=== duflu_ is now known as duflu [03:33] Good morning === duflu_ is now known as duflu [04:32] pitti: morning. some reviews needed. ubuntu-system-settings starts depending on content hub (both in universe) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6053813/ , unity-greeter-session-broadcast stops building its libraries for now and dbus changes http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6053814/ (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/unity-greeter-session-broadcast/trunk.13.10/revision/22) [05:04] hey Mirv [05:04] looking [05:05] hey pitti [05:05] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6053813/ -> was there a MIR filed? [05:06] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6053814/ ack [05:07] pitti: I don't see one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings - that's seb128's package for a large part, I should ask him when he's around now that FF is behind us [05:07] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/content-hub/+bugs rather, but no bugs there [05:08] yes, neither for content-hub [05:08] maybe this week will be the week of MIRs [05:09] the setting stack can wait untils seb128 is here in a couple of hours === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [08:00] morning all [08:03] pitti, Laney Hi [08:06] hey darkxst [08:08] hey Laney, how are you? had a good w.e? [08:08] hi seb128, yeah it was good thanks, not much sleep but still nice ;-) [08:08] have some bruises from paintballing too [08:08] how was yours? [08:08] oh, you did paintball, nice! [08:08] yeah! [08:08] mine was relaxing, no bruises :p [08:09] morning seb128 [08:09] I lent someone my jumper as he was going to be fired on more by everyone else and then the rules changed and I ended up being pummeled wearing just a t-shirt :P [08:09] Mirv, hey [08:09] Laney, utch [08:10] seb128: settings stack would need acking of the dependency add on content-hub. Martin was interested generally on the MIR plans of content-hub etc [08:10] Mirv, +1, I approved that MR [08:10] what "plan"? [08:11] ok [08:11] seb128: well, I guess if everything on the touch images is planned to be MIRd [08:11] I know there is a lot queued already [08:11] I've no clue when we want to MIR stuff [08:12] does it matter? [08:13] he did mention earlier that it's unfortunate that phablet images contain software that isn't officially supported [08:14] seb128, we should MIR everything before release [08:14] so I think that's the main question, although much larger topic than just settings/hubs [08:14] hey darkxst [08:14] good morning Laney [08:14] bonjour seb128 [08:14] ola pitti [08:14] ogra_, pitti: hey [08:15] ogra_, "release", being saucy release? [08:15] moin [08:15] args [08:15] seb128, yeah ... we should at least try [08:15] * pitti waves to ogra_, too [08:15] my original gpg key expiry date has passed [08:15] ogra_, good luck :p [08:15] now every chroot is complaining [08:15] that should be a september target [08:15] pitti, any ideas about bug 1219588? I am getting mouse flat notifications every 10 mins ;( [08:15] Launchpad bug 1219588 in upower (Ubuntu) "wireless mouse battery percentadge incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1219588 [08:16] ogra_, the issue is that MIR team is not going to scale for those reviews, it's basically down to mterry and he's overbusy on greeter work and other stuff [08:16] ogra_, not to mention security reviews [08:16] seb128, yeah, i know, thats why i said "try" :) [08:16] darkxst: probably the same bug as bug 1103064 [08:16] Launchpad bug 1103064 in upower (Ubuntu) "power indicator shows Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse batteries with 0%" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103064 [08:16] we sholdnt release official images without having all bits on the image supported imho [08:17] pitti, Mirv: in any case, content-hub is the content picker for the phablet, it's being done by kenvandine and gusch, I doubt we can do without a content picker, that's the only way to e.g select files to add to email, messages, gallery, etc [08:17] darkxst: as it happens I reviewed a proposed upstream