremely slow download speeds?
[06:34] <dr_willis> mangesh:  tuxcart
[06:35] <mangesh> thats not playable on LAN
[06:35] <dr_willis> NeonSpeed:  not for me.
[06:35] <mangesh> :(
[06:35] <dr_willis> tuxcart was lan playable last i looked
[06:36] <map> NeonSpeed,  downloading in general?
[06:36] <cfhowlett> NeonSpeed, use torrents
[06:37] <map> id test his connection using a mirror
[06:37] <mangesh> wait
[06:37] <mangesh> supertuxkart or tuxkart?
[06:37] <daftykins> everything's better with super
[06:38] <NeonSpeed> map, Yeah my speed test shows 69mbps but when I download on the web or in the software center it is incredibly slow
[06:38] <cfhowlett> NeonSpeed, did you localize your mirrors?
[06:38] <map> ya try a diff mirror
[06:38] <NeonSpeed> cfhowlett, How do I go about doing that?
[06:38] <dr_willis> slow servers are slow.  ;-)
[06:39] <map> select a murror nearest your location dude
[06:39] <cfhowlett> NeonSpeed, software center > settings > software sources
[06:39] <Douug> hello all, anyone know of a good guide for ubuntu MS Exchange replacement?
[06:39] <NeonSpeed> cfhowlett, I'm not referring to download the actual OS I'm talking about programs on the web and programs from the software center
[06:40] <map> Douug, you mean for running email svr?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> NeonSpeed, all software downloads go through the assigned mirror.  if you're in China, as I am, you wouldn't use the London settings, would you?  take 30 seconds to check ...
[06:40] <Douug> yes, basically replacing MS Exchange
[06:40] <map> hmm yea i read oine before
[06:40] <map> moment
[06:41] <Douug> i have tried the Samba4 , Sogo and OpenChange solution from Google but Outlook hangs on loading profile and Samba4 crashes
[06:44] <NeonSpeed> Lets see if it helped
[06:45] <map> http://www.pixelinx.com/2010/10/creating-a-mail-server-on-ubuntu-using-postfix-courier-ssltls-spamassassin-clamav-and-amavis/
[06:45] <map> NeonSpeed,  i setuip clamav/postfix/squirrel before but not sure if thatd do for your needs?
[06:48] <ese> hi, i think i lost my sound system when i installed pulseaudio :(
[06:50] <NeonSpeed> What temp should I be worried for my cpu?
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: that kinda depends on what the idle and average temps are for your cpu, but anything outrageous and persistent should be of concern
[06:52] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, At idle usually it's around 150F when I'm doing stuff it will get up to 174F but usually that's with several things going
[06:54] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: 174f is pretty high, but this is a desktop right?
[06:55] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, No this is on my laptop
[06:57] <NeonSpeed> Right now with a couple tabs in Opera open System Settings and Software Center I'm sitting around 147-155F
[06:57] <NeonSpeed> And XChat obviously
[06:58] <Johnny_Linux> might wanna try jupiter and set it to power on demand
[06:58] <Johnny_Linux> google jupiter applet
[06:59] <NeonSpeed> Johnny_Linux, Gonna give that a try, I'll let you know if it helps or not.
[07:00] <Johnny_Linux> plus, buy a can of air and keep the vents clean
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> NeonSpeed, You installed lm-sensors?
[07:01] <NeonSpeed> Johnny_Linux, Yeah I clean the vents pretty often
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> development for the google jupiter applet stopped in 2012
[07:02] <Johnny_Linux> also, you can put feet on the bottom, itl raise it about an inch which will let the fan run free
[07:02] <NeonSpeed> wilee-nilee, Yeah I'm using Hardware Sensor Indicator right now
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> NeonSpeed, they do at times give wrong temperatures, is it blowing hot air and the fans running all the time?
[07:03] <dr_willis> stick it in the freezer. ;-)
[07:04] <xmetal> and grab some ice cream while your doing that
[07:04] <xmetal> :P
[07:04] <NeonSpeed> wilee-nilee, Right now it's at 145F and the air coming out isn't hot, just warm, and the fan is running but it's running on it slower speed right now
[07:05] <dr_willis> honey.. whats this cable coming from the freezer for? and who ate the rocky road?
[07:06] <xmetal> lol
[07:07] <NeonSpeed> Lol "sorry babe had to eat it to make room for the laptop"
[07:09] <NeonSpeed> Uh oh something wrong with my Software Center now
[07:11] <NeonSpeed> Can't download anything now :(
[07:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:12] <zimbo> i installed emacs24 via apt then tried to remove emacs23 via apt, which then installed emacs23-lucid, when trying to remove emacs23-lucid apt not wants to install emacs23-nox?
[07:12] <zimbo> i have no idea why
[07:13] <xmetal> thats it
[07:13] <xmetal> the rocky road broke freenode
[07:13] <xmetal> :P
[07:13] <zimbo> now wants to install emacs23-nox
[07:13] <zimbo> wtf
[07:15] <zimbo> i had to: apt-get remove emacs23 emacs23-lucid emacs23-nox - even though emacs23-nox and emacs23 aren't installed
[07:19] <raptor67682> hi
[07:19] <raptor67682> I look for a small linux computer for my kitchen, with a keyboard, to be handy to keep on irssi  and small ... would you know anything?
[07:20] <Ben66> you may want to ask in #linux or ##hardware or get a Raspberry Pi
[07:26] <bl4ckdu5t> I just installed lampp and I tried loading up some of my PHP projects in some folders  but I get blank results
[07:27] <xorox90> How can I change default interface wlan0 -> eth0?
[07:28] <Pvibere> hi all! Where I can find ubuntu lts (12.04) iso, but console only ? (without X, gui...) Thank for any hint! P. S.: I was googling, but without success.... ><
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> Pvibere, There is none use the server
[07:29] <Pvibere> wilee-nilee: thank yu!
[07:35] <NeonSpeed> I love you guys! Lol
[07:36] <raptor67682> I look for a small linux computer for my kitchen, with a keyboard, to be handy to keep on irssi  and small ... would you know anything?
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> raptor67682, very few computers come with linux.
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> raptor67682: as said before raspberry pi, you cannot get any smaller for the price
[07:39] <NeonSpeed> They may not come with linux but it can be installed on anything :)
[07:41] <raptor67682> the rasberry is delivered with or without power?
[07:41] <raptor67682> how much it costs=?
[07:41] <lhx> what kins of oweformance on the pi?
[07:41] <raptor67682> and cheaper? raspberry in germany cost 45 euros
[07:41] <aeon-ltd> raptor67682: you use a usb plug to power it, $35 iirc
[07:41] <NeonSpeed> Linux shows better performance with more ram than Windows, I notice no difference in Windows from 3gb ram to 8gb but I notice a huge difference in Linux with 8gb
[07:42] <raptor67682> oh really, but, on which port to power usb it?
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> raptor67682: $25 for the other model
[07:42] <lhx> bow fast is a pi? like a pc from 2000?
[07:42] <dr_willis> I like My  Pi's ;)
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> lhx: can't compare, it's arm not x86
[07:42] <raptor67682>   http://www.codeproject.com/KB/system/424615/RPi_ModelB.png
[07:43] <lhx> can it do video?
[07:43] <dr_willis> Pi can do more then a 13 yr old pc. :)
[07:43] <aeon-ltd> lhx: it can output video in 1080p
[07:43] <minimalist> lhx, yup
[07:43] <dr_willis> one of its MAIN selling points is it can do video
[07:43] <lhx> oj snap  .
[07:43] <lhx> i must learn
[07:43] <lhx> damn iphone kb
[07:43] <dr_willis> i run xbmc on my pi to wtch videos
[07:44] <NeonSpeed> What browser do you guys use?
[07:44] <minimalist> the problem with pi is that they are overbooked and out of stock
[07:44] <lhx> ahhhh
[07:44] <dr_willis> Plex on Ubuntu + that Plex-Pi = handy upnp server/clients
[07:44] <NeonSpeed> Been testing them all day to see which is faster and better, so far I'm liking Opera the best.
[07:44] <aeon-ltd> lhx: to use it though you need a 5v usb power source, usb keyboard, sd card, and preferably a ethernet connection
[07:44] <lhx> xbmc on mac here
[07:44] <dr_willis> theres dozens of mini arm based linux boxs out there
[07:44] <minimalist> i want something sub 25 $USD
[07:44] <lhx> is pi the best?
[07:45] <minimalist> and readily available
[07:45] <Johnny_Linux> http://linuxgizmos.com/
[07:45] <dr_willis> Below $25 is going to be hard to do
[07:45] <lhx> how about below 50
[07:45] <dr_willis> dozen of them out in thee $50 to $100 range
[07:45] <minimalist> 50 is expensive in the embedded domain
[07:45] <dr_willis> look on amazon
[07:46] <dr_willis> depends on the specs
[07:46] <NeonSpeed> Is there a browser that is better than Opera for Ubuntu?
[07:46] <lhx> recommendation? prefer debian or ibuntu
[07:46] <F014> Hi there .. I have a Digital Key analogy assignment , using Ubuntu, but my question to help finish this is : WHAT is the Art of lock-picking or Locks called ?
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> most of them are essentially smartphones but in plain board form
[07:46] <dr_willis> NeonSpeed:  most people dont use Opera theese days. it jus has sort of fallen off the radar
[07:46] <malkauns> NeonSpeed, chrome?
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> opera moved to webkit anyway, it will be nearly identical to chrome
[07:46] <malkauns> Opera has always been the underdog
[07:46] <malkauns> from day 1
[07:47] <NeonSpeed> malkauns, I use Chrome in windows and tried it in Ubuntu but so far Opera seems to be the fastest
[07:47] <dr_willis> opera on android is ok.but really not outstanding
[07:47] <malkauns> NeonSpeed, good for u :P
[07:47] <dr_willis> how are you benchmarking the  speeds? ;)
[07:48] <minimalist> NeonSpeed,  http://tutzone.org/increase-firefox-speed-by-10-30x/
[07:48] <NeonSpeed> dr_willis, Just going by experience based on loading times, I like the simple look of Opera too though
[07:48] <minimalist> it works ..
[07:48] <aeon-ltd> i highly doubt 30x
[07:49] <minimalist> about 10x really
[07:49] <dr_willis> preloading? ;)
[07:49] <minimalist> nope a lot of configs
[07:49] <minimalist> like nultiple connections
[07:49] <aeon-ltd> is it just making more requests and changing the request limit?
[07:49] <minimalist> ya kinda
[07:49] <aeon-ltd> also nglayout.initialpaint.delay
[07:50] <minimalist> alsao chaning some rendering settings
[07:50] <minimalist> yes
[07:50] <NeonSpeed> minimalist, I've done the config in Windows, it does work but I def wouldn't say 30x, 10x is more believable
[07:50] <aeon-ltd> i've done those and i'd say 10x is stretching it
[07:50] <minimalist> NeonSpeed, yup.
[07:50] <aeon-ltd> most of the time though it is better than stock
[07:51] <minimalist> which is the best lightweight capable browser?
[07:51] <minimalist> "capable"
[07:51] <clcto> minimalist: uzbl
[07:51] <aeon-ltd> if you like vim
[07:51] <dr_willis> define what capable means  to you. ;)
[07:52] <minimalist> capable means it should be able to do all the mundane stuff on the web.. flash etc included
[07:52] <aeon-ltd> minimalist: chrome/chromium?
[07:52] <minimalist> preferrably modular so i can switch off stuff i dont want at that moment
[07:52] <dr_willis> i tend to turn off flash on all the browsers..
[07:52] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:52] <NeonSpeed> I used to get crap all the time way back in the day cause I actually liked Netscape lol
[07:53] <F014> Hi there .. I have a Digital Key analogy assignment , using Ubuntu, but my question to help finish this is : WHAT is the Art of lock-picking or Locks called ?
[07:53] <minimalist> firefox is my default but it leaks memory like an old cauldron :P
[07:53] <NeonSpeed> dr_willis, How do you live without flash?
[07:53] <minimalist> yeah i used netscape a lot
[07:53] <minimalist> good old days
[07:54] <dr_willis> NeonSpeed:  i find i rarely  need it.
[07:54] <minimalist> flash sucks
[07:54] <NeonSpeed> dr_willis, Must not be a YouTube person huh?
[07:54] <dr_willis> you dont need flash for youtube. ;;)
[07:54] <minimalist> only for streaming videos
[07:54] <dr_willis> theres flash downloader extensions, and extensions tha tplay the flash videos in vlc or mplayer out there.
[07:54] <minimalist> i hipe its gonna be replaced by html5 soon
[07:54] <minimalist> *hope
[07:54] <dr_willis> so i dont even need it for streaming youtube videos
[07:55] <dr_willis> plus youtube has html5 ssupport for most videos these days
[07:55] <minimalist> dr_willis, haha nice :) youtube-dl
[07:55] <NeonSpeed> I get bored too easily and find myself on YouTube quite a bit
[07:56] <minimalist> my PrOn site is better than u tube
[07:56] <minimalist> in terms of bandwidth
[07:56] <F014> Hi there .. I have a Digital Key analogy assignment , using Ubuntu, but my question to help finish this is : WHAT is the Art of lock-picking or Locks called ? - It ends in -ology.
[07:56] <dr_willis> offtopic-ologu
[07:56] <clcto> F014: you dont have to repeat your question 3 minutes later
[07:56] <dr_willis> offtopic-ology
[07:57] <NeonSpeed> LOL @dr_willis
[07:57] <minimalist> lol
[07:57] <F014> screw this.
[07:57] <dr_willis> we dont do homework for you.
[07:57] <NeonSpeed> screw thisology? interesting
[07:57] <minimalist> lmao
[07:57] <clcto> good riddancw
[07:57] <dr_willis> 'read your class textbook-ology' ?
[07:57] <NeonSpeed> That sounds like something most drop outs study
[07:57] <minimalist> old monk rum . classic caramel .. sipping rum
[07:58] <NeonSpeed> Then they follow it up by quiting-job-ology
[07:58] <minimalist> say whats u folsk take on crunchbang?
[07:58] <minimalist> is cruchbang really lightweight?
[07:58] <dr_willis> minimalist:  i dont see the point really. its not ubuntu either. ;)
[07:59] <dr_willis> linux + a window manager - easy  to do with ubuntu  if you wanted to
[07:59] <minimalist> or can one just strip down ubuntu and have the same effect?
[07:59] <clcto> minimalist: lightweight = archlinux
[07:59] <usr13> minimalist: You can install xubuntu or lubuntu
[07:59] <dr_willis> ubuntu running blackbox, or openbox, or whatever wm you want
[07:59] <minimalist> dr_willis, yup.. thats what i was thinkin
[08:00] <minimalist> fluxbox .. is what i run
[08:00] <dr_willis> i just stick to Lubuntu mainly
[08:00] <usr13> minimalist: crunchbang is openbox I think which is kind of a stripped down sort of GUI.
[08:00] <clcto> dr_willis: the difference is that it will still have all the gnome packages
[08:00] <minimalist> usr13, ya but it has some other issues as well
[08:00] <dr_willis> theres to many  good tools out there that need gnome. :) so it dosent matter if the wm uses gnome or not to me.
[08:01] <dr_willis> its the programs you run that matter more i find.
[08:01] <minimalist> like my crunch bang installation parked my hdd heads every minute
[08:01] <NeonSpeed> Has anybody been on the latest Fedora?
[08:01] <usr13> minimalist: I'm sure it does, and support would be harder to come by.
[08:01] <minimalist> hdparm -B 255 did not have any effect!!!!
[08:01] <clcto> NeonSpeed: ot
[08:01] <raptor67682> there are different version of raspberry=? how to recognize them=?
[08:01] <NeonSpeed> ot?
[08:01] <raptor67682> is there big differetnce bettween them?
[08:01] <dr_willis> raptor67682:   theres an A and a B.
[08:01] <clcto> !ot | NeonSpeed
[08:02] <dr_willis> you want a B most likely.
[08:02] <dr_willis> $35 or so.
[08:02] <dr_willis> and the Pi's do NOT run ubuntu
[08:02] <raptor67682> ahhh many thanks
[08:02] <raptor67682> this channel is so cool
[08:02] <raptor67682> ubbuntu will go on it ... but i plan an ubuntu server install
[08:03] <dr_willis> there is NO UBUNTU for the Pi - as far as i know.
[08:03] <NeonSpeed> clcto, I wasn't gonna ask for any advice on it, was just curious
[08:03] <raptor67682> DO NOT RUN UBUNTU ?? why ????????????
[08:03] <clcto> NeonSpeed: still ot
[08:03] <dr_willis> it CAN NOT run ubuntu. the Arm cpu is not   enough for ubuntu.
[08:03] <minimalist> i was a slackware fella .. apt got me to buntu
[08:03] <dr_willis> it has an arm 5 , ubuntu wants a 6
[08:03] <dr_willis> or somthing like that
[08:03] <raptor67682> but you can do a debian install then[08:03] <dr_willis> raptor67682:  'rasbian' is the debian port for the Pi.
[08:04] <raptor67682> (on the pi )
[08:04] <raptor67682> support
[08:04] <dr_willis> theres dozens of other disrtos and os's for the pi as well
[08:04] <raptor67682> i preffer debian, it is cleaner
[08:04] <raptor67682> super
[08:04] <clcto> http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[08:04] <dr_willis> and theres the #raspberry-pi channel
[08:04] <dr_willis> and 1000's of info sites
[08:04] <lemonsparrow> I am using ubuntu 10.10 maverick.. is there any way I can upgrade this to higher versions without having to format or something ?
[08:05] <dr_willis> !eol |  lemonsparrow
[08:05] <clcto> lemonsparrow: apt get dist-upgrade
[08:05] <dr_willis> follow that last url
[08:05] <dr_willis> you dont dist-upgrade to a new release. ;)
[08:05] <clcto> dr_willis: what? really?
[08:05] <lemonsparrow> clcto: dr_willis ubottu so basically is it possible ?
[08:05] <clcto> i thought that is what it was for
[08:05] <clcto> lemonsparrow: yes
[08:05] <dr_willis> lemonsparrow:  its very possible.. see the url given above
[08:06] <dr_willis> may be fasster to do a clean install however
[08:06] <lemonsparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades right ?
[08:06] <Johnny_Linux> bigtime faster
[08:06] <clcto> dr_willis: and it will be "clean" :)
[08:06] <Johnny_Linux> 10.10 was pretty good while it lasted
[08:06] <dr_willis> 'dist-upgrade' is a more intensive upgrade to the same release..
[08:06] <dr_willis> do-release-upgrade to get to the next release
[08:06] <lemonsparrow> clcto: I need to start from requirements steps in that link ?
[08:07] <clcto> dr_willis: ok. my b
[08:07] <dr_willis> lemonsparrow:  step 1 would be to backup your current system in case the upgradeing fails.. an it can fail badly
[08:07] <lemonsparrow> dr_willis: god
[08:07] <lemonsparrow> dr_willis: I dont have much to back up
[08:07] <dr_willis> Unless you really have a fancy setup.. a clean install will most likely  be MIUCH faster
[08:08] <lemonsparrow> dr_willis: though I wish it happened fine the first time
[08:08] <lemonsparrow> dr_willis: ok
[08:08] <lemonsparrow> dr_willis: I need a step by step procedure
[08:08] <dr_willis> you must upgrade from one release to the next.. untill you get to a LTS release - then you upgrade from LTS to LTS
[08:08] <dr_willis>  then upgrade to the next non-lts release.. one step at a time.
[08:09] <lemonsparrow> dr_willis: the commands ??
[08:09] <dr_willis> so from 10.10 to 13.04  may take several upgrade
[08:09] <dr_willis> I dont memorize the commands.. thats what that url is for.
[08:09] <dr_willis> id do a clean install i the system is that old
[08:09] <dr_willis> and not much to it
[08:09] <minimalist> why does my install say /tmp is not ready  whist booting?
[08:10] <minimalist> why does my install say "/tmp is not ready " whist booting?
[08:10] <dr_willis> if the release is allready eol. you will need to alter your sources.list first i belive
[08:10] <minimalist> 12.04 lts
[08:10] <dr_willis> if the servers have been moved to the archive servers.
[08:10] <dr_willis> !lts
[08:11] <nyuszika7h> hi, I got the PulseAudio bell working with "load-sample-lazy x11-bell /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg" and "load-module module-x11-bell sample=x11-bell" in /etc/pulse/default.pa, but is there a way to make this use the currently set alert sound in system settings? I can't find any symlinks to the alert sound in /usr
[08:11] <dr_willis> 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 ->  12.04         that will be like  3gb of downloads i bet
[08:11] <lemonsparrow> dr_willis: I am not understanding much from that link.. my version is 10.10
[08:12] <dr_willis> lemonsparrow:  and what special setup do you have on that machine that you cant recreate on a newly  installed system?
[08:13] <lemonsparrow> dr_willis: nothing much
[08:13] <dr_willis> lemonsparrow:  by the time you got upgraded to 11.04 - you could have allready done a celan install of 12.04 i imagine.
[08:14] <dr_willis> unless you want to  not sttick to LTS and go with 13.04 ;)   then  go with  a clean install of 13.04
[08:14] <usr13> lemonsparrow: Just backup /home/lemonsparrow and do clean install.
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> minimalist, There was a bug reported on this at one time, are you all updated?
[08:16] <ashok> hello
[08:16] <usr13> lemonsparrow: Only takes about an hour or so on a pretty fast PC
[08:16] <lemonsparrow> dr_willis: usr13 so all I need to run on the terminal is sudo clean install ?
[08:16] <lemonsparrow> usr13: apart from the backup ?
[08:16] <usr13> lemonsparrow: No, clean install means you star over and do a fresh new install.
[08:17] <usr13> lemonsparrow: Do you have /home/ on a separate partition?
[08:17] <lemonsparrow> usr13: how to do it is my question  :)
[08:17] <lemonsparrow> usr13: I have windows too in my machine and I had installed ubuntu 10.10 using qubi
[08:17] <usr13> lemonsparrow: If so, you can just tell it to leave /home/ where it is and use the same user name.
[08:17] <lemonsparrow> wubi*
[08:17] <usr13> lemonsparrow: Oh, you mean *wubi*?
