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g0twig | jojojo folks | 10:45 |
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g0twig | I want to start, to make packages available for newer gnome software | 10:46 |
g0twig | is anyone intrested? | 10:46 |
g0twig | like gnome-calendar, Polari | 10:47 |
g0twig | Zoiaguyver: jo | 10:55 |
jbicha | darkxst: are you around? | 13:22 |
jbicha | or ricotz, do we have good reasons for needing g-s-d 3.8? bug 1219486 | 13:25 |
ubot5 | bug 1219486 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "FFe: Update gnome-settings-daemon to 3.8.4" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1219486 | 13:25 |
gocrystaltears | hello | 15:49 |
mariusR | hello all | 16:59 |
mariusR | just now I have seen that there is a ubuntu gnome version! my question to you is: is this a sort of a oficial ubuntu release | 16:59 |
mariusR | I am interested in a verry stable release | 16:59 |
mariusR | will there be a sort of LTS releases? | 16:59 |
jbicha | yes, Ubuntu GNOME is an official Ubuntu flavor: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives | 17:01 |
Zoiaguyver | It is an official release, I think the next LTS will be 14.04 (it's a guess that ubuntu GNOME will be LTS for 14.04) | 17:02 |
jbicha | we currently don't have enough developers and testers to be able to commit to providing long-term support | 17:02 |
mariusR | Now I was reading the FAQ so I kinda got the point | 17:04 |
mariusR | from what you said .... | 17:04 |
mariusR | is gnome ubuntu in any way less stable then the same release of ubuntu | 17:05 |
Zoiaguyver | It's a nice fresh project :) | 17:05 |
mariusR | ps: if it's fresh then I am glad that I have kinda got it from the begining | 17:05 |
mariusR | :) | 17:05 |
Zoiaguyver | Well a lot is personal opinion, but so far even the Alphas are more stable than a lot of linux distros I've tried over the years. | 17:06 |
mariusR | a ok...I get the point...I was asking puctual...as a direct compo with ubuntu | 17:06 |
mariusR | sorry for posing so much questions... | 17:06 |
mariusR | problem with me is that I loved ubuntu but since the unity and all.... | 17:07 |
mariusR | I started disliking it... | 17:07 |
Zoiaguyver | No problem the more questions the better :). It's as stable if not more so than Ubuntu on my rig | 17:07 |
mariusR | also took a look at mint as it was more on my taske as an interface... | 17:07 |
mariusR | now with this...a ubuntu again with gnome...for me sounds grate | 17:07 |
mariusR | I have downloaded it and now creating a bootable usb... | 17:08 |
Zoiaguyver | Yep a lot feel the same I think. | 17:08 |
mariusR | thank you for your support.... | 17:08 |
mariusR | I am verry happy to see this project underway... | 17:08 |
mariusR | thank you...and have a great night... | 17:09 |
mariusR | by | 17:09 |
Zoiaguyver | No problem, If you decide to make the switch and get any issues, just come back and ask, someone is normally around (not 100% of the time at the moment, but getting there) | 17:09 |
Zoiaguyver | You too | 17:09 |
mariusR | ok i will... | 17:09 |
mariusR | :) | 17:09 |
g0twig | hey | 17:44 |
g0twig | anyone here? | 17:44 |
g0twig | ricotz: jo | 17:44 |
ricotz | g0twig, better just tell what the problem is | 18:30 |
g0twig | ricotz: oh there are you | 18:31 |
g0twig | ricotz: I want to help you, get gnome software onto Ubuntu (PPA) | 18:31 |
g0twig | I compiled a number of gnome software, with packages which are in the staging ppa ((build)dependencies) | 18:32 |
g0twig | ricotz: can I help? | 18:32 |
ricotz | g0twig, nice, what in specific? you can propose a packaging diff to the current saucy package and someone might pick it up and upload it | 18:34 |
g0twig | ricotz: for what should I "package" ? gnome 3 staging PPA or Ubuntu upstream? | 18:34 |
g0twig | I dont understand ;X | 18:34 |
ricotz | g0twig, or push a bzr branch with your changes against the matching ubuntu-desktop team branch | 18:35 |
g0twig | ricotz: if my package is in a good state, could you put it into the gnome 3 staging ppa? | 18:35 |
g0twig | e.g Gnome Photo version 3.9.4 | 18:35 |
g0twig | and what should I do with really new software, software that isnt even released yet, but soon (gnome-software,maybe gnome-calendar) | 18:36 |
ricotz | ah, i see. i guess nobody looked at this one yet | 18:36 |
g0twig | and gnome-maps of course | 18:37 |
ricotz | you will have to start a new packaging branch and propose it | 18:37 |
g0twig | ricotz: can we include software into the gnome 3 staging ppa, which does not even have a stable version yet? | 18:37 |
ricotz | in case of those you might want to propose them to debian experimental which is already getting into shape with 3.10 | 18:37 |
g0twig | so, debian does care more about gnome than Ubuntu? | 18:38 |
ricotz | if there is a released tarball it is fine to add those | 18:38 |
ricotz | ubuntu sync packages from debian and to avoid double work it is better to propose such new packages directly to debian | 18:39 |
ricotz | but of course we can add them to the ppa first too | 18:39 |
g0twig | but debian packaging is supposed to be hardcore? | 18:39 |
ricotz | huh? | 18:39 |
g0twig | xD I dont know | 18:40 |
g0twig | but the software on experimental is still outdated | 18:40 |
g0twig | why so | 18:40 |
g0twig | its version 3.8 lol | 18:40 |
g0twig | not even 3.9 | 18:40 |
ricotz | push you packages to your own ppa and testbuild them | 18:40 |
ricotz | *your | 18:41 |
g0twig | ricotz: I just want to make sure I dont double the affords :X | 18:41 |
ricotz | 3.9 packages are currently in svn | 18:41 |
g0twig | maybe I look how to bring gnome-photos to a newer version | 18:41 |
g0twig | ricotz: what do you mean with "svn"? not packaged yet? | 18:41 |
g0twig | or not built yet | 18:41 |
ricotz | g0twig, http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/ | 18:42 |
g0twig_ | sry, epiphany crashed | 18:43 |
ricotz | so if there is no ubuntu specific packaging this is what you want to base your new package on | 18:44 |
g0twig_ | btw. epiphany is also outdated in staging ppa, the private mode is broken | 18:44 |
ricotz | <ricotz> g0twig, http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/ | 18:44 |
g0twig_ | thx | 18:44 |
ricotz | as said propose a diff of "debian/*" of your working package and someone will look at it | 18:45 |
g0twig_ | they dont even use git ;X | 18:46 |
jbicha | I think the Debian GNOME team are interested in switching to git but no one's volunteered to do the conversion without losing history - they maintain over 250 packages | 18:49 |
jbicha | it's just a lot of work | 18:49 |
jbicha | they also seem open to using dh7 now instead of cdbs | 18:49 |
g0twig_ | how can I get that branch | 18:50 |
g0twig_ | sry for being an idiot | 18:50 |
g0twig_ | http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/gnome-photos/debian/ | 18:50 |
jbicha | svn co svn://anonscm.debian.org/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/gnome-photos/ | 18:54 |
g0twig_ | thx | 18:54 |
g0twig_ | so I reused this src package , and was able to compile a version based on 3.9.4 | 19:10 |
g0twig_ | just added one new dependency | 19:10 |
g0twig_ | oh god.. gnome-photos is so slow | 19:12 |
g0twig_ | but it sort of works | 19:12 |
bjsnider | oh, well that's good | 19:35 |
bjsnider | doesn't work for me. launches but nothing's in it and no way to add anything | 19:37 |
bjsnider | that being 3.8.2 in raring | 19:37 |
g0twig_ | bjsnider: so you used the original package from the gnome 3 repo? | 20:46 |
bjsnider | yep | 20:46 |
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darkxst | jbicha, morning | 21:04 |
siwica | I am trying to install Ubuntu GNOME (latest stable version). After inserting my LIve CD and clicking "Install" I have waited fot about 20 min so far but only see a blue screen with no progress bar and only my mouse pointer. Is that supposed to be that way?! | 21:05 |
darkxst | the two main things I can think of are OSD's and power stuff | 21:06 |
jbicha | darkxst: do you want to add some comments to the bug then? I wasn't sure which features and bugfixes were the most important from the NEWS file | 21:08 |
darkxst | jbicha, sure will do in a bit | 21:09 |
darkxst | I suspect there will also be a lot of bugs in gnome-shell caused by the old g-s-d | 21:10 |
darkxst | but I never really tested that | 21:10 |
darkxst | things like keygrabber | 21:11 |
darkxst | should be rather broken | 21:11 |
darkxst | input switching possibly broken also? | 21:13 |
darkxst | basically anything that was offloaded into shell/mutter etc is likely to be buggy | 21:14 |
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