[00:34] What should i do to the new symbols that are suggested on the build status page? [00:35] Noskcaj: which ones? [00:36] if it's kde-workspace, that's missing a symbol and shadeslayer was investigating that [00:49] yofel, i was looking at liblangtag, but really i'm asking about all of them [00:50] i just need something to do [00:51] Noskcaj, what do you want to do? [00:51] (And BTW, we are now in Feature Freeze) [00:51] aah, that build status page [00:52] Noskcaj, you can update those which are "bugfix" releases I think [00:52] he was asking about symbols [00:52] Noskcaj: I would personally leave it, as the package is synced from debian [00:52] yofel, ah, symbols:) [00:52] Heh heh [00:53] I don't think symbols really justify an ubuntu diff just for them [00:53] ok [00:53] * Noskcaj resume playing borderlans [00:53] *borderlands [00:53] ^^ [00:53] The WHAT? [00:54] Hey all, anybody know a thing or two about the bcm nonsense with Saucy? [00:55] That gigantic old HP I had back at UDS-Sevilla, I'm trying to image it using Saucy, but every time I try to install the restricted drivers I get a panic. === manchicken is now known as manchicken-hp [02:24] I have a non-ideal dev setup going, a clean build on this old HP box. I'm not sure how fantastic it'll be long-term, but for now it should help me finish this piece I was doing. [02:26] I'm currently configuring the build environment and all that fun stuff. [02:29] This old HP doesn't really work well with Saucy. [02:30] ScottK: You still doing arm builds? [02:31] I'm just going through the build outcome reports trying to see if there's anything I could find useful. [02:36] manchicken: I can test build something for you if you have a fix you'd like checked. [02:37] I'm just kinda looking at stuff. [02:37] K. [02:37] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/147516816/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-armhf.kubrick_4%3A4.11.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [02:37] That's one I just saw. [02:37] I'm prepping a build environment on an 8-year-old machine, so it's taking a while :) [02:38] Heh. [02:40] I'm still installing prereqs. [02:48] Okay, for this one the answer is pretty simple... [02:49] You have two conflicting definitions for GLintptr. One eventually resolves to `int` while the other resolves to `signed long int` [02:52] There's gotta be some macro that is making it pick on over the other on Intel, because on my x86-64 box: sizeof(int)==4 and sizeof(signed long int)==8 [02:53] On arm, GL is actually GLES. Is it defined differently? [02:54] Yeah [02:54] Does anyone mind if i work on qt4-x11? make it lintian clean(er), add symbols, patch a few things [02:54] The GLES2 is actually the one defining the type to be larger. [02:55] Noskcaj: Changes like that should ideally be done in Debian for qt4-x11. [02:56] It's probably not your best choice of things to work on. [02:56] ScottK, ok [02:56] ScottK, even though it's an ubuntu only version? [02:56] I will need help with the wifi drivers on this HP machine eventually. [02:57] and seems to have been always [02:57] We try to minimize the diff. [02:57] Saucy's broadcom package panics the kernel on install. [02:57] ok [02:57] BTW, the mail you sent about Qt on pppc is only Qt5. Kubuntu is currently using Qt4 only, so it doesn't affect us. [02:58] The Qt5 V8 powerpc port issues should be decided upstream. [03:04] I thought they (Qt) had a "V4" engine for where V8 doesn't work [03:09] ScottK, ok, although it does make a stack of your packages FTBFS [03:09] Yes, but it needs solving upstream, not here. [03:11] ok [03:12] I think I need to submit a bug for the 3rd party driver installer. [03:13] It silently exits if there's no network, it seems. [03:21] apparently V8 is gone in 5.2 [03:29] ScottK: I think libqapt is using qt5... [03:29] The latest version... [03:30] I'm fact-checking myself. [03:32] I'm wrong, ignore me. [03:42] Yay... the latest apt-pkg has deprecated a method used by qapt. [03:48] wtf... why does a `sudo make install` result in erros from GNUmakefile? [03:53] manchicken@chickenChicken:~/chickenSandwich/Documents/Devel/kubuntu/libqapt$ sudo make install [03:53] make: stat: GNUmakefile: Permission denied [03:53] make: stat: makefile: Permission denied [03:53] make: stat: Makefile: Permission denied [03:53] make: stat: install: Permission denied [03:53] make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. [03:53] Weaksauce [04:07] Okay, it's an sshfs permissions problem. Great... [04:07] Okay, I'm going to head to bed. I have an 8AM 10mi run, so I'll jump online once I've finished with that. [06:26] Noskcaj, ping [06:36] smartboyhw, i'm here [06:37] Noskcaj, private message? [06:37] sure [08:13] yofel, we still need to fix kde-workspace also [08:14] Can't access the buildlog, so can't do anything [08:14] are you using chromium? [08:14] yofel, yes [08:14] shadeslayer: ping, found something out wrt. kde-workspace? [08:14] Huh, Chromium doesn't work with that!? [08:14] smartboyhw: use something else ;) [08:15] * smartboyhw thinks EVERY browser has a flaw [08:15] For Firefox, everything crashes easily [08:15] Launchpad is really only validated against firefox [08:15] For Rekonq/Konqueror, can't access pad [08:15] For Chromium, can't access LP buildlogs [08:15] yofel, I think they ARE switching from Firefox to Chromium in 14.04 or so, right? [08:15] first time I hear about that [08:16] yofel, they originally wanted to do the switch in 13.10 [08:16] But obviously, they can't make it [08:16] (And BTW, it's facing strong opposition) [08:16] For me, it's strong "yes" [08:17] depends. For me firefox works better in general. rekonq is too slow and chromium uses too much memory [08:17] yofel, in reverse, Firefox always crashes for me [08:17] though i have both firefox and chromium running right now [08:17] And rekonq isn't good at anything [08:17] Can't read KDE pads:( [08:17] rekonq is good at desktop integration. And that's it [08:20] yofel, looks like kde-workspace got some symbols again [08:20] it's missing one, shadeslayer was looking at it [08:20] yofel, yeah [08:20] I think we will want 4.11.1 out a.s.a.p for KDE SC 4.11.1:P [08:20] Oops, 13.10 Beta 1;P [11:58] mm sudo service networking restart => kde nework manager crash [12:22] In debian/rules, you define DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH variable but don't use [12:22] it. You also override dh_auto_configure to reinvoke it as is. [12:22] How to reinvoke? [12:26] "Morning folks [12:40] ^ Ignore me, solved that out [13:23] yofel: smartboyhw Eike isn't online [13:26] shadeslayer, who isn't online? [13:27] the guy we need to consult regarding the new symbols [13:27] though I think we should just go ahead and patch it [13:27] shadeslayer, eh [13:27] * smartboyhw volunteers shadeslayer to patch since he has to finish his summer homework for school tmr [13:28] * shadeslayer potentially has Conjunctivitis [13:28] can't look at the screen for too long [13:28] Conjunctivities?! [13:28] * smartboyhw does not know biology too well for this [13:28] Conjunctivitis, yes, inflamation/swelling around the eye , it's not too much at the moment, just broke out last night, but I need to consult a doctor tomorrow [13:29] kubotu: wikipedia Conjunctivitis [13:29] shadeslayer, oh:( [13:29] hmmm ... I suppose that's broken then [13:36] Good afternoon. === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [15:34] ::workspace-bugs:: [1197317] After KDE update in Saucy, PowerDevil does not suspend the system @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1197317 (by Wladimir Mutel) === smarter__ is now known as smarter [19:08] Okay, I need someone to help me help you. [19:08] FindKDE4Internal.cmake <-- cmake is complaining that this isn't found. [19:11] That file is part of kdelibs5-dev if it's not installed, otherwise please pastebin the output of whatever you're trying to do. [19:12] Argh... I think that it's a cache file... [19:13] I wish there was a good way to say `cmake clean up everything you generated` [19:13] rm -rf ? ^^ [19:13] With cmake, it seems like at least half of all of my trouble is due to cache files. [19:13] YEah, but where do I delete stuff? :) [19:14] hm, with cmake, the usual way to build something is to make a 'build' folder and run cmake in there, then you can simply delete everything later [19:14] if you ran cmake in the source it's harder [19:15] if it's a git clone you can run 'git clean -dfx' to remove any files that aren't tracked by git [19:16] in any other case I would probably just unpack/fetch the source again [19:18] No, this time I was actually missing the kdelibs5-dev [19:24] SWEET! I have a build environment. [19:25] I might actually be able to do something useful today. [19:26] I'm going to have to deal with a little bit of trouble using sshfs with the build process, but it seems like if I throw it the reconnect option then it works just fine. [19:55] Tonio: You there? [20:09] I love how sometimes a build issue with Polkit or Debconf results in weird errors which have apparently nothing to do with the actual problem. [21:07] JontheEchidna: Hey man, you there? [21:07] manchicken: yup [21:07] So, I'm having polkit trouble. [21:08] I suspect that it's due to how I'm running this thing. [21:08] oh? [21:08] Yeah, I'm running it on an old laptop I'm forwarding X on. [21:09] Hmm, yeah, that sounds like it could be the problem if you're having problems. Unfortunately I don't really have any experience using forwarded-X [21:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6052834/ [21:09] That's what I'm seeing. [21:10] So, as a different approach, I'm trying to set up VNC on the laptop and just VNC in. [21:11] bug 614291 [21:11] bug 614291 in policykit (Ubuntu) "PolicyKit authentication does not work over X forwarding" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614291 [21:11] But I'm having a hard time finding a VNC server that'll play nice with headless machines [21:12] JontheEchidna: I suppose that's a problem then :) [21:13] I can't get Saucy to play nice with wifi drivers, so I just set it up in my closet on a wire and I'm trying to work with it using my ASUS. [21:33] This is frustrating... [21:33] I can't get any of the VNC packages on saucy to play nice. [22:03] I am having no end to trouble with this thing. [22:15] SWEET! [22:18] JontheEchidna: So... yeah... trying to remove sources results in ALL sources being removed... [22:24] apachelogger: Is it okay for me just to go out to the filessytem and delete the file? [22:28] I'm thinking of cheating, writing the sources to an exceedingly-obtusely named file if we're worried someone might actually have a file written that. [22:36] Anybody ever install krazy2 before? [22:36] I'm trying to run this util on the code before I send it to Harald again and make a fool of myself :)