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manchickenapachelogger: You there?01:03
manchickenAnybody want to help me make a decision here?02:23
lordievaderGood morning.06:25
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soeegood morning06:52
lordievaderHey soee, how are you doing?06:56
soeelordievader, very good, thank you :) finally some reasonable temperature :)06:57
lordievadersoee: How warm is it at your end?06:57
soeeHow warm is it at your end ? how should i read it :) 06:58
lordievadersoee: What temperature is it there ;)06:58
soee1506:59
lordievaderHere it is currently 16 should go up a few degrees during the day.07:00
soeebut its not 30 :D07:00
lordievaderJup that's great :)07:02
soeelordievader, are you maybe on saucy ?07:03
lordievadersoee: Yes I am.07:03
soeeare you using network manager ?07:03
lordievaderOn one machine at least.07:03
lordievaderNo I got my network devices set up in /etc/network/interfaces07:03
soeeah ok :)07:03
smartboyhw!find dbusmenuimporter.h07:08
ubottuFile dbusmenuimporter.h found in libdbusmenu-qt-dev, libdbusmenu-qt5-dev07:08
smartboyhwThank you ubottu :D07:09
lordievadersoee: You were talking about the network manager earlier in Saucy, did you mean the two network icons?09:08
soeelordievader, yeah the icon that opens widget to manage connections09:08
lordievadersoee: Yes that one, I think it is interfering with my network mounts in fstab...09:10
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Riddellhow's this? http://www.kubuntu.org/support11:19
smartboyhwRiddell, http://kubuntu.emerge-open.com/buy how come is hourly support per month and per year the same price as one call?!11:21
Riddellhmm, good question11:22
Riddelloh you choose how many hours a month you buy11:23
smartboyhwRiddell, um, you'd better specift11:23
smartboyhwI'm quite confused11:23
Riddellvinay_: is the guy to poke about that11:23
vinay_hi, each hour is the same price but you choose the package in respect to if you want those hours per month or per year11:28
Riddellsmartboyhw: ^^11:29
smartboyhwvinay_, OK11:29
smartboyhwRiddell, it's good then11:29
smartboyhwRiddell, I'm getting a notification on Kubuntu 13.10 that 'A new version of Kubuntu is available-.-"11:41
lordievaderHehe 14.04 already? :P11:43
smartboyhwlordievader, weird, I say11:43
Riddellyes rather weird11:43
lordievaderIndeed.11:43
Riddellhow's this? http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/kubuntu-commercial-banner.png11:53
mikhascommercial support? what's that?11:53
smartboyhwmikhas, you pay for support11:54
smartboyhwOf course, all the free channels exist:P11:54
smartboyhwBut, if you are in an emergency, that might help11:54
mikhasI doubt "commercial support" targets regular users11:56
mikhasalso, no info about EmergeOpen yet: http://www.emerge-open.com/holding/index.php11:56
Riddellyes, curious for a guy who needs to show a professional image to the world11:57
smartboyhwRiddell, LOL11:57
mikhasdo you? ;-)11:57
smartboyhwRiddell, KDE SC 4.11.1 won't make it to Beta 1 right?11:58
smartboyhwSaucy I mean11:58
Riddellsmartboyhw: no I can't see that happening11:58
smartboyhwRiddell, let's just ship with KDE SC 4.11.0 then:)11:58
Riddellsmartboyhw: hmm your frameworks story has an unprofessional comment towards the end "(it would be nice to put the above in a table form, perhaps, but I - jos - dunno how :D)"12:20
Riddelloh it hasn't been published12:21
Riddellthat's ok then12:21
smartboyhwRiddell, heh12:37
Riddellhow's this? kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support12:49
smartboyhwRiddell, gd12:50
BluesKajHiyas all12:50
soeeis good12:51
Riddellta da http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support12:56
Riddellvinay_: expect that phone to be ringing all day long now :)12:56
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.1 saucy/ninjas 4.11.0 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/ninjas| 13.10 Alpha 2 and 12.04.3 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.1 saucy/ninjas 4.11.0 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/ninjas| 13.10 Alpha 2 and 12.04.3 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support | 13.10 Beta 1 to be released on Thurs
