| SomeoneWeird | hey guys, wondering if anyone can help, i've recently upgraded to saucy and my unity search has stopped working, i think it may be the cause of some of the plugins have been uninstalled/disabled but i'm not sure -> http://i.imgur.com/cWBRFpX.jpg | 03:49 |
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| wilee-nilee | SomeoneWeird, Make a list of what you have removed, if you can. | 03:50 |
| SomeoneWeird | bleh, don't think I can, it happened over a week ago i've just been lazy about trying to fix it | 03:51 |
| wilee-nilee | SomeoneWeird, You could make another account, just to compare. | 03:51 |
| SomeoneWeird | hm? you don't mean what packages have I removed? | 03:52 |
| wilee-nilee | SomeoneWeird, there are unity resets for 13.04 you might try that. | 03:52 |
| SomeoneWeird | yeah | 03:52 |
| wilee-nilee | NO to see if it happens there as well. | 03:52 |
| SomeoneWeird | ahh, right | 03:52 |
| SomeoneWeird | sec, will do | 03:52 |
| SomeoneWeird | lmao I think i've really screwed something up | 03:53 |
| SomeoneWeird | tried to login to new user and it just crashes back to login screne | 03:53 |
| SomeoneWeird | *screen | 03:53 |
| wilee-nilee | yes it seems so, o clones or images of the correct runnig setup? | 03:56 |
| wilee-nilee | no* | 03:56 |
| SomeoneWeird | unfortunately not | 03:56 |
| SomeoneWeird | everything is alright for this account (apart from search not working) at the moment so I might make a backup and just leave it | 03:57 |
| SomeoneWeird | probably not worth the trouble fixing | 03:57 |
| SomeoneWeird | (which is probably going to end up being a reinstall) | 03:57 |
| wilee-nilee | clone the install before you tweak it. | 03:57 |
| SomeoneWeird | hrm, i just realized the upgrade i did (about 30 minutes ago) now makes my touchpad scroll not work too... | 03:58 |
| SomeoneWeird | bleh | 03:58 |
| wilee-nilee | I never upgrade myself | 03:59 |
| SomeoneWeird | starting to see why people don't | 03:59 |
| ali1234 | this command should reinstall all the stuff you removed: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ | 03:59 |
| ali1234 | the ^ is important | 03:59 |
| ali1234 | of course, this is +1 so it might just make everything worse | 04:00 |
| wilee-nilee | you can make package install lists save the sources if any extra and their keys and do it much faster | 04:00 |
| SomeoneWeird | that is quite possible | 04:00 |
| SomeoneWeird | it seems i'm missing a lot of unity-scope-* packages | 04:00 |
| SomeoneWeird | what's the ^ do? | 04:00 |
| ali1234 | it means ubuntu-desktop is a package group, not a single package | 04:01 |
| ali1234 | or something like that | 04:01 |
| SomeoneWeird | ah cool | 04:01 |
| SomeoneWeird | ok gunna reboot, if i'm not back in a couple minutes then something else has broken ಠ_ಠ | 04:01 |
| wilee-nilee | That command will show a list of whats new to be installed, in other words the missing, good idea. ;) | 04:05 |
| SomeoneWeird | hrm | 04:06 |
| SomeoneWeird | ok well running that command make things better at least | 04:06 |
| SomeoneWeird | the "social network" icon now comes up in the search | 04:06 |
| SomeoneWeird | but nothing else | 04:06 |
| SomeoneWeird | http://i.imgur.com/gOkZSHY.jpg | 04:07 |
| wilee-nilee | !imagebin | SomeoneWeird that is unreadable | 04:09 |
| ubottu | SomeoneWeird that is unreadable: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. | 04:09 |
| SomeoneWeird | eh? | 04:10 |
| ali1234 | why is it unreadable? | 04:10 |
| SomeoneWeird | E: Unable to locate package unity-place-applications | 04:10 |
| SomeoneWeird | hrm | 04:10 |
| SomeoneWeird | that could be a problem | 04:10 |
| wilee-nilee | the image try a look here. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/ | 04:10 |
| wilee-nilee | same as the 12.10 and 13.04 reset. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04 | 04:12 |
| SomeoneWeird | nup | 04:13 |
| SomeoneWeird | --reset-icons replaced the default icons, still nothing more in search though | 04:13 |
| wilee-nilee | SomeoneWeird, That reset needs a reboot or logout I think, at least the earlier ones did. | 04:17 |
| SomeoneWeird | wilee-nilee, i did :) | 04:20 |
| SomeoneWeird | (rebooted) | 04:20 |
| SomeoneWeird | I have a feeling maybe a lens package is corrupt | 04:20 |
| SomeoneWeird | gunna purge + reinstall all of them | 04:20 |
| SomeoneWeird | hm, nup | 04:30 |
| SomeoneWeird | think i've given up | 04:31 |
| iceroot_ | is MIR now installed by default in 13.10? or is the current iso still only using X11? (on intel vga) | 10:35 |
