[05:34] morning [06:05] morning all [06:19] morning [06:24] morning DeonP psychicist [06:25] DeonP, have you contacted your service provider, maybe they got something stopping you getting setup [06:28] morning Kilos [06:28] or maybe resovconf [06:28] resolvconf [06:29] i remember something about a conflick somewhere when doing ssh [06:29] conflict [06:32] i have, waiting for call [06:32] ah [07:00] hiya maiatoday [07:00] hi tonberry352_ [07:21] morning peeps [07:21] oh DeonP also mail our list with the prob [07:21] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:21] lots more clever peeps on our lists [07:22] morning superfly [07:23] hi Kilos [07:23] HawkiesZA says hi too [07:23] ah ty tell him howsit [07:42] i posted my problem an askubuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/340325/problem-connecting-to-isp-server-using-xl2tpd-as-client-ubuntu-server-13-04 [07:42] lets see what comes back [08:04] Morning everyone [08:07] hi barrydk === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [08:08] Good morning Kilos and everyone [08:09] Kilos, what was the name and mod of that router we talked about? [08:10] oh my [08:10] the one i have? [08:10] or the one you wanna try get [08:10] think so is it a 220 (something) its all i remember [08:10] sjoe [08:11] Or how can i go back to last weeks posts? [08:11] you should try get one like the pros one. it can take a plugin ext antenna [08:12] think it was that one [08:12] i can never find the logs, always have to ask here [08:13] http://www.irclog.org/ircnetwork/freenode.html [08:13] see if that helps [08:18] That logs addy in the topic works nice [08:18] hi mazal [08:19] Lo oom [08:19] Ish looks like hard work where is the pro [08:19] lekker gerus? [08:19] "gerus" is 'n relatiewe term oom hehehe. Maar dit was lekker ja dankie [08:20] he has been so busy lately only pops in at night [08:23] hi smile [08:23] hi Kilos :D [08:23] how are you? :) [08:24] good ty and you? [08:24] :) :-) [08:24] thats my smileys for the week [08:25] hi Kilos [08:25] hi smile [08:25] hi ma [08:25] mazal [08:25] Kilos: only two? :) [08:25] hi psyatw [08:25] I'm fine too :D [08:26] ya man smileys are hard work for me [08:26] My laptop is working now :) [08:26] :DD [08:26] yay [08:26] Runnin' Mint + Windows 7 [08:26] You know UEFI, Kilos? :) [08:26] ? [08:27] is that the thing thats replacing mbr [08:27] It's the successor of BIOS :) [08:27] guid [08:27] UEFI+GPT = BIOS+MBR [08:27] ;) [08:27] ah [08:27] GPT = GUID Partition Table [08:27] :) [08:28] UEFI quite sucks at the moment ;) [08:28] I just erased my whole hard disk on the laptop and reinstalled everything again in legacy mode [08:28] At least Linux boots now :) [08:29] i had to remove it once and put mbr back [08:29] That's what I did [08:29] ;) [08:29] too much to remember [08:29] and we trying to learn LPI [08:30] Linux Professional Institute ? :) [08:30] you can join #linux-studies [08:30] we gonna have a class on friday evenings [08:32] http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/sites/default/files/LPIManual_v_09.pdf\ [08:32] no back slash [08:32] fingers too fat [08:33] Kilos: I see :D [08:33] * smile looks at the PDF [08:34] Heavy PDF :D [08:35] lots to learn [08:39] Yeah, it's basically a free book [08:39] :) [08:41] Kilos: what's evening? ;) [08:41] 23:00? ;) [08:43] 19.30 about [08:44] but peeps pop in and out all the time [08:47] :D [08:47] okay :) [09:03] hi Kilos [09:31] hi Tinuva wb [09:31] thx [09:32] you work for an isp hey? [09:32] sorry for forgetting [09:33] yeah [09:34] not mtn by chance [09:34] no [09:34] hehe we have one guy battling a bit [09:35] mtn you get things fixed only one way [09:35] you start emailing them on a daily basis on what you need to get fixed [09:35] haha yeah thats what i did before i found 8ta [09:35] then after a month, you track down who the personal assistants are of the managers, email them on a daily basis, they will then make sure it gets sorted out so that you can stop spamming them [09:35] same with voda [09:36] also hassle them on twitter too [10:41] afternoon [10:41] hi Squirm [11:03] Maaz seen Maiatoday [11:03] zerlgi: Maiatoday was last seen 2 hours and 31 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-09-02 11:03:00 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-09-02 12:32:23 SAST [11:13] HI Kilos [11:13] hi zerlgi howit? [11:13] Hi. Good tx [11:47] why would one want to fiddle with runlevels? [11:48] Only time I use it is when I need to force a restart [11:48] Then I iniate level 6 [11:48] Other than that I never fiddle with it [11:49] ah [11:53] I use runlevels when rescueing systems. boot into runlevel 1 [11:53] then instead of rebooting (because servers take up to 15 mins to run through their hardware checks) [11:53] ... I init 3 or 5 (whichever is relevent) [12:35] goodbye for now folks. [12:42] Buy guys [12:51] Bye everyone , have a good evening [14:28] hmm... [14:51] things are getting too good. no one needs help anymore [14:52] ThatGraemeGuy, you still gotta do the late avy sorting [14:53] the what now? o_O [14:53] others already on thier way home or nearly [14:53] till 6 pm [14:53] sysadmin stuff [14:53] i'm trying to make sense of your sentence [14:53] haha [14:54] well like the pro says when others go home the sysadmin starts working [14:54] uh [14:54] m0orning inetpro [14:54] oo [14:54] goeie more oom [14:54] morning [14:54] oh [14:55] hoe't jy geweet ek het nou eers wakker geword? [14:55] haha [14:55] i think you should read what you said again... my brain is not