[01:32] <sethj> How far alone is the email app?
[01:34] <sethj> Does it support MS exchange?
[01:41] <AskUbuntu> Does Ubuntu Phone connect natively to Exchange? | http://askubuntu.com/q/339896
[01:42] <sethj> oh lol
[01:59] <discopig> hi
[04:05] <AskUbuntu> Phablet-tools install | http://askubuntu.com/q/339915
[04:43] <RobbyF> kind of a shot in the dark here but anyone awake?
[04:44] <RobbyF> the gmail app is essentially a tabbed browser right? can some techy person make a google plus version of it :)
[04:58] <OrokuSaki> https://github.com/jshafer817/UbuntuTouch for myself.. and others.. but more for me
[04:58] <OrokuSaki> Have to add notes
[05:54] <OrokuSaki> Notes added. https://github.com/jshafer817/UbuntuTouch
[06:44] <just> hello
[06:44] <Guest74442> ?
[06:45] <Guest74442> help..
[06:45] <Guest74442> for installing
[06:45] <Guest74442> ubuntu on tablet
[06:45] <Guest74442> slept?
[06:45] <smartboyhw> Guest74442, what happened?
[06:45] <smartboyhw> I mean, what's your problem on installing?
[06:45] <Guest74442> i wanna install ubuntu on my tablet
[06:46] <smartboyhw> Guest74442, yes
[06:46] <Guest74442> from starting..
[06:46] <smartboyhw> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[06:46] <Guest74442> see i have my tab..
[06:46] <Guest74442>  7" ics
[06:46] <Guest74442> is it possible to mod it?
[06:46] <Guest74442> dual core..
[06:46] <Guest74442> 512
[06:47] <Guest74442> 4gb internal
[06:54] <Guest74442> ?
[06:54] <Guest74442> are u hre to help
[06:55] <Guest74442> then hepl me man
[06:55] <Guest74442> i cant install it on my desktop
[06:57] <Guest74442> ?
[06:57] <Guest74442> hey
[07:00] <balachmar> Guest74442: This channel is about Ubuntu Touch, to be installed on mobile devices, what do you want to install on your desktop?
[07:06] <OrokuSaki> lol
[07:06] <OrokuSaki> HELP ME!!!!
[07:06] <OrokuSaki> I will pound sand if you don't!!!
[07:07] <auronandace> poor sand
[07:07] <OrokuSaki> hehe
[07:07] <balachmar> lol
[07:07] <OrokuSaki> hows it going balachmar
[07:07] <OrokuSaki> did you get the kernel config message?
[07:07] <balachmar> I always like to give them the friendly response :)
[07:08] <OrokuSaki> I hate that!
[07:08] <OrokuSaki> Happy Holidays.. says the walmart greeter with a smile.. and I yell.. Merry Fucking Christmas you wench!
[07:09] <balachmar> No such experiences here in Europe I can guarantee you that :)
[07:09] <OrokuSaki> =)
[07:09] <balachmar> When I was in the US, I thought it was weird that the waiter would introduce himself....
[07:09] <OrokuSaki> It's really bad when they go on and on about the restaurant your at
[07:10] <balachmar> But about UT, if I understood you correctly, I just changed a file, where I should have run some config thing on the kernel. But you lost me on how I could actually do it :)
[07:10] <balachmar> So help me, or I will pound sand! :P
[07:10] <OrokuSaki> okay do this
[07:11] <OrokuSaki> mkdir ~/kernel
[07:11] <OrokuSaki> copy your kernel source into that folder
[07:11] <OrokuSaki> what is the name of your defconfig file?
[07:11] <OrokuSaki> mine is cyanogenmod_tenderloin_defconfig
[07:11] <OrokuSaki> so what I do is this
[07:12] <OrokuSaki> cd ~/kernel
[07:12] <balachmar> cyanogenmod_galaxysmtd_defconfig
[07:12] <OrokuSaki> cp arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_tenderloin_defconfig ~/kernel/.config
[07:12] <balachmar> I guess you want me to copy the entire source tree, including samsung etc, correct?
[07:12] <OrokuSaki> or cp ~/kernel/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_tenderloin_defconfig ~/kernel/.config
[07:12] <OrokuSaki> then since your in ~/kernel
[07:13] <OrokuSaki> pico .config (make all your changes)
[07:13] <OrokuSaki> make oldconfig ARCH=arm
[07:13] <balachmar> Should I now revert my changes to that file?
[07:13] <OrokuSaki> this will ask yes or no questions.. answer them
[07:13] <OrokuSaki> yes you should
[07:13] <OrokuSaki> well... yeah
[07:13] <balachmar> ok :)
[07:13] <OrokuSaki> probably not actually
[07:13] <OrokuSaki> you don't have to
[07:14] <balachmar> ok, because it will overwrite it... yes?