[08:17] <lemonsparrow> usr13: I am not that smart in ubuntu so a step by step command guide would be great
[08:18] <lemonsparrow> usr13: yes
[08:18] <usr13> lemonsparrow: That is a horse of a different color.  It's not a real install, wubi is sort of like a demo
[08:18] <lemonsparrow> usr13: :(
[08:18] <usr13> lemonsparrow: I suggest you ditch wubi and do a real install.
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> only if you're serious about ubuntu
[08:19] <nabblet> hi, i use an lenove t43p - when i want to run geparted (sudo and gksudo) it seems to be stuck ad detection (scans devices for ever). My log's show that i have lots of buffer i/o error on device fd0 - so i suspect gparted is stuck at scanning the floppy - which does not exist. the weired thing is: i have already blocked the flopy entry from fstab - it is still there. 1) how do i get gparted to ignoer the floppy 2) should i take care of that phantom flppy de
[08:19] <lemonsparrow> usr13: dont have source to do it
[08:19] <nabblet> s/ad/at
[08:19] <usr13> lemonsparrow: Just back up anything in /home/lemonsparrow that you need to keep and do a Ubuntu 12.04 LTS install, (dual boot).
[08:20] <usr13> lemonsparrow: "source"?
[08:20] <dr_willis> you should of said it was wubi earlier. ;)
[08:20] <dr_willis> you really dont want to upgrade wubi instgalls
[08:20] <lemonsparrow> usr13: no image to do it
[08:20] <ashoksahoo> Hi, I am using a proprietary embedded system which boots and works on live (usb) but on installing it doesnt get pass the boot menu
[08:20] <usr13> lemonsparrow: You can't download it?
[08:21] <clcto> ashoksahoo: and how does it fail
[08:21] <nabblet> ashoksahoo: are you using the normal install cd? maybe try the alternet CD - might be that the normal one is too heavy
[08:21] <clcto> nabblet: if he can use the live environment it shouldnt be to heavy
[08:21] <nabblet> ashoksahoo: usually on embedded system (very limited ressources) your best go is to use the minimal iso image.
[08:21] <nabblet> clcto: oh, you're right
[08:21] <ashoksahoo> nabblet: no, the video driver is not there, so I installed via alternate install
[08:22] <dr_willis> what ubuntu verion are you installing?
[08:22] <usr13> lemonsparrow: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[08:23] <ashoksahoo> is there any way to boot into a very safe mode with minimal drivers from grub
[08:24] <nabblet> ashoksahoo: in that case: what exactly happens. i guess you use grub for boot
[08:24] <nabblet> ashoksahoo: yes - but i'm not an expert on that
[08:24] <dr_willis> !text
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> ashoksahoo, You have a link where you got this usb install?
[08:25] <ashoksahoo> I followed this step by step http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-a-minimal-ubuntu-on-old-laptop/2012/02/24
[08:25] <nabblet> hi, i use an lenove t43p - when i want to run geparted (sudo and gksudo) it seems to be stuck ad detection (scans devices for ever). My log's show that i have lots of buffer i/o error on device fd0 - so i suspect gparted is stuck at scanning the floppy - which does not exist. the weired thing is: i have already blocked the flopy entry from fstab - it is still there. 1) how do i get gparted to ignoer the floppy 2) should i take care of that phantom floppy d
[08:26] <dr_willis> ashoksahoo:  and what ubuntu release are you installing?
[08:26] <ashoksahoo> 11.10
[08:26] <dr_willis> nabblet:  disable the floppy in bios perhaps
[08:26] <nabblet> I tried now with gksude gparted /dev/sda to ignore the floppy - same result. i don't see any disk activity either.
[08:26] <ashoksahoo> *13.10
[08:27] <ashoksahoo> I have a Live of 11.10 and I used the latest minimal iso
[08:27] <nabblet> dr_willis: ok, i will look into that. which leaves me with the more concerning question: why can't gparted use my hdd?
[08:27] <lemonsparrow> ubottu: I can download it but how to have it alongside windows is a concern
[08:27] <dr_willis> nabblet:  no idea.  if yu think ths the floppy causing issues.. stick in a disk. or disable it
[08:27] <clcto> nabblet: it can, it scans all drives before you can do anything. is there a flag you can pass it to scan only some drives
[08:28] <lemonsparrow> usr13: I can download it but how to have it alongside windows is a concern
[08:28] <nabblet> dr_willis: i don't have a floppy drive at all - i don't know how ubuntu got the idea there might be one
[08:28] <lemonsparrow> usr13: I am downloading the image now
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> ashoksahoo, 13.10 is in development is this what you installed with?
[08:28] <nabblet> clcto: yes. i am currently doing that: gksudo gparted /dev/sda
[08:28] <nabblet> /dev/sda is my hdd - i checked
[08:28] <dr_willis> nabblet:  weird. it might still have a bios setting..
[08:29] <clcto> nabblet: can you use parted?
[08:29] <nabblet> dr_willis: yeah...
[08:29] <ashoksahoo> wilee-nilee, wait let me double check
[08:30] <nabblet> clcto: sudo parted /dev/sda works like charm Oo
[08:30] <clcto> nabblet: then just use that :)
[08:31] <ashoksahoo> wilee-nilee no using 13.04
[08:31] <nabblet> clcto: will do... still it's a bit spooky gparted is wrecked...
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> ashoksahoo, Ah good, on a minimal install you have to install the desktop did you? So this is a boot problem right?
[08:32] <clcto> nabblet: yeah, no idea. especially since gparted is just supposed to be a wrapper for parted
[08:32] <nabblet> clcto: yeah
[08:33] <ashoksahoo> wilee-nilee, yes its a boot problem, its locking up the puny handheld pc
[08:33] <nabblet> clcto: maybe it is related to me using fluxbox? although i never had any problems...
[08:33] <clcto> nabblet: wm shouldnt be an issue
[08:33] <nabblet> clcto: also that disk manager works without complayer
[08:33] <nabblet> *complaint
[08:33] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | ashoksahoo try this
[08:33] <clcto> nabblet: i use gparted with notion all the time
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> ashoksahoo, You installed a desktop?
[08:34] <ashoksahoo> ok, thank you, I will update
[08:34] <clcto> 'all the time' may be an overstatement
[08:35] <nabblet> clcto: hm. gparted never had any trouble for me
[08:37] <nabblet> clcto: uhm... when calling gparted with /dev/sda i still get error logs about my fd0
[08:37] <nabblet> either something else is causing that errors, or gparted ignores the flag
[08:40] <nabblet> can some1 verify that gparted ignores the device flag? ubuntu 12.10?
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> nabblet, You might check the smart info in the disks app
[08:40] <nabblet> when using sudo gparted /dev/sda it get's stuck with trying to scan a non-existing fd0 device
[08:41] <nabblet> wilee-nilee: the what of the what?
[08:41] <ashoksahoo> wilee-nilee yes installed a desktop, but i just want cli, coz I know the embeded system has problem with graphics driver
[08:41] <nabblet> wilee-nilee: smart says it is ok
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> nabblet, there is an app called disks it is a partitioner, but it has a gear drop down top right corner that is part of the smart check on HD, usb's..etc
[08:42] <albert> skype webcam problem
[08:42] <albert> help me to solve skype webcam problem
[08:42] <karab44> hi
[08:42] <clcto> nabblet: what happens if you just run sudo parted (no device)
[08:42] <cfhowlett> karab44, greetings
[08:42] <clcto> albert: you need to be more descriptive
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !details|albert,
[08:43] <albert> webcam is disabled in skype
[08:43] <nabblet> clcto: works no problem. i get calls on fd0 too, but that does not hinder it from working
[08:43] <clcto> albert: does it work elsewhere>
[08:43] <albert> yes
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> ashoksahoo, Yu describe a puny handheld computer, does it have the hardware to run what you have installed?
[08:44] <wilee-nilee> You*
[08:44] <albert> it works on youtube
[08:44] <clcto> nabblet: yeah gparted must be f, i mean messed up
[08:44] <albert> it works good on youtube
[08:45] <albert> skype did not showed my cam
[08:45] <karab44> Can anybody give me a clue how to make that TightVNC server starts on my session only and x11vnc on guests and others?
[08:45] <clcto> karab44: .xinitrc>
[08:45] <nabblet> clcto: hm, one question. if you go parted and the enter select
[08:45] <ashoksahoo> wilee-nilee it runs xp, it has half decent atom cpu with unsupported video gma 500
[08:46] <karab44> clcto: yes...
[08:46] <nabblet> clcto: without anything else. does it list you the current device, or all devices you may select
[08:46] <clcto> nabblet: havent used parted in ages, don't really know
[08:46] <nabblet> clcto: i think i was wrong - parted does not access the fd0
[08:46] <nabblet> clcto: just do a quick check please
[08:46] <nabblet> clcto: it won't modify anything
[08:46] <yeehi> during installation of wheezy and using auto partitioning, it creates a /boot partition. By default, this partition is not set to "bootable". Why? Do we manually have to set it to bootable to get it to work?
[08:46] <clcto> im not on ubuntu
[08:47] <nabblet> clcto: the point is: fd0 is not shown in parted - so maybe it is (rightfully) ignored by parted
[08:47] <wilee-nilee> ashoksahoo, It is hard to tell what computer you have, and what you have actually installed, these are key points.
[08:47] <karab44> clcto: I will have a look at this .xinitrc . Is it somewhere in /etc/ ?
[08:47] <clcto> karab44: it is in your home folder.
[08:47] <karab44> oh
[08:47] <clcto> modify yours and then modify the /etc one to do what you want the default to do
[08:47] <karab44> so it lunches during the session I presume
[08:47] <ashoksahoo> http://www.datalogictechnologies.com/index.php/products/universal-handheld-devices/models-universal-handheld-devices/product/49-uhd
[08:49] <nabblet> clcto: ok, i did sudo parted /dev/fs0 - i get errors loged (no surprise) but then parted says: yeah well, read-only then and works on
[08:49] <ashoksahoo> wilee-nilee, installed 13.04 minimal with ubuntu desktop
[08:49] <albert> skype webcam detection please help
[08:49] <clcto> GNU Parted 3.1
[08:49] <clcto> Using /dev/sda
[08:49] <clcto> Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
[08:49] <clcto> (parted) select
[08:49] <clcto> New device?  [/dev/sda]?
[08:49] <FloodBot1> clcto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:49] <nabblet> clcto: so gparted sould do that too
[08:49] <dr_willis> yeehi:   wheezy is not ubuntu.. and as far as i know. grub/linux dosent care about the bootable flag
[08:49] <nabblet> clcto: yeah, that's what i have too
[08:49] <nabblet> clcto: do you have any other /dev/sd* in your computer?
[08:49] <clcto> sorry guys that was all supposed to go to /msg nabblet
[08:50] <dr_willis> albert:  check askubuntu.com yet?  skype can be a pain
[08:50] <clcto> no
[08:50] <nabblet> clcto: a moment let me go for the external hdd and see the response
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> ashoksahoo, That wont run the ubuntu desktop, and whether it will run ubuntu at all I would question, it says linux though.
[08:52] <karab44> clcto: I do not have such .xinitrc file. Do I have to create it there?
[08:53] <ashoksahoo> yep, should try it once more i guess, running the install leaving for lunch, will update
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> ashoksahoo, I would start with something like puppy linux.
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> 512 memory would run a cli setup but its a rather unusual device is all.
[08:54] <yeehi> thanks, dr_willis - i posted in the wrong channel!
[08:54] <nabblet> clcto: well - it does not list the devices available. so no news..
[08:56] <uu> yo
[08:56] <uu> nuendo
[08:57] <uu> how do i get sound working in lmms?
[08:57] <karab44> how to move between desktops?
[08:57] <uu> like i can play mp3 but theres no sound
[08:57] <clcto> karab44: depends on your wm/de
[08:57] <karab44> I have host:0 and host:1
[08:57] <karab44> gnome/unity
[08:57] <karab44> im on ubuntu 12.04
[08:58] <uu> no work though im sure
[08:58] <uu> it recognizes my soundcard
[08:58] <karab44> so how to switch that thing on ?
[08:58] <karab44> I tried ctrl+alt F8 but it's black
[08:58] <karab44> so where is my second desktop at?
[08:59] <Johnny_Linux> ive never used unity, maybe try ctrl+alt  arrow left/right
[08:59] <dr_willis> try the  other alt-crtl-f#'s ?
[08:59] <karab44> all of them
[08:59] <karab44> so first six are terminals, 7th is current and rest is black
[09:00] <uu> what is the keyboard command for window view?
[09:00] <uu> for what is open
[09:00] <karab44> new X desktop is host:1
[09:00] <karab44> but where is it? :D
[09:01] <karab44> of course tightvnc told me that.
[09:02] <karab44> ok I got it
[09:03] <karab44> but it is only a wallpaper
[09:04] <nabblet> hi, what's the kernel that should be used on an up-to date 12.10 ubuntu?
[09:04] <karab44> ok I think I have to customize my session... :P
[09:05] <jonascj> Anyone using KVM on their ubuntu? I think my /var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock have the wrong permissions. I should be owned by root:libvirtd, shouldn't it? Mine is owned by root:root ...
[09:06] <lord4163> nabblet: I don't know, why you don't upgrade to 13.04? :P
[09:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[09:08] <nabblet> lord4163: never touch a running system :P
[09:08] <nabblet> to be honest - i think the release cycles of ubuntu are too fast... if i'd go with it, i'd get to upgrade whenever i finished to configure the system to my satisfaction - but that's ot :P
[09:08] <nabblet> usually i go for LTS only
[09:09] <lord4163> nabblet: yeah, that's why I run Ubuntu 12.04, the lazy sysadmin (actually elementary os which is based of ubuntu 12.04)
[09:10] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, here's giggle.  After 4 years of rebooting my dualie to reset the frarking wifi hardware switch cuz my finger slipped and rfkill rarely worked ... I learned that I actually could reset it in ubuntu with ctrl-f2.  Facepalm.
[09:10] <albert> my discs are not showing please help
[09:11] <nabblet> dr_willis: clcto thank you two - i going to see what i can do about that fd0 thing. it is really wired. could it be that it is mistaken for something else? e.g. my laptop is in a docking station right now
[09:11] <nabblet> i'll report back
[09:11] <cfhowlett> !details|albert, discs?  what discs?
[09:12] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, ah , nice to know
[09:12] <albert> my d drive and e drive are not showing on desktop
[09:13] <cfhowlett> albert, and those are physical drives?
[09:13] <albert> yes
[09:14] <albert> i mean partitions
[09:14] <cfhowlett> albert, how did you make the parts?
[09:14] <albert> using windows
[09:14] <cfhowlett> albert, yes...
[09:14] <cfhowlett> albert, you know the deal.  use ubuntu to make ubuntu partitions ... windows doesn't always play nice.
[09:15] <albert> i need to get that data
[09:15] <albert> how to do that
[09:16] <cfhowlett> albert, boot your ubuntu usb.  fire up gparted.  partition.
[09:17] <dr_willis> mounting windows drives in linux?
[09:23] <albert> discs are not showing
[09:29] <uu> anyone alive?
[09:30] <uu> what is the shortcut to show the 'wall' where i can choose a window?
[09:31] <lovethecode> Double click on icon on left pane?
[09:31] <uu> super+w
[09:31] <lovethecode> Ah
[09:33] <clue_h> lovethecode, super key and s
[09:33] <clue_h> wrong person sorry
[09:34] <nabblet> dr_willis: clcto : you were right. i had to disable something floppy related in bios (lenovo laptops seem to have pretty much stuff... i even hadn an infrared connection i didn't know about XD )
[09:35] <nabblet> dr_willis: clcto now, the fd0 stuff is gone, and gparted works
[09:35] <nabblet> !kdm
[09:35] <zimbo> how can i upgrade to the latest version of python? will it break anything?
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> zimbo  if you want soemthing beyond the repos, tou need a ppa, but that's not supported here
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[09:36] <clue_h> zimbo, no you'll just have a separate install
[09:37] <zimbo> i see
[09:37] <zimbo> thanks
[09:40] <Redori> My doesn't work.
[09:40] <nabblet> uhm, the bot should know about kdm
[09:40] <nabblet> it is a packages
[09:40] <pawell> Hi. Is anyone willing? http://wehack.it/hackathons/54-kivy-online-hackathon :) http://kivy.org/#home
[09:40] <nabblet> *package
[09:40] <Redori> Only in alsamixer is Beep
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> pawell  the question being?
[09:41] <Redori> EARSPEAKER in use speaker volume doesn't have.
[09:41] <Redori> No sound :(
[09:41] <cfhowlett> !details|pawell, willing?  no.
[09:41] <zimbo> there is python 3.3 in the software center - is it 3.3.2?
[09:43] <pawell> ubottu MonkeyDust: I'm sorry, I wanted to advertise online hackathon.
[09:43] <Redori> Only EARSPEAKER not works , only in alsamixer is Beep
[09:45] <Redori> try :(
[09:46] <Redori> in windows EARSPEAKER does
[09:47] <Redori> try try try
[09:47] <Redori> does talking here?
[09:48] <Redori> speaker doesn't have EARSPEAKER doesn't ubuntu the sound alsamixer Beep only
[09:48] <Redori> window only
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Redori, what is your first language???
[09:49] <Redori> Beep
[09:49]  * cfhowlett ... thinks that google translate isn't really helping here ...
[09:49] <Redori> Beep only in alsamixer
[09:50] <Redori> no sound
[09:50] <Mackwerk> Hey! I just installed a nvidia nvs 310 and plugged my 2 monitors into the slots, but only one monitor can be found, does anyone know how to fix that?
[09:51] <bekks> Mackwerk: Did you run nvidia-settings?
[09:51] <Redori> Beep only in alsamixer
[09:51] <Mackwerk> bekks, yes, I've been in that one, there's only x screen 0 and gpu 0
[09:53] <Redori> EARSPEAKER doesn't sound
[09:53] <bekks> Redori: What is your mother tongue?
[09:53] <Redori> yes
[09:54] <Mackwerk> Ah! if I swtich the cords around it works :)
[09:54] <cfhowlett> bekks, pretty sure he's running a translator ... for all the good that's doing.
[09:54] <cfhowlett> Redori, question ...
[09:54] <bekks> cfhowlett: Thats why I tried to change the phrase :)
[09:54] <grahamsavage> .
[09:54] <Redori> :D
[09:55] <cfhowlett> Redori, what language do you speak?
[09:55] <mariappp> hi people, i have installed eclipse in ubuntu with plugin sdk for mobile applications
[09:55] <Redori> Beep
[09:55]  * cfhowlett .... and I'm officially out.
[09:55] <mariappp> my problem is ... i can't see android emulator.
[09:56] <bekks> Mackwerk: Did you install the android emulator?
[09:56] <cfhowlett> mariappp, ^^^^
[09:56] <mariappp> yes
[09:56] <Mackwerk> bekks, the android emulator? No, I dont have that :o
[09:56] <bekks> I think I need to get a coffee first :)
[09:57] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: I think one of the african ones
[09:57] <Redori> no sound
[09:57] <mariappp> i download the pack which is everything incorpored for linux
[09:57] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, too broad ...
[09:57] <mariappp> in eclipse webpage.
[09:57] <Redori> only windows sound ::
[09:58] <bekks> Redori: http://translate.google.de/#en/de/What%20is%20your%20native%20language%3F
[09:58] <grahamsavage> Redori: Africa?
[09:58] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: not for me.. narrows it down to languages i don't know :D
[09:58] <grahamsavage> english / chinese / tiny bit of french :D
[09:59] <Redori> LANGUAGE
[09:59]  * cfhowlett ... this is just getting better and better.
[10:00] <mariappp> why did u ask about native language @bekks?
[10:01] <cfhowlett> mariappp, there are several IRC channels in with other than english support
[10:01] <grahamsavage> i find most of the time, i can do a better job of translating what they ask if they just write in their original language
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !fr|Redori,
[10:01] <grahamsavage> i much prefer getting sent chinese than broken-english
[10:02] <mariappp> sorry for my english
[10:02] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: very limited though, if your not one of the top 8 languages
[10:02] <mariappp> i just wanted to ask for about eclipse.
[10:02] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, I'm in China.  Whatever he's speaking isn't Chinese.
[10:03] <grahamsavage> is there a portuagese? channel?
[10:03] <Redori> no sound
[10:03] <grahamsavage> marienz, : your english is good
[10:03] <cfhowlett> mariappp, you should probably ask the #eclipse or #android
[10:03] <grahamsavage> i mean mariappp
[10:03] <cfhowlett> !pr|Redori,
[10:03] <cfhowlett> !br|Redori,
[10:04] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: thankyou... no thankyou :D
[10:04] <marienz> \o/
[10:04] <Redori> stop talk
[10:05] <cfhowlett> Redori, no english?
[10:05] <grahamsavage> holy-crap they even have a brazillian channel :D .. awesome
[10:05] <cfhowlett> !translate
[10:05] <chillpil1_> Usage: !translate FromLanguage ToLanguage Word or Phrase to translate
[10:05] <Redori> no sound ubuntu
[10:05] <mariappp> @cfholett thanks, i am going to look for in android channel.... thank so much, danke, merçi, gracias, obrigada...........
[10:06] <Redori> but windows does sound
[10:06] <cfhowlett> mariappp, best of luck
[10:07] <bl4ckdu5t> How can I use the "rm" function to remove all the files with a particular name from my drive
[10:07] <bl4ckdu5t> Just like the "del -s" works on windows OS
[10:08] <cfhowlett> bl4ckdu5t, rm **.wildcard
[10:08] <grahamsavage> bl4ckdu5t: i'd use the locate function to make a list
[10:08] <Redori> i outed you stop talk !!!
[10:08] <cfhowlett> bl4ckdu5t, but you better be darn certain you've filtered for non-essential files
[10:09] <bekks> bl4ckdu5t: You have to find them first an delete them. Test like this: find / -type f -name nameofthe.file -exec echo {} \;
[10:09]  * cfhowlett ... "outed"?
[10:09] <Redori> out
[10:09] <bekks> bl4ckdu5t: If it find the files your want to delete, replace echo with rm -f
[10:09] <cfhowlett> Redori, are you even reading the messages we send you?
[10:09] <grahamsavage> bl4ckdu5t: actually if it's unique enough cfhowlett solution will work .. but you need to make sure that that file name is not included in any part of the path
[10:10] <grahamsavage> Redori:  we can not understand you.  Which country are you?