| bazhang | !info libmirserver1 | 10:45 |
| ubottu | libmirserver1 (source: mir): Display server for Ubuntu - server library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.0.10+13.10.20130829.2-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 542 kB, installed size 1701 kB | 10:45 |
| BluesKaj | "Morning folks | 12:26 |
| penguin42 | "afternoon BluesKaj | 12:41 |
| BluesKaj | hi penguin42 | 12:41 |
| iceroot_ | bazhang: thank you, so as it seems MIR finally reached the repos | 13:15 |
| iceroot_ | not bad one month before the release.... | 13:15 |
| Frank81 | Hello any one in here knows how to fix the problem that there is no usb keyboard regonized on entering luks password? | 14:39 |
| Frank81 | coz since kernel 3.8 + till 3.11 i have no keyboard anymore to enter luks password with 3.8 all work well | 14:40 |
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| Frank81 | can some one plz point me to infos about the bug reporting prozess? | 16:52 |
| IdleOne | !bug | 16:52 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 16:52 |
| Frank81 | the kernel is a package too? shall i simply write the name of the kernel img? | 16:53 |
| Frank81 | hmmm or hmm maybe some one is needed to define that better | 16:53 |
| Frank81 | after upgrading the kernel not all moduls get loaded as needed befor luks gets loaded | 16:54 |
| Frank81 | what package is that? | 16:54 |
| penguin42 | to report a kernel bug it's ubuntu-bug linux | 16:54 |
| penguin42 | oh | 16:54 |
| penguin42 | Frank81: Hmm so all the modules are there they just aren't being added to the initramfs? | 16:54 |
| Frank81 | penguin42: i am right that it is a kernel bug when after upgrading kernel not all needed moduls get loaded anymore? | 16:54 |
| penguin42 | Frank81: Hmm that probably depends why they don't get loaded | 16:55 |
| Frank81 | penguin42: it looks like that yes | 16:55 |
| Frank81 | i upgraded one machine with luks and lvm encrypted the usb keyboard don't gets regonized so i can't enter luks password | 16:55 |
| penguin42 | Frank81: If the modules are broken and won't load then that's definitely a kernel bug, if there is a bug in the thing that makes the initramfs not knowing to load the modules then that might be in the initramfs packages | 16:56 |
| Frank81 | when i boot old kernel 3.8 all works this applys to all kernels after 3.8 till 3.11 | 16:56 |
| penguin42 | Frank81: Do you know that's a problem with modules not getting loaded? | 16:56 |
| Frank81 | i am not a mega linux geek only some advanced user and i can't simply expect any other fail | 16:57 |
| penguin42 | Frank81: OK, file it against linux because it works with older kernels but not newer | 16:57 |
| Frank81 | since it works with 3.8 and i googled this happend to many other distros befor and always it was that hid and usb don't got loaded | 16:57 |
| penguin42 | Frank81: can you get it to work with a non-USB keyboard? What hardware is this on? | 16:57 |
| Frank81 | i have no ps/2 keyboard here and no adapter at present its a normal home pc with a asus mainboard and a AMD CPU i don't know exact chipset at present | 16:58 |
| Frank81 | but normal pc system 8gb ram all standart | 16:58 |
| penguin42 | ok, so you don't actually know it's to do with USB keyboards | 16:59 |
| penguin42 | it might be broken on your machine with all keyboards | 16:59 |
| Frank81 | thats right but i don't think so since it happend on other distros too i googled the whole day | 17:00 |
| Frank81 | penguin42 how would you track or debug that? simply getting a other keyboard? or any other alternate? | 17:00 |
| penguin42 | Frank81: Report the bug first | 17:00 |
| penguin42 | Frank81: I'd try and narrow it down; eg if it's only USB keyboards then you can say it must be something wrong with USB stuff, but if it also fails with a PS/2 then it's probably something else | 17:01 |
| Frank81 | i can't report the bug it complains about the old kernel | 17:01 |
| penguin42 | <back in 30min - need to make a crumble> | 17:01 |
| penguin42 | Frank81: Sigh, that's dumb | 17:02 |
| Frank81 | ok so i simply wait some month with the old kernel and maybe reinstall later ^^ | 17:02 |
| penguin42 | Frank81: You could try a dialy kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/ and see if that works | 17:02 |
| penguin42 | anyway, crumble time | 17:02 |
