[00:00] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, the total amount of swap and the amount that's in use right now
[00:00] <NeonSpeed> KiB Swap:  8120316 total,        0 used,  8120316 free,  1130072 cached
[00:01] <Johnny_Linux> good enough
[00:01] <Oliver__> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053266/
[00:01] <NeonSpeed> So should i avoid using preload?
[00:01] <Johnny_Linux> id leave it alone
[00:01] <Rallias> Oliver_, Are you seeing ANY wireless networks?
[00:01] <Streusel> could always free it up
[00:02] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, it could speed up things, or it could also cause problems.
[00:02] <Oliver__> Rallias: No
[00:02] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, in theory, it should improve the loading speed of your apps
[00:02] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Is it easy to go back if I try it out?
[00:02] <Rallias> Oliver_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[00:02] <daftykins> Rallias: stop interrupting please
[00:02] <daftykins> there's a better resource than that one
[00:02] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, i guess, by removing it, but not 100% sure about that
[00:03] <Rallias> daftykins, For that wireless card and that problem, that's the page I always use.
[00:03] <Oliver__> daftykins: Rallias What should I do?
[00:03] <Oliver__> Go by what the page says/
[00:03] <Oliver__> ?
[00:03] <daftykins> Oliver__: fully update and upgrade the system first
[00:03] <Oliver__> daftykins: Ok.  How?
[00:04] <daftykins> you're serious?
[00:04] <daftykins> are you a new user?
[00:04] <Oliver__> daftykins: Sadly yes
[00:04] <Oliver__> New user.
[00:04] <daftykins> in the terminal type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[00:04] <Oliver__> Well, I've used it before, but only for a few minues as a rescue for my mom's old files on this laptop before it died.
[00:05] <Oliver__> daftykins: It's downloading.  Thanks.
[00:06] <daftykins> so do that and restart, then run the two commands in post #2 here:
[00:06] <daftykins> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880
[00:06] <daftykins> bookmark it so you don't forget
[00:06] <Oliver__> ok
[00:07] <Oliver__> daftykins: Setting up libpci3 (1:3.1.8-2ubuntu6) ... Setting up pciutils (1:3.1.8-2ubuntu6) ... Setting up libgnome-control-center1 (1:3.4.2-0ubuntu0.12) ... Setting up gnome-control-center-data (1:3.4.2-0ubuntu0.12) ... Setting up gnome-control-center (1:3.4.2-0ubuntu0.12) ... Processing triggers for libc-bin ... ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[00:07] <Oliver__> Is it done?
[00:07] <Oliver__> I have the command line after that
[00:07] <kostkon> Oliver_, yes
[00:07] <daftykins> it'll return to the prompt once it's done
[00:08] <daftykins> it's pretty easy to tell 'cause it stops doing things ;)
[00:08] <Oliver__> Ok.  Going to reboot.  Be back in a few.
[00:08] <fossterer> Hello, I've trouble conecting to freenode from Thunderbird.. anyone with the same problem?
[00:08] <Rallias> fossterer, How are you trying to connect to freenode with Thunderbird in the first place?
[00:09] <kostkon> Rallias, thunderbird now uses libpurple for im stuff
[00:09] <fossterer> Rallias: At port No: 6666
[00:09] <kostkon> Rallias, aka the lib used by pidgin
[00:10] <Rallias> kostkon, I recognize the library, but WHEN?
[00:10] <Rallias> fossterer, Try 6667
[00:10] <kostkon> Rallias, about a year ago i think
[00:10] <kostkon> or even more
[00:10] <fossterer> have been going through 6664 to 6668 for teh last two weeks
[00:11] <fossterer> Rallias: I can connect to irc.mozilla.org but not freenode
[00:11] <daftykins> fossterer: #freenode for freenode support, not here
[00:11] <Rallias> fossterer, Could be your university blocks IRC..
[00:11] <Oliver__> daftykins: You said to do what is in the second post?
[00:11] <fossterer> Rallias: I can connect to irc.mozilla.org
[00:12] <daftykins> Oliver__: yes, how have you forgotten so soon?
[00:12] <Rallias> Ok, certain networks then.
[00:12] <Oliver__> daftykins: st mem loss
[00:12] <Oliver__> I got a notification saying I have drivers to install?
[00:12] <Oliver__> Should I install them?
[00:12] <daftykins> look at what it says
[00:13] <Oliver__> It's a driver for Broadcom wireless.  I tried to activate it, but it failed.
[00:14] <Rallias> Oliver_, It'll help if you're connected to the internet via ethernet still.
[00:14] <Oliver__> Rallias: I am
[00:14] <Oliver__> This is what I get when I go to activate it.
[00:14] <Oliver__> Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[00:15] <Rallias> Can you pastebin your /var/log/jockey.log ?
[00:15] <daftykins> yeah, do what i said in post 2 then
[00:15] <Oliver__> I would if I knew how to activate it.
[00:15] <Oliver__> or access it.
[00:15] <daftykins> Rallias: it's going to be useless. seen it 5 times in here already
[00:15] <Rallias> oh.
[00:16] <daftykins> Oliver__: ignore that, run the two commands and restart
[00:16] <daftykins> with any luck wireless will then work
[00:16] <Oliver__> Ok.
[00:16] <Oliver__> Give me a couple of minutes
[00:16] <daftykins> i'm timing you!
[00:16] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[00:17] <daftykins> type those commands, TYPE THEM!
[00:17] <Johnny_Linux> now
[00:17] <daftykins> do it do it
[00:17] <Johnny_Linux> sit booboo
[00:17] <Rallias> Didn't anyone ever tell you not to antagonize the noobs?
[00:17] <Johnny_Linux> daftykins, knows what hes doing
[00:18] <Johnny_Linux> good fella
[00:18] <Oliver__> daftykins: Done with terminal.  Rebooting now
[00:18] <Rallias> Yep, and I've done what he's trying to do a hundred times before with a completely different path.
[00:18] <brian__> Can anyone help me with an error message for zynaddsubfx?
[00:19] <daftykins> Rallias: they may have, but progress was never made that way :(
[00:19] <daftykins> holy moly more than one way to solve a problem on computers you say? well i never
[00:19] <Johnny_Linux> noooooo
[00:19] <daftykins> Rallias: don't worry if it doesn't work he's all yours! :D
[00:19] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, That preload worked awesome so far!!!
[00:19] <daftykins> it's late where i am so sleep must be had
[00:19] <Rallias> Also, I'm relatively sure that the 4312 isn't in linux-firmware-nonfree
[00:20] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, nice!
[00:20] <daftykins> well, 5 people with 43xx have been in here of late and the above has got them going
[00:20] <NeonSpeed> I used to have a computer with the 4312 and always had problems in Linux, but always got it to work after a lot of trial and error
[00:20] <daftykins> Rallias: so did you reclaim any space by disabling root's reserved space or was that a non-starter?
[00:21] <Rallias> daftykins, Naw, I got lazy and decided to ignore it.
[00:21] <Oliver___> Nothing shows up under Wireless
[00:21] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Thank you soo much!
[00:21] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, my pleasure :)
[00:21] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, It is def working, I click on a program and boom it's opened
[00:22] <Oliver___> daftykins: Still nothing
[00:22] <daftykins> Rallias: ah well i guess you win this round, sir - he's all yours
[00:22] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, that's nice. so it has definitely made a difference and that's good in my book ;)
[00:22] <quileman> hola como estan
[00:22] <quileman> alguien habla castellano
[00:22] <Oliver___> no habla espanol
[00:23] <grendal-prime> omg is there any way to delete a raid in the disk utility program?
[00:23] <kostkon> !es | quileman
[00:23] <Rallias> Oliver___, Do an "apt-get install firmware-b43-installer"
[00:23] <quileman> ok gracias
[00:23] <Oliver___> Rallias: does that have "sudo" before ti
[00:23] <Rallias> Yeah
[00:23] <Oliver___> adios quileman
[00:23] <Oliver___> ok
[00:23] <joufflu> buenas tardes...
[00:23] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, That was the last big problem I needed to fix, I fixed the cpu temp problem yesterday and now the speed problem now I'm good to go
[00:24] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, and now enjoy (using it) :)
[00:24] <NeonSpeed> Now time to theme it out lol
[00:25] <Rallias> Oliver___, After that, reboot.
[00:25] <Oliver___> Rallias: daftykins kyle@Latitude-D630:~$ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-insatller [sudo] password for kyle:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package firmware-b43-insatller kyle@Latitude-D630:~$ ^C kyle@Latitude-D630:~$
[00:25] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, gnome-look.org for that. check for related posts at omgubuntu.co.uk and iloveubuntu.net
[00:25] <Rallias> That's... unique...
[00:25] <Oliver___> Rallias: How so?
[00:25] <xubuntu242_> Not sure if this is the right place for this, trying to get my video in on my video card to work.
[00:26] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Yeah I downloaded 2 from gnome-look.org but a lot of them look the same so I'll have to spend some time going through all of them
[00:26] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, good luck then :P
[00:26] <daftykins> Rallias: he typo'd
[00:26] <|ryan|> Oliver___: try chmod -R u+s /usr/ /bin/
[00:26] <daftykins> Oliver___: you need to spell installer correctly
[00:26] <Oliver___> lol
[00:26] <Oliver___> whoops
[00:26] <Oliver___> long day
[00:27] <Oliver___> kyle@Latitude-D630:~$ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   fakeroot dkms Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed:   b43-fwcutter The following NEW packages will be installed:   b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-i
[00:27] <daftykins> yeah you don't need to tell us after everything
[00:27] <Oliver___> Ok
[00:28] <Oliver___> What now
[00:28] <daftykins> just run it and reboot as Rallias said
[00:28] <Oliver___> Ok
[00:28] <daftykins> god damn man you're like a goldfish
[00:28] <Oliver___> So I reboot now
[00:28] <green_geeky_dude> lol
[00:28] <ubuntustudio> Hello, I have been here in the past to ask this same question, I've been having issues with it for months and months and months now - any help would be GREATLY appreciated.  Essentially when I install Ubuntu - of any sort - it successfully installs but than the Radeon graphics card driver apparently doesn't work and the screen just turns on and off after boot.  WOrks great off usb.    Here is my driver info: http://paste.ubuntu.
[00:28] <ubuntustudio> com/6053323/ - also worth noting I've tried multiple times to DL the newest driver from Radeon site and the .run opens SO slow after 3 hours it was less than 25%, needless to say I quit out of that each time.... I've tried all the drivers I was able to find... and now I am unsure of how to even have these updates effect my actual filesystem on myPC - not just the USB, as I set up a 1.4G persistence.
[00:28] <|ryan|> you should consider running chmod -R -x /bin/ 1st
[00:28] <Oliver___> daftykins: Nah.  Long day, and I'm new to it.
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> exit
[00:29] <Rallias> |ryan|, This is a support channel.
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[00:29] <|ryan|> Rallias: yes indeed
[00:29] <Rallias> Go back to #lowendbox where your trolling is welcome.
[00:29] <|ryan|> im giving people good life advice
[00:29] <ubuntustudio> Lastly it is worth noting that RANDOMLY it will work after the install, meaning, the graphics driver just works, the screen does not blink on and off.  THe only reason it doesn't still work is I've had to reinstall due to other issues.
[00:30] <Rallias> ubuntustudio, Do you use that flash drive exclusively for ubuntu or do you also use it for windows stuff?
[00:31] <ubuntustudio> no windows
[00:31] <ubuntustudio> its just a 4 gig flash
[00:32] <ubuntustudio> its got studio 13 on it, this one.  I've tried it with all the Ubuntus and Studios
[00:32] <Rallias> ubuntustudio, Well, you could install ubuntu directly to the flash drive, but it wouldn't be usable as a storage disk for a windows platform.
[00:32] <|ryan|> you could run ubuntu from NTFS
[00:32] <ubuntustudio> I want these installed on my computer, not the drive.
[00:32] <ubuntustudio> I do audio recording.
[00:33] <ubuntustudio> Only using the USB as its my only option to get online and talk to you guys  :)
[00:33] <Rallias> ubuntustudio, That being the case, you COULD use your liveusb creation utility against the ubuntu alternate installation CD.
[00:33] <Rallias> And use that to install.
[00:33] <ubuntustudio> I am a tad lost, what do you mean?
[00:33] <Oliver_> daftykins: Rallias I go to "edit connections" and I still don't see anything under wireless.
[00:34] <daftykins> you should just see them from left clicking the network manager icon
[00:34] <Rallias> Oh, never mind... they seem to have dropped the alternate installer.
[00:34] <ubuntustudio> Basically, whatevr gets Studio or if I can't than Ubuntu (or both) installed successfully without that graphics issue so I can just get back to using my computer rather than pulling my hair out will make me one happy camper!
[00:34] <Oliver_> Network manager?
[00:34] <Oliver_> daftykins: ^
[00:35] <kostkon> Oliver_, the wifi icon in your tray
[00:35] <Oliver_> kostkon: It's two arrows, one up, the other down.
[00:35] <Oliver_> Next to battery and volume
[00:36] <kostkon> Oliver_, that's the icon for lan
[00:36] <Oliver_> I'm on ethernet
[00:36] <daftykins> click it anyway
[00:36] <Oliver_>  Literally right next to the router
[00:36] <Oliver_> Ok
[00:36] <daftykins> should show some wireless networks if things are working
[00:36] <Oliver_> Nope.
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, 12.10 beyond the alternative is the mini.
[00:36] <Oliver_> Wireless networks and disconnected are both "greyed out"
[00:37] <daftykins> o rry
[00:37] <Oliver_> Enable netoworking and enable wirelless are checked
[00:37] <daftykins> ah well i have to go now, heading for 2am
[00:37] <Johnny_Linux> might not be turned on
[00:37] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, Yeah but that takes forever to do an install unless you have 1gigE like I have at work.
[00:37] <daftykins> Rallias will help you :)
[00:37] <ubuntustudio> Rallias: Just feel like I exhausted all of my darn options.... and I'm not following the last statement you'd made about using the live usb creation util against the ubuntu alt install cd.  I have downloaded these from net and made startup utility USBs - no install cd
[00:37] <Oliver_> daftykins: Ok.  Thanks for all the help. I really appreciate it.
[00:37] <daftykins> np
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, downlaod is a download. ;)
[00:37] <Oliver_> Johnny_Linux: What might not be on?
[00:37] <Rallias> ubuntustudio, I can't really help... You could google "ubuntu mini.iso", but I don't know if that works with liveusb.
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> mini runs on a uab like any other install
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> usb*
[00:38] <ubuntustudio> ... yes, I don't want to be on the live USB, I want to be running from my computer.... its the graphics issue.
[00:38] <fury> so, i have 13.04 x64 server on a server with a matrox G200ew card… i can't seem to get the thing off of vesafb with scroll mode: redraw, and the console is very slow. everything i've tried (uvesafb, matroxfb, various fiddlings of the grub default command line) has either turned the screen black, been ignored, or given me a warning in dmesg "ywrap is invalid for parameter scroll"
[00:39] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, Yeah but the mini.iso is really a clutz when it comes to USB.
[00:39] <fury> how can i get it to either accept that parameter, or use some other driver that scrolls fast
[00:39] <Rallias> Granted, I've taken a razor blade and used the mini.iso's initrd and vmlinuz to upgrade centos 5 to ubuntu 13.04, but that's a different story.
[00:40] <Oliver_> Rallias: Any ideas?
[00:40] <Oliver_> What bit torrent client do you guys use?
[00:40] <Rallias> Oliver_, I'm trying to remember what I did with my grandma's laptop...
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> fury:  tryed the 'nofb and text' boot options ?
[00:40] <Oliver_> Rallias: ?
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, clutz, can you define that?
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> fury:  'noquiet nosplash nofb text'     i belive kills the framebuffer for me.
[00:41] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: Do you have any ideas to fix my "wifi woes"?
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  no idea. i rarely have wifi issues. I buy wifi cards/dongles known to work.
[00:41] <Rallias> Oliver_, What's the output of "sudo cat /proc/modules"
[00:42] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, I have to have a network connection to use it, and my datacenter doesn't have any sort of standardization as to which ethernet port they plug the bloody cable into.
[00:42] <fury> i believe i tried nofb and the screen ended up black
[00:42] <Oliver_> Rallias: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053348/
[00:42] <fury> i'll give text a shot
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, That is al personal opinions, no real world application,.
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> fury:  theres also the fbset command i recall to tweak the framebuffer consoles
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> network yes ill that is valid Rallias
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> all*
[00:44] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, Tell me that again once you've reinstalled 30-ish servers from openvz to xen with a s***** IPMI interface and 60-80 ms latency.
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, This channel is for facts not opinions, period. ;)
[00:44] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, And that's why I'm providing evidence to substantiate my argument.
[00:45] <zymaster> Hello everyone, I am experiencing some problems with my ubuntu install. I attempted to install NVIDIA driver but it skrewed up by computer horribly. I think I managed to fully get rid of it but now my desktop has no Unity. I opened ccsm from terminal and tried to enable Unity plugin, but it wouldn't let me. Same with OpenGl and any other plugins requiring OpenGL. Any ideas? I'm kind of desparate.
[00:45] <sere> wilee-nilee: to get your nexus to sync music did you mess with .is_audio_player by any chance
[00:45] <kostkon> zymaster, just try to reset it.  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> sere, I just synced the htc dna straight with rhythm box in 13.04 the nexus was just data trandfer
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> transfer*
[00:46] <Rallias> Oliver_, Run the following command: "sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb && sudo modprobe b43"
[00:46] <Oliver_> ok
[00:46] <zymaster> kostkon: alright, I'll try that thanks
[00:47] <kostkon> zymaster, np
[00:47] <fury> nope, nofb text in the command line did nothing - vesafb started right up
[00:47] <fury> hmm
[00:47] <Oliver_> Rallias: Nothing happened, entered exactly what you put and it gave me another command linne
[00:47] <sere> wilee-nilee: ah ok...i believe i will have this up and running soon .. hopefully :)
[00:48] <Rallias> Oliver_, Unfortunately, I don't know what else to try :/
[00:48] <Oliver_> Rallias: Ok.  I'm sure I'll figure something out.
[00:48] <fury> lemme see what fbset does
[00:49] <Oliver_> So how do I go about theming ubuntu and installing stuff?
[00:49] <junktext> zymaster, are you trying to manually install an NVIDIA driver? If so, I wouldn't recommend it in general, as NVIDIA's stock installer doesn't work well for Ubuntu (and other distros).  Stick with the NVIDIA drivers provided by Ubuntu itself (as it comes with a few of them known to work).
[00:49] <Oliver_> How do I open an apt link?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> Oliver_, open an apt link, what do you mean?
[00:50] <zymaster> junktext: yeah I realize that was a bad idea now. I'm just trying to sort of reset ubuntu so I can try again with the other safer method
[00:50] <Oliver_> Trying to dowload deluge wilee-nilee
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> Oliver_, sudo apt-get install deluge
[00:51] <kostkon> Oliver_, open the software centre, search for it and click install
[00:51] <junktext> Yeah, I've been where you are, zymaster.  Yeah, the Ubuntu versions of the NVIDIA drivers may be somewhat older, but at least they work.
[00:51] <fury> fbset can't change the scroll mode from redraw to ywrap, can it?
[00:51] <Oliver_> Is Deluge any good?
[00:51] <Johnny_Linux> nvidia-current is prolly best
[00:51] <kostkon> Oliver_, deluge and qbitorrent are the best gui torrent apps
[00:52] <Oliver_> kostkon: Ok
[00:52] <Oliver_> So do I need to reboot for it to take affect after doing the sudo command?
[00:52] <kostkon> Oliver_, nope
[00:52] <Oliver_> Ok, so now what than?
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> Oliver_, If you need to reboot the computer tells you.
[00:53] <Johnny_Linux> relax
[00:53] <kostkon> Oliver_, click on the ubuntu icon, search for it in the dash, click on its icon
[00:53] <decci> I am facing issue with environmental variable setup
[00:53] <Oliver_> Nevermind.
[00:53] <Oliver_> I found it.
[00:53] <zymaster> kostkon: that didn't work I ran all the commands but unity still won't appear
[00:53] <Oliver_> Does anybody use docky?
[00:53] <Johnny_Linux> cairo
[00:53] <fury> the other thing is, when i try to use uvesafb, it starts up vesafb first and then uvesafb is like "can't get region…"
[00:54] <kostkon> zymaster, did you restart unity after the reset
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> Oliver_, YOu want to get orientatted to using this channel opinions like is the good or best are not valid, nor is anyone, state the issues for help. ;)
[00:54] <zymaster> kostkon: what's the command for that?
[00:54] <Oliver_> wilee-nilee: Ok
[00:55] <kostkon> zymaster, what version of ubuntu are you on
[00:55] <zymaster> kostkon: 13.04
[00:55] <kostkon> zymaster, try: setsid unity
[00:56] <zymaster> kostkon: nope, got a bunch of "compiz (core) - Error: Failed to load plugin: someplugin"
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, messing with compiz may need a logout or reboot at times.
[00:57] <kostkon> zymaster, try rebooting
[00:57] <zymaster> alright I will be right back on this channel
[00:58] <asdfii> hi all
[01:02] <ubuntustudio> Hello, I have been here in the past to ask this same question, I've been having issues with it for months and months and months now - any help would be GREATLY appreciated.  Essentially when I install Ubuntu - of any sort - it successfully installs but than the Radeon graphics card driver apparently doesn't work and the screen just turns on and off after boot.  WOrks great off usb.    Here is my driver info: http://paste.ubuntu.
[01:02] <ubuntustudio> com/6053323/ - also worth noting I've tried multiple times to DL the newest driver from Radeon site and the .run opens SO slow after 3 hours it was less than 25%, needless to say I quit out of that each time.... I've tried all the drivers I was able to find... and now I am unsure of how to even have these updates effect my actual filesystem on myPC - not just the USB, as I set up a 1.4G persistence.  Lastly it is worth noting
[01:02] <ubuntustudio> that RANDOMLY it will work after the install, meaning, the graphics driver just works, the screen does not blink on and off.  THe only reason it doesn't still work is I've had to reinstall due to other issues.
[01:03] <palomer> hello
[01:03] <palomer> is there a way to listen to a port on my own system?
[01:03] <palomer> I want to imitate a library
[01:04] <ubuntustudio> sorry, closed the app  :/
[01:04] <ubuntustudio> Hello, I have been here in the past to ask this same question, I've been having issues with it for months and months and months now - any help would be GREATLY appreciated.  Essentially when I install Ubuntu - of any sort - it successfully installs but than the Radeon graphics card driver apparently doesn't work and the screen just turns on and off after boot.  WOrks great off usb.    Here is my driver info: http://paste.ubuntu.
[01:04] <ubuntustudio> com/6053323/ - also worth noting I've tried multiple times to DL the newest driver from Radeon site and the .run opens SO slow after 3 hours it was less than 25%, needless to say I quit out of that each time.... I've tried all the drivers I was able to find... and now I am unsure of how to even have these updates effect my actual filesystem on myPC - not just the USB, as I set up a 1.4G persistence.  Lastly it is worth noting
[01:04] <ubuntustudio> that RANDOMLY it will work after the install, meaning, the graphics driver just works, the screen does not blink on and off.  THe only reason it doesn't still work is I've had to reinstall due to other issues.
[01:04] <OerHeks> ubuntustudio, dual gpu, does the ati site give info ? or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[01:05] <zymaster> kostkon: still didn't work.
[01:06] <ubuntustudio> OerHeks:  I am going to look at this link now, thank you.
[01:06] <ubuntustudio> Dual gpu is what I have?
[01:06] <OerHeks> ubuntustudio, yes, i avoid those machines, good luck
[01:06] <kostkon> zymaster, you downloaded the unity-reset utility and ran it, right
[01:06] <ubuntustudio> Could you breifly explain to me what that means?
[01:07] <zymaster> kostkon: no the ppa's were outdated and returned 404s so I ran the alternative commands the link gave me
[01:07] <ubuntustudio> nevermind, the link says it!
[01:08] <decci> Hi I am facing this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053399/
[01:09] <asso8700> !ciao
[01:09] <asso8700> !list
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> ubuntustudio, thise posts being so long and full of unneeded info and copy and pasted close together just get you ignored by some
[01:09] <ubuntustudio> Sorry about that, I was told I should repost if I hear nothing
[01:09] <ubuntustudio> Did not mean to be rude by any means.
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> ubuntustudio, at the most 10 min, and keep it to what is needed to be known, ;)
[01:10] <kostkon> zymaster, you could try reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop metapackage just to be sure:  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[01:10] <ubuntustudio> OK, I was hoping to have all the info one might need included... again, I'll work on that, sorry!
[01:11] <zymaster> kostkon: alright thanks I'll try that
[01:11] <ubuntustudio> :)
[01:11] <zymaster> rebooting now brb
[01:12] <ubuntustudio> DerHeks:  That link you sent me has a section, "Using vga_switcheroo" - would you be able to tell me which option would be the likely one I'd need to use?
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ will tell you what is missing if needed.
[01:14] <chamunks> Is there a commandline social media posting / message sending service?
[01:14] <chamunks> or something that I can install.
[01:14] <kostkon> zymaster, then you could just try installing the nvidia driver from the repos. sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:16] <zymaster_> kostkon: didn't work, I don't know but I think it might be something with me not having a driver capable of doing opengl since I can't enable that in ccsm, maybe there's a way to reset driver?
[01:17] <kostkon> zymaster_, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:17] <zymaster_> kostkon: thanks
[01:18] <CurlyGrogan> Hey y'all, relatively fresh ubuntu install, new to freenode.. where should a life-long GUI user hang out to learn a little more?
[01:18] <kostkon> !info finch |  chamunks, for im check this
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> !manual | CurlyGrogan
[01:18] <CurlyGrogan> great! I tried using vim for the first time.. took me about 20 minutes to append a line to a config file. :D
[01:19] <CurlyGrogan> getting used to it now, though
[01:19] <andrej> ubuntu 12.04, rsyslog 5.8.6.  Trying to push messages from freeradius into a separate file (not syslog).
[01:19] <andrej> I created /etc/rsyslog.d/21-freeradius.conf, which says: :msg,contains,"freeradius" /var/log/freeradius.log
[01:19] <andrej> My file gets created, but lines from the radius server only end up in /var/log/syslog still - what did I miss?
[01:25] <CurlyGrogan> So I am trying to turn this linux box into a neat-o VPN + IRC server + seedbox + media streaming center. I'm stuck on step 1, the VPN. To what extent is this like trying to put a new engine in a car the first time you open the hood?
[01:26] <fury> hmm. i've done a little more digging, and it would appear that vesafb does not do ywrap or ypan under amd64. how can i disable vesafb so that uvesafb works?
[01:29] <andrej> and to answer my own question: the name of the program isn't part of the message, so I had to change :msg,contains,"freeradius" /var/log/freeradius.log to :programname,equals,"freeradius" /var/log/freeradius.log
[01:34] <arowana> Hi All. Good Morning
[01:34] <name5566> goodmorning all
[01:35] <darkangel> Hey whats faster and stabler? Ubuntu or Zorin?
[01:36] <name5566> Zorin？
[01:36] <kostkon> darkangel, try both
[01:36] <darkangel> done tryed just makin sure
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, This is ubuntu support not polling
[01:37] <darkangel> ok
[01:37] <DynaMc> Hmm never had this problem before, but getting ('Error: Unknown filesystem.') and kicked to grub rescue for a ubuntu server install.. any suggestions or reinstall and partition.. I was trying to do raid0 on a new box.
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> DynaMc, There is a #ubuntu-server channel if needed.
[01:41] <Oliver_> Rallias: Guess who's on wifi now...
[01:45] <name5566> oliver, what's your meaning?