[07:14] <balachmar> I amtrying to understand the proces
[07:14] <OrokuSaki> anways.. when you run make oldconfig ARCH=arm hang on well get back to that.. you then answer yes or no questions
[07:14] <balachmar> ok
[07:15] <OrokuSaki> because you changed the .config file, this now creates new yes or no questions for the kernel that are not present in the .config file but need to be
[07:15] <OrokuSaki> so running make oldconfig ARCH=arm will answer the questions
[07:15] <OrokuSaki> then you do this
[07:15] <OrokuSaki> cp .config arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_tenderloin_defconfig
[07:15] <OrokuSaki> or just copy it back to the Ubuntu Touch directory
[07:16] <OrokuSaki> the kernel source MUST be clean so run make mrproper if all else fails
[07:16] <OrokuSaki> Now back to if you should use your current defconfig as your .config file
[07:16] <OrokuSaki> Shouldn't hurt.. you made changes to the config file so.. even if you used a stock defconfig file... you will still have to recreate your changes
[07:17] <OrokuSaki> Make sense?
[07:17] <balachmar> yes
[07:18] <OrokuSaki> I cannot use make menuconfig on my kernel source.. so we make the changes manually in the .config file and then run make oldconfig
[07:18] <OrokuSaki> Or that is what I have been doing
[07:18] <OrokuSaki> Sweet
[07:18] <balachmar> ok, I need to type this in the terminal?: "make oldconfig ARCH=arm"
[07:19] <OrokuSaki> smoke break.. I need to quit.. working on camera.. I think mine is being detected as front facing when I need bak
[07:19] <OrokuSaki> yep
[07:19] <balachmar> Because that doesn't work
[07:19] <OrokuSaki> what happens?
[07:19] <balachmar> make: *** No rule to make target `oldconfig'.  Stop.
[07:19] <OrokuSaki> that means the .config file is not in the root of your kernel source
[07:19] <OrokuSaki> it is hidden when it's called .config
[07:19] <OrokuSaki> you can see it with ls -a
[07:19] <OrokuSaki> you may know that, you may not
[07:19] <balachmar> I know :)
[07:20] <OrokuSaki> =)
[07:20] <OrokuSaki> or try make ARCH=arm oldconfig
[07:20] <balachmar> I think I shouldn't have copied the tree, but just the contents of /kernel/samsung/aries to ~/kernel
[07:20] <OrokuSaki> yes!
[07:20] <balachmar> :)
[07:20] <OrokuSaki> smoke break!
[07:20] <balachmar> (I did ask :P )
[07:20] <balachmar> sure
[07:21] <balachmar> ok, now it is doing something
[07:21] <balachmar> and asking questions
[07:22] <balachmar> ok, nut how do I know the answers to all of those questions?
[07:22] <balachmar> nut = but
[07:24] <OrokuSaki> You don't hang on
[07:24] <OrokuSaki> I looked at a mako config file that was hard to find
[07:26] <OrokuSaki> http://pastebin.com/PuyL1qBe Here it is
[07:26] <OrokuSaki> search that paste for CONFIG_ whatever and see what the answer is
[07:26] <balachmar> ok, thanks!
[07:27] <OrokuSaki> config-3.4.0-3-mako
[07:27] <OrokuSaki> that was the filename
[07:27] <OrokuSaki> you brunch mako and then look at the config file
[07:27] <OrokuSaki> NP
[07:28] <OrokuSaki> Oh yeah... you know the proc patch on the ubuntu porting guide?
[07:28] <OrokuSaki> you don't need that anymore.. that was for quantal
[07:28] <OrokuSaki> Saucy uses LXC container and so this is not required.. I guess that is the reason
[07:29] <balachmar> the procfs patch?
[07:29] <OrokuSaki> and your kernel cmdline needs to be console=tty1
[07:29] <OrokuSaki> will append that console=tty1 to the rest of the cmdline
[07:29] <balachmar> because I did perform that change...
[07:30] <OrokuSaki> You will need to enable apparmor
[07:30] <OrokuSaki> undo it.. it is no longer required
[07:30] <OrokuSaki> I felt the same way.. the ubuntu porting guide is outdated
[07:30] <OrokuSaki> very outdated
[07:30] <balachmar> bummer
[07:30] <OrokuSaki> I think its because saucy is not really.. finished.. as is changing.. and so why right a guide to something your changing?
[07:31] <balachmar> not set is the same as answering no to a question?
