[00:00] <Darkwing> skellat, Unit193 I can toss Kubuntu on my laptop and bring it to OLF if you need another laptop...
[00:00] <Darkwing> I will be there on Saturday.
[00:00] <Unit193> I'm supposed to know something? :P
[00:01] <Darkwing> :P
[00:01] <Darkwing> How are things?
[00:01] <Unit193> (Thinking I won't be able to)  Not too bad, about to head out.
[00:01] <Darkwing> Sweet. :)
[00:04] <skellat> Darkwing: See you Saturday then.  Too bad you'll miss the fun on Friday.  SEE: http://ohiolinux.org/friday
[00:04] <jenni> [ Friday Schedule - Ohio LinuxFest 2013 | Ohio LinuxFest 2013 ] - https://j.mp/RI5vzK
[00:08]  * skellat counts the days until he needs to ponder the NMU process or talking to an FTP assistant about this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=712102
[00:08] <jenni> [ #712102 - Plugin no longer functions with Twitter or Identica - Debian Bug report logs ] - https://j.mp/17xBg4o
[02:11] <Unit193> Darkwing: Yes, it was verey sweet. \o/
[16:03] <Darkwing> skellat: so, Ubucon is Friday only? I would but, My wife has to work on Friday so, :/
[16:05] <skellat> Darkwing: Yep.  We'll still be glad to see you on Saturday, though.
[16:25] <Darkwing> skellat: Do you need another laptop with either ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[16:25] <Darkwing> or xubuntu or lubuntu or, anything.
[16:35] <skellat> Darkwing: Kubuntu is best.  I've got Xubuntu covered.
[17:36] <gilbert> paultag: don't take that new queue whining personally.  its one silly broken perspective.  the silent masses love you!
[17:36] <paultag> gilbert: ♥
[17:37] <paultag> I have thick skin, but plessy is really just trying to grind me every chance he gets, this is the 3ed -devel topic about my actions he's postede
[17:37] <paultag> posted*
[17:37] <paultag> it's getting tiresome to have to correct his errors
[17:38] <gilbert> his activity seems mostly about whining rather than constructive thinking
[17:38] <gilbert> anyway, i tend to ignore his mails
[17:38] <paultag> I'm starting to get there
[17:39] <gilbert> otherwise, how goes it???
[17:39] <gilbert> haven't chatted in a while...
[17:39] <paultag> Not bad, not bad! Bummed i'll not be at OLF
[17:39] <paultag> I miss everyone tons (I've been busy the last month or so)
[17:39] <gilbert> oh, that's too bad :(
[17:39] <paultag> gilbert: how's the married life?
[17:39] <gilbert> sunlight?
[17:39] <paultag> sunlight is killer, doing some municipal work
[17:39] <gilbert> really good, but frustrating at times
[17:39] <paultag> Oh yeah, and real life
[17:39] <paultag> helping Mako move out and stuff
[17:40] <paultag> gilbert: Well good (except when it's not, but I'm sure it's still OK even then :) )
[17:40] <gilbert> haha, yeah.  its just different having to take someone else into account whenever i do anything
[17:41] <gilbert> i get in trouble way too often for too much computer time :(
[17:41] <paultag> hahahaha
[17:41] <paultag> d'awww
[17:42] <paultag> gilbert: Have you found a job (yet, I don't seem to remember, doing the professor thing, Doc?)
[17:43] <gilbert> actually, i'm putting off the real job thing, but i may go into teaching at some point.  i'm more about getting my business off the ground right now
[17:43] <paultag> Oh, right!
[17:45] <gilbert> so, that's actually a lot of work, and a different learning experience
[17:57] <paultag> yeah, I can imagine
[17:57] <paultag> so much to keep track of
[17:59] <gilbert> paultag: have you messed around with polly?
[17:59] <gilbert> (the clang plugin)
[17:59] <paultag> I've not, let's see here
[18:00] <paultag> Warning: Even though this example makes it very easy to use Polly, you should be aware that Polly is a young research project. It is expected to crash, produce invalid code or to hang in complex calculations even for simple examples. In case you see such a problem, please check the Bug database and consider reporting a bug.
[18:00] <paultag> (awesome)
[18:00] <paultag> Oh dude, this is badass
[18:00] <gilbert> there is that...
[18:00] <paultag> gilbert: does it seem to work alright?