[01:46] <name5566> oliver
[01:46] <Oliver_> name5566: Ys?
[01:46] <Oliver_> yes
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> !tab | name5566
[01:46] <Oliver_> name5566: What do you mean by what is my meanting?
[01:51] <onca> I have a lovely new partitioning scheme where sda4 is a LVM "crypto" which has one partition "ubuntu" with my root filesystem on it, and my boot partition is simply sda1 however my system complains at boot and fails because it couldn't open /dev/mapper/ubuntu. What do I have to do to make my kernel open sda4 as /dev/crypto and /dev/crypto/ubuntu as /dev/mapper/ubuntu?
[01:52] <zymaster> kostkon: Thanks, my system is pretty much restored and working, but now somehow my system is stuck with my driver being "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.2, 256 bits)" which I'll assume is crappy and is using my integrated graphics and not my dedicated card, so I was wondering if you or anyone else knows of the safe way to install nvidia drivers. Thanks
[01:52] <aaas> anyone know how to get the boot scroll (all those info/error messsages) that occur at boot and pipe it to a file (or show in a log somewhere; dont see them in syslog or messages)
[01:53] <indoome> Sup Ubuntu <333
[01:57] <zymaster> anyone know the safe way to install nvidia drivers? I have tried so many ways so many times and skrewed up my system each time.
[01:59] <jrib> !nvidia | zymaster
[01:59] <zymaster> thanks jrib
[02:11] <stirnwer> test
[02:11] <aeon-ltd> stirnwer: test failed
[02:12] <n1670> hello?
[02:12] <n1670> anyone mind helping?
[02:13] <stirnwer> ok... a question regarding fdisk and boot flags
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> stirnwer: ask away
[02:13] <stirnwer> in fdisk, if i choose "a" for toggling a bootable flag, does that just mean that the chosen partition gets a boot flag, or does it mean that the chosen partition gets a bootflag, and whichever partition had it before, loses it?
[02:13] <n1670> i have a question about ndiswrapper.
[02:13] <n1670> well, a problem with ndiswrapper
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | stirnwer
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> stirnwer: thats a nice package, where it all will make sense for you
[02:15] <stirnwer> lotuspsychje, mainly wondering whether setting a boot flag for /dev/sda4 will disturb my current boot config where grub is written into the MBR of the hd. i just want lilo installed on the fourth partition, not into the MBR
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> n1670: you could try to describe your problemmate?
[02:15] <n1670> yes
[02:15] <n1670> private chat me please?
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> n1670: no sorry, ask in channel mate
[02:16] <n1670> alright
[02:16] <n1670> allow me to start from the beginning
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> stirnwer, Why would you need lilo in a partition with grub in the mbr?
[02:17] <n1670> erm
[02:17] <n1670> hmm
[02:17] <n1670> i installed ndiswrapper
[02:18] <bazhang> !enter | n1670
[02:19] <n1670> i had installed the ndiswrapper and then after that i put my windows wireless drivers on there which was netwg121 and restarted my pc - the lights on the wireless adapter were working and the network list showed up
[02:20] <n1670> however, every time i tried connecting to my home network, it constantly kept asking for my wifi pw
[02:20] <itanshi> What is a good laptop spec range for doing programming tutorials? (or a chatroom to ask that at)
[02:21] <n1670> so anything i can do to fix the bug?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> spec range?   I imagien most any laptop these days can do basic programing tasks
[02:21] <stirnwer> wilee-nilee, lilo loads ttylinux nicely. i could experiment without later
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> most likely you want to decide your budget, then  find the best deal for the $$$
[02:22] <stirnwer> wilee-nilee, but ive read a little, and i now think that if i add boot flag to e.g. the fourth partition, then it will disappear from the partition which currently has it, disturbing my boot config
[02:23] <n1670> so anyone have a suggestion?
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> stirnwer, Not sure you need either I believe grub will boot it.
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> n1670: did you install windows wifi drivers on ubuntu?
[02:23] <n1670> yes i just said that lol
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> n1670:  see if can connect to your network if its dosent use any encryption/password  (as a quick term test)
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> theres cases where some drivers dont like specific types of encryption i recall.
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> n1670: did the windows driver have a linux folder inside?
[02:24] <n1670> uhh
[02:24] <n1670> no
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> hes using ndiswrapper ;) that uses the windows driver files.
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> which is getting to be a rare thing these days.. having to use ndiswrapper.
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: doesnt he need the proper wifi drivers?
[02:25] <n1670> what kinds of encryption?
[02:25] <n1670> oh i do
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  ngiswrapper uses the windows .inf stuff or somthing. i had to use it once. ages ago
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> n1670: whats your wifi card chipset?
[02:25] <n1670> ndiswrapper reads it as - netwg121: driver installed
[02:25] <n1670> netwg121
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> stirnwer, At the least the grub  40_custom
[02:25] <Oliver_> Would anybody be able to help me with a small project?
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> n1670: whats the cards name/brand?
[02:26] <itanshi> well it'd take screen and sound recording so imagine a bit nicer spec range than just that
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> n1670:  wep/wpa/wpa2 that stuff..  on the router. see if you can  get it to connect if you use some of the other modes
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> !anybody | Oliver_
[02:26] <n1670> it reads it all and everything and the name is Netgear WG121
[02:26] <Oliver_> Now that I have this second laptop running Ubuntu is there a way for me to set it up as a VPN?  So that I can use it as a tunnel while on my Android phone.
[02:26] <Oliver_> Or a file server?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> !vpn
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> file server -- just install the services you want.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> ssh, samba, whatever
[02:27] <Oliver_> Wow.  There's something for evrything is't there.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> i use andftp to get to my linux box via ssh all the time.
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> n1670: did you check your additional drivers section if your netgear appears?
[02:27] <n1670> let me see
[02:28] <n1670> its not there
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | n1670
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> n1670: check if your models shows in list
[02:29] <n1670> it does
[02:29] <n1670> i went to system settings > network > wireless
[02:29] <Oliver_> How do I stop seeding in Deluge?
[02:29] <n1670> and i see all of the networks around me
[02:29] <n1670> hit stop
[02:29] <n1670> or pause
[02:30] <Oliver_> There's no stop afaik
[02:30] <Oliver_> But pause will work?
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> Oliver_: set uploads speed to 1?
[02:30] <n1670> yes
[02:30] <Oliver_> Can't seed on my netwrk
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> n1670:  see any open networks you can try to connect to? ;)
[02:30] <n1670> no open networks
[02:30] <Oliver_> Nevermind.  I got it.
[02:31] <n1670> all have security
[02:31] <n1670> my encryption key is correct
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> try some of the other types of encryption. Ive defainatly heard of some wifi cards/drivers in linux not working with  some modes.
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> not a great thing i know..but its a test you can try
[02:32] <n1670> ok lemme try
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> n1670: on wich ubuntu version are you?
[02:33] <n1670> ubuntu 13.04
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> n1670: did you clean install or upgrade? did your wifi driver installed by default?
[02:34] <n1670> wifi driver is not installed by default and yes i did
[02:35] <Oliver_> Can you get viruses/spyware/malware on Ubuntu?  I don't think you can, but maybe it's just very rare.  Noob question here.
[02:35] <n1670> its hard to
[02:36] <n1670> like youd have to try to lol
[02:36] <Oliver_> Care to explain why?
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  viruses - unlikely -   i know of none. malware - you have do so some reallys stupid things.
[02:36] <Oliver_> Wouldn't open source be easier to infect?
[02:36] <n1670> because all of your personal belongings are kept under root access
[02:36] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: Thanks.
[02:36] <n1670> no
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  just the opposite. More peer review.
[02:36] <n1670> it's harder
[02:36] <Oliver_> Which means?
[02:36] <Oliver_> Ah.  OK.  Ic
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> wine somemalware.exe     ;)
[02:37] <n1670> lol
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> biggest danger i see to a ubuntu/linux box - is the end user doing somthing stupid
[02:37] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: Isn't Wine a Windows like linux distro?
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  No.
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[02:37] <n1670> question - would WPA, WPA2 work with ndiswrapper?
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> n1670:  ive heard of cases where wpa2 dident work. but wpa did.  and so on.
[02:38] <n1670> how do you use wpa and not wpa2
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> set it on your router
[02:38] <n1670> it says WPA and WPA2 together
[02:39] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: That's what I meant by Windows like.  It's basically emulation?
[02:39] <n1670> errrr ok
[02:39] <Oliver_> I had an idea of what it was, but could'nt formulate it quite right
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  wine is not a disrto. wine lets you run windoes executables on linux
[02:39] <n1670> wait how?
[02:39] <Oliver_> ok
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> its not an emulator
[02:39] <n1670> actually nvm
[02:39] <n1670> ill figure it out, brb
[02:39] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: Ok.  I'm still reading in to it.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> wine solitare.exe     ;) runs the windows solitare game
[02:40] <Oliver_> Cool
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> if you got the exe ;P
[02:41] <Oliver_> So would I be able to setup this laptop at my home as a VPN.  And when I'm at school on the school's wifi, would I be able to tunnel to this laptop and avoid the school firewall?
[02:41] <Oliver_> Or would I need to work it a different way.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  or a ssh tunnle
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> vpn is not the same as  a ssh tunnle
[02:41] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: But that was the basic idea right?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> depends on what all the firewall does.  if you can ssh out.. you basically are out. ;)
[02:42] <NeonSpeed> How can I change my mouse cursor? I have tried using Ubuntu tweak and unity tweak tool but they only make the cursor change is certain programs
[02:43] <Oliver_> Ok.  They're FW blocks sites like Facebook, Twitter, and other sites that my teachers want us to use sometimes such as non .edu domains.  I'm thinking about doing this because it will be easier than the current process.
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> NeonSpeed:  you logged out/back in since youve changed the cursor?
[02:43] <NeonSpeed> Dr_Willis, Yeah and when I go in my browser the cursor is the new one but in everything else it is the stock cursor
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> NeonSpeed:  i think it has somting to do with gtk vs nongtk apps.. ive seen people ask a similer question befor. and never seen a good answer
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com may have some info on it
[02:45] <Oliver_> What would be the easiest way to transfer my music from my primary laptop to this one?
[02:45] <wmorri> hi, is there a way to install mariadb without removing mysql?
[02:45] <NeonSpeed> Dr_Willis, It worked the first time I changed my cursor but now it doesn't work anymore
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  dropbox ;)
[02:46] <Oliver_> Even if it's copyrighted music?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  depends on how they are networked also
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> dropbox stores your stuff..
[02:46] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: They're literally next to each other atm
[02:46] <crazyharry> can I install Linux Ubuntu/Mint as a dual boot on a computer with Windows 8 having bitlocker on ? I already created two partition for linux native and swap
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  if they are networked on the same lan. you can use ssh/scp/sshfs to do some transfers
[02:47] <Oliver_> ok
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  or set up some samba shares
[02:47] <Oliver_> Some whats?
[02:47] <sere> anyone know why synaptic would be asking for two passwords and only needs the first to work
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> sere:  launch it from a terminal see if it asks?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> sere:  i think the default menu launcher runs 'gksudo synaptic'
[02:48] <Gedge_> hello
[02:48] <Gedge_> I fixed ndiswrapper, thank you!
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> Gedge_:  oh? How.
[02:48] <Gedge_> I turned off WPA2
[02:48] <Gedge_> And made it WPA only
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Gedge_:  you worked around a bug/issue in ndiswrapper. :)
[02:49] <Gedge_> It apparently also made my internet a lot more stable too
[02:49] <sere> Dr_Willis: ahh ok.. that sounds right in terminal with sudo it doesnt ask for another
[02:49] <Gedge_> :3 ty.
[02:49] <sere> Dr_Willis: ty
[02:49] <Gedge_> Running on - Core i7-Extreme, Raedon HD 7950, 32 GBs of ram, Two 512 SSDs
[02:49] <Gedge_> :3
[02:50] <Gedge_> Anyone know how to make linux look more unique?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Gedge_:  linux techincally is just the kernel. ;)
[02:50] <Gedge_> True. lol
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu uses Unity as the default GUI.
[02:50] <Gedge_> I'm using Compiz
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Compiz is a window maanger, unity is a plugin for compiz
[02:50] <crazyharry> can I install Linux Ubuntu/Mint as a dual boot on a computer with Windows 8 having bitlocker on ? I already created two partition for linux native and swap
[02:50] <Gedge_> Ohhh
[02:51] <Gedge_> Uhh
[02:51] <Gedge_> I'm having a keyring problem.
[02:51] <Gedge_> It says - "Enter password to unlock your login keyring."
[02:51] <Gedge_> I enter it in, it says it's wrong.
[02:51] <rhin0> need to develop fast for ipad .. viable on ubuntu?  ubuntu is my platform - do not need a mac.
[02:52] <Gedge_> OS X = A crappy unix based software to me
[02:52]  * rhin0 sips coffee
[02:52] <CountryfiedLinux> How long are non-LTS releases supported for? I forgot.
[02:52] <rhin0> 4 yeaers
[02:52] <rhin0> no hango n non-?  not long its on wikipedia site for ubuntu
[02:52] <rhin0> nice little chart
[02:52] <renebarbosa> non-LTS are 4 years supported?
[02:52] <renebarbosa> omg
[02:52] <rhin0> no
[02:52] <CountryfiedLinux> rhin0: I knew it wasn't that long haha
[02:53] <rhin0> i just got off 10.04 oO ... this morning
[02:53] <renebarbosa> rhin0, for me it was 9 months supported
[02:53] <renebarbosa> hehe
[02:53] <Gedge_> lol
[02:53] <Gedge_> 10.04 wow
[02:53] <renebarbosa> thanls for the info
[02:53] <renebarbosa> thanks*
[02:53] <rhin0> yeah .. I jumped a quantum leap to 12.04
[02:53] <Gedge_> We all know how Windows 7 is soon to be outdated lol
[02:53] <ClientTest> lmao
[02:53] <Gedge_> DX 11.2 is gonna be for windows 8 only, luckily, we don't need to worry about thaqt.
[02:53] <Gedge_> :3
[02:53] <rhin0> I need to develop i-apps
[02:53] <ClientTest> win7 is nice tbh
[02:53] <Gedge_> It is
[02:53] <rhin0> some sites telling me I need a mac
[02:53] <Gedge_> But linux makes you do whatever you want.
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> guys, stick to ubuntu support please
[02:54] <ClientTest> i'd only use linux for python scripting..
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> use #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussions
[02:54] <wmorri> hi, is there a way to install mariadb without removing mysql?
[02:54] <CountryfiedLinux> What about the people that have new hardware when the next LTS is out but can't use it because their graphics card is too new for Debian Testing? After 9 months are they supposed to just go 3 months without updates or just upgrade to the latest alpha for the next release?
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> !lts | CountryfiedLinux
[02:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Oh nvm 6 months between releases sorry
[02:55] <CountryfiedLinux> I was thinking 12 for some reason :P sorry
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> CountryfiedLinux:  thats what  ubuntu point releases often address - they updated the graphic stack and kernel i belive
[02:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Dr_Willis: in LTS?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> 12.04.4  uses  some new stuff for newer hardware
[02:55] <Gedge_> I have a big problem.
[02:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Dr_Willis: Oh that is good news then.
[02:55] <CountryfiedLinux> thanks
[02:56] <Gedge_> Keyring password says it's wrong and it's not.
[02:56] <maximusmaximus2> well i just got back from watching jackass 1,2,3,and 3.5
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> i dont worry about sticking to LTS. ;)
[02:56] <CountryfiedLinux> me neither
[02:56] <CountryfiedLinux> one more question
[02:56] <Gedge_> lol
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> !ot | maximusmaximus2
[02:56] <CountryfiedLinux> When an LTS is released, does the release behind the LTS actually have newer packages?
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> Gedge_: keyring password and your wifi password are not the same right
[02:57] <CountryfiedLinux> Because that would feel kinda funny upgrading to the latest release just for it to have older packages than what you've got :P
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> CountryfiedLinux:  i doubt if thats the case
[02:57] <CountryfiedLinux> And I hear that downgrading is riskier than upgrading packages, which is what a user would be doing
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> since the older releae would be 6+ mo old.
[02:57] <aaas> for some reason i cant browse my network share from windows8 by hostname (\\servername) but can using ip \\192.168.1.151  i purged samba completely, reinstalled, installed winbind, modified nsswitch.conf to put 'wins' but i just cant brows by hostname...any suggestions
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> you dont really 'downgrade' packages in ubuntu to earlier releases
[02:58] <CountryfiedLinux> Dr_Willis: Is 6 months about the time between debian testing and sid?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> aaas:  having to use ip# is a common thing.
[02:58] <aaas> Dr_Willis it works on my other computer fine
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> aaas:  i think theres some package  that helps it out. buti never can rember its name
[02:58] <aaas> actually it works for many people
[02:58] <aaas> i think winbind
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> I cant recall it ever working here. and i think its somthing other then windbind. but i cant recall the name. I looked it up once. ;) ages ago
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> I cheat and edit my hosts file. but these days i dont even use samba shares. so ive not had to fight withit in  a year or more
[02:59] <Gedge_> Uhh
[03:00] <ClientTest> hi
[03:00] <Gedge_> Keyring password = Your computers PW
[03:00] <ClientTest> sorry just testing my CLI client lol
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Gedge_:  it dosent have to be.
[03:00] <gassho> how do i find out how much memory my graphics board has
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> aaas: maybe the #networking guys or #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[03:00] <aaas> yeah it was workign for AGES for me (I use samba for faster personal network speeds) ...i just dont know what happened
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Gedge_:  but people often put that in when it first asks for the keyring password to use
[03:00] <nerdtron> gassho, on the BIOS
[03:00] <aaas> lotuspsychje ok thanks
[03:00] <gassho> what does BIOS mean
[03:00] <gassho> n tyvm
[03:00] <Gedge_> .->
[03:00] <Gedge_> Dude
[03:01] <Gedge_> Dr. Wilis, what is the default keyring pw?
[03:01] <nerdtron> gassho, the BIOS (reboot and see the SETUP) of the computer, you can see there the onboard video
[03:01] <BluesKaj> !bios | gassho
[03:02] <Oliver_> My new chair is from the fbi...
[03:13] <sirajperson> hmmmm
[03:14] <sirajperson> nobody around
[03:14] <BluesKaj> some are
[03:15] <Pinkamena_D> how can you change the icon for the terminal that appears on the launcher
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> Pinkamena_D:  edit the  apps .desktop file would be one way
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> sirajperson: ask your question mate
[03:17] <Pinkamena_D> would you know what folder would be useful to search for that in in a default installation?
[03:17] <sirajperson> any pros around? I have been trying to get my Ubuntu Svr to display shades of colors but can't since it isnt using vt100
[03:18] <sirajperson> anyone know how to get vt100 term through VGA?
[03:18] <sirajperson> (without X)
[03:18] <sirajperson> maybe there's just some concept I dont get about vt10*
[03:19] <sirajperson> I have been searching around google for hours now, so I thought it might be a good idea to come here to discuss the topic.
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> sirajperson: ubuntu server?
[03:19] <sirajperson> yepers
[03:19] <qin> Pinkamena_D: dpkg -L name; man dpkg
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> sirajperson: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know your issue?
[03:20] <BluesKaj> !vtest | sirajperson
[03:20] <sirajperson> I have an ubuntu server install that I would like to display shades of blue/green to report data from a script i wrote
[03:20] <BluesKaj> !info vtest | sirajperson
[03:20] <BluesKaj> hmm
[03:21] <sirajperson> just a sec, I'll give it a shot
[03:22] <sirajperson> hmmm, is vtest a package?
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> !info vttest
[03:22] <BluesKaj> sirajperson, yes
[03:22] <sirajperson> okay, let me go for vttest
[03:22] <sirajperson> ;-)
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: tnx for the hint
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> sirajperson:  so how are you connected to the linux box? a serial terminal?
[03:23] <sirajperson> downloading.
[03:23] <sirajperson> :-) this channel is the best :-)
[03:23] <sirajperson> ubuntu communit is awesome!
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | BluesKaj
[03:23] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:27] <sirajperson> okie dokie
[03:27] <sirajperson> I ran the tests
[03:28] <sirajperson> Not sure if this is quite what the trouble is.
[03:29] <sirajperson> vttest is tests the screen for vt100 functionality, but doesnt give it the functionality if it doesn't have it. The problem is that I cannot make shades of colors with a monitor attached to the VGA of my server install
[03:31] <sirajperson> example::::                 for i in {16..30}; do; echo -en "$CLR_HEAD${i}m${i} $CLR_CR"; done; echo
[03:31] <sirajperson> only prints one color of blue, instead of dark blue( almost black ) to light blue
[03:32] <sirajperson> So, I guess the question is, how do you make a server install show display text color shades without installing X?
[03:36] <sirajperson> when i read the info for xvt, it says that xvt is a vt100 emulator for X windows, is there a way to get a vt100 terminal without installing X windows (an alternative to xvt)?
[03:37] <chgojoe> can someone please help me with an ubuntu 13.04 installation issue?
[03:38] <hanasaki> how to install grub on sdb ?    ran grub-install and it does boot to grub... but the kernel is not run... just comes up grub>  prompt
[03:38] <chgojoe> I am totally new to irc and ubuntu
[03:38] <sirajperson> oh, there is a handy tool for grub. do you have a graphical display working?
[03:38] <hanasaki> sirajperson:  ya
[03:39] <sirajperson> checkout boot-repair. its a gui tool that lets you customize all that is Grub :-)
[03:40] <chgojoe> can someone help me? I have NO desktop after install
[03:40] <chgojoe> something about compiz
[03:40] <sirajperson> hmmmm, did you have a desktop from live cd?
[03:40] <hanasaki> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "boot-repair"
[03:41] <sirajperson> try help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:41] <chgojoe> I used a few different versions when I realized I didnt know what the hell I WAS doing lol
[03:41] <hanasaki> sirajperson:  any help via the command line?
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, try google bootrepair
[03:42] <chgojoe> I also tried to google my issue and couldnt figure it out
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, save that bootinfo summary url.
[03:42] <sirajperson> sure: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[03:42] <sirajperson> sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)
[03:43] <hanasaki> sirajperson:  lol i mean to fix it by had
[03:43] <hanasaki> hand
[03:43] <hanasaki> thanks wilee-nilee
[03:44] <hanasaki> is ubuntu going to continue adding more commercial stuff? like unity suggests amazon movies to buy when i search on my  hard drive
[03:44] <hanasaki> ??
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, YOu can turn that off or remove.
[03:44] <sirajperson> LoL, okie dokie: if your looking to fix by hand we are going to need to know more about partition scheme.
[03:44] <hanasaki> like whoopsie?
[03:44] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee:  where?
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, they are lenses, I use synaptic.
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> !lenses
[03:45] <hanasaki> lenses?
[03:46] <hanasaki> sirajperson:  what do you want to know?
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, http://www.itworld.com/software/354007/disable-online-search-lenses-ubuntu-1304
[03:50] <zymaster> hey I'm having a slight problem installing my nvidia drivers. I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 with an Nvidia GeForge GT 650M. I've read that under software sources/additional drivers you can install proprietary drivers but for some reason no drivers show up for me on that tab. Any ideas? thanks
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: what are the symptons you have under your default driver?
[03:52] <zymaster> lotuspsychje: well for one I'm pretty sure it's just using my integrated graphics and not my dedicated card, and I want to get as much performance as possible.
[03:52] <sirajperson> to reset compiz, you may want to try opening a terminal by pressing: ctrl+alt+t
[03:52] <sirajperson> then typing:: unity --reset
[03:54] <zymaster> also its a little flaky and slow sometimes
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: lshw -c video please?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: what does driver= show?
[03:55] <chgojoe> the rest option is now deprecated is what I get
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> chgojoe, A bit more detailed description might help, do you get to the login?
[03:56] <zymaster> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/A3EXNx66
[03:56] <tux_> hello, what are the command lines to access an encrypted Ubuntu home folder? thanks
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: its integrated intel graphics on board?
[03:58] <zymaster> lotuspsychje: yeah its intel integrated graphics on my processor but I want to use my nvidia card
[03:58] <zymaster> thanks btw
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: ok did you disable onboard graphics in bios?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | zymaster
[03:59] <zymaster> lotuspsychje: no I'll try that thanks
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: then install your nvidia ubuntu drivers
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-current
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> tux_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> gtg work
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> greetz
[04:01] <tux_> ok wilee-nilee i'll try that out
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> tux_, Without a context it is kinda difficult to help you for the channel.
[04:03] <chgojoe> how do I get online with no desktop
[04:04] <BoomerBile> is there any way to get rid of the annoying flash plugin installer message?
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> chgojoe, Did the install medium get to a live desktop?
[04:05] <BoomerBile> The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed. . . flashplugin-installer . . This is a permanent falure that leaves these packages unusable on your system.
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, what packages what context?
[04:06] <BoomerBile> i just typed the error out
[04:06] <chgojoe> how do i access my wirless networks with nno desktop so I can get online to fix my compiz?
[04:06] <BoomerBile> wilee-nilee, i just typed it out for ya... context yellow light bulb
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, Read the question
[04:07] <BoomerBile> happens every boot and randomly when it figures out that it needs to tell me that... flash works fine
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, What were the packages, and how were you trying to install?
[04:07] <BoomerBile> when i run the suggested action it installs the plugin fine
[04:07] <BoomerBile> i wasn't trying to install anything
[04:07] <BoomerBile> it just keeps popping up
[04:08] <BoomerBile> it says flash plugin installed
[04:08] <BoomerBile> then the message comes up again
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, Try sudo apt-get update?
[04:08] <BoomerBile> i've done that many times
[04:08] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile, firefox ?
[04:08] <BoomerBile> i've dist-upgraded 3 times and it's still going
[04:08] <BoomerBile> do-release-upgrade
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, Starting at what release?
[04:09] <BoomerBile> flash works in firefox
[04:09] <BoomerBile> flash works everywhere
[04:09] <BoomerBile> starting at 10.xx
[04:09] <BoomerBile> did it in 12.04 and now 13 too
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, NO eol upgrade eh?
[04:09] <BoomerBile> eol upgrade?
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> !eol
[04:10] <BoomerBile> i'm using a supported release
[04:10] <BoomerBile> 13.04
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, not starting with 10.xx
[04:10] <BoomerBile> i've uninstalled and re-installed this package many times
[04:10] <BoomerBile> it's not 10.xx anymore it's 13
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, Correct it is something, if done correctly you would have started with a eol specific upgrade at 10.xx, however maybe you will be lucky and this will be okay.
[04:12] <zymaster> Hey, that didn't work my BIOS wouldn't let me disable integrated graphics, so is there any other way to ensure that the right drivers show up for me in software sources/additional drivers because right now there are none. Thanks
[04:13] <BoomerBile> if you're saying that i should uninstall and re-install ubuntu then there is a reason that ubuntu is my last choice for an os and maybe i should install gentoo on my laptop, like on my desktop
[04:13] <BluesKaj> zymaster, you should b able to make the pci card the default without disabling the onboard.
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> do what pleases you, I'm just pointing out what you did that was wrong.
[04:13] <BluesKaj> in the bios
[04:14] <zymaster> BluesHaj: how I didn't see an option for that?
[04:14] <tux_> BoomerBile, try out Slitaz it is super fast and lightweight, and amazingly the ISO is only 30MB and it uses 30MB or ram!