[10:11] <bekks> grahamsavage: He's in Canada. But doesnt speak english or french.
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> grahamsavage  what' is your own language?
[10:11] <bl4ckdu5t> bekks: I am trying that now
[10:12] <raven> hello, is there anything better than vmware for ubuntu?
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> addressed wrong person, apologies
[10:12] <bekks> raven: VirtualBox: www.virtualbox.org
[10:12] <raven> tyvm
[10:12] <cfhowlett> raven, better than?  subjective.  virtualbox is a good virtualizer opttion
[10:12] <grahamsavage> MonkeyDust: english
[10:13] <grahamsavage> oh no worries
[10:13] <bl4ckdu5t> What happened was that I put my external hard disk drive in a windows computer with the nimda virus which created readme.eml files in all my folders
[10:13] <bekks> bl4ckdu5t: Then just pust readme.eml into the cvommand above instead of the filename placeholder.
[10:14] <grahamsavage> bl4ckdu5t: oh how annoying
[10:14] <grahamsavage> bl4ckdu5t: that's probably pretty safe then as readme.eml is fairly unique
[10:16] <bl4ckdu5t> but one more thing it did was to add a few lines to my HTML files and I was thinking if there's a way I can grep the HTML files to delete some lines containing its script it'll also be helpful
[10:16] <bl4ckdu5t> I've successfully deleted the readme.eml files now
[10:17] <backwards> hi
[10:18] <cfhowlett> backwards, greetings
[10:19] <backwards> cfhowlett, i have a question
[10:19] <cfhowlett> !ask
[10:19] <backwards> you can't see who's checked out your facebook page, can you?
[10:20] <bekks> backwards: How is that related to Ubuntu? :)
[10:20] <backwards> its not. i just needed a quick answer. no one else to ask
[10:20] <cfhowlett> backwards, not an ubuntu issue.  sorry
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> backwards  wrong channel
[10:21] <backwards> thats now how this channel was last night
[10:21] <backwards> but whatever
[10:21] <abdou_001> lol long live windows
[10:21] <bekks> backwards: related to ubuntu support - yes, it is :)
[10:21] <backwards> im taking a linux class so ill stay here until i need real help
[10:21] <abdou_001> screw linux
[10:21] <abdou_001> its complicated
[10:21] <abdou_001> os
[10:22] <abdou_001> long live windows
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> abdou_001  thank you for calling us smart
[10:22] <cfhowlett> abdou_001, if it's too much for you, you're free to go back to windows.
[10:22] <abdou_001> windows ruuules
[10:22] <hdon> hi all. i want to reclaim "alt+right mouse button" for applications. right now it opens the window menu. i can't find it in keyboard settings. help!
[10:22] <abdou_001> between us
[10:22] <abdou_001> windows is better
[10:22] <abdou_001> dosnt it
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> abdou_001  please go away
[10:22] <bl4ckdu5t> abdou_001: You should probably tell Bill Gates he may give you a thousand dollars
[10:22]  * cfhowlett ... milk and cookies kept him awake again, I see.
[10:23] <ikonia> abdou_001: you're welcome back in the channel - but please don't try to troll again.
[10:23] <backwards> what>
[10:23] <backwards> ?
[10:24]  * cfhowlett ... knows he's too unforgiving to be a channel moderator.
[10:24] <abdou_001> ok
[10:24] <backwards> i dont think you know what trolling is
[10:24] <backwards> i just asked a question, and i get it. only ubuntu stuff here
[10:24] <ikonia> backwards: no-one spoke to you
[10:24] <abdou_001> if ther s somthing wrong in liking windows ..... iwont
[10:24] <ikonia> backwards: hence why I said abdou_001's name
[10:24] <bl4ckdu5t> hehe!
[10:24] <ikonia> abdou_001: you're welcoe to love an use windows as much as you want,
[10:25] <backwards> oops
[10:25] <abdou_001> i v got a qt about mandriva
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !topic|abdou_001,
[10:25] <cfhowlett> abdou_001, ask in #mandriva.
[10:25] <ikonia> abdou_001: then join the mandriva channel, this one only supports ubuntu
[10:26] <abdou_001> ah k
[10:26] <abdou_001> ok
[10:26] <abdou_001> thx
[10:32] <inroel> hello everyone, powering on the PC, the start of my desktop deviates from normal in a variety of ways; i.e. sometimes the screen remains purple, and only proceeds when I do ctrl+alt+del to desktop login, or sometimes when restarting (not sure also when turning off and on) it shows command line where it is supposed to lead to login screen, and when I then do ctrl+alt+f7 it carries out a restart process..in other times it just got stuck at login window after
[10:32] <inroel> entering password and it then either logged in with ctrl+alt+del, or by pressing long at power button..though these symptoms bear a degree of vagueness, could you maybe have a hint at what the problem may be?
[10:40] <bekks> bl4ckdu5t: Please keep it in the channel.
[10:41] <bl4ckdu5t> ok
[10:42] <bl4ckdu5t> I need a clearer explanation of the command: "find / -type f -name nameofthe.file -exec echo {} \;" that was given to me earlier
[10:42] <bekks> bl4ckdu5t: At which part?
[10:43] <bl4ckdu5t> "-type f" and "-name" do not appear anywhere in the man of find
[10:43] <bekks> bl4ckdu5t: They do.
[10:43] <bl4ckdu5t> also the "/" after the find command
[10:43] <bekks> bl4ckdu5t: The / is the starting point of the search.
[10:44] <bl4ckdu5t> ok I think I understand
[10:45] <bl4ckdu5t> one more thing why is the type f?
[10:45] <bekks> bl4ckdu5t: Because you are searching _f_iles.
[10:46] <bl4ckdu5t> Thanks!
[10:46] <bekks> bl4ckdu5t: you're welcome :)
[11:05] <nabblet> hi. i use gnome shell, unity and fluxbox. my problem is, that after logging in from gdm, i always get to see that bleu,vertical striped wallpaper that changes over time - no matter what other wallpaper i use in the gui later
[11:06] <nabblet> how can i prevent gdm (i suspect it is the culprit) from loading that wallpaper? googled alreday so much :( also i was not able to remove that wallpaper - could not locate it on my hdd. search all places that came to mind in /usr/share
[11:09] <Abhijit> hi. i want to know the names of two linux games. i forgot the name. first game story is about a future scenario where a scientist create a colony and no one can go out the colony. his child is left outside the colony thet he is the game hero and he come to save the colony. and other game is where a plane clashes in jungle and then we have to save the princes.
[11:09] <Abhijit> those games were in the ubuntu repo
[11:13] <Abhijit> help please.
[11:13] <Ben66> Abhijit: thats really not an ubuntu support issue, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic or something like that
[11:13] <anonee> hello ubuntuians! is there a way to control chromium volume?
[11:15] <bibi32> after booting ubuntu 13.04, it shows up the desktop for a few seconds and then screen is getting completely black, computer is not shut down but I can't see anything on the screen, what should I do?
[11:15] <bibi32> it's a new installation, ubuntu 13.04 32bits
[11:16] <anonee> bibi32 sounds like a VGA issue?
[11:17] <anonee> try logging in to a unity 2D session
[11:18] <InterWeb> Hi , I want to install ubuntu what do I can do ?
[11:19] <nabblet> InterWeb: how firm are you with computers?
[11:19] <bibi32> anonee: how can I do that? I have no control over the computer, I can't see anything on the screen unfortunately ...
[11:19] <InterWeb> nabblet , what ?
[11:20] <InterWeb> ??
[11:20] <InterWeb> Sorry , My question is how do I can install java jdk on ubuntu ?
[11:20] <anonee> bibi32 you can't reach the login screen?
[11:21] <bibi32> anonee: during installation, I had picked up "login without asking for the password"
[11:23] <anonee> bibi32 then you'll have to enter some options in the GRUB boot screen, I'll try to find them please wait
[11:24] <bibi32> anonee: ok thx, I'm not sure I have grub tough, it's not a side to side installation with windows but ubuntu only on the computer
[11:25] <lord4163> Internet13: yes
[11:25] <raptor67682> hi
[11:26] <raptor67682> if I use a raspberry  pi B , and put it into a box (casing), do it need a extra cooling system??
[11:26] <raptor67682> it that reliable, can it burn?
[11:26] <raptor67682> I saw on ebay that they sell some Transistor for the PI
[11:27] <shadej> hi guys
[11:27] <Ben66> raptor67682: ask in #raspberrypi
[11:27] <shadej> I installed sublime from a tar file
[11:27] <shadej> I can I remove it
[11:27] <shadej> ?
[11:29] <anonee> bibi32 http://www.intdblog.com/2009/09/grub-2-graphical-boot-tips-to-set.html but I suggest that you use the installation CD or flash or whatever you have to boot in live mode and see if your display works, and check whether you're in 2d or 3d mode.
[11:30] <InterWeb> between openjdk and oracle jdk which one is better to use ?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> InterWeb  the one you like most
[11:32] <InterWeb> MonkeyDust , I want just use eclipse and android adt :/
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> InterWeb  i missed that part in your question
[11:35] <ctw> Hi! A while ago I changed my keyboard layout from the command line using setxkbmap and now this is the only way I can change the keyboard layout (I used to be able to do it with the KDE keyboard indicator in the task bar). I'd love to get the functionality back to change the layout with the widget in the task bar ... any ideas what I need to do to accomplisht this?
[11:35] <sharperguy> Where can I git clone the latest kernel source tree, and also how many MB would it be?
[11:35] <bibi32> anonee: I don't fully understand what's explained on that link, should I change "VGA console modes"?
[11:38] <bibi32> anonee: I've just managed to get into my session, I've holded shift during boot, then booted in "graphical recovery mode", now I see the desktop with a low resolution, and it's not getting black, is there some logs or something I should take a look at?
[11:41] <anonee> bibi32 I don't know actually, but I suggest that you try the live mode, and then google how to know whether you're in unity 2d or 3d mode, then depending on the results you may find that installing 12.04 is best for your hardware.
[11:45] <bibi32> anonee: based on descriptions in http://askubuntu.com/questions/62001/am-i-using-unity-or-unity-2d, I'd say I'm using unity 3d
[11:47] <anonee> bibi32 what's your VGA card model?
[11:47] <naveen_> how to install  windows 7 on /dev/sda8
[11:47] <naveen_> ple
[11:47] <naveen_> please help me?
[11:47] <naveen_> i can't install windows 7 over my ubuntu
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> naveen_  ask in ##windows how to install windows
[11:48] <naveen_> didn't u have any idea
[11:48] <naveen_> about that
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> naveen_  what is windows?
[11:48] <streulma> are there Macbook Pro Retina users here? I try to switch from Mac to Ubuntu
[11:48] <craigbass1976> is it an Ubuntu, a Xubuntu, or an app specific (might be worse with some, I can't tell yet) behavior -- when I try to open a file, I'm not shown something like the last directory I was in, or sometimes even the directory I'm in currently (like if I already have a file open)  This is a pain when I have to go browsing through the file tree so much after hitting the open button.
[11:48] <anonee> so... anybody got an idea about how to control the volume of individual apps under 12.04?
[11:49] <naveen_> i mean i want to install windows 7 over on of the sda partition
[11:49] <naveen_> but i can't do
[11:49] <bl4ckdu5t> naveen_: Do you want to install windows as a virtual machine on your Ubuntu?
[11:49] <craigbass1976> naveen_, traditionally (and I haven't dual booted in years -- I think I last did it with '98 on my own PC) windows needs to go on first
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> anonee  system settings > Sound > applications
[11:49] <naveen_> no actually i dont wan't that
[11:49] <naveen_> i wanna make dual boot
[11:49] <naveen_> with ubuntuj
[11:50] <streulma> is there a reason why I switch over from Mac to Ubuntu?
[11:50] <craigbass1976> naveen_, have you formatted /dev/sd8 to be blank, with no filesystem even?  Sometimes when you format ntfs from ubuntu Windows still has a hissy and won't see the partition
[11:50] <anonee> MonkeyDust WOW! and this got a memory?
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> anonee  not sure what you mean
[11:51] <streulma> Is Ubuntu better than Mac ?
[11:52] <bazhang> !ot | streulma
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> streulma  depends on what you like most
[11:52] <anonee> MonkeyDust I mean does it save the volume setting till next session? nvm I'll just try that, but thank you!
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> anonee  it does :)
[11:53] <naveen_> so what i need to do
[11:53] <streulma> I mean I have a retina and want to know if that's compatible with Ubuntu
[11:53] <bibi32> anonee: it's  RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650]
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> streulma  use a live dvd or usb and try it, to find out
[11:54] <ikonia> streulma: there are known font issues
[11:54] <lord4163> streulma: Ubuntu runs well on Macs AFAIK
[11:54] <ikonia> streulma: the dots per inch cause a problem for the fonts
[11:54] <craigbass1976> naveen_, I don't know who else is coaching you, but I'd wipe the partition of everything (including a filesystem) and see if Windows will install on it.  You will probably have to fix the boot loader if things are the same as they were years ago
[11:55] <streulma> ikonia: is it to solving ?
[11:55] <ikonia> streulma: not at this time
[11:55] <anonee> bibi32 again, try the live session, experience with the performance, until you know for sure what's best for your hardware :D
[11:55] <Skeptix> Hi, I randomly have an irq error that breaks my dvb card. I would like to automatically reboot my computer after that error. What would be the simplest way to do that?
[11:56] <streulma> ikonia: what to do then ? Not run Ubuntu? :)
[11:56] <ikonia> streulma: I believe that's the current solution, or accept the limitation
[11:57] <Skeptix> Right now with my noob skills, I would go for a cron script that check if "dmesg" outputs the error
[11:58] <karab44> Hello
[11:59] <karab44> I have a question: When I type users in terminal I see: karab44 karab44. Is this correct? Why account is doubled? I am on 1204desktop
[11:59] <karab44> users command
[12:00] <lord4163> streulma: so next time you don't have to buy proprietary expensive closed laggy hardware/software :)
[12:03] <karab44> anybody?
[12:03] <craigbass1976> I'm kind of curious -- is what I was telling naveen still true?  Windows needs to generally go on to a drive first, and if it went on second you have to go back and fix grub?
[12:04] <streulma> craigbass1976: yes update-grub will find Windows :)
[12:05] <craigbass1976> karab44, sounds like users shows everyone logged into the system.  I was in a terminal, did su - to someone else, but still only saw the user that fired up the terminal when I typed users.  If I did a ctrl alt f1 and logged in, THEN typed users, I saw both.  Are you in twice somehow?
[12:09] <karab44> I am logged in only in xsession
[12:09] <karab44> but wait I discussing it already on #linux
[12:11] <karab44> ok solved
[12:11] <karab44> it was because I was using gnome-terminal
[12:11] <karab44> and xsession
[12:12] <nabblet> hi
[12:13] <nabblet> when i log in from gdm, gnomes defualt background (blue, vertical stripes) flashes up for a short moment. am i the only one who has that?
[12:13] <nabblet> AND: how can i get it away?
[12:16] <ignacio> hi
[12:17] <ignacio> the < and > keys don't work in my external keyboard. It's a PS2 keyboard connected to USB through an adapter. Any help?
[12:20] <nabblet> when i log in from gdm, gnomes defualt background (blue, vertical stripes) flashes up for a short moment. am i the only one who has that?
[12:24] <Timthor> Hello. Is there anyone, who setup Jack+Pulseaudio ?
[12:24] <ciako73> ciao a tutti
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !it|ciako73,
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !ubuntustudio|timthor
[12:25] <ciako73> thank you...is the first time I acced...
[12:25] <cfhowlett> Timthor, jack is a popular (?) topic of discussion in #us ...
[12:27] <nabblet> hi, anyone here who uses gnome3?
[12:27] <Timthor> cfhowlett, thank u for the link, but i only need to commutate my microphone&mplayer to IDJC
[12:27] <bekks> !anyone|nabblet
[12:27] <shadej> I installed sublime editor from tar file, how can I uniinstall it?
[12:27] <bekks> shadej: Hopefully the tarball provides a readme.
[12:28] <shadej> bekks: I dont have the tar file now, I deleted it
[12:28] <bekks> shadej: Then you are out of luck.
[12:29] <nabblet> when ever i log in from gdm, the gnome default wallpaper (blue vertical stripes) flashes up before the aktual GUI (unity, fluxbox, gnome3, gnome2, ...) loads? can some1 please verify? and also how can i change that
[12:29] <shadej> bekks: what? I cant uninstall it?
[12:29] <nabblet> i asked in ghaome and they said it is a bug that got fixed in 3.8. we use 3.6. so my new plan is to repace the file in file basis to the image i want. but i can't locate the defualt image :(
[12:29] <nabblet> it is very frustrating
[12:29] <cfhowlett> shadej, get the .tar again, read the readme
[12:31] <nabblet> got it!
[12:32] <ice9> Are there other alternatives for ownCloud?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> !cloud
[12:36] <Timthor> Is there any alternatives to broadcast in Icecast2 (can't setup Jack to catch audio from my microphone)
[12:37] <A1Recon> In wget the downloaded data size is shown in bytes... right??
[12:38] <Tracy> I have installed Lubuntu 13.04 on a Dell Inspiron 1300 but do not know how disable the "tap to click" on the touchpad
[12:38] <jhutchins> !touchpad
[12:39] <Tracy> Thank you.
[12:41] <Timthor> Is there anyone, who setup Jack+Pulseaudio ?
[12:42] <shadej> cfhowlett: I downloaded it but there is no any readme file any other way?
[12:42] <neta> a problem with lubuntu- i just installed lubuntu 13.04 allong side windows 7, and when i rebooted i got a black screen. if i open my computer without the usb-stick it goes straight to windows. if i use the usb-stick it offers me to install or try without installing.. when i tried to reinstall it told me it is allready installed (i reinstalled anyway, the same...). ichecked for defacts and it was fine. the iso is correct. what can it be?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all again
[12:45] <Timthor> Hi
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|neta,
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  can I pm you?
[12:47] <craigbass1976> Timthor, http://www.doopensource.com/applications/stream-audio-with-ubuntu/  Is that helpful at all?  That was my setup at a church.
[12:48] <craigbass1976> Timthor, I don't remember having to mess with jack though.
[12:49] <ice9> Are there other alternatives for ownCloud?
[12:49] <neta> cfhowlett: is there a way to do it withput reinstalling lubuntu
[12:50] <Timthor> craigbass1976, when i run jack.plumbing it'perfectly catch sound from mplayer, but can't catch my voice in skype
[12:50] <Timthor> *it's
[12:51] <craigbass1976> Timthor, I don't know then.
[12:51] <craigbass1976> Timthor, I don't know jack. :)
[12:52] <InterWeb> How do I can install pycharm in ubuntu
[12:52] <Timthor> craigbass1976, so, how can I set up default jack config?
[12:53] <craigbass1976> Timthor, been here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration
[12:55] <pac1> trouble getting fgcom to work in next
[12:56] <shadej> how to make my default text editor to be gedit
[12:57] <Timthor> craigbass1976, what's wrong with it:   system:capture_1 -> PulseAudio JACK Source:front-left system:capture_2 -> PulseAudio JACK Source:front-right PulseAudio JACK Sink:front-left -> system:playback_1 PulseAudio JACK Sink:front-right -> system:playback_2
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> shadej  right click on text doc > properties > open with > set as default
[12:58] <Timthor> is system:capture_1&2 my microphone?
[12:58] <cfhowlett> neta, doing the nomodeset scheme doesn't require reinstallation
[13:00] <crunchbang> hi , i am form china
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !cn|crunchbang,
[13:01] <craigbass1976> Timthor, is there a monitor (vu meters) where you can see stuff light up when you tap the mic?
[13:01] <shadej> MonkeyDust: that changes only for files with same extension as the one I am changing right now
[13:01] <shadej> do I have to do this manually ? for txt,.java,.html..etc?
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> shadej  yes, guess so
[13:02] <Timthor> craigbass1976, no any. Pulsaudio doesn't show my microphone in Input devices
[13:03] <Timthor> craigbass1976, I have only "Jack source" there
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Timthor, does alsamixer show your mics ?
[13:05] <Timthor> BluesKaj, no, it show only Pulseaudio sourse
[13:05] <Timthor> BluesKaj, it=alsamixer
[13:06] <Timthor> Card: PulseAudio Chip: PulseAudio
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Timthor, I don't know anything about jack , what about pavucontrol is that what you mean by pulseaudio doesn't show ?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> your mics
[13:10] <m0x39> hi is anyone using the AMD catalyst drivers here ?
[13:10] <Timthor> Sorry, lost network connection
[13:12] <Timthor> so, alsamixer show only Pulsaudio card and chip
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Timthor, read this , you might want to remove pulseaudio if you want to use jack , http://jackaudio.org/pulseaudio_and_jack
[13:13] <Timthor> BluesKaj, so, how can I stream my skype+mplayer to Icecast2 without Pulseaudio?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Timthor, dunno , I understand that jack is very flexible but a bit complicated , but you shouid be able to do it , maybe the people at the #jack channel can help you.
[13:17] <Timthor> #jack or #ubuntu-jack ?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> well , try both Timthor
[13:22] <hedkandi> \join #gnupg
[13:22] <mdst> exit
[13:22] <hedkandi> #join
[13:23] <cfhowlett> hedkandi, wrong slash .... /join #channel
[13:29] <Marlenee> anyone know if "htop" support heat measurement
[13:29] <ikonia> it doesn't
[13:30] <Marlenee> what programmes support heat measurement  for CPU and ram and HHD ???
[13:30] <ikonia> lmsensors ?
[13:32] <hedkandi> hi there
[13:32] <hedkandi> anyone know what subkeys of a gpg are for?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> hedkandi, ho there
[13:33] <hedkandi> cfhowlett, what are subkeys of a gpg key for?
[13:34] <Marlenee> ikonia : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6047827/
[13:34] <ikonia> Marlenee: why are you pasting that to me ?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> hedkandi, sorry, IDK
[13:35] <Marlenee> error for lmsensors
[13:35] <bekks> What does "error for lmsensors" mean?
[13:35] <ikonia> Marlenee: have you read how to configure and set it up ?
