[00:34] <Noskcaj> What should i do to the new symbols that are suggested on the build status page?
[00:35] <yofel> Noskcaj: which ones?
[00:36] <yofel> if it's kde-workspace, that's missing a symbol and shadeslayer was investigating that
[00:49] <Noskcaj> yofel, i was looking at liblangtag, but really i'm asking about all of them
[00:50] <Noskcaj> i just need something to do
[00:51] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, what do you want to do?
[00:51] <smartboyhw> (And BTW, we are now in Feature Freeze)
[00:51] <yofel> aah, that build status page
[00:52] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, you can update those which are "bugfix" releases I think
[00:52] <yofel> he was asking about symbols
[00:52] <yofel> Noskcaj: I would personally leave it, as the package is synced from debian
[00:52] <smartboyhw> yofel, ah, symbols:)
[00:52] <smartboyhw> Heh heh
[00:53] <yofel> I don't think symbols really justify an ubuntu diff just for them
[00:53] <Noskcaj> ok
[00:53]  * Noskcaj resume playing borderlans
[00:53] <Noskcaj> *borderlands
[00:53] <yofel> ^^
[00:53] <smartboyhw> The WHAT?
[00:54] <manchicken> Hey all, anybody know a thing or two about the bcm nonsense with Saucy?
[00:55] <manchicken> That gigantic old HP I had back at UDS-Sevilla, I'm trying to image it using Saucy, but every time I try to install the restricted drivers I get a panic.
[02:24] <manchicken> I have a non-ideal dev setup going, a clean build on this old HP box. I'm not sure how fantastic it'll be long-term, but for now it should help me finish this piece I was doing.
[02:26] <manchicken> I'm currently configuring the build environment and all that fun stuff.
[02:29] <manchicken> This old HP doesn't really work well with Saucy.
[02:30] <manchicken> ScottK: You still doing arm builds?
[02:31] <manchicken> I'm just going through the build outcome reports trying to see if there's anything I could find useful.
[02:36] <ScottK> manchicken: I can test build something for you if you have a fix you'd like checked.
[02:37] <manchicken> I'm just kinda looking at stuff.
[02:37] <ScottK> K.
[02:37] <manchicken> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/147516816/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-armhf.kubrick_4%3A4.11.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[02:37] <manchicken> That's one I just saw.
[02:37] <manchicken> I'm prepping a build environment on an 8-year-old machine, so it's taking a while :)
[02:38] <ScottK> Heh.
[02:40] <manchicken> I'm still installing prereqs.
[02:48] <manchicken> Okay, for this one the answer is pretty simple...
[02:49] <manchicken> You have two conflicting definitions for GLintptr. One eventually resolves to `int` while the other resolves to `signed long int`
[02:52] <manchicken> There's gotta be some macro that is making it pick on over the other on Intel, because on my x86-64 box: sizeof(int)==4 and sizeof(signed long int)==8
[02:53] <ScottK> On arm, GL is actually GLES.  Is it defined differently?
[02:54] <manchicken> Yeah
[02:54] <Noskcaj> Does anyone mind if i work on qt4-x11? make it lintian clean(er), add symbols, patch a few things
[02:54] <manchicken> The GLES2 is actually the one defining the type to be larger.
[02:55] <ScottK> Noskcaj: Changes like that should ideally be done in Debian for qt4-x11.
[02:56] <ScottK> It's probably not your best choice of things to work on.
[02:56] <Noskcaj> ScottK, ok
[02:56] <Noskcaj> ScottK, even though it's an ubuntu only version?
[02:56] <manchicken> I will need help with the wifi drivers on this HP machine eventually.
[02:57] <Noskcaj> and seems to have been always
[02:57] <ScottK> We try to minimize the diff.
[02:57] <manchicken> Saucy's broadcom package panics the kernel on install.
[02:57] <Noskcaj> ok
[02:57] <ScottK> BTW, the mail you sent about Qt on pppc is only Qt5.  Kubuntu is currently using Qt4 only, so it doesn't affect us.
[02:58] <ScottK> The Qt5 V8 powerpc port issues should be decided upstream.
[03:04] <tsimpson> I thought they (Qt) had a "V4" engine for where V8 doesn't work
[03:09] <Noskcaj> ScottK, ok, although it does make a stack of your packages FTBFS
[03:09] <ScottK> Yes, but it needs solving upstream, not here.