[07:31] <OrokuSaki> no this was editing a .c file in the kernel source
[07:31] <balachmar> the last question was about the kernel config bit :)
[07:31] <balachmar> doing two things at the same time :)
[07:31] <OrokuSaki> a/fs/proc/array.c that file
[07:32] <OrokuSaki> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[07:32] <OrokuSaki> don't do that
[07:32] <OrokuSaki> not necessary
[07:32] <OrokuSaki> What kernel do you have? 2.x or 3.x?
[07:32] <balachmar> 3.x
[07:32] <balachmar> running 13.04
[07:33] <OrokuSaki> Good.. look at mako's security and apparmor settings..
[07:33] <OrokuSaki> if you want to know if your cmdline change took affect when the kernel boots
[07:33] <OrokuSaki> cat /proc/cmdline
[07:33] <OrokuSaki> I had to tell my config to force the cmdline or something
[07:33] <OrokuSaki> there was a y n for that
[07:34] <balachmar> ok, patch undone
[07:34] <OrokuSaki> sweet
[07:35] <balachmar> ok, but when in the config of mako it says unset, is that answering no to the question?
[07:35] <jjohansen> OrokuSaki: git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-saucy.git has the apparmor patches broken out for the different kernel versions. Which might help porting to a new kernel
[07:35] <balachmar> And sometimes there is a "" as a value in the config file, that is just pressing return on that question?
[07:35] <OrokuSaki> @jjohansen Oh yeah.. thanks!
[07:36] <OrokuSaki> my kernel is 2.6.35 so I don't have apparmor and had to do apparmor=0 for my cmdline
[07:36] <OrokuSaki> https://raw.github.com/jshafer817/UbuntuTouch/master/Source%20to%20compile/kernel/hp/tenderloin/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_tenderloin_defconfig
[07:37] <OrokuSaki> I remember enabling these... CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y
[07:38] <jjohansen> OrokuSaki: Hrrmm, the apparmor3 patches have only been backported as far as 3.0 atm
[07:38] <OrokuSaki> Yep... I will never get apparmor... =) Or fanotify
[07:45] <jjohansen> OrokuSaki: hrmm a 2.6.35 apparmor is possible and may happen, just not yet
[07:46] <OrokuSaki> sweet.. my friend did it for 2.6.35 but he also backported KGSL.. and I cannot use both.. I tried his patches.. and they appled.. but.. wouldn't boot
[07:46] <OrokuSaki> his backporting kgsl from 3.0.8 from webos kernel... broke the anroid egl driver
[07:46] <OrokuSaki> but works great on freedreno
[07:47] <OrokuSaki> Freedreno is an open source gpu driver for qualcomm adreno gpu's
[07:47] <OrokuSaki> I use it on Ubuntu 13.04
[07:47] <OrokuSaki> non touch
[07:47] <jjohansen> ah, right
[07:47] <OrokuSaki> That is where I was going
[07:47] <OrokuSaki> =)
[07:48] <OrokuSaki> Intereted to see Mir on Desktop with Nvidia
[07:48] <OrokuSaki> Or Mir on Desktop version of ubuntu but on msm8660 as the gpu =)
[07:48] <OrokuSaki> So I can run mono apps
[07:49] <OrokuSaki> My touchpad triple boots webos, Ubuntu 13.04, and Ubuntu Touch =)
[07:50] <OrokuSaki> I should not have brewed coffee
[07:51] <jjohansen> right, well the current apparmor3 backports have been done so that they don't change the kernel abi, everything is internal to the apparmor module, I think that can be done back to 2.6.35 but I don't have time to do it atm
[07:51] <OrokuSaki> Oh wow.. you do that? Sweet! Well... uhh..  that would be neat
[07:52] <OrokuSaki> What about fanotify?
[07:52] <OrokuSaki> Is that really important?
[07:55] <OrokuSaki> if (read_mode_from_config("preview_mode") == 1) {         info->facing = CAMERA_FACING_BACK;     }
[07:55] <OrokuSaki> I notice when I run the camera app.. I believe it says preview mode is 2 or a mode is 2
[07:56] <OrokuSaki> so maybe that is causing ubuntu to say this camera is not facing back
[07:56] <OrokuSaki> and then causing the image to mirror, and rotate 90 degrees
[07:56] <OrokuSaki> dmesg says that mode 2 something 5
[07:57] <jjohansen> fanotify is a lot harder and would require changing the abi to backport it
[07:57] <OrokuSaki> yeah.. I saw that
[07:57] <jjohansen> I don't see it happening
[07:57] <OrokuSaki> I tried it one time.. and I suck at backporting... I realized you were successful, then it changes the android code that goes along with it
[07:57] <OrokuSaki> Which is why qualcomm updates the android code along with an updated kernel
[07:57] <OrokuSaki> something to do with ashmem or memory changes
[07:58] <OrokuSaki> at this point your more or less upgrading the kernel to 3.0.x and you might as well.. just.. use that kernel
[07:58] <OrokuSaki> right?