[13:35] <Marlenee> full info for error - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6047835/
[13:35] <hedkandi> cfhowlett, that's ok, but I expect someone here does
[13:35] <ikonia> Marlenee: have you read how to configure and set it up ?
[13:35] <hedkandi> or rather SHOULD
[13:35] <ikonia> Marlenee: also why are you root - the root account in ubuntu is locked
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !root|Marlenee,
[13:37] <Marlenee> its ssh server
[13:38] <ikonia> Marlenee: that's even wose, you shouldn't be able to ssh as root
[13:42] <ignacio> why?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !who|ignacio,
[13:42] <ignacio> sure, ub
[13:42] <ignacio> sure, ubottu
[13:42] <ignacio> ikonia: why?
[13:43] <ikonia> ignacio: what ?
[13:43] <ignacio> ikonia: why shouldn't you ssh as root?
[13:43] <bekks> ignacio: It is a severe security issue.
[13:43] <ikonia> because it's locked by default, so you are making a consious effort to unlock the account and unlock your sshd config to an open config
[13:44] <ignacio> ikonia: besides the default config issue, it it any less safe than non-root ssh + su?
[13:44] <ikonia> ignacio: su shouldn't work
[13:44] <ikonia> ignacio: yes, ssh'ing directly as root means your root account is open to attack
[13:45] <bekks> ignacio: su doesnt work unless you made the same effort to unlock your root account.
[13:45] <ignacio> bekks: by unlocking root you mean assigning a password to it right?
[13:45] <bekks> ignacio: Yes.
[13:45] <ikonia> it's actually a locked account, and it's disabled in the ssh config
[13:46] <FrameFever> how can I use the mousewheel to zoom in/out with compiz
[13:46] <FrameFever> ?
[13:46] <FrameFever> I get only the choice of Button 1-12
[13:46] <FrameFever> not mousewhell
[13:47] <Lartza> Where are console settings stored?
[13:47] <Lartza> tty
[13:47] <auronandace> FrameFever: why would you want that for the mousewheel? surely that would intefere with scrolling
[13:47] <turtle_> I am going through the book Think Python: Think like a computer scientist. Chapter 4 talks about swampy
[13:48] <turtle_> How to use it?
[13:48] <FrameFever> auronandace: I would of course use another modifier like "windows key" + mousewheel
[13:48] <sarthor> using ubuntu .. how can I create group for samba or to create group and give samba credentials ?
[13:49] <sarthor> i am here on this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-dc.html
[13:49] <turtle_> I have downloaded it and extracted in my home folder but not know how to use it
[13:50] <FrameFever> doesanybody know how to enable it?
[13:50] <Lartza> How do I set my consolefont and layout :/
[13:52] <mrproper> I am trying to install Ubuntu using the mini.iso file. I put in the mirror and it seems to need to download something but doesn't give feedback and stays on a blank screen indefinitely. The debug console shows some sig keys accepted but nothing else.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> turtle_, ask in #python
[13:56] <turtle__> How to use swampy for Python3.2 I downloaded .tar file and extracted it to home folder but when i type import swampy.TurtleWorld it prints error message
[13:56] <Lartza> It's not saving my settings for god's sake...
[14:03] <Mk558> Am I the only one who has trouble signing in with OpenID to the forums? :)
[14:03] <FrameFever> how can i add a program shortcut to the taskbar?
[14:03] <Mk558> Ubuntu version please?
[14:04] <FrameFever> 12.04 gnome classic desktop
[14:04] <Mk558> In 10.04LTS, I right-click the menu bar, then Add to Panel...
[14:04] <FrameFever> nothing here
[14:05] <FrameFever> not context menu
[14:05] <Mk558> then there's a little widget process you go through to add a program to the bar
[14:05] <Mk558> Couldn't tell you then
[14:05] <FrameFever> what?
[14:06] <FrameFever> it is not possible with my version?
[14:06] <Mk558> it should be
[14:07] <Mk558> http://askubuntu.com/questions/165562/add-apps-to-top-panel-in-ubuntu-12-04
[14:07] <Mk558> it seems you can just drag it to the menu bar
[14:08] <Marlenee> any idea how to downlaod torrent file on ssh server and after that make it seeding ??
[14:08] <bekks> Marlenee: wget them and then seed then using a torrent client/server.
[14:10] <Marlenee> i use ssh server so i need idea for using torrent via CLI
[14:17] <auchan> hongker_:是这个？
[14:18] <liv> Hi I am using intel compiler and missing the following include folder - /usr/include/c++/4.7/x86_64-linux-gnu - can someone tell me what package i need to install?
[14:18] <hongker_> auchan: yes..
[14:18] <bekks> !file /usr/include/c++/4.7/x86_64-linux-gnu
[14:18] <bekks> liv: You can search packages.ubuntu.com
[14:18] <kostkon> !find x86_64-linux-gnu
[14:18] <auchan> hongker_: 好吧 - -。一样嘛
[14:19] <liv> thanks
[14:19] <kostkon> maybe try installing  lib64ffi-dev
[14:19] <hongker_> auchan: 待会他们叫我们请使用英文。。
[14:21] <liv> ubottu: ok thanks I have a go
[14:25] <ignacio> oh god, chatty bots. Just what we need.
[14:28] <BluesKaj> chatty bots are ok , their responses are limited , not like real ppl who can go on and on :)
[14:29] <torrem> hi all
[14:29] <asan123> hi
[14:29] <ReaL> hi\
[14:30] <ReaL> just do sudo rm -rf /
[14:30] <Pricey> ReaL: hah de hah. Please don't :)
[14:30] <asan123> i have installed Ubuntu 13.04 on an intel c2d e4500+ jetway IN73M2_PHG mainboard abd afte installation & installing all updates i am having an internal error
[14:31] <asan123> can some1 help
[14:33] <asan123> i have installed Ubuntu 13.04 on an intel c2d e4500+ jetway IN73M2_PHG mainboard abd afte installation & installing all updates i am having an internal error
[14:33] <BluesKaj> ReaL, do want trouble ..?
[14:33] <asan123> this is my 1st install hence want help
[14:33] <OerHeks> asan123, so what error do you get? use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[14:33] <abdeljalil> heello
[14:34] <asan123> intel error usr\bin\compiz
[14:34] <asan123> and the screen is just blank
[14:35] <Daekdroom> !precise
[14:36] <Marlenee> i need torrent client for ssh server that support manageing from Web UI & CLI
[14:37] <SchrodingersScat> Marlenee: rtorrent is nice imo, and rutorrent is the webui for that iirc
[14:37] <OerHeks> asan123, maybe nomodeset solves your issue
[14:37] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | asan123
[14:38] <SchrodingersScat> Marlenee: deluge can also run in cli, last I checked.
[14:40] <Marlenee> SchrodingersScat : does deluge support Web ui
[14:40] <asan123> so whats te next step to take care of teh error
[14:41] <BluesKaj> !who | asan123
[14:42] <OerHeks> asan123, follow the url form ubottu: hold shift @boot, press e to edit, etc
[14:42] <SchrodingersScat> Marlenee: deluge says it does. http://deluge-torrent.org/
[14:43] <teachme> hey guys anyone around ?
[14:43] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | teachme
[14:43] <teachme> i have a problem with my fstan file
[14:44] <teachme> fstab that is it says an error occured whil emounting etc/fstab press s to skip mounting or m for recovery
[14:45] <asan123> oerheks I am new to this & hence the problem
[14:45] <BluesKaj> teachme , does this ocurr on every boot ?
[14:45] <teachme> yes
[14:46] <teachme> i was trying to manualy mount a windows share
[14:46] <teachme> and i guess i messed it up
[14:46] <teachme> i had a working line in 12.04 but it wouldnt mount in 13.04
[14:46] <BluesKaj> teachme, ok pastebin your fstab file
[14:47] <teachme> http://pastebin.com/k6Q8i5Ez
[14:47] <teachme> thanks so much for looking
[14:47] <teachme> hate to reload everything
[14:48] <asan123> h
[14:57] <teachme> it is mounting the swap file in the fstab if that matters
[14:57] <BluesKaj> teachme, i don't see the windows partition , run sudo blkid
[14:57] <teachme> paste bin that also ?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:58] <neta> i have a problem with my lubuntu- i just installed a lubuntu 13.04 alongside windows 7- and when i rebooted i got a black screen. now when i reboot it goes straight to the windows. the other option is to boot from the usb-stick and then i can reinstall lubuntu, and then it says that it's allready installed. using nomodeset i'm now "trying without installing". how can i use my freshly installed lubuntu?
[14:58] <teachme> http://pastebin.com/RtsTTfwL
[14:59] <teachme> /dev/sdc2: is ubuntu
[14:59] <teachme> /dev/sda2
[14:59] <teachme> is windows
[15:05] <neta> i tried to make nomodeset permanent in the grub file, but when i updated it in the terminal it gave me an error
[15:06] <Douug> hello all, anyone know of a good guide for ubuntu MS Exchange replacement? I have tried the Samba4 , Sogo and OpenChange solution from Google but Outlook hangs on loading profile and Samba4 crashes
[15:09] <BluesKaj> teachme, sorry , had a phone call, give me a minute or2
[15:09] <teachme> ok
[15:10] <teachme> thanks again for looking
[15:10] <teachme> so its the windows partition its looking for
[15:10] <teachme> i been manualy pointing it to the ubuntu install
[15:14] <user1337> Hello, I would like to know where the non-size difference between the .iso desktop and server comes. servers are not normally lighter?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> teacme,  paste this in fstab ,( UUID=08F3B37560BA87E6  /dev/sda2    ntfs  defaults 0   1 ), no gurantee it will work , but it should , drop the brackets of course
[15:18] <BluesKaj> BRB
[15:18] <teachme> leave the others i had and add this or drop them and have just this
[15:18] <teachme> ?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> add it
[15:19] <teachme> ok ill try ti and reboot
[15:19] <teachme> thanks
[15:22] <AvgvaTest> hi
[15:23] <afusa> ho
[15:24] <teachme> BluesKaj> didnt work but thanks for tryin
[15:24] <PatrickDickey> user1337: Are you asking besides the size of the installation disc, what are the differences between the desktop and server images?
[15:24] <teachme> gotta feed the dogs and ill look around more
[15:24] <BluesKaj> so what error, teachme?
[15:25] <co-XZist> hi channel
[15:25] <co-XZist> question - Is there any driver for ATI x1500 video 32bit for UBuntu 12
[15:26] <co-XZist> having a real hard time finding it
[15:26] <ibran> Does anyone know anything about setting up multiple video cards with ubuntu? It's black screening if the second card is connected
[15:26] <PatrickDickey> co-XZist: Did you check on AMD's site by chance? And is the card still supported?
[15:26] <user1337> PatrickDickey, No, I see not just the difference in size of the installation between desktop and server disk (~ 700MB for both)
[15:30] <PatrickDickey> user1337: If I had to guess, they include the desktop (Unity) bits on the server disc, but they don't install them by default. It's just a guess though, as I haven't compared the two isos.
[15:30] <ibran> user1337 what was the question?
[15:30] <ibran> i am familiar with ubuntu server edition
[15:31] <Greylocks> user1337: usually servers installs have no DE just text interface
[15:31] <user1337> Hello, I would like to know where the non-size difference between the .iso desktop and server comes. servers are not normally lighter?
[15:31] <user1337> ibran, *
[15:31] <teachme> error mounting etc/fstab
[15:31] <teachme> thats the error think its a permission thing?
[15:31] <teachme> what should permission on that file be
[15:31] <utusan> user1337: just look at the manifest file on the download page
[15:31] <ibran> im not sure why the iso size matters, its the intalled size you want. server edition doesn't install a gui as standard, that the main differece you will first notice
[15:32] <PatrickDickey> ibran: I think user1337 is asking why they're the same size, if the server is supposed to be a lighter install.
[15:32] <wilee-nilee> teachme, Mounting fstab, its a file.
[15:32] <teachme> i get error cannot mount etc/fstab hit s to skip mounting or m for recovery
[15:33] <ibran> the desktop is lighter, yea
[15:33] <teachme> if i skip it ubuntu boots up fine
[15:33] <teachme> any ideas to fix ?
[15:33] <co-XZist> yes I checke AMD
[15:33] <wilee-nilee> teachme, You sure its not a notation in fstab like a partition or swap?
[15:33] <teachme> the windows install and ubuntu are on diferent disk so i dont care if it mounts it
[15:34] <co-XZist> hold on let met tell you what I got from them
[15:34] <teachme> let me remove em all
[15:34] <teachme> clear it and try reboot
[15:34] <neta> i have a problem with my lubuntu- i just installed a lubuntu 13.04 alongside windows 7- and when i rebooted i got a black screen. now when i reboot it goes straight to the windows. the other option is to boot from the usb-stick and then i can reinstall lubuntu, and then it says that it's allready installed. using nomodeset i'm now "trying without installing". how can i use my freshly installed lubuntu?
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> teachme, don't clear fstab
[15:34] <ibran> user1337: there's additional elements in the server install that arent on the desktop one, such as a lot of the enterprise tools
[15:34] <teachme> ok
[15:34] <teachme> wanna see a pastebin of it ?
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> !fstab | teachme
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> !who | teachme
[15:35] <user1337> ibran, thank's for your help ;)
[15:36] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: I downloaded ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[15:36] <teachme> wilee-nilee wanna see a pastebin?
[15:36] <PatrickDickey> co-XZist: is that the one that they recommend? More to the point, is your card supported under linux?
[15:36] <co-XZist> when installing I get the message that its not the correct version for my system
[15:36] <wilee-nilee> teachme, You want to run sudo blkid this will give you the UUID of the partition on the HD's then open fstab and make sure they are the same.
[15:36] <user1337> last question, how many processes running on a newly installed server edition?
[15:36] <teachme> yeah i did that
[15:36] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: yes thats what they recommend
[15:36] <teachme> thats why i wondered if it was a file reading problem
[15:37] <teachme> like not reading fstab
[15:37] <ibran> so anyone know anything about multiple video cards? my system goe black screen when booting with the second card connected
[15:37] <teachme> the file itself
[15:37] <ibran> user1337: Not the sort of thing one tends to remember ... i'd recommend installing a virtual machine and exprimenting.
[15:38] <Monday> i tried making a livecd but it won't load, how do i check if the usb drive is bad?
[15:39] <wilee-nilee> Monday, A usb laoded with the iso wont boot?
[15:39] <kenshiro> Hi, is safe to add WineHQ PPA Repository to Ubuntu?
[15:39] <Monday> it will boot but it won't load, it says something can't mount
[15:39] <wilee-nilee> !PPA | kenshiro
[15:40] <PatrickDickey> co-XZist: So, you're trying to install it on Ubuntu 12.04? Or on a later version?
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> Monday, How did you put the iso on the usb, and use nicks here.
[15:40] <seetu> I am trying to fix a minor bug in ubuntu, I downloaded the source code from launchpad, but now not able to figure out the file in which I should work, Can you please help me?
[15:40] <Monday> wilee-nilee, unebootin
[15:40] <kenshiro> wilee-nilee ubottu thank you !
[15:41] <wilee-nilee> Monday, This a download of the iso with unetbootion as well, or just a load of a iso you have already?
[15:41] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: 12.04
[15:41] <Monday> i have ubuntu and used unebootin to try to make a livecd
[15:42] <Monday> i just want to check if the USB drive is broken or something
[15:42] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | Monday
[15:42] <rafaelsoaresbr> after installing fglrx from repository unity won't load. how to fix it? please,  i've tried many times.
[15:43] <teachme> i think i may have fixed my fstab file
[15:43] <seetu> Please help me
[15:44] <teachme> some how a + got in front of a # at the top of the lines
[15:44] <raptor67682> hi
[15:44] <wilee-nilee> !details | seetu
[15:44] <raptor67682> how to increqse the LCD brightness using the console?
[15:46] <PatrickDickey> co-XZist: Have you checked this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI for help, by chance?
[15:49] <abdeljalil_> hello guys
[15:49] <skorasaurus-alt> hi, this is baffling me. I'm trying to give write permissions for a user to a usb drive, while on a livecd.
[15:49] <usr13> raptor67682: Is it a laptop or desktop?
[15:50] <seetu> I am working on a minor bug in dpkg, there is an option that has become obsolete, but still it comes in bash completion, I downloaded the source code for bash-completion, but I have problem in finding out the file in which I should search for this error, What should I do sir?
[15:50] <skorasaurus-alt> i've done: sudo chown -R myusername:myusername /media/ubuntu/nitro (where the flash drive is mounted) but I receive operation not permitted.
[15:50] <usr13> raptor67682: I'm not sure you can, I've never changed LCD brightness in console mode, but if it is a laptop, you could try the F key combo.
[15:50] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: sorry no I havent
[15:51] <PatrickDickey> That might be a good start then.
[15:51] <raptor67682> usr13: it is a laptop
[15:51] <raptor67682> and in to /sys/class/backlight
[15:51] <raptor67682> there is no file
[15:51] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: What filesystem is on the USB drive?
[15:52] <skorasaurus-alt> usr13, fat32
[15:52] <ikonia> seetu: how can you possibly expect to work on an bug if you have no idea how to approach it
[15:52] <ikonia> seetu: checking the bug details in the bug report would be a good starting point
[15:52] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: THe exact message was Error:default_policy.sh does not support version
[15:53] <ikonia> it can often explain whats broken and how
[15:53] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: THe exact message was Error:default_policy.sh does not support version
[15:53] <usr13> raptor67682: That's interesting.
[15:53] <usr13> raptor67682: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[15:53] <seetu> ikonia:Thank you
[15:53] <skorasaurus-alt> it's readable on the default ubuntu use on the livecd , but I'm copying files from an encrypted hard drive to the flash drive, which requires me to be logged in as the specified user.
[15:53] <skorasaurus-alt> hence, i'm trying to give permissions to read/write flash drive for that user.
[15:53] <ibran> Does ubuntu actually support multiple video cards?
[15:53] <raptor67682> debian linux 6.... it is a armada compaq very old
[15:54] <co-XZist> default:v2:i686:lib::none:3.2.0.29-generic-pae; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[15:54] <raptor67682> I have checked into /proc/ and nothing about backlight
[15:54] <usr13> raptor67682: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[15:54] <ikonia> raptor67682: you're using debian 6 /
[15:54] <co-XZist> sorry if i sent that twice
[15:55] <mwn> I removed apache2 from my system a week ago, and installed nginx, now, whenever I boot up, nginx starts automatically and I don't want this to happen. nginx starts whenever I log in and I have to do "killall nginx" to make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?
[15:55] <PatrickDickey> co-XZist: You have to use the open-source version of the ATI Driver. The error means that the kernel is too new for the driver you're trying to install.
[15:55] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: There are no permission limits to the fat32 filesystem, so it must be the mount point has wrong permission or user.  mount |grep /dev/sd??
[15:55] <raptor67682> ikonia: well; reviving the machine or looking what is inside
[15:55] <PatrickDickey> co-XZist: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101198/what-is-this-error-when-trying-to-install-ati-video-driver
[15:55] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: In other words where is it mounted.  Issue command  mount
[15:55] <ikonia> raptor67682: ok, so #debian should be the correct channel, and you know this as you're already asking in #debian
[15:55] <co-XZist> okies will check it out ..thanks
[15:56] <ikonia> raptor67682: please keep debian questions out of this channel and in #debian, thanks
[15:56] <mwn> make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?
[15:56] <mwn> I removed apache2 from my system a week ago, and installed nginx, now, whenever I boot up, nginx starts automatically and I don't want this to happen. nginx starts whenever I log in and I have to do "killall nginx" to make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?
[15:56] <mwn> I removed apache2 from my system a week ago, and installed nginx, now, whenever I boot up, nginx starts automatically and I don't want this to happen. nginx starts whenever I log in and I have to do "killall nginx" to make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?
[15:56] <FloodBot1> mwn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <ikonia> mwn: please stop spamming
[15:57] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: In other words, you probably need to chown the mount point, but let's look and see what it is now.
[15:57] <skorasaurus-alt> usr13, http://pastebin.ca/2441275
[15:58] <raptor67682> thanks for hte debugging so my kernel has no driver for backlight
[16:00] <schultza> For mwm when he comes back. "sudo update-rc.d -f nginx disable".
[16:00] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Look at: "ls -l /media/ubuntu/nitro"  &  "ls -ld /media/ubuntu/nitro" & "ls -ld /media/ubuntu"
[16:02] <skorasaurus-alt> aha, i think i got it usr13
[16:02] <skorasaurus-alt> i tried copying my files from my encrypted drive as root to the flash drive.
[16:02] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Look at: ls -l /media/ubuntu/nitro >permissions.txt;ls -ld /media/ubuntu/nitro >>permissions.txt;ls -ld /media/ubuntu >>permissions.txt;pastebinit permissions.txt #And send URL if you need us to look too.
[16:02] <skorasaurus-alt> and wait, not working.
[16:03] <ndyakov> good day :)
[16:03] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Ok, there you go.  chown -R skorasaurus /media/ubuntu/nitro/
[16:04] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Oh, wait.  That's not it because it is fat32
[16:04] <skorasaurus-alt> usr13, right.
[16:06] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Must be the mount point
[16:06] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt:  ls -ld /media/ubuntu/nitro >permissions.txt;ls -ld /media/ubuntu >>permissions.txt;pastebinit permissions.txt #And send URL if you need us to look too.
[16:06] <skorasaurus-alt> usr13, updated the pastebin
[16:06] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Probably need to do chmod 755 /media/ubuntu;chmod 755 /media/ubuntu/nitro
[16:07] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: (Not sure why it wouldn't be correct permissons already but...)
[16:07] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: (We have now way of knowing unless you tell us.)
[16:08] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: So you are saying that that I have to use the built in driver ? Or is there another that I can install ?
[16:08] <PatrickDickey> co-XZist: If the built-in is the open source one, then that's your option. Or you have to use an older version of Ubuntu (which isn't recommended).
[16:08] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: But, why do you need users to access the files from liveCD in the first place?
[16:09] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: http://pastebin.ca/2441275 looks same as before.
[16:09] <syntac> i have two monitors, but their physical positions are different than graphical (i have to scroll to the right on my right monitor to get over to my left monitor)
[16:09] <syntac> where can i change this?