[03:11] <Noskcaj> ok
[03:12] <manchicken> I think I need to submit a bug for the 3rd party driver installer.
[03:13] <manchicken> It silently exits if there's no network, it seems.
[03:21] <tsimpson> apparently V8 is gone in 5.2
[03:29] <manchicken> ScottK: I think libqapt is using qt5...
[03:29] <manchicken> The latest version...
[03:30] <manchicken> I'm fact-checking myself.
[03:32] <manchicken> I'm wrong, ignore me.
[03:42] <manchicken> Yay... the latest apt-pkg has deprecated a method used by qapt.
[03:48] <manchicken> wtf... why does a `sudo make install` result in erros from GNUmakefile?
[03:53] <manchicken> manchicken@chickenChicken:~/chickenSandwich/Documents/Devel/kubuntu/libqapt$ sudo make install
[03:53] <manchicken> make: stat: GNUmakefile: Permission denied
[03:53] <manchicken> make: stat: makefile: Permission denied
[03:53] <manchicken> make: stat: Makefile: Permission denied
[03:53] <manchicken> make: stat: install: Permission denied
[03:53] <manchicken> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[03:53] <manchicken> Weaksauce
[04:07] <manchicken> Okay, it's an sshfs permissions problem. Great...
[04:07] <manchicken> Okay, I'm going to head to bed. I have an 8AM 10mi run, so I'll jump online once I've finished with that.
[06:26] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, ping
[06:36] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, i'm here
[06:37] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, private message?
[06:37] <Noskcaj> sure
[08:13] <smartboyhw> yofel, we still need to fix kde-workspace also
[08:14] <smartboyhw> Can't access the buildlog, so can't do anything
[08:14] <yofel> are you using chromium?
[08:14] <smartboyhw> yofel, yes
[08:14] <yofel> shadeslayer: ping, found something out wrt. kde-workspace?
[08:14] <smartboyhw> Huh, Chromium doesn't work with that!?
[08:14] <yofel> smartboyhw: use something else ;)
[08:15]  * smartboyhw thinks EVERY browser has a flaw
[08:15] <smartboyhw> For Firefox, everything crashes easily
[08:15] <yofel> Launchpad is really only validated against firefox
[08:15] <smartboyhw> For Rekonq/Konqueror, can't access pad
[08:15] <smartboyhw> For Chromium, can't access LP buildlogs
[08:15] <smartboyhw> yofel, I think they ARE switching from Firefox to Chromium in 14.04 or so, right?
[08:15] <yofel> first time I hear about that
[08:16] <smartboyhw> yofel, they originally wanted to do the switch in 13.10
[08:16] <smartboyhw> But obviously, they can't make it
[08:16] <smartboyhw> (And BTW, it's facing strong opposition)
[08:16] <smartboyhw> For me, it's strong "yes"
[08:17] <yofel> depends. For me firefox works better in general. rekonq is too slow and chromium uses too much memory
[08:17] <smartboyhw> yofel, in reverse, Firefox always crashes for me
[08:17] <yofel> though i have both firefox and chromium running right now
[08:17] <smartboyhw> And rekonq isn't good at anything
[08:17] <smartboyhw> Can't read KDE pads:(
[08:17] <yofel> rekonq is good at desktop integration. And that's it
[08:20] <smartboyhw> yofel, looks like kde-workspace got some symbols again
[08:20] <yofel> it's missing one, shadeslayer was looking at it
[08:20] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah
[08:20] <smartboyhw> I think we will want 4.11.1 out a.s.a.p for KDE SC 4.11.1:P
[08:20] <smartboyhw> Oops, 13.10 Beta 1;P
[11:58] <Peace-> mm sudo service networking restart => kde nework manager crash
[12:22] <smartboyhw> In debian/rules, you define DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH variable but don't use
[12:22] <smartboyhw> it. You also override dh_auto_configure to reinvoke it as is.
[12:22] <smartboyhw> How to reinvoke?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> "Morning folks
[12:40] <smartboyhw> ^ Ignore me, solved that out
[13:23] <shadeslayer> yofel: smartboyhw Eike isn't online
[13:26] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, who isn't online?