able to parse it :P [14:55] spioene [14:55] yeah i dunno why it came out like that [14:56] meant the sorting of other peeps day before you knock off [15:08] i also meant are they still keeping you till 6 for these last coupla weeks [15:27] oh [15:27] hi Vince-0 [15:27] they don't "keep" me til 6, my normal hours are 9.30 til 6 [15:28] ahya [15:28] it works out well for me with the kids' routine and the traffic patterns [15:28] aha too [15:28] im not parsing to well today seems like [15:28] hi Snowy2 [15:28] new job is only 10km from home so traffic not really much of a concern at all [15:28] great [16:00] so I have 2 MB of ram free... [16:00] Anything that uses less ram than vi? [16:02] nano? [16:03] ah there we go. arounk 300 KB less [16:03] I'm not sure if I should run a webserver + mailserver on 128 MB RAM... [16:04] OS? [16:04] think wordpress will run in 3 MB? [16:04] ubuntu server [16:06] does sh use less ram than bash? ....... [16:09] sh is bash [16:10] I thought bash had more features? [16:11] sh is a specification [16:11] ah ok [16:11] Well which binary uses less ram? [16:11] bash is the implementation [16:11] ok [16:13] got 24 MB free now. [16:13] After a reboot [16:14] are you running a minimal install? [16:17] good day everyone [16:17] surp [16:18] theblazehen: I have ubuntu with lxde running on my arm tablet and it uses 116MB RAM idle [16:19] Vince-0, ah ok [16:20] at install mine used less than 28 MB [16:20] then i installed lamp-server and mail-server [16:22] you could try a smaller web and mail server [16:22] sorry guys I need a little bit of help please....with kde [16:23] I did an upgrade and it removed all panels from off the desktop, how do I get them back, right click doesn't help.! [16:23] I have to open all programs with the terminal... [16:23] Vince-0, good idea [16:25] im just googling [16:25] WOLFEYES: try restoring default KDE settings? Is there any GUI [16:25] Theres nothing [16:26] maybe I can open it with terminal but I do not know how [16:26] how do you open a konsole [16:26] Cntrl + Alt +T [16:26] ah [16:26] those are the keys for unity [16:26] whew [16:27] WOLFEYES: are you using Kubuntu? [16:27] yes sir [16:27] http://askubuntu.com/questions/109530/how-do-i-restore-my-kde-desktop-to-default [16:28] ill go see WOLFEYES [16:29] mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4.old [16:29] If your KDE settings are broken, mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4.old [16:29] log back in [16:31] whew that sucks [16:31] wb [16:31] heya guys me again [16:31] what happened [16:31] I lost the window [16:32] couldntminimize firefox [16:32] http://slexy.org/view/s21mkxQyH1 [16:33] Vince-0, its WOLFEYES again [16:33] nods [16:33] brb trying to find the other windows [16:34] Vince-0, he is my son [16:34] oh haai [16:35] wont installing kdm sort that prob? [16:36] hi psychicist [16:37] hi Kilos [16:37] ok I found it [16:37] to remove Plasma settings: kquitapp plasma; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma [16:38] had to close firefox [16:38] WOLFEYES: that will delete everything for Plasma and a relog will recreate default settings [16:39] but did you see what it said in slexy [16:39] but let me try log off and on. [16:41] anyone here on cellc internet? Can you upload more than 1MB over tcp? [16:43] something forcefully kills my tcp connections if I go over that [16:49] looks like he killed it Vince-0 [16:52] ow, that'd be me killing it too [16:53] lol [16:53] i wonder what went wrong with the upgrade [16:55] what's the problem now? [16:55] ? [16:55] he dont seem to be able to boot [16:56] lets hope he just went shopping and the pc is fine [16:59] ow, booting won't be affected by KDE settings [16:59] maybe black screen so he sees nothing [17:00] maybe those other things you turn off [17:00] alt+shift+f12 bypasses it [17:01] im just gonna boot into kde [17:01] wbb [17:02] still nothing [17:02] what upgrade broke it? [17:02] but I can open the system settings page [17:03] I have no clue [17:03] how do I check that [17:03] or how do I fix it [17:03] what did you do when it broke [17:05] tried to find the missing panel [17:05] nothing worked [17:05] so I tried the terminal [17:05] it worked [17:05] connected to the net [17:05] ok so broken panel [17:05] and cames here [17:05] seems that way [17:05] and pidgin too [17:06] what did the command string return: [17:06] kquitapp plasma; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma [17:06] I pasted it int he room [17:06] hold on I will fetch it [17:07] http://slexy.org/view/s21mkxQyH1 [17:07] that's the previous command [17:08] ok [17:08] let me reopen it in firefox [17:21] grrr === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [17:43] what did i miss Vince-0 . pc decided to auto reboot [17:45] nothin, *playing battlefield [17:45] hehe [17:57] good evening [17:58] hi magespawn [18:04] how is it going? [18:05] hi Kilos [18:05] hi magespawn [18:05] hi Vince-0 [18:13] grrr [18:17] haai [18:17] hi charl_ [18:30] sorry for the join/part peeps. pc keeps rebooting on its own [18:52] not much luck Kilos [18:53] your side mage? [18:54] installed and running, need to create a normal user [18:54] lol [18:55] i got mine going too, reinstalled [18:55] cool beans [18:55] but now need this pc to be online [18:55] other one keeps rebooting [18:55] grrr [18:59] strange, is not, maybe, over heating? [18:59] ? [18:59] trying another old psu [19:00] otherwise blow clean tomorrow [19:45] night all. sleep tight [19:45] good night Kilos- [19:46] good night all