branch for fixing Logitech wireless devices; I'll build a PPA package from this soon [08:17] but if we cant make it, we simply cant [08:17] in general news, all of cu2d green except for Apps and Unity that have known test related bugs reported and contacted upon [08:17] seb128: sure; I'm fine with the diff, I was just pointing out that it needs a MIR [08:17] pitti, it doesn't, system-settings is in universe [08:17] eh? [08:18] seb128: we build phone images from universe? [08:18] seb128: but then, sure [08:18] what's what ogra_ was just talking about [08:18] pitti, even fromn PPAs still [08:18] pitti, of course, 90% of the new components didn't get through MIR yet [08:18] s/what/that/ [08:18] ah [08:19] ogra_: we still haven't disabled all PPAs? [08:19] Mirv: so, then ignore the MIR bit for now :) [08:19] pitti, PPA usage was a task planned to be fixed by august first ... [08:19] obviously ddint make it [08:19] pitti, well "of course"... things are crazy, we keep landing new stuff, the goal so far is to drop the ppa use, we didn't think yet about getting stuff in main [08:19] Mirv, the demo-assets packages are still in the PPA ... [08:19] and the webapps-demo packages too [08:19] seb128: as far as I read, we plan to upgrade 13.10 phone installs to some 14.04 daily snapshots after some time anyway, right? so doesn't matter that much I guess [08:20] and all core apps come from the core apps PPA [08:20] ogra_: and I guess phone-app being replaced really-soon-now [08:20] pitti, ok thanks [08:20] (they are supposed to be click packages soon though, that will solve itself) [08:20] Mirv, phone-app is gone since last week [08:20] pitti, I don't know the specific, ogra_ just said that we should try to go through MIR with everything before saucy release, not sure how realistic that is [08:20] seb128, that we try ? [08:21] i hope thats very relaistic :) [08:21] ogra_: \o/ [08:21] ogra_, no, that we manage to get MIR team and security team to review all that [08:21] ogra_, or we need more people to do reviews [08:22] seb128, yeah, i'm not that unrealistic to say we'll make it :) [08:22] buut the paperwork should at least be done for all packages by release [08:23] right [08:23] we should finish the archive reorg instead :-) [08:24] Laney, feel free, nobody holds you back :) [08:24] hrhr [08:24] Laney: well, however we reorg the archive, we still need some kind of Component Inclusion Report/Review for stuff that we support [08:24] ++ [08:25] there's something but it won't be as heavy as MIRs iirc [08:25] how could it be any less heavy? [08:28] Hmm, can't remember the details [08:28] But I think there was some classes of things that weren't going to need a full review [08:46] seb128: Help [08:46] I don't understand what you mean by this: "* The design says "Switching to “4-digit passcode” should display a “Choose Passcode” alert with “New passcode” and two fields, “Cancel” and “Set” buttons. " [08:46] The current version has only 1 entry (I guess it's a type/type again to make sure there is no typo)" [08:46] OH [08:46] I do now [08:47] what does type/type mean though? [08:47] sorry I meant "password confirmation dialog" [08:47] e.g: [08:47] type your passorwrd [08:47] type your password again [08:47] ah yes [08:47] type/type again [08:47] ;-) [08:47] I didn't parse the text correctly [08:47] either mpt's spec or your comment [08:47] :P [08:47] yeah, it was not written nicely [08:48] well, I'm unsure [08:48] mpt's spec has a "2 entries..." somewhere [08:48] yeah [08:48] "two fields" [08:48] it's worth checking with him [08:49] doing in #-touch [09:23] pitti, did the "need to import translation templates from daily build ppa" ever go anywhere? [09:24] seb128: hm, no response from launchpad in bug 1201485 [09:24] Launchpad bug 1201485 in langpack-o-matic "Need to import translations for the unity daily builds" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1201485 [09:25] * pitti pings Steve and Willian in #u-devel [09:25] thanks === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr === mpt_ is now known as mpt [10:23] Laney, seb128: I shall change that to a sheet with three fields ... Three successive