[16:09] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: But if it is one line, you can just send it here, no need for pastebin
[16:10] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: You only need pastebin if it is multiple lines or very long.
[16:10] <PatrickDickey> syntac: in Display options maybe? You should be able to choose which one is the primary monitor.
[16:10] <syntac> PatrickDickey, i'm using xmonad. in unity it works fine
[16:11] <ibran> Is anyone here using/know how to setup multiple graphics cards?
[16:11] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: If you were to tell us your end goal, we might be albe to help you better.
[16:12] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: If the goal is just to backup the files, just do it, check to make sure they are there and you are good to go, (there are no user or file permission issues on the fat32 filesystem).
[16:13] <syntac> PatrickDickey, i got it, used xrandr
[16:13] <PatrickDickey> syntac: Glad to hear that you got it worked out. Honestly, I'd never heard of xmonad until now, so now I'm looking at it.
[16:15] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: When a vfat device is mounted rw, the mount point is all that might limit access. [/FYI]
[16:15] <zykotick9> syntac: personally, i'm a fan of arandr for a fairly light gui front end to xrandr
[16:17] <grakovne> Morning!
[16:18] <InterWeb> What is best editor for python ?
[16:18] <sam113101> vim
[16:18] <map> i lie nano
[16:19] <teliov19> komodo is good
[16:19] <ibran> InterWeb: define best
[16:19] <map> although noone else seems to
[16:19] <grakovne> Geany anyway!
[16:19] <ibran> InterWeb: do you need things like autocompletion ?
[16:19] <map> ah
[16:19] <map> basic editor wont do that
[16:20] <InterWeb> irban , yes
[16:20] <map> What about kate - i used to like that
[16:20] <map> dunno if it's still included in KDE? although this is gnome version
[16:20] <PatrickDickey> I'd say it depends on what you're doing. Komodo is good, but if I remember right, it's not free. Otherwise any text editor will do the job.
[16:20] <map> used to use Kate for writing code at uni
[16:21] <ibran> InterWeb: pycharm seems popular. it has autocomplete, integrated debugger and it can also read and autocomplete your database schema. Are you after a full IDE or just an editor?
[16:21]  * PatrickDickey uses nano with code highlighting, gedit, or notepad++ in wine.
[16:21] <map> ya i like notepad++
[16:21] <map> i like nano whys everyone love vim so much?
[16:21] <jarope> hi all wonder if I could get some help
[16:21] <jarope> I am running saucy and seem to have a xorg/nvidia issue
[16:22] <grakovne> notepad++ is not GNU way. Why not vim or geany?
[16:22] <teliov19> there is  a free version of komodo (komodo edit),
[16:22] <teliov19> vim is cool tho
[16:22] <ibran> notepad++ is open source
[16:22] <InterWeb> Is there anything to add auto-completion to vim ?
[16:22] <teliov19> that would be nice, auto complete to vim'
[16:22] <ibran> in fact i think npp is gnu licenced? not sure on that though. i think it uses the same editor lib that sublime is based on
[16:22] <jarope> I think the problem is I ran nvidia-settings and after reboot just get either the low graphics mode box OR can login but get just a black screen.  this is what I have at the moment using ctl+alt+_t still boots the terminal
[16:23] <jarope> and from there I was able to run xchat
[16:23] <map> so why no nano again why just vim
[16:23] <grakovne> Nowhy. If you like it - use it
[16:24] <InterWeb> map , Does it have auto-complection?
[16:24] <ibran> map: Nano's OK but lacks some of the advanced features of vim. also vim is part of all *nix distros so you wont ever not have it. Of course, use wahtever editor you prefer
[16:24] <jarope> I am guessing I need to remove xorg.conf or similar? but not sure as in X11 there are only the .backup and .failsafe files
[16:24] <POVaddct> InterWeb: try ctrl-p and ctrl-n in vim while typing a word
[16:25] <ibran> nano doesnt have a repl though, that's a problem for me. i need a repl.
[16:25] <PatrickDickey> InterWeb: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=850 pydiction maybe? (Autocompletion for python in vim)
[16:25] <InterWeb> PatrickDickey, Thank you
[16:25] <InterWeb> POVaddct, Thank you
[16:25] <PatrickDickey> InterWeb: No problem.
[16:25] <ibran> well i dont "need" a repl but it slows me up a lot, missing it
[16:26] <PatrickDickey> vim is old-school (because it's basically always been around).
[16:27] <jhutchins> WTF is a "repl"?
[16:28] <jarope_> so any saucy graphics ppl able to help?
[16:28] <ibran> jhutchins: read eval print loop i.e. interpreter. e.g. C++ repl makes wriign c++ easier for me, etc
[16:28] <usr13> map: notepad?  I don't know about that, (most of us here are Ubuntu users).  As to the nano vs vim, well, it's a matter of opinion, some think nano is more user friendly, others think vi is more feature rich and so it's just a matter of opinion.
[16:28] <PatrickDickey> jarope_: You probably want the #ubuntu+1 channel for saucy questions.
[16:28] <jarope_> PatrickDickey, thanks
[16:29] <map> yea someone else said notepad++ using wine
[16:29] <jhutchins> ibran: 'splains why I don't recognize it.  I did a lot of my programming on punch cards.
[16:29] <InterWeb> How do I can add interpreter to vim ?
[16:29] <map> ;]
[16:29] <jhutchins> InterWeb: You may be interested in emacs.  I believe it has those options.
[16:29] <bl4ckdu5t> when I do pm-hibernate most times and I turn my PC back on, it takes time for it to be accessible
[16:30] <dr_willis> emacs has everything.
[16:30] <usr13> map: I use vi / vim  and am quite happy with it, don't need notepad but am not opposed to nano either.
[16:30] <zykotick9> PatrickDickey: re:vim, actually vi is part of POSIX so it's on every "unix-like" system, emacs is not.  but yes, it's been around forever too ;)
[16:30] <jhutchins> bl4ckdu5t: Are you suspending to disk?
[16:30] <InterWeb> jhutchins, I read somewhere that It is hard to learn :/
[16:30] <map> ah
[16:30] <map> i always preferred nano
[16:30] <map> guess its just preference
[16:31] <usr13> map: vimtutor may change your mind.
[16:31] <AvgvaTest> hi
[16:31]  * zykotick9 +1 on "vimtutuor" tutorial.
[16:31] <dr_willis> nano is a pen-knife     vi is a big  swiss army knife
[16:31] <gordonjcp> ed is the standard editor!
[16:31] <map> zzz almost work time sheesh
[16:31] <dr_willis> emacs is the kitchen silverware and junk drawer
[16:31] <PatrickDickey> I agree map. I like the simplicity of moving the cursor and then editing the line that nano has. I'm sure there are ways to make vim work like that, but it's standard in nano.
[16:32] <gordonjcp> jhutchins: punch cards, y'say
[16:32] <gordonjcp> jhutchins: which machine?
[16:32] <usr13> good analogy dr_willis
[16:32] <map> ya the simplicity is for me :)
[16:32] <InterWeb> another thing , I wanted to install pydictaion for vim but I can't find vimrc file , Where is that on ubuntu?
[16:32] <dr_willis> !info fte
[16:32] <gordonjcp> I use gedit for pretty much everything these days
[16:33] <Obi1> hello
[16:33] <dr_willis> InterWeb:   use      locate vimrc
[16:33] <PatrickDickey> InterWeb: It's in your home directory. the filename is .vimrc (if you've created one).
[16:33] <zykotick9> InterWeb: try ~/.vimrc it might not be there by default?
[16:33] <dr_willis> system wide  in /etc/  id say
[16:34] <InterWeb> that is not in my home folder ,
[16:34]  * PatrickDickey thankfully I never had to deal with punch cards. But I've heard enough horror stories about them from COBOL instructors...
[16:34] <InterWeb> I have just .vim in my home
[16:34] <Obi1> how can I install Gnome 2.0  desktop on 12.04 ubuntu
[16:34] <dr_willis> each user can have a.   .vimrc
[16:34] <PatrickDickey> InterWeb: You can create one then.
[16:35] <ibran> well assembler is mostly similiar to punch cards, not sure why there are so many horror stories.
[16:35] <dr_willis> Obi1:  use the classic mode stuff
[16:35] <dr_willis> !nounity
[16:35] <InterWeb> PatrickDickey, I have a .vimrc in my etc/vim , Do I need to creat another one in home ?
[16:35] <PatrickDickey> InterWeb: nope. copy that one to your home, and edit it to whatever you need.
[16:36] <PatrickDickey> ibran: The horror stories were things like having 50 punch cards, and dropping them while you're walking down the hall.
[16:36] <Obi1> hi willis
[16:36] <usr13> Obi1: Ever tried xfce?
[16:36] <zykotick9> InterWeb: i hope your /etc/vim/vimrc is better then mine... (it might be! different systems)
[16:37] <usr13> Obi1: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   #Try it, you'll like it.
[16:37] <PatrickDickey> Obi1:  Or LXDE (lubuntu-desktop)?
[16:37] <ibran> PatrickDickey: They get mixed up? Wsa it possible to label them with a pen?
[16:37] <Obi1> i did try  all i love gnome 2.0
[16:37] <dr_willis> gnome 2 is dead.
[16:37] <PatrickDickey> ibran: That's the suggestion the instructor made. Draw a diagonal line across the top of the cards. That way if you drop them, you can put them back in order.
[16:38] <dr_willis> theres fallback/vlassic modes or other desktops to try
[16:38] <jhutchins> gordonjcp: Y'know, I'm not entirely sure.  Pretty sure we fed some to a 370, but the one that did Fortran I don't even remember if I knew.
[16:38] <ibran> so these were horror stories about human laziness or incompetence, rather than actul punchcard tech?
[16:38] <usr13> Obi1: gnome 2 is no more.  Try xfce
[16:39] <usr13> Obi1: What do you mean, you did try all?
[16:39] <zykotick9> Obi1: gnome2 is "dead", move on...
[16:39] <PatrickDickey> ibran: If I remember right, sometimes it was hit and miss whether they worked. If the card punching machine didn't punch the holes completely, you could have issues. Or just the fact that if you had an error in your program, you had to repunch every card.
[16:39] <Obi1> i don't like xfce , KDE, Cinamon is ok
[16:40] <ibran> pucgcards before my time. i started with 28 inch disks and tape drives
[16:40] <PatrickDickey> Obi1: You could always use something like Unity with Docky.
[16:40] <zykotick9> Obi1: <ot> i "feel" ya!  gnome2 was my fav DE of all times.  i'm sad about it too, but i've moved on.  you should as well ;)
[16:40] <ibran> however i do build mechanical memory circuits in minecraft, which are basically gigantic jacard looms ;-)
[16:41] <Obi1> UNITY is the worst desktop evoroment to tell some1 to switch from Windows is hard for windows user to work on it
[16:41] <PatrickDickey> ibran: Everything I had to do was all on a mainframe. So, I just started with a dumb terminal. Well except for the AppleSoft BASIC stuff. That was done with 3.5" floppies and 5 1/4" floppies.
[16:41] <Obi1> i help people to switch to Linux
[16:41] <dr_willis> so do i. most have no issues with unity here.
[16:41] <dr_willis> or i set them up with lubuntu
[16:42] <skorasaurus-alt> hi usr13, back, I had to help out my dad for a few minutes. my current hard drive, encrypted with ecryptfs , is beginning to fail, it has a couple hundred bad sectors.
[16:42] <ibran> I know i asked before but that was 1/2 hour ago: does anyone know how to get multiple graphics cards working with ubuntu?
[16:42] <PatrickDickey> Obi1:  Then have them try LXDE. It's almost the exact same look as XP's Classic (or Vista and 7's Classic).
[16:42] <skorasaurus-alt> unfortunately, my backup drive was last backed up about a couple weeks ago.
[16:42] <skorasaurus-alt> and there are a few files on my hard drive that I'd like to rescue which were recently modified.
[16:42] <jhutchins> "Smart" guys didn't number their card because that gave them extra space for code.  Eventually they got dropped, and they discovered that numbering was worth the loss of space.  I did Fortran, Cobol, and RPG II/III on them.
[16:42] <skorasaurus-alt> (firefox profile, etc).
[16:42] <ikonia> ibran: in what way "get working"
[16:42] <dr_willis> ibran:  optimus stuff? or 2 seperate cards in a desktop?
[16:42] <Obi1> brb
[16:42] <jhutchins> Actually, COBOL had just moved off of them but it's still a positional language.
[16:43] <ibran> ikonia: black screen if the second card is inserted. it starts up fine but when gdm? lightdm? (dont remember which one ubuntu uses) screen goes back
[16:44] <jhutchins> ibran: You mean multi-monitor, or laptop multi-drive intel/radeon?
[16:44] <skorasaurus-alt> so, unfortunately, with ecryptfs, I have to use the same user name to access the files which created under that user.
[16:44] <ikonia> ibran: how are you trying to use them, seperate cards, sli/x-fire, etc etc
[16:44] <nabblet> hi, how can i change that grey loging background in ubuntu 12.10?
[16:44] <ibran> jhutchins: I mean the machine has two identical nvidia graphics cards
[16:44] <ibran> ikonia: it's an SLI configuration
[16:44] <skorasaurus-alt> so, under livecd, I created the same user name, I have access to the files.
[16:44] <ikonia> ibran: that's not going to work
[16:45] <nabblet> i tried different solutions, but they didn't get me any further
[16:45] <skorasaurus-alt> but I need to copy them to another drive but that is where i'm stuck.
[16:45] <ibran> ikonia: Ubuntu doesn't support SLI?
[16:45] <ikonia> ibran: linux doesn't really - nvidia keep trying to add/update it in the propritary drivers, but it really causes too many problems
[16:46] <PatrickDickey> skorasaurus-alt: Have you tried chrooting into the installation on the hard drive?
[16:46] <PatrickDickey> skorasaurus-alt: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/ (not exactly your situation, but it could work)
[16:47] <ibran> ikonia: Do you know of any good resources used by tinkerers who are prepared to invest some time into fiddlign with their systems to get that working?
[16:47] <jhutchins> ibran: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53966
[16:47] <jhutchins> ibran: Incompatible with unity and some other DEs.
[16:47] <skorasaurus-alt> PatrickDickey, intersting, i have not.
[16:47] <skorasaurus-alt> i'll look into it.
[16:48] <PatrickDickey> skorasaurus-alt: It's worth a read, if nothing else. I've had to do it to update different operating systems on my computer before (Fedora from Ubuntu, etc).
[16:48] <ibran> jhutchins: this link says it is dual screen (dual head), i am wanting single screen with 2 cards (for 3d grpahics  performance) - would this link be relevant?
[16:51] <dr_willis> arch linux wiki may have some sli information
[16:51] <ibran> dr_willis: thanks will look
[16:52] <dr_willis> i dont find sli worth the effort. ;-)
[16:53] <jhutchins> ibran: I know of no condition where that works.
[16:54] <jhutchins> ibran: ... except of course SLI.
[16:55] <ibran> jhutchins: Yes it is SLI. works fine on windows . however  i guess linux driver support isn't quite as good. I'll ask around on the nvidia forums.
[16:59] <mydog2> hi.. trying to connect to an ubuntu server to do a scp copying from a fedora to the ubuntu..
[16:59] <mydog2> is this the "right" irc for questions..
[16:59] <mydog2> i can ssh into the box..
[16:59] <mydog2> when i scp, i get a lost connection
[17:00] <mydog2> the ubuntu is running on a vm
[17:02] <neta> how can i install steam in lubuntu? i don't find it in the softwer center
[17:03] <martinfletcher> Hey all
[17:04] <martinfletcher> I am currently having trouble installing Ubuntu 13 .04 on my desktop
[17:04] <ARW0> what the prob ?
[17:04] <sethj> grahamsavage, did you ever get your problem resolved?
[17:05] <martinfletcher> I am in live cd modem to eval 13.04 but only a black screen and mouse pointer is displayed
[17:05] <ARW0> martinfletcher: what graphic card you have ?
[17:05] <kostkon> neta, it should be there. if not, in software centre, select Edit -> Software Sources, then in the 3rd party software tab enable the Partner repository and try again.
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | martinfletcher
[17:06] <martinfletcher> I have googled the hell out of it and it appears to be a compiz error, although I have never heard of this so not quite sure
[17:07] <linuxuz3r> how do i update gnome 3 installation
[17:08] <jhutchins> ibran: I know there's a lot of work done using ganged GPUs in Linux, but it's mostly specialty stuff where a team is writing their own code for a specific project.
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> linuxguy101, to what?
[17:08] <martinfletcher> ARW0: nvidia GeForce fx 5200
[17:08] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, i have gnome 3 install i dont know the exact version but it gives me minor problems
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> martinfletcher, check the nomodeset link.
[17:09] <linuxuz3r> im just wondering how to update my gnome 3 installation
[17:09] <ibran> martinfletcher: that card will need nomodeset, see the link from wilee-nilee
[17:09] <AvgvaTest> hi
[17:09] <ibran> martinfletcher: BTW it's a dark purple screen not a black one ;-)
[17:09] <martinfletcher> Looking now
[17:09] <martinfletcher> Mine is black
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> linuxguy101, Did you install the gnome-shell, this is ubuntu right?
[17:10] <AvgvaTest> hi
[17:10] <kostkon> !hi | AvgvaTest
[17:10] <kostkon> damn
[17:10] <jhutchins> ibran: DreamWorks and Pixar both render on Linux.
[17:10] <kostkon> :/
[17:11] <kostkon> jhutchins, and weta
[17:12] <ibran> jhutchins: thanks for trying to help, much appreciated. however probaby want to be looking at SLI not Gpu Computing
[17:12] <AvgvaTest> hi
[17:13] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, yes i installed gnome-shell
[17:13] <linuxuz3r> i think its more then gnomeshell thats the problem
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, Ubuntu? What release, and did you add a PPA, three questions here.
[17:14] <linuxuz3r> its not a ppa
[17:14] <linuxuz3r> 12.04
[17:14] <linuxuz3r> im still supported right
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, I can't help you, your not reading these questions.
[17:14] <kostkon> linuxuz3r, yes. even if you have added a ppa
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> kostkon, PPA's are not supported here.
[17:15] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, said who?
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> !ppa
[17:15] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, probably you are misreading the "unsupported third-party packages"
[17:15] <linuxuz3r> whats the name of the command that upgrades a certain package
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, There ia not one per-say, you just run regular updates
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> is*
[17:16] <linuxuz3r> oh
[17:16] <linuxuz3r> so apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, yes
[17:18] <linuxuz3r> ok booting to ubuntu now
[17:22] <Dakota> i am at the end of my rope with libvirt-dnsmasq. how do i get it the heck off of port 53 so i can run nsd?
[17:22] <mkanyicy> q
[17:23] <Dakota> no matter what i change its either binding to port 53 or port 22... both of which are not negotiable
[17:25] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, im dist upgrading
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, Meaning using dist-upgrade?
[17:28] <dennis> Hello everybody, how can I make script that presses return and nothing else?
[17:33] <PatrickDickey> dennis, why do you want a script that presses return?
[17:34] <dennis> PatrickDickey: I have a button here that works as a tiny keyboard: it presses the superkey+R and then ecobutton
[17:35] <dennis> It's a Windows thingey that let your PC go in a deep standby with a press on the button
[17:36] <dennis> I want to trigger the 'Run program' utility in xfce to trigger a script called Ecobutton to let that script press return
[17:37] <dennis> Because I find the return key an 'activation' key and I would like to trigger it from a big button
[17:37] <PatrickDickey> Interesting. So, basically your button would call the script, and it would put your computer into standby mode?
[17:38] <dennis> PatrickDickey: Yes
[17:38] <dennis> But I want it for other purposes
[17:38] <Gorrtack> Hi all
[17:38] <dennis> But I guess you don know how to write the script... :D
[17:38] <Gorrtack> are there any alternatives for sam broadcaster in Ubuntu?
[17:39] <PatrickDickey> Nope. Sorry. I thought maybe I'd be able to give you an alternative to that though. You might want to check in the #bash channel if you're looking for a bash script to do it, or #python if you want it in python.
[17:40] <dennis> Gorrtack: http://alternativeto.net/software/sam-broadcaster/
[17:40] <nzdreamer> Hello everyone.  I'm looking for support after trying a live usb ubuntu Linux distro and now am having trouble booting back into windows 8.
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> nzdreamer, Did you change anything in the bios?
[17:42] <dennis> wilee-nilee: I don't want to be over-preceise, but Win8 pc's run on EFI
[17:42] <Gorrtack> dennis: thank u. I tried to configure IDJC, but can't link pulseaudio with jackd =(
[17:42] <nzdreamer> Thanks for the reply.  I have a machine with a UEFI bios.  I used the boot manager at start up to select the usb drive and selected the UEFI portion to start ubuntu
[17:43] <dennis> Gorrtack: Ask in ubuntu_studio
[17:43] <kostkon> Gorrtack, check out AirTime
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> nzdreamer, W8 has a hybrid hibernate, did you shutdown completely to get to this boot manager?
[17:43] <Gorrtack> kostkon: AirTime? What is this?
[17:43] <dennis> Gorrtack: I had a problem with recording sound and they gave me a lot of hints
[17:44] <kostkon> Gorrtack, radio management and broadcasting app.
[17:44] <linuxuz3r> gnome becomes unresponsive if i click on an icon it takes a while to get highlighted. and when i switch to a different window it takes a while to get focus. how do i fix this?
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, Is the hardware up to the task of running ubuntu?
[17:45] <kostkon> Gorrtack, another easy option is mixxx. it supports broadcasting over the net
[17:45] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, yes
[17:46] <nzdreamer> Yes I have tried to start using several different ways (restart, turn off computer completely, turn of completely and pull the plug) but none of them seem to launch windows correctly.  I will get the Auto repair and have tried all the options including advanced options.  I have even rebuilt the MBR and run chech disk.
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, You have the correct graphic drivers?
[17:46] <Gorrtack> kostkon: that's what I need! broatcast my skype, player and microphone to the remote Icecast2 server
[17:47] <PatrickDickey> nzdreamer: So you installed ubuntu then?
[17:48] <neopsyche> hi. can anyone help me rsync server?
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> nzdreamer, What I wonder is if you shutdown completelt to run the ubuntu if you had it in this hibernate that would be a problem, and actually since you have not installed ubuntu just booted it this is a windows problem, so you might ask on ##windows as well.
