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Darkwingskellat, Unit193 I can toss Kubuntu on my laptop and bring it to OLF if you need another laptop...00:00
DarkwingI will be there on Saturday.00:00
Unit193I'm supposed to know something? :P00:00
Darkwing:P00:01
DarkwingHow are things?00:01
Unit193(Thinking I won't be able to)  Not too bad, about to head out.00:01
DarkwingSweet. :)00:01
skellatDarkwing: See you Saturday then.  Too bad you'll miss the fun on Friday.  SEE: http://ohiolinux.org/friday00:04
jenni[ Friday Schedule - Ohio LinuxFest 2013 | Ohio LinuxFest 2013 ] - https://j.mp/RI5vzK00:04
* skellat counts the days until he needs to ponder the NMU process or talking to an FTP assistant about this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=71210200:08
jenni[ #712102 - Plugin no longer functions with Twitter or Identica - Debian Bug report logs ] - https://j.mp/17xBg4o00:08
Unit193Darkwing: Yes, it was verey sweet. \o/02:11
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Darkwingskellat: so, Ubucon is Friday only? I would but, My wife has to work on Friday so, :/16:03
skellatDarkwing: Yep.  We'll still be glad to see you on Saturday, though.16:05
Darkwingskellat: Do you need another laptop with either ubuntu or Kubuntu?16:25
Darkwingor xubuntu or lubuntu or, anything.16:25
skellatDarkwing: Kubuntu is best.  I've got Xubuntu covered.16:35
gilbertpaultag: don't take that new queue whining personally.  its one silly broken perspective.  the silent masses love you!17:36
paultaggilbert: ♥17:36
paultagI have thick skin, but plessy is really just trying to grind me every chance he gets, this is the 3ed -devel topic about my actions he's postede17:37
paultagposted*17:37
paultagit's getting tiresome to have to correct his errors17:37
gilberthis activity seems mostly about whining rather than constructive thinking17:38
gilbertanyway, i tend to ignore his mails17:38
paultagI'm starting to get there17:38
gilbertotherwise, how goes it???17:39
gilberthaven't chatted in a while...17:39
paultagNot bad, not bad! Bummed i'll not be at OLF17:39
paultagI miss everyone tons (I've been busy the last month or so)17:39
gilbertoh, that's too bad :(17:39
paultaggilbert: how's the married life?17:39
gilbertsunlight?17:39
paultagsunlight is killer, doing some municipal work17:39
gilbertreally good, but frustrating at times17:39
paultagOh yeah, and real life17:39
paultaghelping Mako move out and stuff17:39
paultaggilbert: Well good (except when it's not, but I'm sure it's still OK even then :) )17:40
gilberthaha, yeah.  its just different having to take someone else into account whenever i do anything17:40
gilberti get in trouble way too often for too much computer time :(17:41
paultaghahahaha17:41
paultagd'awww17:41
paultaggilbert: Have you found a job (yet, I don't seem to remember, doing the professor thing, Doc?)17:42
gilbertactually, i'm putting off the real job thing, but i may go into teaching at some point.  i'm more about getting my business off the ground right now17:43
paultagOh, right!17:43
gilbertso, that's actually a lot of work, and a different learning experience17:45
paultagyeah, I can imagine17:57
paultagso much to keep track of17:57
gilbertpaultag: have you messed around with polly?17:59
gilbert(the clang plugin)17:59
paultagI've not, let's see here17:59
paultagWarning: Even though this example makes it very easy to use Polly, you should be aware that Polly is a young research project. It is expected to crash, produce invalid code or to hang in complex calculations even for simple examples. In case you see such a problem, please check the Bug database and consider reporting a bug.18:00
paultag(awesome)18:00
paultagOh dude, this is badass18:00
gilbertthere is that...18:00
paultaggilbert: does it seem to work alright?18:00
gilbertdon't know, just started looking at it today18:00
gilbertthe whole concept of automated parallel code just seems awesome18:00
paultagYeah, this is pretty thrilling18:00
paultagI kinda want to try this out18:01
gilbert(i really wish tar could run in parallel)18:02
paultagYeah, humm18:03
paultagI mean, it is just IO bound18:03
paultagI wonder how hard that'd be.18:03
paultagjust write out segments by working out the file sized / places beforehand, issue a bunch of reads, and write back as you get data18:03
paultagthat'd be insane18:04
gilbertyeah18:04
gilbertso, i meant the whole compression+tar stack, where compress/decompress is the cpu bound task18:04
paultagOh, aye18:04
gilberti get frustrated that chromium source takes almost 5 minutes to decompress :(18:05
paultagOh jeez, that's right18:05
paultagI keep forgetting you work on all the hard shit in Debian (wine, chrome)18:05
gilbertand it doesn't matter how many cpus i throw at it18:05
gilbertyeah, pretty much...18:05
paultagis it bzip or gzip?18:06
gilbertxz18:06
paultaghummm18:06
paultagwhat's the block size?18:06
paultagsmall enough.18:06
paultagHummm.18:06
paultagI bet you could hack the uncompressor to just split at block sizes, which would be pretty clean18:07
paultagat worst you have nthreads - 1 blocks in memory18:07
gilbertjust found pxz, which could be interesting :)18:08
paultagOohhhhhh, interesting!18:08
paultagHumm, they only talk about compression18:09
paultagI wonder if it's also decompressioon18:09
paultagOh! and h0lger maintains it18:09
paultagneato18:09
gilbertthere is also pixz18:09
paultagsweet18:09
paultag(and bremnersoft!)18:09
paultagwhy do all my friends maintain xz packages? :)18:09
gilbertb/c xz is the latest hottness :)18:10
paultag:)18:10
gilbertbtw, have you noticed apt-listdifferences in the new queue?18:12
paultaggilbert: I've not yet, need it through>18:12
paultag?*18:12
paultagoh snap, this looks neat18:13
gilberti would of course like it to go through, but don't feel obligated to put it before anything else :)18:13
paultaggilbert: It's marked for ACCEPT. It's super small. I just opened it to check it out and ended up doing a full review :)18:13
gilbertawesome!18:14
paultagI want to use it, too, looks neat18:14
gilbertyou're the best paultag :)18:14
paultagd'aww18:14
gilbertyeah, i've been using it for weeks now to actually review changes going in, and its super useful.  especially for security review18:14
paultagtotally18:14
gilbertalthough autotools cruft makes some stuff entirely unreviewable18:15
paultagYeah, although it's pretty easyish to write stuff that'd filter out known noise18:15
paultagor use "filters" (debian/* only mode, upstream only mode, no-autotools mode)18:16
paultagvia piping it through something18:16
gilbertits on my TODO list :)18:18
paultag:D18:18
gilberti wish there was a policy against automatically generated code in source packages18:19
paultagI mean, yeah. There sorta is18:19
paultagtechnially it's not allowed, but sometimes it's let through when it causes too much work to strip it out18:19
paultagat the very least, 100% of the source needs to be there18:20
paultag(it's tough to enforce on .pngs, .jpgs, .wavs, etc)18:20
paultagbut we try (even pdfs)18:20
paultagbut yeah, die, autotools, die18:20
gilberthehe :)18:21
paultagalright, time to go hang out with my dad for the rest of the day18:24
paultag18:24
gilbertlater paultag :)18:24
paultaggilbert: thanks again for the words of support :)18:24
paultago/18:24
gilberthey no problem18:24
gilbertyour email seemed kind of down, so i wanted to help out18:24
Unit193o/18:25
skellatThe things I miss while I'm dealing with a vacuum cleaner that broke down because of its thermal cut-out activating19:07

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