smartboyhwYes, that is super important too:p12:58
lordievadersmartboyhw: This Thursday?13:01
smartboyhwlordievader, YES13:01
smartboyhwWe will soon launch testing:)13:01
lordievadersmartboyhw: Ah great :D13:01
smartboyhwAnyone participating in their city's event of http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ this year?13:06
Riddellhmm, do we want to package this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/09/install-kde-connect-on-ubuntu-get-call-notifications13:51
Riddellkubotu: newpackage kde-connect 13:51
kubotuincorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help newpackage'13:51
Riddellkubotu: newpackage kde-connect 1.0 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/09/install-kde-connect-on-ubuntu-get-call-notifications13:52
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/121983913:52
smartboyhwRiddell, for an FFe?13:52
* smartboyhw can package it if nobody wants to do it13:53
Riddellsmartboyhw: presumably, needs investigating if it's useful yet, I'm just impressed that omg are covering kde13:54
smartboyhwRiddell, presumably, the project is still in scratch13:55
smartboyhwi.e. not yet appearing in KDE Projects13:55
smartboyhwNot a good idea to include it now13:55
smartboyhwWe will surely include this in 14.04 LTS:)13:55
mikhasRiddell, it's still ubuntu, why shouldn't they cover it?13:55
Riddellkubuntu added to http://www.muenchen.de/rathaus/Stadtverwaltung/Direktorium/LiMux/supporter.html :)13:55
Peace-Riddell: [60238.145947] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card means?13:56
RiddellPeace-: um, dunno, something up with the SD card?13:56
Peace-Riddell:sd reader doesn't work 13:56
Peace-xD13:56
Riddellmunich bug squashing party 22.11. - 24.1113:56
fosThere seems to be a problem with the KDM init script in KDE 4.11 for precise: We have several systems that hang on boot, never showing the KDM screen...14:14
fosWhen reverting back to the init script of default Kubuntu 12.04, everything seems to work reliably...14:14
fosinit -> Upstart14:17
Riddellfos: hmm that's probably not well tested because we all use lightdm to log in14:18
fosoh, ok. Shall I open a bug report?14:19
Riddellfos: is it this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/70871714:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 708717 in Kubuntu PPA "kdm fails to start" [Undecided,New]14:20
Riddellno that's a few years old14:20
Riddellfos: yeah report a new one please on https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa14:21
fosno, in that report KDM seems to start at least14:21
fosI'll open a new one then14:22
Riddellfos: any other issues?14:22
Riddellfos: this is for Munich city?14:22
fosYes, but probably not Kubuntu related14:22
fosyes, it is :-)14:22
fos(The other issue would be that we cannot do any preconfiguration for keyboard layout...)14:23
Riddellour arm image is pretty broken14:39
Tm_Tmy PPC test device is broken too14:40
Tm_Tme no likey14:40
RiddellEGL not in ld.so.conf, pyqt segfaults, and the old ubiquity --only only not working14:40
RiddellTm_T: what device was that?14:40
Tm_Tibook14:40
Tm_Tnow it fails to do partitioning to hard disk14:41
Tm_TI suspect I have broken disk yet again14:41
lordievaderTm_T: If a broken disk is all, that is easy enough to fix.14:42
Tm_Tlordievader: yup, if I manage to find spare with affordable price14:43
Tm_Tbut hey, I've seen installer now .... 30+ times in last month or so14:43
smartboyhwTm_T, -.-14:44
Tm_Tit's rather nice, I like it14:44
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rshortwhat i've tested of kde connect seems pretty neat16:31
Riddellshadeslayer: you been doing stuff on qprintdialog?16:34
shadeslayeryes16:34
shadeslayeralmost done16:34
shadeslayerneed to test and push today16:34
Riddellshadeslayer: what needed doing?16:35
