[00:04] <calwig> !Widgets
[00:07] <ab3e> Hi, something is wrong with my kubuntu, after startup I cant open a single program. Just the ones which where auto started run fine. Also I get allways the same sassion startet after reboot. 
[00:07] <ab3e> So firstly whats wrong and secondly how do I wipe the stored session ? 
[00:08] <ab3e> If i start firefox from the konsole i get this: GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed
[00:09] <ab3e> then I have cor ctrl c because nothing happens
[00:09] <ab3e> *to
[00:30] <ubuntustudio> Can anyone help me with an error message with zynaddsubfx?
[00:30] <ubuntustudio> Hello, I have been here in the past to ask this same question, I've been having issues with it for months and months and months now - any help would be GREATLY appreciated.  Essentially when I install Ubuntu - of any sort - it successfully installs but than the Radeon graphics card driver apparently doesn't work and the screen just turns on and off after boot.  WOrks great off usb.    Here is my driver info: http://paste.ubuntu
[00:30] <ubuntustudio> .com/6053323/ - also worth noting I've tried multiple times to DL the newest driver from Radeon site and the .run opens SO slow after 3 hours it was less than 25%, needless to say I quit out of that each time.... I've tried all the drivers I was able to find... and now I am unsure of how to even have these updates effect my actual filesystem on myPC - not just the USB, as I set up a 1.4G persistence.  Lastly it is worth noting 
[00:30] <ubuntustudio> that RANDOMLY it will work after the install, meaning, the graphics driver just works, the screen does not blink on and off.  THe only reason it doesn't still work is I've had to reinstall due to other issues.
[00:30] <FloodBotK1> ubuntustudio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:05] <ubuntustudio> Hello, I have been here in the past to ask this same question, I've been having issues with it for months and months and months now - any help would be GREATLY appreciated.  Essentially when I install Ubuntu - of any sort - it successfully installs but than the Radeon graphics card driver apparently doesn't work and the screen just turns on and off after boot.  WOrks great off usb.    Here is my driver info: http://paste.ubuntu
[01:05] <ubuntustudio> .com/6053323/ - also worth noting I've tried multiple times to DL the newest driver from Radeon site and the .run opens SO slow after 3 hours it was less than 25%, needless to say I quit out of that each time.... I've tried all the drivers I was able to find... and now I am unsure of how to even have these updates effect my actual filesystem on myPC - not just the USB, as I set up a 1.4G persistence.  Lastly it is worth noting 
[01:05] <ubuntustudio> that RANDOMLY it will work after the install, meaning, the graphics driver just works, the screen does not blink on and off.  THe only reason it doesn't still work is I've had to reinstall due to other issues.
[01:08] <decci> I am faicng this issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053399/
[06:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:27] <BallmerCurve> hola
[06:29] <lordievader> Hey BallmerCurve, how are you?
[07:11] <lordievader> BallmerCurve: Doing good too.
[07:11] <lordievader> !pm
[09:25] <torub> i'm having the same error as this guy after tor-browser was upgraded: http://askubuntu.com/questions/336481/tor-browser-opens-with-and-unexpected-error-window is there a way to fix it? the answer doesn't help because ~/.tor-browser doesn't exist anymore (not does the executable tor-browser)
[09:35] <poee> how do I get the original kmenu from the classic menu?
[09:37] <lordievader> poee: Do you mean right clicking the menu and clicking "Switch to Classic Menu Style"?
[09:38] <poee> yes. I ve done that already. I want the old big menu back now
[09:38] <poee> lordievader, ^
[09:38] <lordievader> Do the same thing but this time click "Switch to Application Launcher Style".
[09:39] <poee> well that was very simple. Thank you lordievader :)
[09:39] <lordievader> poee: No problem ;)
[09:40] <poee> also one more thing lordievader , where is the option to create a new user?
[09:41] <lordievader> poee: System Settings -> User Management.
[09:41] <poee> yay great :D
[09:41] <poee> thankee again
[09:43] <lordievader> Sure glad I could help.
[12:36] <abdalhy> ?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:57] <Riddell> ** commercial support now up http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support
[14:03] <ab3e> Hi, I want to remove some fonts like droid snans armenian but I get the message that this font does not exists .. why is it listet than in the first place ?
[14:15] <monkeyjuice> trying to get a usb sdcard reader to work, have looked in dmesg and its showing usb errors (card in or out) ideas?