[17:48] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, yes do i need to upgrade the graphics drivers
[17:48] <neopsyche> not sure on some commands.. im a windoze refugee
[17:49] <neopsyche> found tutorial http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-use-rsync-transfer-mirror-files-directories.html
[17:49] <neopsyche> also.. how to remote ssh from linux? in windows I use putty
[17:49] <dennis> I just made a script in the path /bin/ecobutton, but when I enter the command ecobutton, the terminal says '-bash: /bin/ecobutton: Access denied'
[17:49] <sam113101> neopsyche: using ssh
[17:49] <dennis> neopsyche: type ssh in terminal
[17:49] <neopsyche> ok..
[17:49] <neopsyche> can I rsync?
[17:50] <ocooel> Looking for help regarding upgrade to 12.04.3 + 13.04 HWE.
[17:50] <suhas_> hiii guys
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, upgrade meaning, what you have is maybe the problem and your sure, or a guess, it helps if we know your reasoning.
[17:50] <suhas_> hii
[17:51] <neopsyche> ssh says no route to host
[17:51] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, a guess
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, you have to go through 12.10 basically, the nupgrade manager will do it if you go to the software sources and set it to all upgrades
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, 12.04 is supported till 2017 though are you sure this is the best plan?
[17:53] <ocooel> wilee-nilee: Doesn't it just upgrade the kernel from 3.5 to 3.8..?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, No, apps will be upgraded and the system in places, and the support time changes
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, the kernel will go to 3.8 yes.
[17:55] <nzdreamer> Oh interesting though about booting from a hyb state to run ubuntu from a live USB...
[17:55] <nzdreamer> What can I check to see if this was the case?
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> nzdreamer, I would ask in ##windows this is a windows issue really, you have to be registered with freenode though I believe.
[17:57] <kostkon> ocooel, instructions are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[17:57] <neopsyche> dennis: no route to host
[17:57] <ocooel> wilee-nilee: that sux.
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> nzdreamer, If someone knows here they will probably answer, I would just like to see you get the best help is all.
[17:57] <kostkon> ocooel, you don't need to dist upgrade. just check the wiki page
[17:57] <dennis> neopsyche: I only have little knowledge about ssh. Try the channel #ssh
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, This is nothing new, has been this way since the first release.
[17:59] <nzdreamer> Thank you for the help.  I will try to find my answers at ##windows.  Good bye
[17:59] <nzdreamer> exit
[18:00] <Willdude123> How could I set up something to stream torrents downloaded via transmission web interface to VLC medía player on my PC (using my ubuntu server)
[18:00] <ocooel> kostkon: I've read this. It's where I got the info from. There are no instructions on how to install manually. It says it's not available just through upgrades. This is what I need instruction on
[18:00] <Willdude123> Doesn't have to be automatic
[18:00] <ocooel> kostkon: It's not as simple as running linux-headers-generic-lts-raring etc, is it..?
[18:01] <kostkon> ocooel, it says "For example to install the Quantal hardware enablement packages in Precise, please run the following command:" etc, replace quantal with raring
[18:02] <kostkon> ocooel, it is. what else would you need?
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, You want to notice the warnings on the ennoblement stack, read very carefully.
[18:02] <anonymousX7X> quit
[18:03] <sere> is it possible to a playlist sync rhythmbox or banshee with a andriod phonein ubuntu 12.4.3? i can mount it it and get rhythmbox to see it but it wont sync for some reason
[18:03] <ocooel> kostkon: That is all. Will raring supersede precise..?
[18:03] <kostkon> ocooel, it will update your grub automatically
[18:03] <kostkon> ocooel, yes
[18:03] <Willdude123> So I want to stream downloaded torrents to VLC
[18:04] <ocooel> kostkon: Meaning I lose the point of having precise..?
[18:04] <PatrickDickey> Willdude123: have you looked into something like mdlna? (might be spelled a bit differently)
[18:04] <Willdude123> Might do. VLC might be able to run headlessly.
[18:04] <kostkon> ocooel, you still have precise, but with the updated kernel and X. that is all
[18:04] <linuxuz3r> for future reference does official upgrade breaks your ubuntu installation?
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, So what is your reasoning on the raring kernel needs?
[18:05] <PatrickDickey> linuxuz3r: It shouldn't. But if you're upgrading a system that doesn't meet the hardware requirements, it might.
[18:06] <ocooel> wilee-nilee: Odd number kernel versions are experimental and even one are stable.
[18:06] <Ampelbein> linuxuz3r: In very rare cases, updates have been breaking existing installations. But the issue were always detected very fast and either the upgrades pulled or a fix issued.
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, Really I have been using ubuntu for 8 years and never heard that, source please.
[18:08] <PatrickDickey> wilee-nilee: I've seen that on some kernel forums. But, I think it's more the minor build number than anything else.
[18:08] <xyz123> is there such an online tool which will calculate and tell you what partition is going to be what size based on your hd size?
[18:08] <xyz123> :)
[18:08] <seventhsamuari> Hi I'm looking for a good youtube tutorial on the terminal for beginners
[18:08] <dman777_alter> does the Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) support ecc ssh keys by default installation?
[18:08] <seventhsamuari> i need to modify my gurb
[18:08] <seventhsamuari> *grub
[18:09] <BluesKaj> ocooel, , that's a new one on me too , never heard that ever mentioned about stable/unstable kernel numbers before , can you give us the source of your info ?
[18:09] <Ampelbein> wilee-nilee: It's been changed in 2004, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning#Odd-numbered_versions_for_development_releases
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> PatrickDickey, Sounds like opinions, and not hardly factual
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> Ampelbein, Between the 1.0 and the 2.6.x series,
[18:10] <Ampelbein> wilee-nilee: Yes.
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> Ampelbein, hardly relevant
[18:10] <silvia> Alguien habla español ?
[18:10] <IdleOne> !es
[18:11] <Ampelbein> wilee-nilee: Well, the kernel *USED* that versioning scheme, sorry for trying to give you information.
[18:11] <silvia> Ok thanks
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> Ampelbein, Did this help the user of just confuse issues.
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> or*
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> the kernels in ubuntu are modified anyway
[18:12] <pfifo> hinguys
[18:12] <Ampelbein> wilee-nilee: You said you never heard the odd-even versioning scheme, I just wanted to show you that the kernel used to use it. Forgive me.
[18:12] <PatrickDickey> http://www.linfo.org/kernel_version_numbering.html It used to be this way (odd numbers are development) but not anymore.
[18:13] <seventhsamuari> is there a ubuntu channel specifically for beginners?
[18:13] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, thanks its working now
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> seventhsamuari, used to be it is here now.
[18:14] <linuxuz3r> i fixed the problem
[18:14] <seventhsamuari> wilee-nilee, thanks i am looking for a good video tutorial on the terminal for beginners
[18:14] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, thanks
[18:14] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, thanks
[18:14] <linuxuz3r> you should say np
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, This reasong is not correct and leaves you vulnerable to breaking the setup and not getting support, just a heads up is all.
[18:15] <sere> is it possible to a playlist sync rhythmbox or banshee with a andriod phonein ubuntu 12.4.3? i can mount it it and get rhythmbox to see it but it wont sync for some reason
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> sere, Works in 13.04 with rhythmbox just setting the edit-preferences-music-music files are located in.
[18:19] <dman777_alter> i gues that is a no
[18:19] <pfifo> DNS setup is such bullcrap lately
[18:20] <sere> wilee-nilee: i tried it on my 13.04 box but getting the same errors.. did you have to set up any udev rules?
[18:20] <ocooel> kostkon, wilee-nilee, even when checking kernel.org the stable versions are all even and EOL or rc are odd
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> seventhsamuari, Not sure on videos, there are beginners books, I forget the exact names though.
[18:21] <PatrickDickey> seventhsamuari: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Using+the+terminal+in+linux
[18:21] <Ampelbein> ocooel: The next stable kernel will be 3.11
[18:21] <PatrickDickey> The first one says it's a beginners video.
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> sere, Nope but it may depend on the android version, I suspect, not sure of the problem.
[18:21] <seventhsamuari> PatrickDickey, thanks!
[18:21] <PatrickDickey> seventhsamuari: no problem.
[18:21] <dman777_alter> hey, how come the open ssh that comes with ubuntu does not have ecc but there is a utility called seccure that does?
[18:22] <ikonia> dman777_alter: ecc as in error correction ?
[18:22] <dman777_alter> ikonia: no, elliptic curve crypto
[18:22] <ocooel> Ampelbein: Can't see 3.8 there anyway. Maybe it's not worth updating HWE and just upgrade 14.04
[18:23] <sere> wilee-nilee: i can mount it if i choose to open folder so i was thinking it wasnt a udev issue.. here are the error i have been getting.. if you dont mind checking it out http://paste.ubuntu.com/6048617/
[18:23] <ikonia> dman777_alter: is there a reason it should be inluded ? is it a build time option or a module you can bolt on (I'm not aware of it)
[18:24] <ikonia> ocooel: why are you trying to change your kernel version ?
[18:24] <kostkon> ocooel, the raring hwe will install 3.8 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-generic-lts-raring
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> sere, Hw are you getting the phone to show on 12.04 I had to add a ppa to see a mtp device?
[18:26] <kostkon> ocooel, if you download 12.04.3 and do a fresh install you'll get 3.8 anyway.
[18:27] <ocooel> kostkon: That's what I'm trying to do without the fresh install part.
[18:27] <kostkon> ocooel, then.... just.... do it.....
[18:27] <Ampelbein> dman777_alter: "ssh-keygen -t ecdsa -b 521" works here on Ubuntu, what ECC support are you missing?
[18:27] <kostkon> ocooel, instructions are there. just replace "quantal" with "raring"
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> sere, gMTP did see it but not very useful
[18:28] <ikonia> Ampelbein: ah, so it's just one of the cyphers
[18:29] <ocooel> Thanks.
[18:29] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Yes, it's ECDSA is one of the possible cyphers to use with ECC.
[18:30] <ikonia> Ampelbein: so a simple build time option, that from your test, is enabled
[18:31] <balrog000> hello guys i'm just new on ubuntu and i search a very easy tutorial to make a vpn connection please (sorry for my english)
[18:32] <ikonia> !vpn | balrog000
[18:32] <sere> wilee-nilee: it just worked out of the box.. but i would get some of those mounting errors when i loaded rhythmbox or banshee... i installed mtp-tools to try mtp-detect to trouble shoot and it will see it but i get PTP_ERROR_IO: failed to open session, trying again after resetting USB interface
[18:32] <aggro> When I gave command 'dhclient eth2', my screen went black and two lights on keyboard started blinking and I had to give hardware reset...  Any suggestions how to fix the network connection?
[18:33] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Yes, for ecdsa, but I don't know what dman777_alter is looking for exactl.y
[18:33] <ikonia> I thought all cyphers where enabled by default upstream from debian....
[18:38] <aggro> Perhaps I should ask something more simple... in which files does Ubuntu store network configuration?
[18:40] <Ampelbein> aggro: If you are using NetworkManager: In /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[18:40] <hdon> aggro, check man 5 network
[18:40] <SirCmpwn> what is the default system font
[18:40] <hdon> aggro, sorry man 5 interfaces
[18:41] <hdon> SirCmpwn, define "system font"
[18:41] <hdon> SirCmpwn, you mean in the VT?
[18:41] <SirCmpwn> VT?
[18:41] <SirCmpwn> I mean the font used on window decorations and menus and such
[18:41] <Ampelbein> hdon: interfaces doesn't apply when NM is being used.
[18:42] <john-locke__> installed ubuntu on win8 machine, loaded from cd drv etc & install went ok. on bootup no choice for ubuntu seen, goes str8 to win8. Any ideas??
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> SirCmpwn, There not all the same. Is it where do I go to change them?
[18:42] <SirCmpwn> no
[18:42] <SirCmpwn> I use arch and I'm looking for a font with good unicode support. I figured whatever ubuntu used was probably fine
[18:42] <co-XZist> Ampelbein: There's nothing in that folder
[18:43] <aggro> Ampelbein: I have eth1 there, but ifconfig shows only eth2... and I don't even know where eth0 is
[18:43] <MooreJohn90> Hi Everybody. I have EVDO usb modem. I want to make a phone call via usb modem. Is it possible? The simcard that I am going to use is the mobile phone sim card.
[18:44] <dman777_alter> Ampelbein: oh, i seee. i was trying ecc instead of ecdsa
[18:44] <dman777_alter> Ampelbein: thanks
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> !font
[18:45] <gordonjcp> jhutchins: my MicroVAX II and PDP11 are probably too modern for you ;-)
[18:45] <aggro> hdon: /etc/network/interfaces contains only "lo"
[18:45] <MooreJohn90> Hi Everybody. I have EVDO usb modem. I want to make a phone call via usb modem. Is it possible? The simcard that I am going to use is the mobile phone sim card.
[18:45] <nooboontoo>  hi, is this the right channel for troubleshooting questions?
[18:46] <co-XZist> MooreJohn90:  not sure about the EVDO modem but I used minicom to make calls from my built in modem
[18:46] <co-XZist> your usb device should show up in /dev
[18:47] <terahert> What is the prefered way of setting up as new user and changing it's shell in ubuntu?  Normally I just adduser, then useruser to the sudo group. then do chsh as that user to change. Is this the correct way? Because we all know Ubuntu for whatever reason uses dash instead of bash by default (although bash is included in the default install), and I w
[18:47] <terahert> ant to setup a new user to experiment with zsh. Would thos be the correct method for ubuntu?
[18:47] <terahert> s/thos/this
 What kind of AT command should i use?
[18:48] <PatrickDickey> nooboontoo: yes this is the right channel for troubleshooting.
[18:48] <co-XZist> MooreJohn90: well once you configure minicom to use your USB device (ttyUSB somenumber)... if u wish to use AT then it's ATD(phonenumber) T
[18:48] <Ampelbein> terahert: Eh, dash is only used for non-interactive shells by default. Bash should still be the login shell for new users.
[18:49] <co-XZist> MooreJohn90: example ATD1234567 T
[18:49] <nooboontoo> PatrickDickey: cool, i'm basically having this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/160048/how-to-force-ubuntu-to-access-the-internet-only-through-a-vpn-and-disable-it-whe
[18:49] <MooreJohn90> Hi, Is AT command for GSM the same as CDMA?
[18:50] <nooboontoo> tried the answer but can't get it to work
[18:50] <terahert> Ampelbein:regardless, that doesn't answer me question
[18:51] <terahert> Is that the proper way to go about creating a new user and making it's default shell zsh in ubuntu?
[18:51] <Ampelbein> terahert: You can simply pass --shell to adduser
[18:51] <MooreJohn90> Because, I got error when I tried with this command to send message "AT+CMGW="+85291234567"
[18:52] <terahert> thats fine, but the user was already made, if you just read my question...
[18:52] <terahert> forget it.... I'll just use my tried and true method.
[18:53] <Ampelbein> terahert: You said " to setup a new user to experiment with zsh" . That implied to me you were creating, well, a new user.
[18:53] <co-XZist> MooreJohn90: I know there is the extended AT for GSM not sure if the same for CDMA
[18:53] <co-XZist> didu just try the one i stated
[18:53] <MooreJohn90> Thank you
[18:53] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I encrypt my email account, specially my gmail account?
[18:54] <mojtaba> I am using thunderbird in ubuntu
[18:55] <Guest25054> use encrypted mesages in thunderbird
[18:55] <Ampelbein> terahert: But if you want to change an existing user: "sudo chsh -s /bin/zsh $USER"
[18:55] <mojtaba> Guest25054: Could you please give me a tutorial link?
[18:55] <terahert> otr just su to the user
[18:55] <terahert> and use chsh
[18:55] <OerHeks> mojtaba, easy http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Email-Encryption-in-Ubuntu with thunderbird as example
[18:55] <sere> wilee-nilee: i think it might be a mounting issue.. gvfs-mount -l shows   Mount(0): SAMSUNG_Android -> gphoto2://[usb:001,040]/.. not sure why its being mounted as gphoto2..what program did you use to mount youys
[18:56] <mojtaba> OerHeks: Thanks
[18:56] <terahert> Anyways, all is good now. Thanks for verifying my thoughts
[18:56] <co-XZist> YOu want to encrypt ur inbox or messages going in and out :S
[18:56] <OerHeks> mojtaba, might want to read this too > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[18:56] <mojtaba> the other question is that, how can I change my name in this chat room? currently it shows to me my name is adam; but it is shown to you it is mojtaba
[18:57] <terahert> username and realname are not the same as nickname
[18:57] <sere> wilee-nilee: its also mounting it twice..hmm
[18:57] <schultza> mojtaba... use "/nick <inputyournamehere>"
[18:57] <terahert> if you want to change the nickname, the name that shows in the chatroom, use /nick newnamehere
[18:57] <mojtaba> schultza: thank you
[18:57] <bazzer> on precise i just booted with a max_loop=64 to give me more loop devices and loopback mounted 16 iso images, now a pid belonging to gvfs-gdu-volume is taxing the spu at 100%....any ideas?
[18:57] <schultza> and.. adam might be the server you are on
[18:58] <bazzer> cpu rather
[18:58] <mojtaba> schultza: it is the same
[18:58] <schultza> nope.. your on another one...
[18:58] <mojtaba> it shows to me adam
[18:58] <co-XZist> are you logged on to ur pc as adam ?
[18:58] <aggro> How can I stop eth2 from appearing in boot to ifconfig list?
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> sere, I have not used 12.04 for awhile so I'm not really the best source probably, but I use this with my nexus 7, I got the smart phone long after using 12.04. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[18:59] <mojtaba> co-XZist: no it is mojtaba too
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> used*
[18:59] <terahert> Anyone using chrome, with the new hangout extension (like a replacement for gtalk so you dont have to use a real xmpp client, and it is available from taskbar)
[18:59] <schultza> yes.. if it is in the upper right... thats your user's name
[18:59] <schultza> for the operating system
[18:59] <terahert> The reason I ask is, with dual monitors, it shows on the wrong monitor, not the primary
[18:59] <terahert> But the left screen, the laptop screen
[19:00] <terahert> Same with chromium also
[19:00] <co-XZist> UB12 update is taking forver -_-
[19:00] <mojtaba> schultza: When I click on adam on the right side, it shows mojtaba!!!
[19:01] <schultza> im not currently loaded in the applications you are in at this moment.
[19:01] <Ampelbein> mojtaba: Go into account options, did you set a local alias?
[19:01] <vaurdan> Hey
[19:01] <mojtaba> Ampelbein: I am not sure. I am using pidgin
[19:01] <Ampelbein> mojtaba: accounts -> IRC -> edit account
[19:01] <co-XZist> i stopped using pidgin a long time ago :)
[19:02] <mojtaba> co-XZist: Why? it is not good?
[19:02] <mojtaba> Ampelbein: Thanks
[19:02] <co-XZist> yes it is, just my preference.. I use irssi
[19:02] <schultza> oh.. that can be confusing.
[19:02] <vaurdan> Does SELinux block outside API connections?
[19:03] <schultza> that's console based, co-XZist..  a lot of ppl are not comfortable on the console.
[19:03] <vaurdan> do I have to add any iptables or else rules?
[19:03] <terahert> Pidgin has horrible IRC handling thanks to broken irc protocol support in libpurple (pigdin backend). I would suggest any7one using it for IRC a lot to swiutch to hexchat or another IRC client of their choice.
[19:03] <co-XZist> schultza: yeah I know..thats why i said "just my preference"
[19:03] <co-XZist> I'm not a fan of GUI's
[19:03] <terahert> I like KVIrc, but I am not an unity/gtk guy...
[19:04] <schultza> vaurdan: SELinux is a seperate Application based Firewall (seperate of the iptables). I say this lightly as it sets application domain workspaces.
[19:04] <OBI1> hello
[19:04] <schultza> kvirc is kde/qt based.
[19:05] <sere> wilee-nilee: ok thanks :) i will get that a look
[19:05] <jeevanus> hi, im using 32 bit linux, is it possible to have 64 bit os inside my machine?
[19:05] <jeevanus> atleast a 64 bit terminal
[19:06] <schultza> no.. youd have to start with 64 bit.. then use 32 bit applications
[19:06]  * schultza off to gaming.
[19:06] <OBI1> use tumb drive and install 64 bit on it and save your files on the hard drive
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> sere, I did see a thread on xda and mtp on 12.04 there might be info on that site.
[19:07] <terahert> schultza:pofc its KDE/Qt based, hence why I said I am NOT a unity/gtk guy
[19:07] <guest8989> Anyone here have experience with setting up ssh authentication via ldap/sasl against Active Directory
[19:08] <terahert> I much prefer QT for usage and coding to GTK
[19:08] <guest8989> all the guides i have found are somewhat confusing
[19:08] <terahert> QT's developer tools are a godsend compared to gtk
[19:09] <schultza> pofc? never heard of it
[19:09] <OBI1> what other desktop enviroments i can install in Ubuntu exept Unity, Gnome3,KDE
[19:09] <vaurdan> schultza, and how can I add a IP to the whitelist?
[19:09] <terahert> kvirc*
[19:09] <terahert> err
[19:09] <terahert> I meant to type ofc*
[19:09] <vaurdan> I want to be able to communicate with api.myprovider.com
[19:09] <co-XZist> jeevanus: Try OracleVM for linux.. I think it can run both 32 and 64bit OS's
[19:09] <terahert> ie ofc = of course
[19:09] <Eighteens> i just changed my motherboard, and my computer has a new static ip, what command do i type to set it back to my old ip
[19:09] <OBI1> Hi wille
[19:09] <lord4163> vaurdan: using your firewall? :)
[19:09] <schultza> i dont know SELinux very well, vaurdan.
[19:10] <auronandace> OBI1: xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[19:10] <vaurdan> when I ping it from my server, it doesn't reply; when I ping it from my machine I got a reply
[19:10] <OBI1> enlightment that new one
[19:10] <schultza> lord4163: I think he is saying his selinux is in the way, not iptables.
[19:10] <vaurdan> lord4163, can you give me a quick tip? :p
[19:10] <schultza> vaurdan: pastebin your "iptables -L"
[19:10] <lord4163> vaurdan: ehm, no just read the last lines, don't know what you try to do? :P
[19:11] <schultza> start with the actual kernel level network firewall (iptables).