| Frank81 | ok i have a problem i found a real bug i have now verifyed that the usbhid driver gets loaded and status is ok but usb keyboard don't responds. problem applys to all kernels after 3.8 i can't report the problem with the pc coz i have no ps/2 keyboard and when i wanna do a bug report he tells me that my kernel package isn't a supported one for reporting bugs | 17:23 |
| ikonia | Frank81: manually log the bug | 17:27 |
| ikonia | who is "he" | 17:28 |
| Frank81 | good question where to do so ? | 17:28 |
| penguin42 | ikonia: ubuntu-bug I think | 17:28 |
| ikonia | Frank81: launchpad.net | 17:29 |
| ikonia | Frank81: it would be helpful to get someone else to verify this also and add to the bug report to add weight if it's generic and not specific to your hardware | 17:29 |
| penguin42 | ikonia: Except we don't normally do that for Kernel bugs | 17:30 |
| ikonia | why not ? | 17:30 |
| ikonia | (I'm assuming this is an ubuntu kernel package) | 17:30 |
| penguin42 | ikonia: For kernel bugs it's normally one bug per user | 17:30 |
| ikonia | penguin42: that's why I'm saying if it's something that's generic/specific to his tin | 17:31 |
| penguin42 | ikonia: the normal advice is for kernel bugs to report separate bugs anyway and then figure out if it's shared because common symptoms might reflect underlying cause | 17:31 |
| ikonia | that seems crazy for something that can be confirmed as a mass paroblem as you'll end up with numerous bugs | 17:32 |
| penguin42 | ikonia: I kind of agree, I've been around the loop a few times; | 17:32 |
| ikonia | if someone has the same problem and can verify it, it seems crazy to log multiple bugs to verify it | 17:32 |
| ikonia | if things are different, sure, but if the root cause or the actual bug can be confirmed as generic....it's crazy | 17:32 |
| ikonia | Frank81: up to you how you do it, but personally I would try to confirm if it's generic or not and get an additional party to verify it | 17:33 |
| penguin42 | ikonia: Right, but how is he going to confirm it's generic or not; he just has something where it isn't allowing him to enter his luks password | 17:33 |
| ikonia | penguin42 get others to confirm the same situation, | 17:33 |
| ikonia | narrow it down from there | 17:33 |
| Frank81 | hmm i can't even get it reported logged in browsed the bugs but there was none exact like me one was a bluethoots keyboard and one has problems with a other passpharse | 17:34 |
| ikonia | logging his own bug first then getting (if applicable) additional confirmation | 17:34 |
| Frank81 | hmmm i probally can't verify the bug my self with a virtualbox or such? | 17:35 |
| Frank81 | coz there it is other hardware the virtual one right? | 17:35 |
| ikonia | Frank81: that will give you an idea of it's generic or not | 17:35 |
| Frank81 | ok so i should simply run that on a virtualbox ok | 17:36 |
| ikonia | be interesting to see if you hit the same problem | 17:36 |
| Frank81 | we will soon know it ^ | 17:36 |
| Frank81 | we will not know it | 17:41 |
| Frank81 | virtualbox is now broken too ^^ coz it has updated and whants the new kernel | 17:41 |
| Frank81 | :D | 17:41 |
| alfonsojon | Hi. | 21:06 |
| alfonsojon | I'm on the GT218 chipset (Nvidia GeForce 210) | 21:07 |
| alfonsojon | I tried using Mir, and it failed. When Mir cannot be used, it' | 21:07 |
| alfonsojon | it's supposed to fall back to XMir, correct? | 21:07 |
| Daekdroom | alfonsojon, it falls back to X.org | 21:08 |
| Daekdroom | XMir is what runs X applications under Mir. | 21:08 |
| alfonsojon | Oh | 21:08 |
| alfonsojon | Well, fallback failed | 21:08 |
| alfonsojon | -sort of | 21:09 |
| alfonsojon | I can have a working desktop, but it freezes after a second. | 21:09 |
| alfonsojon | If I switch to a TTY session then come back, it unfreezes, but only for one second | 21:09 |
| ali1234 | that chipset doesnt work well with nouveau anyway | 21:40 |
| Daekdroom | ali1234, as far as I know nouveau is supposed to use Mir, unlike the proprietary drivers. | 21:43 |
| yofel | Daekdroom: nouveau does support Mir, but that's unrelated to the hardware support of nouveau | 21:44 |
| Daekdroom | yofel, yeah, but if fallback happened, then he's probably using the proprietary drivers. | 21:45 |
| yofel | indeed | 21:45 |
| yofel | but hard to say unless really checking in Xorg.0.log what's really used | 21:46 |
| ali1234 | yeah, what i mean is nouveau freezes and crashes with many NV50 series cards even when you use it with X, so using it with mir probably won't be much better | 21:46 |
| ali1234 | also, isn't mir broken on nouveau at this exact point in time, or was that fixed? | 21:47 |
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