[19:27] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:16] <olly_> morning
[20:25] <ajmitch> morning
[20:32] <snail> morning
[20:50] <mwhudson> morning
[20:50] <thomi> mwhudson: coming to kiwi pycon this year?
[20:50] <mwhudson> thomi: yes
[20:50] <thomi> speaking?
[20:50] <mwhudson> i will be taking pictures on saturday morning again :)
[20:50] <mwhudson> no
[20:50] <thomi> ahh, cool
[20:51] <thomi> I'm looking forward to it!
[20:51] <mwhudson> yeah, me too
[20:51] <thomi> I have to shave 10 minutes off my talk somehow
[20:51]  * mwhudson has been on the organizers list all year and very unhelpful :(
[20:51] <thomi> heh
[20:52] <thomi> it turns out it takes about a year after organising kiwi pycon 2012 before one starts to think "that wasn't so bad, maybe I could do it again one day"
[20:53] <ajmitch> thomi: not sure if brave or foolish
[20:53] <thomi> terminally stupid, probably
[20:53] <mwhudson> thomi: :)
[20:54] <mwhudson> i burnt out most of my conference organizing energy on europython
[20:55] <thomi> anyway, I need to finish some personal projects this year
[20:55]  * thomi measures year cycles starting and ending at kiwipycon
[20:56] <ajmitch> thomi: you'd have to make it more awesome than every previous one
[20:56] <thomi> ajmitch: I still think each city should do 2 years running, like other pycons
[20:57] <thomi> you learn so much doing the first one, and then don't get a chance to implement those ideas a second time around
[20:59] <olly_> the same team should be forced to run it again and again until they get it exactly right - then it can move to a new city
[21:00] <thomi> hah
[21:01] <mwhudson> :)
[21:02] <mwhudson> someone in a leather jacket should arrive at someone's house, gestapo style, at 4am and tell them they're organizing kiwipycon this year
[21:03] <thomi> the final session in each kiwi pycon should be a ghameshow, "weakest link" style, with random audience members who are hauled up in front of everyone. Whoever looses the game is the conference director for the next year
[21:03] <mwhudson> +1
[21:05] <mwhudson> thomi: going to codewars?
[21:05] <mwhudson> i guess i should find a teammate or two if i want to compete...
[21:05] <thomi> mwhudson: not sure whaat I'm doing on the Friday. I had hoped to get into one of the tutorials, but it seems they're all full now
[21:05] <mwhudson> yeah, they filled up v quickly
[21:06] <thomi> I've never even been to a codewars before, not sure what to expect
[21:06] <mwhudson> codewars is later though, 6pm on or so
[21:06] <mwhudson> me neither!
[21:06] <thomi> how many to a team?
[21:06] <mwhudson> 2-3
[21:06] <mwhudson> http://nz.pycon.org/events/codewars/
[21:07] <ibeardslee> LCA has a 'ghosts' concept where previous organisers are involved with advising upcoming organising teams
[21:07] <mwhudson> ibeardslee: i saw fmarier after lca wellington, 'ghost' sounds about right
[21:07] <thomi> ibeardslee: yeah, that's what I had in mind
[21:08] <ibeardslee> it certainly isn't "your turn, see you there"
[22:19] <chilts> morning ... wow, I'm late
[22:19] <chilts> there's been activity
[22:24] <thumper> morning
[22:26] <ajmitch> chilts: yeah sorry, we should have told them to stop interrupting the mornings
[22:38] <chilts> shocking behaviour
[22:39] <hads> morning