[00:02] <kulhas> hi I have a new  mitsai wireless keyboard, but some keys are not working, I am not sure if the problem is from the device since I can test in other system. Does anyone know if this is a common problem?
[00:03] <wiak> is there anyway to run a command to restore everything to default in 12.04?
[00:03] <wiak> default configs*
[00:06] <LeinardoSmith_> I am trying to allow my self to SePrintOperatorPrivalege but I keep on getting:
[00:06] <LeinardoSmith_> Could not connect to server localhost Connection failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[00:06] <LeinardoSmith_> I am using this command:
[00:06] <LeinardoSmith_> net -S localhost -U root rpc rights grant root SePrintOperatorPrivalege
[00:07] <LeinardoSmith_> any ideas?
[00:08] <nomnom213> how many people are actually using ubuntu to connect to this chatroom pm me in privat
[00:08] <ikonia> nomnom213: no need for pm's
[00:08] <ikonia> nomnom213: no need for polls either
[00:09] <LeinardoSmith_> no one knows how to resolve this? NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[00:09] <ikonia> LeinardoSmith_: well, no context, but that looks like a samba error, or an error from a windows AD domain
[00:09] <LeinardoSmith_> I am using this command:
[00:09] <LeinardoSmith_> net -S localhost -U root rpc rights grant root SePrintOperatorPrivalege
[00:09] <ikonia> common with bad samba setup
[00:10] <LeinardoSmith_> because I am trying to use cupsaddsmb
[00:10] <LeinardoSmith_> but I keep on getting: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[00:10] <LeinardoSmith_> on the last step
[00:10] <osolus> I have a major problem, my new mediacenter pc only lets me plug in an extra monitor when windows is running, but if I use linux - no matter what driver I use - the system crashes whenever I try to use two monitors.
[00:10] <ikonia> LeinardoSmith_: well, that looks like your local samba server is rejecting you, probably because there is no such thing as "root" user in samba, unless you set on up
[00:11] <LeinardoSmith_> ikonia I tried adding root using smbpasswd
[00:11] <ikonia> LeinardoSmith_: I'd confirm your authentication is working first - then move onto tasks such as this
[00:13] <LeinardoSmith_> ok what would you suggest?
[00:14] <ikonia> confirming your authentication is working, then trying to do things such as set roles
[00:14] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody here know how can I scan with mfc-j435w in ubuntu?
[00:14] <ikonia> getting "access denied" suggests your basic auth is failing
[00:14] <nurow> Ubuntu's default zip/rar manager seems really crappy. Is there any of them that have a better interface?
[00:14] <ikonia> confirm thats working first
[00:15] <LeinardoSmith_> ok how would I do that?
[00:15] <ikonia> smbclient perhaps
[00:15] <LeinardoSmith_> could we move this to pm? (as I think it might take a little while)
[00:15] <ikonia> sorry no, I'm about to leave.
[00:15] <LeinardoSmith_> ok could you walk me through
[00:15] <Ljube> how to hide my ip here?
[00:16] <ikonia> Ljube: ask in #freenode
[00:16] <ikonia> LeinardoSmith_: man smbclient
[00:16] <ikonia> LeinardoSmith_: look for the auth options and run some basic connection queries to prove authentication works
[00:21] <Anom01y> hi, which nvidia driver should I use for Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[00:22] <Anom01y> which version I mean
[00:23] <sh[i]tstarter> hi
[00:23] <sh[i]tstarter> im here to start shit
[00:24] <sh[i]tstarter> no wait wrong window
[00:26] <LeinardoSmith_> ikonia: are you still there?
[00:30] <LeinardoSmith_> now I am getting: Failed to grant privileges for root (NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_PRIVILEGE)
[00:30] <LeinardoSmith_> when I run: sudo net -S localhost -U root rpc rights grant root SePrintOperatorPrivalege
[00:32] <LeinardoSmith_> anybody?
[00:36] <skegeek> Just installed as a dual-boot with Windows 8, however, there isn't an entry in boot menu to launch Ubuntu instead of Windows.
[00:49] <ese> hi, i install ubuntu 12.04 x64 along with win 7 home premium., i check my hard drive and i have two new partitions (before i only have 2), so ubuntu is installed, but now does not showme grub menu, any ideas?
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> skegeek:  which boot menu> You mean in GRUB?
[00:50] <ese> yes, goes directly in windows
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> skegeek:  or did you do a WUBI install and are using the windows boot thing?
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> the boot-repair tool from a live cd - is the easy way to fix most grub issues
[01:03] <skegeek> No, Windows boot menu.
[01:04] <skegeek> I didn't over-write incase something went wrong, which has happened before.
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> the windows boot menu cant boot ubuntu as far as i know. it can do wubi.
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> you could install grub to a usb flash drive and use that to boot the ubuntu install i guess if you ar really worried about it
[01:06] <skegeek> It has to be possible.
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> I dont see why it would be worth the effort. unless it can be set to chainload the grub from a ubuntu partition
[01:08] <gimmenick> hi, how can i cleanly unmount an external harddisk. i mean, it is unmounted (software) but it is still spinning.
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> if its unmountd you can unplug it.
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> i recall there being 2 ways that th gui 'eject.unmounts' external media. one actually disconnects/powers off the device. to remount it - you must unplug/plug it back in. other way (the normal way) just unmounts the filesystem
[01:10] <gimmenick> it is still spinning as if it were working
[01:10] <gimmenick> also i got error about mounting unchecked fs and so
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> what filesystem is on the device?
[01:11] <gimmenick> so i'm a bit unconfortable with unplugging it
[01:11] <gimmenick> ext2
[01:11] <gimmenick> man sdparm
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> if its Unmounted. then the system no longer can write to it. now it MAY be trying to do a final sync  as part of the unmounting
[01:11] <gimmenick> sorry
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> check 'dmesg' output to see if theres any error messages about the drive perhaps.
[01:12] <gimmenick> all nice
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> does mount say its unmounted?
[01:13] <gimmenick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6049683/
[01:13] <gimmenick> yes
[01:13] <gimmenick> mount
[01:13] <gimmenick> nothing about my external hdd is there
[01:14] <gimmenick> also ftab does not mention it
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> your warning  was given when you tried to mount sdc2
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> fstab dosent need to mention it. ;)   if Mount says its not mounted then it should be safe to remove
[01:14] <gimmenick> i think so - don't know when it exactly came up
[01:14] <gimmenick> the strang thing is: i am sure that sometimes the hdd comes to halt
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> you should proberly be fscking sdc2 some time soon.
[01:14] <gimmenick> wehn i unmount
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> usb drives power down  when not used in many cases
[01:15] <gimmenick> yeah, did that just now
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> mine actually can spin down  while mounted.. so they have to spin up befor i can access them
[01:16] <gimmenick> https://answers.launchpad.net/ejecter/+question/63177
[01:16] <gimmenick> Dr_Willis: see what growningneeds said in there ^
[01:16] <gimmenick> Right-clicking an external USB HDD and selecting unmount still resulted in a spinning HDD with LED lights on. What I do now (in a terminal) is this:
[01:17] <gimmenick> 1. umount /dev/sdb1
[01:17] <gimmenick> 2. sudo sdparm --command=sync /dev/sdb1
[01:17] <gimmenick> 3. sudo sdparm --command=stop / dev/sdb1
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> i just UNMOUNT my external usb hds and pull them out
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> i dont see the need for  the rest of those commands
[01:18] <gimmenick> well, usally that's what i do too - but the hdd is spinning as if it were under load
[01:18] <gimmenick> that's why i hesitate
[01:18] <gimmenick> also it's my backup hdd
[01:18] <gimmenick> :P
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> if you unmount and 'disconnect/power down' the hd using those commands..  then you will have to physically unplug/plug it back in (or reuse the commands) to remount it i imagine. the kernel wont be seeng the drive.
[01:19] <gimmenick> http://askubuntu.com/questions/56270/how-can-i-spin-down-external-hard-drive
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> ive definatly seen people 'unmount' usb devices then gparted wont see them, because they have also been disconnected from the system
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> mine spin down automatically :)
[01:20] <gimmenick> mine do too... sometimes
[01:20] <gimmenick> i can't tell what it depends on
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> the bios/firmware of the drive controller
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> my old hds dont.. new ones all do it here.
[01:22] <gimmenick> hm, mine was bought before summer 2008
[01:22] <gimmenick> udisks --detach /dev/sdb
[01:22] <gimmenick> that spinned it down
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> now see if 'sudo blkid' or 'sudo fdisk -l' shows it
[01:26] <gimmenick> neither of them shows it
[01:26]  * gimmenick reconnects physically
[01:26] <gimmenick> now both of your commands show the ext. hdd
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> so IF you wanted to unmount and repartion the drive/resize the filesystms or fsck them.. thenyou dont want to 'detatch' the disk ;)
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen people have that issue where they unmount/eject (or whatever the file manager said) and it actually detatched the disk. so they couldent work on them
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> they unplug/plug it back in.. it would remount..  they unmount. cant find the disk. ;) it was a endless loop.
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> Had to tell them to use the unmount command of the shell so they could repartion the hd.
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> Ive noticed in teh past that sometimes nautilus would have a 'unmount' and 'eject' on some devices. Im guessing eject some how detatched/powered down the device
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. On 13.10 i notice i got a 'Unmount'  and 'Format...'    'remove and rename' are greyed out,
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> wonder how often a normal user would need a 'format...' item like that
[01:32] <gimmenick> Dr_Willis: it's not about the formating for me
[01:32] <gimmenick> Dr_Willis: i am worried about "hardstopping" a hdd
[01:32] <ese> hi, i have win 7 home primium and installed ubuntu 12.10 x64 in my hard drive, now i have 4 partitions , but my system boots direcltly into windows 7, if have bios set to legacy, system bots but not into grub2, i follow the steps in !grub2 topic but when i try to sudo install-grub /dev/sda the system said error can not boot because grub can not read /boot/grub deal, any ideas or any program
[01:32] <ese> can help me to, the boot-rescue iso does not boot here, thanks
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> its just somthing to watch out for if you ever do need to unmount somthing to fsck, or format, or repartion it.
[01:33] <gimmenick> Dr_Willis: ok
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> ese:   if you can boot a ubuntu live cd., you can install the boot-repair tool onto it and use that
[01:33] <gimmenick> Dr_Willis: i have eject too, but it didn't do anything
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> gimmenick:  so your USB hd has eject and unmount?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> is this a usb flash or usb hd?  see if tey all have the same items.
[01:34] <gimmenick> Dr_Willis: yes. but ejecting doesn't really do anything, when the hdd is unmounted
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> eject - on an optical drive - will open the tray
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> had a guy convinced once that it would also send his usb flash drive across the room.. told him to be ready to catch it....   ;)
[01:35] <gimmenick> :P
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if the differnt menu items also depend on if its mounted via the fstab. or auto-mounted vya the gvfs stuff
[01:36] <gimmenick> hm
[01:36] <gimmenick> maybe it is related to that
[01:36] <wiak> daftykins: ftp goes at 100 MB/s
[01:36] <ese> elso when i change to uefi in bios the grub from my usb boot device goes into text mode and showme a lot more options but none is the rescue mode, if i go to prompt and type rescue grub said can not find that, any ways if i go legacy in bios the usb shoiwme 4 options, try ubuntu, install, memtest and boot into hd, no rescue, ...thank you
[01:37] <wiak> so its only SFTP and SMB that is soo slow..
[01:37] <gimmenick> i mean after all: if i mount it, its more of a gvfs thing
[01:37] <ese> i think my problem is ubuntu installs in uefi mode by default, is there a way i can install in legacy mode?
[01:38] <ese> since windows is in lagacy mode too
[01:38] <gimmenick> Dr_Willis: i think there is a way to see what files and such is currently "open"
[01:39] <gimmenick> somthing with stat in it
[01:39] <gimmenick> it's not in my bash_history any more :(
[01:41] <wiak> holy smokes
[01:41] <wiak> socket options = IPTOS_LOWDELAY TCP_NODELAY
[01:41] <wiak> fixed my samba issue
[01:41] <wiak> wee
[01:41] <FloodBot1> wiak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <ese> Nupercanal stop sending me hated priv messages dude, i dont care if you dont like black people, stop!
[01:42] <Nupercanal> make me ese
[01:42] <wiak> ese ever heard about /ignore ?
[01:42] <wiak> :P
[01:42] <Flannel> wiak: actually, we'd prefer it if you guys report it in #ubuntu-ops, so we can just deal with it instead of making 1600 people use ignore.
[01:43] <wiak> Flannel: aah got a point there
[01:43] <Flannel> (this one was already taken care of, but in the future...)
[01:43] <wiak> will do ;)
[01:43] <gimmenick> Dr_Willis: ok. udisks works with --detach but not with --eject
[01:43] <wiak> Flannel: fixed my samba issue btw =)
[01:43] <gimmenick> Dr_Willis: anyway. i will remeber that i have to pyhsically reconnect if i want to use the hdd later again. thank you
[01:45] <Greg__> Well, it's been about fifteen years since I set eyes on IRC. It's amazing that there are still so many people who gather here to talk.
[01:46] <gimmenick> Greg__: well, i'm good at writing bots :P - the best ones make it to #ubuntu-offtopic and talk non-sense :D
[01:47] <gimmenick> usually i let them pic old bug reports and then they narrate the comments so it looks like a discussion
[01:47] <gimmenick> on dev level :D
[01:49] <ese> hi, is there a way i can force install ubuntu 112.10 x64 install in legacy mode
[01:49] <Greg__> That is actually really funny. I imagine IRC channels are pretty tight-knit communities, I'm sure just by posting this message I'm breaking ten rules of IRC etiquite,
[01:49] <wiak> ese: try the altenative disc
[01:49] <gimmenick> Greg__: well, this is ot. please visit #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[01:50] <SixtyFold> can anyone tell me what the menu application name is for LXDE?
[01:51] <SixtyFold> i want to make chromium always incognito, but doing the --incognito to the shortcut doesnt remain, so im guessing only root has access to change the menu shortcuts
[01:51] <gimmenick> ese: legacy mode is 32 bit mode with a 64 bit OS?
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> SixtyFold, This ought to get you what you need is my guess, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions
[01:53] <SixtyFold> wilee-nilee -thanks
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> no prob hopefully thatus it.
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> is*
[01:55] <vp18> does anyone know why the vidoes on youtube  is buffering so much on ubuntu 13.04?
[01:55] <ese> wiak alternative disk? is in ubuntu repository?
[01:55] <vp18> or any flash videos forthat matter on Linux
[01:55] <xmetal> wow @ game on atm ... not really paying attention to chat atm
[01:55] <SixtyFold> vp18, are you using chromium-browser?
[01:56] <vp18> google chrome
[01:56] <SixtyFold> right
[01:56] <SixtyFold> idk then, you have the most current version of flash, linux and flash dont always get along
[01:56] <SixtyFold> i have no issues with youtube in lubuntu though *shrugs*
[01:57] <vp18> so so should i uninstall the flash plugin
[01:57] <SixtyFold> what version of ubuntu is it and did you try firefox?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> uninstalling and reinstalling to fix things is sort of a 'windows mindset'
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> google-chrome does have its own built in flash however - that may workbetter
[01:58] <ese> wiak can you or someone point me to the "alternative disk" in http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Ubuntu/ ?
[01:58] <SixtyFold> im using firefox with youtube with the old flash in lubuntu and youtube is running perfect
[01:58] <vp18> ubuntu 13.04 and i got google chrome
[01:58] <SixtyFold> so, that might be something you want to try, it's up to you
[01:59] <SixtyFold> i mean, trying firefox with old flash, not having to switch to lubuntu, haha
[02:00] <SixtyFold> but other sites with flash ive been using chromium current edition with it's built in flash and it runs fine too, havent tried youtube in that
[02:01] <SixtyFold> vp18 - also, what are your specs out of curiousity?
[02:01] <vp18> on my laptop?
[02:02] <SixtyFold> hardware wise, yes
[02:02] <zykotick9> vp18: chrome using it's own flash...  try in a different browser.
[02:02] <vp18> AMD A6 Quad core processor
[02:02] <LeinardoSmith_> could someone help me set up cups to serve drivers to windows?
[02:02] <SixtyFold> A6 has integrated graphics right?
[02:02] <vp18> i think yes
[02:03] <SixtyFold> yah, i might be talking out my ass, so someone call me on it, but i believe that could be a glitch too
[02:03] <SixtyFold> amd cards dont work the best with linux
[02:03] <vp18> but i had this for over a year no problem
[02:04] <SixtyFold> when did you start having issues with flash?
[02:05] <wiak> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.3/release/ ese
[02:05] <SixtyFold> i went through like 5 distros and multiple derivatives before i got an acer with an amd c-60 and amd 6250 dedicated graphics card netbook working with linux and youtube without constant glitching and stutters, *shrugs*
[02:05] <vp18> just now
[02:05] <vp18> i even uninstall the plugin
[02:06] <coccinelle> s
[02:06] <vp18> maybe i need to try chronium
[02:06] <SixtyFold> chromium is chrome for linux
[02:06] <SixtyFold> youre using it already
[02:06] <vp18> no just pure google chrome
[02:06] <coccinelle> je parle francais
[02:06] <SixtyFold> how are you doing that?
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> !fr | coccinelle
[02:07] <vp18> google.com
[02:07] <SixtyFold> yah, try chromium man or firefox with the old 11.2 flash, should work, idk why it wouldnt
[02:07] <vp18> they have chrome for linux
[02:07] <zykotick9> SixtyFold: chromium is NOT chrome, they are different.
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> !info google-chrome | vp18
[02:07] <SixtyFold> just sudo apt-get install chromium-browser then
[02:07] <SixtyFold> and try that
[02:08] <vp18> im already downloading
[02:08] <SixtyFold> zykotick9 - i thought chromium was the only google browser available for linux, i thought chrome was just for mac/windows, my bad
[02:08] <xmetal> chrome is chromium with flash built in and google branding
[02:08] <SixtyFold> chromium is the open source version of chrome yah?
[02:08] <xmetal> if i am not mistaken
[02:08] <zykotick9> SixtyFold: yes.
[02:08] <xmetal> other google added stuff too i am sure
[02:09] <xmetal> yeah
[02:09] <ese> hi, is there a way i can force ubuntu 12.10 x64 to install in legacy mode?
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: hows your e17 working out for you?
[02:09] <xmetal> since i (i am not going on a rant about that) dont use anything google now, if i was going to use one (I dont like either, but thats my opinion) ... i'd go with Chromium
[02:10] <xmetal> basically because that is what Google Chrome is based on anyway .. and its open source (lol ... i think)
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> ese: whats your issue exactly?
[02:11] <zykotick9> ese: what is "legacy mode", if you mean 32bit - the answer is no.
[02:11] <xmetal> just fine :) .. never heard of it before you mentioned it ... i go from DE to DE ... basically trying them all out
[02:11] <hanasaki> n931732  go away
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: try using the tab for nick autofill
[02:12] <hanasaki> ummm refur1975  go away..
[02:12] <improvised> I dated a guy named ubuntu once.  He was black as the night and used to "play the bongos" on my ass.
[02:12] <improvised> I dated a guy named ubuntu once.  He was black as the night and used to "play the bongos" on my ass.
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: you can report spammer in #ubuntu-ops
[02:13] <hanasaki> what would cause thunderbird to just show the account names but not the folders?   if I make a new profile and setup the account again it is fine
[02:14] <xmetal> something "wrong" with the profile folder ?
[02:14] <xmetal> (where the mail is locally stored)
[02:14] <SixtyFold> what's e17?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> SixtyFold, a desktop
[02:14] <hanasaki> xmetal:  all the perms aer fine
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> !info e17 | SixtyFold
[02:14] <xmetal> (just a guess)
[02:14] <xmetal> sorry for the fragmented posts too, lol
[02:14] <SixtyFold> is it lighter weight than LXDE?
[02:14] <hanasaki> lotuspsychje:  thanks
[02:14] <kostkon> SixtyFold, naah
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> SixtyFold: remember oldskool enlightment?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, The info was in >config
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> .config
[02:15] <SixtyFold> lotus - naw, never seen that one before
[02:15] <SixtyFold> will have to give it a try though, see what it's like
[02:15] <xmetal> i wanted to try lxde ande e17 on my old laptop but i am having issues
[02:15] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee:  huh?
[02:15] <xmetal> (think the laptop's hardware is dying)
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> SixtyFold: you should try it, i think lubuntu remains the lightest one
[02:15] <zykotick9> kostkon: i'd think e17 and lxde would be "close" in resource usage...
[02:15] <xmetal> i think those two DE's would do good on that system
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, Thought was worng sorry
[02:16] <legend321> Hi there. How do i backup every setting in ubnutu 12.04 without backing up any personal files just in case i mess up anything and may not be able to boot anymore or correct a setting?
[02:16] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee:  what is in config?>
[02:16] <kostkon> zykotick9, i think lxde is lighter, with less graphical effects. i think now e17 is opengl based or smthing. at least it uses a lot of compositing
[02:17] <hayer> since #rtorrent is dead.. what happens if I delete a rtorrent session file?
[02:17] <xmetal> i have to use a crt with it since the LCD lamp is out (not worth fixing that on a "2001/2002" laptop, in my opinion) ... and even just booting the liveUSB, everything seems to be starting fine and then the CRT goes out and doesn't come back on
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> hayer: try transmission aswell, pretty neat package
[02:17] <xmetal> i mean booting up ... its like it shuts off and stays "off" .. the CRT itself is fine
[02:17] <hayer> lotuspsychje: no. im using rtorrent + rutorrent
[02:17] <xmetal> no lose cables either
[02:18] <zykotick9> kostkon: e17 is actually very light... i've only used it myself in it's 16.999 version (almost 17) but it's very light actually (i'd find opengl/composting hard to believe actually - i found it too buggy at the time)
[02:18] <xmetal> my newer laptops is fine with almost all of the DE's (it doesn't 'need" e17 .. but i do like E17, myself)
[02:19] <kostkon> zykotick9, right, i believe you. youve actually tried it, unlike myself, so yeah :D
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, It's .config in home unhide the folders and take a look it is many setups for your regular and added apps.
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> for recent computers E17 will run fine with low resources
[02:20] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee:  thanks... nothing on thunderbird there
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, Yeah I saw that I thought there would be.
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> its all in the .thunderbird folder
[02:24] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee: looks like the easy way is to make a new profile and setup all the accounts again :(
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, were you setting up an encrypt?
[02:25] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee:  nope  why/
[02:26] <zykotick9> kostkon: FYI i see "!info e17" shows ubuntu is using the 16.999 version of e17 (ie NOT the e17 final)
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, JUst thought that might have been a cause, just a guess, someone was on earlier doing that.
[02:27] <kostkon> zykotick9, true. e17 (0.16.999.70492-2)
[02:34] <zykotick9> kostkon: well, i tried e17 0.17.3, it was a 30MB download!  BUT, it's segfaulting in my VM (possibly due to lack of 3d support?  which this VM doesn't have.  or perhaps because it's still buggy ;)  but i can't verify if it needs 3d or not...
[02:36] <kostkon> zykotick9, it could be. i still think it requires opengl capable graphics drivers :P
[02:36] <zykotick9> kostkon: by way of comparison, lxde is a 270MB download!
[02:36] <kostkon> zykotick9, hmm weird
[02:36] <zykotick9> kostkon: e17 is CRAZY light man...
[02:36] <kostkon> zykotick9, lol
[02:38] <TwatScum> looking for some cute gay geek under 18
[02:38] <TwatScum> to cum in his face
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> I rember back ages ago when E was heavy. ;) but that was when a Pent 100 was high end. ;P
[02:38] <TwatScum> pm me if interested
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: true :p
[02:40] <tim> Any one that can help me with LibreOffice Writer macros?
[02:40] <xmetal> i remember when i thought @500mhz was blazing fast
[02:40] <xmetal> how times change
[02:43] <kostkon> zykotick9, hmm 270 v 30. it's a lot. dont know where is coming from. maybe because lubuntu-desktop has a long list of deps. however, just the lxde package alone depends on much fewer packages.
[02:43] <zykotick9> kostkon: that 270 is just the lxde package(s) ;)  it's ALMOST finished installing.
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> tim, Just tell the channel the problem for help. ;)
[02:44] <kostkon> zykotick9, oh ok
[02:45] <mosh> xmetal; now I think my 2.7ghz Dual Core is slow, lol.
[02:45] <ghgh555> hello
[02:47] <raphael> algum brasileiro por ai?
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> !br | raphael
[02:48] <adrimirc> join ubuntu-es
[02:48] <raphael> ok valew
[02:48] <raphael> alguem meche com pentets?
[02:48] <tim> Hello, I am having trouble figuring out macros. Specifically SetRowHeight in libreoffice writer. I used the record macro but this is the only setting that didn't get recorded. I'm positive it is a simple quick fix in the script. What to do?
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> raphael, english here.
[02:49] <zykotick9> tim: i'm 95% sure there is a libreoffice channel (either on freenode or oftc), i'd suggest trying to find it (on freenode try alis, "/msg ubottu alis" for details)
[02:49] <xmetal> hmm there a open/libre office channel ?? ..that may be a better place to look
[02:49] <adrimirc> Hi I need help, when I click in the System Configuration icon the cursor starts to load but the System Configuration menu dont open
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> several closet seemed to be #libreoffice-devs
[02:50] <adrimirc> Can someone help me?
[02:52] <tim> zykotick9: no one is replying so I am trying here...
[02:52] <tim> I feel like any one who know BASIC could help here.
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> tim, ##linux maybe
[02:57] <osolus> Not sure what to try next, I can only get two monitors to work in windows. In linux my system crashes and I am afraid to try again, this problem has occurred with different drivers and on different distributions.
[03:00] <CountryfiedLinux> Where can I get the Ubuntu boot screen and login screen and how do I apply them so they can be used? Thanks in advance.
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, Can you give the back on why they are missing?
[03:01] <zykotick9> kostkon: lxde ends up pulling in, quite a bit of gnome (i guess understandably), which explains it's MUCH larger size than e17.  BUT... e17 failed on my VM, lxde works OOTB!  so my scorecard: e17 = 0 vs lxde = 1 (there is a clear winner from where i sit ;)  thanks for reminding me that e17 exists, and that it's still isn't up to "my" quality standards ;)  [i enjoyed the "test" though :) ]
[03:01] <kostkon> zykotick9, :)
[03:01] <ianananan> I'm trying to figure out why I can't download boot-repair to a linux livecd.
[03:02] <Ben66> ianananan: dylan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:02] <ianananan> I'm running 11.04 (narwhal) and using "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu"
[03:02] <ianananan> but no dice.
[03:02] <Ben66> uh... 11.04 is not supported
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> ianananan, I doubt there is a 11.04 release there, its not supported.
[03:02] <ianananan> mk
[03:03] <zykotick9> !11.04 | ianananan
[03:03] <kostkon> ianananan, 11.04 is eol
[03:03] <ianananan> it's a bit of a dated cd anyway :3
[03:03] <ianananan> kostkon: eol?
[03:03] <Ben66> hasn't been supported since october 2012
[03:03] <kostkon> !eol | ianananan
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> ianananan, this a 11.04 install or just the disc?
[03:04] <ianananan> wilee-nilee: just a livecd
[03:04] <ianananan> Ugh, I haven't got anything recent laying around.
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> ianananan, you can run this for the script to pastebin. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:04] <ianananan> Would it be possible to use boot-repair from an archlinux livecd?
[03:05] <mini> is Linux Mint good? better than Ubuntu 13.04?
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> that is the bootinfo summary on boot repair
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> !mint
[03:05] <kostkon> !poll | mini
[03:06] <mini> ok i relly have not any problems with this 13.04
[03:06] <ianananan> wilee-nilee: Hm. Can I run that script from 11.04?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> ianananan, yep
[03:07] <raphael> --installgrub .... /dev/sda
[03:07] <raphael> of livecd
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> raphael, could be a uefi, lets see the script
[03:07] <raphael> ok
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> and that needs a chroot or mount of the partition
[03:07] <mini> i have 13.04 and have a small usb as wifi, is there a way it can reconnect automatically without me having to click "connect" multiple times?
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> mini, There is auto connect in the network manager, are you asked for a password on the wifi?