[14:15] <monkeyjuice> running 12.04
[14:16] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice, try lsusb , to see if shows up
[14:16] <monkeyjuice> pluging in card makes no change to that output
[14:17] <monkeyjuice> the card reader lights up and flashes when sdcard is put in
[14:18] <monkeyjuice> i have rebooted with card pluged in that makes no differnce
[14:18] <BluesKaj> what about /var/log/syslog
[14:20] <BluesKaj> does your pc have a sdcard slot other than the one in the usb card reader, obvious question but i have to ask 
[14:20] <monkeyjuice> no sdcard slot ,, 
[14:21] <monkeyjuice> i see errors on usb in the syslog also 
[14:22] <monkeyjuice> maybe i should try my usb harddrive to see if it connects
[14:22] <BluesKaj> are your packages up to date ?
[14:22] <monkeyjuice> yes
[14:23] <monkeyjuice> usb 4-1: device descriptor read/64, error -62  seems to be the error 
[14:25] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice, I have no idea what that could be , the HW port scan daemon might be mucked up
[14:26] <monkeyjuice> ok ill search other ways to do this then thanks
[14:27] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice, ok , check system setttings>removable devices
[14:29] <lordievader> monkeyjuice: Can you verify that the cardreader is not broken?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> lordievader, seems no usb ports are listing correctly
[14:34] <monkeyjuice> its not showing in the removable devices eather
[14:35] <monkeyjuice> going to try the usb harddrive later see if it will show up maybe this reader is junk
[14:35] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice, do you have all the boxes checked in removable devices 
[14:35] <monkeyjuice> yep
[14:35] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:36] <monkeyjuice> it could be this reader///
[14:36] <BluesKaj> right, but then why does your usb HDD error ?
[14:37] <monkeyjuice> ya im not sure why i have errors with nothing pluged in
[14:37] <monkeyjuice> might be time to upgrade to 13
[14:37] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice, have you done dist-upgrade lately ?
[14:38] <monkeyjuice> yep i have
[14:38] <BluesKaj> upgrade all the installed packages and kse if you have the backports enabled
[14:38] <BluesKaj> kde rather
[14:39] <BluesKaj> got any other usb drives?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> like a stick
[14:39] <monkeyjuice> just my usb harddrive ill have to get that 
[14:40] <monkeyjuice> i have a usb stick ill get that
[14:41] <BluesKaj> plug it in to separate port , then try the port the reader was plugged into
[14:41] <monkeyjuice> ya that came up 
[14:41] <monkeyjuice> both ports work fine
[14:42] <monkeyjuice> must be the reader
[14:42]  * BluesKaj nods
[14:42] <monkeyjuice> stuped thing lights up and dont work lol
[14:43] <lordievader> monkeyjuice: Do you have another computer to test the reader with?
[14:43] <monkeyjuice> ya the wifes windblows machine ill try it 
[14:44] <monkeyjuice> lol windows says it has a malfuntion and cant read it 
[14:45] <lordievader> monkeyjuice: Jup than it is probably the reader malfunctioning.
[14:45]  * monkeyjuice takes a hammer and smashed the reader into little pieces
[14:46] <monkeyjuice> thanks for helping 
[14:49] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice, haven't convinced your wife to run Linux yet , can't convince mine , but lately she runs some windows only games , so i don't try anymore
[15:08] <ubuntownik> hey kolego
[15:18] <HorusHorrendus> the new NM applet (and dialog) was added pretty late in the development phase (at least I just got it today)
[15:20] <BluesKaj> HorusHorrendus, ??
[15:21] <HorusHorrendus> BluesKaj: http://grulja.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/plasma-nm-preview/ <- wasn't this one added (as standard) to kubuntu? I don't think I added it manually ;)
[15:22] <BluesKaj> iirc , the network manager has always had an applet in the system tray , maybe yours was hidden previously , HorusHorrendus
[15:23] <HorusHorrendus> BluesKaj: no of course it had one
[15:24] <HorusHorrendus> BluesKaj: http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE_122/opensuse-reference/images/nm_kde_connection_details.png <- this was the applet
[15:25] <BluesKaj> HorusHorrendus, ok , so this is something new . I don't use the NM on pcs unless i need a wifi connection with the laptop
[16:29] <oblivionosbalrog> hello
[16:30] <oblivionosbalrog> how can i change to rizon ? 