dialogs is an interrogation. [10:25] mpt: I thought it was two, but maybe the same applies [10:26] Laney, yeah, true, the first dialog containing one field and the second containing two fields [10:26] indeed [10:26] mpt: Can you include what to do when the inputted value is wrong? [10:32] mpt, the "about this phone: storage" on the google doc, in the things to update you should add "list extra categories" (e.g movies, audio, pictures, other files) [10:34] Laney, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings?action=diff&rev2=28&rev1=27 [10:35] seb128, why? [10:35] oh, right, the erratum [10:35] cheers [10:36] done [10:38] mpt, thanks [10:40] mpt, do I read correctly from the notes that "GPS" should be dropped from the main screen? [10:45] seb128: does the kernel need any special support to run desktop sessions in saucy? my nexus7 doesn't work correctly [10:45] mlankhorst, try asking ogra_, I think he said we would need a special kernel for the n7 [10:45] we don't support desktop on it, just touch [10:46] yeah I know, but still.. [10:48] seb128: can I force a fallback to the old desktop session? [10:49] seb128, yes [10:50] mlankhorst, iirc the tegra has an issue if you want to run X without having fbcon in the kernel [10:51] touch doesnt use fbacon [10:51] err [10:51] fbcon [10:51] ogra_: well the xserver initializes, but nothing gets started [10:51] right [10:52] touch also hands over device handling to the container [10:52] s/handling/initialization/ [10:52] once we have Mir, XMir should work though [10:54] mlankhorst, i think your best move would be to install raring desktop and dist-upgrade [10:54] touch is surely not suited well for testing X [10:55] ogra_: yeah it's the path I took, but I was hitting a bug with xorg init [10:55] and from some digging looks like saucy changed to using systemd init [10:56] lol [10:56] surely not :) [10:56] but you most likely hit a bug with plymouth [10:56] make sure to disable all the upstart jobs for it ... or force that console-setup runs from the initrd [10:57] either will make it boot [11:28] ogra_: only error I'm getting in .xsession-errors is init: Unable to register as subreaper: Invalid argument [11:28] oh, thats a kernel issue then [11:29] thought so [11:29] bug 1218415 [11:29] Launchpad bug 1218415 in linux-maguro (Ubuntu) "upstart needs subreaper prctl support for touch kernels < v3.4" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1218415 [11:39] oops, still on the old nexus7 kernel, which I guess was the desktop kernel [11:40] as i said, the new -grouper kernel wont have fbcon [11:41] yeah, it's sad that they can't have the nexus7 as supported for desktop [12:26] Hey, gvfs-backends is broken after the libimobiledevice rebuild; it needs porting to the new libimobiledevice API; this was done upstream in gvfs 1.17.3; upstream even has a 1.17.90 [12:27] I only saw bug fixes / cleanups, no new features in these [12:27] is someone working on this update? would be good to get for beta1 [12:28] lool, hey, thanks for working on that ... not sure about the update, pitti is the one who usually does the gvfs update [12:28] pitti, ^ did you start on those? [12:28] I saw there are some commits of his upstream :-) [12:28] je peux le faire [12:29] pitti, ça serait bien, merci! [12:29] pitti: ce serait super pour https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2013-September/002528.html [12:29] pitti: merci :-) [12:30] pitti: grep-ing the build log, there seemed to be other potential bugs of the type "incompatible pointer type" in the log; outside of libimobiledevice, these are probably not new, but if you are tempted to have a look... :-) [12:30] pitti: I suspect https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1214204 is fixed with new version [12:30] lool: Error: launchpad bug 1214204 not found [12:30] ubot2`: it's because it's private [12:30] lool: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:31] ubot2`: not pretending you are [12:31] lool: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:31] see [12:31] someone please teach ubot2` some eliza! [12:31] ubot2`: how do you feel