[03:08] <mini> yes
[03:09] <mini> and it is set and i just have to click connect
[03:09] <mini> but multiple times
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> mini, That popup I believe has a auto connect box
[03:09] <xmetal> :| i can not comment on that since i have used ubuntu since 10.10
[03:09] <merdam> negroid loving cock suckers
[03:09] <ianananan> raphael: i'm afraid i don't follow
[03:09] <xmetal> (which one is better)
[03:09] <merdam> i bet you all woudl let niggers rape you
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> !ops | merdam
[03:10] <xmetal> aww that windows channel guy is in here now
[03:10] <xmetal> lol
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> mini, THis on the install desktop or one you have added?
[03:11] <raphael> goodnight
[03:11] <mini> i only have 1
[03:11] <LeinardoSmith_> no one knows how to resolve this? NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> mini, Cool, I believe when that password popup pops up it has a auto box
[03:12] <LeinardoSmith_> I am using this command: net -S localhost -U root rpc rights grant root SePrintOperatorPrivalege
[03:12] <mini> ok i will check next time
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> mini, Or it's in the network manager
[03:13] <LeinardoSmith_> anyone know what to do?
[03:13] <mini> no it comes on a pop up window
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> cool
[03:13] <max64> my laptop work with ubuntu 13.4 .. it alwayes get frozen and i have to unplug the electricity .. what is solution?
[03:14] <xmetal> thats NOT good
[03:14] <xmetal> try a different DE
[03:14] <xmetal> !DE
[03:14] <xmetal> (i am not even sure thats the right command)
[03:14] <sam113101> hahaha
[03:14] <xmetal> oops
[03:14] <sam113101> it's not
[03:14] <xmetal> lol nope
[03:15] <xmetal> i can see that now
[03:15] <sam113101> it's de for Deutsch
[03:15] <xmetal> !Desktop
[03:15] <xmetal> thats it
[03:15] <ianananan> wilee-nilee: thanks for all the help. I'm gonna get back at this tmrw.
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> ianananan, no problem.
[03:16] <zykotick9> max64: 1) it's 13.04 2) do you have ANY other details?  did it always happen?  does it happen when you are doing something in specific?  are you using nvidia/ati/other non-free graphics drivers?
[03:16] <LeinardoSmith_> can anyone help me with my problem?
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> max64, WE need details to help, hardware might be a good start, and what you have done so far.
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> LeinardoSmith_, If someone knows they answer generally
[03:17] <LeinardoSmith_> I am using cupsaddsmb
[03:18] <max64> zyko,wille:it was doing well tell 3 months ago .. now it hangs after about 20 min .. i use intel graphic card in HP compac 6730s machine
[03:18] <LeinardoSmith_> and I get this error: Unable to copy Windows 2000 printer driver files (1).
[03:18] <zykotick9> !tab | max64
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> max64, HOw many times have you unplugged it?
[03:20] <max64> wilee-nilee:i alwayes unplug electricity after hanging
[03:20] <hexacode> anyone know anything about a virtual network based computer or is that virtual machine such as xen? i want to hook like 3 rasberry pie-like devices together and have them function as one computer tasking proccesses distributively
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> max64, That can damage a OS alone, how many times?
[03:21] <xmetal> i agree with wilee-nilee
[03:21] <max64> when i start the laptop it get hanged after about 20 min then i have to unplug
[03:21] <max64> i did it now about 3 times
[03:21] <xmetal> when is it hanging?
[03:22] <zykotick9> hexacode: what you are looking for is called "clustering", and that's NOT what xen does (xen is for virtualization, the opposite).  fyi, clustering is pretty complicated...  best of luck.
[03:22] <max64> xmetal:when i open programs
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> max64, I would make another user and see if this happens there, this is a knock out the variables situation, could be any number of possibilities from hardware to software
[03:23] <xmetal> i'd look at what is starting when linux starts ... and remove anything i dont need (also a useful tip to solve issues in other OSs too)
[03:23] <xmetal> thats another way to solve it (@ what willie said
[03:23] <xmetal> oops
[03:23] <xmetal> wilee
[03:23] <xmetal> lol
[03:23] <ironfoot495> Hello is there someone who understands how to run OOP scripts?
[03:24] <julian-delphiki> ironfoot495, you mean object oriented scripts? you run them just like any other script.
[03:25] <ironfoot495> julian-delphiki: Well lamp doesn't seem to do it even with pear installed.
[03:25] <julian-delphiki> ironfoot495, oh, so you're talking php?
[03:25] <ironfoot495> yes
[03:25] <max64> wilee-nilee:http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-09-01_05_24_02-WPLPUKX4.png
[03:26] <ironfoot495> julian-delphiki: Do you have any Ideas???
[03:27] <zykotick9> hexacode: sidenote - if you happen to compile a lot of gcc code, look into distcc (that i had a lot of success with, back in the day).  but other then that, i did have some kernel based linux clustering support back-in-the-day as well, but i forget what is was called open<insert3lettershereiforgetnow>.  hope it's easier now a days.
[03:27] <ironfoot495> julian-delphiki: I've googled myself sick and have still not got the answer!
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> max64, Why the picture?
[03:27] <xmetal> there a scripting channel?
[03:28] <max64> wilee-nilee:i think the processor fan suddenly go aloud voice
[03:28] <max64> wilee-nilee:the picture show the programs working and the CPU power
[03:28] <xmetal> i would either do what i said (obvously :P ) or what wilee suggested ... create another user and see if ithat hangs too or on the "hanging" profile/user ... look at how many things is starting
[03:29] <xmetal> and remove things (uncheck them "auto starting")  you dont need at bootup
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> max64, its gone now and really not an answer to making a new user.
[03:30] <xmetal> i had the distro i use do that ... i was downloading as much as i could on high speed and that distro was crippled on bootup .. i found all my installing (packages) added a ton of startup items ... i unchecked those and it was back tonormal again
[03:30] <xmetal> to normal *
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> max64, Install lm-sensors and check the temperatures maybe, I can't really go through every possibility for one.
[03:32] <max64> wilee-nilee:i just added a new account
[03:34] <xmetal> :) @ though old ... i just picked up a (non-wireless) router from linksys for $1 at yard sale
[03:34] <xmetal> working perfectly
[03:35] <max64> wilee-nilee:how top open lm-sensors?   i installed it
[03:37] <conathan> Greetings.  I was looking for some help with apt-get on 13.10.  To install a 32bit package on a 64bit os, I thought you could use apt-get install libsdl2-dev:i386, or libsdl2-dev:amd64.  I get package not found when I attempt to do that.  (Using a debootstrap created chroot of 13.10)
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> lm-sensors | max64
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> ! lm-sensors | max64
[03:39] <max64> ubottu:i opened link .. ty ^_^
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | conathan
[03:40] <conathan> Thanks, (also not sure if it's specific to ubuntu 13.10 or not)
[03:41] <conathan> yeah, confirmed.  Something to do with my debootstrap environment that acts differently then ubuntu
[03:41] <Jacnoc> [amsg] Death to America
[03:43] <mre> I have a barebones install of precise (via docker) that gets a permission denied when 'sysctl -w fs.file-max=262144' while the host 'full' install of 13.04 does not. What would prevent the changing on particular sysctle settings? Apparmor's not running, limits.conf has none set, ...
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> Jacnoc, https://twitter.com/joshuaacasey
[03:45] <SomeoneWeird> hey guys, wondering if anyone can help, i've recently upgraded to saucy and my unity search has stopped working, i think it may be the cause of some of the plugins have been uninstalled/disabled but i'm not sure -> http://i.imgur.com/cWBRFpX.jpg
[03:45] <conathan> lotuspsychje: Got it fixed, just needed a dpkg--add-foreign-architectures=i386
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | SomeoneWeird
[03:48] <SomeoneWeird> wilee-nilee, I know, I was just wondering if anybody had any suggestions.
[03:48] <SomeoneWeird> i can live without it, I know it's in development :)
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> SomeoneWeird, Use the correct channel is all. ;)
[03:49] <SomeoneWeird> ohh
[03:49] <SomeoneWeird> right, thanks :)
[03:54] <conathan> lotuspsychje: oh sorry, meant --add-architecture
[03:54] <jonatanbs> Boa noite
[03:56] <cfhowlett> !english|jonatanbs,
[03:56] <zerocom> hi, I'm using ubuntu 12.04 on an inspiron 14z and having problems wuth my usb ports. sometimes it works sometime doesn't works. can someone help me?
[03:57] <cfhowlett> zerocom, you sure it's the ports?  usb sticks do fail ...
[03:58] <zerocom> the usb pendrives and discs are ok, the ports are ok too because I tested with other OS. when I said ports I wish to say the problem is in ubuntu. sorry
[04:01] <cfhowlett> zerocom, what's the behavior that makes you suspicious.  details ...
[04:03] <sethj> grahamsavage, did your issue ever get resolved?
[04:03] <sethj> cfhowlett, perhaps you know?
[04:03] <zerocom> ok, sometimes when I connect pendrives or my external discs nothing happens. Then I try again and again.
[04:04] <zerocom> is an intermittent behaviour
[04:05] <zerocom> I have usbmount installed
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> zerocom, you install that due to problem?
[04:07] <zerocom> yes, reading a tutorial in the web, but I know  its doesn't work becausa before install the problem was the same
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> zerocom, Any fat or ntfs partitions that may need a chkdsk?
[04:09] <zykotick9> zerocom: the next time that "stuff" happens, open a terminal, and type "dmesg" it'll scroll a lot of stuff past you, but read the end stuff (that you can still see).  look for stuff dealing with sdXY.  when you unplug/replug the USB, try running dmesg in between and looking for changes (on that same last screen, that you can actually see when you run dmesg ;)
[04:09] <hongker> exi
[04:12] <zerocom> zykotick9, I tried that, but don't remember the results, I will try again.
[04:12] <zerocom> wilee-nilee, my pendrive and discs works fine on another OS and in my smartTV
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> zerocom, What other OS?
[04:13]  * zykotick9 is unignoring wilee-nilee, although he recommeds using non-free software on a regular bases...
[04:14] <zerocom> Win XP
[04:14] <zerocom> in my works there is a Win XP machine
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> zerocom, Linux is picky if the partitions are corrupted is all, XP working not a comparison.
[04:15] <zerocom> ok
[04:15] <zerocom> what do u recommend?
[04:15] <conathan> Working with multiarch,  how would you install the 32bit and 64bit versions of libpng12-dev?  apt-get install libpng12-dev:i386 libpng12-dev:amd64 conflicts.
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> zerocom, if those are MS formatted partitions I would consider checking them in computer with a right click or running a chkdfsk /f/r on them
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> chkdsk /f/r that is
[04:16] <zykotick9> conathan: not all packages are multiarch capable... some do conflict... good luck.
[04:17] <conathan> ah.
[04:19]  * zykotick9 is re-ignoring wilee-nilee, because he supports non-free software on a regular bases...  [OPs: i know annoucing ignores is frowned upon, it's only because i annouced the unignore, that i'm doing this]
[04:19] <conathan> zykotick9: I think the lucked helped,  been working on this half the day, and just realized why it's conflicting.  I'm installing the dev packages, while it's the i386 libraries I wanted to install
[04:19] <zykotick9> conathan: ;)  glad you figured it out man!
[04:20]  * xmetal wonders if anyone really cares
[04:20] <xmetal> lol
[04:20]  * conathan has an interest
[04:31] <tomas_> Hi
[04:31] <tomas_> I need use a web browser without the X server
[04:32] <bookmage> links or lynx from command line
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> or w3m, or search the repos for others we cant rember
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:34] <zykotick9> tomas_: use elinks if you want to get to any "modern" sites (most STILL don't work, more a lot more the links2 or lynx)
[04:34] <zykotick9> s/more a lot/but a lot/
[04:35] <bookmage> do u really need a browser and not jsut wget to dl a file?
[04:36] <zykotick9> bookmage: wget & rsync FTW
[04:36] <tomas_> zykotick9: Ok :D
[04:41] <osolus> is there a shortcut to get the dashboard thingy on the right hand side of my screen to show up, for some reason in VNC it doesn't want to respond to my mouse on the edge
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> osolus, have you checked the sensitivity?
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> tap the windows key
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> or click on the top left button.  but err..the dash is on the left.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Unity over VNC may be problematic and sluggish
[04:44] <bouma> ive googled, but there is so much noise; im looking for a net meter
[04:44] <bouma> one that keeps records of data transfered
[04:44] <bouma> system monitor is ok, but it resets the count every boot
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  askubuntu.com has a list of indicator applets that might have one that does what you want
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> I was thinkin conky did it for me with my conky theme.setup. but it Might reset after boot
[04:47] <bouma> im looking for something that will just install and that has a gui, dont want to setup rc and cron
[04:48] <MacMan2020> سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !arabic
[05:05] <osolus> I can't send the super key combination shortcuts over vnc, how can I make the dash show up?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> hmmm
[05:32] <oicory> hmmm
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> oh now a hmmm caused earth quake
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> no*
[05:35] <oicory> tis quiet in here. I came here to watch silently... But its too silent.
[05:35] <oicory> I'll go break my ubuntu server and brb so I can ask questions.
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> Heh
[05:38] <xtriz> wilee-nilee, you there ?
[05:39] <xtriz> is anyone over here using cinnamon ?
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> I'm here I don't use cinnamon though
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> !dfind cinnamon
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> !ffind cinnamon
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> !find cinnamon
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> in 13.04
[05:40] <xtriz> wilee-nilee, yesterday i stumble upon your http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2002028&page=8
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> its even in the official repos now. ;)
[05:40] <xtriz> this proved quite useful for me :D
[05:40] <pero> i've been trying to find a way to enable the unity gmail webapp for an hour with no luck? how/where can I do this?
[05:40] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, in official repos it is 1.6 and current version is 1.8 so i was trying to get 1.8 version.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> then you would want to find a PPA.
[05:41] <xtriz> what i wanted to ask is, if multiple DE are installed they will interfere with each other and offer obstacles in proper functioning ?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> pero:  i thought when you went to the gmail site it should just ask to enable the webapp thing. but i really find the whole webapp 'feature' a bit useless
[05:42] <pero> no it doesn't do that - i'm using chromium and on 13.10
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> xtriz, I remember that thread that took awhile to get them cleaned up took a chroot. ;)
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> I thought webapps only worked with firefox.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> but i could be wrong
[05:42] <pero> i'm finding my tabs a little cluttered these days so I wouldn't mind leaving trying it out in the unity panel
[05:42] <xmetal> no
[05:43] <pero> it's supposed to be chromium and firefox
[05:43] <xtriz> i have installed using the ppa, everything works, but only issue i am facing is slight lag, when i drag my windows it get's bit blurred during the motion .
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> my unity panel is to cluttered. ;)
[05:43] <xmetal> i run Linux Mint with a number of DE's and they do not "harm" each other
[05:44] <xtriz> xmetal, they work absolutely fine without any prob ?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  ive definatly seen people break things by trying some de's :) that dont like others.. like trying to put gnome2 on with gnome3 and so forth. ;)
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  there may be some effects settigns you can disable.
[05:44] <xtriz> because right now i have xfce, unity, cinnamon and elementary :P
[05:44] <xmetal> well 2 versions of the same DE in a sence
[05:44] <xmetal> i could see issues then
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> try getting gnome2 going with gnome-shell ;) and you will see pain.
[05:45] <xmetal> i have mate, Cinn, xfce, lxde, e17 (enlightenmint)  all behave fine
[05:46] <oicory> I just use bash shell and links. I need to upgrade to this decade.
[05:46] <chaos_> May someone help me?How to solve the problem "warning: ft_render: skipping missing glyph for character"?
[05:47] <xmetal> i have noticed that cinn in mint 15 in lagging though in 14 on the same machine it was fine
[05:48] <xmetal> i think cin 1.8 (for mint 15) and cinn 1.6 (??) for mint 14
[05:48] <xtriz> xmetal, yeah correct
[05:49] <xmetal>  i am not sayings its impossible .. but if you stick with the repos ... you should be ok (as in not having DE's conflict)
[05:49] <xmetal> i have not experienced any issues with having "too many DE's"
[05:50] <xtriz> xmetal, good :)
[05:50] <xtriz> so i can move forward experimenting things.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> ages and ages ago.. if you had kde and gnome both installed. :) it could cause weirdness.. but i havent really seen any issues with differnt de's in well.. years
[05:53] <xmetal> in mint i even downloaded (i think i have the name right) "ubuntu-desktop" (I am sure this means Unity with a few extras)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> meta packages just pull in a lot of other packages. an easy way to 'group' things
[05:53] <xmetal> (while i was on high speed internet and was downloading as much as possible)
[05:54] <xmetal> and i backed up all the DEBS too :)
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> but now they are all outdated. ;P
[05:55] <xmetal> lol true
[05:55] <xmetal> i love downloading software and then after its installed it says "new version availible"
[05:56] <xmetal> i mean i JUST downloaded it
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> with gentoo.. by the time you got the latest compiled.. theres a new version.
[05:56] <oicory> I went from here to Gentoo once.
[05:56] <oicory> Tis a silly place.
[05:57] <oicory> Arch is nice, but I always come back to Ubuntu
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> I dont have much need for the other disrtos on my PC.  now on my Pi. I play with some of the differnt ones.
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> but they tend to be more specilized
[05:58] <oicory> I actually want about 3-6 Pis because I want to play with VMs
[05:58] <xmetal> ah not as bad as slackware (I love slackware but its a pain at times) ... have to install 100 dependencies from the tarballs, mannually
[05:58] <xmetal> then you end up forgetting the INTIAL program you were trying to install in the first place
[05:58] <xmetal> lol
[05:59] <oicory> Yea, I had the same problem with Gentoo. Spent 4 hours trying to set the correct use flags to get the dependencies for Firefox
[05:59] <oicory> Then forgot what I was trying to install... When went to go try to google how to do something and was like "Oh yea. Need a browser"
[06:00] <xmetal> i mean I (before version 14) last use mint when @ Ubuntu 9.04 was out ...and wanted to try Mint again .. If i was on high speed and/or had more pc's (to try it on) .. I'd get the newest ubuntu
[06:00] <xmetal> i think the two are so similar though
[06:00] <xmetal> i like trying new distros (just to see what they are like)
[06:00] <xmetal> :)
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> i dont see much point in Mint.  Some of their projects are finally making it into the default ubuntu repos however.
[06:02] <xmetal> either or
[06:03] <xmetal> i know i get grief for mentioning mint in here sometimes, but they are so alike i think, that many of the issues a user may have (say with a DE) would apply to either Idstro
[06:03] <xmetal> ack
[06:03] <xmetal> distro *
[06:03] <xmetal>    back when i tried mint (version number ???? ) when Ubuntu 9.04 was new ... they looked 100% alike to me
[06:03] <xmetal> ( i am sure there may have been suttle diffewrences though)
[06:04] <xmetal> -w
[06:04] <xmetal> dang fingers this time of night
[06:06] <oicory> 2am here. cant sleep.
[06:13] <universal> I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras package....but something went wrong and flashplugin-nstaller and mscorefonts did not install and now I downloaded flash archieve from adobe and copy pasted flash file it in browser directory ...but its still saying flash missing....whats wrong ? how to fix it ?
[06:13] <lemonsparrow> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.1/mysql-client-5.1_5.1.61-0ubuntu0.10.10.1_i386.deb   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
[06:13] <lemonsparrow> getting this error while trying to install mysql
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> try a differnt mirror perhaps.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> you have done an sudo apt-get update  recently?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> universal:  id reinstall the flash-installer package from the repos. and let it do it
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> universal:  the askubuntu.com site may have some guides on how to properly use the flash archive from adobe. I never use it that way
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> If adobe changes the version# or somthing to their flash archives on their sites - it can break the flash-installer package/tools unfortunatly. Untill they get changed.
[06:16] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: to me ?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:  yes. try a update/upgrade and try again. if still fails. try another mirror
[06:19] <universal> Dr_Willis: well the version in adobe archieve and ubuntu repo is same - falsh- x.x.202.297 and I did it before so i know its works.....but I dont know what happened this time.....maybe the ubuntu-restricted-extras package flash script is still hanging on for download and install and maybe thatswhy its blocking blocking it ?
[06:20] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: when I do sudo apt-get update this is what I get http://pastebin.com/U6wQSYgg
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> ubutu-restricted-extras just pulls in the flash-installer package  same as if you installed it by itself.
[06:20] <universal> I also did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer but it says its already installled and of the newest version
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> perhaps 'reinstall' the flashplugin-installer
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> !maverick
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:  you are using 10.10 ?
[06:21] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: yes
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> notice how ALL the servers are 404? ;)
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> its End of Life..  its time to upgrade.
[06:22] <universal> yea....but that time it was unable to fetch it.....and there is a script for flash and mscorefnts in ubuntu-restricted package for a later download and install...that I clicked to download and install now
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> once a release goes EOL the servers get moved to some archive-servers so those in your sources.list are no longer valid.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> !eol
[06:23] <lemonsparrow> when I try to update to 11.04 from update manager it says fetching failed. There may be a n/w problem
[06:23] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: ^
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> see the !EOL url given. you MUST alter your sources.list
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Or just do a clean install. (faster)
[06:25] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: can I do clean install without having to format or backup ?
[06:25] <universal> wtf.....I purged the flashplugin-installer package and it marked it for removal ad started downloading mscorefonts now Dr_Willis
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:  err.. you do a clean install. its a clean system. No backups = you lost anything on the system.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> thats sort of what 'clean' means., :)
[06:27] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: this is how my source.list looks http://pastebin.com/CYmh0YUG can you modify this for me as to how it should be really look like
[06:27] <mascotte> ciao
[06:28] <mascotte> !list
[06:28] <Zenger> Hi guys could you please help me, my sound has suddenly disappeared. I'm sure the my headphones are okay, because when I boot into windows the sound is okay.
[06:29] <Zenger> I didn't do anything in particular. Didn't modify the sound driver or anything since the instalation of my system.
[06:30] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: ?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:  i always do clean installs. so ive rarely had to  fight with upgradeing a release AFTER its gone eol.
[06:31] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: help me please..
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> looks like you dident change archive in all the lines at the end.
[06:32] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: I dont know much abt these stuffs.. I wanna get through this without much time.. like I dont wanna do format n all that something easy and fast :)
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> reinstalling most lilkely will be faster then upgradeing
[06:34] <zykotick9> Wizrd: i'd look at ~/.bashrc (but it's not something i do)
[06:34] <mascotte> ciao
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release/237118#237118
[06:34] <mascotte> list!
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> no list here mascotte
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> why are you even listing?
[06:34] <mascotte> yes
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> mascotte:  we really want to know whats with all the spammy listing allt he time
[06:36] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: thanks.. will that answer help ?:)
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:  that askubuntu.com url seems clear to me
[06:36] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: I just need to do that ? :)
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> To get apt-get working again, change your software sources to the old release repositories........
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> rename your sources.list and make a new one with the 5 lines they say
[06:37] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: ok
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:  and you want to upgrade 10.10 to what exactly?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> the !listers never explain why they are !listing ;)
[06:38] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: I dont reallly care much abt upgrade as long as everything is installable and I can continue working on this version
[06:38] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: so I guess this answer should help me right /
[06:39] <ok259> I installed Ubuntu erasing everything else on my HD, and now the machine will not boot. I can still boot from CD, but the machine doesn't find any 'proper boot device' on startup. I'm using a toshiba satellite P855-335, I'm happy to supply further details.
[06:42] <Akiva-Mobile> I think I may have a fairly major bug. I have been using gimp to export my saved images on my computer, and just now the files that I have saved are not showing up, except in certain dialogues
[06:42] <Akiva-Mobile> for example, nautilus will not show the file
[06:42] <Akiva-Mobile> however if I try to upload a file, say a picture to imgur
[06:42] <Akiva-Mobile> it will find the file,
[06:42] <Akiva-Mobile> however it will fail to upload
[06:42] <Akiva-Mobile> Any ideas what is going on?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:  continueing with a unsupported relase is a rather poor idea
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Akiva-Mobile:  does the shell show them?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> could be Nautilus just has some sort of cache/refresh issue and not seeing the directory changes
[06:45] <Akiva-Mobile> ls does, yah
[06:45] <Akiva-Mobile> Dr_Willis: I am preparing to do a restart >_>
[06:45] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: its working it seems :D
[06:46] <helmut_> hi
[06:48] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: are u a doctor ?
[06:48] <BenL> Ubuntu 13.10 when release
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> oct
[06:49] <BenL> Helo?
[06:50] <BenL> Oh
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> BenL: for the future 13 = 2013 10 = tenth month
[06:50] <BenL> Now sept
[06:50] <BenL> I think oct
[06:50] <BenL> Sorry
[06:50] <BenL> Lubuntu!
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> 'when its done' ;)
[06:52] <amin> Ucweb.com
[06:52] <ok259> Is my question in scope for this channel? I'm happy to go elsewhere if it isn't...
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> !uefi
[06:54] <auronandace> ok259: what was on the machine before you tried installing ubuntu and how did you install ubuntu?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> id check the forums and askubuntu.com for info on that exact make machine also ok259
[06:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: thanks for informing me of backtrack's rebirth as kali. I just booted the iso from / using grub and installed it, and I must say it's very nice.
[06:56] <ok259> Before I installed, I had a windows 8 partition and a rotten Ubuntu 13.04 install, due to nvidia drivers installation attempts. The whole system was a bit rotten, which is why I tried a complete wipe out and install
[06:56] <auronandace> ok259: look at the uefi link
[06:56] <ok259> (@auronandance)
[06:56] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: solved the issue.. so happy http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release/237118#237118
[06:56] <basit> does anyone know a good channel for cfd?
[06:57] <tozen> hi all! does anybody able to advise me to how to disable sme hardware using console 4xsample touchpad or cardreader... thx
[06:57] <ok259> thank auronandace, I'll give it a try
[06:57] <lemonsparrow> basit: what is cfd ?
[06:57] <basit> cfd = computational fluid dynamics
[06:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> now, I've a question. I have a very nice ls -laF| awk pipe that basically does ll but shows numeric chmod codes instead; is there a way to use it as a bash alias or something of that nature? I've tried it a few ways, no dice as of yet. using the command manually in terminal functions properly.
[06:57] <basit> branch of engineering for solving flow problems numerically
[06:58] <GH0> So, I have been running into this problem: http://pastebin.com/7RYkX65R when I attempt to mount a drive that has been recovered from a corrupt file system. I was wondering if anyone could help me out.
[06:58] <auronandace> !alis | basit
[06:59] <basit> ntzrmtthihu777: i have limited knowledge but can't you just put alias ll=... in your bashrc?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> make a bash alias, or  a script that does the command.
[07:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> basit: you would think so, but it doesn't function. Perhaps I need to escape some "'s or something, or maybe bash aliass cannot handle for loops and such...
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> spaces in file names = a common issue
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> its also considered somewhat poor practice to pipe ls output  :) but if it works...
[07:01] <basit> ntzrmtthihu777: can't you make a script, include it in your path and then use that scripts name as an alias? i think that might work
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> ask in #bash and pastebin the whole command and lets see
[07:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6050338/ << I removed the \ to make it one line, however.
[07:03] <oicory> night yall
[07:04] <tozen> hi all! does anybody able to advise me to how to disable some hardware permanentely or temporaly using console 4xsample touchpad or cardreader... thx
[07:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: will do, lol. I'm using a cellphone hotspot, so I had to figure out sasl to even get in here XD
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> tozen: if it's software it will never be disabled permanently
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  it works in a script here.
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> #!/bin/bash  and your command
[07:05] <tozen> aeon-ltd: not a software but hardware...
[07:05] <aeon-ltd> no if it's software disabled
[07:06] <poz_> hi guys, I am having some audio problems. I have an hdmi cord going to my tv. I am assuming it is out of the HDMI/display port 1, but that option does not show up in the sound settings
[07:06] <poz_> None of the other options work to send sound to the tv
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> ls poz_  tried the pavucontrol tool? does it even show a hdmi device?
[07:07] <MrHotsauce> so im installing debian stable on my netbook and i accidentally screwed up on installing grub to the hard drive (fresh install) i cant boot into the os is there anyway to use the install cd to install grub without redoing the whole install?
[07:07] <poz_> it shows hdmi/display port 2 though 4
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | MrHotsauce  - and this is Ubuntu support. ;)
[07:07] <aeon-ltd> MrHotsauce: supergrubdisk? it's been a while since i used it though
[07:07] <poz_> have not tryed the pacucontrol tool yet
[07:07] <poz_> pavucontrol*
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> poz_:  ive had to twiddle with the pulse tools in the past. not so much in recent releases
[07:08] <MrHotsauce> oh sorry i have ubuntu and debian channels right next to each other
[07:08] <poz_> i am installing the pavucontrol tool right now
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> that boot-repair url has a guide/link to a boot-repair live cd MrHotsauce  :) it may work on  Debian
[07:10] <poz_> Dr_Willis, pavucontrol does not help
[07:10] <MrHotsauce> thanks ill try that once its done downloading i tried using the install cd to install grub again but it wants me to partition my disc again and i really dont want to go through the whole install again lol
[07:12] <Neozonz> I'm trying to launch a sh script upon login, I've put it in startup applications - but it doesnt load... can anyone assist?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> what does the script do.. and you did make it executable?