[04:15] <BluesKaj> move pci card up in the graphics sequence/list, zymaster
[04:15] <BoomerBile> if'n i'm going to have to install another os, i'll go gentoo, the "releases" just work... been running the same install on my desktop since 2005 and all the upgrades work
[04:15] <BoomerBile> and i can install gentoo using ubuntu
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> OS's work when you follow the directions
[04:16] <zymaster> alright thanks BluesKaj, I'll brb if that doesn't work
[04:16] <BoomerBile> without rebooting or downloading a dvd/cd
[04:16] <tux_> BoomerBile, you can also try the Ubuntu based distro Trisquel, it doesn't have all the bloat of Ubuntu like the ads of Ubuntu One, Ubuntu Software Center, Amazon...
[04:16] <BoomerBile> wilee-nilee, i did... it said a new version of ubuntu is available... i clicked the upgrade button and waited 3 hours
[04:16] <BoomerBile> i use kubuntu
[04:17] <BoomerBile> wilee-nilee, then it said that again, so i did it again
[04:17] <BoomerBile> and then a third time
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> upgrades can break - depending on what ppas and other stuff. its often much faster to do a clean install instead of going through 3+ upgrades.. if you put off upgradeing that long
[04:18] <BoomerBile> if (k)ubuntu can't upgrade itself, i think gentoo will be a better decision...
[04:18] <digitalfiz> hey guys i have an issue with AMD drivers and 13.04. After installation of both choices my install only boots to a blinking cursor. I can't use ctrl+alt+1 to get to a prompt or anything but when I hit the power button I go get a bunch of stuff shutting down then it turns off. How can I uninstall them. Oh also hitting shift at boot doesnt give me anything
[04:18] <digitalfiz> either.
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | digitalfiz
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  use what you want. we dont care. Upgrades to the next release CAN break. they ARE tested. but there still can be issues. Backups are a good idea. and  somthing like a Powerfailure during a Upgrade can be VERY bad.
[04:19] <BoomerBile> i seriously doubt this has anything to do with (k)ubuntu, it's a flash installer issue
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  clarify the exact problem please.
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> some one was in here yesterday having issues getting the flash-installer package to install flash.. then it suddendly worked for him. (not sure what he did)
[04:20] <digitalfiz> wilee-nilee: I cant get to grub for some reason. Its a fresh install and the only thing on the drive
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> digitalfiz, YOu tried the shift key?
[04:21] <BoomerBile> i log into X... in my taskbar i get a yellow light bulb that says there is a problem with a package... i click the yellow light bulb and an error pops up that says that flashplugin-installer didn't install properly, i click the fix problem button and wait while it downloads the flash plugin in a terminal, it says flash plugin installed and i close the terminal
[04:21] <digitalfiz> wilee-nilee: yes
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> press and HOLD shift - and if the grub menu is hidden is should have grub appear
[04:21] <BluesKaj> digitalfiz, hold the left shift key down right after the bios screen
[04:21] <BoomerBile> 5 minutes later i get the same light bulb
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> digitalfiz, The live cd get to a desktop?
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> or usb
[04:22] <BoomerBile> i'll see if i can get some screen shots of it
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile: id reinstall the flashplugin-installer package  with the command line. and see if any errors are mentioned, I THINK yesterday the guy removed/reinstalled the flashplugin-installer package, it might also be adobe renamed or did somthing to their servers
[04:22] <digitalfiz>  can boot the live cd but i dont know how to uninstall the drivers on my system once I boot the cd
[04:22] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile, just check your bios , we already know you probly prefer gentoo
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> apt-get error mesages would be more helpfull then screenshots
[04:22] <co-XZist> Dr_Willis:  does that also work if ubuntu is in a Vm ?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> co-XZist:  does what also work?
[04:23] <co-XZist> Dr_Willis: the shift key
[04:23] <BoomerBile> BluesKaj, i prefer gentoo till it comes to slow machines and compiling ;)
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> co-XZist:  it should
[04:23] <BoomerBile> gentoo isn't very mobile
[04:23] <digitalfiz>  wilee-nilee: when I mount /sda1 I see some weird folders for EFI not what I expect
[04:23] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile, no kidding :)
[04:23] <co-XZist> Dr_Willis: ok thks, I'll give it  try
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> co-XZist:  i always setup grub where it never hides.
[04:24] <BoomerBile> ubuntu is definitely a good second choice... over most of the other distros i've used regularly (and i've tried them all for a year or two)
[04:24] <BoomerBile> sure beats slackware 1.0 and building my own system and finding my own deps
[04:25] <zymaster> That didn't work I can't change the priority of my graphics cards but anyway that's not my main problem  I have an nvidia GeForce GT 650M but I can't find any additional drivers in software sources. Is there a way to fix that?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> zymaster:  its not a dual-gpu optimus system is it?
[04:25] <waterlite> hi all
[04:26] <zymaster> Dr_Willis: No just the one card and integrated graphics but I don't want to use that
[04:26] <xirre> ps -p [pid] -o pcpu > 'cpu.txt'   How could you turn this in to a command that reads CPU more accurately and current but still outputs to a text.
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> zymaster:  if you are feeling lucky - you can try installing the 'nvidia-current' package via apt-get  and see if it works
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  accurately? meanind what? you want the temp in more decimal points?
[04:27] <digitalfiz> wilee-nilee: o you think the nomodset would help me thought because my problem is not until after I install the proprietary drivers. i was hoping to recover without reinstalling this time as that's the only way I know how to fix it
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  or are you wanting to make a log file of the output every few min?
[04:28] <zymaster> Dr_Willis: Thanks, but I have done that so many times, one time my resolution get messed up, the other time all of my text gets reversed. Unless you know a safe way to do that I'd like to avoid that
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> reversed?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> I just install the nvidia-current package on all my nvidia systems. rarely had an issue. but my cards are all 2+ yrs old these days
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> You can always get to the console/recovery mode and uninstall the packages i guess.
[04:29] <zymaster> Dr_Willis: Yeah it was hilarious but unusable everything got turned upside-down
[04:29] <xirre> Dr_Willis: Currently when using this method it seems if th process shoots up to 100% and back down to 0% that it'll take a while for this command to realize it's at 0% and instead it'll go down slowly by 0.1% every few seconds.
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> digitalfiz, The efi is a bit of a red flag, did this have a windows system at ine point now gone?
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> one*
[04:30] <BoomerBile> http://pastebin.com/UmLhwebc <<-- Dr_Willis
[04:30] <BoomerBile> going to re-log to see if the light bulb comes back brb
[04:30] <xirre> Dr_Willis: I want the file to only contain the current CPU of a specific process. It's for third party means. A server I'm making. This is the last piece I need. :)
[04:30] <digitalfiz> wilee-nilee: yeah but I had it working until I upgraded to 13.10 and broke it so I had to reinstall and now im getting this
[04:31] <tux_> is it possible to access my encrypted Ubuntu home folder with a liveCD or do i have to do something special?
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | digitalfiz
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> tux_:  yes to both parts i think.
[04:31] <digitalfiz> yeah im not on 13.10 anymore :) I reinstalled with 13.04 and its broke, wasnt before
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> tux_:  you have to do somthign special from the live cd to access them
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  you may want to ask in #bash  they are good with that sort of stuff
[04:32] <tux_> sudo ecryptfs-recover-private doesn't work
[04:32] <xirre> Dr_Willis: Thanks. Will do.
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> digitalfiz, I'm not up on uefi in general hard to say for me, however that is key info to include, and what when and how drivers you have installed.
[04:33]  * wilee-nilee is getting a gentoo tattoo right now
[04:34] <zymaster> Dr_Willis: wait it does have optimus its just not dual GPU, does that change anything?
[04:35] <waterlite> Hi all
[04:35] <digitalfiz> im typing from my tablet so its hard to type to much. I installed a fresh install of 13.04 when it was released and the proprietary drivers worked and then I forced an upgrade to 13.10 recently and messed everything up so I did another fresh install with 13.04 now and the proprietary drivers don't work.
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> waterlite, we see you this is support do you need any?
[04:35] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, http://imgur.com/qIx2K9H
[04:35] <BluesKaj> zymaster, optimus uses 2 gpus
[04:35] <waterlite> ya
[04:35] <waterlite> Any1 frm India
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> state it then
[04:35] <waterlite> Im indian
[04:36] <waterlite> need some help
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> !in
[04:36] <waterlite> hm
[04:36] <BoomerBile> wilee-nilee, that should be written in Indian ;)
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> that is a bot
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  does flash actually work - is the big question
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  the text log shows it installed.
[04:37] <BoomerBile> yes just fine Dr_Willis
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  so theres some old error log file thats showing that info incorrectly would be my guess
[04:38] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, but i get that error regardless of the status of the package, if i uninstall it i still get the error, as you can see in my pastebin the package was not installed, still got that message
[04:38] <zymaster> BluesKaj: No that can't be true because this link says that optimus is just some sort of energy conserving system that comes onboard the card, without needing to, http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gt-650m/description
[04:38] <BluesKaj> !optimus
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> the error reporter has some log file that needs cleared out - is my guess.
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> i dont know if kde uses apport or not
[04:39] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, where to look?
[04:39] <BoomerBile>  /var/log?
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> I dont use kde. so not sure if its kde specific or not.
[04:39] <williangliao> Dr_Willis: do you remember when we fell in .....
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  id check on askubuntu.com  someone may have had a similer issue
[04:39] <BoomerBile> thanks Dr_Willis
[04:39] <BluesKaj> zymaster, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Optimus
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Optimus is not 'just' a engery conserving system. ;)
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> its a pain in the backside. ;)
[04:41] <zymaster> BluesKaj: Ohhh I get it, thanks sorry to incorrectly correct you. So does that mean my system is using both cards automatically?
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> zymaster:  in theory its supposed to switch from one card to the other as needed to save power, and reduce heat
[04:42] <elixir> How can I make wifi from ubuntu (provide lan sharing internet) for my android device? I used connectify in Windows but ain't getting a clue here, do we have a s/w?
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[04:42] <zymaster> Dr_Willis: thanks, does that still work on linux
[04:42] <BluesKaj> if you install bumblebee zymaster , it might. there no guarantees
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> zymaster:  no idea. I dont have an optimus system. and i definatly plan on NOT ever getting one.
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> no uefi no optimus
[04:43] <james> hi
[04:44] <BluesKaj> getting away fron uefi is becoming difficult
[04:44] <Guest93334> i delete pulse and now i have no sound...anyone know why?
[04:44] <zymaster> Alright well thanks BluesKaj, Dr_Willis, I'll probably just stick with using my integrated card this is too complicated
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Guest93334:  because pulse is the soundsystem that ubuntu uses..
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Guest93334:  perhaps tell us why you deleted pulse?
[04:45] <BoomerBile> http://askubuntu.com/questions/222696/download-flashplugin-installer-error <-- Dr_Willis seems i'm not the only one, thanks for that info, i don't use ubuntu enough to know where to look for answers
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  definatly bookmark that askubuntu.com site. ;)
[04:45] <Guest93334> cos i meant to delete pulse equaliser
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  the dash search feature is supposed to search there. but i still go to the site.
[04:45] <Guest93334> i reinstalled pulse but still not working
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Guest93334: reinstall the ubuntu-desktop package perhaps.
[04:46] <elixir> ubotto: on my Ubuntu 12.10, I goto System Settings->Networks->Wireless and Use as Hotspot, but it isn't shown on my android device!
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Guest93334:  then reboot
[04:46] <Guest93334> how do i do that?
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Guest93334:  install the 'ubuntu-desktop'package? or 'reboot' ?
[04:46] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, yeah i prefer the manual way myself ;) (thus a gentoo lover)
[04:46] <Guest93334> lol
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <BluesKaj> Guest93334, you probly have to reboot
[04:46] <Guest93334> packages
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> then 'sudo reboot'
[04:47] <Guest93334> ive rebooted many times already
[04:48] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, p.s. there is no dash search in kde which is why i use it
[04:48] <BoomerBile> i hate unity
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> unity is handy.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> gotten where i cant stand kde.
[04:48] <BoomerBile> i recommend unity to my newb linux users for sure, to me it's annoying
[04:48] <BoomerBile> but i'm a cli guy
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> cant say i really have any problems with it at all
[04:49] <BoomerBile> nope, it works great
[04:49] <Guest93334> Dr_Willis, thank you
[04:49] <BoomerBile> if you like gui's
[04:49] <xmetal> i almost feel (in some ways) lxde seemse like old (pre 3.x) KDE
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> been using lxde for the last few weeks. but its lacking in ways that annoy me at times
[04:50] <xmetal> i have never hated KDE though it seems to have gotten more "bloated" to me lately
[04:50] <BoomerBile> yes kde is very bloated
[04:50] <BoomerBile> the only thing i like in kde are the widgets and the panel, if i could mix kde4 with e16 like i could with kde 3.5 i would
[04:50] <BoomerBile> but it doesn't work well
[04:51] <xmetal> again the beauty of Linux .. use w/e DE you want :)
[04:51] <gassho> chromium-browser keeps 'hiding' underneath 'dash home'
[04:51] <BluesKaj> to keep kde fast and clean , one has to aotoremove and autoclean every week or so
[04:52] <BoomerBile> kde is a pain in the ... especially if you run gentoo ... you have to remove all of it and re-install it every release
[04:52] <BoomerBile> 284 packages
[04:52] <BoomerBile> bleh
[04:53] <BoomerBile> good thing for compiler farms
[04:53] <FloodBot1> BoomerBile: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <BoomerBile> and having 15 pcs
[04:53] <BluesKaj> I have no complaints about kde , considering the alternatives :)
[04:54] <xmetal> instead of being stuck with one "DE" like in MS ... in Linux you can use whichever one you like :)
[04:54] <BoomerBile> fvwm-crystal is pretty nice
[04:54] <s00pcan> I installed xmonad and have never looked back, so I guess I will never get to enjoy these pointless DE aguments
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> just think - if all those years ago there wasent that big stink about the QT licenseing..  that sort of put the fire under gnome.. we could all be using kde right now
[04:55] <BoomerBile> gnome used to be good, before nautilus and metacity, back when e16 was the wm
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> sort of sad that Metisse never got popular.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> cant say i ever recall e16 being the default for gnome.
[04:55] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, way back in the early 90s
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> I recall  the old Ximian gnome days
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> dont recall e16 being part of it.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> i think i was using sawfish ;)
[04:56] <BoomerBile> ever run slackware?
[04:56] <BoomerBile> slackware had it as the default wm
[04:56] <BoomerBile> for quite a long time
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> dont see the point in slackware really. so ive only toyed with slack
[04:56] <james_> my sound still not working
[04:57] <BoomerBile> slackware is a good base if you want to learn to do your own linux
[04:57] <BoomerBile> that's about it these days
[04:57] <xmetal> i use mint regulary, though i do like to "mess with" slack from time to time
[04:57] <BoomerBile> slack was the only choice of distro when i started using linux, there was no other maintained distro
[04:58] <xmetal> true
[04:58] <BoomerBile> mint is nice
[04:58] <BoomerBile> i like min
[04:58] <BoomerBile> i like mint*
[04:58] <BluesKaj> Guest30767, open alsa mixer and tell us which audio chip is listed in the top left
[04:58] <BluesKaj> err alsamixer
[04:58] <Guest30767> it doesnt open
[04:59] <BluesKaj> it's one word
[04:59] <BluesKaj> Guest30767, in the terminal
[04:59] <Guest30767> ah
[04:59] <xmetal> i say Mint/Ubuntu (either) would be a godo start for newbies
[04:59] <BoomerBile> unless they want to play games
[05:00] <xmetal> (and heck .. for anyone :P)
[05:00] <BoomerBile> don't give them Mint if they want games
[05:00] <bazhang> !ot
[05:00] <BoomerBile> they will be sadly disappointed
[05:00] <Guest30767> BluesKaj, │ Chip: SigmaTel STAC9228                                                      │
[05:00] <xmetal> oh geez
[05:00] <xmetal> w/e
[05:01] <Guest30767> preferences>sound doesnt open thou
[05:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo
[05:11] <BoomerBile> Guest30767, or james_ this is a bug --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1197290
[05:12] <Guest30767> BoomerBile, ok thx
[05:12] <BoomerBile> i didn't finish reading the page there may be an answer there
[05:13] <Guest30767> :)
[05:13] <Guest30767> hope so
[05:13] <BoomerBile> looks like there is a patch at the bottom
[05:14] <BoomerBile> the link at the bottom
[05:19] <BoomerBile> i seem to be missing sound in my mp4 files, what would cause this in ubuntu ?
[05:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> BoomerBile: missing codecs? did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[05:23] <kumarat9pm> I see there is no /etc/inittab file in ubuntu..
[05:23] <waterlite> hi kumarat9pm
[05:23] <kumarat9pm> I am bit puzzled with this
[05:23] <kumarat9pm> is it replaced by upstart or something?
[05:24] <kumarat9pm> can any one throw some light?
[05:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> erm, what did ubottu just do?
[05:25] <SarahX> hi
[05:26] <tangel> howdy
[05:36] <A1Recon> i want to use the curl command for this ..... http://magpi.techjeeper.com/The-MagPi-issue-2-en.pdf  . There are about 12 issues (actually i don't know how many)..... what do i type?
[05:37] <A1Recon> got it....
[05:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: for i in {1..12}; do curl http://magpi.techjeeper.com/The-MagPi-issue-$i-en.pdf > The-MagPi-issue-$i-en.pdf; done
[05:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> wget would be better, though. do wget -c url; done
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, bans have a time length and the bot removes them I believe
[05:42] <BoomerBile> yeah had that installed ntzrmtthihu777 turns out it was the file had no sound lol
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: ah, gotcha.
[05:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: found something nice for ls :3
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> do tell
[05:43] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: oh no... the issues are on different sites ..... when i click on download it first goes to www.themagpi.com/issue/issue-2/pdf/ which then redirects to the actual file...on another site... issues 1 to 5 are on techjeeper but the rest are on different sites. Is there any way i can tell the wget command to follow the www.themagpi.com/issue/issue-XYZ/pdf/ and then download the pdf from the site/server..
[05:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: wget can follow links.
[05:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: a nice wrapper script around ls that can show octal file permissions :D
[05:45] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: so i tell it to go one level down and get the pdf?
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: if you can get a direct link to one (you can do that with your browser) you can figure out the output you need.
[05:46] <BoomerBile> wget -r or wget -R i forget which to "clone" the site ;)
[05:47] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: The output is pdf. I know that but do i tell it go one level down or something else??
[05:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nille: http://paste.debian.net/33569/
[05:47] <geirha> On a side note, there's a #wget channel; they'll probably know which options to use to get the result you want (or if it's possible with wget at all)
[05:48] <A1Recon> geirha: Thanks!!
[05:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: do you have a direct link? do all the links follow the same format? the use a for loop like I told you.
[05:48] <sunny_> hi friends
[05:49] <sunny_> when i install apche2 server on my system
[05:49] <sunny_> i got error
[05:49] <sunny_> like this
[05:49] <sunny_> root@ebiz123-Vostro-1540:/home/ebiz123# sudo apt-get install apache2 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   ant ant-optional antlr3 aspectj bsh bsh-gcj default-jdk-doc gcj-4.7-base   gcj-4.7-jre-lib javahelp2 jsvc junit junit-doc junit4 junit4-doc   libantlr-java libasm3-java libaspectj-java libbe
[05:49] <FloodBot1> sunny_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:49] <sunny_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054007/
[05:49] <sunny_> please help me
[05:51] <sunny_>     @FloodBot1 <@FloodBot1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054007/
[05:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> sunny_: FloodBot is a bot.
[05:52] <sunny_> ok bot
[05:52] <geirha> Hm. It aborts even though you answer "y"?
[05:52] <|ryan|> try n
[05:54] <geirha> Could be a localization issue
[05:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> execute with --force-yes?
[05:57] <sunny_> hi
[05:58] <sunny_> when i trying to apache restart
[05:58] <sunny_> it says
[05:58] <sunny_> No apache MPM package installed
[05:58] <sunny_> any one help me plz
[05:59] <A1Recon> Noone is there in #wget
[06:02] <sunny_> #ubuntuforums
[06:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: I gave you your solution, lol. hell you don't even need a for loop, just use shell expansion
[06:06] <sunny_> @bot
[06:06] <sunny_> bot
[06:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> wget -c magpi.techjeeper.com/The-MagPi-issue-{1..12}-en.pdf
[06:11] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: all links are not the same... some are on techjeeper and some on mythicbeasts and god knows where.... I want wget to follow the first link "www.themagpi.com/issue/issue-XYZ/pdf/" (replace XYZ with issue no.) and then download the pdf file
[06:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: I just downloaded 12 issues using the command I gave you.
[06:12] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: OK
[06:12] <A1Recon> sorry
[06:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: and thanks for letting me know of this, I've been intending to get a raspi at some point.
[06:16] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks for the help...
[06:17] <Capprentice> Sound Input does not lists any Input Devices "(i.e My Microphone), And In Output Profiles, I dont see the "Headphone" profile ! Can anyone help ? I have tried deleting .pulse in home to reset, but that did not worked !
[06:18] <Capprentice> Hello Anyone here ?
[06:19] <DeonP> good morning
[06:19] <bazhang> patience Capprentice
[06:19] <Capprentice> Im facing Sound Issues on Ubuntu 12.04. Can anyone help ?
[06:20] <homeaway> how do i connect with tor to this chatroom
[06:20] <bazhang> homeaway, ask about tor and sasl in #freenode
[06:22] <Ghostx562> Hello, I am thinking of installing ubuntu on my new laptop, that has HDMI output, will that still work to watch movies if i decide to use ubuntu?
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ghostx562: assuming you setup your video drivers right, yes.
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, I just setup tor.
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> *sasl
[06:23] <MrS1lentcz> hello, i have troubles with empathy client. i had set all accounts what i have, but it reports "xxx account requires authorisation". i have no contacts, but facebook plugin shows wall posts... how can it to do if it says that facebook account is not authorized?
[06:23] <Ghostx562> ntzrmtthuhu777, and the "hot Keys" will work as well? using the FN key?
[06:23] <MrS1lentcz> pidgin in linux mint on this notebook is ok
[06:24] <xmetal> .clear
[06:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ghostx562: I've had several machines with those, and they all worked for me. However, I've never used hdmi out, so I cannot say with 100% certainty that it will. But, I've heard many success stories.
[06:24] <xmetal> oops
[06:24] <xmetal> back
[06:25] <Ghostx562> ntzrmtthihu777, awesome, backing items up and will install and try it out.
[06:26] <Ghostx562> ntzrmtthihu777, you recommend 64 or 32 bit version. i've used ubuntu before, so will it be the same? also i don't have UEFI or Windows 8
[06:28] <qingluo> hello all, im dealing a small recovery mechanism for linux. master os use ubuntu kernel image, which i can't hack it. i need to enable input&output on both serial port and VGA! my bootargs is "console=ttymxc1,115200 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p6 rootwait" thus VGA can input and output, but ttymxc1(serial port) can't input. cause linux kernel unregister_console after boot up. how can i enable it? or append an bash for  it?
[06:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ghostx562: if your pc is capable of 64 bit use it.
[06:32] <NeonSpeed> Is there another site for themes other than gnome-look.org?
[06:32] <Ghostx562> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks!
[06:32] <furoido> #django
[06:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> NeonSpeed: xfce-look.org, kde-look.org, here and there.
[06:32] <qingluo> can any one help me? hello all, im dealing a small recovery mechanism for linux. master os use ubuntu kernel image, which i can't hack it. i need to enable input&output on both serial port and VGA! my bootargs is "console=ttymxc1,115200 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p6 rootwait" thus VGA can input and output, but ttymxc1(serial port) can't input. cause linux kernel unregister_console after boot up. how can i enable it? or append an bash for  it?
[06:33] <NeonSpeed> ntzrmtthihu777, Those themes will work with gtk3?
[06:33] <NeonSpeed> ntzrmtthihu777, I'm using unity Ubuntu 13.04
[06:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> NeonSpeed: can't say for all of them. xfce uses gtk, so they should. noobslab has a ppa for it, though.
[06:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> *for themes, though.
[06:34] <furoido> anyone knows django?
[06:34] <Ghostx562> the movie?
[06:34] <furoido> the framework
[06:34] <Ghostx562> guess not
[06:35] <furoido> i cant join the channel
[06:35] <Ghostx562> tried / join?
[06:35] <furoido> might not work
[06:35] <NeonSpeed> ntzrmtthihu777, Yea I've added the noobslab ppa and been through gnome-look.org but not liking most of the themes
[06:35] <furoido>  /join #django
[06:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> furoido: does it give you a message?
[06:35] <furoido> nothing
[06:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> NeonSpeed: dunno what to tell you. themeing is a matter of personal preference, not technical expertise, so I personally can't help much there. I use the dkgreen theme with azenis-green-icons
[06:36] <NeonSpeed> ntzrmtthihu777, Can I use themes for gtk2 on gtk3?
[06:36] <Ghostx562> furoido: try searching the channel list
[06:36] <furoido> ok thanks
[06:36] <Ghostx562> i found tons of channels just by searching.
[06:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> NeonSpeed: no clue.
[06:37] <NeonSpeed> Guess I'll have to try and hope nothing goes terribly wrong
[06:38] <NeonSpeed> The best way to learn new things is trial and error lol
[06:38] <furoido> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[06:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> furoido: identify yourself to nickserv, then you can join.
[06:41] <Capprentice> Im facing Sound Issues on Ubuntu 12.04. Can anyone help ? Sound Input does not lists any Input Devices "(i.e My Microphone), And In Output Profiles, I dont see the "Headphone" profile ! Can anyone help ? I have tried deleting .pulse in home to reset, but that did not worked !
[06:43] <uronu> hi, where could I find slapd.conf on ubuntu 12.04?
[06:43] <helmut_> hi
[06:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> uronu: not sure, but located slapd.conf would find it ;)
[06:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> *locate slapd.conf
[06:48] <Capprentice> Um ! Still Waiting for some one to Answer :(
[06:48] <uronu> ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks.
[06:52] <DeonP> any experts on xl2tpd online
[06:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | DeonP
[06:53] <ch1m3ra> !patience
[06:53] <DeonP> lol ok, i did ask last night bat ran out of patience waiting :)
[06:53] <find> Could any one have tried to log detail of sftp  implemented via sssh
[06:54] <Capprentice> Im facing Sound Issues on Ubuntu 12.04. Can anyone help ? Sound Input does not lists any Input Devices "(i.e My Microphone), And In Output Profiles, I dont see the "Headphone" profile ! Can anyone help ? I have tried deleting .pulse in home to reset, but that did not worked !
[06:55] <Capprentice> http://askubuntu.com/questions/106063/when-i-plug-in-headphones-my-speakers-mute-but-nothing-comes-from-the-headphon
[06:55] <|ryan|> You're using pulseaudio right?
[06:55] <Capprentice> Yes.
[06:56] <DeonP> ok the Q: i'm using xl2tpd to connect to my isp to get a static ip, not using ipsec. if i have a current pppoe connection it connects to the server but no traffic. without existing pppoe connection xl2tpd wont start pppd and create its own pppoe connection and connection to server fails
[06:56] <DeonP> hope thats enough info
[06:56] <|ryan|> Capprentice: sec
[06:57] <Capprentice> Here I've posted a question related to my problem : http://askubuntu.com/questions/340312/sound-problem-no-audio-input-is-shown-i-e-microphone-is-not-visible-neigher
[06:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> I think I'll call it a nite. later all
[06:59] <|ryan|> Capprentice: try wget loki.zf0.org/fix_pulseaudio.sh -O-|bash
[07:00] <NeonSpeed> Anybody know where I can get a clearlooks theme for gtk3 the one on gnome-look.org is down
[07:01] <JustAguy> goodmorning
[07:03] <Capprentice> @ | ryan |, What that script will do ?
[07:03] <|ryan|> it should automatically repair pulseaudio configurations Capprentice
[07:04] <Capprentice> Can I just run this command in terminal - "pulseaudio --dump-conf" ?