[16:30] <oblivionosbalrog> i am using konversation
[17:24] <MichaelP> does kubuntu have anything that does like systemd-analyze giving boot time and user space
[17:33] <shadeslayer> yofel: do you have an idea where I can find verbose CUPS logs?
[19:15] <nfk> what's the state of xfs support? you guys completely broke my laptop a week or two ago
[19:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: there's /var/log/cups/, but that's all I know
[19:15] <nfk> i'm currently wondering if there's any point in trying to chroot from a livecd and trying to fix grub from that or just install a distro that doesn't suck
[19:15] <shadeslayer> ok
[19:16] <shadeslayer> yofel: figured it out some time ago
[19:38] <DarthFrog> nfk: If you're unhappy with Kubuntu, there are many other excellent choices of Linux distros available to you.   If you are capable of repairing GRUB via a livecd, why are you asking about it and not doing it?
[19:46] <nfk> because i'm wondering what's the kubuntu policy
[19:46] <nfk> since you totally punted xfs from the at that time latest kernel
[19:47] <DarthFrog> This is a user to user support channel.  Nothing official here.
[19:47] <nfk> DarthFrog, am i not a user?
[19:48] <DarthFrog> You're talking as if you expect official support/answers here.  
[19:48] <nfk> how about this channel be renamed to ##kubuntu then?
[19:48] <nfk> since # implies official channel
[19:49] <DarthFrog> Only to Freenode IRC network.   Nothing to do with Canonical.
[19:50] <nfk> canonical has nothing to do with kubuntu anymore
[19:51] <DarthFrog> Not totally correct.  It is an official derivative but only supported by the community.
[19:54] <slatenails> i thought the topic read "official kubuntu support"
[19:56] <DarthFrog> Hmm, you're right.  :-)  I'm surprised at that.
[19:57] <DarthFrog> And the topic was set by Riddell, who is the founder of Kubuntu.   So I sit corrected. :-)
[20:06] <shadeslayer> DarthFrog: s/derivative/flavor/
[20:07] <shadeslayer> nfk: Kubuntu devs have nothing to do with xfs
[20:07] <shadeslayer> nfk: if it's something that was caused by the kernel, #ubuntu-kernel is where you want to go
[20:07] <shadeslayer> we only look after the KDE stack in the ubuntu project
[20:09] <DarthFrog> shadeslayer:  And is there a difference between derivative and flavour?
[20:09] <shadeslayer> DarthFrog: yes
[20:10] <shadeslayer> DarthFrog: Linux Mint is a derivative
[20:10] <shadeslayer> like Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian
[20:10] <shadeslayer> however Kubuntu is a flavor since we share the archive
[20:10] <DarthFrog> By flavour, perhaps version is meant.
[20:10] <shadeslayer> and we release at the same time as ubuntu
[20:10] <shadeslayer> follow the same freezes
[20:10] <shadeslayer> etc etc
[20:11] <shadeslayer> DarthFrog: eh?
[20:11] <DarthFrog> Flavour is what you taste in your mouth.  :-) 
[20:11] <shadeslayer> !flavor
[20:12] <shadeslayer> ^^
[20:12] <DarthFrog> Eh, it's just wordplay.   Tho' I do take the point about derivative.
[20:15] <DarthFrog> Hey shadeslayer, have you ever been to Goa?
[20:15] <shadeslayer> yes
[20:15] <shadeslayer> too many tourists IMHO
[20:15] <DarthFrog> Is it as nice a place as it's presented to be?
[20:15] <shadeslayer> not really
[20:15] <shadeslayer> it's gotten crap over the years
[20:15] <DarthFrog> Hmm, no surprise there.
[20:15] <shadeslayer> unless you're ready to shell out money for private beaches etc
[20:16] <nem> is installing kde in ubuntu the same as kubuntu?
[20:16] <shadeslayer> nem: at the moment, yes
[20:16] <shadeslayer> but after 13.10 it won't be
[20:16] <DarthFrog> nem:  Install the kubuntu-desktop package.
[20:16] <nem> ok
[20:16] <nem> yeah
[20:16] <nem> 13.10 sucks
[20:16] <FloodBotK1> nem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:16] <nem> whats happening after 13.10
[20:16] <nem> ?