[07:14] <Neozonz> chmod +x start
[07:14] <Neozonz> exec command is bash /home/username/start
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> so the script is running another script?
[07:14] <Neozonz> yes
[07:14] <Neozonz> it's calling a bin
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> and what is the other script doing exactly? whats its starting up
[07:15] <Neozonz> #!/bin/bash
[07:15] <Neozonz> export GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
[07:15] <Neozonz> export GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1
[07:15] <Neozonz> ./cgminer-3.3.4-x86_64-built/cgminer
[07:15] <Neozonz> ^does the above'
[07:15] <FloodBot1> Neozonz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> your use of relative paths are  a POSSIBLE issue
[07:15] <republican_devil> does ubuntu use nfs v 3 or 4?
[07:15] <republican_devil> what is the default rsize?
[07:15] <Neozonz> ok iwll fix and retry thx
[07:15] <poz_> anyone else have any other ideas on how to fix this sound problem?
[07:15] <republican_devil> alsamixer
[07:15] <republican_devil> :)
[07:16] <HypnotiX> hello
[07:16] <Russian> hi
[07:16] <HypnotiX> can someone tell me why webGL doesnt work on my chrome, i have the latest nvidia driver
[07:17] <MrHotsauce> is webGL enabled in chrome?
[07:17] <poz_> alsamixer is not installing, what is is called?
[07:17] <Neozonz> no luck :(
[07:18] <MrHotsauce> chrome://flags/  open that in chrome a ton of settings are there one should be for webGL
[07:18] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm running linux inside a vm and i have mounted a shared folder by adding this line in fstab: media   /media/Shares   vboxsf   defaults  0   0.....in virtualbox share, i given the guest OS write permission but i could only create a folder but i can't write anything in that folder once created; is there any way to fix this?
[07:18] <Neozonz> changed pathing to absolute...
[07:18] <HypnotiX> checking now
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> poz_, alsamixer should be installed already run it in the terminal.
[07:19] <poz_> oooh
[07:19] <poz_> so it does
[07:19] <HypnotiX> MrHotsauce: i can see Disable webGL and the option is not enabled now
[07:19] <poz_> or is*
[07:20] <MrHotsauce> Override software rendering list  <--try using that as well
[07:20] <MrHotsauce> it may help i dont actually have a computer capable of running webgl smoothly but i can run it if i have that on
[07:20] <supercomp> How to change background for folders in ubuntu 12.04
[07:21] <HypnotiX> still not working
[07:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: hmm. perhaps I have it wrong somewhere :P
[07:21] <supercomp> ???
[07:22] <supercomp> (supercomp) How to change background for folders in ubuntu 12.04
[07:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: nope, it still doesn't work for e.
[07:22] <onca> I just discovered the Catalyst Control Center and installed amdcccle, do I have to restart X, what should I know about this?
[07:23] <poz_> or is*
[07:23] <poz_> opps
[07:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> onca: if you installed fglrx et al you need to reboot.
[07:24] <poz_> so my card is a nividia gtx 680, perhaps i do not have a well enough driver for it to send sound via hdmi?
[07:25] <supercomp> No one is replying to my query :-S
[07:25] <poz_> because when I am in alsamixer and press F6 to select sound card (HDA NVidia), it does not let me change anything
[07:27] <onca> ntzrmtthihu777: thank you.
[07:27] <TheB> hey
[07:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: how are you executing the above script? bash script, ./script?
[07:27] <MrHotsauce> HypnotiX: i fixed my issue i just used the recovery mode on the install cd to fix it
[07:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> onca: no problem. I have a pc with an ati card too ;)
[07:27] <aeon-ltd> supercomp: that will vary per file manager
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> i have it in my ~/bin directory
[07:28] <TheB> anyone here can suggest me a free books to learn python? :)
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> i just made a 2 line script called 'kls'  made it excutable. put it in /home/username/bin
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> TheB:  Python.org should have some links to them
[07:28] <supercomp> Gnome 3
[07:29] <TheB> Dr_Willis: thank you
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> supercomp:  perhaps no one knows.
[07:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: dang. when I run ll, it hangs with a > as if I had not terminated a quote or something of the like.
[07:29] <supercomp> Ok
[07:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: but when I run bash ll, in /usr/bin/, it works fine...
[07:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: would you care to test a modified version?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> ~/bin$ pastebinit kls
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6050386
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> supercomp: gnome 3 isn't a file manager
[07:32] <HypnotiX> how do i get my swap partition to work, i didnt create one when i first installed ubuntu
[07:32] <supercomp> Nautilus
[07:32] <republican_devil> swapfile
[07:32] <republican_devil> enable one
[07:32] <ok259> !uefi
[07:32] <republican_devil> or
[07:33] <republican_devil> if you have a small partition
[07:33] <poz_> you guys are busy, I will come back later.
[07:33] <republican_devil> format it as swap
[07:33] <republican_devil> and swapon it
[07:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: no dice, still hangs with the >
[07:33] <republican_devil> HypnotiX: swapfile works fine tho
[07:33] <hongker> like "swapon /dev/sda*"
[07:33] <AaronCobaltDefen> !swap
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  and what is the script name you are using and wehats its contents exactly?
[07:34] <HypnotiX> ok thanx
[07:37] <AaronCobaltDefen> Hello i am sorta..sorta new to the professional linux distros. Would red hat enterprise be the only one or are there others
[07:37] <auronandace> AaronCobaltDefen: better asked in ##linux
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> lwhat does 'professional' mean to you  AaronCobaltDefen ?
[07:38] <republican_devil> solaris was enterprise os
[07:38] <republican_devil> and sun went under
[07:38] <republican_devil> got bought by oracle
[07:38] <AaronCobaltDefen> getting a job as a linux admin or dba
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> AaronCobaltDefen:  learn the linux fundamentals.. and you cant go wrong
[07:38] <republican_devil> unbuntu and centos/redhat are common to corporate environs
[07:38] <republican_devil> if that makes them better who knows
[07:39] <AaronCobaltDefen> awesome info
[07:39] <republican_devil> tools are as good as hand that weilds them
[07:39]  * Dr_Willis gets out his large hammer.
[07:39] <republican_devil> riases shields
[07:39]  * Dr_Willis bops republican_devil  on his toe. ;P
[07:39] <AaronCobaltDefen> i am sorta a newbie still but gaining some tools of the trade
[07:40] <republican_devil> foot shield 100%
[07:40] <republican_devil> funny I have an ingown toenail on the right foot
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> your shield was raised.. :) not lowered..    Ouchies.
[07:40] <republican_devil> I am reading on ehow how you can put a little cotton ro somethign under the nail to make it grow out
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> AaronCobaltDefen:  pick a topic, find a book on linux on specific topics and just dive in. ;)
[07:40] <republican_devil> wonders if I have cotton in the bathroom.....
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> republican_devil:  use bellybutton lint. ;)
[07:41] <republican_devil> if you wana learn linux, install it
[07:41] <republican_devil> Im considering using a reciept from a pizza place
[07:41] <republican_devil> liek a roled up mini paper cigar
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> I collected a lot of the older oreially books from clearance bins at the bookstores.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Now i just keep Ebooks for my Kindle.
[07:41] <republican_devil> the bigges tthing u learn as linux engineer is howto learn new things cuz there are so many areas
[07:41] <republican_devil> and to keep trying
[07:42] <alnr> i just brought up a new install of 12.04, the syslogs are 4 hours ahead of EST time, even though date command shows EST, what might that be caused by
[07:42] <AaronCobaltDefen> ty Dr,  but i have 3 mediocre certs, nothing on the big list which should i go for next Linux+ the LPI's or the RedHat cert
[07:43] <Flannel> alnr: 'date' shows your local timezone, the system runs on UTC.
[07:43] <republican_devil> thing I am interested in: common lisp web apps, cl-prevalence, zfs, mogileFS, openAFS, 9p, mathopd vs naviserver vs cherokee, psotgresql, linux zones, and glusterFS, www.prevayler.org, nixos, sorcerer linux, archlinux, free/net/open bsd, pf, ha-proxy
[07:45] <ok259> auronandace, thanks! It works now! Awesome!
[07:45] <auronandace> !yay | ok259
[07:45] <AaronCobaltDefen> well i should say which one would be the easiest to do
[07:45] <ok259> :) Thanks!
[07:46] <alnr> Flannel: its unusual; syslog times usually show the local
[07:47] <Flannel> alnr: Logs are always done in UTC, because who knows what the timezone of the user is going to be when they read them.
[07:47] <alnr> Flannel: makes sense, but i'm looking at some other boxes, they are in local
[07:48] <alnr> wonder if thats a setting
[07:48] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm running linux inside a vm and i have mounted a shared folder by adding this line in fstab: media   /media/Shares   vboxsf   defaults  0   0.....in virtualbox share, i given the guest OS write permission but i could only create a folder but i can't write anything in that folder once created; how do i fix this?
[07:48] <Flannel> alnr: It is possible to configure hardware time to be local time instead of UTC, yes.  But the logs would be whatever the hardware clock says.
[07:50] <ok259> ttfn!
[07:52] <sarthor> HI,  net rpc rights grant "srvr1-zbr-database\ Admins" SeMachineAccountPrivilege SePrintOperatorPrivilege SeAddUsersPrivilege SeDiskOperatorPrivilege SeRemoteShutdownPrivilege
 Enter root's password:
 Failed to grant privileges for srvr1-zbr-database\ Admins (NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER) ... I am reading here, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/samba-dc.html
[08:01] <bl4ckdu5t> I need help in deleting a stubborn folder
[08:02] <bl4ckdu5t> I had tried "rm -R -i foldername" but it still fails
[08:02] <republican_devil> as root?
[08:02] <republican_devil> :)
[08:02] <bl4ckdu5t> yes
[08:03] <republican_devil> do df -h
[08:03] <republican_devil> what partition is the dir mounted on?
[08:03] <bl4ckdu5t> I get this promtp ==>rm: descend into directory `foldername'?
[08:03] <republican_devil> rm -rf
[08:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone up to helping me debug why this script doesn't work when invoked via $PATH but does work when I use said script/
[08:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> ?
[08:03] <republican_devil> echo $PATH
[08:04] <bl4ckdu5t> It's on my external drive
[08:04] <republican_devil> ah
[08:04] <republican_devil> ok
[08:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> *use said script like "bash script"?
[08:04] <republican_devil> well your user might not have perms to delete the folder
[08:04] <republican_devil> hows it mounted?
[08:04] <republican_devil> wooledge bash guide is excellent
[08:05] <republican_devil> and knowing bash makes using unix so much more fun
[08:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: standard $PATH + addition in .bashrc PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.bin/
[08:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: the script works, and very well at that, just not when I place it in $PATH and call it by name :P
[08:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: and I know, I love bash :P
[08:05] <republican_devil> ok did you do . ./.bashrc to activate the setting in .bashrc or login again?
[08:05] <republican_devil> aka sourcing the file
[08:05] <republican_devil> ?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: Start by pastebinning the script and explaining what happens when it "doesn't work".
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: yup, lol. that's why it puzzles me, lol.
[08:06] <bl4ckdu5t> It's on sdb1
[08:06] <republican_devil> what does mount command tell you its mounted as?
[08:06] <bl4ckdu5t> rebulican_devil: I just tried the -rf and it failed too
[08:06] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: Also, "ls -l /path?to/script"
[08:07] <republican_devil> can you touch someexamplefile on the external drive?
[08:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: did, a bit back, but lost connection. will repaste; it "doesn't work" by hanging with > like I did not terminate a quote or finish a loop.
[08:07] <hongker> "df -l"
[08:07] <republican_devil> if its mounted read only
[08:07] <republican_devil> heh
[08:07] <republican_devil> run "mount"
[08:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> /bin/sh: 1: pastebin: not found
[08:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> dammit, lemme install that.
[08:07] <republican_devil> dont use sh
[08:07] <republican_devil> use bash
[08:07] <republican_devil> "which bash"
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://paste.debian.net/33115/
[08:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: I executed this command in irssi; it uses sh by default. The script is writtin in bash; #!/bin/bash yadayada
[08:09] <republican_devil> what is the goal of that script?
[08:09] <republican_devil> lets rewrite it
[08:10] <republican_devil> read the wooledge bash guide
[08:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: displays numeric chmod codes along with symbolic rwx codes.
[08:10] <bl4ckdu5t> rebulican_devil: It's mounted as read-write
[08:10] <republican_devil> ok what would a successful out put look like?
[08:10] <bl4ckdu5t> with the ffg details nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[08:10] <republican_devil> did u mount it or did like kde mount it?
[08:10] <republican_devil> for u?
[08:10] <republican_devil> try writing a file there
[08:10] <republican_devil> if u cant then ur buggered
[08:11] <republican_devil> and you need x to delete
[08:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: I would not say I'm a bash expert but I'm passable. its just ls -alF piped into awk. it looks like ### -rxw-rxw-rxw owner group file
[08:11] <republican_devil> I think
[08:11] <nurow> anyone know a method to stop amazon prime videos from sleeping while I'm watching them on Ubuntu?
[08:11] <republican_devil> the fact your using awk
[08:11] <bl4ckdu5t> yea KDE mounted it for me
[08:11] <republican_devil> says it all
[08:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> nurow: caffene, I thinks.
[08:11] <republican_devil> what does a succesful out put look like?
[08:11] <nurow> caffene? wqhat's that?
[08:12] <republican_devil> ok
[08:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: Already told you, and it works if i use bash ll (the script name), just not when I use ll alone.
[08:12] <republican_devil> try moving a file on there
[08:12] <republican_devil> in your gui or on command line
[08:12] <republican_devil> see if u have perms
[08:12] <republican_devil> probly dont
[08:12] <vinceableworld> lol@devil you're cool.
[08:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> nurow: some app I've read of but never used. it keeps ubuntu from sleeping while doing things. I don't know the particulars at it.
[08:12] <republican_devil> already told me what a successful out put looks like?
[08:12] <republican_devil> where?
[08:12] <bl4ckdu5t> I just created a text file with cat and I deleted it successfully
[08:13] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: You're basically doing eval, which is frowned apon for many reasons. I would highly recommend rewriting the script without using sh -c.
[08:13] <nurow> i c
[08:13] <republican_devil> that script is a train wreak
[08:13] <republican_devil> whats the goal
[08:13] <nurow> okay, i'll look into it. thanks <ntzrmtthihu777>
[08:13] <republican_devil> and ill tell uhowto get there
[08:13] <vinceableworld> Would someone mind msging me in private to walk me thru installing a package?
[08:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: I've told you the goal, thrice now.
[08:13] <histo> vinceableworld: apt-get install package
[08:13] <vinceableworld> I don't do well in groups...
[08:13] <republican_devil> I dont see any example output
[08:13] <republican_devil> like what the script would spit out
[08:14] <republican_devil> like for example
[08:14] <vinceableworld> newbie here... so it's in my download folder... d/l with firefox...
[08:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> vinceableworld: what are you trying to install?
[08:14] <histo> vinceableworld: what are you trying to install? Why not use the software center to install it?
[08:14] <republican_devil> "I love green trees"|sed -i s/trees/bugs/  would probly give "I love green bugs"
[08:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: ah, ignore the sh -c bit. recent addtion.
[08:14] <republican_devil> thats example of out oput
[08:14] <vinceableworld> okay opened a terminal
[08:14] <vinceableworld> a chat program
[08:14] <vinceableworld> encrypted chat - very cool
[08:15] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: Please pastebin a version of the script as it should be then.
[08:15] <onca> why did update-grub make my system not boot up?
[08:15] <vinceableworld> Just got a linux version - and they are going to KILL skype DEAD DEAD DEAD. Rejoice brothers and sisters.
[08:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: read up several lines; I gave explicit output. expected output is "numeric chmod code, symbolic chmod codes, owner, group, filename.
[08:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://paste.debian.net/33116/
[08:15] <republican_devil> what?
[08:15] <republican_devil> thsoe exact words?
[08:15] <vinceableworld> Rejoice!
[08:15] <histo> vinceableworld: what?
[08:16] <republican_devil> or soemthing like 775 user1 goup1 file
[08:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: no, but since you seem to have trouble with the example I gave I reworded it.
[08:16] <vinceableworld> anyway... so I got terminal open
[08:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: yeah, like that.
[08:16] <republican_devil> dude i bene asking you 10x for the actual output
[08:16] <republican_devil> not words fo what it might output
[08:16] <histo> vinceableworld: What are you trying to install?
[08:16] <republican_devil> example data
[08:16] <republican_devil> ya garboon
[08:16] <vinceableworld> pretend I have no idea what I'm doing :)
[08:16] <republican_devil> are u retarded?
[08:16] <vinceableworld> a chat program.
[08:16] <Jordan_U> onca: What happens when you try to boot?
[08:16] <vinceableworld> that is what I am trying to install
[08:17] <cfhowlett> republican_devil, chillax it's only IRC ...
[08:17] <histo> vinceableworld: what chat program?
[08:17] <republican_devil> in bash u usually collect the thigns you wnat by launchging a comand to collect it ina subshell like $(some command crap)
[08:17] <republican_devil> then you echo back the vars once set
[08:17] <histo> !who | vinceableworld
[08:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://paste.debian.net/33117/
[08:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> vinceableworld: name of chat program?
[08:18] <vinceableworld> unsene
[08:18] <republican_devil> ok so how is this different from ls -lh???
[08:18] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm running linux inside a vm and i have mounted a shared folder by adding this line in fstab: media   /media/Shares   vboxsf   defaults  0   0.....in virtualbox share, i given the guest OS write permission but i could only create a folder but i can't write anything in the parent folder once created; how do i fix this?
[08:18] <republican_devil> thats it
[08:18] <republican_devil> I am making myself overlord
[08:18] <republican_devil> and worlds guna not be run by dumb anymore
[08:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: it includes numeric chmod codes, like 755 for rwx-rw--rw
[08:19] <republican_devil> ntzrmtthihu777: ok let me ask even more sepcifically: what is your goal, in wirting this script?
[08:19] <republican_devil> and you think ls perchance has no switch to show that numerically?
[08:19] <republican_devil> perhaps?
[08:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> vinceableworld: and apt-get install unsene doesn't do the trick?
[08:20] <republican_devil> and why do you care anyhow?
[08:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: not one I'm aware of, but I'd love to have one :P
[08:20] <republican_devil> are you checking perms for some reason?
[08:20] <republican_devil> whats the goal?
[08:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: generic use. what is your problem with me wanting to customize the output of my command?
[08:21] <vinceableworld> http://103.28.36.130/files/unsene_ubuntu/install_ubuntu_x64_20130823.tar.gz
[08:22] <onca> Ahh, I followed a tutorial on how to include windows in grub2 and now my system won't boot.
[08:22] <republican_devil> why
[08:22] <republican_devil> whats the goal?
[08:22] <onca> all I did was run sudo update-grub
[08:22] <onca> and it finished cleanly/
[08:22] <cfhowlett> !grub|onca,
[08:22] <onca> windows boots nicely.
[08:22] <onca> literally in seconds
[08:23] <republican_devil> mr adnerson
[08:23] <republican_devil> purpose
[08:23] <republican_devil> is what u stole from me
[08:23] <ankan_> what version @onca?
[08:23] <republican_devil> purpose
[08:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> onca: boot-repair could be of use to you.
[08:24] <onca> thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[08:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: dude, you're far to annoying. My purpose was stated, in that I want it for my own reasons. Why doesn't matter. now, unless you have anything actually useful to say in the next few message you are more than welcome to join my ignored list.
[08:26] <republican_devil> ntzrmtthihu777: you need to learn to communicate
[08:26] <xmetal> hmm i never had to add windows to grub2 .. .it always "auto detected" here
[08:27] <republican_devil> I asked you 100 times for same thing
[08:27] <republican_devil> after first 5 dont you ge tthat your not beign clear?
[08:27] <republican_devil> you never mentioned you had pasteninned the info until later
[08:27] <republican_devil> after an inital pastebin
[08:27] <republican_devil> of the script
[08:27] <republican_devil> and I still now dont know your purpose
[08:27] <republican_devil> and it is you my good man who are annoying
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: goodbye, I've answered your questions each time asked, and yet you refuse to acknowledge them. so, good day/night, and I'll be glad to never hear from you again.
[08:29] <bazhang> republican_devil, lose the attitude, and stop the excessive editorial commentary
[08:29] <xmetal> !gfxboot
[08:29] <histo> republican_devil: what are you trying to do?
[08:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[08:34] <xmetal> brb
[08:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> now, would anyone without the personality of a rabid chihuahua care to assist me? the script works, but only when invoked like 'bash script' in the directory of the script; placing it in /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/db/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin:/root/.bin/ and running it by name alone hangs at the prompt with a >, as if I had not com
[08:35] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, one word: paste
[08:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah crap, it expanded $PATh.
[08:35] <TheUser> hi
[08:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: did, see end of previous message.
[08:35] <cfhowlett> TheUser, greetings
[08:36] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, noted.
[08:36] <TheUser> Is there  a command line thing i can to to change the desktop background?
[08:36] <vinceableworld> I'm back!
[08:36] <histo> !manual > vinceableworld
[08:37] <cfhowlett> TheUser, you mean the wallpaper displayed?
[08:37] <TheUser> yes
[08:37] <republican_devil> I wanted to help but he refuses to listen and then .. well who cares
[08:37] <cfhowlett> TheUser, probably ... but why not use the GUI menu?
[08:38] <TheUser> cause i want to do some command line script stuffs?
[08:38] <histo> republican_devil: What do you want help with?
[08:38] <republican_devil> nothing at the moment , I was helping others
[08:38] <histo> TheUser: which Desktop environment are you using?
[08:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: if you call badgering someone as to why he wants a particular function added via scripting helping, then yes, he was helping me.
[08:39] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, thats enough commentary. move on please
[08:39] <TheUser> i can install any that provide the commandline tool i need but i wont be using any in the X that the script is running in
[08:40] <histo> TheUser: if it's unity, gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///path/to/picture.jpg
[08:40] <republican_devil> I asked what was the goal of the script.
[08:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> bazhang: granted.
[08:40] <histo> TheUser: well if you aren't using unity may I suggest using fbi or nitrogen to set the background in X
[08:40] <bazhang> republican_devil, and its over, lets move past that. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[08:41] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: sometimes people have an X Y problem that's why you may get asked questions.
[08:41] <wiehan> Does anyone know how to set up a shortcut in sublime-text 2 to open the file you are working on in chrome?
[08:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: X Y? I don't follow you, lol.
[08:42] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
[08:42] <republican_devil> oh i pointed him to wooledge bash guide hour ago
[08:43] <wiehan> Does anyone use sublime-text 2?
[08:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: ah, gotcha.
[08:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> republican_devil: I'm aware of and have read a fair portion of said wiki. I'm no bash expert but I know and like it well enough. Now, if you care to give me Y instead of my X, having already stated my goal, I'd love to hear it, but your "nerdier than thou" atitude is not need nor helpful.
[08:44] <histo> !patience | wiehan
[08:48] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm running linux inside a vm and i have mounted a shared folder by adding this line in fstab: media   /media/Shares   vboxsf   defaults  0   0.....in virtualbox share, i given the guest OS write permission but i could only create a folder but i can't write anything in the parent folder once created; how do i fix this?
[08:49] <histo> paranoidphreak: /j #vbox
[08:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> paranoidphreak: I don't know the particular answer you're looking for, but could you perhaps use samba? make a share on the vm, and mount it on the host/
[08:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> paranoidphreak: also, you can set read/write permissions in the fstab for cifs, but I don't recal the particulars.
[08:50] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: have you tried in #bash?
[08:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: they don't like my use of ls, even though I'm trying to extend the usefullness of ls in particular.
[08:51] <paranoidphreak> Thanks for the suggestions
[08:51] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: ls has limitations on it's output
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: I'm aware of that. I just dont understand why placing said script in $PATH and calling it by name is giving me the wierd hangup, but running it with "bash script" in the right dir does.
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> s/does/works/
[08:53] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: put do you have /bin/bash at the begining of your script?
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: yep, I have my hashbang setup right.
[08:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> I've tried it with /bin/bash and /usr/bin/env bash
[08:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> #! first, obviously.
[08:54] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: what's the pastebin of your script?
[08:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> here it is again: http://paste.debian.net/33133/
[08:56] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: I don't understand the point of this script
[08:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: it places numeric chmod codes in the leftmost column of the output of ls -laF; for example http://paste.debian.net/33117/
[08:58] <leonixyz> Hello there! I'm developing a school project that requires to operate on a chrooted 11.04 environment. All works fine (I chroot into) but can't run 'apt-get update' because all entries in /etc/apt/sources.list are ignored or give me an 404 error. Am I missing something that my only chroot doesn't do, for example updating the sources.list file?
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> dangit, be right back, my irc client is being stupid.
[08:58] <Ben66> leonixyz: 11.04 is no longer supported
[08:59] <leonixyz> Ben66: since when?
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: back.
[08:59] <Ben66> leonixyz: since october
[08:59] <leonixyz> Ben66: so there are no repositories?
[08:59] <Ben66> nope, no security updates, no nothing
[09:00] <leonixyz> Ben66: ok ty
[09:00] <ikonia> leonixyz: the repos have been moved to the archive, that's why it's 404'ing
[09:01] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | leonixyz
[09:01] <ikonia> leonixyz: developing a project around 11.04 - or any other non-LTS release, is suicide
[09:01] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/21722-command-shows-me-permissions-file-octal.html  No idea why your script is behaving that way but I found this hopefully it helps if it's the way awk is running.
[09:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: ah, there you are. did you see my previous message? if not, I said thank you for letting me know backtrack is now kali linux. I booted the iso via grub the other day, and rather enjoyed it. Ended up installing it to a new partition on this machine.
[09:02] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: keep in mind i've very tired though my head hurts to much to go through awk's garbage
[09:02] <histo> !eol | leonixyz
[09:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: did you test it, may I ask? and yeah, awk is a pita XD
[09:02] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: I can't test on this machine.
[09:02] <leonixyz> ubottu: ikonia: ty
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: kk, thanks.
[09:04] <leonixyz> I'm writing my teacher,... actually I'm developing a project for a previous academic year
[09:05] <t4nk936> Can't open steam Ubuntu 13.04 after installation
[09:05] <t4nk936> Anyone knows what's going on?
[09:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: ah, thankyah, this has given me the hook I need.
[09:06] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: launch in a terminal then post the output to pastebin or here if it's one line
[09:06] <t4nk936> How do i launch steam from terminal?
[09:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> t4nk936: steam adds its own repos, I think; you'll likely have to do sed -i 's:precise:raring:g' on the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ to fix.
[09:07] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: steam
[09:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> t4nk936: exactly like any other program. open a terminal and enter steam
[09:07] <t4nk936> okay. here's what it says
[09:08] <cfhowlett> leonixyz, as you know, 11.04 is end of life ...
[09:08] <t4nk936> it won't copy paste it
[09:09] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: find a way, screenshot if you have to and use imagebin
[09:09] <joufflu> i hate how its stil so difficult ot stretch a window in linux
[09:09] <t4nk936> well i can tell you it says : Success as the last word
[09:09] <aeon-ltd> joufflu: grab corner, move it?
[09:10] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: no offense but that's not really helpful
[09:10] <joufflu> I see the cursor change but as soon as I drag it, the drops the window! Ubuntu is just trolling me!
[09:10] <t4nk936> susr/bin/steam: line 191: /home/fon/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: Success
[09:10] <joufflu> /r/the/it
[09:11] <aeon-ltd> joufflu: changes WMs?
[09:11] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: is that the only line?
[09:11] <t4nk936> Yes
[09:12] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: well at least we know whatever that script is it's launching fine
[09:12] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: still no window?
[09:12] <t4nk936> Nope. Nothing happens
[09:13] <t4nk936> I tried uninstalling, chaning grapshics drivers
[09:13] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: is a process running in activity monitor or top/htop ?
[09:13] <t4nk936> No
[09:14] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: so after you launch in terminal it prints that line then crashes without a message explaining why?
[09:14] <haux> I have two directories with roughly 158 subdirectories and 1400+ files within those that are supposed to be mirrors of each other, but one is off by two files. What program/command can I use to figure out where the difference is without manually checking it?
