[19:47] <linuxtech> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks implies that a cloak of the form "other/cloak/ubuntu.nickname" would not be a Official Ubuntu Community Member.   Can I get one of those cloaks without being a member?
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> linuxtech:  that's still an official  "ubuntu member" cloak for all intents and purposes
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> linuxtech:  so unless you're an Ubuntu member that cloak's not available to you.  All the cloak formats listed there are ubuntu cloaks.  All except the bot one i've seen on members.
[19:50] <linuxtech> OK Thanks, I guess I will have to wait until I go through the process of becoming a member.
[19:50] <linuxtech> Or get one from someplace else like freenode or prgmr.com.
[19:52] <Fuchs> you can get an unaffiliated one from #freenode
[19:53] <Fuchs> the above mentioned format is a dual cloak, they are highly discouraged and usually not given anymore. And in addition to that, to get the ubuntu part one still has to be a member.
[19:54] <TheLordOfTime> ^ that
[19:56] <linuxtech> I am kind of dubious about the benefits of a cloak as it is security through obscurity.  And it's not like I am hiding who I am my hostname as cp.linuxtech.org...  I look at the cloak as more of an advertisement of I support the project.
[19:56] <Fuchs> It is not security at all
[19:56] <Fuchs> and cloaks are never advertised by freenode staff as that
[19:57] <Fuchs> they are here to show affiliation (or lack thereof) with a group / project
[20:04] <TheLordOfTime> exactly, they don't have any "security" benefits really, at all.
[20:05] <Unit193> I think the one they say is more for security is connecting over tor.
[20:06] <Fuchs> yes.
[20:07] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[20:07] <Fuchs> (which, funny sidenote, applies a gateway cloak)
[20:08] <Unit193> tor-sasl, iirc.
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> gateway/tor-sasl/NICKSERV
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> where NICKSERV is the nickserv account primary nick
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> (in my case, that would be "lordoftime")