[07:58] <jjohansen> yeah ashmem, binder, wakelocks
[07:58] <OrokuSaki> yah
[07:58] <OrokuSaki> I remember posting somewhere.. this should be easy... NOT
[07:59] <OrokuSaki> greped for 3 days straight or something
[08:01] <jjohansen> ouch
[09:37] <AskUbuntu> I need help with my Ubuntu touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/339996
[10:19] <markusN00b> Hi, is there a way to access hardware with your app. (SDK)
[10:20] <markusN00b> Let's say I want to turn the light on/off
[12:30] <WebbyIT> popey, mhall119 , did you see that? http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge-reprise-developer-edition
[12:31] <popey> yes, reported it to indiegogo
[12:31] <WebbyIT> good
[12:42] <OrokuSaki> Anyone know if the camera app can take a 640x480 image and change the orientation, or does it not use overlay, etc?
[12:42] <OrokuSaki> I want to rotate 90 degrees
[12:43] <OrokuSaki> I have tried setting info->orientation = 90; info->orientation = 0; in my cameraHAL.cpp file
[14:25] <lauri> Hello, is Eoghan here? The dude who was planning to port Ubuntu Touch to Oppo Find 5?
[14:26] <paco664> good morning.. curious as to what version to install for a galaxy nexus "toro"
[14:36] <OrokuSaki> Anyone know how the camera-app gets the orientation?? grrr
[15:32] <RobbyF> Good Morning Ubuntu Touch friends
[15:55] <rathamst> how much space does a default installation of ubuntu touch take on mako?
[16:15] <AskUbuntu> How much space does a default installation of Ubuntu Touch take on mako? | http://askubuntu.com/q/340097
[17:23] <DrDangerousDave> Nexus 10 keyboard closes when key pressed - known bug?
[18:34] <RobbyF> the gmail app is essentially a tabbed browser right? can some techy person make a google plus version of it? :)
[18:40] <DrDangerousDave> Is there a terminal app I can install on Nexus 10 / manta ?
[18:43] <qdhfgfgh3gg1> Do skype,yahoo,other chat and social communication prog (facebook&twitter) spy 4 israel&usa???
[18:43] <qdhfgfgh3gg1> Do they record and analyse everything we type on the internet???
[18:43] <qdhfgfgh3gg1> هل تتجسس برامج الشات و التواصل الاجتماعى لاسرائيل و امريكا؟؟؟؟
[18:43] <qdhfgfgh3gg1> Do skype,yahoo,other chat and social communication prog(facebook&twitter) spy4israel&usa???
[18:43] <qdhfgfgh3gg1> Do they record and analyse everything we type on the internet???
[18:43] <qdhfgfgh3gg1> هل تتجسس برامج الشات و التواصل الاجتماعى لاسرائيل و امريكا؟؟؟؟
[18:43] <ahayzen-mobile> !ops
[18:44] <Codesmith> Hi, I've flashed ubuntu-touch onto my nexus 4, and I'm wondering if it is recomended to create and use another user besides the default phablet user?
[18:45] <deiu> Codesmith, you should at least change the default password
[18:49] <wellsb> Dang, still network issues on latest build, but this time wpa_supplicant isn't resolving them
[18:54] <abhi_> could someone please give me the link to the latest build for nexus 4 ?
[19:07] <wellsb> finally
[19:15] <pyrex> has anyone tried to install ubuntu on the nexus 7 2013
[19:19] <DrDangerousDave> Anybody out there using Touch on Nexus 10?
[19:26] <discopig> nope, just nexus 4
[19:27] <DrDangerousDave> How is it on Nexus 4? I get all kinds of app lockups and goofy screens on Nexus 10
[19:46] <NitroZZeLLo> Hi Guys! Need info of whom is working on the HTC One S in order to offer myself to help in porting Ubuntu Touch to that phone
[20:16] <petr> hey
[20:17] <Guest78151> someone who already installed the ubuntu touch
[20:19] <DrDangerousDave> Was that a question?
[20:57] <balachmar> OrokuSaki: wow man, many questions for the kernel config. Takes a while if you check everything with another config file... (Haven't been on it continuously, but I have been on it for a bit :) )
[21:23] <OrokuSaki> I have changed my cameraHAL.cpp to say both info->facing = CAMERA_FACING_FRONT;         info->orientation = 270; for all preview modes.. and no change if I change my camera to back or orientation, etc
[21:23] <ulr1ch> et le hack tu t'en sors ?
[21:24] <OrokuSaki> did I hack the sensors?
[21:28] <ulr1ch> (sorry, wrong channel)
[21:28] <OrokuSaki> =)
[23:49] <NYL> should i use flippedin instead of standard tutorial?