[09:14] <aeon-ltd> diff?
[09:14] <t4nk936> It doesn't launch or crash anything. Like I said, nothing happens
[09:14] <t4nk936> No sign of life coming from steam
[09:14] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: if it doesn't crash then a process should be present
[09:14] <aeon-ltd> haux: diff?
[09:15] <t4nk936> Maybe, but not in my case
[09:15] <haux> I'll try that, if I can figure out 'configuration' of the command (options)
[09:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> haux: fdupes can do the opposite of it, find all the correct duplicates.
[09:16] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: after you type and launch steam in terminal, can you type commands again?
[09:16] <t4nk936> No
[09:16] <cfhowlett> aeon-ltd, I'd bet his ps -x shows steam running
[09:16] <magnus___> Hey, friends. Ubuntu newbie here. Installed Ubuntu 12.04 desktop version on a previous Windows machine. It's been working fine for a couple of weeks, but now it doesn
[09:16] <magnus___> t
[09:16] <magnus___> boot.
[09:17] <cfhowlett> magnus___, no boot at all?
[09:17] <magnus___> no boot at all
[09:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> magnus___: still have your livecd/usb?
[09:17] <magnus___> yes, still have my live  CD but seems the computer won
[09:17] <magnus___> tt even boot from that
[09:17] <joufflu> aeon-ltd: i installed xubuntu thinking it be good to xfce
[09:17] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: can you change focus to steam? like alt-tab
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> magnus___: sounds pretty serious. mayhaps the machine itself is busted? how old is it/
[09:18] <t4nk936> Nothing :/ No sign of life from Steam.
[09:18] <t4nk936> I seriously wonder if I should re install Ubuntu
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> t4nk936: purge and reinstall?
[09:19] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: that wouldn't be worth it, that'd be 30 mins of work plus restoring backups
[09:19] <t4nk936> Well I tried uninstalling it from synaptic package manager
[09:19] <t4nk936> isn't that like purging?
[09:19] <tozen> magnus___: what do you see starting your machine?
[09:19] <aeon-ltd> t4nk936: not unless you chose the option to purge or completely remove
[09:19] <cfhowlett> t4nk936, purge steam.  reinstall.  see what happens.
[09:20] <t4nk936> alright will try that :) tnx everyone for your time
[09:20] <cfhowlett> t4nk936, in fact, running the commands from terminal might just give you more infomattion.
[09:20] <cfhowlett> t4nk936, sudo apt-get purge steam
[09:20] <magnus___> tozen: nothing at all, screen doesn't seem to react at all to my booting of the computer
[09:20] <t4nk936> tnx for command i was looking to google it
[09:21] <cfhowlett> magnus___, and this is with the ubuntu CD right?
[09:21] <researcher> using what comman dline can I know what system version I have?
[09:21] <magnus___> cfhowlett: no, this was post-installation, without the ubuntu CD
[09:21] <t4nk936> Package 'steam:i386' is not installed, so not removed
[09:21] <researcher> !system
[09:21] <aeon-ltd> researcher: uname -a
[09:21] <t4nk936> that's what it said after i purged it
[09:21] <researcher> !version
[09:21] <aeon-ltd> researcher: lsb_release -a
[09:21] <t4nk936> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.
[09:21] <t4nk936> the this
[09:22] <t4nk936> then this*
[09:22] <tozen> magnus___: what videocard do you use?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> magnus___, hazarding a guess; you've got auto update running.  the latest point release was 12.4.2 to 12.4.3  and (guessing) your video settings didn't migrate to the new version.
[09:24] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|magnus___,
[09:24] <Antar> Hi
[09:24] <cfhowlett> Antar, greetings
[09:25] <t4nk936> Still no luck with steam problem :(
[09:25] <Antar> :) can you help me to display php errors on my lamp
[09:25] <magnus___> cfhowlett/ ubottu: I've read up on the nomodeset parameter and suspect this could fix it - but how can I enter grub and change the parameter if nothing at all shows up on screen?
[09:26] <Antar> cfhowlett
[09:26] <cfhowlett> t4nk936, housecleaning:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove      THEN install steam from the command line
[09:26] <cfhowlett> Antar, sorry, that's quite a ways outside my range of knowledge.  stay in channel, someone will likely know.  or try #ubuntu-server
[09:26] <t4nk936> ok will try that tnx
[09:27] <Antar> ook
[09:27] <Antar> guys anyway to display php errors on Lamp server
[09:28] <bazhang> Antar, #ubuntu-server
 I tried your line and then tried installing and still won't start
[09:29] <junktext> t4nk936, how are you installing Steam?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> t4nk936, and starting from command line gives no error message???
[09:29] <junktext> Are you using the Software Center?
[09:29] <t4nk936> <junktext no, i'm installing it from terminal
[09:29] <t4nk936> sudo apt-get install steam
 no error message, nothing.
[09:31] <junktext> t4nk936, have you tried using Software Center?
[09:31] <t4nk936> junktext, yes i have tried that. same results = nothing happening
[09:32] <cfhowlett> t4nk936, abnormal behavior.  you should have some kind of message returned.  run ps -x and look for steam entries
[09:33] <t4nk936> cfhowlett>, ok, will try that
[09:33] <junktext> do: ps -x | grep steam
[09:34] <t4nk936> junktext, 4627 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto steam
[09:34] <t4nk936> this came up
[09:35] <junktext> Ah, that's all?
[09:35] <t4nk936> It might have to do that I had black screen problems yesterday and I had to uninstall my graphics drivers
[09:35] <t4nk936> yeah, that's all :/
[09:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: yep, you got me what I needed. I ended up finding a perl script because you gave me the right name to google for, octal notation, instead of "numeric chmod codes"
[09:36] <junktext> the "grep --color" thing is just saying that it noticed you are grep'ing for steam
[09:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> junktext: yep. that puzzled the crap outta me for a while XD
[09:37] <t4nk936> well, word steam is in red
[09:37] <t4nk936> idk what greping means
[09:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> t4nk936: yep, because you greped it lol.
[09:37] <junktext> Yeah, you can ignore the search results then, t4nk936.
[09:37] <cfhowlett> t4nk936, and you've just reinstalled steam.  so why the heck it won't run is the mystery.  grep is  a string search command.  anyway.  reboot.  try to run steam again.
[09:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> t4nk936: grep means search for a string. ps -x shows running processes, and grep steam looks for one named steam or containing the letters.
[09:37] <junktext> grep is a method to search against text.
[09:38] <t4nk936> Ok, ty guys for your patience and time. Will try rebooting pc
[09:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> its a very useful tool, lol.
[09:38] <t4nk936> from then if it doesn't work I'll just reinstall ubuntu
[09:38] <t4nk936> what can i do -.-
[09:38] <junktext> t4nk936, or post on Steam's github.
[09:39] <junktext> Don't post on Valve's general forums, they barely read those.
[09:40] <junktext> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux
[09:41] <junktext> What video drivers are you using, t4nk936?
[09:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> man this perl script is exactly what I needed :D
[09:47] <researcher> now from command line if I have  32BIT OR 64 BIT INSTALLATION OF uBUNTU ?
[09:48] <researcher> hOW TO Know from command line if I have  32BIT OR 64 BIT INSTALLATION OF uBUNTU ?
[09:48] <geirha> file /bin/bash
[09:49] <bekks> researcher: Fix you caps lock and type: uname -a
[09:49] <ice9> How to install package source using apt-get?
[09:49] <geirha> apt-get source pkgname
[09:49] <Synth_> Yo guys I got a question
[09:49] <geirha> ice9: do not run it with sudo
[09:49] <ice9> geirha, why?
[09:50] <geirha> ice9: Because there's no point in running it as root
[09:50] <Synth_> I got an external hard drive that I use with my Mac, its on a Journaled FS i think, and i need to paste some files from my ubuntu system to it, how can i do that?
[09:50] <cfhowlett> !ask|Synth_,
[09:51] <Synth_> my old desktop is running ubuntu 9.10 i think
[09:51] <bekks> Synth_: 9.10 isnt supported since a long time now.
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> Synth_  consider upgrading to a supported version
[09:51] <Synth_> there anyway I can do that without reformatting my external hard drive??
[09:51] <Synth_> yea yea, I am gonna upgrade to 12 now but I need to backup some of it files thats my problem
[09:52] <researcher> geirha: im on ubuntu 13.04 raring ringtail.how do  know if I have a32 or 64 bit installation?
[09:52] <Synth_> the only external drive I have is the one I use for my mac that has a mac format
[09:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> researcher: uname -a, or file /bin/bash
[09:52] <InDooMe> hello
[09:52] <cfhowlett> InDooMe, greetings
[09:52] <InDooMe> any support here to helo ?
[09:52] <InDooMe> help *
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> InDooMe  yes, this is the help channel
[09:53] <InDooMe> nic
[09:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | InDooMe
[09:53] <InDooMe> nice *
[09:53] <InDooMe> I've been trying to install Ubuntu to be my main OS by unfortunately I keep getting errors, how do I fix this ?
[09:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | InDooMe
[09:54] <clong> Hi All. I've just installed open stack following matthew scott's you tube vid and I'm now wondering where i can get the default logins for the openstack dashboard, horizon etc from?
[09:54] <InDooMe> I downloaded the latest 64bit version, I'm using an HP Pavilion Dv7 laptop with Intel i5 installed
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> InDooMe  what errors?
[09:56] <InDooMe> how can I take a snapshot and send it over here ?
[09:56] <InDooMe> using Xchat
[09:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> InDooMe: post it to imagebin
[09:56] <InDooMe> cool
[09:56] <InDooMe> how do I snapshoot ?
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> InDooMe  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[09:57] <haux> Alright, I'm going to ask again just in case someone else that joined might have an answer. I have two directories that are supposed to be mirrors of each other. One is off by 2 files. I'd like to figure out which files are missing. 'diff' doesn't appear to be ideal here as diff -r wants to compare the file to file, which will take a long time and I don't want to do. I just want to know which files are missing. Ideas?
[09:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> InDooMe: but, if its primarily text, pastebin would be better
[09:57] <InDooMe> ok I'll check
[09:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> haux: ho big are the trees?
[09:57] <haux> ~140 subdirectories with ~1400 files
[09:58] <haux> 50GB total in size
[09:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> haux: actually, one seccond. I think I can work out a tiny scriptlet to do that for you. do you have fdupes installed? if not, install it, its hugely useful. Oh crap, that's too much for fdupes to be useful in this situation...
[09:59] <haux> Someone recommended fdupes earlier, but I was giving diff a shot first
[09:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> haux: with that amount of files you basically have no choice but for it to take a while.
[10:00] <haux> The issue with diff is that it's actually comparing the contents of the files.
[10:00] <haux> I don't need that, at all
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> haux: yes, I understand that, but I
[10:00] <haux> There's nothing that will only compare the file structure?
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> 'm not aware of something that can recursively check filenames :/
[10:00] <haux> hm
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> haux: not to say it doesn't exist, I just don't know it :P
[10:00] <haux> yeah
[10:02] <haux> I wonder if it can be done with rsync
[10:02] <bekks> haux: rsync has a dry run option.
[10:03] <Synth_> really? nothing? ok
[10:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Synth_: what?
[10:03] <haux> There's also something called rdiff
[10:03] <InDooMe> I'm writing on Pastbin.com
[10:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Synth_: oh, the mac hdd. sorry, know nothing about mac hardware except its hugely overpriced.
[10:03] <Synth_> how to get write access to an HFS+ (Apple Format) Format hard drive
[10:04] <Synth_> xD
[10:04] <haux>  -n, --dry-run               perform a trial run with no changes made
[10:04] <Synth_> It is
[10:04] <Synth_> I worked for Apple. lol
[10:04] <InDooMe> http://pastebin.com/zCUxaFg3
[10:06] <InDooMe> http://pastebin.com/zCUxaFg3
[10:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> Synth_: ouch XD. ever see the "epic rap battles of history -- steve jobs vs bill gates"? check it out XD
[10:07] <ntzrmtthihu777>  /end ot
[10:07] <InDooMe> hello?
[10:07] <meet> amongst lxde and enlightenment which is lighter? or less cpu/ram/energy consuming?
[10:10] <InDooMe> can anyone help me ?
[10:10] <bekks> InDooMe: Your error clearly states what to do. Reboot before continue.
[10:10] <InDooMe> and then proceed again with the installation ?
[10:10] <Guest5896> n
[10:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, I ran into that error attempting to install from an iso booted with grub :P
[10:11] <Synth_> ntzrmtthihu777 lol no but i will check that out
[10:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> well folks, its very late here, so late as to be early, so I'm going to sleep. Hope everyone resolves their issues tonite :D
[10:18] <haux> Ah
[10:18] <haux> figured it out
[10:18] <haux> Thanks google
[10:18] <haux> haux@splozi:~$ rsync -nav --delete --ignore-existing /media/triton/aosrecs/ /media/newvolume/aosrecs
[10:19] <haux> 2013_03_20/
[10:19] <haux> 2013_03_20/rhuanr 2013-03-20 21-56-19-34.wmv
[10:19] <haux> 2013_03_20/zabujca 2013-03-20 13-05-01-81.wmv
[10:19] <haux> 2013_03_21/
[10:19] <FloodBot1> haux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <Layke> How come sudo killall java
[10:21] <Layke> Is still leaving some java processes running?
[10:22] <Layke> I've tried killing my pkill -9 pid as well
[10:24] <Layke> kill -9 worked... but pkill -9 <pid> didn't. I thought kill/pkill did the same thing if you know the pid?
[10:24] <bl4ckdu5t> How can I format a drive from the terminal?
[10:25] <bekks> bl4ckdu5t: mkfs
[10:25] <rebar> are there any problems with running cinnmaon on ubuntu?
[10:25] <bl4ckdu5t> ok tx
[10:32] <iceroot_> Layke: man pkill "pkill is using a pattern as default and not the pid"
[10:32] <iceroot_> Layke: and you should really try do NOT use -9
[10:37] <Layke> iceroot_, The processes wouldn't die.
[10:37] <Layke> I didn't know what option I had left?
[10:37] <iceroot_> Layke: try to avoid using such buggy software when it wont react on a normal kill :)
[10:38] <Layke> So my two options would be 1) Don't use Solr. 2) Use kill and go on my way.
[10:39] <iceroot_> Layke: sure you can use kill (-15)
[10:39] <usr13> Layke: Use kill to kill a pid [number], pkill to kill a process name.
[10:39] <iceroot_> Layke: kill -9 is always bad, normally something with the process is really bugged then
[10:39] <Layke> Okay thanks. I'll try -15 next if it happens again./
[10:40] <iceroot_> Layke: kill pid  is using kill -15 by default
[10:42] <iceroot_> Layke: kill -15 means "send the process a signal that the process should end and wait until the process is cleanly ended, deletedt pid files, closing sockets and so on". kill -9 directly ends the process and the process does not have a chance to clean up
[10:42] <iceroot_> Layke: and when a process is not reacting on -15 normally the program is buggy
[10:47] <MACscr> is there a live edition of ubuntu server? I cant seem to create a usb boot drive with the server edition as the server iso appears to only be an installer. Am i missing something?
[10:47] <bekks> No.
[10:47] <bekks> MACscr: The server editiion is an installer only.
[10:48] <iceroot_> MACscr: use the desktop version and put in the grub line "text"
[10:48] <iceroot_> !nox | MACscr
[10:49] <MACscr> bekks: not sure how that would help as that would still install a bunch of junk, right?
[10:49] <MACscr> er, have
[10:50] <MACscr> hmm. Im just trying to find the easiest way to get a server edition of ubuntu to run from ramdisk, but still have some persistent storage on a usb drive for software installs and configs, etc
[10:51] <i0x3p710n> hello..
[10:52] <i0x3p710n> i am using tor with polipo and my root drive seems to grow whenever i download a video or anything its seems that /var/cache/polipo is participating .. how can i run polipo with cache disabled?
[10:53] <baswazz_> I installed ubuntu server 12.04 lts and edited the /etc/hdparm.conf and removed the # from spindown_time = 120 it did work fine. I installed zfsonlinux tvheadend oscam-svn sabnzbd. But after reboot spindown does not work after 120 (10min) when i use the cmd 'sudo hdparm -y /dev/sdb(c)(d)(e)(f)(g) they do spindown
[10:54] <bekks> baswazz_: Not issueing a command does not mean there is no hdd access.
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> baswazz_  try asking in #ubuntu-server
[10:56] <baswazz_> MonkeyDust: ok thx
[10:57] <i0x3p710n> anyone?
[10:59] <n64829> hi
[10:59] <n64829> can you help me
[11:00] <Akishona> hi ! i can't install xtables geoip on ubuntu. is it someone here that can help me with this problem ?
[11:01] <n64829> akishona can I help you
[11:03] <DaveEvad> When i try to activate the "Broadcom-STA-WLAN" Driver I get "Error. look at /var/log/jockey.log. This shows me "BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted" and "/sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver". How can I solve this ?
[11:06] <Guest89631> Hi All, can somewone explain me the differences between 12.04 and 13.04 versions? Which one have I to install in my laptop in order to create a little workstation?
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest89631  read any review, here's one http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-review-7000014497/
[11:09] <iceroot_> Guest89631: 12.04 is a lts release (Long term support) it will get 5 years security updates but has older software versions (which will not be updated, just sec updates), 13.04 is the newest release with 9 month of support, it has newer software versions but it not that stable like 12.04 because the software from 13.04 is not tested that long as on 12.04
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> misread, I tought you meant 12.10 vs 13.04
[11:11] <iceroot_> Guest89631: so its up to you if you want a more stable system (12.04) or a newer release. i personally prefer 12.04 instead of 13.04
[11:11] <iceroot_> Guest89631: but both systems are fine, so its up to you
[11:12] <Guest89631> are both ok to create a java/python3 developer workstation?
[11:12] <iceroot_> Guest89631: yes
[11:12] <eyfour> Guest89631: yes
[11:13] <eyfour> Guest 89631:
[11:14] <eyfour> Guest89631: if having the newest stuff is important to you, choose the latest release ( 13.04). If stability is more important, I reccommend choosing the current LTS (12.04).
[11:14] <eyfour> *recommend
[11:15] <Guest89631> eyfour: i don't know, i need something right for a quite old lapton Acer Aspire 5920G that i will use to write programs in Eclipse IDE and Python
[11:15] <Guest89631> *laptop
[11:15] <iceroot_> is mutliarch enabled by default in 12.04? i was facing big problems in debian with skype on amd64 because multiarch is not enabled by default. is it the same for 12.04?
[11:16] <Guest89631> i'd like even to leanr something about ubuntu apps
[11:16] <oonfreakz> Ubuntu phone
[11:17] <Guest89631> last question: will be version 14 LTS again?
[11:17] <Joupi> iceroot : not sure about answering, but I have skype on xubutu 12.04 and never went into this trouble, just downloaded and installed ... runs fine.
[11:17] <iceroot_> Guest89631: 14.04 will be LTS again
[11:17] <popey> Guest89631: current plan is 14.04 is LTS
[11:17] <iceroot_> Joupi: on amd64?
[11:18] <Joupi> iceroot : I forgot to say I am on xubuntu 64
[11:18] <Joupi> yes ... ;-)
[11:18] <eyfour> Guest89631: Either release should be fine for that purpose as well. Since your laptop is old, you might need to use a different desktop environment than Unity (called "ubuntu" in the log-in screen) to get it to run smoothly.
[11:18] <iceroot_> Joupi: and the skype package you installed is i386?
[11:19] <eyfour> Guest89631: Other than that, whichever supported "vanilla" Ubuntu release you choose, it should "just work".
[11:19] <Joupi> iceroot : have to check, I forgot ...
[11:19] <shiv_> hi
[11:20] <iceroot_> seems like ubuntu was building amd64 and i386
[11:20] <iceroot_> info skype partner
[11:20] <iceroot_> !info skype partner
[11:20] <shiv_> hi
[11:20] <shiv_> how r u
[11:20] <Joupi> iceroot, yes I have skype 32 bits
[11:20] <iceroot_> Joupi: thank you
[11:20] <Joupi> no problem
[11:21] <Guest89631> thank you all, I had my infos
[11:22] <eyfour> Guest89631: good luck :)
[11:23] <twenty-three> hello guys, i got a .sh file/script for a command i wish to use but not sure how to get it to be called from the terminal
[11:27] <eyfour> twenty-three: first, you must make sure that the file is executable. Once it is, you can call it by entering its full path as a command (e.g. "/my/scripts/script.sh")
[11:28] <eyfour> twenty-three: if the script is in your current working directory, you can call it by entering "./script.sh"
[11:29] <twenty-three> eyfour: is that like changing its permissions or something?
[11:29] <twenty-three> or how do i make sure it is executable?
[11:31] <eyfour> twenty-three: either enter "chmod +x /path/to/script.sh" in a terminal, or right-click the file, choose properties>permissions>allow this file to run as a program (or similar. I don't use the english version of Ubuntu, but it should say something similar)
[11:32] <twenty-three> noted, thanks a lot eyfour!! :)
[11:33] <eyfour> twenty-three: no problem :)
[11:34] <bl4ckdu5t> After installing apache/mysql/php, I couldn't access my web pages in /var/www from the browser because of some permission issues so I did "chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www" and it works fine for the files I am just creating in it but it's not opening PHP files I moved from my Windows machine to a folder named "Projects"
[11:35] <bl4ckdu5t> any help or suggestions?
[11:35] <hongker> bl4ckdu5t: you can try "chmod 777 /var/www"
[11:37] <bl4ckdu5t> still the same result
[11:37] <bl4ckdu5t> blank web pages
[11:38] <hongker> do you start the apache service
[11:42] <bl4ckdu5t> service apache2 start
[11:46] <bl4ckdu5t> something seems weird tho! After starting apache2, it shows: using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName. I think that should be 127.0.0.1 instead
[11:54] <ro9> greeting all
[11:54] <Levex> hai
[12:11] <bilel> hi, I have moved  a file to /etc/init.d/ directory, now I can start and stop it with "service name start", how can I set it to be started by default on boot, like the webserver, database, and so?
[12:11] <wolff> hi, i have made an img with dd of a flash drive, tried to mount it with ths command sudo mount -o loop,offset=1966095 ~/Desktop/myimgae /media/backupdrive
[12:11] <wolff>  , getting error   wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,
[12:11] <wolff>        missing codepage or
[12:12] <Walex2> wolff: check the offset of course...
[12:16] <geirha> wolff: What did you run to obtain the offset?
[12:20] <wolff> thanks Walex2  !
[12:20] <doomlord> how is sudo pronounced :)
[12:22] <dak0> Hello, can I download drivers from nvidia and just install them, instad from Ubuntu software center because the lastest in Ubuntu software center is 313?
[12:23] <this> hi
[12:23] <geirha> doomlord: Heh, I pronounce it like "pseudo", but it's probably meant to be pronounced like "su do"
[12:24] <doomlord> heh another pronounciation. i always read it soodoh . but thats illogical
[12:24] <ice9> Whats the channel name for Ubuntu development?
[12:24] <doomlord> ubuntu-desktop?
[12:25] <geirha> doomlord: Yeah, that's what I meant with pseudo
[12:25] <geirha> ice9: You mean discussion about the next release? #ubuntu+1
[12:25] <ice9> geirha, no I mean using the Ubuntu sdk to create apps
[12:26] <doomlord> theres ubuntu touch aswell if you mean the bleeding edge next gen
[12:26] <iceroot_> ice9: #ubuntu-dev or #ubuntu-devel
[12:26] <iceroot_> !alis | ice9
[12:26] <BluesKaj> "Morning folks
[12:27] <schoppenhauer> Hi. I have some strange behaviour of Emacs, when editing a php file. Emacs crashes reproducably when typing in a certain character at a certain place
[12:27] <geirha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList  #ubuntu-app-devel apparently
[12:28] <schoppenhauer> geirha: was that @me?
[12:30] <geirha> schoppenhauer: No. For your case, it sounds like a bug that should be reported against the emacs package
[12:30] <dak0> Hello, can I download drivers from nvidia and just install them, instad from Ubuntu software center because the lastest in Ubuntu software center is 313?
[12:30] <crumpeted> Hi all. I'm having trouble setting up my nvidia graphics card properly. Could anyone help? I've tried several solutions posted on the forums but haven't had any luck so far.
[12:30] <schoppenhauer> geirha: php-elisp, probably.
[12:31] <schoppenhauer> when going to "report a bug", I get the error message "Invalid OpenID transaction"
[12:31] <schoppenhauer> (trying to report the bug)
[12:31] <moteprime> Hey there. -Anybody else experience U1 totally slow today??
[12:32] <geirha> schoppenhauer: Heh, that sounds like a bug in launchpad
[12:32] <schoppenhauer> lol
[12:32] <geirha> Try logging out and back in (of launchpad) again maybe
[12:33] <schoppenhauer> ok, it apparently needs referers, cookies and javascript ...
[12:33] <schoppenhauer> all three.
[12:34] <geirha> sounds about right
[12:34] <souliaq> I need a proxy server like polipo, but that accept something like a "accepted list" instead a forbidden list
[12:35] <balrog000> why tor adresses are forbidden here ?
[12:35] <jrib> !tor | balrog000
[12:38] <benhelps> hey all, yet another relative noob here to rooting android
[12:42] <Error404NotFound> I upgraded a really old 10.04 box to 12.04 and mysql can't start: http://pastebin.com/MuSefmTy I have stop apparmor, even with the teardown option instead of 'stop'
[12:43] <moteprime> Are Ubuntu One having slow problems for anybody else than my today??
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: ask in the mysql channel as well
[12:47] <Error404NotFound> ActionParsnip: i am guessing this is due to apparmor at some level. but i would try #mysql too. Thanks, didn't know you were still alive :)
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: someone may have had the same issue. Worth a punt
[12:48] <Error404NotFound> ActionParsnip: true, thanks dude, its been almost a decade seeing you here now :)
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: haha cool
[12:50] <T|ASK> HI, can anyone tell me which name the "build-in" editor of Shutter has? It's not activated here... therefor I search for the needed package name
[12:51] <Error404NotFound> I found the issue.
[12:51] <Error404NotFound> Its apparmor indeed.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> t|ask: if you reinstall the shutter package it should pull in its deps as needed
[12:51] <Error404NotFound> But to solve it i would have to use aa-complaint and i can't install that due to the upgrade being in progress.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> t|ask: or use packages.ubuntu.com to show deps
[12:52] <T|ASK> ActionParsnip: Ok, I thought someone could just have a look at the Help menu of that Editor to get the name ,)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> t|ask: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/shutter seems to be imagemagick
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> t|ask: easy stuff huh. the packages site tells you all deps of a package.
[12:57] <Error404NotFound> damn it, this sucks. Either i stop the upgrade it or just ignore the failed upgrades of tools related to mysqld.
[13:01] <user82> can i use the intel gpu in my desktop pc when a nvidia card is installed cia pci express. or does the uefi turn it off then and linux can not use it?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> user82: if you can disable the Intel GPU then do so. Otherwise you'll need Bumblebee
[13:03] <user82> ActionParsnip, it is a Desktop. I _want_ to use the intel gpu for some tasks. I was refering to http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-031040.htm#8
[13:03] <user82> Is that a Windos thing to turn the internal gpu off or a UEFI thing?
[13:05] <iceroot_> user82: that has nothing to do with windows or uefi
[13:07] <user82> iceroot_, but is hardware disabled? ubuntu can not use it
[13:07] <iceroot_> user82: the hardware is not disabled completly
[13:07] <iceroot_> user82: the driver is just switiching between the intel vga and nvidia vga
[13:08] <user82> i have a program that is messy with my nvidia gpu. that is why i was hoping i could just boot with the internal gpu sometimes instead of my nvidia
[13:08] <iceroot_> user82: use bumbmlebee, there you can switch the cards while the system is running
[13:09] <user82> iceroot_, thanks i will try
[13:09] <iceroot_> !bumblebee | user82
[13:09] <iceroot_> user82: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[13:10] <user82> have it on my notebook. did not know it works for desktops, too
[13:10] <user82> i will try it as soon as possible
[13:10] <iceroot_> user82: if you have NVIDIA Optimus, it will work
[13:11] <iceroot_> user82: if you have 2 real vgas (on onboard and one in pci-e) it will not work
[13:12] <user82> iceroot_, then it will not work in my case
[13:12] <iceroot_> user82: and it that case its up to your bios which card will be active
[13:13] <iceroot_> user82: i am not sure if you can disable a real vga completly with the os. it should be still active
[13:13] <user82> ok. i do not have the hardware here is the problem...i will see soon
[13:16] <Guest64009> So, the only thing Boot-Rescue seemed to do was make the only entry in grub disappear entierly
[13:17] <Gly> Hey all, Can anyone tell me how I could achieve something like this on Ubuntu? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot-ubuntu-704ja.png
[13:18] <trijntje> Gly: what do you mean, change the language to Japanese?
