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| smartboyhw | zequence, hello:) | 13:27 |
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| zequence | smartboyhw: hi | 13:28 |
| zequence | OvenWerk1: I'd rather work on replacing qjackctl with a new tool | 13:30 |
| zequence | i.e. -controls | 13:30 |
| OvenWerk1 | zequence: what would you use to make jack conections? | 13:30 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, OK, I'm starting to feel dizzy as to what we are planning for 14.04 LTS now-.- | 13:31 |
| OvenWerk1 | smartboyhw: new artwork. | 13:31 |
| zequence | OvenWerk1: patchage, or a modded version of it, as falktx uses | 13:32 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, well, that's not just it, right?! | 13:32 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: no | 13:32 |
| OvenWerk1 | I have had patchage crash on me too many times. | 13:32 |
| OvenWerk1 | smartboyhw: sorry, I was joking, art is the one thing we have talked about.. | 13:33 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, lol. I do think we need to start planning for 14.04 now (don't know if you guys like it), but we seem to have quite a lot of things planned and I can't remember all of them-.- | 13:34 |
| OvenWerk1 | ardour3. Sync the CAPs plugins would be nice. | 13:34 |
| zequence | We do planning when this cycle is done | 13:34 |
| zequence | though, 14.04 has already been mapped out quite well in planning already | 13:35 |
| zequence | one just needs to read through it | 13:35 |
| OvenWerk1 | FF is past, we could look more at 14.04. Only artwork left for this cycle. | 13:36 |
| smartboyhw | Yeah, and it's madeinkobaia's job:P | 13:36 |
| zequence | in time | 13:37 |
| * OvenWerk1 has done the stuff he wanted for this cycle | 13:37 | |
| zequence | yes, and that was very good of you | 13:37 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, congratulations | 13:37 |
| * smartboyhw didn't do anything this cycle basically;P | 13:37 | |
| smartboyhw | Fortunately, I got goals for 14.04 | 13:37 |
| smartboyhw | If not I will be a noob here;P | 13:38 |
| zequence | We need to have a meeting at some point | 13:38 |
| zequence | at least one meeting before we start working on the next cycle | 13:38 |
| * smartboyhw agrees | 13:38 | |
| OvenWerk1 | It looks like some of the broken things for xfce will get fixed. | 13:38 |
| OvenWerk1 | arandr can go, I think. | 13:39 |
| zequence | If someone wants, they could put some time on thinking about how we do beta testing | 13:40 |
| zequence | we should make sure no application is suffering from bad packaging, etc | 13:41 |
| * smartboyhw should (by his role) | 13:41 | |
| zequence | and just generally try to catch bugs | 13:41 |
| OvenWerk1 | kdenlive seems to work. | 13:41 |
| OvenWerk1 | jack works, ardour does. | 13:41 |
| zequence | Did you check full functionality, or just make sure the applications start? | 13:42 |
| OvenWerk1 | the audio applet doesn't | 13:42 |
| zequence | well, there's one problem then - but I suppose Xubuntu is on it? | 13:42 |
| zequence | as it's shared by both.. | 13:42 |
| OvenWerk1 | kdenlive I made/edited a video. | 13:42 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, we have quality control in KDE here;P | 13:42 |
| zequence | I don't think it's helpful citing which apps works on this channel | 13:42 |
| OvenWerk1 | xubuntu has a fix... if they can get it out | 13:42 |
| zequence | there's bugs for testing applications. and we need to write test cases | 13:42 |
| zequence | ok, so then it's not a problem | 13:43 |
| OvenWerk1 | I don't know where to go with blender though. How to test functionality. | 13:45 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, well, it's just a matter of how a normal user uses it | 13:45 |
| smartboyhw | As long as we know how they use it, we test it by doing the exact same | 13:45 |
| * OvenWerk1 is trying to say there are a number of apps thet require some knowlage of the craft. | 13:45 | |
| zequence | The one who writes the test case needs to know the application | 13:46 |
| zequence | and the idea is we involve our users in this | 13:46 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, yes we are supposed to | 13:46 |
| OvenWerk1 | good | 13:46 |
| OvenWerk1 | The one thing I did notice with kdenlive is the docs don't work. | 13:47 |
| OvenWerk1 | It seems the required kde infrastructure is not installed/running | 13:48 |
| OvenWerk1 | Also, there are now 4 BG processes running for KDE that are no longer in use. | 13:49 |
| zequence | sounds like a packaging problem | 13:49 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, huh? | 13:49 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, how? | 13:49 |
| OvenWerk1 | kdeinit4 klauncher kded4 /usr/bin/knotify4 were started by kdenlive, but of course kdenlive expects them to remain running so it doesn't kill them. | 13:51 |
| OvenWerk1 | This is part of the problem with any kde app. | 13:52 |
| * OvenWerk1 kills these things and starts krita | 13:55 | |
| OvenWerk1 | krita starts more kde BG stuff... and it is not the same ones, so after running both krita and kdenlive we would have 6 spare things running around. However the doc book in krita is a web page. | 14:09 |
| smartboyhw | What did I miss?! | 14:11 |
| OvenWerk1 | 06:50 < OvenWerk1> kdeinit4 klauncher kded4 /usr/bin/knotify4 were started by kdenlive, but of course kdenlive expects them to remain running so it doesn't kill them. | 14:12 |
| OvenWerk1 | 06:50 < OvenWerk1> This is part of the problem with any kde app. | 14:12 |
| OvenWerk1 | 06:54 * OvenWerk1 kills these things and starts krita | 14:12 |
| OvenWerk1 | krita starts more kde BG stuff... and it is not the same ones, so after running both krita and kdenlive we would have 6 spare things running around. However the doc book in krita is a web page. | 14:12 |
| * smartboyhw recommends OvenWerk1 to use the IRC logs syntax selection of paste.ubuntu.com next time:) | 14:13 | |
| OvenWerk1 | They don't seem to be actively using cpu, but they are using 115M of RAM | 14:15 |
| OvenWerk1 | khelpcenter is quite small, we could include it.... but then I got a not found page... | 14:25 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerk1, :O | 14:26 |
| OvenWerk1 | There is not a kdenlive doc package, but there are online docs. | 14:31 |
| OvenWerk1 | The kdenlive-data package (which we ship) does seem to have the offline docs there. The help center just doesn't seem to know about it. | 14:36 |
| OvenWerk1 | Hmm, the extra installer for each workflow should include the ubuntustudio meta for that workflow. | 15:17 |
| OvenWerk1 | That would be less confusing for someone who added the menu to another DE | 15:18 |
| OvenWerk1 | GA! found the problem with the kdenlive docbook... which doesn't work in a kubuntu session either. | 15:31 |
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