[18:00] <gilbert> don't know, just started looking at it today
[18:00] <gilbert> the whole concept of automated parallel code just seems awesome
[18:00] <paultag> Yeah, this is pretty thrilling
[18:01] <paultag> I kinda want to try this out
[18:02] <gilbert> (i really wish tar could run in parallel)
[18:03] <paultag> Yeah, humm
[18:03] <paultag> I mean, it is just IO bound
[18:03] <paultag> I wonder how hard that'd be.
[18:03] <paultag> just write out segments by working out the file sized / places beforehand, issue a bunch of reads, and write back as you get data
[18:04] <paultag> that'd be insane
[18:04] <gilbert> yeah
[18:04] <gilbert> so, i meant the whole compression+tar stack, where compress/decompress is the cpu bound task
[18:04] <paultag> Oh, aye
[18:05] <gilbert> i get frustrated that chromium source takes almost 5 minutes to decompress :(
[18:05] <paultag> Oh jeez, that's right
[18:05] <paultag> I keep forgetting you work on all the hard shit in Debian (wine, chrome)
[18:05] <gilbert> and it doesn't matter how many cpus i throw at it
[18:05] <gilbert> yeah, pretty much...
[18:06] <paultag> is it bzip or gzip?
[18:06] <gilbert> xz
[18:06] <paultag> hummm
[18:06] <paultag> what's the block size?
[18:06] <paultag> small enough.
[18:06] <paultag> Hummm.
[18:07] <paultag> I bet you could hack the uncompressor to just split at block sizes, which would be pretty clean
[18:07] <paultag> at worst you have nthreads - 1 blocks in memory
[18:08] <gilbert> just found pxz, which could be interesting :)
[18:08] <paultag> Oohhhhhh, interesting!
[18:09] <paultag> Humm, they only talk about compression
[18:09] <paultag> I wonder if it's also decompressioon
[18:09] <paultag> Oh! and h0lger maintains it
[18:09] <paultag> neato
[18:09] <gilbert> there is also pixz
[18:09] <paultag> sweet
[18:09] <paultag> (and bremnersoft!)
[18:09] <paultag> why do all my friends maintain xz packages? :)
[18:10] <gilbert> b/c xz is the latest hottness :)
[18:10] <paultag> :)
[18:12] <gilbert> btw, have you noticed apt-listdifferences in the new queue?
[18:12] <paultag> gilbert: I've not yet, need it through>
[18:12] <paultag> ?*
[18:13] <paultag> oh snap, this looks neat
[18:13] <gilbert> i would of course like it to go through, but don't feel obligated to put it before anything else :)
[18:13] <paultag> gilbert: It's marked for ACCEPT. It's super small. I just opened it to check it out and ended up doing a full review :)
[18:14] <gilbert> awesome!
[18:14] <paultag> I want to use it, too, looks neat
[18:14] <gilbert> you're the best paultag :)
[18:14] <paultag> d'aww
[18:14] <gilbert> yeah, i've been using it for weeks now to actually review changes going in, and its super useful.  especially for security review
[18:14] <paultag> totally
[18:15] <gilbert> although autotools cruft makes some stuff entirely unreviewable
[18:15] <paultag> Yeah, although it's pretty easyish to write stuff that'd filter out known noise
[18:16] <paultag> or use "filters" (debian/* only mode, upstream only mode, no-autotools mode)
[18:16] <paultag> via piping it through something
[18:18] <gilbert> its on my TODO list :)
[18:18] <paultag> :D
[18:19] <gilbert> i wish there was a policy against automatically generated code in source packages
[18:19] <paultag> I mean, yeah. There sorta is
[18:19] <paultag> technially it's not allowed, but sometimes it's let through when it causes too much work to strip it out
[18:20] <paultag> at the very least, 100% of the source needs to be there
[18:20] <paultag> (it's tough to enforce on .pngs, .jpgs, .wavs, etc)
[18:20] <paultag> but we try (even pdfs)
[18:20] <paultag> but yeah, die, autotools, die
[18:21] <gilbert> hehe :)
[18:24] <paultag> alright, time to go hang out with my dad for the rest of the day
[18:24] <paultag> ♥
[18:24] <gilbert> later paultag :)
[18:24] <paultag> gilbert: thanks again for the words of support :)
[18:24] <paultag> o/
[18:24] <gilbert> hey no problem
[18:24] <gilbert> your email seemed kind of down, so i wanted to help out
[18:25] <Unit193> o/
[19:07] <skellat> The things I miss while I'm dealing with a vacuum cleaner that broke down because of its thermal cut-out activating