[13:18] <Gly> Yeah, with the whole system having having the correct words. I'm moving to Japan next year and I need to step up my studies to immersion.
[13:19] <trijntje> Gly: if you search for 'Language support' in the Dash you will be able to install new languages for the system
[13:19] <trijntje> I'm not sure how complete japanese translations are though
[13:20] <Gly> Yeah, it would mainly be to keep my exposure up. I tried installing Vine Linux on my laptop but sadly it has little support for my network card.
[13:20] <trijntje> Looks like the 13.04 release is translated for 85% to Japanese, thats not too bad
[13:21] <Gly> Yeah, that should do nicely
[13:22] <Gly> Thanks.
[13:24] <starbuck> hi, how can i do a broadcast ping to find all hosts in the network that are up?
[13:25] <starbuck> ping -b 192.168.1.255 doesn't do anything
[13:26] <Frank81> starbuck: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+find+all+hosts+in+a+network&l=1
[13:27] <trijntje> !lmgtfy | Frank81
[13:28] <Frank81> sudo apt-get install arp-scan && sudo arp-scan --interface=eth0 --localnet
[13:28] <Frank81> is then the right answer @ starbuck
[13:29] <BluesKaj> starbuck, then do , sudo arp-scan --interface=eth0 --localnet
[13:29] <Frank81> bluesKaj i already told him that
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Frank81, yeah , I saw it too late
[13:29] <starbuck> ok, thx guys Frank81 & BluesKaj ... but what is the -b option for then on the ping command?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> was consultinmg my cli commands file
[13:30] <Frank81> BluesKaj but maybe you can help me! i can't use my vpn any more its any pc dependent firewall or else blocking problem on this ubuntu machine only coz other pc's behind same router have access
[13:31] <Frank81> -b
[13:31] <Frank81> Allow pinging a broadcast address.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Frank81, which vpn protocal /
[13:31] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:31] <Frank81> hamachi is used so it is hmmm
[13:31] <BluesKaj> not familiar with that
[13:32] <Frank81> its not a vpn connection problem i need to know all firewall software or else blocking software
[13:32] <Frank81> that is shipped with ubuntu
[13:33] <Frank81> iptables  looks ok but could paste that
[13:33] <BluesKaj> !ufw
[13:33] <Frank81> ufw is inactive
[13:33] <BluesKaj> sorry Frank81 , i don't use iptables :(
[13:33] <Frank81> iptables is inactive too
[13:34] <Frank81> i don't know why i lost the ability to ping it i changed nothing hmmm
[13:34] <onca> ok, so, update-grub corrupted grub.cfg and the Grub-Rescue made everything worse, what now?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Frank81, check your vpn client settings
[13:35] <trijntje> onca: What is your setup?
[13:35] <Frank81> It is working it shows the other connected pc's
[13:35] <Frank81> thats not the part where it fails there is anything blocking traffic
[13:35] <Frank81> and i traced it down to this pc that is running ubuntu since its the only one with that fail
[13:35] <onca> I have 13.08 on sda2 and boot is sda1 sda3 is windows and sda4 is an enormous unused partition on AMD64
[13:36] <onca> trijntje, sorry, sda1:boot sda2:root sda3:windows sda4:space
[13:36] <onca> trijntje: I am in ubuntu liveCD and can easily chroot into my old system.
[13:37] <trijntje> onca: is the boot flag set on the windows partition?
[13:37] <onca> windows is the only partition that boots
[13:37] <onca> and yes.
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Frank81, yes check the vpn client settings on your pc , not the server
[13:39] <trijntje> onca: have you tried simply reinstalling grub?
[13:39] <trijntje> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[13:39] <onca> trijntje: that's how I got as far as I have.
[13:39] <onca> but I still cannot stat init message.
[13:39] <Frank81> BluesKaj: i am checking if its a routing prbolem or else coz i get on ping
[13:40] <Frank81> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[13:40] <onca> I would kill for my original grub files. they worked fine, just had no windows
[13:40] <onca> I tried to add my windows installation with update-grub and now my system fails
[13:41] <trijntje> onca: have you checked the wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal
[13:41] <BluesKaj> onca, have your run sudo os-prober in the terminal ?
[13:41] <mrwang> no
[13:41] <onca> BluesKaj: yah, it only mentions /dev/sda2:Ubuntu
[13:42] <trijntje> onca: since you have a separate boot partition, you also need the use the --boot-directory flag
[13:42] <onca> I did that
[13:42] <onca> and installation is no problem it's the configuration
[13:43] <BluesKaj> onca, why use a boot partition , not really necessary anymore '
[13:43] <onca> trijntje: I used the wiki's tutorial, both methods didn't fix my problem
[13:43] <onca> because I have more than one distro. So I keep my boot files in one partition
[13:44] <onca> I'm this far along, are you suggesting I start over?
[13:45] <flipper88_fl> How does one disable compiting
[13:45] <trijntje> onca: what do you mean you have more than one distro? I thought you only had 3 partitions
[13:46] <onca> I intend to have another on my fourth.
[13:46] <onca> how do I instruct grub2 to rebuild all of the configuration files?
[13:48] <flipper88_fl> onca: updae-grub or is it grub-update
[13:48] <trijntje> onca: what version of ubuntu are you using? According to the wiki, grub-install should overwrite all old config files. What is the error message you get while booting?
[13:48] <onca> trijntje: 13.10
[13:49] <trijntje> onca: 13.10? That release is not stable yet, and not recommended for use
[13:49] <onca> still, this isn't about the installation, moreso why when I came back to fix grub my system is kaput
[13:50] <onca> I was happy with ubuntu, grub is a pain in my a** though
[13:50] <BluesKaj> onca, which grub are you using?
[13:50] <flipper88_fl> onca: have you tires supergrtubdisc?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> onca, try #ubuntu+1 . you might get more co-operation there
[13:55] <BluesKaj> onekt, do you have a live cd/usb that you can use , we can do some commands to reinstall grub from it .
[13:55] <BluesKaj> oops sorry onekt , onca left
[13:57] <marianne> hi guys... anyone manage to get an android connected on 12.04...android is on ICS and the otpions available don't include USB for some reason
[13:58] <navyseal> hi all
[13:58] <navyseal> there's any elementary os channel?
[13:59] <compdoc> meaning?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> if you talking about ubuntu OS , this is the place, navyseal
[13:59] <boog> marianne, mtp is supported on 13.04, but not on 12.04. one reason why I upgraded to 13.04
[13:59] <kostkon> !elementary | navyseal
[13:59] <kostkon> damn
[14:00] <compdoc> !damn | kostkon
[14:00] <compdoc> shucks
[14:00] <marianne> boog: seriously? can I cry now? been looking online all morning....you pretty much confirmed my suspicions
[14:00] <BluesKaj> marianne,  what did you decide about your pci soundcard ?
[14:01] <marianne> boog: but then I can't even get my Mac to 'see' it
[14:01] <AlexPortable> : Ophalen van http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages is mislukt  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[14:01] <boog> marianne, there are some ppa's that will add it to 12.04, but I personally think that 13.04 support is better
[14:02] <marianne> BluesKaj: went with the onboard and returned the card. RTFM'd the mother manual and found the onboard does what I was looking for the sound card to do... i have 5.1 now  :-)
[14:02] <neta> a stupid question- i have a dual boot- windows7 with lubuntu 13.04, so i have grub2. i made a bootable usb-stick with another linux distro (i want to try it). how can i make the grub2 too boot from the usb?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> marianne, cool :)
[14:02] <marianne> boog: want an LTS version then....
[14:02] <boog> it seems there are still some issued to be worked out, like copying a folder with a large number of files seems to fail
[14:03] <compdoc> boog, thats often a hardware problem
[14:03] <marianne> boog: going to see if I can move all my data to the sim card and the pop it out and put it in a 'reader'
[14:03] <boog> compdoc, I have had the issue on multiple computers, and different android devices
[14:03] <AlexPortable> how do i fix dis
[14:05] <boog> marianne, you can also try options like the ftp server built into es file explorer or airdroid
[14:06] <BluesKaj> neta, or you could use the usb to install grub to the mbr
[14:06] <boog> airdroid is neat because you can do more than just transfer files
[14:07] <marianne> boog: pretty new to android stuff and I'm working off a fresh install of 12.04 on new hardware. yeah, learning curve here.
[14:08] <boog> yup, I was there too. especially after getting a nexus 7, and finding that mass storage mode was gone from android
[14:09] <marianne> boog: I have a galaxy s3 and yeah... I undrestand why the developers did what they did, but man... they could have warned us
[14:09] <basit> where can i get ubuntu touch binaries to install and test on my android tablet? and a good tutorial on installing the same
[14:10] <boog> I have the S3, too. I'm not sure who had warning lol, but it is still aggravating. I'm sure linux will catch up before long
[14:11] <marianne> boog: found instructions on how to set it up and connect with terminal, but that's for another day... little too hungover from last nights MMA fights
[14:12] <boog> hahaha! Like I said, try airdroid.
[14:12] <neta> BlueKaj, when i boot my computer ignore the usb
[14:13] <BluesKaj> neta, what did you use to install ubuntu ?
[14:15] <neta> BluesKaj, when i had only windows i changed the bios to make it boot from usb, and installed ubuntu. now when i change the bios options it still ignores the usb
[14:17] <BluesKaj> neta, do you have a cdrom , could you burn an ubuntu-live cd?
[14:17] <neta> BluesKaj, no cd-rom.. only usb ports
[14:19] <BluesKaj> neta, only usb ports , but can't boot from them ...hmm check the usb stick to make sure the ubuntu imahe is still on it
[14:19] <BluesKaj> image
[14:21] <neta> BluesKaj, yep.. i had no problems installing ubuntu from that very usb-stick.. i assumed it's becouse the grub2 maybe..
[14:22] <BluesKaj> neta, nope , grub should have installed without any trouble
[14:22] <BluesKaj> grub2 rather
[14:22] <BluesKaj> but you do see the grub menu when booting , right ?
[14:23] <AlexPortable> anyone whoc an help me?
[14:23] <neta> BluesKaj, yes, i can go to my lubuntu and windows.. just not the usb
[14:25] <Oxymoron> IS it possible to change my IP, to make webbrowser think I am on a different IP, even that I aint?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> sorry neta , I misread your orginal question ..facepalm!
[14:26] <AlexPortable> hi?>
[14:26] <AlexPortable> fdtrijlihtfdrtfghijkogytf
[14:26] <AlexPortable> Oxymoron: why do you want that for your webbrowser?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> AlexPortable, justr ask your question
[14:27] <Extreminador> Oxymoron nop... the ip address is not something that is resolved in the computer
[14:27] <Oxymoron> AlexPortable: To get around a chat block on a website :P
[14:27] <Extreminador> it's something resolved in your isp
[14:27] <neta> BluesKaj, lol :) so do you know? is there a command or something to do that?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, use a vpn
[14:27] <Oxymoron> Extreminador: Yes I know, but if you could mask the IP adress, like proxy but without using Proxy because the website can detect it.
[14:27] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: VPN is the only way? How to setup for free?
[14:28] <AlexPortable> Oxymoron: that's not browser ip
[14:28] <BluesKaj> neta, no I don't
[14:28] <neta> BluesKaj, if that metters, i have uefi
[14:28] <Oxymoron> AlexPortable: What is not?
[14:28] <neta> BluesKaj, ok.. thanks anyway :)
[14:28] <Oxymoron> Extreminador: I am using a mobile broadband btw, if that helps? WOuldnt it be possible to force ISP to change IP on my router?
[14:29] <AlexPortable> Oxymoron: chat block around isn for browser
[14:29] <trijntje> neta: it could be that the bios sees the usb as another hard disk, can you check the bios when you have the usb in the pc to see if it shows two harddisks
[14:29] <AlexPortable> that's for whole network to be applied
[14:29] <Extreminador> well Oxymoron my knowlgement in internet is not that good... i am not sure how proxys works in order to not detect you actual ip address rather that the proxy address
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, check the pm
[14:30] <Oxymoron> AlexPortable: What you mean?
[14:30] <neta> trijntje, how to do that?
[14:30] <Extreminador> i think proxys work like an antenna that repeats your "connection question" and send it to the disire destination... them the desire destination reply to the antenna that send's you back the reply
[14:31] <Extreminador> sow i guess it's like you ask me to ask someone your questions
[14:31] <Oxymoron> Extreminador: As a web developer I know how to detect IP BEHIND the proxy from a website. Thats why I would need to change IP without proxy.
[14:31] <trijntje> neta: that depends on the BIOS, does it have a key to change the boot order just once?
[14:31] <Extreminador> ohh Oxymoron :) them you know more that me...
[14:33] <neta> trijntje, i don't think so, but i can change and rechange.. it's weird because before i had lubuntu i just enabled uefi and it booted from the usb
[14:33] <Oxymoron> Extreminador: However I have not used any VPN or similar before. It should be easy to get around this. Like force Ubuntu/computer to think I am on a different iSP, than I am actually on, to work around the router IP.
[14:45] <AlexPortable> Oxymoron: nothing
[14:48] <t4nk143> how do I show all the directories when im at root? I want to see /etc /dev and so on
[14:49] <t4nk143> ls dosen't list anything
[14:49] <c0d37ar> ls fullpath
[14:50] <linuxuz3r> they remove yahoo on online accounts
[14:50] <jrib> t4nk143: pastebin what you are actually doing
[14:52] <t4nk143> I just want to ls the subdirectorie at "/root"
[14:53] <jrib> t4nk143: are you sure you have any...?
[14:54] <t4nk143> lol nvm,
[14:56] <ShakinShark> Hi
[15:02] <abdeljalil> how can i creat a home network on ubuntu
[15:03] <RILA> what you see under a home network?
[15:03] <gordonjcp> abdeljalil: get some computers, install ubuntu, network them together
[15:03] <RILA> You already got a home network bcs you are on a LAN i suppose.
[15:03] <RILA> Give all your PC's an IP in the same subnet.
[15:03] <RILA> That will create a
[15:03] <RILA> "Home Network"
[15:03] <abdeljalil> i use elementary not ubuntu (ubuntu based)
[15:04] <RILA> Still same story.
[15:04] <abdeljalil> under network i see "entire network"
[15:04] <RILA> Did you assign an IP?
[15:04] <RILA> Or did your DHCP client received DHCP offer?
[15:04] <abdeljalil> -_- i dont know what you are talking about!!!
[15:05] <RILA> Do you have network connection?
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[15:05] <abdeljalil> what is that too ?
[15:06] <RILA> What do you want to achieve?>
[15:06] <RILA> On your Ubuntu OS?
[15:07] <abdeljalil> just a way to share files and folders
[15:08] <abdeljalil> between my pc and other's
[15:08] <RILA> Okay
[15:08] <RILA> Make sure you put the PC's in the same network with an IP address.
[15:08] <RILA> For example 192.168.0.1 = PC1
[15:08] <RILA> 192.168.0.2 = PC2
[15:09] <RILA> Then y can share files by SMB
[15:09] <RILA> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1685718
[15:09] <linuxuz3r> SMB?
[15:09] <RILA> In that thread they explain how to share files by SMB
[15:09] <abdeljalil> okay, i will read that, thank's
[15:09] <RILA> Samba filesharing. SMB is the protocol for sharing files on Linux.
[15:11] <abdeljalil> can i use that to share files between linux and other OS
[15:11] <RILA> Yes
[15:11] <RILA> Windows also supports SMB.
[15:11] <linuxuz3r> smb is supported under windows
[15:11] <abdeljalil> good :)
[15:11] <linuxuz3r> what about mac RILA ?
[15:11] <RILA> Also
[15:11] <RILA> Almost every OS supports SMB.
[15:11] <RILA> Inc Mac OS x
[15:11] <RILA> including8
[15:11] <RILA> *
[15:11] <FloodBot1> RILA: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:12] <name5566> inc windows
[15:23] <linuxuz3r> anyone using epiphany
[15:27] <tosate> I want to get the width and height of an image using Image Magick's identify. My picture is 1920x1275. The command 'identify -quiet -format %w [picture]' returns 1920160. Any ideas?
[15:28] <universal> whats the difference between purge and remove --purge ?? simple apt-get purge also removes packages 1st then purges config files.
[15:28] <delac> internal micrphone on eM250 does not work on Raring. I have tried "options snd-hda-intel model=auto/acer/acer-aspire/acer-dmic" but with no luck. Any thoughts?
[15:28] <RILA> Remove is removing the binary
[15:29] <RILA> Purge is removing the config files in /etc/
[15:29] <RILA> Delic
[15:29] <name5566> yes
[15:29] <RILA> Delic: you add it to alsa-mix?
[15:29] <universal> RILA: i asked purge and remove --purge and not purge and remove
[15:30] <universal> RILA: still thnx for your reply
[15:30] <jrib> tosate: are you sure...?
[15:31] <jrib> tosate: if you're not sure what to say, pastebin actual input and output
[15:32] <elijah> How can I find out where an application (recordmydesktop) stores overrides to defaults? I want to reset the defaults. Cannot easily find in home folder, including .local, and apt-get remove/install does not reset them.
[15:32] <jrib> elijah: check ~/.config.  You could probably use strace to see where it makes writes or read documentation (latter is probably easier0
[15:33] <delac> RILA:  alsamixer? I do have stuff in alsamixer, but that either has no effect or affects only external mic. Sound settings do show controls for both external and internal mic.
[15:33] <elijah> jrib: Thanks, docs don't show anything, I will check .config and maybe try strace. thx
[15:34] <RILA> Universal
[15:34] <RILA> I found your answer in the manpage.
[15:34] <RILA> Purge is removing the config files when the binary already got removed.
[15:35] <DeonP> anyone know xl2tpd pretty well ? :)
[15:37] <Legion59> G'Morning all
[15:37] <tosate> jrib: It's obviously a TIFF image consisting of a thumbnail and the actual image. The output contains the two widths 1920 and 160.
[15:38] <jrib> tosate: what are you actually inputting?
[15:38] <jrib> tosate: oh, never mind.  Misread.  One second
[15:38] <tosate> jrib: a TIFF image
[15:39] <jrib> tosate: i meant the command you type
[15:39] <name5566> goodnight all
[15:39] <tosate> 'identify -quiet -format %w [picture]'
[15:39] <tosate> jrib: 'identify -quiet -format %w [picture]'
[15:39] <jrib> tosate: [picture]?
[15:39] <jrib> tosate: that would match files like 'p', 'i', etc
[15:40] <tosate> jrib: that's the path to my picture
[15:40] <tosate> jrib: 'identify -quiet -format %w /home/tosate/mypic.tif'
[15:40] <universal> RILA: no man...still no help.....I am asking the difference between apt-get purge xxxpackage and apt-get remove --purge xxxpackage and not between apt-get remove xxxpackage and apt-get purge xxxpackage.....I am asking this to bring out and understand the use of apt-get remove --purge xxxpackage when apt-get purge xxxpackage already removes the package 1st and then purges its config file by itself
[15:41] <aJayMet66> Hi everybody!
[15:41] <universal> others ^^^
[15:42] <ubunturemaster> I'm remastering an Ubuntu Live CD. I want basically a browser(firefox, chrome), a media player, pdf viewer and flash to work in addition to networking. Where can I find a list of other removable packages?
[15:42] <tosate> jrib: I have to add an index: 'identify -format %w /home/tosate/mypic.tif[0]'
[15:42] <jrib> tosate: ah, cool
[15:42] <ThePieMan> hello, can anybody tell me whats image is this and how is it related to Ubuntu? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yA5byanLRIQ/UTeBOe6M1rI/AAAAAAAAFK0/FzRjrlAaZR8/s1000-fcrop64=1,00000090ff9ed7f6/____nyan_cat_precise_____wallpaper_by_sonyrootkit-d4vyep9.png
[15:43] <RILA> Universal: apt-get remove --purge xxxpackage can only be used when the package is still installed and will remove binary and config file. apt-get purge xxxpackage can be used without the binary on your system and will remove only the config files.
[15:43] <ubunturemaster> And, what's the alternative for Totem now? I seem unable to install VLC or smplayer.
[15:44] <ThePieMan> ubunturemaster, Parole Media Player
[15:44] <ubunturemaster> ThePieMan: apt-get install ... ?
[15:44] <universal> RILA: hmm....but when you purge any package then it shows in terminal that its removeing the package 1st and then removing its config files
[15:45] <ThePieMan> !find parole
[15:45] <universal> so it looks like the same
[15:45] <ubunturemaster> thank you ThePieMan
[15:45] <ThePieMan> ubunturemaster, np
[15:46] <RILA> universal: its the same yes. Only apt-get remove --purge can only be run when the libary exist on your system. If not you have to run apt-get purge to remove the config files
[15:46] <FastCode> is it okay for compiz edge attraction to make windows behave weird or is it conflicting with something else?
[15:47] <jeeves_moss> is there a good package that's free to monitor an Exchange 2010 server with Nagios?
[15:47] <universal> RILA: meaning the binary in /var/cache/apt/archives ??
[15:49] <RILA> universal: no mostly apt-get will install the binary in /usr/bin
[15:49] <DeonP> where can i go to get some help with xl2tpd setup
[15:49] <ThePieMan> can anybody tell me tell me whats image is this and how is it related to Ubuntu? http://i.imgur.com/gTacrGe.png
[15:50] <Craig910> Nya cat
[15:50] <Craig910> no its not related to ubuntu
[15:51] <gordonjcp> ThePieMan: 12.04 desktop wallpaper
[15:51] <gordonjcp> with added nyancat
[15:51] <ThePieMan> Craig910, ok, thanks! only the background image is ubuntu wallpaper
[15:51] <ThePieMan> gordonjcp, ok thanks
[15:52] <ubunturemaster> I'm remastering an Ubuntu Live CD. I want basically a browser(firefox, chrome), a media player, pdf viewer and flash to work in addition to networking. Where can I find a list of other removable packages?
[15:55] <Seeker`> 2/wc
[15:55] <evilmarshmallow> Hi there.
[15:56] <evilmarshmallow> If I chance the username it automatically change the user's folder name too?
[15:57] <neekz0r> ubunturemaster: ouch... i don't know that you are going to find such a list since all those of requirments for a base install, i would start from a base system with nothing installed and build up from there
[15:57] <neekz0r> evilmarshmallow: how are you changing the username?
[15:57] <RILA> neekz0r: with usermod
[15:58] <RILA> evilmarshmallow: it wont change the folder name. Though, your useraccount will still be linked to that folder.
[15:58] <ubunturemaster> neekz0r: I'm behind a slow internet connection. Altough that'd be ideal, it's time consuming for me. I already got ride of bluetooth, libreoffice, empathy, thunder and ubuntu sso related stuff.
[15:58] <ubunturemaster> neekz0r: Am sure there's a lot more obvious stuff.
[15:58] <neekz0r> evilmarshmallow: then yes, if you use the option '-m'
[15:59] <evilmarshmallow> Thanks neekz0r, I'm trying it.
[15:59] <neekz0r> ubunturemaster: yeah, a lot..
[16:00] <ubunturemaster> neekz0r: Anything large that comes to your mind?
[16:02] <neekz0r> ubunturemaster: i would recommend dpkg --get-selections
[16:02] <neekz0r> and then weed out what you think you don't need
[16:03] <neekz0r> although, if your project is just to get a 'functional cd' os, i would just use knoppix instead
[16:07] <imanc> is there a screen sharing meeting app like join.me or teamviewer that works on ubuntu?
[16:08] <linuxuz3r> where can i contribute to debug projects
[16:08] <auronandace> imanc: you can install teamviewer from their site but anything installed from outside the repos can't be officially supported here
[16:16] <gattuso5065> search somebody which want to become my pen friend
[16:17] <DeonP> hello folks
[16:22] <gassho> chromium-browser keeps disappearing or something in 13.04
[16:22] <gassho> in unity
[16:25] <yokomishu> こんにちわ
[16:25] <yokomishu> は誰日本語を話す？
[16:26] <OerHeks> !jp | yokomishu
[16:26] <yokomishu> ok
[16:26] <____> how do I do  chmod +x to see if this will install with wine
[16:29] <OerHeks> ____, chmod +x <filename> # see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#Changing_Permissions
[16:30] <____> owner@owner /tmp $ chmod +x mtssa-1.3.3.exe
[16:30] <____> chmod: cannot access ‘mtssa-1.3.3.exe’: No such file or directory
[16:30] <OerHeks> ____, <filename> = /path/to/<filename>
[16:31] <OerHeks> ____, for further issues, join #winehq for application help
[16:31] <____> oh i misspelt thefilename
[16:32] <____> missing operand after ‘mtasa-1.3.3.exe’
[16:33] <see1> how i can install fail2ban ???
[16:33] <____> omg why is this so fucking awkward
[16:34] <see1> ubuntu says cant find packed
[16:34] <____> I dont understand  <filename> = /path/to/<filename>
[16:34] <pyrex> so it turns out the windows 8 system recovery partition has the bootloader on it -- and i blindly decided to erase it with grub2 files. now windows complains it cant find the BCD files
[16:34] <OerHeks> see1 there is a good wiki about fail2ban > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban
[16:34] <____> what am I meant to type
[16:35] <____> its tmp/mtasa-1.3.3.exe
[16:35] <vlt> Hello. I connected a new screen to my DVI video out but it says "out of range". xrandr says the following: http://pastebin.com/95SRVv7j  Any idea what to check and how to make the screen work?
[16:35] <pyrex> any suggestions? I plan to try to recovery mode, but meh I have a complicated GPT/MBR setup and it always gets confused
[16:35] <see1> OerHeks: jo i know ..but if i type apt-get install he mean can´t find packed
[16:35] <OerHeks> ____, learn your basics first: using a file outside your /home/ needs sudo
[16:36] <OerHeks> see1, what ubuntu version ?
[16:36] <see1> OerHeks: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.45-x86_64-jb1 x86_64)
[16:36] <DeonP> i'm running ubuntu server 13.04 and have to connect to my isp to get a fixed ip on adsl, The connection is via PPP and L2TP. I'm using xl2tpd for this. got all setup xl2tpd starts but does not start pppd for some reason, ppp auth is PAP
[16:36] <____> ok now I got no errors
[16:37] <Mnemon> ____: chmod +x file.exe or chmod +x /tmp/file.exe should work if you're in /tmp folder.
[16:37] <____> but wine still cant open it
[16:37] <Mnemon> OerHeks: you can usually write to /tmp as normal user ...
[16:37] <Frank81> Any one can suggest a way to see what moduls get loaded by what init ram drive img?
[16:37] <____> illl download it to downlods/
[16:37] <RILA> ____: Look if it is runing with the command top
[16:38] <RILA> _____: cant you just better use windows instead of Linux? You dont even know some basics.
[16:38] <Frank81> RILA can you help me if you know more then some basics
[16:39] <RILA> Well i am not a professional but i do handle the basics yes.
[16:39] <____> error launching explorer still
[16:40] <Frank81> i have the problem that with any kernel after 3.8 the luks password can't be entered on boot i tracked that problem down since it only happens with new kernels that it is probally that the usb hid driver don't get loaded so how can i fix that or even see if it gets loaded i have no keyboard when i boot kernel after 3.8 so i see only luks passwd prompt and can't enter anything
[16:40] <Mnemon> ____: what error are you getting?
[16:40] <____> why would I go back to windows
[16:40] <pyrex> Frank81 try booting with init=/bin/bash might work then lsmod
[16:40] <____> 'error launching installer'
[16:40] <____> NSIS error
[16:40] <OerHeks> ____, for further issues, join #winehq for application help
[16:41] <____> thanks
[16:41] <Mnemon> then the executable probably just doen't work with wine.
[16:41] <RILA> Frank81: Is your keyboard working during your Grub Bootloader?
[16:41] <Frank81> jep looks like it
[16:42] <auronandace> Frank81: this channel can't support kernels that are not from the official repos
[16:42] <Frank81> i can choose other kernels and rescue mode and enter bios etc
[16:42] <Frank81> aronand no kernel support needed general support needed
[16:42] <Frank81> this scenario applys to any kernel i need to see if the new kernel loads the usb drivers
[16:42] <Frank81> thats a general case
[16:43] <Frank81> and you can google it such things even  happend on 2.6 kernels and so on
[16:44] <Frank81> pyrex: good advice thx but i don't wanna reboot the machine at present again i am searching for a none reboot option to simply see what gets loaded or not i heard there are utils for such but maybe not in ubuntu coz to new
[16:47] <Frank81> so here realy no one ever looked what moduls get loaded by a init rd img do i see that right? you only know the ability what is currently loaded when system booted?