[07:05] <onca> So, I am being set back left and right here, I have half a mind to give in and accept linux as not my os of choice. I can't get vino to host my desktop when I have fglrx drivers installed.
[07:05] <|ryan|> I dont know
[07:05] <|ryan|> not particualarly familiar with the issue but that script fixed someone elses problem earlier
[07:05] <Ghostx562> !pulse
[07:05] <nerdtron> hi all! anyone can tell me how to make firefox use all cores? right now my cpu usage won't go higher than 50%
[07:06] <Ghostx562> nerdtron, do you really need it to eat up all the cores?
[07:06] <Capprentice> @ Ryan, Im getting "Unexpected End of File" !
[07:07] <nerdtron> Ghostx562, I have more than 50 tabs and when i render a CPU intensive page, it maxs out at 50%
[07:07] <A1Recon> nerdtron: 50 tabs?
[07:07] <Ghostx562> one sec
[07:08] <|ryan|> Capprentice: try |dash instead of |bash
[07:08] <nerdtron> A1Recon is there a limit on how many to use? I use the Group tabs feature in firefox
[07:08] <A1Recon> nerdtron: no limits i think...
[07:09] <nerdtron> A1Recon, that's is why i'm looking for a solution. I wish firefox can be faster, i don't want to switch to chrome
[07:09] <Ghostx562> nerdtron, seems like there isn't a way to change it
[07:09] <nerdtron> Ghostx562, ouch
[07:10] <Ghostx562> yeah, theres an open bug online in the ubuntu site, someone asking for it to be done.
[07:11] <Ghostx562> also seems to be a problem only with ubuntu.
[07:11] <NeonSpeed> I installed gnome-theme-extras from the Software Center how can I open it?
[07:12] <Ghostx562> search for it in the software center
[07:12] <Ghostx562> should pop up as installed
[07:12] <NeonSpeed> Ghostx562, Nothing popped up but it says it's installed in the Software Center
[07:13] <Ghostx562> maybe it installed as a different name?
[07:13] <Ghostx562> try going to settings and seeing if there is something under the theme/background menu
[07:16] <NeonSpeed> Ghostx562, I've looked in settings, Ubuntu Tweak, and Unity Tweak Tool and none of the themes it listed in the program are in there
[07:16] <Ghostx562> one sec
[07:18] <Ghostx562> neonspeed, i don't think you're supposed to open it, it might just be a tweak to allow for a theme
[07:19] <NeonSpeed> Ghostx562, But it supposed to add a couple themes and I can't find those themes
[07:20] <Ghostx562> what os?
[07:21] <NeonSpeed> Ubuntu 13.04
[07:21] <NeonSpeed> I'm thinking it might be for gtk2 or something
[07:23] <Ghostx562> k
[07:23] <Ghostx562> you should try this link
[07:23] <Ghostx562> http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/tweaksthings-to-do-after-install-of.html
[07:24] <Ghostx562> has some cool stuff, maybe you need to install something else for those themes to install
[07:26] <universal> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:26] <universal> what is it ?? and how to fix it ???
[07:26] <Ghostx562> probably.
[07:27] <Ghostx562> universal, try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem
[07:27] <NeonSpeed> Ghostx562, I found one of the themes it said it came with but no other ones
[07:28] <NeonSpeed> let me try to log out and back in
[07:28] <Ghostx562> go for it.
[07:28] <Ghostx562> brb gonna hit the john
[07:33] <onca> what can I do to have 3d rendering with fglrx drivers and also vino VNC server running?
[07:33] <onca> I tried looking through bug reports of this nature to find a fix but the suggestions failed to work
[07:34] <onca> I kinda need both. I am hard-pressed for time because I start school tomorrow and need both.
[07:36] <Ghostx562> sorry, i have no knowledge on that,
[07:36] <DeonP> i posted my q and more details on askubuntu , http://askubuntu.com/questions/340325/problem-connecting-to-isp-server-using-xl2tpd-as-client-ubuntu-server-13-04
[07:42] <uronu> Hello, I need help on how to allow ldap user to change password.
[07:44] <Ghostx562> uronu, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ldappasswd.1.html
[07:44] <Ghostx562> afk, reboot
[07:45] <uronu> Ghostx562 thanks, i'll try it.
[07:48] <uronu> ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Invalid credienttials (49)
[07:48] <uronu> additional info: SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database
[07:50] <sunny_> i have a problem on apache server
[07:50] <sunny_> when i restart the server
[07:50] <sunny_> it doesn't restart
[07:54] <NeonSpeed> Can somebody tell me which programs are safe to disable in startup applications?
[07:55] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: what have you got there so far?
[07:58] <uuball_gabriel> hi all, my linux mint cat make any sound, what's the problem?
[07:58] <histo> !mint | uuball_gabriel
[07:59] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, AT-SPI D-Bus Bus,Certificate key storage, files, gnome settings daemon, gpg password agent, gsettings data conversion, mount helper, network (I know this one has to stay), onboard, orca screen reader, policy authentication agent, pulseaudio sound system, secret storage service, ssh key agent, update notifier, user folders update, and seitgeist datahub
[07:59] <NeonSpeed> Sorry it took so long lol
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: well do you use orca screen reader? or does anything you use depend on it? if not you could disable that
[08:01] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, Not sure what that is, so I'm gonna guess I probably don't need it?
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: it reads things outloud for added accessibility
[08:02] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, Oh no I don't use that, so it safe to disable that?
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: should be
[08:02] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, Okay disabled, anything else I can disable?
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: if you're trying to net speed gains by doing this it isn't going to help much unless they are buggy
[08:03] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, No I'm trying to get my startup time as fast as possible
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: i'm sure there are better ways to go about this
[08:05] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, Like what? When I enter Ubuntu it takes some time to load and be ready for use
[08:05] <szahrat> hello silly ubuntu users
[08:05] <szahrat> using arch here
[08:06] <BallmerCurve> lol.  really?  you're going to come into a #ubuntu channel and talk about how you're leet because you use something else?
[08:06] <ajenkins> szahrat: stop trolling the ubuntu users =P they have to start somewhere
[08:06] <ajenkins> plus nothing wrong with ubuntu
[08:06] <BallmerCurve> ^ this
[08:07]  * xmetal has a policy to not feed trolls
[08:07] <BallmerCurve> ^ good policy
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: changing software, i assume you are using gnome or unity, there are lighter and faster DEs and WMs out there though i wouldn't change unless you don't like how it is now
[08:10] <visualise> who uses arch here?
[08:10] <visualise> did somebody mention arch?
[08:10] <visualise> why would anybody do that to themselves.. almost as bad as using gentoo
[08:10] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, I like the unity though, I have tried the other desktops and would like to stick to unity
[08:10] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: ok
[08:10] <xmetal> not sure what happened but in Mint, i found Cinnimon 1.8 slower then 1.6
[08:11] <xmetal> (just using an example)
[08:11] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, I disabled a couple things from startup that I read on a site so I'll see how it loads next time I restart
[08:11] <xmetal> so switching DE's may help
[08:11] <aeon-ltd> visualise: i wasn't the guy/girl but i use arch, it's a hassle sometimes but it's worth it
[08:11] <xmetal> (i am talking to the one finding certain DE's "slow")
[08:11] <visualise> aeon-ltd, how so? ubuntu seems to have packages for most everything :)
[08:12] <aeon-ltd> visualise: because bleeding edge
[08:12] <visualise> so ubuntu's packages are too out-dated for you?
[08:12] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu users have to keep doing major updates every 6 months to keep up or 18 months for lts, arch just keeps rolling ahead
[08:12] <xmetal> newer (in any oS) doesn't seem to always mean better
[08:12] <peter110> what command can i use from Ubuntu live cd to fix errors in ext4 partition?
[08:13] <szahrat> if you want rolling release why not migrate to arch linux
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> i am on arch
[08:13] <visualise> i don't mind spending an afternoon once every 6 months doing a dist-ugrade
[08:13] <szahrat> same here
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> also arch is a blank slate, the closest ubuntu has is the server install
[08:14] <histo> aeon-ltd: no you can do ubuntu minimal
[08:14] <histo> aeon-ltd: still not arch
[08:15] <histo> peter110: what's wrong with the ext4 partition? typically you would fsck
[08:15] <xmetal> i only do major updates every few versions
[08:15] <xmetal> no need to "get the latest, greatest" every single time
[08:15] <szahrat> ubuntu just can't compare with arch
[08:15] <histo> visualise: I'm also running Arch on my laptop.
[08:15] <szahrat> different philosophy
[08:16] <peter110> only fsck? the partition is on dev/sda6
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> i guess a bad experience once when i was updating from 8.04 to 8.10 ended up breaking my install has to do with my reasons for prefering rolling release
[08:16] <peter110> what exactly command to type?
[08:17] <visualise> i think if you're experienced enough to use arch, you're experienced enough to fix a broken dist-upgrade with some googling
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> !fsck
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> visualise: i wasn't then
[08:17] <xmetal> every so often i will do a major upgrade and when i download the deb's i back them up .. so i am good for awhile
[08:17] <xmetal> and i can just transfer them to another PC without having to redowlnoad for that PC too
[08:18] <peter110> thanks, i will try it
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> visualise: i only got good enough to use arch by using arch (if that makes sense) ubuntu stock hides so much of the system that you learn very little because it is configured for user simplicity
[08:18] <visualise> aeon-ltd, true
[08:19] <histo> Peterman: what is wrong with your filesystem?
[08:19] <histo> Peterman: actually, Why do you think somethign is wrong?
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> peter110 left
[08:21] <szahrat> so what de are u using on top of arch?
[08:21] <histo> i3wm
[08:22] <szahrat> gnome
[08:22] <aeon-ltd> dwm
[08:22] <aeon-ltd> sometimes openbox
[08:25] <histo> Thinking about going to debian for a while for no apparent reason just boredom.
[08:26] <szahrat> debian packages are all out of date
[08:27] <histo> szahrat: so. If it aint broke don't fix it.
[08:29] <szahrat> thats theory won't keep you moving
[08:30] <szahrat> with time
[08:31] <szahrat> debian feels artificial, and thats another problem
[08:31] <visualise> why move when you can snooze
[08:31] <visualise> did our ancestors work their asses off so their children and suffer working their asses off too??
[08:31] <visualise> i say to honour the dead we must be lazy-like in our approaches
[08:32] <jpds> !ot | visualise
[08:32] <szahrat> lol
[08:33] <jackarg> hey again! i'm about to install 13.04, I'm on 12.04. But at the same time I want to use the live cd to keep all my data on a home partition. How would I do that? Do I just need to create an ext4 partition and mount it at /home ? thanks
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !home
[08:33] <visualise> jpds, it annoys me though. there's so much bs about not causing problems which future generations will have to fix, then at the same time indoctrinating them in school to work their asses off and try to achieve everything.
[08:33]  * visualise rages quietly
[08:34] <bazhang> jackarg, the installer should have that option, to preserve home
[08:34] <jackarg> but bazhang will the installer create a seperate home partition? That's what i'm looking for
[08:35] <cfhowlett> jackarg, it will create a /home if you manually partition
[08:36] <jackarg> cfhowlett, ok and what are the steps breifly to create a home partition?
[08:36] <cfhowlett> jackarg, during installation, select manual partition, make a /home in the unpartitioned (free) space.
[08:36] <universal> how to list all processes with pid number ?
[08:37] <nerdtron> universal, ps -ef
[08:37] <jackarg> cfhowlett and change the used space to mount at "/"?
[08:37] <szahrat> im thinking of hardening up with grsecurity/pax
[08:37] <cfhowlett> jackarg, correct
[08:37] <jackarg> cfhowlett are there any complications if I'm about to install 13.04 right after?
[08:38] <universal> nerdtron: I dont remember but I used some other command......is ther any other command than this ?
[08:38] <nerdtron> universal, ps aux
[08:38] <nerdtron> or top
[08:38] <cfhowlett> jackarg, not that i know of.  creating a /home is a pretty standard operation.
[08:38] <ElFizbanio> so has anyone successfully ran Space Station 13 on ubuntu?
[08:39] <jackarg> cfhowlett ok thanks I'll backup my home and do that. Also, do you know any application that makes a log of all installed appliations so you an reinstall them on say 13.04 ?
[08:39] <jackarg> can*
[08:40] <cfhowlett> jackarg, there was a script that did that exact function but it seems to have vanished behind a paywall.  search around or ask in the channel.  one of these clever folk will have a notion, I'm sure.
[08:41] <jackarg> ok, I'll ask again more generally: Does anybody here know of a script or app that saves a log of all currently installed applications to reinstall them on another setup?
[08:41] <universal> nerdtron: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=7954a40
[08:42] <nerdtron> universal,  so you have another process using apt?
[08:42] <nerdtron> and you want to kill it?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> nerdtron, i'm guessing you have auto update running which would cause the lockup you are seeing
[08:44] <nerdtron> cfhowlett, i'm not the one asking, universal has showed me a screenshot
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> jackarg, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/best-way-to-backup-all-settings-list-of-installed-packages-tweaks-etc
[08:45] <cfhowlett> universal, if you have autoupdate running, that would invoke another apt process and would cause the type of lockup you are seeing
[08:45] <nerdtron> universal, your command to kill has wrong PID
[08:45] <jackarg> thanks wilee-nilee
[08:46] <ghostx562> :D
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> jackarg, no prob I just back up the sources, a key loader list and packages same as this one.
[08:46] <universal> cfhowlett: nerdtron I was removing ttf-mscorefonts-installer package and inbetween it was downloading flash.....wifi connection broke down and it stuck inbetween....now when i am doing it again its saying that process is locked down
[08:47] <ghostx562> universal, tried killing process?
[08:47] <cfhowlett> universal, reboot would kill it ...
[08:47] <nerdtron> universal, your command to kill has wrong PID
[08:48] <nerdtron> universal, the second column is the correct PID and also force kill it by kill -9 17001
[08:48] <universal> as you can see in the screenshot....its pid does not exist and ps -ef output is giving its pis as 17001
[08:48] <universal> hmm
[08:48] <ghostx562> universal, rebooting kills the process, try that?
[08:49] <gordonjcp> "kill -9" like in Tron Legacy ;-)
[08:49] <universal> kk
[08:49] <nerdtron> gordonjcp oh yeah!
[08:49] <igor__> всем привет
[08:50] <cfhowlett> igor__,
[08:50] <ghostx562> igor__  |ru
[08:50] <cfhowlett> !ru
[08:50] <universal> ghostx562: how about rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock file as specified in the page suggested by you http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem
[08:50] <igalic> hm?
[08:50] <ghostx562> reboot might also kill the process, or if not use the command posted on the thread see if it works.
[08:51] <universal> kill 17001 says operation not permitted.....so should I sudo it or kill -9 ??
[08:51] <histo> universal: sudo
[08:52] <universal> ok...what is this -9 for ??
[08:52] <ghostx562> dunno
[08:52] <ghostx562> sudo should work
[08:52] <histo> universal: it's the kill signal that can't be blocked
[08:53] <gordonjcp> universal: -9 means that kill should send signal 9 to the process
[08:53] <gordonjcp> universal: that means "stop now, don't bother about any cleanup, just die"
[08:54] <universal> kill -9 17001 :operation not permitted.......sudo killed it but again 3 more process left root     17010     1  0 Sep01 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 43 --force-depends --force-remove-essential --purge ttf-mscorefonts-inst root     17041 17010  0 Sep01 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/update-notifier-common.postinst triggered /usr/share/package-data-downl root     17042 17041  0 Sep01 ?        00:00:00 /us
[08:55] <Catbuntu> Are 64 bit versions less efficient?
[08:55] <universal> process 17010, 17041 and 17042
[08:55] <histo> Catbuntu: no
[08:55] <Catbuntu> I just read that in a blog, is that true?
[08:55] <Catbuntu> And why do they say it lol
[08:55] <histo> Catbuntu: No
[08:55] <histo> Catbuntu: because they don't understand
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, cause they know you'll believe it.
[08:55] <Catbuntu> haha
[08:56] <Catbuntu> I don't, I doubted it.
[08:56] <Catbuntu> I have only 3GB of RAM, but my CPU is x64 capable, should I use x64?
[08:56] <Catbuntu> The computer came with Vista x86
[08:56] <histo> Catbuntu: you can.
[08:56] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, might have better success with lubuntu or xubuntu 64
[08:56] <Catbuntu> Yeah now I use everything x64
[08:56] <histo> Catbuntu: x64 bit will use more RAM than 32bit but it will be faster.
[08:56] <Catbuntu> I see
[08:57] <universal> what about these process 17010, 17041 and 17042 ???
[08:57] <histo> Catbuntu: you are using 64bit memory addresses instead of 32bit etc...
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, 3 gigs ram is pretty minimal.  x/l/ubuntu are optimized for older and lower spec machines such as that.
[08:58] <Catbuntu> God no.
[08:58] <histo> universal: looks like dpkg and post installation stuff still running to me.
[08:58] <Mace268> ya think rythmbox will get a google music plugin?
[08:58] <Catbuntu> It's not that minimal, XFCE and LXDE are aimed to people with ~1GB of RAM.
[08:58] <universal> so what should I do with those processes ?? histo
[08:58] <Catbuntu> Last time I used Unity, I think 13.04 x64, it only took ~700MiB of RAM.
[08:59] <histo> universal: kill them if you want. I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish though.
[08:59] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, disagree.  ubuntustudio 64 is built on xubuntu ... and runs great, I might add on my dell 1545 2009 model with 4 gigs ram
[08:59] <Catbuntu> indeed cfhowlett
[08:59] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, but ... YMMV.
[09:00] <Catbuntu> No no I agree completely, even if you have 16GB of RAM, XFCE or LXDE are great DEs as well.
[09:00] <universal> histo: i was removing a package and it got interuppted....so when again i tried to uninstall it then it said it was locked.....so I killed its process 17001 before, now these 3 process are left
[09:00] <universal> i mean apt was locked
[09:01] <Catbuntu> But I meant that while Unity is for people with enough RAM, Xfce and LXDE don't require that much RAM thus they're suitable for people who can't run Untiy
[09:01] <Catbuntu> And I can run Unity besides its buggyness
[09:01] <histo> universal: then kill those as well and try removing it.
[09:01] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, got it.
[09:03] <universal> ok
[09:05] <newhoa> Does anyone know how "stress -c 4" or whatever number is different than running an mprime/prime95 torture test? I'm testing an OC and mprime fails immediately, but the system is totally stable with the stress -c command.
[09:06] <universal> also how to remove a wifi connection from network connections......there are 3 connections and when i am trying to delete any one then nothings happening
[09:07] <histo> universal: right click NM > edit connections > Wifi tab > delete
[09:10] <histo> universal: nmcli c  in a terminal should list the connections. then you can nmcli c delete id WhateverID
[09:10] <universal> histo: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=6223735
[09:10] <universal> when i am deleting any one connection....nothing happening
[09:10] <histo> universal: or remove it from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[09:11] <universal> whats this etc folder stands for in ubuntu ?
[09:11] <histo> universal: sudo rm "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/MyNet 1"
[09:12] <histo> universal: it's where all your system wide configs are stored
[09:14] <universal> hmm...ok
[09:14] <universal> et-config ?
[09:14] <universal> what "et" stands for ?
[09:15] <histo> universal: et cetera
[09:15] <universal> lol
[09:15] <histo> is etc
[09:15] <histo> I don't know how else to explain it.
[09:16] <universal> so is /etc/ named after et cetera ?
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> et caetera
[09:16] <histo> yes
[09:16] <wilee-nilee> emotively tangoing cats
[09:16] <universal> surprising
[09:16] <histo> universal: are you familial with the latin phrase?
[09:16] <evenflow> hi, i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and now eth0 shows as down no matter what i do, anyone familiar with this?
[09:17] <universal> yea....
[09:17] <rroland> howdy
[09:17] <histo> evenflow: are you using network manger to configure connections?
[09:17] <universal> sounds like all the "EXTRA" system stuff goes in /etc/ ??
[09:17] <evenflow> no, machine has no X
[09:17] <rroland> just started ubuntu for the first time
[09:18] <cfhowlett> rroland, greetings
[09:18] <evenflow> histo, i saw in google something related to these interfaces being not managed, but there's no network-manager afaik
[09:19] <histo> evenflow: is this a server install?
[09:19] <universal> evenflow: do lshw in terminal....look for its driver.....do sudo rmmod <driver> and then sudo modprobe <same-driver>
[09:19] <histo> evenflow: then add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[09:19] <evenflow> histo, did that, doesnt work
[09:19] <evenflow> universal: didnt work either
[09:19] <histo> evenflow: pastebin yoru interfaces file
[09:20] <evenflow> its e1000, i rmmod and modprobe e1000, i see the interface, there's light from behind, but link is perm. down
[09:20] <rroland> where might I go to talk about ubuntu crashing on my  uefi intel haswell pc
[09:20] <torub> i'm having the same error as this guy after tor-browser was upgraded: http://askubuntu.com/questions/336481/tor-browser-opens-with-and-unexpected-error-window is there a way to fix it? the answer doesn't help because ~/.tor-browser doesn't exist anymore (not does the executable tor-browser)
[09:20] <universal> maybe your router's link is down ?
[09:20] <universal> check it
[09:20] <histo> evenflow: well if you can post your interfaces file to paste.ubuntu.com we can point you towards the error
[09:20] <evenflow> histo, i have an identical machine here (before the upgrade, so ill post its interfaces) sec..
[09:21] <histo> evenflow: no you need to post teh machine with the issues
[09:21] <evenflow> its the same interfaces file...
[09:21] <histo> evenflow: ifconfig eth0 manually and post the interfaces file
[09:21] <universal> histo: what "cli" stands for in nmcli ??
[09:21] <evenflow> the machine is in a server room without network, so its easier this way  :)
[09:21] <histo> evenflow: sudo ifup eth0 && sudo dhclient
[09:21] <evenflow> histo, doesnt work
[09:21] <histo> universal: command line
[09:22] <histo> evenflow: erro?
[09:22] <universal> hm
[09:22] <histo> s/erro/error/
[09:22] <evenflow> lemme paste the interface in pastebin for you
[09:25] <evenflow> http://pastebin.com/LdqPrhQ5
[09:26] <histo> evenflow: does ifconfig show eth0?
[09:26] <evenflow> yes
[09:26] <evenflow> shows as down
[09:26] <jnq> has anyone ever had trouble with an install ignoring the static network config in a kickstart file?  my install still goes to dhcp
[09:27] <histo> evenflow: well ensure that is infact your interfaces file and sudo services networking restart
[09:27] <histo> !kickstart | jnq
[09:27] <evenflow> another thing i must say, i upgraded from 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 all  worked great, when i moved from 11.10 -> 12.04 this happend.
[09:27] <jnq> histo: ta
[09:27] <histo> evenflow: Have you actuall diff'd the interfaces files?
[09:28] <evenflow> histo... that does not work
[09:28] <universal> histo: network connections gui shows connections but not shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0003b56
[09:28] <histo> evenflow: look at dmesg for any errors?
[09:29] <histo> universal: then remove them with nmcli like I said
[09:29] <universal> nmcli c delete id ??
[09:29] <histo> universal: nmcli c del id "MyNet 1"
[09:29] <evenflow> i dont think diffing the files will help here, since the interface does get the correct ip and everything, its just that it is down
[09:29] <histo> evenflow: what happens when you ifup eth0?
[09:30] <evenflow> nothing
[09:30] <evenflow> it stays down
[09:30] <universal> histo: and why is it acting like this.....it was good until yesterday ?
[09:30] <evenflow> dmesg says something about link down
[09:30] <evenflow> i can tell you exactly, (trying to save walking to the server room :)
[09:30] <histo> universal: no idea.
[09:30] <PMJP> hello people
[09:30] <histo> evenflow: how are you connected to this box if the network is down?
[09:31] <evenflow> i am not, as i said, i go to the server room
[09:31] <evenflow> kvm..
[09:32] <histo> evenflow: What is the output of sudo ifup eth0 ?
[09:32] <universal> evenflow: the same is happening with my wifi....but simple disabling and reenabling network does the trick....if not then rmmod and modprobe <driver> bring it back online
[09:33] <histo> universal: which wifi chipset are you using?
[09:33] <histo> universal: lspci | grep Network
[09:33] <evenflow> universal, it doesnt help in my case
[09:33] <universal> broadcom bcm 1413
[09:33] <evenflow> histo, ill go check and brb
[09:34] <histo> !bcm | universal
[09:34] <universal> yea its 4313...and not 1413 srry
[09:34] <histo> universal: did you install firmware?
[09:34] <universal> noo
[09:35] <universal> i checked but i was not able to find any firmware,,,,,and the only driver supporting it seems to be wl
[09:35] <histo> universal: go to the additional drivers dialog
[09:35] <universal> i tried brcmsmac also....but its not working
[09:37] <PMJP> what is mir?
[09:37] <jpds> !mir | PMJP
[09:37] <cfhowlett> universal, the linux broadcom driver is available at their website ...
[09:38] <universal> histo: yes its enabled....but is there any other way coz i think speed is a lot less than what should be cfhowlett
[09:38] <histo> cfhowlett: the wl driver is their driver from what I understand.
[09:39] <universal> cfhowlett: broadcom site gives source, that too 2-3 years old
[09:39] <universal> histo: is there any firmware ?
[09:39] <PMJP> thank you
[09:41] <universal> ????
[09:41] <histo> universal: what is the issue you are experiencing?
[09:42] <universal> speed is a lot less than with the same card on windows....less than half
[09:43] <PMJP> I like to move to ubuntu but I am afraid I will have problems once I install it
[09:44] <histo> PMJP: then boot to the installation dvd and test it out
[09:44] <cfhowlett> PMJP, wait, you haven't even tried it .. and you're scared?  best you stick to windows then.
[09:44] <NeverHere> lol
[09:44] <chgojoe> how do you change channels in irc?
[09:44] <evenflow> histo: ifup eth0    says interface eth0 already configured
[09:44] <NeverHere> chgojoe, /join #channel
[09:45] <histo> PMJP: you can run in live mode from the installation media without installing and changes willb e lost at reboot without harming your disk.
[09:45] <chgojoe> i want to go to the linux mint channel
[09:45] <chgojoe> to get some help
[09:45] <cfhowlett> !mint|chgojoe,
[09:46] <PMJP> It works fine just unlucky in the past
[09:46] <chgojoe> yean my install of ubuntu really sucked ass
[09:46] <universal> PMJP: you'll have a lot of errors for sure but help and troubleshooting is alot better than windows that too everything free of charge.....plus no malwares, virus etc....decide for urself
[09:46] <cfhowlett> chgojoe, you did say you wanted mint.  #linuxmint-help is the channel for you.
[09:47] <chgojoe> join/ linuxmint-help
[09:47] <PMJP> well my problem is graphics
[09:47] <chgojoe> join/ #linuxmint-help
[09:47] <cfhowlett> PMJP, boot the live cd.  test ubuntu.  or don't.
[09:48] <universal> PMJP: install right drivers and test
[09:48] <cfhowlett> PMJP, pretty hard to diagnose/solve an imaginary problem.  come back with data maybe?