today? [12:31] pitti: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:31] booring [13:00] sil2100, don't add the pot to the upstream lens, that was just needed once to "bootstrap" launchpad (it needs a pot to import) [13:02] seb128: ah, ok, then I'll just add the changelog entry, ok? [13:02] sil2100, yes [13:03] Mirv, seb128: I think both AP machines are down ;/ Looking on what's up [13:08] jibel: ping [13:08] jibel: could you take a look on what's wrong with jenkins and the AP machines? [13:08] jibel: it looks as if they're not visible on jenkins [13:09] jibel: rebooting the machines didn't help [13:09] sil2100, looking [13:10] jibel: thanks! [13:14] jibel: I don't see the jenkins slaves being ran on the test machines? [13:16] sil2100, right because "Error: Invalid or corrupt jarfile /var/run/jenkins/slave.jar" [13:17] sil2100, it should be good now [13:18] jibel: \o/ thanks! [13:18] yw [13:21] seb128: I already pushed the modified version, can you +1 that branch so we can merge it? [13:22] sil2100, done [13:25] THanks! [13:27] jibel: btw. do you know a thing or two about the mediumtest jobs, or is that more of a Francis-thing? ;) [13:28] sil2100, I know nothing about these jobs :) === dednick is now known as dednick|lunch [13:58] lool, seb128: uploading gvfs 1.17.90 (will be blocked by freeze, though) [13:59] pitti, danke [14:22] Laney, around? [14:23] seb128: yes [14:24] Laney, you looked a bit to the AS custom property stuff last week [14:24] gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.Accounts --object-path /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 --method org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set com.canonical.unity.AccountsService launcher-items "<[{'defaults' : }]>"" [14:24] Laney, I want to transform that to qt code [14:25] Laney, do you know how to format the "<[{'defaults' : }]>" [14:25] should that be a QVariant? [14:26] userInterface.call("Set", [14:26] "com.canonical.unity.AccountsService", [14:26] "launcher-items", [14:26] "<[{'defaults' : }]>"); [14:27] e.g I guess the last argument there is in buggy format [14:27] hmm [14:27] Almost certainly not that [14:27] right [14:27] sec [14:27] well, I copied the gdbus line and started replacing bits [14:27] I'm just not sure what to do with the "defaults: true" [14:30] Laney, looking to https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/launcher-items/+merge/181061 is helping I think [14:30] QList items; [14:30] QVariant::fromValue(items)) [14:31] http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtdbus/qdbustypesystem.html [14:32] items << QVariantMap().insert("defaults", true) [14:32] Laney, ^ does that seems about right do you? [14:37] seb128: sec, otp [14:38] Laney, no hurry, I did that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6055372/ [14:38] seems to build fine, I can't really test it though, since the unity side didn't land yet [14:42] seb128: well, I think it'd be at runtime that you see any problems [14:42] you could try adding a property with a matching type to security-privacy and see if that works === dednick|lunch is now known as dednick [14:44] Laney, ok, I can test on my desktop in fact [14:44] Laney, the unity8 work from mterry landed [14:44] Laney, thanks ;-) [14:44] I don't understand what type that is though [14:44] is a{sv} or something else? [14:45] Laney, + [14:45] ah [14:45] hence the extra QList, I did wonder [14:45] yeah if you install the files from unity8 you should be able to test that [14:45] I've it in d-feet [14:45] so on the right way === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter [15:06] pitti: should we request a hint to pass it though? [15:06] pitti: Seems there are some crashes for ios users that might be worth fixing for beta1? [15:36] lool, you can try asking on -release about it [15:39] seb128: I thought pitti might have a reason not to ask for it [15:39] I've asked for libgpod to be hinted earlier today [15:39] seb128: if you think gvfs is low risk, I can ask for it [15:39] I've looked at the git log, and it seemed fine [15:40] Laney, ^ [15:40] opinion? [15:41] no opinion [15:41] can you get someone else to look at it? [15:41] Trying to