[13:27] <shadeslayer> the guy we need to consult regarding the new symbols
[13:27] <shadeslayer> though I think we should just go ahead and patch it
[13:27] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, eh
[13:27]  * smartboyhw volunteers shadeslayer to patch since he has to finish his summer homework for school tmr
[13:28]  * shadeslayer potentially has Conjunctivitis
[13:28] <shadeslayer> can't look at the screen for too long
[13:28] <smartboyhw> Conjunctivities?!
[13:28]  * smartboyhw does not know biology too well for this
[13:28] <shadeslayer> Conjunctivitis, yes, inflamation/swelling around the eye , it's not too much at the moment, just broke out last night, but I need to consult a doctor tomorrow
[13:29] <shadeslayer> kubotu: wikipedia Conjunctivitis
[13:29] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, oh:(
[13:29] <shadeslayer> hmmm ... I suppose that's broken then
[13:36] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[15:34] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1197317] After KDE update in Saucy, PowerDevil does not suspend the system @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1197317 (by Wladimir Mutel)
[19:08] <manchicken> Okay, I need someone to help me help you.
[19:08] <manchicken> FindKDE4Internal.cmake <-- cmake is complaining that this isn't found.
[19:11] <yofel> That file is part of kdelibs5-dev if it's not installed, otherwise please pastebin the output of whatever you're trying to do. 
[19:12] <manchicken> Argh... I think that it's a cache file...
[19:13] <manchicken> I wish there was a good way to say `cmake clean up everything you generated`
[19:13] <yofel> rm -rf ? ^^
[19:13] <manchicken> With cmake, it seems like at least half of all of my trouble is due to cache files.
[19:13] <manchicken> YEah, but where do I delete stuff? :)
[19:14] <yofel> hm, with cmake, the usual way to build something is to make a 'build' folder and run cmake in there, then you can simply delete everything later
[19:14] <yofel> if you ran cmake in the source it's harder
[19:15] <yofel> if it's a git clone you can run 'git clean -dfx' to remove any files that aren't tracked by git
[19:16] <yofel> in any other case I would probably just unpack/fetch the source again
[19:18] <manchicken> No, this time I was actually missing the kdelibs5-dev
[19:24] <manchicken> SWEET! I have a build environment.
[19:25] <manchicken> I might actually be able to do something useful today.
[19:26] <manchicken> I'm going to have to deal with a little bit of trouble using sshfs with the build process, but it seems like if I throw it the reconnect option then it works just fine.
[19:55] <manchicken> Tonio: You there?
[20:09] <manchicken> I love how sometimes a build issue with Polkit or Debconf results in weird errors which have apparently nothing to do with the actual problem.
[21:07] <manchicken> JontheEchidna: Hey man, you there?
[21:07] <JontheEchidna> manchicken: yup
[21:07] <manchicken> So, I'm having polkit trouble.
[21:08] <manchicken> I suspect that it's due to how I'm running this thing.
[21:08] <JontheEchidna> oh?
[21:08] <manchicken> Yeah, I'm running it on an old laptop I'm forwarding X on.
[21:09] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, yeah, that sounds like it could be the problem if you're having problems. Unfortunately I don't really have any experience using forwarded-X
[21:09] <manchicken> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6052834/
[21:09] <manchicken> That's what I'm seeing.
[21:10] <manchicken> So, as a different approach, I'm trying to set up VNC on the laptop and just VNC in.
[21:11] <JontheEchidna> bug 614291
[21:11] <manchicken> But I'm having a hard time finding a VNC server that'll play nice with headless machines
[21:12] <manchicken> JontheEchidna: I suppose that's a problem then :)
[21:13] <manchicken> I can't get Saucy to play nice with wifi drivers, so I just set it up in my closet on a wire and I'm trying to work with it using my ASUS.
[21:33] <manchicken> This is frustrating...
[21:33] <manchicken> I can't get any of the VNC packages on saucy to play nice.
[22:03] <manchicken> I am having no end to trouble with this thing.
[22:15] <manchicken> SWEET!
[22:18] <manchicken> JontheEchidna: So... yeah... trying to remove sources results in ALL sources being removed...
[22:24] <manchicken> apachelogger: Is it okay for me just to go out to the filessytem and delete the file?
[22:28] <manchicken> I'm thinking of cheating, writing the sources to an exceedingly-obtusely named file if we're worried someone might actually have a file written that.
[22:36] <manchicken> Anybody ever install krazy2 before?
[22:36] <manchicken> I'm trying to run this util on the code before I send it to Harald again and make a fool of myself :)