[09:48] <chgojoe> join/ #linuxmint-help
[09:48] <PMJP> sorry I was getting to that
[09:48] <chgojoe> crap how do i get to that server?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> chgojoe, type   /join #linuxmint-help
[09:49] <chgojoe> ty
[09:50] <PMJP> I am running WoW in Wine but I only get 13fps I was wondering if there was a way to make it better
[09:50] <cfhowlett> !wine|PMJP,
[09:50] <universal> !WoW
[09:50] <aeon-ltd> PMJP: run windows? :)
[09:50] <PMJP> using the latest drivers from AMD
[09:51] <universal> PMJP: maybe downgrade your driver a version or two
[09:51] <PMJP> hmm
[09:52] <universal> sometimes latest drivers conflict with systems
[09:52] <universal> tune your settings
[09:52] <PMJP> thank you universal
[09:55] <PMJP> Im sorry for annoying you guys
[09:55] <cfhowlett> PMJP, no apologies needed
[09:55] <NeverHere> PMJP, thats what this channel is for, questions
[09:56] <PMJP> I just wanted to play wow without having to duel boot
[09:57] <PMJP> though having a AMD APU doesnt help I think
[09:57] <NeverHere> PMJP, I use a LiveUSB to run Ubuntu on any desktop, it saves to the USB stick so everything stays, and i didn't have to dual boot my laptop
[09:58] <PMJP> oh I didnt know you can do that
[09:58] <narcos> Hi all. I'm trying to get hostapd running on Ubuntu by following this tutorial: http://nims11.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/hostapd-the-linux-way-to-create-virtual-wifi-access-point/. When starting the service I get : " * Starting advanced IEEE 802.11 management hostapd [fail]". I can't seem to find any logs in dmesg or syslog - any ideas?
[09:58] <PMJP> is that what a persistence file is?
[09:59] <Axlin> PMJP, Assuming you're using the proprietary drivers for your video card, have you enabled OpenGL in WoW?
[09:59] <NeverHere> PMJP, not sure, but I would make sure your USB drive is 8 gb or more, there is a tutorial on the Ubuntu website for making a Live USB after you start the download of the ISO
[09:59] <PMJP> alright thanks
[09:59] <PMJP> Axlin where is that option?
[10:02] <Axlin> In config.wtf in the WTF directory inside your install directory there should be a line which reads SET gxApi "d3d". You'll change d3d to OpenGL
[10:02] <mcantsin> good day. how can I write 0-data to a drive after partitioning, using mkfs?
[10:02] <mcantsin> or should I just run dd?
[10:03] <mcantsin> (can't find the option in "man mkfs.ext3")
[10:03] <nerdtron> mcantsin dd if=/dev/nul of=/dev/sdx
[10:04] <PMJP> ok thanks Axlin
[10:04] <nerdtron> then sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx to format it to ext4
[10:04] <mcantsin> nerdtron: thanks. thought so just using dd. - there is no option in mkfs ?
[10:04] <mcantsin> nerdtron: rgr
[10:04] <mcantsin> s/rgr/roger
[10:04] <nerdtron> what's rgr?
[10:04] <nerdtron> ok
[10:04] <ghostx562> rgr!
[10:04] <mcantsin> nerdton: aviation slang ;)
[10:04] <ghostx562> !rgr
[10:04] <mcantsin> lol
[10:05] <mcantsin> nerdtron thanks
[10:05] <ghostx562> !OT
[10:05] <nerdtron> mcantsin, don't thank me yet, you'll be pulling out your hair waiting for dd to wipe the whole drive :D
[10:06] <nerdtron> mcantsin, you can just run sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx and the partition will be formatted
[10:07] <PMJP> see you later guys
[10:07] <mcantsin> nerdtron: sure. the issue is that I have a broken hard-drive which I can send back to the manufacturer for exchange but I want to make sure they cant read data. dd only writes to the writable blocks, and stops at the broken ones...
[10:07] <PMJP> thanks for everything
[10:07] <mcantsin> nerdtron: is there a way to "surpass" the broken blocks using dd?
[10:08] <mhr> I am trying to make a deb file for a package from its source, and getting this error : dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libhtp-0.2.so.1 needed by debian/cs-suricata/usr/sbin/suricata (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: '').
[10:08] <mcantsin> nerdtron: I know dd takes a while to write data for large drives, that doesnt matter
[10:08] <nerdtron>  broken block? what is that?
[10:09] <nerdtron> mcantsin, does your drive has unhealthy sectors?
[10:09] <mcantsin> nerdtron: well there seems to be a physical problem with the disk. so dd stops after 5.2 GB on a 2TB drive
[10:09] <mcantsin> nerdtron: excatly
[10:09] <mhr> I am using ubuntu server 12.04
[10:10] <mcantsin> s/excatly/exactly
[10:10] <nerdtron> mcantsin, hhmmm oh, you don't want them to read you data... no idea sorry, i'll just send them the drive and wait for it come back :)
[10:10] <mcantsin> nerdtron: so I would like dd to surpass the "unhealthy" sectors, continueing on the "healthy" ones
[10:11] <mcantsin> nerdtron: well but there is sensitive data on the disk...
[10:11] <mcantsin> nerdtron: there is a minor chance the manufacturer could forensically read some data...
[10:12] <nerdtron> mcantsin, recovering data from a bad disk is very difficult. they won't vother make an effort unless it is really "worth it"
[10:12] <mcantsin> nerdtron: FYI: I have full backup of the data so that is not the issue...
[10:12] <nerdtron> *bother
[10:12] <mcantsin> nerdtron: ok
[10:12] <mcantsin> nerdtron: thanks anyways...
[10:12] <nerdtron> mcantsin, ok goodluck with that..
[10:13] <mcantsin> sure. That is why I asked if mkfs has an option because it writes a fs on the healthy sectors only, whereas dd stops at the unhealthy sectors...
[10:14] <grimeton> mcantsin: ddrescue
[10:14] <mcantsin> grimeton: thanks
[10:15] <universal> not a single connection shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but 3 connections still shown in edit connections gui.....did nmcli c del id <connection> but to no avail
[10:15] <frinott> what does it mean to start a var. assignment with ! in a makefile? like  !CONFIG_XYZ=yes
[10:16] <grimeton> frinott: are you sure you're in a make file?
[10:17] <grimeton> frinott: http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#toc_Using-Variables
[10:18] <mhr> I am trying to make a deb file for a package from its source, and getting this error : dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libhtp-0.2.so.1 needed by debian/cs-suricata/usr/sbin/suricata (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: '').
[10:18] <grimeton> mhr: apt-file search libhtp-0.2.so.1
[10:19] <nerdtron> universal, i don't have a file  /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections
[10:21] <universal> not a single connection shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but 3 connections still shown in edit connections gui.....did nmcli c del id <connection> but to no avail
[10:22] <mhr> grimeton, it gives me this --:libhtp1: /usr/lib/libhtp-0.2.so.1
[10:22] <mhr> libhtp1: /usr/lib/libhtp-0.2.so.1.0.2
[10:22] <grimeton> mhr: then install libhtp1
[10:22] <furoido> whats wrong with this?
[10:22] <furoido>         user = super(RegisterForm, self).save(*args, *kwargs)
[10:22] <grimeton> mhr: and add the lib to the debian/control file as dependency
[10:23] <grimeton> furoido: #python ?
[10:23] <furoido> grimeton: yeah. it says syntaxerror in django
[10:24] <gordonjcp> furoido: off the top of my head, you probably mean **kwargs
[10:24] <gordonjcp> furoido: you'd be better asking in #django though
[10:24] <grimeton> furoido: i meant ask in #python ;)
[10:24] <furoido> oh wrong channel here hehe
[10:24] <gordonjcp> furoido: also, without the error message it's impossible to give much of an answer
[10:25] <mhr> grimeton, actually libhtp is a package which is installed by main package by default, during normal installation of the main package only ldconfig is to be executed. but during the deb file creation of main package I got the error.
[10:26] <mhr> grimeton, do you think it is good to install libhtp manually?
[10:27] <grimeton> mhr: are the libs all for i386? or are you building on x64?
[10:28] <mhr> grimeton, I am not sure of that, I guess its for i386, Is there a way to check that quickly?
[10:28] <grimeton> mhr: uname -a
[10:30] <grimeton> parted magic is now available for 5 bucks.us only :D
[10:30] <mhr> grimeton, last few parts says:  i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[10:30] <grimeton> mhr: then you're fine
[10:31] <grimeton> mhr: is there a libhtp-0.2* in your system already?
[10:32] <aryans> IOMMU Pagefault on logout , login
[10:32] <aryans> can anyone help
[10:32] <alexa> I can't run adb. It's installed but it shows no device
[10:33] <alexa> I followed the tutorial about connecting android device to PC. editing rules.d/51-android.rules
[10:34] <mhr> grimeton, find gives me --: ./libhtp/htp/.libs/libhtp-0.2.so.1
[10:34] <alexa> but it just doesn't show my device when adb devices typed
[10:34] <grimeton> mhr: ah, that's not an official path - so it's not visible in the include/lib statements of the package built
[10:35] <grimeton> mhr: you should only built packages against system wide available versions of libraries
[10:35] <grimeton> mhr: or provide the library in an extra package
[10:35] <grimeton> mhr: because everyone that installs your package later won't have the libhtp you have ...
[10:36] <mhr> grimeton, how can i do that with extra package?
[10:36] <aryans> Ubuntu login logout gives IOMMU Page fault and then system craches
[10:36] <grimeton> mhr: if i were you i'd install the ubuntu libhtp and then try to built the package against the ubuntu version and see what happens
[10:36] <Aaruni> if I want someone not on my local network to be able to connect to my computer, how can I ?
[10:37] <grimeton> Aaruni: there are multiple possibilities: port forwarding, vpn, direct connect ...
[10:37] <Aaruni> not sure if correct place for support. but I guess something to do with router port forwarding
[10:38] <grimeton> yeah, port forwarding then
[10:38] <grimeton> Aaruni: read the router's manual
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni  sounds like an ip tables thing, block an IP address
[10:40] <Aaruni> MonkeyDust: can I PM, because not really ubuntu support...
[10:40] <mhr> grimeton, in normal installation of a package if one has to explicitely run ldconfig command, which/where should the ldconfig command be executed you think?
[10:40] <grimeton> mhr: there is no need todo that
[10:40] <grimeton> mhr: you only do that because your libhtp is not in a default location
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni  no, in case I should say something wrong, keep it in the channel or do some reading, first
[10:41] <grimeton> mhr: /etc/ld.so.conf has been modified to reflect your custom setup
[10:41] <Aaruni> ok, MonkeyDust I think I have to configure something in the router settings, but I don't know what.
[10:41] <mhr> grimeton, thank you so much...
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni  again: do some reading about networking
[10:42] <Aaruni> ok
[10:43] <DJones> Aaruni: This should help you get started http://portforward.com/ forwarding your ports from your router
[10:43] <universal> not a single connection shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but 3 connections still shown in edit connections gui.....did nmcli c del id <connection> but to no use
[10:43] <universal> histo: ^^^
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni  https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/ip-tables-how-to-block-range-of-ip-address-from-ip-table-947696/
[10:45] <grimeton> MonkeyDust: you got the question right?
[10:45] <Aaruni> MonkeyDust: I think DJones' link is apt. I want to enable outside connections, not block anything
[10:46] <Aaruni> DJones: got a manual for my particular router. thanks!
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> i misread this part "someone not on my local network"
[10:49] <jackarg> hey, could i have some immediate help? I'm currently updating to 13.04 with the live image and I would like to create a seperate home partition while doing so. So I now see dev/sda2 which is ext4 and has everything on it. What do i do to split that into a root and home partition? exact steps would be great! thanks
[10:49] <ikonia> jackarg: you need to do that seperate from the upgrade
[10:50] <ikonia> jackarg: boot from livemedia, resize the partition, create a new partition, sync the home directory to that new partition, update your fstab to mount home from the new place
[10:50] <aryans> ubuntu 12.04  gives IOMMU page fault and crashes with blue screen of death when I logout and login. Can anyone helo
[10:50] <ikonia> jackarg: once this is working remove the old data on the old /home
[10:50] <ikonia> aryans: ubuntu doesn't have a blue screen of death, please explain truthfully
[10:51] <skapism> This is not directly related to ubuntu, but I have a file containing 8 hex digits in its name, anyone happen to know what checksum algo I would need to verify it?
[10:51] <jackarg> ikonia: yes i know i chose the "something else" option to edit the partitions but what do i do now? sorry having difficulty typing (im on ipod)
[10:52] <ikonia> jackarg: shrink your existing partition to allow it to be split
[10:52] <ikonia> jackarg: you may find this easier from the gparted live media if you are not comfortable with the current media
[10:54] <universal> not a single connection shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but 3 connections still shown in edit connections gui.....did nmcli c del id <connection>........connections still shown in edit connections gui with full password and not getting deleted
[10:56] <co-XZist>   /part
[10:56] <universal> looks like deleting connection entry from edit connections gui deletes them from /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but not from gui.....how to fix it ?
[10:57] <ax562> hello
[10:57] <skapism> any idea anyone?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> skapism: you can use the md5sum command to calculate MD5 hash of the file
[10:58] <grimeton> 8 digit hash sumss?
[10:58] <grimeton> seriously?
[10:58] <jackarg> ok ikonia im back sorry :) can you repeat? also, can i do this from the live cd or not? if not i'll upgrade and do it later but that may be harder
[10:58] <lyoko1> Hi, I have a friend who needs to upgrade from 11.10 to 13.04 (or at least 12.04 LTS). How can this be done?
[10:58] <aryans> ikonia: I am telling you what I saw....
[10:58] <skapism> ActionParsnip: no, I mean, I have a file with say [AAAAAAAA] in its name. but I have no idea what they used to create the hash
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> lyoko1: you can grab the Precise ISO and boot to it, you will be offered an upgrade
[10:59] <ikonia> aryans: try again, you saw wrong
[10:59] <skapism> grimeton: yes
[10:59] <grimeton> skapism: are you sure that it really represents a hash?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> skapism: contact the author
[10:59] <skapism> grimeton: yup, sure.
[10:59] <skapism> ActionParsnip: unforunately, the author is not available
[10:59] <grimeton> lyoko1: or use the update manager
[11:00] <jackarg> just copy and paste ikonia
[11:00] <grimeton> skapism: so how was that hash generated?
[11:00] <skapism> grimeton: that's just the question I asked
[11:00] <fly56> irc.darksin.net
[11:00] <aryans> I logged in Ubuntu 12.04, It logged in, then I logged out and tried to login again, now this time a message appeared that MSM_IOMMU: uNEXPECTED iOMMU PAGE FAULT
[11:01] <grimeton> skapism: you can only tell that it is a hash if you know how it's been generated ...
[11:01] <grimeton> skapism: and i can't remember a tool that generates 8 digit wide hashes
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> skapism: you can generate hashes in many ways, there is no way of knowing just by the actual hash itself
[11:01] <universal> not a single connection shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but 3 connections still shown in edit connections gui.....did nmcli c del id <connection>........connections still shown in edit connections gui with full password and not getting deleted
[11:01] <universal> looks like deleting connection entry from edit connections gui deletes them from /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but not from gui.....how to fix it ?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> aryans: have you looked online for what the error means?
[11:02] <skapism> grimeton: yes. but it is pretty probable.
[11:02] <grimeton> skapism: get your set of hash generating tools and test on after eachother and see what happens
[11:02] <lyoko1> Ok thanks, I'll tell him to upgrade to 12.04, probably a safer bet
[11:02] <grimeton> if you see a hash that matches be happy
[11:03] <aryans> IOMMU is related to virtual to physical address conversion. but why this message occurred is nowhere to be seen
[11:03] <jackarg> can anyone here help? I'm trying to pake a seperate home partition while upgrading from 12.04. I am on the 13.04 live mage right now. anyone?
[11:03] <skapism> grimeton: I actually tested with cksum, md5sum and sha1sum (assuming they simply took the last 8 hex digits)
[11:03] <universal> anyone ???
[11:04] <jackarg> universal whats your prob
[11:04] <universal> not a single connection shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but 3 connections still shown in edit connections gui.....did nmcli c del id <connection>........connections still shown in edit connections gui with full password and not getting deleted
[11:04] <universal> looks like deleting connection entry from edit connections gui deletes them from /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but not from gui.....how to fix it ?
[11:04] <universal> jackarg: ^^^^
[11:05] <grimeton> for i in $(openssl dgst -h |& grep "to use" | awk '{print $1}' | sed -E 's/-(.*)/\1/g'); do openssl $i $your_file_here; done
[11:05] <jackarg> universal yeah sorry i dont know
[11:05] <grimeton> skapism: ^
[11:06] <NET||abuse> hi folks, i'm having trouble getting a desktop file i made in .local/share/applicatoins/  to show up in unity application search lens
[11:06] <universal> anyone else ??
[11:07] <linux> hehe
[11:08] <linux> tai kuai le
[11:09] <universal> anyone else ??
[11:09] <linux> jack hao a you!
[11:10] <Voidvoid> hello everybody
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> universal: if you log off and on, are they gone?
[11:11] <universal> ActionParsnip: no
[11:11] <chalcedony> good to see you ActionParsnip *hugs*
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> universal: are they present for all users (make a new user if necessary)
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: howdy :)
[11:11] <universal> it looks like they are glued there
[11:11] <Johnny_Linux> try rebooting and or logout
[11:12] <chalcedony> i'm trying to install znc on ubuntu 13.04 - sudo apt-get install .. but it needs the name of the ubuntu, what's it called?
[11:12] <Voidvoid> im having some problems executing rapidsvn i can install it without problem but when i execute it doesnt open and if i open it from console i get the next message "rapidsvn: error while loading shared libraries: libsvn_subr-1.so.1"  it seems to be something with the libs but i cant fix it could anyone help me plz
[11:12] <grimeton> chalcedony: what's the name of the ubuntu?
[11:12] <universal> Johnny_Linux: tried that also....no use
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: cat /etc/issue    will tell you the release name
[11:12] <chalcedony> ah
[11:12] <chalcedony> ty
[11:12] <grimeton> Voidvoid: apt-cache search libsvn_subr-1
[11:13] <grimeton> Voidvoid: eeer apt-file search libsvn_subr-1
[11:13] <Voidvoid> let me try it
[11:14] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, it just says Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[11:14] <universal> Johnny_Linux: any other ideas ?? ActionParsnip
[11:14] <chalcedony> is there a recent znc in nautilus?
[11:17] <jackarg> ok last try please help me. how do I create a seperate home partition while upgrading to 13.04. I have all my files on the main partition. do i just substract space from it, and mount the remaining space at /home and that's it? please someone just say yes or no
[11:17] <grimeton> jackarg: yes
[11:17] <grimeton> jackarg: shrink the existing partition to make space for another one
[11:17] <chalcedony> the example command is:  sudo apt-get install znc/quantal-backports  - quantal wouldn't apply to Raring-Ringtail or do i put all of that?
[11:17] <grimeton> then create another one and put your home there
[11:17] <grimeton> jackarg: then be happy
[11:17] <grimeton> jackarg: it's important to SHRINK the partition and NOT to delete it
[11:17] <grimeton> the later will kill everything
[11:18] <grimeton> latter
[11:18] <jackarg> grimeton and there is no problem after? no additional steps? i had someone else here telling me all sorts of things
[11:18] <Voidvoid> grimeton
[11:18] <grimeton> jackarg: shrinking a partition is abit complicated: shrink the filesystem, shrink the partition (the order is important)
[11:18] <Voidvoid> it doesnt find anything
[11:18] <grimeton> Voidvoid: is the apt-file cache up2date?
[11:18] <grimeton> Voidvoid: run apt-file update
[11:18] <Voidvoid> i have installed svnlib1  but still it doesnt work
[11:19] <grimeton> libsvn_subr-1.so.1 is in libsvn1 on my ubuntu
[11:20] <jackarg> grimeton lol ok lets just do it this way: I click on /dev/sda2 where all my gigs are. its mounted on / and has ubuntu 12.04 as system. i click change. then i see the megasbytes and to the right is a minus. i click the minus according to the space i want and thats all?
[11:20] <Voidvoid> ive installed it but when i try to execute it .. doesnt work :/
[11:21] <grimeton> jackarg: yeah, sometimes it's that easy
[11:21] <grimeton> Voidvoid: can you paste the error message on a paste service?
[11:21] <jackarg> grimeton sometimes?
[11:21] <jackarg> grimeton then i make it ext4 and mount it at /home and its done?
[11:22] <grimeton> jackarg: after the partition has been shrinked you create another one (e.g. sda3) and then create your /home on it
[11:22] <Voidvoid> grime i havent do that with apt file but the error i got its rapidsvn: error while loading shared libraries: libsvn_subr-1.so.1
[11:23] <jackarg> grimeton well if i shrink it there is automatically unallocated space somewhere else no?
[11:23] <grimeton> Voidvoid: which release?
[11:23] <Voidvoid> ubuntu 12.04
[11:23] <grimeton> jackarg: you shrink the fs and then you shrink the partiton (TWO STEPS !)
[11:23] <goodluck> help
[11:23] <jackarg> grimeton which is which?
[11:23] <grimeton> Voidvoid: install apt-file and verify that the file is in the package
[11:24] <grimeton> jackarg: ?
[11:24] <Voidvoid> ok ill do that 1 sec
[11:24] <jackarg> grimeton which is the one i just described?
[11:24] <grimeton> jackarg: let's do it in a different way: after you resized the actual fs/partition - is there free space available?
[11:25] <thom_ass> quit
[11:25] <jackarg> grimeton ok let me do it hold on
[11:25] <thom_ass> exit
[11:25] <skapism> oh well, cksfv did the job
[11:25] <thom_ass> end
[11:25] <jackarg> whats the minimum size grimeton?
[11:25] <thom_ass> quit
[11:25] <thom_ass> leave
[11:25] <grimeton> jackarg: of what?
[11:25] <Johnny_Linux>  /
[11:25] <DJones> thom_ass: Its /quit
[11:26] <jackarg> i put 20gb and it says its under the minimum idk
[11:26] <jackarg> grimeton ^
[11:26] <grimeton> jackarg: if you have 30gb of data on the partition you can't shrink it below that size
[11:26] <jackarg> right. ok hold on. brb
[11:27] <gulzar> getting this http://pastebin.com/dJUcg5zS what tot do?
[11:28] <grimeton> gulzar: remove the 403 files, check why you get a 403 or fix the user/password setup
[11:29] <gvo> gulzar might try apt-get update
[11:29] <gulzar> grimeton: I did "clean" and re downloaded all files continuously but same eror
[11:29] <chalcedony> got it!
[11:30] <gulzar> gvo: tried many times ..no effect
[11:30] <grimeton> gulzar: you don't have access to some files in your upgrade list ... that can have multiple reasons. if you just want to get rid of the error, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the urls that point to that repo out
[11:30] <grimeton> gulzar: after that run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and check again
[11:32] <inti> hello someone there how has knowlege about 3D-diagramms?
[11:33] <gulzar> grimeton: which one to comment? The list is not specific.
[11:34] <grimeton> gulzar: hmm, interesting ... on a closer look it turns out that there might be a problem on the mirror - maybe an update lock
[11:34] <grimeton> gulzar: wait a few minutes and try again
[11:34] <gulzar> grimeton: this problem is since yesterday...
[11:34] <gulzar> grimeton: What if IO change the mirror?
[11:34] <grimeton> gulzar: give it a shot
[11:35] <grimeton> i'm able to download the file
[11:35] <grimeton> btw
[11:35] <Zanaty_> hello , its my first time here , i have excellent skills in c/c++ and i am interested in ubuntu developing , any hints ?
[11:35] <usr13> gulzar: Did you "try with --fix-missing"?
[11:36] <grimeton> Zanaty_: work on your reading skills: www.ubuntu.com
[11:36] <gulzar> usr13: tried. no effect
[11:36] <gulzar> Zanaty_: awesome. do you have practice materal for C?
[11:36] <Zanaty_> grimeton: sry i cannot understand you
[11:36] <inti> hello guys, looking for someone how can tell me wich programm for 3D-diagramms is good an simple?
[11:37] <grimeton> Zanaty_: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/developers
[11:37] <Zanaty_> gulzar: iam  an ACM icpc contestant and almost iam doing every problem solving in c/c++
[11:38] <Zanaty_> grimeton: i've already read the begginers tutorial and setup enviroment , but i have no experience to start fixing bugs on my own
[11:39] <grimeton> Zanaty_: it's as always - learn what the software does - fix the bugs
[11:39] <gulzar> Zanaty_: good. I want practice examples for begineners. short applications. it will help me in unoderstanding C in more depth. Any link? Gogle drive, site?
[11:39] <usr13> gulzar: uname -a   #What does that say
[11:40] <gulzar> usr13: Linux Cryptic 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17 18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:40] <usr13> gulzar: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[11:40] <Voidvoid> grimeton, im updating apt-file ... sorry im at work
[11:40] <Zanaty_> gulzar: many problem solving online judges are present somthing like topcodr.com , spoj.pl
[11:41] <Voidvoid> if it doesnt work despite its a dependence problem should i try to do another thing ?
[11:41] <gulzar> usr13: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[11:41] <gulzar> Zanaty_:  Thank You
[11:42] <Zanaty_> gulzar: u r w :)
[11:42] <grimeton> Voidvoid: if the file is there and it isn't found - you can deal with the ld cache - but be careful - fucking that up can kill your system
[11:42] <Zanaty_> grimeton: i thought maybe working in a team may grant me experience , is there any teams here accepts begginers ?
[11:43] <grimeton> Zanaty_: http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/
[11:43] <gulzar> usr13: any idea?
[11:43] <usr13> gulzar: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <Voidvoid> should i execute ldconfig ?
[11:44] <grimeton> Voidvoid: after you modified /etc/ld.so.conf
[11:44] <grimeton> Voidvoid: but again: BE CAREFUL
[11:45] <Voidvoid> ok, but what i should put in there the path of svnlib ?
[11:45] <gulzar> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054881/
[11:46] <grimeton> Voidvoid: check if the file is there - everything else depends on that - and to get knowledge of ldconfig read the manual page BEFORE you change anything
[11:47] <Voidvoid> ok ...if i just execute ldconfig it will update the libraries i guess it wont do anything wrong with the system right '
[11:47] <Voidvoid> ?
[11:47] <grimeton> Voidvoid: if everything is configured correctly - yes
[11:48] <Zanaty_> grimeton: i've already read the tutorials and these pages , iam asking if any one here are working on teams
[11:48] <Voidvoid> good .. so for example if ld.so.conf theres the lib  libsvn_subr-1*i should do a simbolic link to it ?
[11:49] <gulzar> usr13: any hint?
[11:49] <usr13_> gulzar: Temporary outage, send url again.
[11:49] <gulzar> usr13_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054881/
[11:50] <grimeton> Voidvoid: what? go read the manual page - you're playing with the fire and you want to read about how to douse that
[11:50] <Voidvoid> okk :)
[11:52] <gulzar> usr13_: anything?
[11:53] <usr13_> gulzar: Show me the apt-get error pastebin URL again.
[11:53] <gulzar> usr13_: http://pastebin.com/dJUcg5zS
[11:53] <universal> how to logout using terminal ?
[11:54] <gulzar> usr13_: need to go... urgent. sorry.  I will login after few time. Please save the soggestion in a file. Thank uyou
[11:54] <Zanaty_> is there any one here working on teams in developing ubuntu ?
[11:55] <universal> how to logout using terminal ??
[11:55] <grimeton> universal: exit
[11:56] <universal> grimeton: not terminal but logout from current session
[11:56] <Voidvoid> grimeton, if i update the distro version it would be a good idea ?
[11:56] <grimeton> universal: what?
[11:56] <grimeton> Voidvoid: don't know
[11:56] <universal> grimeton: logout from current user
[11:56] <grimeton> universal: exit
[11:56] <universal> exit closes terminal but not logged in user
[11:57] <grimeton> universal: ah, you want to close the x session?
[11:57] <universal> grimeton: ^^
[11:57] <grimeton> universal: end the x-blocking process (usually the window manager)
[11:57] <universal> like ?