[16:47] <pyrex> Frank81 alright, well you could mount the intrd.img file and look around to make sure the modules you need are there.
[16:47] <Frank81> i did that they are there
[16:47] <Frank81> but i need to look what he loads i found only information of /etc/modules
[16:48] <Frank81> but that can't it be ^
[16:48] <pyrex> hmm. perhaps looking through dmesg? not sure aside from that
[16:48] <bean> Frank81, is english your native language? just wondering?
[16:50] <Frank81> bean nope it isn't why?
[16:50] <Frank81> i know my english sucks a bit sorry for that i try my best :D
[16:51] <Frank81> hmmm maybe i simply say this is a bug and report it that will make my head free
[16:57] <bean> Frank81, because maybe someone in a language you know better could help you. :)
[16:57] <bean> idk
[16:58] <____> HELP
[16:58] <____> OerHeks
[16:59] <Frank81> bean maybe maybe but the people at +1 aggree that we simply call it a bug
[16:59] <Frank81> so they will care for that ^
[16:59] <Frank81> thx anyway
[16:59] <____> HELP!!
[17:00] <ubuntu-studio> hello
[17:00] <____> IVE BEEN IN #winehq and everybody is fucking idle
[17:00] <IdleOne> ____: Please stop swearing
[17:00] <____> ive been to #mta everybody is a retarded kid
[17:01] <____> 'oh use mac' 'ohwell use windows'
[17:01] <____> NO!
[17:02] <pyrex> if wine doesnt work then a vm is a solid option.
[17:03] <ubuntu-studio> i wrote on gedit a string in c and then i run on terminal gcc and the name of the prog, but it tells me No such file or directory. why
[17:03] <____> My control pads wont work with mac or windows
[17:03] <pyrex>  /NETWORK ADD -autosendcmd /msg nickserv identify wilson
[17:03] <pyrex> ops
[17:03] <Frank81> ubuntu-studio: it tells you that coz the file is simply not there
[17:03] <pyrex> haha
[17:03] <____> the cd dont work in virtualbox
[17:04] <Frank81> 19:04:03 - NickServ: You have been logged out of Frank81.
[17:04] <Frank81> 19:04:03 - NickServ: You are now identified for pyrex.
[17:04] <Frank81> nice
[17:04] <Frank81> :D
[17:04] <FloodBot1> Frank81: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:04] <ubuntu-studio> ok but why its not there if i saved the file with c  extension on the desktop
[17:04] <pyrex> :( damn spaces
[17:05] <ubuntu-studio> frank81
[17:05] <Frank81> ubuntu-studio: don't know and whats more importent no other will know simply search for the file do "sudo find / -iname 'filename.c'"
[17:05] <Frank81> that will work
[17:06] <Frank81> then you see if the file is there and where
[17:06] <andycc> ubuntu-studio: gcc ~/Desktop/*.c
[17:07] <ubuntu-studio> fran81 andycc  thanks guys
[17:09] <gattuso5065> there is somebody  which speaks french here
[17:09] <bazhang> gattuso5065, #ubuntu-fr for that
[17:10] <gattuso5065> because i am french ...
[17:11] <bazhang> !fr | gattuso5065
[17:11] <gattuso5065> ok thx
[17:15] <gabriel_> somewhere can help for connecting me at a T411 channel ?
[17:17] <OerHeks> !alis
[17:23] <nick123> Hi. Whats the easisest language to learn and earn, php, python, html or other?:)
[17:24] <nick123> As first language
[17:24] <nick123> Or c plus plus
[17:25] <bazzer> hey anyone happen to know the status of the gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor bugs?
[17:25] <bazhang> !ot | nick123
[17:25] <nick123> ok sorry
[17:25] <bazzer> i think it's the cause of my problems trying to loopback mount a large number of iso files...it pegs my cpu at 100%
[17:26] <nick123> Is ubuntu better thenn win 8?
[17:26] <green_geeky_dude> Yes
[17:27] <nick123> Ok:)
[17:27] <green_geeky_dude> yw :)
[17:27] <bazhang> nick123, thats a chat question; #ubuntu-offtopic Please
[17:28] <nick123> Becouse of file system i guess
[17:28] <nick123> :)
[17:28] <nick123>  Baz ok sorry
[17:31] <gassho> how do i access and implement asm on ubuntu
[17:36] <shut> Does anybody know about a software similar to EpocCam that i can use my ipad cam as a webcam on Linux Laptop?
[17:42] <mustafal> أي شخص يتكلم العربية؟
[17:43] <mustafal> ايم تواجه مشكلة مع أوبونتو
[17:44] <mustafal> djones what do I done???
[17:45] <DJones> mustafal: Just sent you a private message
[17:45] <basichash> What does -p do in cp -p?
[17:47] <andycc> basichash: try "man cp" first, maybe. http://man.cx/cp
[17:48] <mustafal> انا بحاجة الى مساعدة مع "سوف segfault" أوبونتو بلدي في كل مكان
[17:48] <basichash> thanks andycc
[17:48] <DJones> !arabic
[17:49] <mustafal> thanks
[17:51] <loki_> hello all!
[17:52] <tyl3r> nterthegame.com
[17:53] <loki_> I am looking for some help.  I just installed a 4 port SATA card in a system I just built, however the drive is not showing.  I used LSPCI to check and see if the card is even being detected by ubuntu and it is.  Any idea how I can get this working?  Per the mfg the card is supported in kernels 2.6.x and higher.  I am currently on kernel 3.8.0-29.  Any help would be appreciated :D
[17:54] <DeonP> anyone have experience with xl2tpd or can refer me to someone that has
[17:56] <loki_> dead in here :D
[18:01] <loki_> 1643 people in the room and no one is talking? WTF?
[18:02] <daftykins> loki_: oh hi
[18:02] <daftykins> loki_: 'sudo fdisk -l' doesn't show the disk at all?
[18:02] <loki_> let me try
[18:02] <green_geeky_dude> <- is busy drinking coffee and eating cuppy cakes - this is important stuff
[18:02] <loki_> it doesn't show in gparted
[18:02] <daftykins> green_geeky_dude: carry on the good work, sir
[18:03] <green_geeky_dude> TY :) will do
[18:03] <loki_> tried mount -a
[18:03] <loki_> nothing
[18:03] <loki_> let me try frisk -l
[18:03] <loki_> fdisk
[18:03] <daftykins> well if it's a blank disk it won't be mounted anywhere (:
[18:03] <loki_> it's not blank
[18:04] <loki_> not showing in fdisk
[18:05] <loki_> any ideas daftykins ?
[18:05] <daftykins> loki_: what card is it? what's the lspci entry?
[18:05] <loki_> hold please, let me get the link
[18:06] <loki_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124064
[18:06] <loki_> that is the card
[18:06] <loki_> lspci entry shows this
[18:06] <loki_> 01:00.0 SATA controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 9215 (rev 10)
[18:07] <daftykins> and which ubuntu is this?
[18:08] <loki_> 12.04.3
[18:08] <zykotick9> loki_: what is the pciid, looks like 22222:22222 type thing, use "lspci -vnvn" to get it.
[18:08] <loki_> ok hold on
[18:10] <loki_> pastebin.com/ZbfXY0KT
[18:11] <zykotick9> sorry i don't go to pastebin.com...
[18:11] <loki_> ok.  hang on.  I will drop it in to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:11] <daftykins> zykotick9: you're serious?
[18:11] <daftykins> O_O
[18:12] <loki_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6052232/
[18:12] <loki_> either way.
[18:12] <loki_> anything look strange there?
[18:12] <daftykins> wow at how google comes up with nothing for ubuntu + that card
[18:13] <loki_> I got one or two hits, but nothing of use
[18:13] <daftykins> hrmm i wonder if this 'mvs' driver is of any use
[18:13] <zykotick9> loki_: good luck with that card.  from #debian's judd bot "[1b4b:9215] is 'Unknown device' from 'Marvell Technology Group Ltd.' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid."  that's NOT a good sign for support...  hope you get it working.
[18:14] <loki_> :( that sucks
[18:14] <meet> hi. I installed e17. but i am not able to set any icons for applications. from the right click menu when i try to set an icon from /usr/share/icons i get an error like no permission to modify in this directory. what can i do?
[18:15] <loki_> so looks like I am dead in the water.
[18:16] <greg_> hello! i have a problem with ubuntu server 12.04. it is serving samba shares and users are authenticated with active directory via winbind. Unfortunately it is not possible anymore to login via console nor ssh to the server. after the password prompt a timeout follows. My guess is that my /etc/pam.d/common-auth is the root of the problem: http://pastebin.com/dPRyHU1E . help please
[18:17] <daftykins> loki_: check this out from the manufacturer site: http://www.sybausa.com/resource/SI-PEX40064/88SE91xx_Linux%20web.htm
[18:18] <loki_> daftykins: I believe I am running ACHI as it is.
[18:18] <loki_> AHCI
[18:18] <loki_> any way I can verify that from CLI?
[18:22] <daftykins> loki_: i think it's beyond me that one, sorry :(
[18:22] <loki_> no worries
[18:23] <loki_> it sounds like this thing just isn't going to work
[18:23] <DeonP> no biters on xl2tpd :)
[18:25] <loki_> question about larger drives
[18:25] <loki_> daftykins: perhaps you could answer something for me?
[18:25] <daftykins> just ask away ^_^
[18:26] <loki_> : if I format a 3TB drive as GPT, shouldn't fdisk report that it has more than 63sectors/track?
[18:26] <loki_> it looks like the sector size may be wrong.  is this a problem?
[18:26] <loki_> says the sector size (logical) is 512 and physical is 4096.  saying that for 3 drives (1 3TB and 2 2TB drives)
[18:29] <daftykins> loki_: not sure, i was under the impression sector size is a bit antiquated
[18:30] <loki_> I was under the impression that anything larger than 2.1TB would always have a sector size of 4096.
[18:30] <Guest11837> hello :)
[18:30] <Guest11837> i need help regarding Ubuntu 12.04.3
[18:31] <daftykins> loki_: oh for the 4KB clusters? meh, i'm not sure fdisk is even up to GPT reading
[18:31] <daftykins> Guest11837: ask away
[18:31] <Guest11837> i need it running for my graduation project sir
[18:31] <loki_> it says it isn't.
[18:31] <Guest11837> but i am not able to start wifi in it
[18:32] <Guest11837> i need to run ns-2 with wifi on it
[18:32] <Guest11837> i you could please guide me
[18:33] <DeonP> oh did i have trouble on 12.04's wifi, one of the updates broke it, had to start network manager manually for a long time
[18:33] <Guest11837> actually my network adapter is broadcom 4313
[18:34] <Guest11837> and additional driver for the same are blacklisted in the blacklist.conf file
[18:34] <Guest11837> after trying all the way round, i am not able to either make it running or replace it with something suitable
[18:36] <Guest11837> can someone help me please ?
[18:37] <DeonP> dont u have to load firmware for broadcom cards
[18:37] <Guest11837> which one is that?
[18:37] <Guest11837> Ndiswrapper ?
[18:37] <daftykins> Guest11837: ah 4313, ok hang on
[18:37] <daftykins> Guest11837: are you fully updated and dist-upgrade 'd ?
[18:37] <Guest11837> sure sir
[18:37] <bekks> Guest11837: No. Firmware. ndiswrapper is a crappy, ancient framework for loading windows drivers.
[18:38] <Guest11837> oh
[18:38] <daftykins> Guest11837: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880
[18:38] <daftykins> check out the two commands in post #2
[18:39] <daftykins> if you have a wired connection you can use to perform them, that'd be ace
[18:39] <daftykins> i'll be back very shortly
[18:39] <DeonP> i hated ndiswrapper, used it on 8.xx was a pain
[18:39] <Guest11837> :) sure sir, i'll try
[18:41] <ElTimo> Hey. I'm getting no sound on an Asus X202E running 13.04. Any ideas?
[18:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Is there a command (or switch) I can use to force GRUB to NOT detect a certain disk or partition?
[18:44] <game_over> türk yokmu la
[18:45] <DeonP> looks like i'm on my own with xl2tpd .
[18:49] <SteamPlayer> I've installed Steam on Ubuntu 13.04 (info: http://pastebin.com/CFnidzG3), but I cannot run any games due to an OpenGL error. Something along the lines of 'could not find opengl entry point'. I have installed the latest non-beta drivers for my GPU, but they don't appear to help.
[18:50] <SteamPlayer> A friend says it may be the fact that my computer is still using the open source driver, rather than the proprietary driver
[18:50] <pyrex> SteamPlayer try adding the open source module to the driver blacklist
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> !tu | game_over
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> !tr | game_over
[18:51] <pyrex> though make sure the other driver works otherise you wont have video.
[18:51] <Konata> Also check: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/882966056488160497/
[18:51] <SteamPlayer> pyrex, I'm new to Linux, and have no idea how to do that, or what that even is
[18:51] <Konata> there's a huge discussion on this here
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> [ATT 2: 10 minute wait] Is there a command (or switch) I can use to force GRUB to NOT detect a certain disk or partition?
[18:52] <sumthummy> hello all, 12.04 LTS user here
[18:52] <SteamPlayer> That discussion is based on NVIDIA, while I have an AMD graphics card
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  why are you needing to do that?
[18:52] <sumthummy> with a wubi install
[18:52] <pyrex> what ati card do you have?
[18:53] <SteamPlayer> ATI RADEON HD 5570
[18:53] <SteamPlayer> I installed the latest driver from here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> SteamPlayer:  the addational-drivers tool/tab or the ati control center should tell you what driver you are using
[18:54] <SteamPlayer> Where can I access that, Dr_Willis?
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: Particularly because I have an external HDD that I'd like to install Ubuntu onto, and if I install GRUB to the external HDD (to run it independently) it will detect Windows 8 on the main computer itself, which I don't want. (Don't confuse this with a LiveCD install to USB.)
[18:54] <sumthummy> I'd like some help with recovering access to my primary user account
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: s/LiveCD/Live iamge
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> *image
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  thats easy. :) edit the /etc/grub.d/ os prober script (or make it not executable) and it shouldent probe for windows, thus not add a windows entry to the grub menu. (i belive)
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: So just [ sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/XX_os-prober ], where XX is the number (usually 30)?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis>  /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober      is what scans and adds the other os's to the grub menus
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  i think so.
[18:56] <SteamPlayer> How do I access the additional drivers tool/tab?
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: All right, I'll give it a shot
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: Thx
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> SteamPlayer:  its  the last tab in the 'software sources' tool. i belive. they keep moveing it depending on the ubuntu release
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> SteamPlayer:  run   software-properties-gtk
[18:57] <game_over> türk yokmu la
[18:58] <SteamPlayer> Dr_Willis, 'Continue using a manually installed driver' is ticked, and below that, it says 'No proprietary drivers are in use'
[18:58] <SteamPlayer> The whole section is greyed out
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> SteamPlayer:  that could be  because you used the .run drivers from the ati site I guess. I never use those.
[19:00] <SteamPlayer> Where should I get the drivers from instead?
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> see what the amd control panel tool says
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> I jsut use the repo drivers
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> but i have exactly one, old ati machine left.
[19:00] <SteamPlayer> Is there a tutorial on how to install them for AMD?
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> on a new clean install. You would use that addational-drivers tab/tool and just check them to have them installed. but those will NOT be the 'latest' drivers
[19:00] <daftykins> !ati
[19:01] <game_over> türk yokmu la
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> useing the .run drivers from ati puts it all in your hands basically.
[19:01] <greg_> hey! could someone check my common-auth file? thx http://pastebin.com/dPRyHU1E
[19:02] <SteamPlayer> Is it possible to uninstall the .run drivers and then use the additional drivers dialog?
[19:03] <Fuchs> SteamPlayer: yes. In case of nvidia:   ./NVIDIA-Linux-somethingsomething.run --uninstall
[19:03] <Fuchs> sudo, probably
[19:04] <Guest49267> hello, i am really thankful to you sir :) and ur friends who just helped me in solving the issue of connectivity over wifi for my net adapter broadcom 4313
[19:04] <Guest49267> earlier guest 34117
[19:04] <Guest49267> thank u sir :) and friends , ur two commands worked out
[19:04] <Guest49267> ^_^
[19:04] <sumthummy> hey greg, I looked over it but am not sure what we are checking for
[19:05] <WarlockLord> hey folks, looking for some help here. have a triple boot scenario on my macbook, osx win8 and ubuntu, osx and win8 boot fine, but when i try to boot linux it tells me no boot device found
[19:06] <sumthummy> looking for help regarding recovering/resetting a user account pw from admin account
[19:06] <ikonia> sumthummy: passwd $username
[19:06] <sumthummy> does it matter which directory i run the command in?
[19:07] <ikonia> sumthummy: nope
[19:08] <greg_> sumthummy: hey - thx. the thing is i want that the samba shares are using ad users. but locally (via console, ssh) only unix users should be able to login
[19:08] <greg_> but now it is neither possible to login on samba via ad user nor login to ubuntu with local user
[19:09] <sumthummy> greg: over my head, really. i am having login issues of my own
[19:10] <sumthummy> ikonia: thanks. i ran the command, but it wants to change the pw of the account i am currently using
[19:10] <ikonia> sumthummy: what command did you run
[19:10] <ikonia> exactly
[19:10] <greg_> sumthummy: thx anyways
[19:11] <sumthummy> i want to regain access in to a user account that i've forgotten
[19:11] <ikonia> sumthummy: I didn't ask what you where doing - I asked what command you run exactly
[19:11] <kostkon> sumthummy, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[19:11] <ikonia> it's 1 command
[19:11] <ikonia> you don't need that link
[19:12] <sumthummy> ikonia: i ran 'passwd $barry' where i am sumthummy and barry is locked user account
[19:12] <ikonia> sumthummy: ok, so "sudo passwd barry"
[19:12] <ikonia> sumthummy: try that
[19:13] <indoome> hello
[19:13] <indoome> how can install Skype on my Ubuntu?
[19:13] <sumthummy> greg: you bet
[19:14] <sumthummy> ikonia: you, dear soul, are a good soul indeed
[19:14] <knoppix> hello there
[19:14] <bazhang> indoome, from the partner repo
[19:14] <bazhang> !partner | indoome
[19:14] <indoome> and what's is that ?
[19:14] <bazhang> indoome, see above
[19:14] <pyrex> has anyone tried installing ubuntu on the nexus 7 2013
[19:15] <bazhang> pyrex, #ubuntu-touch for that
[19:15] <sumthummy> thank you!
[19:15] <pyrex> bazhang cool thanks
[19:15] <knoppix> i just tried to this morning no kidding
[19:15] <pyrex> how did it go?
[19:15] <indoome> ok done
[19:15] <knoppix> no luck though
[19:15] <indoome> asked for password and provided it
[19:16] <pyrex> didnt boot?
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> indoome:  now you install the skype package.
[19:16] <knoppix> i hold on ill give you the details
[19:16] <indoome> what's the command ?
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> no idea. use the package manager tools to search for skype now. or read the guide above
[19:17] <bekks> indoome: The command is to read the article linked before :)
[19:17] <indoome> k =D
[19:17] <knoppix> pyrex im opening nextbook 7 to check, not nexus
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get update,  apt-cache search skype
[19:17] <indoome> used this command : sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[19:17] <loki_> Skype :(
[19:17] <pyrex> oh :(
[19:17] <indoome> I get : indoome@InDooMe-Ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[19:17] <indoome> dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[19:17] <indoome> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*];
[19:17] <indoome> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[19:17] <indoome> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[19:17] <indoome> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[19:17] <FloodBot1> indoome: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> indoome:  and where did that command come from?
[19:18] <indoome> from doing this
[19:18] <indoome> Users of 64-bit Ubuntu, should enable MultiArch if it isn't already enabled by running the command
[19:18] <knoppix> another minute or so
[19:18] <indoome> I use 64-bit Ubuntu
[19:18] <OerHeks> that would not be wise, just use the skype installer from softwarecenter
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> I thought it was allready enabled also.
[19:19] <knoppix> i first installed complete linux install
[19:19] <indoome> I couldn't enable it
[19:19] <pyrex> i was thinking of trying a chroot system first
[19:20] <pyrex> and then going for the full installation once I know most of it works
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/7498/how-do-i-install-skype
[19:20] <knoppix> the instructions were to download the 12.04 iso the vnc viewer app and the terminal app.  but couldnt get it to install the iso
[19:22] <knoppix> you may try the app "complete  linux installer" which may work for you pyrex because it has many different install options and you can download it on your android system
[19:22] <barbie> hey guys
[19:23] <barbie> having an issue with the wireless, anyone keen to help me?
[19:23] <pyrex> knoppix interesting app. i may just give that a go
[19:24] <deezed> barbie: what is your problem?
[19:24] <pyrex> only issue with it is that it uses vnc -- i plan to replace the android graphics layer with an x server
, 2 meteres away from it and disconnects
[19:25] <deezed> barbie: it has always been like that?
[19:25] <knoppix> yeah i dont blame you.  when you take the route of vnc they are always clunky and slow, if you can find an alternative I agree that it would be better
, no since i had updated to the latest one
[19:26] <pyrex> ive done it before with the nook color. so http://thomaspolasek.blogspot.ca/2012/04/arch-linux-lxde-w-xorg-mouse-keyboard_16.html
[19:26] <pyrex> but it was a bunch of work and it was just a chroot environment -- no a native installation.
, i mean ubuntu
[19:26] <revelrevol> hello, question here regarding migrating from a wubi installation to a full-on partition: how to do this without losing any userdata?
[19:27] <deezed> barbie: you mean the 13.04?
 indeed
[19:27] <knoppix> yeah from the reading i did this morning, I believe that is the route you will end up taking.  Remotely operating another system on your platform
[19:27] <revelrevol> 12.04 LTS here
[19:28] <deezed> I'm not sure if I understood your problem, but you can maybe try another network manager, like wicd
[19:28] <revelrevol> but that was cross conversation ;-)
[19:28] <bazhang> !wubi | revelrevol check this
[19:28] <pyrex> knoppix well it should be possible to use the same kernel as on the android device and just point it towards a new root partiton
[19:28] <pyrex> graphics may not work if the correct drivers arent there though -- damn androids custom video interface.
 isn't it by default there?
[19:29] <Rallias> What's the normal $PATH for uid=0 ?
[19:30] <ikonia> Rallias: depends on the distro
[19:30] <ikonia> Rallias: but normally contains bin, sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin
[19:30] <Rallias> ikonia, I asked in #ubuntu didn't I?
[19:30] <ikonia> Rallias: I don't know, I'm not looking in that channel
 how can i check it?
[19:30] <deezed> barbie: I'm not sure. I'm still running 12.04, but I had a problem sometime ago with the default network manager, which wasnt wicd. With wicd is much better
[19:31] <ikonia> Rallias: apologies, was looking at the wrong channel
[19:31] <Rallias> :P
[19:31] <revelrevol> bazhang: not sure how to check !wubi
[19:31] <ikonia> Rallias: uid=0 shouldn't be used, as the root account is locked
[19:31] <deezed> barbie: if you go to synaptics you can check if you have it or not
 thanks for help but i have already tried it
[19:31] <WarlockLord> hmmmmmm apparently Linux has to be installed on partition 3 or lower for grub to work and Win8 on the last partition
[19:31] <revelrevol> ubottu: checking the links now, thanks. I am 'inside' Win 7 Pro
[19:31] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide     revelrevol
[19:31] <deezed> barbie: and what did you figure out?
[19:32] <revelrevol> haha thanks bazhang
 heared some stuff about the password between the router nd my computer
[19:34] <pyrex> knoppix so it looks like the next ubuntu release 13.10 will use Mir -- which utlizes libhybris to interface with the graphics graphics system
[19:34] <pyrex> should make it much easier to get ubuntu /w graphics running on android devices
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> pyrex:  it will? i thought that got delayed.
[19:35] <OerHeks> first Xmir, then Mir
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> that seems like building a house befor you get the foundation done. ;)
[19:35] <pyrex> Dr_Willis i was reading it off the wikipedia. does xmir run ontop of mir?
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> pyrex:  its a compatabilty layer or somthing. lets you get x apps on mir i belive
[19:36] <knoppix> I have that version now pyrex.  i think its great.  the only drawback is that I mostly use the 12.04 updated version because google chrome does not work properly on the 13.04  they have some bugs and I really use that alot.  i installed the google chrome by hand and it still had problems.  you may want to keep 12.04 updated version until that bug is fixed
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> or was it mir apps on X.
[19:36] <OerHeks> That is just the goal, foundation or metal does not matter anymore
[19:36] <barbie> i need to ask somebody to check my computer
[19:37] <pyrex> knoppix thanks for the info. have you tried firefox, also does the terminal run well?
[19:38] <deezed> barbie: lol, I didnt get it. Maybe you should try a live cd with other linux distro to see if it's working properly first. Then you can see if its your computer or your configs
[19:38] <knoppix> didnt try firefox on 13.04 but the terminal is perfect everything works really well.  just the google chrome thing, but chromium works
[19:38] <pyrex> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/
[19:38] <pyrex> Dr_Willis so Xmir is X running on Mir
[19:38] <deezed> knoppix: anyway, chromium is almost the same thing, or better, right?
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> pyrex:  if you say so. i havent been keeping up wth  the mir news. I am on 13.10 right now. and  no mir installed at all as far as i can tell
 i know that i am on ubuntu for some time now
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> pyrex:  2nd paragraph here ->  http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/08/15/mir-update-and-testing-mir-in-ubuntu-13-10/
 it was good until i have pressed the ok to upgrade the button
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> 14.04 mir will be the default. :) it seems.
[19:40] <barbie> i know how to check the version of the ubuntu i am now
[19:40] <bekks> barbie: Run "lsb_release -a" in a terminal
 sorry?
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> !version
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> open a terminal window.. type in the command..
[19:42] <deezed> barbie:  how did you do the upgrade?
No LSB modules are available.
[19:42] <barbie> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[19:42] <barbie> Description:	Ubuntu 13.04
[19:42] <barbie> Release:	13.04
[19:42] <FloodBot1> barbie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> so... reading your output.. you can conclude  you are on... err.. 13.04
[19:43] <deezed> Dr_Willis: lol
[19:43]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket.
 it asked me, and have pressed ok
[19:44] <barbie> what does FloodBot1 want from me?
[19:44] <deezed> barbie: can you try to upgrade again?
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  wants you to stop flooding the channel with useless lines
[19:44] <barbie> deezed i will try it
 whaat did i do wrong?
[19:45] <deezed> barbie: maybe with the normal 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> pasted 4 lines of useless info.. to answer your own question
[19:46] <barbie> deezed, it asks me to upgrade the firefox only
[19:46] <barbie> i did it
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> barbie: if the apt commands above givbe a lot of errors/info you may want to pastebin the output to some pastebin site. then give the url here. for us to look at.
[19:47] <barbie> Dr_Willis sir, do not know what a pastebin site means
[19:47] <deezed> Dr_Willis: I'm not sure, but I have the feeling that when we accept those messages to upgrade we can do something wrong, or not upgrade everything we need. is it true?
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin | barbie
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> deezed:  im not even sure what the original problem is or was
[19:48] <deezed> Dr_Willis: true
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  so you are on 13.04 - and the problem is what exactly?
[19:49] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key
[19:49] <jammieisftw> http://cyberforums.net/index.php << CYBERFORUMS FTW
[19:49] <jammieisftw> http://cyberforums.net/index.php << CYBERFORUMS FTW
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> yea. spamming a forum in  here makes me want to go there.. *sigh*
[19:50] <barbie_> -UX31E:~$ !pastebin
[19:50] <barbie__> i was disconnected again!!!!
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> we saw that barbie__
[19:50] <barbie__> any help sir?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  so you are on 13.04 - and the problem is what exactly?
[19:51] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key with enigmail and thunderbird.
[19:51] <barbie__> wireless drops out on 2 meters away
[19:52] <barbie__> from the router of course
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> id say determine your exact wifi chipset/card and check the forums and bug reports  and askubuntu.com to see if anyone else has reported a similer issue.
[19:52] <barbie__> did it sir willis, otherwise i woulldn't come here
[19:53] <barbie__> tried everything, i need some bright, out of the box thinking minds
[19:53] <w30> barbie__, sounds like competition from another radio wave producing device; microwave? small nuclear detination?
