[00:50] this is nearly working... [00:51] it's loading the indicators and starting the services, but then crashing [00:53] haha, it's crashing because indicator-datetime is super wide [00:54] it doesn't like indicator-session either, another wide one [00:56] ok i removed all the indicator-ngs except sound menu, and it works [00:57] ochosi: ^ Workin' but not for long ones. [00:59] is that a known issue? [01:01] everything in the sound menu seems to work (except the things that are currently known to be broken) [01:08] hmm it looks like it's not the wide ones that make it crash [01:08] maybe it's ones that don't want to show themselves [01:12] i see the problem [01:12] it crashes if it is small and it has no icon [01:26] hmm ok, they all work except the keyboard one, which has neither an icon nor a label and therefore triggers a corner case null pointer dereference [01:41] screenshot: https://plus.google.com/117474986382867317779/posts/R1coXZ1iX3N [01:54] looks wonderful (and unbroken ;) [01:56] ah the broken thing in sound menu is that mouse wheel over the main icon doesn't work, but that's currently broken in unity too afaik [01:57] Dang, that's the one I use a lot. :/ [01:57] yeah me too [02:38] Noskcaj: we can take it under the pkg-xubuntu team (once I get it created) [02:39] assuming no one in pkg-gnome wants it [02:43] ali1234: have you updated your indicator-plugin lately? there is an important icon-fix that landed two days ago or so [02:43] yes i pulled before starting this [02:44] i'm prepare a pull request now [02:44] but i need to fix the coding style and also make it work with the white/blacklisting [02:44] ok, good to know [02:44] nearly done tho [02:45] micahg, gnome's reply was they have too many packages already and shotwell is more "gnome" [02:45] When do you expect to have the pkg-xubuntu team ready? [02:45] ali1234: sweet! [02:47] ali1234: and please do get in direct contact with andrzejr, justnso that the work isnt done twice [02:48] also, as micahg said this might go into backports, so maybe it isnt alltoolate [02:50] Noskcaj: I have to find a DD to create it apparently, will try in the next week [02:51] micahg, maybe on of the pkg-xfce guys might help us? [02:52] Noskcaj: I've got plenty of DDs to ask :), I just have to figure out who to victim^Wask for assistance [02:52] Ahaha! :D [02:52] ok [02:55] not too late if it's stable and we can get enough testing for the rdepends [02:55] ochosi: ali1234 ^^ [02:56] i think the most active team this cycle were testers, so there's still hope then [02:57] ochosi, let me know if you want me to test anything [02:57] ali1234: i noticed the bug with the scrollwheel too, but it cant be too hard to fix [02:57] Noskcaj: Did you want to test your OEM branch? [02:58] ochosi: maybe we're simply not passing it through - but when the indicator itself is broken it's hard to tell [02:58] Unit193, I could, if no one else is [02:58] ali1234: yeah, or maybe there are some gtk3 specific changes, havent looked at the code yet [03:00] ok, folks, my train is close to the border [03:00] nighht everyone [03:51] ok, the code is here: https://github.com/ali1234/xfce4-indicator-applet/commits/indicator-ng [03:51] i've sent it to andrzejr too [03:51] anywhere else i should send it? [16:34] ali1234: no, andrzejr is taking care of it [16:34] so it should be sufficient to send it to him [16:35] ali1234: oh, and just to be sure you could/should join #xfce-dev, because that's where he hangs out [19:19] * Noskcaj just turned his computer on to 10 apport messages [19:31] ali1234: if possible, could you give micahg a quick review of the stability/status of the gtk3 indicators in 13.10 [19:31] where? [19:32] just here [19:35] ok. well, everything seems to work except for the keyboard indicator, which leaves a blank space if installed. i'm not quite sure why [19:35] and the mousewheel maybe broken, but i can't tell [19:36] and also all the "edit" items in the menus try to load the wrong configuration tools, often they don't work at all because they have OnlyShowIn=Unity in the .desktops (this affects gnome too though) [19:37] micahg: ^ [19:38] any stability concerns? crashes? [19:38] hrm, we can get those fixed too [19:38] can we start a blueprint or pad with all the current bugs/things we need to fix to make this work [19:38] i haven't seen it crash at all, it's only been a day though [19:40] the network, sound, and messaging indicators work perfectly except maybe for mouse scrolling on the sound icon [19:44] the changes for indicator-ng are actually even more simple than i first though - if there was no need to support the two different systems, the patch would literally be about three lines [23:19] knome: should I add gtk-theme-config to our -desktop?