[11:57] <grimeton> universal: you know what? kill -9 $(ps auxw | grep X | awk '{print $2}')_
[11:58] <universal> window manager is compiz and session usually is gnome-session grimeton
[12:02] <universal> grimeton: ps aux | grep gnome gives - ubuntu   21273  0.0  0.1 427404 10624 ?        Ssl  09:45   0:00 gnome-session --session=ubuntu
[12:02] <universal> so should i just kill this process
[12:02] <ann-mariya> hi, how can I use desktop sharing in ubuntu
[12:04] <ann-mariya> fuck
[12:05] <gvo> ann-mariya: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/share-your-ubuntu-desktop-using-remote-desktop.html
[12:05] <universal> use Remmina...its for remote desktop sharing
[12:06] <karab44> hello
[12:06] <karab44> how do I change terminal resolution?
[12:06] <etfb> Having trouble with Nautilus.  Files with spaces in them no longer work, even when I use quotes around them.  They used to, pre-12.10 or so.  For example, echo x>"Foo Bar" ; nautilus "Foo Bar" used to work, and now reports that "Foo" and "Bar" don't exist.
[12:06] <karab44> in ubuntu 1204
[12:07] <Voidvoid> grimeton, apt-files says svnlib1 and svblib-dev i already have it installed but it doesnt work .. so im upgrading the distro :/
[12:07] <Voidvoid> i hope it works
[12:08] <karab44> Hello, Where I can find resolution matrix for text terminal and how do I change resolution in it?
[12:09] <cfhowlett> karab44, see the terminal settings/preferences
[12:09] <karab44> no no, I mean in tty
[12:10] <karab44> changing it in grub
[12:10] <cfhowlett> karab44, oh.  sorry.  I don't know about that one.
[12:10] <tasslehoff> Can the super+<number> shortcuts in unity be disabled?
[12:10] <karab44> cfhowlett: no problem, I didn't tell it explicitly
[12:11] <karab44> Any ideas? I did the trick on ubu 1204 server two weeks ago but now kill me but I don't remember
[12:13] <usr13_> If gulzar comes back, show him http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054937/
[12:13] <karab44> ok I found vesa framebuffer modes. It's getting better
[12:17] <mikubuntu> does anybody yet have luck using facebook video chat on ubuntu? the google results i found dated back to 2011, and said it wasn't supported
[12:19] <\\Mr_C\\> http://nextmicrosoftceo.com/
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !spam|\\Mr_C\\,
[12:19] <\\Mr_C\\> you think thats spam?
[12:20] <karab44> does ubuntu 1204 desktop uses grub or grub2?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> !topic\\Mr_C\\,
[12:20] <cfhowlett> karab44, grub2
[12:20] <cfhowlett> !topic|\\Mr_C\\,
[12:20] <\\Mr_C\\> its about linux
[12:20] <karab44> good, where to instert this vga=795 to have desired resolution in terminal?
[12:20] <\\Mr_C\\> linus is in the lead
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !ot|\\Mr_C\\, at best it's offtopic to ubuntu support
[12:25] <karab44> if only holstein was here, he would help me
[12:27] <Kartagis> hrm
[12:27] <etfb> Is there an alternative to Nautilus that understands how to open files with spaces in the name?
[12:27] <Kartagis> youtube videos play twice their speed on chrome
[12:27] <Kartagis> any ideas?
[12:27] <usr13_> karab44: At the end of the kernel line.
[12:28] <cfhowlett> Kartagis, make sure you're using the html5 version
[12:28] <karab44> usr13_:  pardon? I am completely diesel in that. What file, what line?
[12:28] <etfb> Kartagis: not for me, which suggests a config problem rather than a low-level bug. Reinstall?
[12:28] <geirha> etfb: What do you mean? nautilus have no trouble with whitespace in filenames
[12:28] <usr13_> !grub2 | karab44
[12:29] <Fiktyz> Suppppp?
[12:29] <etfb> geirha: I thought that, but as of 12.10 or so it has been, at the shell.  Try opening a file at the bash prompt, eg nautilus "My File".
[12:29] <Kartagis> cfhowlett: I thought I was. how do I check it tho?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Kartagis, last I saw YT ( in china now, so it's been awhile) there's  a html5 tab/setting on the page
[12:30] <burg> hello. i am trying to set default acl for one directory and all newly created files/directories from within, but some are always created with an effective mask (different from my acl). http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18538131/remove-acl-effective-mask - here is what i tried, but with no success
[12:32] <Kartagis> cfhowlett: thanks, it worked
[12:32] <geirha> etfb: Tried with 13.04. Worked fine. Perhaps you have an alias or function named nautilus? What does  ''type nautilus''  output?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Kartagis, have fun, be safe
[12:32] <mikubuntu> does anybody yet have luck using facebook video chat on ubuntu? the google results i found dated back to 2011, and said it wasn't supported
[12:33] <Yu-Yu> Now I can't join #ubuntu+1… Don't know why. Hi there all.
[12:33] <etfb> geirha: D'OH!  Yes, I made an alias because I sometimes used a Xubuntu box that used pcfileman.  Dagnabbit!
[12:34] <cfhowlett> Yu-Yu, worked for me.  they must not like you for some reason.
[12:34] <Yu-Yu> Does anyone know why there in Ubuntu oftenly pulse+bt loose a2dp or get output to headphones glitchy?
[12:35] <etfb> Ah yes. Thanks, geirha! That was the problem.
[12:35] <usr13_> !sound | Yu-Yu
[12:36] <Yu-Yu> usr13_: It's all about two headsets via bluetooth.
[12:37] <usr13_> Yu-Yu: Why can't you join #ubuntu+1 ?
[12:37] <etfb> There's still the problem that when program A opens program B, program A remains on top of the z-order, instead of giving focus to program B.  That's definitely new to Ubuntu 13.04 or so.
[12:37] <etfb> In this case, my text editor is opening Nautilus, and the Nautilus window is remaining behind it instead of popping up when it's opened.
[12:37] <geirha> etfb: I find it best not to use aliases (or functions) to change the behavior of commands; rather make a new name for it.
[12:38] <GoldenVirginia> How do I limit users bandwidth usage ?
[12:38] <usr13_> Yu-Yu: (I'm sorry but I do not know about bluetooth headsets.)
[12:38] <Yu-Yu> usr13_: Gonna investigate the guidelines you gave me, first.
[12:39] <etfb> geirha: Yes, this was a stupid decision. I was so used to using the nautilus command, and on Xubuntu I kept having to go and google to find out that pcfileman was the equivalent (I think!).  So I thought "I know, I'll make an alias!"  And my troubles began...
[12:39] <usr13_> GoldenVirginia: That is a job for your router, dd-wrt might be for you.
[12:40] <GoldenVirginia> usr13_: it can be used on servers too ?
[12:40] <MagePsycho> how to find the modifided date as well
[12:40] <MagePsycho> find . -mtime -3
[12:40] <MagePsycho> this only list the name of the modified fiels
[12:41] <Yu-Yu> GoldenVirginia: Why not?
[12:41] <karab44> I don't have grub menu while login, just ubuntu splash screen
[12:41] <karab44> I used to have it before...
[12:41] <karab44> What could happen?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> karab44, does it still login?
[12:42] <GoldenVirginia> Yu-Yu: also after they used their bandwidth usage, can I limit them to lower speeds ? lile from 100Mb/s to 10 Mb/s?
[12:42] <karab44> I didn't make any changes to config files. I did but I reverted them and made grub-update
[12:42] <usr13_> GoldenVirginia: No.  But are you using a Linux computer as a router?
[12:42] <karab44> cfhowlett: yes, everybody works but grub menu dissapered
[12:42] <karab44> So it boots directly to Ubuntu
[12:42] <GoldenVirginia> usr13_: No
[12:42] <karab44> I don't know why
[12:42] <cfhowlett> karab44, and you're the only user?  i.e. only a single user account?
[12:43] <usr13_> GoldenVirginia: Local users?
[12:43] <gvo> He's probably running grub 2 which by default doesn't display a menu
[12:44] <usr13_> GoldenVirginia: http://serverfault.com/questions/222559/traffic-shaping-for-certain-local-users
[12:44] <Yu-Yu> GoldenVirginia: You mean shaping on a router controlled from your server?
[12:44] <karab44> gvo: okay, but I had a menu this morning.
[12:44] <karab44> now it's gone
[12:44] <gvo> So what changed.
[12:44] <karab44> what the heck? :)
[12:44] <GoldenVirginia> usr13_: Yes , I have a ubuntu 12.04 LTS server. I have local non sudoer users on them ... how do I limit their bandwidth usage and lower their speeds after they have used their allocated TB's
[12:44] <GoldenVirginia> karab44: Yu-Yu: ^
[12:44] <cfhowlett> karab44, if you set it to auto login ...
[12:44] <usr13_> GoldenVirginia: Ok, see URL I sent.
[12:45] <GoldenVirginia> You didn't send me anything yet.
[12:45] <GoldenVirginia> usr13_: ^
[12:45] <usr13_> GoldenVirginia: http://serverfault.com/questions/222559/traffic-shaping-for-certain-local-users
[12:45] <cfhowlett> karab44, make sure your account has a login password.  Matter of fact, (and I know this is silly), you SHOULD have at least 2 accounts ... one administrator and one for daily, normal use.
[12:45] <gvo> karab44: Try holding the shift key down at boot.
[12:45] <GoldenVirginia> Alright thanks
[12:45] <karab44> cfhowlett: I tell you what I did
[12:46] <karab44> I tried to make my terminal in high resolution adding a vga=795 mode
[12:46] <Yu-Yu> cfhowlett: You must be misreading karab44.
[12:46] <karab44> but it did not work at all.
[12:46] <karab44> so I reverted this change every experiment and made grub-update
[12:46] <Yu-Yu> karab44 made grub-update.
[12:47]  * cfhowlett ... is now commenting less and reading more ...
[12:47] <usr13_> karab44: Are you talking about console mode's screen size?
[12:47] <karab44> yes, still but in effect I have my grub menu lost.
[12:47] <usr13_> karab44: Or GUI terminal?
[12:48] <gvo> karab44 look in /etc/default/grub for a GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0   Comment it out if it's there.
[12:48] <gvo> karab44: then run update-grub again.
[12:48] <karab44> usr13_: I told you before, that I try to change Console mode, not GUI
[12:49] <gvo> karab44: Or increase the timeout to something non zero.
[12:49] <karab44> gvo: yes it's there set to 0
[12:49] <gvo> set it to 5
[12:50] <karab44> GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[12:50] <karab44> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[12:50] <karab44> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[12:50] <karab44> GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
[12:50] <FloodBot1> karab44: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:50] <gvo> That line says how long to wait before booting while displaying the menu.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:51] <karab44> I'll experiment with these parameters.
[12:51] <gvo> karab44: Sorry, comment out the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[12:51] <gvo> karab44: Leave the GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
[12:52] <karab44> no problenm
[12:52] <karab44> so ok, it's done time to grub-update and reboot
[12:52] <karab44> see you in 30s
[12:52] <gvo> fast!
[12:53] <karab44> yes
[12:53] <karab44> I can see grub bootmenu now
[12:53] <karab44> againm
[12:54] <gvo> karab44: another one bits the dust!
[12:54] <karab44> I don't know why it dissapeard anyway :)
[12:54] <gvo> Did you possibly remove another OS?
[12:54] <karab44> nope
[12:54] <karab44> just ubuntu
[12:55] <karab44> fresh installation
[12:55] <karab44> quite fresh
[12:55] <gvo> OK can't help then.
[12:55] <karab44> gvo: What are you talkin about?! You did it! You've helped me! Menu works again. That's it :D
[12:57] <ma3> hi
[12:57] <karab44> maybe because I boot on ssd and it's damn fast? Or like Yu-Yu said it could be a matter of bios changes, where I remember I set fast boot but it wasn't today for sure.
[12:58] <karab44> ok nevermind, problem solved
[12:59] <karab44> but still can't figure out how to set higher resolution in text console.
[12:59] <karab44> I read grub docs that you sent me and nothing works
[13:05] <usr13_> Kartagis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18444/how-do-i-increase-console-mode-resolution
[13:06] <Kartagis> usr13_: are you sending this to the right guy?
[13:06] <usr13_> Kartagis: no
[13:07] <usr13_> karab44: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18444/how-do-i-increase-console-mode-resolution
[13:08] <KeyboardNotFound> if I'm in /opt/android-studio/bin and I execute command: ./android studio.sh, how to execute when I will be in /home ?
[13:08] <KeyboardNotFound> ./opt/android-studio/bin/android studio.sh ??? this don't work
[13:10] <geirha> KeyboardNotFound: Lose the .
[13:10] <KeyboardNotFound> geirha, where ?
[13:10] <geirha> KeyboardNotFound: at the start
[13:11] <KeyboardNotFound> /opt/android-studio/bin/android studio.sh
[13:11] <KeyboardNotFound> -bash: /opt/android-studio/bin/android: No such file or directory
[13:11] <KeyboardNotFound> when i'm in /opt/android-studio/bin/ and i start ./android studio.sh
[13:11] <KeyboardNotFound> all is ok
[13:11] <geirha> KeyboardNotFound: sure you didn't typo anything there?
[13:12] <KeyboardNotFound> i can't execute the file :/
[13:12] <geirha> KeyboardNotFound: If   cd /opt/android-studio/bin && ./android   works, then   /opt/android-studio/bin/android   should work too
[13:13] <KeyboardNotFound> geirha, but /opt/android-studio/bin/android dont work
[13:14] <geirha> KeyboardNotFound: are you sure you got the path right? keep in mind that it's case sensitivie. E.g. "Android" != "android"
[13:15] <Yu-Yu> KeyboardNotFound: In '/opt/android-studio/bin/android studio.sh' certainly there are some errors. Try your tab completion.
[13:15] <T699> Hello, last night I had to perform a hard shutdown after the computer froze while attempting to shut down normally. Now when I boot, I have no internet and wireless isn't detected. Any ideas?
[13:15] <KeyboardNotFound> geirha, yes the path is correct
[13:16] <geirha> KeyboardNotFound: so   ls -l /opt/android-studio/bin/android   doesn't give an error?
[13:16] <deanrock0> hi, i have a static ip configuration in /etc/network/interfaces, but ubuntu waits on boot for 60 seconds with the message "waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration". what could be wrong?
[13:16] <Yu-Yu> KeyboardNotFound: If you start ./android studio.sh in /opt/android-studio/bin then you should run /opt/android-studio/bin/android /opt/android-studio/bin/studio.sh
[13:18] <Yu-Yu> T699: Probably you can try recovery mode from grub boot menu and then select checking all filesystems?
[13:18] <Yu-Yu> And it's gone…
[13:19] <KeyboardNotFound> Yu-Yu, this works thank you very much :)
[13:19] <geirha> deanrock0: Sounds like it's still trying to get an ip from dhcp, so possibly a misconfiguration...?
[13:21] <Setha> KeyboardNotFound: No problem, you're welcome.
[13:21] <deanrock0> geirha: i have eth0 set on manual and then a bridge with staticly configured network settings
[13:22] <T699> Is there a command I can use to start wifi?
[13:22] <Setha> T699: iwup?
[13:22] <geirha> deanrock0: Yes, though that it's waiting 60 seconds suggests otherwise. Perhaps a typo somewhere.
[13:22] <Setha> T699: ifup?
[13:24] <deanrock0> geirha: http://pastebin.com/vWNeUCxG doesn't seem so
[13:24] <deanrock0> but even if it was trying to get ip from dhcp it should work, because dhcp server is available on the network
[13:24] <T699> Setha, just ran: ifup -a  nothing was output
[13:25] <tsongki> Hey guys need help. I receive error message during software update. My ubuntu version is raring ringworm 13.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6055144/
[13:25] <cfhowlett> tsongki, ringworm?  ewwwwwww
[13:26] <tsongki> lol
[13:26] <BluesKaj> T699, iwconfig
[13:26] <tsongki> i mean ringtail sorry
[13:26] <Setha> lol
[13:27] <tsongki> wish somebody could help.
[13:27] <BluesKaj> tsongki, what's the error message , if it's more then 3 lines , pastebin it
[13:28] <Ampelbein> tsongki: The deluge-team ppa has no packages released for raring
[13:28] <DJones> tsongki: Looks like there is ppa included in your sources list that isn't being found
[13:28] <Ampelbein> tsongki: So you have to remove that from your sources
[13:28] <tsongki> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[13:28] <tsongki> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:28] <tsongki> how?
[13:28] <Yu-Yu> tsongki: Check yourself at http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/
[13:29] <T699> Blueskaj, I get: eth0, lo, and wlan0
[13:29] <Yu-Yu> Is there raring?
[13:29] <Ampelbein> tsongki: software-properties -> other sources, remove that ppa.
[13:30] <tsongki> ok ill going to remove that ppa
[13:31] <BluesKaj> T699, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up , then , sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[13:32] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi #ubuntu, there is windows fonts with debian. Is there windiws fonts for ubuntu 12.04.2?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, yes they are in the restricted extras
[13:32] <cfhowlett> MonkWitDaFunk, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:33] <MonkWitDaFunk> Thanks
[13:34] <boopla7> Installed lubuntu alongside windos. Now i dont need windows anymore. How do i recover the disk space allocated to windows? Is there a way to do it without reinstalling lubuntu (using entire disk this time)?
[13:34] <ActionPa1snip> boopla7: did you resize NTFS, or did you use wubi?
[13:34] <Yu-Yu> MonkWitDaFunk: Moreover, you still can query apt database like that: `apt-cache search microsoft fonts | less´.
[13:35] <boopla7> i think resize
[13:35] <gvo> boopla7: You really need to know for sure
[13:35] <cfhowlett> boopla7, be sure.  wubi / not wubi is a major factor
[13:35] <boopla7> yes if i remember correctly during installation quite a bit of time went into resizing
[13:36] <ActionPa1snip> boopla7: you can resize your Ext4 into the NTFS space after deleting the partition
[13:36] <Kaapa> hey guys - my mic capture volume is very low. Any tips on how I can configure pulseaudio to increase the volume?
[13:36] <boopla7> how do i do it?
[13:36] <ActionPa1snip> Kaapa: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> boopla7: use Ubuntu liveCD, you can resize there. Be sure that your backups are up to date
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Kaapa, open alsamixer in the terminal and increase the vol there
[13:37] <gvo> boopla7: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToRemoveWindows
[13:37] <Yu-Yu> boopla7: You can identify what's there on your capacitors online using `lsblk´ tool.
[13:37] <Kaapa> ActionPa1snip: doing that!
[13:38] <tsongki> thanks i guess removing deluge ppa works
[13:38] <tsongki> thanks guyz
[13:38]  * Yu-Yu gz tsongki.
[13:38] <boopla7> thanks you
[13:38] <Kaapa> ActionPa1snip: done - is there an url this thing generates that I can share?
[13:39] <Kaapa> Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7592009683637377cf2e1986b00d6787a0f59315 <- there
[13:39] <Yu-Yu> Kaapa: Use pastebin?
[13:39] <ChevChelios> ciao
[13:39] <Yu-Yu> Oh…
[13:39] <Kaapa> it's the usb camera mic volume I'm trying to increase
[13:43] <Oliver___> Hi all
[13:44] <Yu-Yu> All greetz Oliver___…
[13:46] <CK> testing
[13:47] <cfhowlett> !testing|ck
[13:47] <cfhowlett> !test
[13:47] <Yu-Yu> lol
[13:48] <CK> lol
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Kaapa, does, sudo gstreamer-properties , show anything ?
[13:49] <Kaapa> BluesKaj: hum... not sure what I'd be looking for there
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Kaapa, a gui should popup with some options
[13:51] <BluesKaj> it's a gui to control usb audio devices. Kaapa
[13:51] <Kaapa> default input: custom
[13:52] <dean_za> hi , i have been force to roll out a new server after a hard drive crash , went from ubuntu 8.04 ltsp to 12.04 ltsp , i have restored most apps for users but I am having serious problem with printing. I have correct entries in lts.conf and port 9100 is open on thin client and appears to be accepting connections. Nothing prints though and I cant find any error log anywhere. Can anyone tell me where I can look for solution / evidence of problem ?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Kaapa, ok run lsusb , try to se if you can recognize the camera
[13:52] <cfhowlett> dean_za, http://localhost:631/
[13:53] <cfhowlett> dean_za, look under the printers tab
[13:54] <ker2x> friendly greetings \o/
[13:56] <ker2x> i finally updated my desktop from 10.0.4 LTS to 12.0.4 LTS, i had some troubles but now it's ok. however, my fingerprint isn't working anymore fingerprint-helper: error while loading shared libraries: libMagickCore.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:56] <ker2x> i tried to remove/install it. but
[13:56] <ker2x> sudo aptitude install fingerprint-gui
[13:56] <ker2x> No candidate version found for fingerprint-gui
[13:56] <ker2x> :(
[13:57] <FloodBot1> ker2x: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <TNTS> Hi, I got me some trouble with installing Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit on my system, Grub isn't showing and Ubuntu isn't in the Windows 7 boot manager. I used a USB Flash Drive as an install medium
[13:58] <martinrame> Hi, I can connect to a windows VPN from Ubuntu 12.04, but can't browse the internet while connected, what can I do to be able to browse?.
[13:58] <cfhowlett> TNTS, was this a dual boot or windows/wubi installation?
[13:58] <universal> how to measure or see the signal strength of wifi ?? gui or in terrminal - both ??
[13:58] <TNTS> cfhowlett: Its a "Install alongside Windows 7" so I would consider it as a dual-boot
[13:59] <geirha> ker2x: Sounds like you need to re-add the ppa
[13:59] <Oliver___> Ok.  I just downloaded a theme.  How do I apply it?
[13:59] <ker2x> geirha: that's what i'm doing, indeed :)
[14:00] <ker2x> https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/fingerprint-gui
[14:00] <Oliver___> daftykins: I got it working
[14:00] <Shakaz> can someone please seed the ubtunu 13.04 desktop 64bit torrent pls
[14:01] <iceroot_> !torrent | Shakaz
[14:01] <geirha> ker2x: Yes, all PPAs get disabled when you upgrade to a new release. You have to manually re-enable/add them
[14:01] <iceroot_> !torrents | Shakaz
[14:01] <ker2x> geirha: ok thank you :)
[14:01] <Shakaz> iceroot_ can you seed
[14:01] <iceroot_> Shakaz: why?
[14:02] <universal> how to measure or see the signal strength of wifi ?? gui or in terrminal - both ??
[14:02] <universal> which torrent client gives the best speed ?
[14:03] <philinux> universal:  iwconfig wlan0 | grep -i --color signal
[14:04] <Shakaz> iceroot_ so i can download quicker
[14:04] <philinux> universal:  iwconfig wlan0 | grep -i --color signal
[14:04] <TNTS> Where should I reinstall the Grub? Should it be in the ext4 or the swap partition?
[14:05] <philinux> universal: for more info just do iwconfig wlan0
[14:05] <universal> philinux: wlan0 no such device
[14:05] <iceroot_> Shakaz: then use the http download
[14:05] <BluesKaj> TNTS, ext4  if it's the only OS on the drive
[14:05] <iceroot_> Shakaz: and the torrent has enough seeders to reach 100MBit/s
[14:05] <ker2x> mmmmmmmmm same problem : fingerprint-gui: error while loading shared libraries: libMagickCore.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:05] <philinux> universal: look with ifconfig
[14:06] <universal> philinux: wlan0: error fetching device information: Device not found
[14:07] <universal> philinux: did- ifconfig wlan0 | grep -i --color signal
[14:07] <Yu-Yu> iwconfig 2>>/dev/null | grep -i --color signal
[14:07] <TNTS> BluesKaj: What if its not? I got one that's labeled ubuntu and one ext4
[14:08] <philinux> universal: no, just type in ifconfig to see the interfaces
[14:08] <universal> o.O
[14:08] <geirha> ker2x: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude reinstall fingerprint-gui  # maybe
[14:08] <universal> philinux: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ iwconfig eth0      no wireless extensions.  eth5      IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:"GAURVNS"             Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 00:08:5C:9C:AE:DA              Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off           Power Management:on            lo        no wireless extensions.
[14:08] <philinux> universal: what does ifconfig show
[14:09] <ker2x> geirha: trying
[14:09] <philinux> universal: what does ifconfig show
[14:09] <universal> Yu-Yu: your msg was for me ?
[14:09] <Yu-Yu> TNTS: Do you want to install GrUB2 onto a swap partition??
[14:09] <Yu-Yu> universal: Sure. And not only.
[14:10] <mdik____> hi.
[14:10] <TNTS> Yu-Yu: Its a problem with the boot menu. I think Grub got corrupted or didn't go in right (PS: I am dual-booting here with Win 7 x64)
[14:10] <Yu-Yu> universal, philinux: Rather, `iwconfig 2>>/dev/null | grep -i --color signal´
[14:10] <tester_> hi :)
[14:10] <mdik____> how do i do "passwd" with an encrypted home dir without losing it?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> TNTS, run sudo fdisk -l , to find the device names , like /dev/sda
[14:10] <tester_> whats up everyone
[14:11] <TNTS> BluesKaj: And then I look for the one labeled?
[14:11] <ActionPa1snip> mdik____: the home is a separate entity to the password system
[14:11] <ActionPa1snip> mdik____: use root recovery console to set your password for your user
[14:12] <universal> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=2a417ff Yu-Yu philinux
[14:12] <Yu-Yu> TNTS: One can decide on their own, while it's always a good decision to put your bootloader onto either your primary system partition or your hdd containing the system partition.
[14:12] <mdik____> ActionPa1snip: i recovered already, but how do i change both, so it works as if installed freshly?
[14:13] <universal> Yu-Yu: did- iwconfig 2>>/dev/null | grep -i --color signal but nothing happening
[14:13] <Yu-Yu> universal: W.h.y.?
[14:13] <ActionPa1snip> mdik____: how do you mean?
[14:13] <mdik____> i'm doing support for a not-so-computer-savvy friend and can't find good documentation on the whole "encrypted home dir" thing in ubuntu
[14:13] <universal> Yu-Yu: if I knew that then i would had not asked that question
[14:13] <philinux> universal: looks like you on wired not wireless
[14:14] <jrib> mdik____: you've written down your passphrase in a safe place, yes?
[14:14] <Yu-Yu> universal: Then iwconfig can't see your wireless interface. But likely you lie.
[14:14] <universal> philinux: I'm on wireless....
[14:14] <mdik____> ActionPa1snip: say you install ubuntu and click the option "encrypt home dir". then you unlock your home dir when logging in. simultaneously.
[14:14] <TNTS> Yu-Yu: I'm sorry I don't speak HDD or Boot managers and such but according to the Windows 7 Disk Manager, the 2 partitions that Ubuntu made are "primary" so does that mean either way is good?
[14:14] <karab44> is grub2 changing terminal resolution buggy in 1204??
[14:14] <mdik____> ActionPa1snip: but when you change your password with passwd, the encrypted home-dir does not follow
[14:14] <universal> philinux: Yu-Yu if you can connect to remote desktop connection then i can show you my desktop
[14:14] <mdik____> or my friend did something wrong
[14:15] <ker2x> geirha: nope, no luck. look like the package is broken. there is no libMagickCore.so.2 in 12.0.4 anymore
[14:15] <ActionPa1snip> mdik____: not sure there mate, I avoid encrypted file systems. Far too many headaches
[14:15] <karab44> Why every linux aspect has to have a bug in it? Where ever I turn there's a bug. Why I can not do a simple thing without hacking?
[14:15] <Yu-Yu> TNTS: Hey. I told you: either onto your HDD or onto your system partition. Anyways, the choice is yours.