[19:54] <marian_> how can I open epub files?
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> marian_:  calibre can convert them i belive - if you cant find somthing to directly read them
[19:54] <barbie__> yes sir, some keep me on ubuntu one
[19:54] <riqdiiz> Dr_Willis: hello
[19:54] <barbie__> love it, but i need some friends here
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB#Software_reading_systems
[19:55] <OerHeks> marian_, i use calibre for all ebooks
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> Calibre 1.0 was just released this week (or last week) ;) or somthing.
[19:55] <barbie__> the funny thing is that everyone is going to help, but when it comes to some serios
[19:56] <barbie__> serious stuff everyone is out
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  if its a external interfearance source. theres not a lot we can do about it.
[19:56] <marian_> sudo apt-get install calibre
[19:56] <marian_> right?
[19:56] <marian_> my son install this machine but he is not here
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> if its an internal driver/bug/kernel issue barbie__  then a 13.10 live cd MIGHT have updated drivers that may remove the issue. (worth testing)
[19:56] <deezed> barbie__: why do you think it is more serious than the others problems?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> !info calibre
[19:56] <thisismynick> IRC client suggestion, anyone?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> marian_:  yep
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> thisismynick:  weechat
[19:57] <thisismynick> thanks
[19:57] <Obi1> what was the command for DVD region1 sudo apt-get install dvd read  something?
 it is a fiber opthics, which worked ok until the 13th of ubuntu
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  that statement makes no sence.. if your Wireless btween the router and the pc is having issues.. the fact you got fiber to the router.. dosent matter.
 could be but couldn't solve it till now
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> someone or somthing in the area MAY be causing interfearance. you can change the  channels and other wifi settings. and scan the area and see if theres other sources
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> ive had wifi cards that got disconnected every time my Home phone rang.. ;)
 no way, help others if you cannot help me, no problem
[19:59] <marian_> installed callibre but epub open in archive manager
 i have a great connection between my wifi and my pc while on 1 meter away, otherwise it sucks
[20:00] <Dr_Willis> marian_:  run calibre and import the book to your library
[20:00] <Dr_Willis> calibre is not 'just' an ebook reader. ;)
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  which points to some external infearance, or a very weird driver/kernel bug.
[20:01] <loki_> Dr_Willis: what other functionality does it have?
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  anything you want done with e-books it can do. ;)
[20:01] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key with enigmail and Thunderbird.
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/e-book-management-app-calibre-10.html
[20:01] <loki_> it's awesome, I know :D
[20:01] <w30> barbie__, maybe play like a scientist and eliminate possibilities by changing one variable at a time. Try different computer, then different operating system (live cd) etc.
[20:02] <deezed> w30: exactly
[20:02] <loki_> mojtaba: if your hdd is encrypted, downloaded emails will be encrypted locally.  assuming that you are downloading them all locally and they aren't stored on a server somewhere
[20:02] <barbie__> <Dr_Willis thank you, i do not know, havin an cisco wireless, all the computers on windows wave a great connection, not me, not me only
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  it has a new feture to polish/clean up the formating and other stuff in some formats now a days
[20:02] <loki_> Dr_Willis: I think I used it for converting files in the past
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:   if you think its a driver/kernel bug. then try 13.10 and see if the problem goes away. if so then you have sort of proven its a kernel/driver issue
[20:03] <mojtaba> loki_: I am using IMAP and I would like to have all of my emails encrypted on the server.
[20:03] <deezed> barbie__: plese barbie, can you try a live cd to check if it is a new problem of your computer or from you OS
[20:03] <barbie__> w30 all the windows ones are good, and i had it perfect beforee the last ubuntu
[20:04] <riqdiiz> where might I have gone wrong here ?  http://imgur.com/xzlg55G
[20:04] <Sach> Using a 32-bit laptop with ubuntu 12.04. Struggling to play .mts files because they are choppy in both vlc and media player.  Any solution?
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> Sach:  convert them to some other format?  i cant recall ever seeing a '.mts' file befor
[20:04] <bray90820> I can't seem to get a ubuntu usb live disk booted on my mac
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> i have reencoded videos int he past so they play better on my netbook.
[20:05] <barbie__> i had it perfect before that, and i even have upgraded to the lastest kernel, well, not me, but a friend of mine, so i am on the latest kernel, ubuntu 13.04, ad it sucks
[20:05] <riqdiiz> that is the output of this http://imgur.com/tfaZOTg
[20:05] <loki_> mts files are typically output from video cameras
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  earlier kernels can be selected from the GRUB menu - if you think an earlier kernel may work. Somthing else to try
[20:05] <riqdiiz> please help guys. :-(
[20:05] <loki_> bray90820: that is probably due to the BIOS
[20:06] <loki_> barbie__: that is subjective
[20:06] <bray90820> I downloaded "ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso"
[20:06] <loki_> Sach: what are the specs of your system?
[20:06] <loki_> Dr_Willis: think of MTS files like RAW files, but for video
[20:07] <loki_> bray90820: never heard of or seen that ISO
[20:07] <loki_> where did you DL from?
, already did so..nothing
 what do you mean?
[20:08] <bray90820> loki_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[20:08] <loki_> barbie__: saying the latest version sucks is subjective.  most likely the issue is not with the OS
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  sounds to me like you need to write up the problem. and what tests you have done, and post it to askubuntu.com  being as detailed as possible,
[20:08] <Sach> loki_: is there a command I can use to produce these details?
, of course it sucks for me only, sorry
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  i would test with 13.10 live cd and see if that also has the issue
[20:09] <loki_> barbie__: that's not true either
[20:09] <loki_> what is the exact problem?
[20:09] <loki_> bray90820: checking
[20:09] <loki_> Sach: you don't know how much RAM you have or what kind of CPU you have?
[20:09] <deezed> barbie__: why you cant just try the live cd?
 doing that since ubuntu 7, nothing helps..for me at least
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  doing what? You have had this issue now for over 7 years?
[20:10] <Sach> loki_:  Intel® Celeron(R) M CPU 520 @ 1.60GHz
 just read above
[20:10] <barbie__> Dr_Willis i meant that i tried id
[20:10] <loki_> Sach: that is most likely your problem.  MTS files are typically output by video cameras.  they are an uncompressed format and in this day in age are most likely HD video.  that said, your CPU is having a hard time keeping up
[20:11] <loki_> bray90820: this is pretty interesting.  give me some more time
[20:11] <w30> barbie__, if you own the other windows computers, try switching radios (wireless cards) with you windows box
[20:11] <Sach> loki_: yes, this seems to be true.  So the only solution is to either buy a new laptop or convert the files?  :-p
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  you need to be a bit more verbose in what you are saying.  I dont know what you have tried. You keep comming up with more and more info,,time to write up everything you have done.
[20:11] <loki_> Sach: most likely.
[20:11] <loki_> bray90820: did you read this "Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. This image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems."?
[20:12] <loki_> what processor does your machine have?
[20:12] <Sach> loki_: can you suggest a format to convert to that will diminish video quality least?
[20:12] <bray90820> so for a xeon based mac i would use the normal version
[20:12] <bray90820> loki_:
[20:12] <loki_> Sach: that is hard.  it's not the format so much as it's the video quality
[20:13] <loki_> bray90820: so you are doing this on a mac pro?
[20:13] <bray90820> yes
[20:13] <loki_> For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.
[20:14] <loki_> I would use the standard image
[20:14] <loki_> see if that works bray90820
, no problem, i have an asus ux31e laptop, had the previous ubuntu, i mean the 12.04, had the same issues in the beginning but being honest i do not know how were they solved, so i have upgraded to the new 13th  ubuntu and i cannot work being further that 1 meter or 2 away from the router, can you somehow help me sir?
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  and you have determined your exact wireless chipset?
[20:15] <loki_> barbie__: do any other clients have issues with wireless?
[20:16] <barbie__> Dr_Willis  it is atheros, but if you can help me to determine it
[20:16] <loki_> barbie__: lspci -vnvn
[20:16] <barbie__> <loki no, my android phone gets it over 10 times further
[20:16] <bl4ckdu5t> I use my terminal as "myusername" or "root". How can I use it as www-data which is the owner I've set for my web pages in /var/www?
[20:17] <loki_> barbie__: have you tried a different wireless card?
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> bl4ckdu5t:  www-data is a special user that dosent really have a home, or should be used that way.
[20:17] <Bluesman> :)
[20:17] <barbie__> 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller [8086:0104] (rev 09)
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:1427]
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort+ <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Latency: 0
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[20:17] <FloodBot1> barbie__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <barbie__> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:1427]
[20:17] <daftykins> bl4ckdu5t: what are you *really* trying to do?
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  rember what we said earlier about PASTEBIN sites ? and how to use them?
[20:17] <loki_> barbie__: stop
[20:17] <loki_> use paste.ubuntu.com
[20:18] <daftykins> surprisingly guys, only one person needs to tell someone where they're going wrong ;)
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> !paste
[20:18] <Bluesman> hehe
[20:18] <loki_> daftykins: heh
[20:19] <bray90820> loki i will try the standard version tahnks
[20:19] <bl4ckdu5t> I discovered that most of my PHP files I moved as root from another drive to my /var/www are not working fine
[20:19] <loki_> bray90820: let me know how it goes
[20:19] <bray90820> ok
[20:19] <bl4ckdu5t> Now I'm trying to move them as www-data
[20:20] <bl4ckdu5t> since I had chown that folder for www-data
[20:20] <loki_> bl4ckdu5t: chown?
[20:22] <bl4ckdu5t> yea! when I initially set up my server, I tried to access pages on it but there was a permission restriction notice so I ran the command: chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www
[20:22] <bl4ckdu5t> and ever since, I've been able to view files I created on the server but not files I moved into it
[20:23] <zipper> How can I view groups? Is there a sudoers group?
[20:23] <barbie__> did it help?
[20:23] <zipper> Like there is a sudoers list?
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> via the group command or the /etc/group file
[20:26] <Extreminador> guys my grub has some options to somethings that does not exists atm
[20:27] <barbie__> thanks guys anyway, i appreciate your help, i will to find some answers anywhere else
[20:27] <Extreminador> it has 3 times "Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (12.04) (on /dev/sda6)
[20:27] <Extreminador> how can i take that out ?
[20:27] <barbie__> thanks guys anyway, i appreciate your help, i will try to find some answers anywhere else
[20:28] <loki_> barbie__: what do you mean?
[20:28] <loki_> we are trying to help you
[20:28] <loki_> I asked you a question and I don't think you answered it
[20:28] <barbie__> <loki, sorry maybe i have missed it
[20:29] <loki_> have you tried another wireless card in your laptop?
[20:29] <loki_> or
[20:29] <barbie__> yep
[20:29] <loki_> are you dual booting?
[20:29] <barbie__> all of the connections are extremely weak
[20:29] <loki_> barbie__: are you dual booting?
[20:29] <loki_> yes or no
[20:30] <barbie__> yes, but didn't boot on windows for years
[20:30] <loki_> ok.  does it work in windows?
[20:30] <loki_> or no?
[20:30] <barbie__> it works
[20:30] <loki_> check now
[20:31] <loki_> you just said you haven't booted in to windows for years
[20:31] <barbie__> except this trial thingie
[20:31] <loki_> what do you mean?
[20:31] <barbie__> i hate booting on it cuz it take years to update :)
[20:32] <barbie__> but i did try to boot on windows and the card works
[20:32] <loki_> try again.
[20:32] <barbie__> yes i am a sinner, sorry
[20:32] <barbie__> ok, will do
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> gave him a dozen tests to try.. and still looks for quick fixs
[20:35] <loki_> yep
[20:35] <zipper> How can I view groups? Is there a sudoers group?
[20:35] <zipper> Like there is a sudoers list?
[20:36] <loki_> I am a sudoer :P
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  theres the /etc/group file  you can look at
[20:36]  * Dr_Willis is a sudont-er
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> sudo group and i think it was the admin group in earlier releases
[20:40] <pagios> hi ll
[20:40] <pagios> linuxmint 13 is equivalent to ubuntu precise?
[20:41] <pagios> #68-Ubuntu  is what?
[20:41] <barbie> loki
[20:41] <zipper> In another question I tried -s bash while creating a user and got the reply invalid shell 'bash'
[20:41] <barbie> workss like a charm
[20:41] <zipper> How do I specify that I wanr
[20:41] <zipper> How do I specify that I want to use the bash shell?
[20:43] <loki_> yes barbie
[20:43] <loki_> and you tried a different card?
[20:44] <barbie> no card, restarterd on windows, WORKS NICE
[20:44] <barbie> sorry for caps
[20:44] <loki_> try a different card on the linux side and let us know how that goes
[20:45] <barbie> i mean, it is like, buy another computer which worked before
[20:45] <barbie> it sucks
[20:45] <barbie> honestly
[20:45] <corrosiv0> claro
[20:45] <zipper> -s /bin/bash
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> or it could be the windows drivers are switching to a differnt wirless channel. or it may be a driver/kernel bug
[20:46] <loki_> barbie: i am not telling you to buy another computer
[20:47] <loki_> I am saying try another card
[20:49] <barbie> thank you loki, but i mean i have baught a quite expensive laptop from sweden which worked with the previous windows and you are suggestin me to buy another card? sorry.. but this is funny
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> you can replace wifi cards in laptops.
[20:49] <barbie> not windows but linux i mean 12th one
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> i would test with a 13.10 live dvd - and see if that still has the same issue.
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> it may  be a known bug/major bug with that laptop/wifi chipset
[20:50] <JustAguy> 22:50 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu: Total of 1646 nicks Wow this is huge
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  not really.. its a slow day
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  seen 3000+ in here befor
[20:51] <barbie> <Dr_Willis are you talking to me sir?
[20:51] <Extreminador> lool JustAguy only 10 (or sow) say something
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  ive mentioned several timnes to you -to try the 13.10 live dvd
[20:52] <barbie> <Dr_Willis what is the diffrerence if i am using the lateest kernel?
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  you are NOT using the latest kernel that exists
[20:52] <JustAguy> Extreminador: welcome to IRC , not so many guys/girls talk in the channels, most are idlers
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> you are using the latest for your current release
[20:53] <barbie> gimme the code to check it please?  i might be wrong
[20:53] <OerHeks> barbie, check your Atheros on http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/Atheros some work just with wireless B not G/N
[20:54] <Extreminador> barbie this my sound stupid bu is the wireless card on ?
[20:54] <JustAguy> OerHeks: kom je paddenstoelen eten hihi
[20:54] <iananananan> is there a way to delete a file in a winrar archive?
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> iananananan:  rar tools exist on linux,  the winrar.exe works with wine last i used it
[20:55] <barbie> Extreminador how are you sir thinking i am talking with you on?
[20:55] <OerHeks> iananananan, no, not with the free rar tools, those only read
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[20:55] <iananananan> whoops i mean an iso
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> the 7zip command line tool has a rar plugin also i think
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> iananananan:  an ISO? thats totally differnt. ;)
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> answer is No as far as i know.
[20:56] <JustAguy> does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does his job well on ubuntu? Because I heard from other guys that it failed every time they attempted it
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> unles you remaster the iso - i think thats how some tools like kiso did it
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> !info kiso
[20:56] <iananananan> so i'd probably have to extract and remake the iso, then
[20:56] <Extreminador> barbie well you could be using rj45 and not wireless
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  i use that command daily on 13.10 and have no issues
[20:57] <cali123456> ciao
[20:57] <JustAguy> k, then i'm going to upgrade my irssi/ftp/moviewatching server to 13.10 \o/
[20:57] <cali123456> !list
 <OerHeks> what should i choose next?
 indeed
[20:58] <barbie> i have seen this rj lots of times
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  dist-upgrade does NOT NOT NOT - upgrade to the next release on ubuntu
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  thats what  'do-release-upgrade' does
 what should i do?
[20:59] <Extreminador> barbie just wondering if it was on... i knolgement in linux is not allot... still new to this thing
[21:00] <cali123456> ciao
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> no lists here ;)
[21:00] <Extreminador> barbie have you trie to google for you card to see if someone else have the same issue ?
[21:01] <Extreminador> i am sure you are not the only one with that wireless card
[21:01] <cali123456> no lists here ;)
[21:01] <Extreminador> amd almost for sure that many of them are using linux
[21:01] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key with enigmail and Thunderbird. I am using IMAP and I would like to have all of my emails encrypted on the server.
[21:01] <Extreminador> guys i would like to unit my 59GB space partition with the 142GB partition... is this possible ?
[21:01] <Extreminador> check this iamge please http://postimg.org/image/e5yxx03lx/
[21:01] <Extreminador> *image
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  unit? You mean merge 2 partitions?
 sir it is on, talking to you now, googled it and some brave guys tried to help me and nothing, dissapointed
[21:02] <Extreminador> Dr_Willis yes... but in my case i have in middle a ntfs partition
[21:02] <JustAguy> Dr_Willis: i'm getting Checking for a new Ubuntu releaseNo new release found when doing sudo do-release-upgrade on ubuntu 12.04
[21:02] <Extreminador> sow i would have to move the dta beetween
[21:02] <MACscr> anyone know if the minimal iso will be able to be booted as a live cd?
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  you  want to keep the data on both partions? You will have to move the data to one partion, then remove.resize the other
[21:02] <JustAguy> SubCool , stop running your irc as root!
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  then resize/move the partions around.. backing up one and restoreing it would be easier
[21:03] <Extreminador> Dr_Willis if i am not mistaked for any reazon when i installed ubuntu he use the 59 GB... sow i think the grub is on that one
[21:03] <aztecwarrior> Does anyone know why my zpool iostat looks like this? http://pastebin.com/gpApGknB
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  why do you need to merge them?
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> 59gb for / is a decent size for most people
[21:04] <Extreminador> Dr_Willis well i like to be organized and to have some control if i need more space
[21:04] <Extreminador> or if betther make the 142 gb partition the one that holds linux
[21:04] <Extreminador> not the 59gb one
[21:05] <barbie> Dr_Willis did i not answer to some of your questions? sorry
[21:05] <alfonsojon> Hi
[21:05] <alfonsojon> I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 and I decided to test out Mir.
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> alfonsojon:  13.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[21:06] <alfonsojon> oh alright
[21:06] <alfonsojon> Thanks.
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  my last suggstion was to try the 13.10 live dvd to see if the problem affects 13.10 - if it does - definatly file a bug report on it.
[21:07] <JustAguy> what is recommended, doing command to upgrade from 12.04 , or just reinstall the OS
[21:08] <JustAguy> *from 12.04 to 13.10
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  13.10 is in testing.. may as well just upgrade
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> and test that part out. ;)
[21:08] <JustAguy> will do 13.04 for now :p
[21:08] <barbie> Dr_Willis thanks sir but.. again, tried it, the same thing..
[21:09] <flipper88_fl> When is the next LTS releaase due out?
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  you have downloaded a 13.10 live dvd? and allready tried it? that was fast
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  you upgrade from LTS to LTS, or you do each non lts release. so 12.04 to 13.10 will take 2 seperate upgrades
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> it would be faster to do a clean install i imagine
[21:10] <JustAguy> is 13.04 LTS too?
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> 12.04 is LTS.
[21:10] <JustAguy> i know what lts is ;p
[21:10] <barbie> common, i did it, the same thing like it was before
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> 14.04 will be LTS also i belive
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  but you dont seem to know what it means. ;)
[21:11] <barbie> should i restart or something?
[21:11] <JustAguy> yes, i could tell the same thing as ubottu said out of my head :p
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> every 2 years.
[21:11] <Extreminador> Dr_Willis i did never undrstood that LTS thing... i mean support on what ? on drivers/upgrades/updates on stuff ?
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  a core set of packages for security updates  and major bug fixs mainly - i guess you can say
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> stuff a business/server would be interested in
[21:12] <JustAguy> I have a brilliant pc for movie watching / ftp backup server / irssi
[21:13] <Extreminador> sow does 3 and 5 years are not since the user install the distro but it will be since that version was created correct ?
[21:15] <barbie> ok, so, i have got the latest kernel and the latest drivers as far as i think, and i am suggested to try the new ubuntu , anyway, my kernel is more too further than the latest ubuntu is, but no matter what, i just want to be advised on how to deal with my wireless..and no use
[21:15] <barbie> screw it!
[21:15] <JustAguy> barbie: give me what wireless card you have
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  most of that last paragraph made little sence.
[21:15] <kostkon> Extreminador, and 2 years hardware support, meaning new or updated drivers, etc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:15] <JustAguy> do lspci for me barbie
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> You are using 13.04 and the latest kernel for it?
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> did you or did you NOT try the 13.10 live dvd barbie ?
[21:16] <Extreminador> thanks kostkon and Dr_Willis
[21:16] <barbie> thank you everyone, i am sick to give the lsi do not why again and again
[21:17] <SubCool> JustAguy, im not running as root.. lol
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  because new people come in and exit constantly
[21:17] <barbie> i see
[21:17] <barbie> just give a command please
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  you were asked to make a pastebin site with the  info on it earlier, and with all the stuff you have tried
[21:17] <JustAguy> SubCool: then throw away that root thing in your hostname, it's stupid :p
[21:17] <barbie> i did
[21:17] <SubCool> JustAguy, what made you think i was?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> then repost the pastebin url if you have it
[21:18] <kostkon> barbie, the scrolling speed on this channel is crazy fast so yeah better repost your info
[21:18] <SubCool> hhmmm
[21:18] <SubCool> JustAguy, where did you get that information?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> it was also suggested you make an askubuntu.com question/posting/search to see if others have had the same issue
[21:18] <Bray90820> loki_: using the offical ISO worked
[21:19] <loki_> Bray90820: nice!
[21:19] <darksouls> fuck arsholes
[21:19] <darksouls> you waste your tiny little arse on this
[21:19] <SubCool> JustAguy, ive never been a irc guru, its a chat ot me.
[21:19] <fonzon> I installed ubuntu from my usb, everything went fine, but how can i make my usb normal again?
[21:19] <kostkon> !ops | darksouls
[21:19] <JustAguy> SubCool: 23:02 -!- SubCool [~root@pool-173-50-175-11.pghkny.fios.verizon.net] has joined
[21:20] <SubCool> JustAguy, oh yea..
[21:20] <Myrtti> darksouls: thanks for your opinion, did you have a support issue you need help with?
[21:20] <JustAguy> fonzon: click dash and then write disk utility and then select your usb and format it
[21:20] <barbie> give me link please
[21:20] <darksouls> the brain hole
[21:20] <intok> Why do none of the CD database lookups in ANY program work? using CDDB, FreeDB, Last.FM and Music Brainz in Asunder, Amarok, Banshee, Audex, Clementine, RipperX, RipOff, Picard etc. none of it gets anything at all...
[21:20] <loki_> Dr_Willis: not ubuntu related, but are you very familiar with OSX?
[21:20] <barbie> give me the link to post the thingss please
 , but it get this "Error deleting partition /dev/sdc1: Command-line `parted --script "/dev/sdc" "rm 1"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Error: Partition doesn't exist.  (udisks-error-quark, 0)"
[21:21] <kostkon> intok, that's weird
[21:21] <kostkon> !paste | barbie
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  i stay as far away from apple as i can
[21:22] <loki_> darn
[21:22] <JustAguy> well fonzon i'm not familia with that error :oo
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  i give everyone at work the same advice also. ;)
[21:22] <loki_> haha was more a question related to VNC stuff, but I am picking up what you are putting down
[21:22] <barbie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6052875/
[21:22] <barbie> here it is
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  cant say ive used vnc on OS-X.
[21:23] <loki_> k.  thanks anyway :)
 after trying to format i get thisError synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[21:23] <fonzon> have i just lost my new usb? :/
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  and your laptop was a?
[21:23] <barbie> and now... for the third time of just getting dissapeared, ubuntu channel wins!!!
[21:24] <barbie> asus ux31e
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> wonder if thats similer to a  ASUS K53E   http://askubuntu.com/questions/121487/atheros-ar9485-wireless-card-doesnt-work-in-an-asus-k53e
[21:24] <barbie> let me check
 nope
 it did work sometime before, but not now
[21:25] <intok> kostkon especially since the CD data on MusicBrainz site just fine
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  huh? earlier you said you have had this short-range disconnect for  like the last 2 years...
 yep, and if you look above, i have sorted it somehow
[21:26] <kostkon> intok, run one of those apps in debug mode if possible, or at least start them from the terminal and see if youll get any error messages.
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/224889/how-do-i-avoid-random-wireless-lan-disconnects    looks like it has some good troubleshooting info
 lets make a constructive work, you help me and i help you and the others? will it work?
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  i have no idea whats going on with your card. If you really want to  get a lot of people to look at . Post the question at askubuntu.com and give the full info like the other example posts i have shown (the last one  has a lot of good info)
[21:29] <alnr> is there a command line version of update-manager. i want to upgrade 12.04 to next release or so
 ohhhh, i did it for lots of times
[21:29] <barbie> sorry to bother you
[21:29] <alnr> (on a server vps)
[21:29] <barbie> are you in ubuntu? if so, pleaseeeee help me
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> 'i did it for a lots of times'   --> is sort of a meaningless sentance to me.
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> alnr  try do-release-update
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> I research my wifi cards i buy - so i get ones that work out of the box with no hassles. I rarely have to right with wifi
[21:30] <barbie> sorry for that
[21:32] <barbie> just imagine, you buy a laptop which don't work on wireless, then it works on 12th, and the id doesn't neither on 13.4 nor later?
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=ux31e     first hit - someone with an identical problem it seems
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> there have been major kernel changes in the differnt releases.    so its not unexpected theres regressions with some drivers/hardware
[21:33] <JustAguy> my wifi was a pain in the ass too @ laptop
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> I bought wifi that 'works out of the box'  ;)
[21:34] <alnr> when i do do-release-update on my 12.04 server it says no new release found. is that correct?
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> alnr:  because its LTS it will ONLY go to the next LTS
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> unless you tell it otherwise alnr
[21:34] <JustAguy> googled for 24 hours, found lots of the same guys like me but unanswered questions, then i found one page telling me what to do
[21:34] <sere> anyone know why synaptic would be asking for two passwords and only needs the first to work
[21:35] <alnr> Dr_Willis: can i force it to 12.10 or 13.04 or so?
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107598/how-do-i-get-wireless-to-work-on-a-asus-zenbook-ux31e   has some good info also
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> alnr:  yes.
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> do-release-upgrade -some-option-i-cant-remeber
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> ;P
 sir, the comment i have found useful was written in  2010, lets make it clear, i work for a worlds leader in searches, i need a programmers/hackers help. would you be so kind to help me please?
[21:36] <daftykins> ^lmao
[21:37] <daftykins> sounds like a 419-er
[21:39] <SubCool> JustAguy, im not seeing how or why the IRC is showing me as root
[21:39] <JustAguy> you probably did sudo irssi when you started irssi
[21:39] <barbie> just screw it
[21:40] <kostkon> !patience | barbie
[21:40] <SubCool> JustAguy, i just use Xchat
[21:40] <JustAguy> lol
[21:41] <JustAguy> SubCool: do /set in your irc and look for any variables setted as root
[21:42] <Zmax> hello?
[21:42] <exidos> hi Zmax
[21:42] <JustAguy> hello Zmax
[21:42] <SubCool> JustAguy, yeah... username and real name
[21:43] <JustAguy> :p
[21:43] <alnr> i installed update-manager on a server, (dragging in few hundred M's of stuff i dont need since update-manager is gtk). is there some automated way to remove all those packages
[21:43] <SubCool> is there any real reason for that?
[21:43] <SubCool> perk?
[21:44] <Zmax> hey just checking things out. how's everyone?
[21:44] <JustAguy> good
[21:44] <nevi> Hi there! Im trying to exclude hidden directories when using mintbackup but they are not shown up, and I can't find any info about this issue. Anyone knos how to?
[21:44] <iceroot_> !mint | nevi
[21:45] <Jordan_U> SubCool: Just to completely confirm, please type "/exec -o whoami", which should post to the channel the user that xchat is running as.
[21:46] <barbie> http://forums.linuxmint.com/
[21:46] <slidercrank> hi there. I booted from Ubuntu Live CD (5.04). For some reason it doesn't see my hdd. (no /dev/[sh]d* devices. How can I force it to rescan the presence of HDDs. BIOS detected it successfully
[21:46] <SubCool> subcool
[21:46] <usr13> slidercrank: Get a newer version.
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> slidercrank:  was 5.04 a typo? i hope?
 5.04?
[21:47] <Jordan_U> SubCool: Great. It is odd that root somehow got in there in the first place then.