[20:17] <lordievader> What's wrong with Saucy, it's quite lovely imo.
[20:17] <DarthFrog> nem:  I prefer installing Kubuntu rather than Ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop.  That why your system doesn't have Unity or all the GNOME stuff. 
[20:17] <nem> i have successfully made this ubuntu desktop a kde machine, lordievader is hang after i entered my password
[20:17] <nem> for 2 hours
[20:17] <nem> i dont want the gnome
[20:18] <nem> gnome is breaking as well my friends, the only thing that i like anymore is kde really
[20:18] <DarthFrog> nem:  After 13.10, Ubuntu will be heading off by itself, down the Mir path.  Kubuntu will be supporting Wayland, instead.
[20:18] <nem> just incase this messes up again, i have gentoo on a usb stick on the ready, so i can install that instead
[20:19] <nem> thanks for the information, i will wait for a new release of ubuntu and see what happens
[20:33] <zizoo> Hey, I've been pulling my hair out trying to get qjoypad to work, but I can't get its system tray icon to stay. It adds a space for it, then immediately gets rid of it. Every thread I read on the topic is old and either addresses a different problem or ends abruptly....
[20:33] <zizoo> Otherwise, it appears to be running normally. Any help?
[20:44] <nfk> shadeslayer, thanks
[21:06] <rmx> hi
[21:25] <Toast> Can anyone recommend a colour management stack for 4.11? I see colord and oyranos discussed online. I would prefer a packaged solution, but can build it if I have to.
[21:31] <shadeslayer> Toast: both should be packaged
[21:31] <shadeslayer> !info colord
[21:31] <shadeslayer> !info /usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[21:31] <shadeslayer> bleh
[21:31] <shadeslayer> !info oyranos
[21:32] <shadeslayer> okay oyranos isn't packaged
[21:34] <Toast> Thanks shadeslayer. Do you have any recommendation between the two?  Colord seems to the the Ubuntu choice and oyranos seems to get recommendations from the KDE side, but still doesn't seem to be part of the distribution.
[21:35] <shadeslayer> IIRC kubuntu evaluated both and went with colord
[21:37] <shadeslayer> Toast: I see a package here https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+packages
[21:37] <shadeslayer> for https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+packages
[21:37] <shadeslayer> erm
[21:37] <shadeslayer> I meant : for oyranos
[21:38] <shadeslayer> though like the PPA says
[21:38] <shadeslayer> it's experimental
[21:38] <Toast> :)
[21:39] <Toast> I was just looking for the announcement that Kubuntu had gone with colord officially. I would be happy to go with an official recommendation if it means that it works without fuss. Was this a behind the scenes decision?
[21:41] <shadeslayer> not really
[21:41] <shadeslayer> I don't remember specifics, but it was discussed on IRC
[21:41] <shadeslayer> and with the developers
[21:41] <shadeslayer> and at the time we were advised to go with colord I think
[21:41] <Toast> OK. I'll go with that then. Thanks.
[22:16] <sanna_> Hekki
[22:16] <sanna_> Hello*
[22:17] <banchie> any advice how to update from 10 -> 12
[22:18] <BluesKaj> banchie:  best to do a clean install , are you staying with LTS versions ?
[22:19] <BluesKaj> 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS, for example
[22:20] <banchie> yes
[22:20] <banchie> But cannot seem to make a install disk
[22:22] <BluesKaj> you can upgrade to 12.04LTS if you have the upgrade manager set to LTS only '
[22:23] <BluesKaj> over the internet 
[22:26] <banchie> hmm, how might  I do iut
[22:34] <BluesKaj> banchie:  open muon 
[22:36] <banchie> need my properties fixed before, cant even agt-getiä it
[22:36] <BluesKaj> sorry I have to go
[22:49] <amine_> bonsoir on peu descuter on fracais ?
[22:54] <robh71> anyone here have any success getting kubuntu installed on a chromebook -- yes I know this is probably beyond scope here.
[22:56] <`Muttley`> Morning all... Just wondering what it takes to get onto the Kubuntu.org website? I keep getting blocked by the Canonical reverse proxy?!
[22:56] <`Muttley`> Or Kubuntu.com for that matter
[22:58] <`Muttley`> Anyone?
[22:59] <`Muttley`> Wow. Thanks all.
[23:18] <Linusnewb> hi all i have no security updates received since last week is this normal?