[14:15] <mdik____> you never got your laptop stolen then i guess :)
[14:15] <karab44> eeh
[14:15] <ActionPa1snip> mdik____: no because I'm not a dumbass
[14:15]  * Yu-Yu knows nothing on Windows 7 whatever-manager.
[14:16] <NetCatty> hi
[14:16] <philinux> universal: just click on the networking icon then connection info and screenshot it
[14:16] <universal> ActionPa1snip: why not encrypted systems ? its a lot more of privacy....only problem is recovery on accidental deletion or crash
[14:16] <ker2x> i run on encrypted fs since years without problem
[14:16] <jrib> mdik____: did you see my question?
[14:16] <ker2x> with dmcrypt
[14:16] <ActionPa1snip> universal: never had an issue and not used it. never lost a single piece of hardware, laptop or ANYTHING
[14:17] <ActionPa1snip> universal: causes lots of headaches and stuff. keep the system simple and you win
[14:17] <philinux> universal: just click on the networking icon then connection info and screenshot it
[14:17] <jrib> ActionPa1snip: you should think of it like insurance though.  It's not something you want to ever have to use, but you appreciate it in case you do
[14:17] <universal> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=c3d33ad philinux Yu-Yu
[14:17] <ActionPa1snip> universal: if you need encrptfs to protect you from your own stupidity you need to re-examine yourself
[14:18] <jrib> ActionPa1snip: you can get mugged for example; that's not due to your stupidity.  But I fear we're no longer discussing support
[14:18] <philinux> universal: wconfig eth5 | grep -i --color quality
[14:18] <Yu-Yu> Lol. universal: This time I can see you're having it like eth5. Not like wlanX.
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> jrib: again not had that issue, but yes it is OT
[14:18] <philinux> universal: iwconfig eth5 | grep -i --color quality
[14:18] <Yu-Yu> philinux: Lol, tell it once more?
[14:18] <universal> ActionPa1snip: actually i appreciate encryted fs for privacy from others snooping....nothing on my part
[14:18] <davvo> hola
[14:19] <davvo> alguien habla español?
[14:19] <dean_za> cups just says that document printed , however nothings comes out , no errors on cups logs on server
[14:19] <DJones> !es | davvo
[14:19] <ActionPa1snip> universal: security groups and so forth keep snoopers out
[14:19] <davvo> gracias
[14:19] <NetCatty> I have a problem with aqemu. Evertime I try to start it it only prints: Sender: bool Emulator::Load( const QString &path ) / Message: Loading emulator file version 0.8 / Segmentation fault (core dumped) Can someone tell me what's wrong?  Linux Farnsworth 3.8.0-29-generic ubuntu 13.04, 64bit, gnome-shell
[14:20] <ActionPa1snip> universal: each user cannot see the other user's home folder
[14:20] <universal> philinux: Yu-Yu now god knows why it is eth5 and not wlan0....or your specialist examination on this also ?? lol
[14:20] <philinux> universal: did u get the signal stuff now
[14:20] <universal> ActionPa1snip: but if you take out hdd and connect it on other system then you have everything
[14:20] <geirha> ker2x: How did you re-add the ppa exactly?
[14:20] <Yu-Yu> universal: I can see the tab you're not checking.
[14:21] <jrib> mdik____: you aren't replying so I'll just make some remarks as I have to go: the encryption passphrase is wrapped (encrypted) by the user's login password.  Presumably the gui, takes care to "rewrap" the passphrase in the event of a password change.  But passwd may not (don't know).  So your options are 1) use old password 2) use gui (assuming gui takes care to rewrap) 3) rewrap your passphrase yourself
[14:21] <ziadingo> hi, how show file permisions (CHMOD) numeric style eg. 0777 0666, in my file browser?
[14:22] <universal> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=776b8ab Yu-Yu philinux
[14:22] <Yu-Yu> ziadingo: What file browser?
[14:22] <ziadingo> ubuntu files
[14:22] <universal> Yu-Yu: yea....srry lol
[14:22] <ziadingo> Yu-Yu ubuntu files
[14:22] <NetCatty> ziadingo: u mean nautilus
[14:22] <jrib> mdik____:  some random comments found through google suggest that PAM should handle the re-wrapping so as long as the old password is provided, the passphrase should be being rewrapped
[14:23] <ker2x> geirha: i followed this https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/fingerprint-gui
[14:23] <juniour> hi ubuntu Geeks
[14:23] <juniour> i have a dought??
[14:23] <ziadingo> NetCatty: yeh, how to do?
[14:23] <juniour> how to make iso image of the running ubuntu
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> ziadingo  top left, Files > preferences > list columns
[14:23] <juniour> ???
[14:23] <ActionPa1snip> juniour: use dd
[14:23] <NetCatty> ziadingo: look up the config. there u can choose what information it list's u
[14:24] <universal> Yu-Yu: philinux http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=776b8ab ???
[14:24] <Yu-Yu> universal: Try `wavemon´ utility.
[14:24] <universal> what about the commands ??
[14:24] <OerHeks> ziadingo, open terminal:  stat -c '%A %a %n' *
[14:25] <Chat2078> Cunts
[14:25] <philinux> universal: i've no idea why your wireless is eth5
[14:25] <universal> !wavemon
[14:25] <juniour> ActionPa1snip like i have i have my ubuntu customized, my friends want to copy mine, but fresh installation and again customization take time so, i want to create copy of my running settings,, help me??
[14:25] <mdik____> jrib: yes. thank you. i think my friend did it that way, but i will ask back.
[14:26] <ziadingo> OerHeks: bur how to set this?
[14:26] <juniour> ActionPa1snip how to use dd??
[14:26] <ziadingo> *but
[14:26] <philinux> universal: sudo apt-get install wavemon or use SC or synaptic
[14:26] <philinux> universal: and a bit of internet search
[14:26] <ActionPa1snip> juniour: read:  man dd
[14:26] <universal> philinux: ok....but why are commands not working ?? Yu-Yu and what is SC for ?
[14:26] <juniour> ActionPa1snip k
[14:26] <philinux> universal: Software Centre
[14:27] <universal> oo
[14:27] <universal> kk
[14:27] <ActionPa1snip> juniour: thats why we have backup, you can restore user data and settings for apps (including Gnome etc) by restoring from backup
[14:27] <ActionPa1snip> juniour: you basically want the hidden folders in your users home folder
[14:27] <Yu-Yu> universal: Probably because of driver.
[14:27] <universal> ActionPa1snip: does backup works on a full drive or os with encryption ?
[14:27] <universal> Yu-Yu: driver is default wl
[14:28] <geirha> ker2x: apt-cache policy fingerprint-gui   # does it list several versions?
[14:28] <ActionPa1snip> universal: not sure, I don't use encryption......
[14:28] <Yu-Yu> ziadingo: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=86096d7 — with nautilus.
[14:29] <ker2x> geirha: no
[14:29] <geirha> ker2x: Ok, so only 1.05-dfsg2-0ppa1~precise1 ?
[14:29] <universal> Yu-Yu: whats your os ??
[14:29] <ker2x> geirha: yes
[14:29] <Yu-Yu> universal: WIndows 9 beta.
[14:30] <universal> Yu-Yu: what ?? kidding
[14:30] <martinrame> Hi, I can connect to a windows VPN from Ubuntu 12.04, but can't browse the internet while connected, what can I do to be able to browse?.
[14:31] <geirha> ker2x: Hm. Ok. There is libMagickCore in precice, but it's at version 4, not 2, so it's odd that it would depend on an "ancient" version.
[14:31] <ActionPa1snip> martinrame: add a route for web to your router, or add an excpetion to the VPN config on the server
[14:31] <philinux> universal: have you manually changed anything with network settings or udev
[14:31] <Yu-Yu> universal: Aren't you?
[14:31] <ker2x> geirha: yes, it is
[14:31] <martinrame> ActionPa1snip: I cannot access to the router nor the VPN server.
[14:31] <ker2x> and yes, there is v2 on 10.0.4 and only v4 on 12.0.4
[14:32] <bunjee> Dear people........does Ubuntu have a hard drive recovery tool?
[14:32] <ker2x> perhaps i could try to compile it manually
[14:32] <ker2x> but... meh
[14:32] <martinrame> ActionPa1snip: everything is client side.
[14:32] <ActionPa1snip> martinrame: then you will need to check your routing
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  testdisk, photorec
[14:32] <bunjee> new to Linux - please xplain
[14:32] <philinux> bunjee: yep testdisk and photorec
[14:33] <martinrame> ActionPa1snip: I know, but I don't know what I should check/unckeck in the routing dialog.
[14:33] <ker2x> geirha: i'll try to compile it from source
[14:33] <ker2x> bbl
[14:33] <Yu-Yu> ziadingo: Well, I can't tell yet.
[14:33] <ActionPa1snip> martinrame: make sure there is a route going to the router's internal IP
[14:34] <ziadingo> Yu-Yu: I want to do this http://pzdc.tk/chmod.png
[14:35] <Yu-Yu> ziadingo: Yah, I yet got that. Thinking yet.
[14:35] <Yu-Yu> ziadingo: But also tell me why, ever?
[14:35] <ActionPa1snip> mathfreak: if you run:  route      you should see the currently set routes
[14:35] <ActionPa1snip> martinrame: ^
[14:35] <ActionPa1snip> mathfreak: tab fail, sorry
[14:36] <ziadingo> Yu-Yu: i like numeric style
[14:36] <ker2x> compiling
[14:36] <bunjee> MonkeyDust/philinux - where is testdiak/Photorec
[14:36] <ActionPa1snip> martinrame: you may find that the subnet of your home network is the same as the network you are VPNing to
[14:37] <Yu-Yu> ziadingo: You do like it numeric and you do like it in Nautilus, both?
[14:37] <martinrame> ActionPa1snip: ok, I'll try.
[14:38] <Yu-Yu> ziadingo: I started Nautilus just to see if I can help you. Last time I started it was an accident, and I had to kill it by Process ID, twice.
[14:38] <ziadingo> Yu-Yu: yes
[14:39] <Yu-Yu> ziadingo: Eh. Okay. I can try to make a workaround.
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  install testdisk/photorec from the software center
[14:41] <Yu-Yu> MonkeyDust: Why? Why did you tell that?
[14:42] <Yu-Yu> MonkeyDust: Let people live their lives and use computers. Not maintain, if they ain't wanna know a thing.
[14:42] <auronandace> Yu-Yu: people come here for help, let people help others
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  read this first, to get familiar with disk/data recovery
[14:43] <universal> philinux: no I have not changed anything
[14:44] <eos__> hi everybody! I have a ricoh sdhc card reader, but I do not seem to be able to read the sdhc cards .... the kernel module seems to be loaded properly. Any clue?
[14:46] <ker2x> geirha: when compiling /usr/bin/ld: warning: libMagickCore.so.2, needed by /usr/local/lib/libfprint.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
[14:46] <ActionPa1snip> !info libMagickCore.so.2
[14:46] <ActionPa1snip> !find libMagickCore.so.2
[14:47] <ActionPa1snip> !find libMagickCore.so
[14:47] <ker2x> :D
[14:47] <ker2x> 5 ^^
[14:47] <ActionPa1snip> ker2x: install that, you may need a symlink
[14:47] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys i would like to install the intel linux graphics installer but am on precise; is there a deb out there?
[14:47] <ker2x> i have the v4 installed.
[14:47] <Asad3ainJalout> Hey guys I have a weird issue. I tried to install teamviewer through the .deb package and since than whenever I try to update it gives me this error. E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:47] <Asad3ainJalout> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[14:48] <toughlama> you can install nvidia
[14:48] <Asad3ainJalout> I have tried sudo apt-get update and it gives the same error as well
[14:48] <ker2x> mmmmmmmmmmmm
[14:48] <eos__> sorry! I have a ricoh card reader, but I do not seem to be able to read the sdhc cards .... the kernel module seems to be loaded properly. Any clue?
[14:49] <ker2x> so /usr/bin/ld: warning: libMagickCore.so.2, needed by /usr/local/lib/libfprint.so it's not fingerprint-gui that need this lib, but libfprint ?
[14:49] <toughlama> who can make kernel
[14:50] <universal> Asad3ainJalout: ps aux | grep apt
[14:50] <eos__> it is a pci card reader and the output of the lspci is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6055425/
[14:50] <universal> Asad3ainJalout: paste output screenshot
[14:51] <universal> toughlama: what are you doing ?
[14:51] <eos__> I do not seem to find a solution using google
[14:52] <Benty> do alt+F4 for a new smiley
[14:52] <Asad3ainJalout> universal: imgur acceptable?
[14:52] <jhutchins> Asad3ainJalout: You are using sudo, right?
[14:52] <universal> eos__: its integrated or external ?
[14:53] <Asad3ainJalout> jhutchins yes
[14:53] <universal> Asad3ainJalout: ok
[14:53] <Asad3ainJalout> jhutchins: yes
[14:53] <eos__> universal: integrated, it is on the pci
[14:53] <solars> does anyone know about problems with a  k5005 lte stick under ubuntu 13.04? as soon as I insert the stick, it crashes
[14:54] <ker2x> geirha: problem solved.
[14:54] <ker2x> it was a problem with libfprint, not fingerprint-gui
[14:54] <universal> eos__: simplest is to unload and reload the module
[14:55] <universal> rmmod driver* and modprobe driver* with sudo
[14:56] <universal> eos__: also check if your sdhc card is working or not. many times the card stops working
[14:56] <stomanata> Hi, i make wrong klick (trying to close windows) and now my clock and icons are next to my K menu. Hot to fix this?
[14:56] <eos__> universal: the card is working correctly .... shuld I also remove the sdhc and sdhc_pci?
[14:57] <eos__> universal: I mean the sdhc and sdhc_pci kernel modules ....
[14:59] <Asad3ainJalout> universal: http://i.imgur.com/14INK4g.png
[15:07] <Maple__> Hai, this is a question not 100% releated to Xubuntu but an issue I haven't had on any of the other dozen or so other distros I've previously used. I'm trying to get Java Swing applications/online Java applets to use the GTK+ look and feel; I've tried editing ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc as well as /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/swing.properties without success. This is what I've tried so far (wi
[15:07] <Maple__> thout success) - http://pastie.org/8291574
[15:07] <Angel> hey ... anyone here know how I can get X11 over mobaxterm working for 12.04?
[15:07] <Maple__> Assistance would be greatly appreciated, please. :<
[15:09] <fly-away> looks like mirrors.ubuntu.com down
[15:09] <Asad3ainJalout> universal: Also i am running kubuntu
[15:11] <coccinelle> salut
[15:13] <ActionPa1snip> Maple__: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:16] <mman> help with jail user for sftp! I followed many sites like this: http://codeinthehole.com/writing/how-to-chroot-a-user-in-ubuntu-1204/ but I still not be able to upload anything
[15:17] <eos__> ok .... new kernel, let's see whether it works this time .....
[15:26] <gvo> mman anything in the /var/log/secure that might be helpful?
[15:27] <gvo> Sorry that would be  /var/log/auth.log
[15:28] <Squarism> hey, how do i just print the matched pattern of a '/pattern/ {...}' awk program?
[15:28] <gvo> wrong OS :)
[15:28] <mman> gvo: Sep  2 17:23:52 rv1359 sshd[8476]: Accepted password for test from port 48339 ssh2
[15:28] <mman> Sep  2 17:23:52 rv1359 sshd[8476]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user test by (uid=0)
[15:28] <mman> Sep  2 17:23:52 rv1359 sshd[8616]: subsystem request for sftp by user test
[15:28] <mman> Sep  2 17:24:10 rv1359 sshd[7826]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user test
[15:28] <ThePieMan> anybody can suggest me a good text-to-speech software with gui?
[15:28] <gvo> mman: OK not useful.  Just a though.
[15:29] <c4ifford> Howdy, having issues finding a definite answer to an issue i'm having with a wireless connection. I'm using the stable version 12.04 and I'm trying to connect to an Access point running WPA-PSK encryption
[15:29] <universal> what does -a do in sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[15:29] <Yu-Yu> All?
[15:29] <Yu-Yu> universal: Means --all?
[15:29] <universal> Yu-Yu: me ?
[15:29] <mman> gvo, i know.. i saw that already and before I had the problem that the above folders had to be owned by root
[15:29] <universal> hmm ok
[15:29] <gvo> mman so what error message do you get?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> !who | Yu-Yu
[15:30] <mman> gvo but i solved the problem of that...
[15:30] <universal> !flashplugin-mozilla
[15:30] <jiffe99> this is really starting to get old, ubuntu rarely seems to boot on these supermicro machines now
[15:30] <Yu-Yu> universal:        -a, --all — to reconfigure all debconf-using packages. Taken from `man dpkg-reconfigure´ page.
[15:31] <Yu-Yu> BluesKaj: Ping on ya'.
[15:31] <universal> how to get info about flashplugin-mozilla and flashplugin-downloader ? yu
[15:31] <universal> Yu-Yu: ^^
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Yu-Yu, good luck
[15:31] <Yu-Yu> Ask `apt-cache show «package_name» | less´ or what?
[15:32] <universal> Yu-Yu: but that package is not present in cache ? will it show ?
[15:33] <Yu-Yu> universal: Then other way. Try fetching that package you don't have info on.
[15:33] <Woet> I leave my gateway address empty during installation and it says "the gateway address you entered is unreachable"
[15:33] <universal> meaning ? Yu-Yu u mean installing ?
[15:34] <Yu-Yu> universal: I mean any getting you can perform. Your choice on your path you tell us nothing about.
[15:35] <mman> gvo: i tried again and it worked now... strange.. one more question.. if i want to change the path where the sftp user will land after loggin I just have to change the ChrootedPath in sshd_config or?
[15:35] <c4ifford> So anyone have any clues regarding this issue with network manager and wifi devices connecting to WPA2-PSK device besides downgrading from WPA2?
[15:35] <universal> Yu-Yu: packages flashplugin-mozilla and flashplugin-ownloader are not installed.....I want to have info about it....like it showed for apt-cache show flashplugin-installer
[15:35] <gvo> mman: Don't know.  Check the docs or that web site you referenced.
[15:36] <Yu-Yu> c4ifford: What issue?
[15:36] <Yu-Yu> universal: If they exist on packages repository, apt knows on them. If not, what question do you have now?
[15:37] <universal> and Yu-Yu can it done sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a instead of sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[15:37] <c4ifford> yu-yu: there seems to be a bad password issue, when attempting to connect to a device running WPA2-PSK or any mixmode encryption beyond version 10.0 in ubuntu
[15:37] <c4ifford> yu-yu: this is similar to what i'm having an issue with http://pc-freak.net/blog/how-to-fix-wicd-1-7-0ds1-5-connection-failed-bad-password-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-merkaaat/
[15:38] <Yu-Yu> c4ifford: Can be it reproduced on 13.xx?
[15:38] <universal> Yu-Yu: for apt-cache show flashplugin-mozilla it says unable to locate package
[15:39] <c4ifford> yu-yu i'm using 12.04 currently
[15:39] <Yu-Yu> universal: $ ( LANG=C apt-cache search flashplugin )
[15:39] <Yu-Yu> flashplugin-installer - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[15:39] <Yu-Yu> flashplugin-downloader - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package)
[15:39] <Yu-Yu> flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound - Adobe Flash Player platform support library for Esound and OSS
[15:39] <Yu-Yu> Hell… Beg your pardon.
[15:39] <Yu-Yu> No Mozilla version.
[15:40] <universal> hmm
[15:40] <universal> what about flashplugin-downloader package ?
[15:40] <Yu-Yu> universal: Ask `apt-cache show «package_name» | less´ or what?
[15:41] <Yu-Yu> universal: I told you, I refuse helping with Adobe software, especially Flash Player.
[15:41] <universal> ok
[15:42] <ChogyDan> universal: chrome has the latest flash, fwiw
[15:42] <universal> what about [21:07] <universal> and Yu-Yu can it done sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a instead of sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[15:42] <universal> ChogyDan: fwiw ?
[15:42] <xtre_> i have installed cinnamon, now how can i modify cinnamon panel from .config file ?
[15:42] <xtre_> where are those file located ?
[15:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> xtre_: check ~/.config/cinnamon
[15:43] <ChogyDan> universal: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/for_what_it%27s_worth#English
[15:43] <Yu-Yu> ziadingo: Some workaround: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=d11f416
[15:43] <gvo> xtre_: Alternatively install Mate.  I found Mate to work better on some hardware.
[15:44] <universal> also if I download and install desktop environments than is there any performance enhancement or degradation ? and performance difference between xubuntu, kubuntu and xfce, kde on ubuntu ?
[15:44] <gvo> xtre_: Lightdm has been flakey for me.
[15:44] <universal> Yu-Yu: ^^
[15:44] <Yu-Yu> gvo, xtre_: Switched to Mate in mate-settings-daemon. Works ok.
[15:44] <Yu-Yu> universal: What?
[15:45] <xtre_> ntzrmtthihu777, i don't have that cinnamon folder in .config
[15:45] <universal> Yu-Yu: ?
[15:45] <gvo> universal: only if you have limited memory.
[15:45] <xtre_> gvo, Yu-Yu ok :)
[15:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> xtre_: dunno then. that's just a guess on my part
[15:45] <universal> gvo: i have 6gb ddr3
[15:45] <universal> 13xx mhz
[15:45] <gvo> universal: then I would not think you would see much difference in performance.
[15:45] <Yu-Yu> universal: Well,        --configure package...|-a|--pending is «Configure a package which has been unpacked but not yet configured.  If -a or --pending is given instead of  package,  all  unpacked but unconfigured packages are configured.»
[15:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> CPU~Dual core Intel Core2 Duo CPU U9600 (-MCP-) clocked at 1596.006 Mhz Kernel~3.7-trunk-amd64 x86_64 Up~15 min Mem~277.5/4928.4MB HDD~160.0GB(-) Procs~133 Client~Irssi 0.8.15 inxi~1.8.4
[15:46] <Sakrecoer> Hi all!
[15:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo
[15:47] <universal> gvo: but which is better xfce or kde on ubuntu or full xubuntu pr kubuntu ?
[15:47] <Sakrecoer> I was hopeing someone could give me a little light on this issue i have.
[15:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | Sakrecoer
[15:47] <Sakrecoer> on point 3 at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#Set_up_the_servers
[15:47] <Yu-Yu> All greets Sakrecoer.
[15:47] <Sakrecoer> it syas: "Start bootp: Here is a wrapper to start and stop bootpd from the command line." How do i use a wrapper?
[15:48] <gvo> universal: Better?  It's subjective and not something all would agree on.
[15:48] <universal> gvo: still....whats your view ?
[15:48] <gvo> universal: I'd never say any were better, except Unity is worse.
[15:48] <MrMonkey31> ooh, does switching out unity give you a new file manager?
[15:48] <Sakrecoer> Thanks ubottu! :) and sorry y'all... i will keep it in mind for next time...
[15:48] <gvo> universal: I'm a minimalist.  So xfce works fine for me.
[15:48] <ChogyDan> universal: I think that attempts are made to make them similar, but it is usually better to just install the flavor
[15:48] <Yu-Yu> gvo: Where worse?
[15:48] <universal> gvo: but unity is default...and most use that only
[15:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> universal: the only difference is that installing xubuntu/kubuntu will drag in all the default xubuntu/kubuntu apps, installing xfce/kde just gives you the desktop
[15:49] <gvo> universal: and many hate it.
[15:49] <xtre_> i am also hating unity a lot now :(
[15:49]  * ntzrmtthihu777 hates it
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> unity is controversial, but that's not discussed here
[15:49] <gvo> Unity is why I now run Mint
[15:50] <universal> ntzrmtthihu777: but what about performance difference ? xfce vs xubuntu ?
[15:50] <gvo> Sorry MonkeyDust
[15:50] <Yu-Yu> xtre_: Have you seen Awesome?
[15:50] <raven_> system does not send status mails any more: 12.04lts, ssmtp - manually via sendmail or ssmtp mails go out - any ideas?
[15:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> universal: same, except you may have some default apps running in xubuntu.
[15:50] <universal> hmm
[15:50] <xtre_> Yu-Yu, using dwm right now.
[15:50] <xtre_> Awesome is also good
[15:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> xtre_: damned windows machine?
[15:51] <MrMonkey31> I'm a newbie trying to install the opera browser under 13.04, and I've never "authenticated" anything else that I would install, but am assuming this time around there is a good reason for it.  has anyone had trouble authenticating opera?  I'm getting the (standard?) 'a package can't be authenticated' msg
[15:51] <universal> what about system load ? meaning xfce=xubuntu plus default ubuntu apps/processes running in background ?
[15:51] <universal> ntzrmtthihu777: ^^^
[15:51] <xtre_> ntzrmtthihu777, he he he :D :P
[15:51] <ChogyDan> MrMonkey31: if the package installs ok, and you trust the source, you can ignore that message.  It has to do with digital signing
[15:52] <Sakrecoer> oneagain: on point 3 at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#Set_up_the_servers it syas: "Start bootp: Here is a wrapper to start and stop bootpd from the command line." How do i use a wrapper?
[15:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> universal: depends, again. this current machine was installed as xubuntu 13.04, converted to ubuntu 13.04, and now runs gnome-panel
[15:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | Sakrecoer
[15:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> xtr: funny no?
[15:53] <ChogyDan> Sakrecoer: I think you put the code into a script, and run it from the cli
[15:54] <MrMonkey31> chogydan, yeaaaahhh... but ideally I'd want to make it work as intended right?
[15:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Sakrecoer: try sudo service bootpd start
[15:55] <universal> so which desktop environment should I run ??
[15:55] <universal> instead of unity
[15:55]  * MrMonkey31 runs away
[15:55] <ChogyDan> MrMonkey31: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/install-tftp.html
[15:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> universal: that's personal choice, but if you liked pre-unity ubuntu gnome-panel or xfce would be familiar to you.
[15:56] <Sakrecoer> Thanks a milion ntzrmtthihu777 ( ChogyDan & ubottu too) !
[15:56] <Sakrecoer> Service bootpd start won't do it somehow...
[15:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> !bot | ubottu
[15:57] <raven_> system does not send status mails any more: 12.04lts, ssmtp - manually via sendmail or ssmtp mails go out - any ideas?
[15:57] <universal> ntzrmtthihu777: yea gnome was very good......it was the reason I left windows......but now i am using unity.......I'm one adjustable kind of guy :)
[15:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> universal: oh I'm damned adjustable, but crap is crap lol. unity is a mistake on the level of windows 8
[16:00] <Sakrecoer> 'wrapper' is such a large keyword for searchengines... however, if i find my sollution i will get back to you and post it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2105561
[16:00] <karab44> how to modify grub2 to change terminal resolution?
[16:01] <universal> ntzrmtthihu777: lol
[16:01] <karab44> Im on ubuntu 1204
[16:01] <universal> ntzrmtthihu777: so what do you use ?
[16:02] <eos__> universal: mmmm .... new kernel let me see the 4GB SDHC cards, in a convoluted way .... but not the 16GB SDHC card ....
[16:02] <KeyboardNotFound> can i change my partition from ext2 to ext4 without lost data ?
[16:02] <eos__> universal: I get a "No NAND device found" in my syslog .... any clue?
[16:03] <universal> eos__: is your 16gb card in working condition ?
[16:03] <ChogyDan> karab44: maybe try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays
[16:03] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: sure, just have backups.
[16:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> universal: 3 os's on two machines; xubuntu precise on a Dell Inspiron ONE 2205, and dual boot on a dell latitude xt2 Kali linux/Ubuntu 13.04 with gnome-panel
[16:03] <Yu-Yu> eos__: Cool.Does your reader/adapter work with the card?