[21:47] <slidercrank> no, 5.04
[21:47] <usr13> slidercrank: Get a newer version.
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> slidercrank:  good luck.
[21:47] <slidercrank> yes, that old version. the only I have
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> 8+ yr old releases ;)
[21:47] <SubCool> Thanks JustAguy Jordan_U - i live in abnormalities
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> im suprised the disk is even readable being that old
 i have a computer in y basement(10 years old) maybe it will help
[21:49] <usr13> slidercrank: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[21:49] <WebbyIT> there is an mail provider that respect the privacy?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> WebbyIT: That's offtopic for #ubuntu. Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:50] <WebbyIT> thnx Jordan_U
 there is an mail provider that respect the privacy?            forget it, everyone, everywhere i reading you
[21:50] <Jordan_U> WebbyIT: You're welcome.
[21:51] <slidercrank> usr13, it's all problematic. My computer can't boot off usb flash drive.  can't boot off dvd. But cd-drive is okay. so I can't burn your image.
[21:51] <slidercrank> usr13, and I need to access my hdd by any means
[21:51] <usr13> slidercrank: Ok. So what are you trying to do?
[21:52] <usr13> slidercrank: Bring up a terminal window and type   sudo fdisk -l
[21:52] <slidercrank> usr13, not sure. to see how I can force the system to detect my hdd. Or maybe I'll try to find another image. I have a bag of CDs.
[21:52] <slidercrank> usr13, it doesn't see anything but the cd-drive I used to boot from
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> something thats not 10 yrs old. ;)
[21:53] <usr13> slidercrank: What type of HDD is it?
[21:53] <slidercrank> usr13, an ordinary 80GB HDD. Seagate
[21:53] <slidercrank> IDE
[21:53] <usr13> slidercrank: Bring up a terminal window and type   sudo fdisk -l
[21:53] <Jordan_U> slidercrank: Please list all of the resources that you have available. Is this a Desktop or laptop machine?
[21:53] <slidercrank> jordan, desktop.
 Thank you, http://forums.linuxmint.com/  helped a lot. after all It was eassy  :-D
[21:54] <SubCool> Ok- so here is something thats been buging me. - My Router is crappy and wont let me assing ip's. I've been trying to change my computers hostname so that i can refer to them as names instead of IP addresses. but- when i edit the hostname file, it doesnt work.
[21:54] <slidercrank> usr13, fdisk -l  returns nothing. I already tried that
[21:54] <Jordan_U> slidercrank: Do you have any other computers available?
[21:54] <slidercrank> there is only /dev/hdc (which is the cd-drive)
[21:54] <usr13> slidercrank: sudo fdisk -l
[21:54] <zykotick9> slidercrank: are you using "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:55] <usr13> slidercrank: What are you trying to do to it?  (What is your end goal?)
[21:55] <slidercrank> Jordan_U, yes, a netbook and another desktop which doesn't support IDE.
[21:55] <slidercrank> zykotick9, absolutely
[21:55] <Jordan_U> slidercrank: Can the other desktop burn CDs?
[21:56] <slidercrank> Jordan_U, no, I have only IDE CD and DVD drives. My desktop computer doesn't have an IDE controller
[21:56] <Shakaz> windows 8 screwed over on me. not booting so i'm looking to have some sort of OS.
[21:56] <Shakaz> Ubuntu 12.04 or Ubuntu 13.04?
[21:57] <usr13> slidercrank: Will it boot to a USB device?
 np, just trying to do my best
[21:58] <slidercrank> usr13, my new computer (which is without IDE) can boot from a usb device.. The computer I'm using to retrieve data from IDE discs can't
[21:58] <Jordan_U> Shakaz: Do you want the latest software, but upgrading about every 6 months, or do you want older software but only needing to upgrade about once every 2 years?
[21:58] <Shakaz> what does the latest software have that the older software doesn't?
[21:59] <barbie> let's make it fun, my usb ventilator is rotating 3500 per minute how many inches will it take?
[22:00] <SubCool> can not ssh into the computer using the hostname
[22:01] <Shakaz> Jordan_U*
[22:03] <barbie> if ventilator equals to 3500/60
[22:03] <barbie> then...
[22:03] <barbie> 1minute equals 60 secs
[22:03] <Jordan_U> barbie: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[22:04] <barbie> fatal error
[22:05] <equus> slidercrank,   sharing a bit of info     look at plop linux .you can create a CD  or boot floppy that will boot distros on a USB     personaly I have only had luck with it booting USBs created with unetbootin but others may work
[22:07] <barbie> Jordan_U what should i do if lo i love ubuntu and for months i cannot any idea for my issue?
[22:08] <barbie> Jordan_U what should i do if lo i love ubuntu and for months i cannot get any idea for my issue?
[22:10] <Jordan_U> barbie: Please join #ubuntu-ops.
[22:12] <slidercrank> hurray. I've found a relatively new (only one year old) live CDs of Gentoo and Debian.
[22:12] <slidercrank> -a
[22:12] <tacorwin_> Hello everyone. I would like to know the License status of http://www.ubuntu.com/ . For example, I would like to use the layout of the website for my own (http:wineonubuntu.cu.cc/)
[22:13] <NeoGeo64> Hey everyone.  I have a quick question...
[22:13] <NeonSpeed> Anybody know how I can fix my cursor in 13.04, it is the default cursor on the desktop but in the programs it is the DMZ-black cursor?
[22:14] <NeonSpeed> I want the DMZ-black cursor for everything
[22:14] <NeoGeo64> How do I activate my copy of Ubuntu 13.04 and make sure that its genuine?
[22:14] <NeonSpeed> NeoGeo64, You don't have to activate Ubuntu or any Linux distro
[22:14] <kostkon> NeoGeo64, ubuntu is license free so you don't need to do anything about that
[22:15] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, there are linux based OSes that cost money and/or come under some license
[22:16] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, True I meant distros like Ubuntu Fedora.... The avg daily used distro, I should have been more specific :/
[22:16] <tacorwin_> Can i freely use the ubuntu.com layout (html/css)?
[22:17] <NeoGeo64> kostkon: I dl'd 13.04 off TPB and I thought I would need a crack to activate it.  I've never used Linux before.  This works great... how can it be free?
[22:19] <kostkon> NeoGeo64, http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy
[22:19] <dougiel> NeoGeo64, it comes with a money back guarantee
[22:25] <NeonSpeed> They took a lot out of Compiz.
[22:26] <ab3e> Hi, is there a way to force applications to follow symlinks ?
[22:26] <Shakaz> what's the different apart from support with ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04?
[22:27] <Jordan_U> ab3e: What problem are you actually having? What is your end goal?
[22:28] <ab3e> Jordan_U: I want to have symlinks following for a application
[22:28] <Jordan_U> Shakaz: Ubuntu 12.04 has software that was relatively new in April of 2012, Ubuntu 13.04 has software that was relatively new in April of 2013
[22:28] <Jordan_U> ab3e: That's not an end goal.
[22:28] <Shakaz> what type of software is this?
[22:28] <ab3e> bittorent sync
[22:29] <ab3e> wouldn't this be a thing that the filesystem manages ?
[22:30] <Jordan_U> ab3e: It really depends on the context. *Please* state your end goal.
[22:30] <Shakaz> Jordan_U, sorry to bother you again, but what type of 'new software'
[22:31] <Jordan_U> Shakaz: Mostly the same software for each release of Ubuntu, but newer versions of that software.
[22:31] <ab3e> Jordan_U: I want to have the freedom to put my folders everywhere I want to and just put the symlinks to the share folder that btSync manages
[22:31] <kostkon> Shakaz, the software in the repositories, around ~40k pieces of softwrae
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> Shakaz  like in: bugs fixed, more options added etc
[22:32] <Jordan_U> ab3e: That should work for most cases. Are you running into a case where it doesn't?
[22:33] <ab3e> Jordan_U: yes, btSync just simply does not follow the symlinks because they dont support it at this point
[22:33] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key with enigmail and Thunderbird. I am using IMAP and I would like to have all of my emails encrypted on the server.
[22:33] <Shakaz> Jordan_U i've never used linux but couldn't you just do 'sudo apt-get update' and it would update all the software in the packages?
[22:33] <Shakaz> that you've installed
[22:34] <ab3e> Shakaz: it just updates the repos list ... you ned upgrade
[22:34] <Shakaz> therefore updating all the software in the respositores?
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> Shakaz:  updateing the system updates  them to whatever is in the repos.
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Shakaz: "sudo apt-get update" will update all pacakges to the latest version available in the repositories for the specific release of Ubunut you're using.
[22:34] <Shakaz> oh ok. so i may as well just get 13.04
[22:34]  * Shakaz goes to torrent it
[22:34] <Shakaz> legitly*
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> Shakaz:  13.10 is due out soon. ;)
[22:35] <spacecase> http://askubuntu.com/questions/340194/how-to-convert-a-bios-boot-to-efi-boot-13-04-on-macbook-8-2
[22:35] <Shakaz> ogreat
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> note the  version is the year/month of release
[22:35] <kostkon> Shakaz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[22:35] <high_fiver> what can we expect from 13.10 over 13.04
[22:35] <Shakaz> Dr_Willis can you upgrade manually inside ubuntu or do you hve to reinstall the iso and lose all of your data?
[22:36] <spacecase> high_fiver, newer kernel, newer packages, Mir (I believe)
[22:36] <Shakaz> or should i just create a /home partition following a tutorial when ubuntu is installed
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> Shakaz:  you can upgrade to the next RELEASE - yes
[22:37] <Shakaz> i'll probably end up dual booting with windows 7 as well.
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> a  /home/ partion is a very good idea
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> Shakaz  and backups
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> always backup. :)
[22:37] <Shakaz> i know i asked this yesterday but
[22:38] <Shakaz> if i have a 1TB HDD, and dual boot with windows 7, how much disk space should I leave for linux partition and windows 7 partition.
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> Shakaz:  depends on the work you are doing.
[22:38] <Shakaz> i'd probably use a bit of linux but mainly windows.
[22:38] <ab3e> so does someone know how I trick btSync into beliving that my symlinks are real folders ?
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> 30gb for linux can work. if you dont need a lot of space
[22:38] <Shakaz> hmm.
[22:41] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key with enigmail and Thunderbird. I am using IMAP and I would like to have all of my emails encrypted on the server.
[22:41] <JustAguy> ^
[22:41] <JustAguy> so leet :D
[22:42] <ab3e> mojtaba: I don't think so as long as you dont atually own the mailserver
[22:42] <NeonSpeed> Shakaz, I use 100gb for Ubuntu and that is plenty for me
[22:43] <JustAguy> lets be prepared for first schoolday tommorow, "What are you doing, how to get that layout on my windows 7" = Their reaction when they see ubuntu
[22:43] <Shakaz> how much do you use for your os NeonSpeed? (do you have a separate home partition)
[22:43] <mojtaba> ab3e: Cann't I encrypt them locally and because I am using IMAP, it would synchronize on the server?
[22:43] <Shakaz> JustAguy, lol. I remind going on a trip and one of the people had ubuntu loaded, i knew what it was but everyone looked at his computer and was like woah what is that.
[22:44]  * sepero uses 20GB partition for OS
[22:44] <JustAguy> xd
[22:45]  * sepero uses 20GB partition for OS, and it's only 42% filled
[22:45] <NeonSpeed> Shakaz, I use about 250gb for Windows, 100gb for Ubuntu and then I have another 100gb partition for backup (music, movies, and pics and stuff)
[22:45] <ab3e> mojtaba: as far as I know imap hase just one direction it gives you the data but you can't alter the content thats on the server
[22:45] <Shakaz> so would a 10GB OS Partition be enough?
[22:46] <mojtaba> ab3e: When I put something in draft locally or I send email, it syncs it on the server.
[22:46] <Shakaz> and then maybe a 140-190GB for ubuntu (or is that too much)?
[22:46] <sepero> Shakaz: If you're good at keeping old packages cleaned out, yes. Otherwise go with 15-20
[22:46] <Shakaz> /home* not ubuntu
[22:47] <Shakaz> ok 20GB for OS decided.
[22:47] <Shakaz> then maybe 150 for /home
[22:47] <Shakaz> and the rest for windows.
[22:47] <Shakaz> *1TB HDD
[22:47] <sepero> sounds good
[22:47] <NeonSpeed> I can figure out why my web downloads are extremely slow on 13.04
[22:48] <joufflu> what's the deal with virtual filesystem ? why not just use a filesystem ?
[22:48] <NeonSpeed> can't*
[22:48] <Shakaz> now i need to figure out how to sort this out on a windows 8 machine and carry this out?
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> Shakaz  first install windows, then ubuntu, or you will have to repair grub and get frustrated
[22:48] <Shakaz> windows 8 is preinstalled but i'm looking to boot windows 7 on it
[22:48] <Shakaz> and uninstall windows 8 completely
[22:48] <NeonSpeed> I can't get downloads to break 400kb/s and I have a 60mbps speed :/
[22:49] <Shakaz> from speedtest.net?
[22:50] <NeonSpeed> My speed tests show 70mbps but my downloads never break 400kb/s
[22:51] <ab3e> mojtaba: I kinda don't really understand what you want to achive with his form the first point, is on theire servers in clear text ... you betta belive me if I say that they have plenty copys already
[22:54] <Extreminador> guys to install mysql i net to install the "mysql-common" right ?
[22:54] <Extreminador> because the search gives me about 150 results lool
[22:54] <daftykins> Extreminador: the mysql-server package should pull in what's relevant
[22:54] <Extreminador> daftykins thanks
[22:55] <daftykins> np
[22:55] <mojtaba> ab3e: The thing is that, for using encryption I must have everybody's public key. But because I do not have that, and I do not want to store my emails in plain text on server, I am looking for a way to encrypt all of them.
[22:57] <ab3e> mojtaba: you allready lost at the time they get your mail unencrypted. You don't get more security with a post encryption.
[22:59] <ab3e> every non point to point encryption is useless
[22:59] <mojtaba> ab3e: What should I do after this? suppose I would like to send you an encrypted email, and I do not have your public key, or you do not even know what is that, what should I do then?
[23:00] <ab3e> mojtaba: thets the problem of encryption and why almost no one cares to do it. You need to have the keys! If you dont just dont cause more airpoulution for useless encryption.
[23:01] <joshua__> can i get some help please.
[23:02] <daftykins> just ask
[23:02] <Shakaz> quick question
[23:02] <Shakaz> if say I dont like linux ubuntu for whatever reason
[23:03] <Shakaz> wrong channel.
[23:05] <joshua__> ok ive been trying to download and install the latest version of "seahorse passwords manager" for awhile now and im missing dependencies so i go find them download them then it turns out those have to be at a certain update so im stuck in this long loop and finding dependencies and I was wondering if there is some sort of ppa or repo that im missing that could make this much easier, im fairly new to linux btw
[23:05] <Shakaz> actually it may be better here, what is a 'linux bootloader' when dualbooting?
[23:05] <joshua__> alot of the dependencies that i search for in the software centre are outdated so i cannot use them
[23:06] <Shakaz> 'This will remove Linux's bootloader and replace it with Windows'.'
[23:06] <daftykins> joshua__: you can't just 'apt-get install seahorse' ?
[23:06] <joshua__> daftykins: i can but that will install an older version of seahorse and i need the latest version for things to work smoothly
[23:07] <slidercrank> phew. I got my info restored :)
[23:07] <daftykins> joshua__: i see, does installing it that way not bring in the right dependancies so that your downloaded one works?
[23:08] <slidercrank> wow. I've found turbo linux 6 on my hdd:)
[23:09] <joshua__> daftykins:i tried but it still says im missing dependencies or they are not up to date like this for example one says "libgcr-3-1 (<=3.4.0)
[23:09] <JustAguy> Sudo apt-get install justaguyWantsTostayup Unable to locate package Reason: Go to sleep!
[23:09] <JustAguy> Goodnight all!
[23:09] <Guest89737> how did you do that
[23:09] <ab3e> joshua__: than you need to find a trustwothy ppa for seahorse or you build it and search for the dependencys / dependencys ppas
[23:09] <joshua__> daftykins: it specifically says dependency is not satisfiable:
[23:09] <JustAguy> Guest89737: i wrote it down manually :)
[23:10] <JustAguy> but goodnight !
[23:10] <Guest89737> good man
[23:10] <JustAguy> lets don't wake up JustaMom
[23:10] <JustAguy> otherwise we have mad mom
[23:11] <joshua__> one person suggested using raring's sources.list but im not sure how to do that
[23:12] <NeonSpeed> Why won't software center download google chrome?
[23:12] <JustAguy> NeonSpeed you need to search for chromium
[23:12] <JustAguy> that's the name for google chrome @ linux
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> google chrome is not in the default repos
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> google-chrome has its own ppa/repos you can enable if you want it
[23:13] <JustAguy> but i'm going to sleep, Dr_Willis have fun helping these people :D
[23:13] <joshua__> cause right now im stuck searching through the internet to find all the dependencies (some are not even the version i needed) and then trying to install those, so if there was a way to have all the dependencies put into the software centre that would be great
[23:13] <roby25> ciao
[23:13] <NeonSpeed> I have chromium but I wanted to see if my downloads are slow in chrome too cause my downloads are waaaay to slow
[23:13] <daftykins> joshua__: which ubuntu are you using to do this?
[23:14] <ab3e> joshua__: alternativly you maybe just could use a different key manager if you dont find a solution for your problem
[23:14] <joshua__> daftykins: lol welllll im not using ubuntu but im using elementary os luna and im pretty sure its based off of ubuntu so I didnt think it would be that hard to find dependencies
[23:14] <daftykins> joshua__: can't help you then sorry
[23:14] <NeonSpeed> never mind it was google server that was slow, just downloaded a test file and it was good, but my software center is still extremely slow :/
[23:15] <ab3e> joshua__: its not about the problem finding it its about the point that you want to have the newest version
[23:16] <joshua__> ab3e: correct
[23:17] <joshua__> daftykins: can you send me the basic ppa's and repositorys that ubuntu uses though because maybe im missing some that have the dependencies branched off in them
[23:18] <zq> halp
[23:20] <stepp_> hi
[23:20] <zq> $ sudo swapon -v /dev/sda13
[23:20] <zq> swapon on /dev/sda13
[23:20] <zq> swapon: /dev/sda13: found swap signature: version 1, page-size 4, same byte order
[23:20] <zq> swapon: /dev/sda13: pagesize=4096, swapsize=3221225472, devsize=3221225472
[23:20] <zq> swapon: /dev/sda13: swapon failed: Invalid argument
[23:20] <zq> y u no swap ubuntoo????
[23:20] <daftykins> joshua__: you can't just mix and match like that
[23:20] <FloodBot1> zq: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:21] <joshua__> ya i kinda figured that after i read it over lol sorry and thanks for trying
[23:21] <Rallias> So... I'm low on disk space and I'm at a loss of what I can do about it...
[23:22] <daftykins> Rallias: what's filling up?
[23:22] <daftykins> Rallias: can't you just delete something? :)
[23:22] <Rallias> daftykins, I currently have 95800 unused 1K-blocks
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> did you count them all? ;)
[23:22] <Rallias> Dr_Willis, No, but df -a did
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> try a df -h :) makes it more readable
[23:23] <Rallias> I have 94M/1.9G free.
[23:24] <NeonSpeed> Will I notice a performance difference if I uninstall programs I don't use?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> NeonSpeed:  if they are not running.. not really
[23:24] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, If they're running yes, otherwise no.
[23:24] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, chances are you will not
[23:25] <NeonSpeed> I feel like I'm not getting the performance I should be. What are some system programs that would be running that I could go without?
[23:25] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Desktop or server?
[23:25] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, Desktop
[23:25] <Rallias> Ubuntu variant?
[23:26] <NeonSpeed> I know I have plenty of ram and cpu but still seems to run slightly slow.
[23:26] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, 13.04
[23:26] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, probably a graphics card driver prob then
[23:26] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Go into top, get me the %WA number
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> Best Speed boost ive seen... get a SSD  ;)
[23:26] <daftykins> Rallias: that's not a big drive :D are you trying to upgrade a VM or something?
[23:26] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, that causes your card to underperform
[23:26] <daftykins> Rallias: i take it you've cleared your apt cache?
[23:26] <Rallias> daftykins, It's the xen host node, I'm just trying to get it to quit complaining.
[23:27] <Rallias> And yes, I did apt-get clean.
[23:27] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, not sure how to do that or what you're talking about?
[23:27] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Open a terminal, run "top"
[23:27] <Oliver_> Hi
[23:27] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, So it might be cause I'm running integrated video on a laptop?
[23:27] <Rallias> There's a few numbers near the top near %WA, %ID, etc
[23:27] <Oliver_> Can somebody help a noob?
[23:28] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, which one
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Oliver_
[23:28] <Rallias> Actually, on ubunutu there doesn't seem to be a %
[23:28] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[23:28] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, I'll have to look up exactly what card it is.
[23:28] <daftykins> Rallias: you could try tune2fs to remove root's reserved space on the file system
[23:28] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, which number do you need?
[23:28] <Oliver_> I'm on 12.043 though Dr_Willis
[23:28] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, The one next to wa
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  dosent really matter much.   they also may have older copies of that manual at teh site
[23:29] <Oliver_> ok
[23:29] <Oliver_> thanks
[23:29] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, I don't see WA anywhere?
[23:29] <Oliver_> Just need to connect to wifi
[23:29] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Third line, begins with %Cpu(s), it's in the middle.
[23:30] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, I see the CPU% one but nothing with WA%
[23:30] <Rallias> It's lowercase, no % on ubuntu
[23:31] <Rallias> Actually, give me that whole line.
[23:32] <NeonSpeed> I have PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM  TIME+ COMMAND
[23:33] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, 4 lines up
[23:33] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, Oooooh ok sorry I see it now, the number is going from 0.0 to 0.5
[23:34] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Mind giving me the whole line?
[23:36] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, the numbers are kinda jumping around, us is around 2.2-3.2, sy is 0.8-1.2, ni 0, id 96.7, wa 0.3, hi 0.0, si 0.2, st 0.o
[23:36] <marklar> hello guys! I've been using Ubuntu for a while, but I've never played with non-intel graphics. I was wondering if anyone knew of a good card to buy for use with open source drivers
[23:36] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Video is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 Graphics
[23:37] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, ati right
[23:38] <Rallias> Honestly, it looks like something kernelside is causing you grief.
[23:38] <NeonSpeed> kostkon,  Yeah its ATI
[23:38] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, which driver are you using? did you get an option to install the one from ati?
[23:38] <kostkon> !ati
[23:38] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, No I just used the one that installed with the OS
[23:40] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, probably the open source one. You could go into your system settings, click on software sources and then check in the last tab
[23:41] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Additional Drivers has nothing in the list
[23:42] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, right ok
[23:42] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Is there a driver I should download from the web?
[23:44] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, probably. it depends on the model. but have a look at this here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:44] <OerHeks> ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are no longer supported by the closed driver, opensource driver should work.
[23:45] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, lets see which one you have:  in the terminal give:  lspci | grep VGA
[23:45] <Rallias> He's already declared he has a 4250
[23:45] <gabriel44> help me, no puedo instalar aegisub en ubuntu 12.04
[23:45] <kostkon> Rallias, oh
[23:45] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, One step ahead of you. 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]
[23:46] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, not much you could do then
[23:46] <Rallias> gabriel44, #Ubuntu-es
[23:46] <kostkon> !es | gabriel44
[23:46] <Oliver_> Can somebody help me connect to wifi?
[23:46] <Oliver_> My network isn't showing up
[23:46] <Oliver_> 12.043
[23:46] <gabriel44> Gracias
[23:46] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, It's not running real slow but I feel like the OS should be quicker with the ram and cpu I have
[23:46] <Oliver_> Can somebody help me connect to wifi?
[23:46] <Oliver_> My network isn't showing up
[23:47] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, actually, could you describe the type of slowness you are getting. i mean, just give an example
[23:47] <daftykins> Oliver_: what model is your wireless?
[23:47] <joshua__> can someone tell me what this error means and what i can do to workaround it http://pastebin.com/JQw1d8ev
[23:48] <Oliver_> daftykins: Not sure.  It's broadcom though
[23:48] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Honestly, if you have a laptop with a graphics card AMD no longer supports, I think the CPU might not have the oomph you think it does.
[23:48] <OerHeks> joshua__, elementry os has its own issues.
[23:48] <daftykins> Oliver_: has the (laptop?) in question got a working wired connection?
[23:48] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Browser takes a bit to open up and a couple other programs, but animations and everything are smooth and clear just some programs take some time to fully startup
[23:48] <Oliver_> It hasn't been connected to wired ethernet in over 6 months, so no
[23:49] <Oliver_> I don't have an outlet for ethernet in my room daftykins
[23:49] <energizer1> I have a beginner software sources question. How do i fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053242/
[23:49] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, maybe your hdd is just too damn slow :P
[23:49] <daftykins> joshua__: you're not using ubuntu. therefore you cannot get any support in here. i have already made this clear
[23:49] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, what are the specs, cpu? ram?
[23:49] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Could be it's only 5400
[23:49] <daftykins> Oliver_: you can't take it to the router and cable it in temporarily?
[23:50] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, it could be 4800 or i dont know what else
[23:50] <Oliver_> I could daftykins
[23:50] <Johnny_Linux> yep, 5400 is kinda slow, especially ig its non sata
[23:50] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, What proc and ram?
[23:50] <Oliver_> daftykins: Should I do that?
[23:51] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, kostkon, CPU is AMD Athlon 2.20 dual-core and ram has been upgraded to max 8gb
[23:51] <OerHeks> energizer1, the ppa is called unityshell-rotated and has no raring packages >> https://launchpad.net/~paullo612/+archive/unityshell-rotated
[23:51] <daftykins> Oliver_: yeah and fully update and upgrade, then use paste.ubuntu.com to show me the output of "lspci" and "lsusb" on that computer
[23:51] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, What model?
[23:51] <NeonSpeed> also running 64bit 13.04
[23:51] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, that's more than enough for ubuntu
[23:51] <Johnny_Linux> yeah
[23:51] <Oliver_> daftykins: OK.  Give me a few minutes.
[23:52] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, What model what? CPU, or laptop?
[23:52] <Rallias> CPU
[23:52] <Johnny_Linux> he said it was a 2.2 athlon
[23:52] <NeonSpeed> 2.20GHz VISION Technology from AMD with AMD Athlon II Dual-Core Processor for Notebook PCs P340
[23:52] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, So you think its cause of the slow hard drive?
[23:53] <Rallias> Eh, that's not too old.
[23:53] <energizer1> Thanks OerHeks.
[23:53] <Rallias> Johnny_Linux, Athlon is a line they've been using for AGES.
[23:54] <energizer1> Beginner question 2: What is this problem and how do i fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053258/
[23:54] <Johnny_Linux> i have a couple of them, they do run alittle on the slow side, due to the 5400 speed, other than that, they are fine
[23:55] <NeonSpeed> Johnny_Linux, Yeah the original drive died so I bought a 500gb 5400 which the original was a 5400 too
[23:55] <Johnny_Linux> youll be fine
[23:55] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, what's the amount of swap youve got and how much is in use right now?
[23:55] <Rallias> Honestly, it's 2010 era technology. It's not horrible, but it's oldish compared to modern stuff.
[23:55] <NeonSpeed> It's not terribly slow but I just thought it would be faster
[23:56] <Oliver__> daftykins: Ok, it's Oliver_  I'm on wired connection.  Now what?
[23:56] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, give:  free -m     also check in "top"
[23:56] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, I once thought a Celeron 1.3 GHz was fast... things age and feel slower over time.
[23:56] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, I'm not sure I just selected install along side Windows 7
[23:57] <Oliver__> daftykins: Ok, it's Oliver_  I'm on wired connection.  Now what?
[23:57] <daftykins> Oliver__: do what i said before :D
[23:57] <Oliver__> daftykins: Which was?
[23:57] <daftykins> Oliver__: run "lspci" and "lsusb" in a terminal, then use paste.ubuntu.com to share the output with me.
[23:57] <Rallias> Unfortunately, I've been unable to use that machine since 11.04 came out.
[23:58] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, How do I do that top free -m?
[23:58] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, with the amount of ram youve got, you could use preload. although, it could make matters worse:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/speed-up-your-ubuntu-12-04-with-preload.html
[23:59] <Oliver__> daftykins: How do I copy it?
[23:59] <daftykins> select it - done
[23:59] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, in the terminal, give:  free -m  then check in top, by giving:  top
[23:59] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, what should I look for in top now?