unconfuse myself about s-s atm [15:42] I can try to confirm whether I get the same bug as the reporter and whether it's fixed, at least we know it's good enough on this backend which is one of the only ones updated [15:42] trying that now [15:43] sil2100, when is the next tick? [15:57] seb128, Laney, pitti: After testing, I can confirm that I got some error popups on login with an ipad plugged (bus timeout blahblah) and when clicking on the automatically added mount points in nautilus; when upgrading to pitti's packages, I got nice dialogs on login offering to import pictures, and nautilus allowed to browse the device === psivaa is now known as psivaa-bbl [15:58] lool: Maybe you could ask Colin (or Stéphane if he's still around) in #ubuntu-release to consider it [15:58] lool: Otherwise I'll look in a bit when I get done with this branch [15:59] thanks for your testing/work [16:01] lool: no particular reason not to ask for it, just that it might unduly set back the image testing [16:01] We're not on full on image testing yet [16:02] lool: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-gvfs/121/ is happy anyway [16:02] and I tested it locally, of course [16:02] we have fairly good test coverage these days (just not the ipod stuff, but lool just tested that manually) [16:02] pitti: please say so on -release :-) [16:02] that you've tested it and that we've good coverage [16:03] pitti: on #ubuntu-release that is [16:03] seb128: 20:00 [16:03] seb128: we missed the tick due to machine problems === 16WAAZ40T is now known as tvoss_ [16:03] seb128: I wasn't sure if it made sense to re-run everything or maybe wait for the next tick probably [16:04] lool: done [16:04] thanks [16:04] sil2100, ok, do you think you could retry the sdk stack while you are still around? [16:05] sil2100, I would like to see it published today, the new optionselector landed and I need it [16:05] \o/! [16:06] seb128: hm, ok [16:07] seb128: running! [16:07] sil2100, thanks ;-) [16:59] jibel: are you around? :) [17:00] sil2100, please tell me that the machines are not screwed again ;-) [17:00] seb128: eeeeh ;) [17:01] seb128: they *look* hanged up, wanted jibel to check what's up [17:01] :-( [17:02] ;/ [17:03] seb128: ok, screw that, we don't have too much time so I'll restart the machines and re-run SDK [17:03] sil2100, thanks [17:10] sil2100, I'm around, I'll have a look [17:13] jibel: thanks! ;) Restarted them already though... the jobs were standing and doing nothing, the containers were accessible and seemed ok [17:14] sil2100, okay [17:14] sil2100, when you say "them" should I understand that not only intel was stuck? [17:15] jibel: yes, the strange thing was that both intel and nvidia were stuck, so maybe the SDK stack has something broken? [17:15] sil2100, it could be, because previous freezes we had only affect intel [17:28] sil2100, jibel: I doubt it's a sdk bug, the log looked like dbus timeouts (again) [17:29] seb128: *sighs* [17:30] seb128: today is an unlucky day, I would gladly publish unity, but I'm not sure if the tests were indeed sane [17:30] seb128: since only one machine finished [17:31] sil2100, let's be safe and publish tomorrow rather [17:32] sil2100, most things are blocked by the freeze anyway [17:32] Indeed [17:37] seb128: ok, we're officially screwed [17:37] seb128: the AP machines are gone AGAIN [17:37] jibel: ^ [17:38] jibel: help us, today everything is more unreliable than before it seems! [17:39] ze sky, eet eez falleeng [17:39] Laney: I hope not! [17:45] sil2100, :-( [17:46] seb128, jibel: aborting those builds, since it's impossible for it to finish now, so at least the next tick will run ;/ [17:47] sil2100, ok [17:47] * seb128 shakes fist at the qa lab [17:48] What the heck is happening [17:53] seb128: I *probably* restarted the testing slaves [17:53] So I hope the 20:00 tick will kick in and finish === psivaa-bbl is now known as psivaa [18:09] seb128, sil2100 I'll monitor 1800UTC tick after dinner [18:10] jibel: thanks :) Strange thing since the slaves don't seem to start up after a soft-reboot === slomo__ is now known as slomo === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark