[10:45] <g0twig> jojojo folks
[10:46] <g0twig> I want to start, to make packages available for newer gnome software
[10:46] <g0twig> is anyone intrested?
[10:47] <g0twig> like gnome-calendar, Polari
[10:55] <g0twig> Zoiaguyver: jo
[13:22] <jbicha> darkxst: are you around?
[13:25] <jbicha> or ricotz, do we have good reasons for needing g-s-d 3.8? bug 1219486
[15:49] <gocrystaltears> hello
[16:59] <mariusR> hello all
[16:59] <mariusR> just now I have seen that there is a ubuntu gnome version! my question to you is: is this a sort of a oficial ubuntu release
[16:59] <mariusR> I am interested in a verry stable release
[16:59] <mariusR> will there be a sort of LTS releases?
[17:01] <jbicha> yes, Ubuntu GNOME is an official Ubuntu flavor: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[17:02] <Zoiaguyver> It is an official release, I think the next LTS will be 14.04 (it's a guess that ubuntu GNOME will be LTS for 14.04)
[17:02] <jbicha> we currently don't have enough developers and testers to be able to commit to providing long-term support
[17:04] <mariusR> Now I was reading the FAQ so I kinda got the point
[17:04] <mariusR> from what you said ....
[17:05] <mariusR> is gnome ubuntu in any way less stable then the same release of ubuntu
[17:05] <Zoiaguyver> It's a nice fresh project :)
[17:05] <mariusR> ps: if it's fresh then I am glad that I have kinda got it from the begining
[17:05] <mariusR> :)
[17:06] <Zoiaguyver> Well a lot is personal opinion, but so far even the Alphas are more stable than a lot of linux distros I've tried over the years.
[17:06] <mariusR> a ok...I get the point...I was asking puctual...as a direct compo with ubuntu
[17:06] <mariusR> sorry for posing so much questions...
[17:07] <mariusR> problem with me is that I loved ubuntu but since the unity and all....
[17:07] <mariusR> I started disliking it...
[17:07] <Zoiaguyver> No problem the more questions the better :). It's as stable if not more so than Ubuntu on my rig
[17:07] <mariusR> also took a look at mint as it was more on my taske as an interface...
[17:07] <mariusR> now with this...a ubuntu again with gnome...for me sounds grate
[17:08] <mariusR> I have downloaded it and now creating a bootable usb...
[17:08] <Zoiaguyver> Yep a lot feel the same I think.
[17:08] <mariusR> thank you for your support....
[17:08] <mariusR> I am verry happy to see this project underway...
[17:09] <mariusR> thank you...and have a great night...
[17:09] <mariusR> by
[17:09] <Zoiaguyver> No problem, If you decide to make the switch and get any issues, just come back and ask, someone is normally around (not 100% of the time at the moment, but getting there)
[17:09] <Zoiaguyver> You too
[17:09] <mariusR> ok i will...
[17:09] <mariusR> :)
[17:44] <g0twig> hey
[17:44] <g0twig> anyone here?
[17:44] <g0twig> ricotz:  jo
[18:30] <ricotz> g0twig, better just tell what the problem is
[18:31] <g0twig> ricotz: oh there are you
[18:31] <g0twig> ricotz: I want to help you, get gnome software onto Ubuntu (PPA)
[18:32] <g0twig> I compiled a number of gnome software, with packages which are in the staging ppa ((build)dependencies)
[18:32] <g0twig> ricotz: can I help?
[18:34] <ricotz> g0twig, nice, what in specific? you can propose a packaging diff to the current saucy package and someone might pick it up and upload it
[18:34] <g0twig> ricotz: for what should I "package" ? gnome 3 staging PPA or Ubuntu upstream?
[18:34] <g0twig> I dont understand ;X
[18:35] <ricotz> g0twig, or push a bzr branch with your changes against the matching ubuntu-desktop team branch
[18:35] <g0twig> ricotz: if my package is in a good state, could you put it into the gnome 3 staging ppa?
[18:35] <g0twig> e.g Gnome Photo version 3.9.4
[18:36] <g0twig> and what should I do with really new software, software that isnt even released yet, but soon (gnome-software,maybe gnome-calendar)
[18:36] <ricotz> ah, i see. i guess nobody looked at this one yet
[18:37] <g0twig> and gnome-maps of course
[18:37] <ricotz> you will have to start a new packaging branch and propose it
[18:37] <g0twig> ricotz: can we include software into the gnome 3 staging ppa, which does not even have a stable version yet?
[18:37] <ricotz> in case of those you might want to propose them to debian experimental which is already getting into shape with 3.10
[18:38] <g0twig> so, debian does care more about gnome than Ubuntu?
[18:38] <ricotz> if there is a released tarball it is fine to add those
[18:39] <ricotz> ubuntu sync packages from debian and to avoid double work it is better to propose such new packages directly to debian
[18:39] <ricotz> but of course we can add them to the ppa first too
[18:39] <g0twig> but debian packaging is supposed to be hardcore?
[18:39] <ricotz> huh?
[18:40] <g0twig> xD I dont know
[18:40] <g0twig> but the software on experimental is still outdated
[18:40] <g0twig> why so
[18:40] <g0twig> its version 3.8 lol
[18:40] <g0twig> not even 3.9
[18:40] <ricotz> push you packages to your own ppa and testbuild them
[18:41] <ricotz> *your
[18:41] <g0twig> ricotz: I just want to make sure I dont double the affords :X
[18:41] <ricotz> 3.9 packages are currently in svn
[18:41] <g0twig> maybe I look how to bring gnome-photos to a newer version
[18:41] <g0twig> ricotz: what do you mean with "svn"? not packaged yet?
[18:41] <g0twig> or not built yet
[18:42] <ricotz> g0twig, http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/
[18:43] <g0twig_> sry, epiphany crashed
[18:44] <ricotz> so if there is no ubuntu specific packaging this is what you want to base your new package on
[18:44] <g0twig_> btw. epiphany is also outdated in staging ppa, the private mode is broken
 g0twig, http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/
[18:44] <g0twig_> thx
[18:45] <ricotz> as said propose a diff of "debian/*" of your working package and someone will look at it
[18:46] <g0twig_> they dont even use git ;X
[18:49] <jbicha> I think the Debian GNOME team are interested in switching to git but no one's volunteered to do the conversion without losing history - they maintain over 250 packages
[18:49] <jbicha> it's just a lot of work
[18:49] <jbicha> they also seem open to using dh7 now instead of cdbs
[18:50] <g0twig_> how can I get that branch
[18:50] <g0twig_> sry for being an idiot
[18:50] <g0twig_> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/gnome-photos/debian/
[18:54] <jbicha> svn co svn://anonscm.debian.org/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/gnome-photos/
[18:54] <g0twig_> thx
[19:10] <g0twig_> so I reused this src package , and was able to compile a version based on 3.9.4
[19:10] <g0twig_> just added one new dependency
[19:12] <g0twig_> oh god.. gnome-photos is so slow
[19:12] <g0twig_> but it sort of works
[19:35] <bjsnider> oh, well that's good
[19:37] <bjsnider> doesn't work for me. launches but nothing's in it and no way to add anything
[19:37] <bjsnider> that being 3.8.2 in raring
[20:46] <g0twig_> bjsnider: so you used the original package from the gnome 3 repo?
[20:46] <bjsnider> yep
[21:04] <darkxst> jbicha, morning
[21:05] <siwica> I am trying to install Ubuntu GNOME (latest stable version). After inserting my LIve CD and clicking "Install" I have waited fot about 20 min so far but only see a blue screen with no progress bar and only my mouse pointer. Is that supposed to be that way?!
[21:06] <darkxst> the two main things I can think of are OSD's and power stuff
[21:08] <jbicha> darkxst: do you want to add some comments to the bug then? I wasn't sure which features and bugfixes were the most important from the NEWS file
[21:09] <darkxst> jbicha, sure will do in a bit
[21:10] <darkxst> I suspect there will also be a lot of bugs in gnome-shell caused by the old g-s-d
[21:10] <darkxst> but I never really tested that
[21:11] <darkxst> things like keygrabber
[21:11] <darkxst> should be rather broken
[21:13] <darkxst> input switching possibly broken also?
[21:14] <darkxst> basically anything that was offloaded into shell/mutter etc is likely to be buggy