Riddellshadeslayer: I don't suppose you were implementing the common print dialogue?16:35
shadeslayerRiddell: basically moving code from KDEPrintDialog to QPageSetupDialog16:35
shadeslayercommon print dialog?16:35
shadeslayerRiddell: essentially, QPrintDialog does not allow you to set the number of pages to print in a document16:36
shadeslayermy patch adds that functionality16:36
shadeslayeralso alows you to change the flow of text ( top to bottom, right to left, etc etc )16:37
Riddellshadeslayer: there was a project once to make a shiny new designed dialogue which was common between gtk and qt, it's never happened, I think the idea of calling a gtk dialogue from a qt app is a bit broken16:44
Riddellalthough we do it with open dialogues16:44
Riddellthe design was quite nice though16:44
shadeslayerDidn't we recently have crashes when gtk emitted a warning and caused Qt apps to crash?16:45
yofelthat was qt using gtk's fatal x11 error handler16:45
shadeslayeryofel: thoughts on bumping abi on all of the packages listed here http://paste.kde.org/p84e7e32b/18:24
shadeslayeror do we want to keep the delta to a minimum between debian and us18:24
yofelshadeslayer: libtaskmanager is the only one that would need an ABI bump19:09
yofeland we already have a debian diff there19:14
shadeslayerack19:21
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/p041f0ac119:39
shadeslayerhmm, install file is still bad19:40
yofelthat symbols file looks frong19:40
yofel*wrong19:40
yofel@ABI_4_4 should be @ABI_4_5519:40
yofeler, @ABI_4_519:40
shadeslayeroh?19:40
shadeslayerI just moved the file over19:40
shadeslayerneeds complete regenerating?19:40
yofelwith the abi manager that's @ABI_<SOVERSION>_<X-Debian-ABI>19:41
shadeslayertrue19:41
yofelwell, you could use SED19:41
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/p68e8846919:42
yofelack19:42
shadeslayercool19:43
shadeslayeryofel: can you manually upload a build of https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon5-kde-workspace with high priority?19:45
shadeslayerdon't have enough bandwidth19:45
yofellet me tr19:47
yofely19:47
shadeslayerokie19:48
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shadeslayerwho  wants to fix pykde4?19:59
shadeslayernot me19:59
yofelshadeslayer: uploaded20:01
shadeslayeryofel: thx 20:01
shadeslayerit builds!! \o/20:04
yofelwell, it was worth a try...20:09
shadeslayerhm20:13
shadeslayeryofel: I suppose kdelibs is out of data20:13
shadeslayer*date20:13
yofelhard to find a set of packages that builds :/20:14
shadeslayerit's just a matter of hitting build at the right time :P20:14
soeesomeone might explain why i have 2 NM icons now ?20:16
shadeslayerheh20:16
shadeslayersoee: because there are 2 nm ui's20:16
soeeoO20:17
shadeslayerand either an upgrade enabled the second one20:17
shadeslayeror you added it manually20:17
soeei just installed updates i had in moun20:17
shadeslayersoee: the other one is purely experimental20:17
soeegood to know i thought someone hacked my system :)D20:17
shadeslayerheh20:18
shadeslayerjust to install a plasmoid?20:18
shadeslayer:P20:18
soeeinstall plasmoid ?20:20
soeeits a bit confusing, i didnt want it and i have it :)20:21
soeeoh btw, sauce few minutes ago stopped working - there was no response ;) had to reboot20:22
shadeslayerbackporting 4.11.1 to raring btw21:21
shadeslayeryofel: any supporting stuff that needs backported?21:22
shadeslayerakonadi et all21:22
yofelakonadi, but I think that's it21:22
shadeslayerokay21:22
yofelmaybe try to fix that kdm bug on precise while at it21:22
Riddellhmm I can't recreate the kdm bug fos reported22:53
Riddellon a new precise install, kubuntu-ppa/backports added, dist-upgrade, reboot, kdm works fine22:53
yofelit doesn't happen always, but I see it every now and then in virtualbox22:56
yofelthanks to it happening in a random pattern I was never able to figure out what the issue was22:57
Riddellnot much difference in the kdm.conf22:57
Riddelljust a change in how it quits plymouth22:58

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