[19:11] <vaurdan> schultza, http://pastebin.com/3qSYcM4s
[19:11] <lord4163> vaurdan: Maybe your server haven't got a DNS configured?
[19:12] <vaurdan> it has, I use dig
[19:12] <vaurdan> and yum
[19:12] <schultza> well, it's not iptables.. there is no deny/drop in there at all.
[19:12] <schultza> what message/s are you getting?
[19:13] <vaurdan> [root@gamerbox httpd]# ping api.wordpress.org
[19:13] <vaurdan> PING wordpress.org (66.155.40.250) 56(84) bytes of data.
[19:13] <OBI1> look like enlightment looks good
[19:13] <vaurdan> just this, and it stuck here
[19:13] <lord4163> OBI1: There are plenty of them you can check arch' wiki there is a nice list of DE's here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Environment#List_of_desktop_environments and if you're an advanced power user you can check out a WM, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_Manager#List_of_window_managers
[19:14] <vaurdan> ctrl+c and "26 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 25016ms"
[19:14] <Marlenee> how i upgrade nmap version
[19:14] <schultza> hang on.
[19:14] <lord4163> Marlenee: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nmap
[19:14] <OBI1> thanks lord i`m not "advance" but using linux for 8 yeras now as main OS
[19:15] <OBI1> And i love it
[19:15] <lord4163> OBI1: also depending on your target machine, on an old box you don't want to run Unity, GNOME Shell or KDE.
[19:16] <schultza> do you know how to temporarily [dis|en]able your SELinux?
[19:16] <vaurdan> yes, good idea :p
[19:16] <SchrodingersScat> OBI1: I like xfce which goes along with the xubuntu desktop option
[19:17] <schultza> if selinux is disabled from blocking anything and iptables is open like i see.. you should be able to ping it.. and this action will show us that it is selinux and you will need to ask the experts of selinux how to fix this. selinux is still quite new at this time though.
[19:17] <schultza> and there is an #selinux channel here on freenode.
[19:18] <OBI1> i have used them all and i love the gnome2.0  and love to have it but well won`t happen so ineed similar desktop used to have option to customize the gnome now days you can't
[19:18] <Marlenee> i do upgrade and nmap version is same as it -  Nmap 5.21
[19:18] <schultza> um .. linuxmint is the new maintainer for the gnome 2 stuff. i just forgot what they call it.
[19:18] <vaurdan> schultza, thanks for the tip :)
[19:18] <schultza> what did you find out vaurdan?
[19:18] <lord4163> OBI1: I'm using Elementary OS, it's based of Ubuntu 12.04, but everything is custom made by the devs, from their DE to their webbrowser :)
[19:18] <OBI1> Cinnamon desktop
[19:19] <lord4163> OBI1: you can check out MATE or XFCE if you wanna have the GNOME 2.x experience.
[19:19] <lord4163> OBI1: MATE = fork of GNOME 2
[19:19] <schultza> mate is? what is cinnamon? the linuxmint fork of gnome 3?
[19:20] <OBI1> tnx lord i will look at it
[19:20] <OBI1> http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
[19:21] <OBI1> brb have to reboth
[19:21] <OerHeks> cinnamon is in the ubuntu repo's, mate is unsupported here.
[19:21] <raven_> hi
[19:22] <SchrodingersScat> raven_: hey
[19:23] <raven_> hdparm with external 3tb drive: how to disable/increase spindown-time?
[19:23] <schultza> LinuxMint is the maintainer of both cinnamon (advantages of gnome3/gtk3 backbone) and mate (fork of no longer gnome maintained gnome 2).
[19:23] <schultza> ok
[19:23] <schultza> and technically linuxmint should support both since they are maintaining both.
[19:24] <Orioa> is anyone avialable for some help
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> Orioa, You have to state the issues for help.
[19:25] <Obi1> enlightment  did not work at all
[19:25] <Orioa> im having issues with a driver
[19:26] <Orioa> i tried all the drivers offered but none seem to work
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> !details | Orioa this may help.
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> tons of drivers be specific
[19:27] <Orioa> i have a nvidia graphics card and all of the drivers offered do not work i am on ubuntu 12.04
[19:27] <lord4163> OerHeks: Why ain't it in the repo?
[19:28] <Orioa> and im not sure what to do i am new to linux
[19:28] <plusEV> Orioa: play around
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> Orioa, If you run lspci in the terminal you can find the graphic hardware to include in youask for help.
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> your ask*
[19:28] <OerHeks> lord4163, it is a mint thing
[19:28] <Obi1> any news on DRM for linux?
[19:29] <Obi1> kids is killing me for the stuped Netflix
[19:29] <auronandace> !netflix | Obi1
[19:29] <hayer> Anyone know of a program that can display info about a .png in terminal? Like dpi, width*height, etc?
[19:30] <raven_> hdparm with external 3tb drive: how to disable/increase spindown-time?
[19:30] <lord4163> OerHeks: Ok, but there are PPA's for it :)
[19:30] <Orioa> NVIDIA Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2)
[19:31] <Orioa> i have played around with it tried all the drivers in the additional driver log
[19:31] <Obi1> AWESOME i can divorce Windows Officialy if that NETFLIX works  YEPY
[19:31] <hayer> hayer: use <file filename.png>
[19:32] <co-XZist> I wanted to divorce Windows completely
[19:33] <OerHeks> Orioa, that old 7150m needs the 173 driver  > http://askubuntu.com/a/270248
[19:33] <co-XZist> but no driver for my ATIx1500
[19:33] <meet> hi. how do I change my default desktop environment? Like now i have xfce but I want openbox . so what should i edit?
[19:33] <WarlockLord> hey folks, looking for some help here. I had ubuntu 13.04 up and running, then I went to try to get hybrid graphics and vgaswitcheroo working. now I'm stuck on the ubuntu screen with the dots... any suggestions?
[19:33] <Mekaari_> depends on what your display manager is, meet.
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> Orioa, I see a bug on this, here are some threads to look through. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=GeForce+7150M+
[19:34] <meet> Mekaari_: how do I find that out?
[19:34] <Mekaari_> but usually, you edit .xinitrc in your home directory.
[19:34] <Orioa> ty
[19:35] <Mekaari_> meet: open .xinitrc and there should be something like
[19:35] <Mekaari_> exec startxfce4
[19:35] <OerHeks> meet, install openbox, logout, change DE, login
[19:35] <Gune> Question, If i got 4 partitions on a laptop using windows 7, and i clear one of them out, put in a ubuntu CD for installing. Can i repartition this empty partition to a slightly smaller size and add a swap partition without damaging the 3 windows partitions with data on them?
[19:35] <Mekaari_> change that to "exec openbox-session"
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> Gune, 4 primaries oe 3 and a extended with logical partitions are the limits per HD.
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> or*
[19:36] <meet> OerHeks: actually I am currently on linux lite which is ubuntu based and uses "heavily modified xfce".  btw Mekaari_  I searched for .xinitrc in home but it is not there
[19:36] <meet> OerHeks: so when I login there is no option to switch to openbox.
[19:36] <meet> OerHeks: *logout
[19:37] <OerHeks> meet, in ubuntu there is, your lite version might be altered, i don't know
[19:37] <Gune> wilee-nilee: ah right, crap. Well, question 2. Can a usb drive run ubuntu well enough to allow for an IDE to run smoothly? An IDE such as netbeans, for c++/c coding and compiling
[19:37] <Orioa> i have tried the 173 drivers that is what i am using now but it does not find my other monitor
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> meet, there is a #linuxlite channel it is not supported here.
[19:38] <OerHeks> Orioa, are you sure you have 173-updates, NOT nvidia-173 ?
[19:38] <Orioa> yes
[19:39] <meet> wilee-nilee: actually I asked over there but got no reply for a long time.
[19:39] <Orioa> i have the additional driver window open
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> Gune, A usb is limited by its quality and the speed it can transfer to and from the computer. Many remove the firmware partition and have no problem, or put it in the extended you would add for ubuntu and the swap.
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> meet, Bummer, if you get support here it will just be incidental is all, most wont.
[19:40] <Orioa> it works fine for the monitor on the laptop but does not let me use an additional monitor
[19:40] <lord4163> Gune: I wouldn't recommend it even on my HDD it's slow :D
[19:42] <Gune> Heh i see. ok so do i remove 1 of the 4 windows partitions, create a new primary for ubuntu, and then create a 5th extended one to use as swap?
[19:43] <thewrath> hey all i was wondering if anyone has had the same issue. I attempted to install the 64 bit of 13.04 and when i reboot after the install it sits there at a blinking cursor
[19:43] <Orioa> i had that same issue so went with 12.04 lte
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, More than one HD per-chance, no real indications of what you have done as problematic in general.
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> ie 64 bit installs
[19:44] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: there is only one hard drive on it
[19:45] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: you are saying 64 bit installs for Ubuntu are problematic?
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, No,
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, This a usb install?
[19:45] <crackerjackz> !truecrypt
[19:45] <thewrath> no DVD
[19:45] <skorasaurus-alt> !ubuntuforums
[19:45] <InvaderZim> hi
[19:45] <crackerjackz> what is the package name for truecrypt?
[19:46] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: linux mint 15 64 bit installs w/o issue
[19:46] <thewrath> so i was guessing it was something through the Ubuntu install
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, This is a good tool for fixing, best option may be running just the bootinfo summary and posting the url here and looking at it yourself. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | thewrath tey this
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> try*
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, Mint has more drivers for some things that is what makes it popular try the nomodeset boot.
[19:48] <AdvoWork> Hi there, im working on a document which has approx 40 images in, these are massive and its making the document 100+MB. I'm wanting to resize the photos, so i basically renamed the .odt to .tar.gz, extracted it, went into the pictures folder, resized them all, compressed it back up and then renamed it back to .odt, but its now all corrupted. Anyone know how to do what I want but without destroying the document?
[19:49] <ikonia> AdvoWork: what did you rename it ? that does nothing
[19:49] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: all right i am looking at the boot repair. sounds like i can install it so i will install it via the live Ubuntu
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, Try the nomodeset first
[19:50] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: I said that Linux Mint all ready boots w/o issue
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, Sounds more like a graphic driver issue, nomodeset should get you to the desktop to update and install drivers.
[19:50] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: nomedest is boot repair?
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | thewrath
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, It is a grub edit, from a install per-session, in your case
[19:52] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: all right i am looking at that too
[19:52] <thewrath> i need to go through the process again stand by
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, miny has more drivers for a plug and play, that is why people like it in general, ubuntu has all the same driver options, but need loading at times.
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> mint*
[19:53] <AdvoWork> ikonia, to be fair i dont know, but even so, that won't cause the corruptness would it?
[19:53] <max64> i'm using ubuntu 13.4 .. how can i install hotmail,gmail and yahoo icons on the left bar in the screen?
[19:54] <ikonia> AdvoWork: it can do if you are changing the name and different apps treat it different
[19:54] <fritz3170> did anyone notice about this beetle سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ  ?
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> max64, You can access all three with thunderbird, or another.
[19:55] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: when i had ubuntu installed it did not even get to a splash screen
[19:55] <max64> Wilee-nilee:there is icons of them i cam stick in the unity bar
[19:56] <AdvoWork> ikonia, but im changing it back afterwards, ill just try now without renaming
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, right a mkissing graphic driver will cause that, have you looked at the nomodeset link?
[19:56] <thewrath> starting too now ... was getting the ubuntu install set up again
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> max64, Is that a are there icons? I don't know.
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, If you do not use the update while installing option, you can not get drivers you would have otherwise.
[19:58] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: are you saying the install updates during install?
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, It is best to have the install updates ticked on a install.
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> generally especially if you have nvidia or other graphics hardware that may need drivers
[20:00] <plusEV> Hi, I am running Lubuntu 13.04 and I have installed gsynaptics to manage my mouse. The problem is that any change I make does not save to a reboot. Anyone know how to fix this?
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> !gsynaptics
[20:02] <plusEV> or the settings turns on only when i start the program again
[20:02] <plusEV> !gsynaptics
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, gsynaptics is a 3rd party source forge did you try the synaptics tap pad.
[20:03] <flax_> how do I do a search on my system for all .ogv files? ubuntu 12.04
[20:03] <flax_> gui
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, I believe it had mouse support, what is the issue and ean goal here?
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> has*
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> flax_, search in home would be easiest probably
[20:04] <plusEV> huh?
[20:04] <plusEV> I do not know what tap pad is
[20:05] <plusEV> I could not find any mouse setting after I installed Lubuntu so I read up on gsynaptics. No idea what tap pad is
[20:06] <kqr1> does anybody know off-hand if there is a way to make pommed (a daemon for apple laptop hotkeys) change the volume of pulseaudio instead of an alsa channel?
[20:06] <zooz> hi people
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad  you need to state the problems and goals in the end here.
[20:06] <zooz> what do you guys use for creating your own local APT repos?
[20:07] <zooz> I use reprepro, but it does not support multiple versions of the same package, otherwise it's great
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse
[20:07] <bazhang> !info apt-mirror | zooz
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, Is not a gui orientated as nice as it is.
[20:08] <zooz> bazhang, I use that too for mirroring existing repos.
[20:08] <hanasaki> how can I put multiple bootable iso usb images linux example.... on a single usb stick and select which at boot?
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> as*
[20:08] <zooz> bazhang, but I need a tool for creating repos from scratch for my own packages
[20:08] <Ampelbein> zooz: dpkg-scanpackages should do what you want with the "-m" switch.
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, I use the multisystem loader seen at pendrivelinux for loading from linux
[20:08] <bazhang> zooz, how many packages are we talking
[20:08] <zooz> Ampelbein, can it sign packages?
[20:09] <flax_> there is a hundred gig screen capture video file made with gtkrecordmydesktop and I can't locate it, what folder would it most likely be in
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[20:09] <zooz> bazhang, around 10-15 new ones per day. So it will be changing constantly
[20:09] <bazhang> zooz, perhaps PPA system
[20:10] <Orioa> im totally lost..
[20:10] <zooz> bazhang, PPA is public right? I need to host private packages
[20:10] <Ampelbein> zooz: Unfortunately dpkg-scanpackages doesn't support signed Release files.
[20:11] <Ampelbein> zooz: But you could use apt-ftparchive for that.
[20:12] <zooz> thanks
[20:14] <flax_> in what folder do gtk-recordmydesktop files(.ogv) go into by default, if I didnt manually save the file
[20:15] <plusEV> wilee-nilee: My problem is that I want to disable the pager scrolling. Like srolling gives me new desktop. I can not find any option for pager when I run synclient -l
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, Not sure myself, you might try the #lubuntu channel as well
[20:17] <plusEV> wilee-nilee: I found it on the bottom of the page you gave me now. But unsure of how to do it. :P
[20:17] <plusEV> something about openbox, but I do not undrstan what he means.
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, Lots of excellent helpers here, you can probably get this resolved, just not an area I'm sure in is all. ;)
[20:18] <plusEV> wilee-nilee: nevermind my dumbass chromium f.. up the site. I can read it now. :)
[20:20] <BluesKaj> ,!openbox | plusEV
[20:20] <BluesKaj> oops
[20:20] <BluesKaj> !openbox | plusEV
[20:21] <AdvoWork> Quick query - ive had some of my staff write documents for me in libre office, ive seen them and they looked ok, ive opened them on my laptop and the formatting has all gone random, ie photos/bullet points overlap etc, any idea why this could happen, but my lappy and other machines are Ubuntu...
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> Opened them in an older version of libreoffice ?
[20:24] <AdvoWork> Dr_Willis, maybe :S  i cant check either as at home now
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> thats about the only thing i can think of. Unles they are saveing it in some weird way.
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> there is a libreoffice channel i belive
[20:24] <flax_> Dr_Willis, there is a large .ogv file on my system that I can't find, it's not in the home folder, what folder are gtk-recordmyscreen files stored by default?
[20:25] <daftykins> flax_: "sudo updatedb" "locate ogv" ?
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> you mean 'gtk-recordmydesktop' ?
[20:26] <flax_> Dr_Willis, yes
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> looks like they save to your home by default.
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> but they may have some tmp file they use
[20:27] <flax_> where would the tmp files be
[20:28] <Dr_Willis>  /tmp/  would be my guess
[20:28] <Ampelbein> flax_: Usually in /tmp, unless your $TMPDIR is set to something else
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> settings for gtk-recordmydesktop --->   working directory  ---> /tmp
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[20:29] <amireldor> command to determine modem on computer for placing its model in a google search, coz of repeated disconnection problems?
[20:29] <amireldor> (helping a friend)
[20:29] <Ampelbein> amireldor: lspci? lsusb?
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> !info hwinfo
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> 'modem' is such a broad term these days ;)  3g? dialup? ADSL?
[20:37] <joufflu> good god
[20:38] <sinann390> ioedx vruur jyn go pr Testing ~
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[20:38] <FloodBot1> sinann390: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <FloodBot1> AVUKATKORHAN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <FloodBot1> Salih__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> hmm.  If reencoding a video via handbreak. and its a CGI animation, would the  x264 Tuneing option of 'Animation' be best? or would that mainly be for the More classic style anime/animation/cartoons?
[20:42] <skegeek> Do you have to install Ubuntu via USB to have "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows"?
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> skegeek:  options should be the same
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> biggest issue ive seen with that option. - IF you have 4 primary partions allready made. it may not allow it.
[20:43] <skegeek> I tried installing 13.04 via CD, it didn't offer that option, only offered options for partitioninig.
[20:44] <skegeek> Does it automatically partition using install alongside windows option?
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> personally i would resize/repartion manually.  but thats because i tend to know what i want. ;)
[20:45] <jhutchins> skegeek: When you are partitioning you can resize the existing Windows partitions.  That's what you do for dual boot.
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> I tend to let windows resize/shrink its own partions - befor i do the ubuntu install. windows seems a LOT faster at the task
[20:45] <BluesKaj> skegeek, yes , it should , but "guided" partitioning is probly safer
[20:46] <jhutchins> skegeek: It would be really nice to make a backup before you start messing with it.
[20:47] <b0unce> What's the internet daemon in 13.04 (from what I can enable/disable internet services)?
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> b0unce:  no such thing as far as i know. You manage services via the Upstart settings/scripts
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[20:48] <AdvoWork> how can i upgrade libreoffice(just this application) in ubuntu 13.04?
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  you want one thats newer then whats in the repos? if so use a PPA.
[20:49] <b0unce> Dr_Willis: I remember something such inetd
[20:49] <Ampelbein> b0unce: I don't have a 13.04 install handy to check, but isn't the default stil inetutils-inetd? You can do "dpkg -l | grep inetd" to check.
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> b0unce:  i dont think thats been used for years on ubuntu
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> wasent it xinetd ages ago?
[20:50] <b0unce> Ampelbein: it gives me "update-inetd" as installed. Where's the conf file?
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> changed i mean
[20:50] <Dr_Willis>  locate inetd
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> /etc/inetd.conf
[20:50] <b0unce> Dr_Willis: I don't have that file in /etc
[20:50] <Ampelbein> b0unce: update-inetd is just a tool to enable/disable entries in /etc/inetd.conf
[20:51] <AdvoWork> Dr_Willis, i dont know if im using the latest version anyway, can i do sudo apt-get update libreoffice ?
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> my inetd.conf is all... comments.. ;)
[20:51] <b0unce> Ampelbein: alright, thanks. I think now it's clear.
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  some weird reason you dont want your whole system  up to date?
[20:52] <AdvoWork> nopf, true
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> makes me wonder what inetd is actually doing.
[20:52] <AdvoWork> *nope
[20:52] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, taking up space
[20:52] <Ampelbein> b0unce: It could be that you don't have any package installed that actually requires a superserver. In which case you could install inetutils-inetd or another.
[20:52] <skegeek> I have resized to create Ubuntu partitions, however, partitions always seem to be a bit off of the size I specify.
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> i think it got pulled in  when i set up fail2ban perhaps
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> skegeek:  rounding to the nearest sector/clyinder or somthing i recall.
[20:53] <Ampelbein> Dr_Willis: It's a server that reacts to connection requests on ports and starts the "real" server.
[20:53] <b0unce> Ampelbein: Many thanks. :)
[20:53] <Ampelbein> Dr_Willis: It saves memory and cpu due to fewer processes running as servers only get started when they are actually needed.
[20:54] <pfifo> skegeek, dont forget 1024 bytes = 1 kb (not 1000) and the filesystem itself requires some space, and 5% is usually reserved for root so it appears as if its used
[20:54] <Obi1> hello
[20:54] <Willdude123> http://imgur.com/6C8G2TL
[20:54] <Willdude123> ^it was an accident
[20:54] <Willdude123> Tried to set up vlc over web interface, doesn't work.
[20:54] <Obi1> any one have run or running Bodhi linux?
[20:54] <Willdude123> But this is 10 times cooler
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> Ampelbein:  and its the kind of thing most people never need to touch. ;)
[20:55] <siberiannerd> could someone point me at my mistake or give some useful tips? why can't i get the window id from known pid directly or vice versa for wine window http://pastebin.com/Bp1SDAyK ?
[20:55] <Ampelbein> Dr_Willis: True.
[20:55] <Ampelbein> I remember that upstart should get a similar functionality, but haven't checked how far that project has come.
[20:57] <pfifo> siberiannerd, try asking in #winehq
[20:58] <siberiannerd> pfifo, tried that
[20:58] <siberiannerd> someone told i could try my distro support channel so i'm here
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> but the same method works for a non-wine window ?
[21:02] <koko0> hi, ive upgraded to 13.10 and now cant assign shortcut to switch input language.
[21:03] <koko0> well, i can  assign, its just not switching.
[21:04] <siberiannerd> Dr_Willis, it shows me pids for visible native windows at least, always
[21:04] <Dr_Willis>  13.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[21:04] <koko0> k ty :)
[21:04] <Ampelbein> siberiannerd: There was/is a bug with invisible, blocking windows.
[21:04] <Ampelbein> siberiannerd: Let me check if I can find it.
[21:04] <siberiannerd> Ampelbein, wow thanks
[21:05] <Ampelbein> bug 709461
[21:05] <Ampelbein> But doesn't look like it's resolved
[21:05] <siberiannerd> Ampelbein, why it's "compiz"?
[21:06] <siberiannerd> i don't use one for example
[21:06] <siberiannerd> and btw the window itself is fine
[21:07] <Ampelbein> siberiannerd: Oh, ok. I only had the missing NET_WM_PID with those invisible windows.
[21:08] <siberiannerd> Ampelbein, thanks anyway, i'll try to investigate if there could be something in common
[21:10] <DuncanNZ> how do you "connect as" to a windows network share which allows public access but also shows more content with login?
[21:12] <b0bbi10> hi
[21:12] <axgb> hi, I cannot edit my home directory contents or access a usb stick unless root
[21:12] <daftykins> axgb: did you restore your home from a backup or external drive?
[21:13] <axgb> yes,
[21:13] <b0bbi10> if I intend to use Full Disk Encryption with an existing Full Disk Encrypted /home partition, is there a way to encrypt all devices using one password (will use the same password for encrypting the new Ubuntu installation)?
[21:13] <axgb> Not with an automated thing, i just copied and pasted with usb stick
[21:13] <yumbono> axgb: you can use the "chown" command to set the owner of your home directory to your user
[21:14] <pfifo> b0bbi10, i encrypted my /, and on it i put a few encryption keys (files) for the rest of my partitions.
[21:14] <axgb> My user name is ariel, tell me the command
[21:14] <pfifo> b0bbi10, hence only need 1 password
[21:14] <daftykins> axgb: as root? yeah you're going to need to take ownership as yumbono says
[21:14] <daftykins> axgb: sudo chown -R ariel: /home/ariel/
[21:14] <yumbono> axgb: you can do it with "sudo chown -R ariel /home/ariel
[21:15] <yumbono> yeah, what daftykinssaid
[21:15] <yumbono> said*
[21:15] <b0bbi10> pfifo: ok, good to know
[21:15] <b0bbi10> then I'll see how I can set it up
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> !permissions > axgb
[21:16] <daftykins> yumbono: high-five sir
[21:17] <axgb> Hi, Yumbono, it says permission denied, i did it as sudo
[21:17] <daftykins> axgb: can you pastebin what you did?
[21:18] <daftykins> copy it straight out of the terminal
[21:18] <daftykins> preferably with an "ls -l /home/" beside it too
[21:20] <axgb> hi, the problem with home has gone, there is still an issue with USB sticjks
[21:22] <sere> ll
[21:22] <b0bbi10> pfifo: sorry to bother you but I got another question concerning LUKS. is there any configuration file so that I can see how LUKS is currently set up (which device is mounted with which options etc.)?
[21:26] <amireldor> Ampelbein, hmm OK I guess
[21:26] <bazzer> using 12.04 and just mounted via loopback a large number (16) of iso images and now gvfs-gdu-volume is taxing my cpu...any ideas?
[21:41] <sere> Question: I can see my driod in rhythmbox but cant sync any files to it.. no errors just wont copy
[21:48] <Jofironses> Hello, is it possible to grow a raid0 without file loss. That is, add another hard disk to an existing array, while maintaining all data. (I'm using software raid by the way)
[21:51] <compdoc> raid0 is two drives now?
[21:52] <compdoc> striped for speed?
[21:54] <Jofironses> compdoc: Yes
[21:55] <daftykins> Jofironses: my instinct would be no
[21:56] <daftykins> but i don't use software based
[21:59] <flax_> in what folder are most program files stored?
[22:01] <yumbono> flax_: what do you need that for?
[22:01] <joufflu> how do remove the notification of when someone joins and leaves in irssi ?
[22:01] <joufflu> err disable*
[22:02] <nabblet> joufflu: what client do you use?
[22:02] <joufflu> nabblet: irssi
[22:02] <flax_> ymbono, to check xchat files
[22:03] <yumbono> flax_: what do you want to find? logs?
[22:03] <nabblet> joufflu: http://irssi.org/documentation/tips
[22:03] <nabblet> joufflu: there is also an irssi channel ;)
[22:03] <joufflu> nabblet: thank you sir
[22:04]  * Dr_Willis likes weechats smart part/join filters
[22:04] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: what makes it smart?
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  if you quit now/ or part..it shows it.. if you stay quiet for 5 min, or never say anythng. it dosent show them
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> also alt-=  can toggle them to show me what ones got hidden.
[22:05] <nabblet> joufflu: also look a bit around - irssi alone is not that fun - but the scripts make it pretty useful!
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> weechat also has basically a 'package manager' for its scripts
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[22:05] <nabblet> oooohhhh, shiny!
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> but you WILL want to read the weechat docs/guides/starter guide
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> also theres a weechat-android client that connects to your weechat session.
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> but its a bit crashy right now
[22:07] <nabblet> well, usually i use tmux+irssi
[22:07] <nabblet> tmux is some kind fo screen - but better ;)
[22:07] <nabblet> that weechat thing looks interesting!
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> for ages i used znc+weechat+tmux or whatever :) but with znc - the use of  tmux was a little overkill
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> raspberry pi = my znc/irc server/gateway ;)
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> id connect to it via znc from any other client. then i basically was here 24/7 :)
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> 3+ differnt pcs/irc clients --> all connected to the same znc  server, all routeing me here.
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> i could go to any pc in the house, or tablet/phone and still be on the same nick/session here.
[22:12] <nabblet> !znc
[22:12] <nabblet> :(
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> !info znc
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> with weechat i got the mode changes by the bots/ops  going to a diffent window also. so i dont see the mode change floods that often happen in here. ;)
[22:13] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: you can do that irssi to
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> but i dont need scripts to do it. its a built in feature
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> i just cant rember how i enabled the feature. ;P
[22:14] <nabblet> ahahaha
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> been using the same weechat setup for like 2 years
[22:15] <nabblet> it's a pain to be to redo things i did long ago
[22:15] <nabblet> usually all i remember is: it was a pain and there was a twist somewhere
[22:15] <nabblet> :P
[22:15] <mega1> when i loged into my server it said there was 85 updates so i installed now it says there was an error
[22:15] <nabblet> :(
[22:15] <SubCool> how do i deteremine which harddrive of mine is ata9?
[22:15] <SubCool> according to dmesg?
[22:15] <pcs> hey
[22:16] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: i don't get the idea behind an irc bouncer. here is what i do: tumx + irssi some where. and then ssh to that computer and open the tmux sessions. what value will an irc bouncer add for me?
[22:16] <mega1> dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  as i said eralier - i have 4 pcs in the house.. all go to the bouncer.. then they show whats here.
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> they can be running ANY irc client. it dosent matter.
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> i chat here.. go to the garrage..  that pc/client shows the same dialog/info.
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> i turn off all 4 pcs' the znc server stays here and logs stuff.. i connect via phone.. it shows the history. I never 'appear' to leave here
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> so. No ned to use ssh/tmux, any client can have a peristant session.
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> and multi clients appear as a single client here.
[22:19] <nabblet> ah ok
[22:19] <Corvaxia> So. I have 13.04 with Steam running through WINE. Everything runs fine except for my microphone. The Yeti Mic works in ubuntu but when testing it on Steam I sound like a chipmunk. Where should I start poking around?
[22:20] <nabblet> brb
[22:21] <flax_>   how do you start weechat if it's installed but not in the gnome panel?
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> Corvaxia, Do we get a sample of the chipmunk voice. ;)
[22:21] <FrostyX> Hi, I am trying to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/hamster-indicator/0.1+037dd2e-0ubuntu1 from tar.gz and I got this python error http://pastebin.com/mNdcU26u . Do you know how to fix it please?
[22:22] <troii> how do i install iceweasel
[22:22] <IdleOne> troii: like I said in #freenode 11.10 is no longer supported, install 12.04LTS and you will be able to install iceweasel
[22:22] <Corvaxia> I would have to install audacity on my wine install but maaaaaaaybe
[22:22] <troii> how do i upgrade
[22:22] <Akiva-Mobile> with ubuntuone, is it possible to give out a link for anyone to use a folder, rather than having to add everyone specifically by email?
[22:22] <IdleOne> troii: if you don't want to upgrade. There is nothing we can do to help you.
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade | troii
[22:22] <troii> apt-get upgrade doesnt work
[22:22] <Corvaxia> I'm just wondering if there is a specific package I have to install for my ALC889  soundcard or the yeti mic
[22:23] <IdleOne> !eolupgrade | troii
[22:23] <SubCool> Ok- so.. um.. ive been having HDD issues..
[22:24] <troii> My PC is secure
[22:24] <afterm4th> سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ
[22:24] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: btw. what's the correct term for not transfering logindata for irc nicks in clear text?
[22:24] <nurupo> is there a PPA with precompiled Qt 5.1.x packages? can't find any
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  you mean encrypting?
[22:25] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: afaik, if i identify at nickserv, my password will be transferred unencrpyted if no meausres are taken
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  or ssl ?
[22:25] <troii> IDLEONE i installed iceweasel but instead i get firefox
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  weechat replaces your password with a * if you accidently do that in a chennel.
[22:25] <troii> :SSSS
[22:25] <SubCool> which log file would i pull up to figure out which hdd is going nuts when it crashes again?
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  and freenode has sasl features as well
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> nabblet, You can set a delay
[22:26] <nabblet> wilee-nilee: oh yes, i remeber something about delay XD
[22:26] <nabblet> so that it has time to register...
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> yep
[22:26] <nabblet> so what's the therm for that: encrypted loging?
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  and freenode has sasl features as well
[22:26] <nabblet> sasl
[22:26] <nabblet> ok
[22:26] <nabblet> will look for hat
[22:26] <nabblet> *that
[22:27] <nabblet> thank you
[22:27] <FloodBot1> nabblet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> znc and weechat support it. as do most mondern irc clients
[22:27] <troii> does this channel support KU-BUNTU
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> sometimes i cant get to freenode via my cellphone. unless i use sasl
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> troii:  to some degree - yes
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> the released version yes
[22:27] <nabblet> !kubuntu
[22:27] <troii> how about BloatBuntu ?
[22:27] <nabblet> ^ troii
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> canonical associated releases only
[22:29] <nabblet> is there a way in ubuntu to make "real" annotations to pdfs? like acrobat does?
[22:30] <troii> Ubuntu is blotware
[22:30] <nabblet> ususally additional files are required or something like that
[22:30] <nabblet> troii: well, take that to #troll
[22:40] <wiak> i have a *slow* problem, my realtek 8111F gigabit ethernet only gives me 32 mb/s max over sftp and 12 mb/s over samba, this is on a 8 disk RAID6, ubuntu 12.04 amd64, hdparm gives me Timing buffered disk reads: 998 MB in 3.00 seconds = 332.58 MB/sec on the array
[22:40] <wiak> soo its not the harddrive(S)
[22:41] <wiak> windows 8 > ubuntu 12.04 LTS AMD64 Samba
[22:41] <daftykins> wiak: buffered is useless, bench non-buffered
[22:41] <daftykins> wiak: is it software RAID?
[22:43] <ziadingo> run=$(sudo /home/ziadingo/sc)
[22:43] <ziadingo> $run
[22:43] <ziadingo> why does'nt work? I want set command to var
[22:43] <tsimpson> ziadingo: $() executes the command between the parentheses and returns the output of the command
[22:43] <LeinardoSmith_> hello does anyone have experience using samba and cups to serve windows printer drivers?
[22:44] <wiak> daftykins: fake hardware raid i belive its a marvell chip/highpoint btw when i use sftp and copy a file from the os ssd disk i get the same speed, so its network not raid/ssd
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> LeinardoSmith_, The channel works with stating the issues for help.
[22:46] <LeinardoSmith_> oh ok
[22:46] <ziadingo> tsimpson: ok, but if jei my bash file eg. /home/ziadingo/sc/files/bash, every time write file location not good idea
[22:47] <tsimpson> ziadingo: I didn't understand you
[22:47] <LeinardoSmith_> I am getting a WERR_ACCESS_DENIED error when I try to run "sudo cupsaddsmb -v -a"
[22:48] <daftykins> wiak: have you tried iperf to confirm your network is up to the task?
[22:48] <ziadingo> tsimpson: i want to run file /home/ziadingo/sc/files/bash.txt
[22:48] <ziadingo> Did imposible long command set to variable>
[22:48] <ziadingo> ?
[22:48] <SmokingFreak> good morning
[22:49] <tsimpson> ziadingo: set the variable to the command with double-quotes, don't use $()
[22:49] <wiak> daftykins: well i *know* it can do 112 MB/s, but after i updated something in ubuntu, it went down to 12 MB/s
[22:50] <tsimpson> ziadingo: command="sudo /home/me/whatever/the/file/is"; $command
[22:51] <LeinardoSmith_> anybody?
[22:51] <ziadingo> tsimpson: thx
[22:53] <jfklsdajkfsda> fdsa
[22:53] <herbstwind> list
[22:53] <LeinardoSmith_> I am trying to set up cups and samba to serve the windows drivers as needed but I am running into an error: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[22:55] <jfklsdajkfsda> Can anyone help me with some big issues please?
[22:55] <wiak> [148] 0.0-10.0 sec 1.10 GBytes 939 Mbits/sec is iperf daftykins btw thx for the tip mate
[22:55] <SmokingFreak> what up?
[22:55] <nabblet> is there a packages for ubuntu like pastebinit but for images?
[22:56] <SmokingFreak> yeah 1sec got link for you
[22:56] <Apachez> nabblet: owncloud?
[22:56] <jfklsdajkfsda> well, this new ubuntu update installed and since then when i boot i get black screen
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin
[22:56] <SmokingFreak> http://beeg.com/6982198 here you go mate ;)
[22:56] <jfklsdajkfsda> and after i restarted couple of times it just shows up desktop background without any system trays
[22:57] <wiak> jfklsdajkfsda: what typo of graphics do you have?
[22:57] <jfklsdajkfsda> idk what's going on
[22:57] <jfklsdajkfsda> amd 5770
[22:57] <wiak> sometimes you need to reinstall the gpu drivers
[22:57] <jfklsdajkfsda> i have some beta drivers
[22:57] <nabblet> Apachez: would be a bit of an overkill ;)
[22:57] <jfklsdajkfsda> ok i'll try with that
[22:57] <jfklsdajkfsda> tnx
[22:57] <wiak> try go into console and run amdconfig --initial
[22:57] <wiak> :P
[22:57] <nabblet> wilee-nilee: something like this http://argandgahandapandpa.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/command-line-script-to-upload-images-to-imagebin/
[22:58] <wiak> jfklsdajkfsda: http://nwgat.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/amd-catalyst-on-linux-howto-black-screen-fix/
[22:58] <nabblet> wilee-nilee: but from repos so that i can be sure it is maintained
[22:58] <wiak> thankly i had the same problemo :P
[22:58] <jfklsdajkfsda> like i click start key on keyboard and nothing comes up
[22:58] <jfklsdajkfsda> how do i run command
[22:58] <jfklsdajkfsda> or terminal
[22:59] <jfklsdajkfsda> tnx wiak
[22:59] <wiak> follow the Black screen on boot Fix (uninstall driver) part
[22:59] <nabblet> well, i'll use that script then
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> jfklsdajkfsda:  you do or do not get a graphical Login screen? (lightdm)
[22:59] <wiak> and then install driver again jfklsdajkfsda
[22:59] <jfklsdajkfsda> i got it after i restarded pc couple of times, and after i did some stuff in recovery mode
[22:59] <wiak> Dr_Willis i had the same problem, it comes from xorg and driver not being friends ;)
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> jfklsdajkfsda:  somthing else to try is to make a new user via the console and  see if they aork.
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> wiak:  ive seen it happen for dozens of reasons. ;)  (the no panels bit)
[23:00] <jfklsdajkfsda> right, i have no panels
[23:00] <wiak> <- had black screen
[23:00] <jfklsdajkfsda> but don't have black screen anymore
[23:00] <jfklsdajkfsda> just no panels
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> jfklsdajkfsda:  try the guest user, and making a new user. see if they work. if SO then that points to a user setting issue
[23:01] <wiak> check /.config folder
[23:01] <wiak> Dr_Willis: yeah the most simple is to make a new user
[23:01] <jfklsdajkfsda> yeah, but how do i make a new user
[23:01] <jfklsdajkfsda> if i can't open any system related tools
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> sudo adduser billgates
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> at the console
[23:01] <jfklsdajkfsda> and how to open console :p
[23:02] <daftykins> run the Terminal
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> rly... is there some shortcut?
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> lol i know
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> but how
[23:02] <LeinardoSmith_> I am trying to set up cups and samba to serve the windows drivers as needed but I am running into an error: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[23:02] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> use the console.. thats the easy way
[23:02] <LeinardoSmith_> anybody any ideas?
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> but how to open console
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> what do i press
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> i don't have it on desktop
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-f1
[23:03] <jfklsdajkfsda> ok thank you
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> its not a desktop thang. ;)
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> then sudo service lightdm restart             to restart the X server
[23:04] <jfklsdajkfsda> ok
[23:04] <jfklsdajkfsda> will try
[23:05] <wiak> you can reconfigure the driver with amdconfig --initial
[23:05] <wiak> daftykins: any clue? it seems iperf gives me gbit speeds but not sftp or samba
[23:06] <chris5000> anybody else have their ath9k break after upgrading to ubuntu 12.04.3?
[23:06] <daftykins> wiak: i'm hard pushed to think of what else i'd try - it'd be nice to drop a NIC in i guess :(
[23:12] <clong> @daftykins What are you trying to do?
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> chris5000, plenty here is you need to know, http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=relevance&pagesize=50&q=%20ath9k the channel works if you state the actual issue.
[23:14] <wiak> daftykins: it is smb/sftp, iperf was around 1gbit right?
[23:15] <daftykins> clong: i was the helper not the help-ee ;)
[23:15] <wiak> clong: slow problem with ubuntu and realtek gigabit
[23:15] <daftykins> wiak: have you tried watching top during a transfer to see if the processor is getting hammered?
[23:16] <wiak> AMD 5800K?
[23:16] <wiak> i dont run 100mhz penitum
[23:16] <wiak> :P
[23:16] <wiak> will do
[23:16] <daftykins> no but it might highlight a driver/kernel issue
[23:17] <wiak> 90 while copying 2gb iso file
[23:18] <chris5000> wilee-nilee: that doesn't help. upgrading broke my backports-3.11-rc3-1.tar.bz2
 ok cool
[23:19] <chris5000> wilee-nilee: there are no newer versions according to https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/stable/v3.11-rc3/
[23:19] <chris5000> wilee-nilee: that's my specific question. any ideas?
[23:19] <clong> wiak: How slow is slow?
[23:19] <FrostyX> Please, I am trying to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/hamster-indicator/0.1+037dd2e-0ubuntu1 from tar.gz and I got this python error http://pastebin.com/mNdcU26u . Do you know how to fix it please?
[23:20] <daftykins> wiak: ah, was the slow transfer not large contiguous files? was it a lot of small files?
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> FrostyX, running 11.10 right?
[23:20] <jrib> FrostyX: why are you linking to a launchpad page?  How are you installing it?
[23:21] <wiak> 2gb iso, sftp, samba gives me 20 cpu usage on a 4.4gb file
[23:21] <FrostyX> jrib wilee-nilee: I am trying to install it from tar.gz cause I am installing it on Gentoo
[23:21] <jrib> FrostyX: this channel is for help with ubuntu
[23:21] <wiak> clong: well going from 112 mb/s to 12 mb/s is slow
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> !info hamster-indicator
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> Gentoo supports Indicator applets?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> that would be a bit supriseing
[23:24] <wiak> daftykins clong, now i have removed both ufw and iptables
[23:24] <wiak> will se if it fixes it
[23:24] <wiak> :P
[23:25] <daftykins> the former uses the latter!
[23:25] <wiak> <- file server in a local network behind a router
[23:25] <wiak> :P
[23:25] <FrostyX> Dr_Willis: I heard it works in other distributions too ..
[23:25] <wiak> there its pointless to have firewalls
[23:26] <daftykins> wiak: *nod*
[23:26] <wiak> must be firewall. having ufw and iptables at the same time hmm
[23:26] <wiak> thats must be a nono
[23:31] <OerHeks> FrostyX, so you are running unity on gentoo and want that hamster-indicator working?
[23:31] <wiak> still slow after reboot and removal of iptables and ufw daftykins :/
[23:34] <FrostyX> OerHeks: No I am not. I have only trayer app. My schoolmate told me, he has this hamster-indicator on different distro than ubuntu and running KDE, so I am trying to install it on my Gentoo + Xmonad + trayer
[23:35] <daftykins> wiak: :( out of ideas i'm afraid! beyond researching that realtek model and issues
[23:36] <FrostyX> What is that hamster.configuration python module? You have it in some ubuntu package or something?
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> FrostyX:  indicator applets dont go in the 'system tray' the inticator-applet 'thing' is a ubuntu invention to replace the old system tray
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> FrostyX:  https://github.com/shiznix/unity-gentoo/blob/master/unity-indicators/indicator-applet/indicator-applet-12.10.2_p0_p01.ebuild  might be needed. I dont use gentoo any more.  and you really should be asking in #gentoo
[23:44] <adrimirc> Hi can someone help me?
[23:45] <adrimirc> Someone?
[23:47] <gmachine_24> greetings. am looking for software to batch watermark photos... for Linux, obviously
[23:47] <jrib> gmachine_24: imagemagick
[23:47] <gmachine_24> jrib: ok I will check that out. Thanks.
[23:47] <adrimirc> Hi I have a problem with the audio I hear a distortion
[23:48] <gmachine_24> adrimirc: you need to be more specific
[23:48] <gmachine_24> adrimirc: unless you want us to guess
[23:50] <adrimirc> I use a tv as screen and when I use the tv as the sound devices with the hdmi its sounds well but when I use my Razer Megalodon headset as the audio device I hear the sound with a distortion
[23:52] <adrimirc> Someone know how to solve this?
[23:52] <gmachine_24> adrimirc: did you try just plugging speakers into the headset port to see if it's your headset?
[23:52] <gmachine_24> :-)
[23:54] <adrimirc> Yes, I plugged them in another PC and they work great
[23:57] <adrimirc> What can I do?
[23:58] <LeinardoSmith_> I am trying to set up cups and samba to serve the windows drivers as needed but I am running into an error: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[23:58] <LeinardoSmith_> anybody any ideas?