[16:03] <universal> no idea....
[16:03] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: (in case something goes wrong)
[16:03] <eos__> universal: yep, new and read both from the camera and from MS Windows 7
[16:04] <KeyboardNotFound> jrib, which software i need to use ?
[16:04] <eos__> Yu-Yu: yep ....
[16:04] <karab44> ChogyDan: thank you mate, I was already there
[16:04] <karab44> brb
[16:04] <Yu-Yu> eos__: On the same machine?
[16:04] <Asad3ainJalout> universal: did you get the screenshot?
[16:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> KeyboardNotFound: no.
[16:05] <eos__> Yu-Yu: this is what I get in syslog .... 2196.050168 r852: detected xD writeable card in slot; 2196.351174] No NAND device found;
[16:05] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: "no"?
[16:05] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: "no"?
[16:05] <eos__> Yu-Yu: what the heck is this NAND device?
[16:06] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: one second, I will find documentation for you.  You just run some tune2fs commands
[16:06] <Yu-Yu> eos__: NAND memory device is the device your card is.
[16:06] <KeyboardNotFound> thank you jrib
[16:06] <Asad3ainJalout> universal:??
[16:06] <universal> Asad3ainJalout: no
[16:06] <eos__> Yu-Yu: mmmm .... completely puzzled .....
[16:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: convert ext2 to ext4 directly. Unless I'm just a dumbass in this case I coulda sworn that sort of conversion was impossible.
[16:07] <Asad3ainJalout> universal: here it is again http://i.imgur.com/14INK4g.png
[16:07] <universal> eos__: sdhc card technology is NAND flash
[16:07] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4
[16:07] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: see above
[16:07] <KeyboardNotFound> jrib, i have ext2 no ext3
[16:07] <universal> Asad3ainJalout: what was your problem ?
[16:07] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: read ...
[16:07] <Yu-Yu> eos__: Your device tells your system it has a card installed. They used to be of NAND memory. However, your system does not detect any _writeable_ card. Check write lock?
[16:08] <Sakrecoer> further research brought me into believeing i should put the "wrapper" in a file named "bootp" into /etc/init.d .... could i be guessing correct?
[16:08] <KeyboardNotFound> ah, thanks you very much jrib
[16:08]  * Yu-Yu likely misread.
[16:08] <eos__> Yu-Yu: universal: yep, but why does it say not found? write lock is off .... card writeable ....
[16:08] <Asad3ainJalout> universal if i try to use apt-get or the software center in any way i recieve this error
[16:08] <eos__> Yu-Yu: it say first detected, and then not found? either it finds it, or not ....
[16:08] <Yu-Yu> eos__: No guess good for you on that.
[16:08] <Asad3ainJalout> universal: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:08] <Asad3ainJalout> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[16:08] <Asad3ainJalout> universal: you asked for that screenshot
[16:09] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: again, you should have back-ups of any data you care about just in case something goes wrong
[16:09] <KeyboardNotFound> jrib, how i can backup all my data ?
[16:09] <jrib> !backup | KeyboardNotFound
[16:09] <universal> Asad3ainJalout: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem read this and you will have some info abou tthis problem
[16:09] <jfritz> Hello friends - I need a hand with accessing a samba share from Ubuntu 13.04. It seems that when I mount a share through the file explorer, i'm always given guest permissions, even though my username/password matches the one on the server. if i mount the share from the command line and specify the username/password explicitly, i get the correct permissions. Any thoughts?
[16:09] <Asad3ainJalout> universal: thank you
[16:09] <eos__> Yu-Yu: universal: also, when loading the 4GB SDHC card .... it uses mmc0 / mmc_block ....
[16:09] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: and I'm not sure if it's mentioned there but make sure the partition you work on is unmounted
[16:10] <Yu-Yu> eos__: Likely either your system works not okay, or your reader does.
[16:11] <universal> eos__: thats alright....its a memory module thatsy it is using mmc...
[16:11] <eos__> Yu-Yu: mmmm .... likely ubuntu does not work well with SDHC, there is a list of bugs long like wikipedia since 8.10 .... the reader works.
[16:11] <eos__> Yu-Yu: well, all diagnostics suggests that it works ....
[16:11] <eos__> Yu-Yu: mmmm .... wait a moment!
[16:13] <universal> eoss: open disks or gparted and see if its listed there
[16:13] <KeyboardNotFound> jrib, thanks for help :)
[16:15] <User2005> I have a (I believe) udev mount in /media/{username}/{what-loos-like-a-uuid}
[16:15] <User2005> IT is a raid controller, with a single volumn on it; But I can't figure out howto mount this as a "regular" mount, in fstab.
[16:16] <john_john> Is there any linux distribution that comes with GTK nowadays?
[16:16] <User2005> Could anybody tell me, how I can't figure out what filesystem (I think it is ext4), and what device it is mounting?
[16:16] <ikonia> errr ubuntu
[16:16] <raven_> system does not send status mails any more: 12.04lts, ssmtp - manually via sendmail or ssmtp mails go out - any ideas?
[16:16] <john_john> wait so unity is GTK?
[16:17] <ActionPa1snip> john_john: unity is a plugin for Compiz
[16:17] <Chelsea> Hi all, is/will Mir be used as default backend for other distro's than Ubuntu?
[16:17]  * Yu-Yu works with her SDHC cards (8/16 GB) for a long while.
[16:17] <ActionPa1snip> john_john: when you use Unity, you are using Gnome desktop with Compiz WM
[16:17] <john_john> I see
[16:17] <Yu-Yu> raven_: Lol, here you again.
[16:17] <ActionPa1snip> john_john: both are coded using GTK
[16:17] <ActionPa1snip> john_john: Unity is not a desktop environment and does not replace Gnome
[16:17] <john_john> So I could essentially just disable Unity and use Ubuntu just like before?
[16:18] <ChogyDan> Chelsea: Mir hasn't been released.  The other distros will likely decide after release
[16:18] <ikonia> john_john: not quit
[16:18] <ikonia> john_john: you'd need something to replace unity
[16:18] <john_john> Because I like the gtk theming and I'm not a fan of kde. But this unity thingy is scaring me
[16:18] <john_john> I see
[16:18] <ActionPa1snip> john_john: install gnome-panel and log off, then log in to the new session in LightDM, you can use Compiz as the WM if you wish but you will need to disable the Unity plugin using ccsm
[16:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: install gnome-panel or gnome-shell
[16:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: whoops, wrong nick. john_john ^^^
[16:19] <john_john> oh so unity is just a replacement for the panel
[16:19] <john_john> good I c
[16:19] <Chelsea> ChogyDan, just out of curiosity, do you know of any distro's (other than ubuntu offcourse) that is looking to use it as a default graphical backend?
[16:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> john_john: not so much a replacement as a plugin.
[16:19] <john_john> idk I don't like all these new tablet oriented designs. Ima stick with my mouse and keyboard for a few years more.
[16:20] <eoss> universal: i am not eos__
[16:20] <universal> ntzrmtthihu777: gnome-panel is same as gnome2 ?
[16:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> universal: very close. like about 95% the same.
[16:20] <ChogyDan> Chelsea: no.  We will have to wait to see how it stacks up to wayland
[16:21] <Chelsea> ChogyDan, k, thanks!
[16:23] <jfritz> Hey guys, can anybody take a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/340492/ubuntu-13-04-mounts-samba-shares-as-guest-by-default-shares-can-be-manually-mou for me?
[16:23] <eeos> Yu-Yu: universal: I am trying to see whether VirtualBox can read the card .... that would be slightly funny, anyway ....
[16:23] <jfritz> i'm having trouble mounting a samba share with correct permissions
[16:24] <universal> ntzrmtthihu777: hmm....how is openbox cinnamon comapred to gnome-panel and is gnome-panel better than gnome2 ?
[16:25] <universal> eeos: maybe virtual machine is causing the problem....check your card on a installed system and not in VM
[16:25] <john_john> wait so Unity is just a launcher with menus in it?
[16:25] <Sakrecoer> it seems that i was guessing right!
[16:25] <Sakrecoer> :)
[16:25] <john_john> or is it like a file browser in it as well?
[16:25] <john_john> (sorry haven't used ubuntu for ages)
[16:26] <universal> john_john: its a desktop environment.....file browser is nautilis
[16:26] <john_john> but
[16:26] <eeos> Yu-Yu: universal: nope, the vm was not fired when I tried ....
[16:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> universal: these are all matters of opinion, mine will not be the same as yours.
[16:26] <john_john> ;_;
[16:27] <eeos> Yu-Yu: universal: incredible ..... I did modprobe -r 852; modprobe -r sdhc_pci; modprobe r852; modprobe sdhc_pci; with the card in the slot .... and the system now reads it fine.
[16:27] <eeos> Yu-Yu: universal: what on earth ....
[16:27] <Yu-Yu> eeos: What?
[16:28]  * Yu-Yu is gonna resume her boring life.
[16:28] <Yu-Yu> bb
[16:28] <eeos> Yu-Yu: I followed the last post here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1611491.html
[16:29] <eeos> Yu-Yu: thanks!
[16:30] <eeos> brb
[16:33] <john_john> Now it's time for install :D
[16:33] <john_john> (i'm so excited wowow)
[16:33] <vmachine> does anyone know how to uninstall gns3 from source...
[16:33] <vmachine> ive installed it but cannot find a way to remove
[16:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> vmachine: make uninstall?
[16:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> vmachine: should be, but not all follow the manual on that. In any case, install checkinstall and use that instead next time. it will install the source as a deb and make for easy removal.
[16:37] <jlharmon001> I am starting with a minimal install of ubuntu 12.04 with no DM. I've copied over my sources.list.d directory from another machine with 12.04 installed and used apt-ket to export all keys and imported those keys to another machine. However when I attempt to install packages it seems to refuses to isntall due to other package dependancies not being installed. After manually entering all the files it says it needs to be installed i
[16:37] <Mike9863> My external mouse and keyboard stopped working for some reason. I'm sure they will work if I restart my computer but I'd rather not do that. Does anyone know of a way for me to refresh them being detected or something? I tried removing and inserting the USB dongle but that didn't work.
[16:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Mike9863: do you know the module they use? rmmod and modprobe it.
[16:38] <vmachine> no i dont
[16:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> jlharmon001: apt-get -f install?
[16:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> vmachine: don't what?
[16:40] <jlharmon001> ntzrmtthihu777: apt-get -f install doesn't seem to change anything
[16:41] <vmachine> apt-get installs v0.83 but source installs v0.84
[16:41] <vmachine> i need to uninstall v0.84
[16:43] <Ampelbein> jlharmon001: Can you provide a paste bin with the actual errors you get?
[16:47] <jfritz> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble mounting a guest share from Ubuntu 13.04 - seems as though the username/password isn't being passed. I wrote up the issue here http://askubuntu.com/questions/340492/ubuntu-13-04-mounts-samba-shares-as-guest-by-default-shares-can-be-manually-mou
[16:49] <tonph`> hey guys, how can i specify my private key in connecting using ssh in ubuntu ?
[16:49] <john_john> Is there still no Adobe Shockwave support for Ubuntu?
[16:50] <yigal> tonph`: -i
[16:50] <tonph`> yigal: ssh -i /path/to/my/priatekey user@myserver.com ?
[16:51] <yigal> tonph`: ssh -i <private key> <user>@<server>
[16:51] <tonph`> yigal : thanks let me try that...
[16:51] <yigal> tonph`: cool
[16:53] <jlharmon001> Ampelbein: http://pastebin.com/yyUGae50
[16:54] <Ampelbein> jlharmon001: There is no package named mate-core in any Ubuntu Series.
[16:55] <john_john> Why are there so many websites that need shockwave to be displayed properly, is the only option to run Firefox through Wine and install shockwave in it?
[16:56] <yigal> tonph`: tbh it's the same in any OS using openssh, so pretty universal
[16:56] <tonph`> yigal : :(, it didnt work, permission denied. I had the key in ppk format so converted using `puttygen id_dsa.ppk -O private-openssh -o id_dsa`
[16:57] <Ampelbein> john_john: Either wine+firefox or stop using sites that require proprietary plugins.
[16:57] <john_john> alright
[16:58] <tonph`> yigal : then used `ssh -i id_dsa user@server.com` but it shown me permission denied... :(
[16:58] <irontomrackham> hi
[16:58] <yigal> tonph`: do you have access from another server?
[16:59] <yigal> tonph`: if so what are you using to get it?
[16:59] <yigal> tonph`: did you look at ssh -v (verbose) ?
[16:59] <tonph`> yigal: m just trying to connect to my linux laptop ... i havnt tried -v .. let me check that
[17:00] <yigal> tonph`: see what it might be hanging on
[17:00] <yigal> tonph`: it might be the permission of the key, or of the host filesystem
[17:00] <yigal> tonph`: anyways that's where I would go next
[17:01] <tonph`> yigal: thanks let me wrestle a bit more and bell the ring back .. thanks
[17:01] <darkelfjuggalo> I am using ubuntu 13.04 is there a way to do a direct Downgrade to 12.04 LTS without wiping all of my personal data?
[17:01] <yigal> tonph`: gl sir
[17:01] <Ampelbein> tonph`: Just to make sure: You added the public part of your key on the server side? (ssh-copy-id)?
[17:01] <tonph`> yigal : thanks ..
[17:02] <tonph`> ampelbein: yeah thats is there... let me wrestle a bit more and come bak to u guys, thanks
[17:02] <AcidRain2012> Ampelbein, try #openssh but i can tell you yigal is probably right. when i was getting 'connection refused' and no errors at all, it was the permissions on the ca file and the filesystem
[17:02] <AcidRain2012> you can have the right owner and group. but if permissions arent set then you get locked out
[17:03] <yigal> darkelfjuggalo: please read http://askubuntu.com/questions/49869/how-to-roll-back-ubuntu-to-a-previous-version
[17:03] <yigal> darkelfjuggalo: this is just the state of trying to downgrade
[17:05] <yigal> darkelfjuggalo: if you are considering an upgrade from 12.04 -> 13.04 and are just wondering what your options are for downgrading.  The bottom line is make a full system backup, if possible so you can roll everything back if necessary.
[17:05] <darkelfjuggalo> Thank yigal; is there way to fresh install and import my personal data... not so much the packages as to my docs, images and music etc... the work that I would otherwise be using?
[17:06] <darkelfjuggalo> yigal; I migrated from Win7 to 13.04 but many of the packages I need are unstable in 13.04 and I'm trying to go to a version that will be more stable
[17:07] <yigal> darkelfjuggalo: in terms of data, it's an application per application sense of migrating
[17:07] <mikere> darkelfjuggalo: Back up your documents and then copy them back in after a clean install.
[17:08] <nomike> hi
[17:08] <mikere> darkelfjuggalo: unless you have some unusual applications that require things to be stored in odd formats like in a mysql database.
[17:08] <kenshiro> Hi, what's the best way of install Open Sound System in Ubuntu 12.04? (and remove alsa and pulseaudio)
[17:08] <darkelfjuggalo> So what I need into my drop box and start over...
[17:09] <nomike> I'm running ubuntu 13.04 with gnome desktop and I'm having problems connecting to a WPA2 Enterprise WLAN because of a UI bug.
[17:09] <darkelfjuggalo> Yes, MySQL is one of my problems...it keeps crashing
[17:10] <mikere> darkelfjuggalo: For migrating mysql from one install to the next, you'd best check the mysql data backup/restore documentation.  Some times it's a bit tricky.
[17:10] <yigal> darkelfjuggalo: what versions is 12.04 using
[17:10] <socrates_johnson> hello, I installed ubuntu 13.04 on my asus laptop in legacy mode using a DVD, but when I try to install from USB I only have the option to boot uefi. Is there a trick I'm missing?
[17:10] <yigal> darkelfjuggalo: I can see that 13.04 is using 5.5.31
[17:10] <universal> how to clean up temporary files and recent files list etc like disk clean in windows ??
[17:11] <nomike> When I try to join the network using the network manager icon the dialog pops up asking me for the credentials and the authentication details. When I press connect, another dialog pops up warning me about that I'm not using a CA for connecting and asks me to either ignore or choose a CA certificate.
[17:11] <yigal> darkelfjuggalo: which appears to be the default of 12.04 as well
[17:12] <stevePage129> hey all! i have a quick question about IPTables Logging:
[17:12] <nomike> My Problem is that though this dialog is modal to the previous one (it's on top, the other one is greyed out), the event focus (keyboard and mouse) is still on the prevoous dialog.
[17:12] <yigal> universal: deborphan is possibly useful in this case
[17:12] <optimusprimem> hi, Ubuntu run fine in this configuration: 2GB RAM, HDD 5400 RPM, AMD Fusion C-60 (Dual Core)? <- this is a netbook
[17:12] <nomike> I can enter text, press buttons, etc. but I can not click on the buttons in the warning dialog.
[17:12] <darkelfjuggalo> I have never used 12.04, but my MySQL database, I can't complete due to crashes, I can't properly use several of my personal applications, like Skype, and my browser without Crashing, the drivers for my Mic and Webcam have not worked since I installed 13.04 over a month ago
[17:12] <universal> !deborphan
[17:13] <nomike> Do you know how to configure a WPA2 Enterprise in network manager without using this gui?
[17:13] <yigal> darkelfjuggalo: are you certain 12.04 will work, then?
[17:13] <yigal> nomike: NM is for woosies, just my opninion
[17:13] <stevePage129> i have added a Log All Packets value to INPUT and FORWARD chains to satisfy PSAD, but it seems that megssages are being logged to DMESG but not /var/log/messages. i am running this inside an OpenVZ container with a 2.6 kernel on 12.04
[17:14] <nomike> yigal, appart from that I never had problems with it
[17:14] <darkelfjuggalo> most of the people I talk to out of the chatroom are still in 12.04 becuase it is stable for them... a few never upgrade unless the new version is LTS and over a month old
[17:14] <stevePage129> lts = long term support >.<
[17:14] <eos> universal: hi there .... probblm
[17:14] <yigal> nomike: have you already read http://askubuntu.com/questions/279762/cant-connect-to-wpa2-enterprise-peap
[17:15] <eos> universal: sorry, SDHC problem solved in the most stangte way .... there must be something wrong at kernel level
[17:16] <yigal> darkelfjuggalo: personally in your position I would dual boot with 12.04, you will likely need to spend some time to get that OS to actually support your hardware.
[17:16] <eos> universal: every time you insert a new card, you remove the kernel modules r852 and sdhc_pci, and you reload them .... then you can mount the cards.
[17:16] <yigal> eos: dbus time?
[17:17] <eos> universal: if you do not do it, it returns a No NAND device found.
[17:17] <eos> yigal: hi there .... what do you mean?
[17:17] <darkelfjuggalo> my Hardware is just Toshiba Satellite Laptop, no modifications to the factory hardware
[17:17] <yigal> eos: get the right stuff to load at the right time, nvr mind :)
[17:18] <utusan> every now and then the bootup gets messed up and sound is dummy output.  Anyone knows how to recover without rebooting?
[17:18] <yigal> darkelfjuggalo: I understand but it will depend on the model and the actual components
[17:18] <eos> yigal: mmmm .... no, it loads them, but you need to unload them and manually reload them with the card in
[17:18] <yigal> eos: that would be the use of dbus to have them autoload
[17:18] <pupino> ciao
[17:18] <pupino> !list
[17:18] <eos> yigal: strange, but it seems to work ....
[17:19] <nomike> yigal, thanks. Haven't found this before. However, I found a workaround: I logged in using Unity-Desktop and there it worked.
[17:19] <eos> yigal: do you mean to unload and then autoload?
[17:19] <darkelfjuggalo> Some of my programs that are not in the repository, are crashing becuase 12.04 is the latest unbuntu version available on the site.
[17:19] <eos> yigal: how would you do that?
[17:19] <yigal> eos: the best method would be for the system to recognize the device and then behave as you are right now manually loading the drivers
[17:20] <yigal> eos: sorry man that's all I'm getting at
[17:20] <eos> yigal: yes, this is what the system does .... but if you autoload them, it returns the error No NAND device found
[17:21] <eos> yigal: so, you insert the card, the system loads the modules, you unload them manually (modprobe -r) and then you reload them manually (modprobe) and it works .... how strange is that?
[17:21] <yigal> eos: which means something is likely being read before it should be
[17:21] <yigal> eos: it's likely a matter of digging through dmesg
[17:22] <eos> yigal: there is a lot of documentation of this bug across all ubuntu releases since 8.10 ....
[17:22] <yigal> eos: but as long as there is a pragmatic method of actually arriving at a working solution then automate, that's all I'm saying
[17:22] <nomike> thanks for your help but I gotta go...
[17:22] <nomike> cu
[17:22] <yigal> eos: and in this case automating means loading the drivers multiple times
[17:23] <yigal> eos: or loading/unloading and then loading
[17:23] <universal> yigal: he is doing that inside a VM
[17:24] <eos> yigal: it could be .... but I frankly prefer manual loading, at this point. The bug is reported and documented quite extensively, and there have been several half batched solutions and regressions.
[17:24] <yigal> eos: what ever works, as long as you can live with it :D
[17:25] <eos> yigal: yep, it gives you more low level control .... even if because of a bug. :D
[17:25] <yigal> eos: or perhaps it's ... a feature :P
[17:25] <eos> yigal: I am slowly dropping down to enlightment and CLI.
[17:26] <eos> yigal: yes :D
[17:26] <universal> eos: modprobe -r only blacklists the modules and doesn't unloads them....try rmmod module and then modprobe and test
[17:27] <eos> universal: ? but the man page of modprobe says the oposite!
[17:27] <universal> eos: whatever....try rmmod and see if it works
[17:27] <optimusprimem> my solution for my asking
[17:27] <optimusprimem> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[17:28] <yigal> eos: you mean the man pages for rmmod write to the effect that modprobe -r should be used in most cases
[17:29] <WilliamGrant> Im very new to Ubuntu and I have problem with starting up. When booting ubuntu it only shows a command promt(GBU GRUB) and it wont start ubuntu gui
[17:30] <eos> yigal: nope, I mean the man pages of modprobe at the option -r says "This option causes modprobe to remove rather than insert a module. If the modules it depends on are also unused,
[17:30] <eos>            modprobe will try to remove them too. Unlike insertion, more than one module can be specified on the command line (it
[17:30] <eos>            does not make sense to specify module parameters when removing modules)."
[17:30] <daedeloth> I'm a bit lost with video drivers. Steam sais I don't have direct rendering. When I run 64bit versino of glxinfo, I have direct rendering just fine. I don't know how to check the 32bit version
[17:30] <eos> yigal: universal: I have tried with rmmod and it works exactly the same way.
[17:31] <yigal> universal: where are you getting your info on using rmmod?
[17:31] <yigal> universal: over modprobe, reading its man page it's not 'blacklisting'.  Is this what it's doing at the kernel level?
[17:31] <universal> eos: simple thing is that some other module is accessing your flash card and giving that error.....you have to find that module and blacklist it
[17:33] <yigal> universal: I mean modprobe -b is utilizing the module blacklist
[17:33] <Marlenee> i delete folder of "dev" by mistake in my ssh server ?
[17:33] <yigal> universal: just from a tersary rtfm attempt
[17:35] <yigal> Marlenee: read http://askubuntu.com/questions/18282/rebuild-dev-accidentally-deleted
[17:35] <eos> yigal: not using -b but -r
[17:35] <yigal> Marlenee: as far as I can tell rebooting and you should be good to go, but make sure you have backup
[17:35] <holygh0strecon> hello. trying to config printer in xubuntu 12.04LTS to scan documents
[17:35] <yigal> eos: exactly, so I want to understand what universal is getting at
[17:35] <eos> yigal: universal: anyway, it works exactly the same with rmmod.
[17:36] <eos> yigal: sorry .... misunderstood.
[17:37] <pensacola_> hi all. I have a laptop Lenovo ideapad u310 and I'm uisng ubuntu 13.04 but my battery is not charging 100% only 90%. How can this be fixed?
[17:37] <Marlenee> yigal : my python application crashed after i delete the 'dev' folder ?
[17:38] <eos> yigal: (by the way, they are all symlinks to kmod)
[17:38] <yigal> Marlenee: yes, the /dev/ directory is absolutely essential but should be recreated after a reboot
[17:39] <yigal> eos: lol, interesting
[17:39] <eos> yigal: yes :D
[17:39] <holygh0strecon> anyone using a multi-function printer to scan in ubuntu?
[17:39] <decci> I am unable to run hive command on command prompt. It says ftp://208.131.136.204/
[17:39] <decci> sorry
[17:39] <motz> hi, I have mini boombox by logitech. How can I get it working under ubuntu?
[17:40] <yigal> holygh0strecon: yes most desktop users are.  What is your question sir?
[17:40] <decci> The error it shows: While I run hive on shell it says "Cannot find hadoop installation: \$HADOOP_HOME or \$HADOOP_PREFiX must be set or hadoop must be in the path
[17:40] <decci> I am able to run echo $HADOOP_HOME and $HADOOP_PREIX without any error
[17:41] <yigal> decci: just because these variables are set doesn't mean that the daemon is up and running
[17:41] <willows0> I've been having some issues with the fullscreen mode of this gaming emulator I use (fceux). It worked fine on Unity, but with LXDE when I select fullscreen a window takes up the whole screen, but the actual game only takes up about 1/4 of the screen (as opposed to the full screen on Unity). Any idea what the issue is?
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[17:41] <decci> yigal: All I know is one need to run hive command and it should run right
[17:42] <decci> yigal: How to fix it?
[17:42] <yigal> decci: can you see via netstat if the hadoop daemon is running, that's #1
[17:42] <Marlenee> yigal : the folder dev is restored as default
[17:42] <Marlenee> yigal : i need tool that can back up my whole server ??
[17:42] <yigal> Marlenee: no, the /dev/ directory should be restored because that is normally what happens at boot
[17:43] <yigal> Marlenee: yes, removing the /dev directory is NOT good
[17:43] <decci> yigal: Let me check one by one
[17:43] <yigal> decci: cool
[17:43] <loki_> Hello.  can anyone tell me how to enable the built in VNC server in ubuntu from the CLI?
[17:43] <Marlenee> yigal : i remove it by mistake
[17:43] <yigal> Marlenee: mistakes happen, that's why backups should be made
[17:43] <Marlenee> yigal : what is the tool built in ubuntu for backup whole server
[17:44] <loki_> anyone?
[17:44] <loki_> no?
[17:44] <yigal> Marlenee: there is no single tool, but there are tools that will do it
[17:44] <Makkusu> Hi guys, I want to install Ubuntu 13.04 x64 and I have an EFI BIOS. Disk0 has Windows 8 installed. I want to install Ubuntu on Disk 2. Should I create an EFI partition on Disk 2? Where do I install the boot loader then?
[17:44] <yigal> loki_: server or client?
[17:44] <stevePage129> i have added log all dropped packets to input and forward chains under iptables, however, no messages appear in /var/log/messages. i have found what i am looking for when running the command "dmesg", however, i require these to be logged so that they can be monitored
[17:44] <loki_> Makkusu: I have had no issues installing
[17:44] <loki_> yigal: would be the server I presume
[17:44] <holygh0strecon> sorry loki  noob here
[17:44] <yigal> loki_: what version of Ubuntu?
[17:45] <loki_> I am trying to connect to it without plugging it in to a monitor
[17:45] <loki_> yigal: 12.04.3
[17:45] <yigal> loki_: vino
[17:45] <loki_> is the built in?
[17:45] <Makkusu> loki_: So you installed Ubuntu on a 2nd disk and it automatically gave you dual boot? Did you choose "Install along side" or "Replace"
[17:45] <loki_> Makkusu: install alongside
[17:45] <yigal> loki_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/181915/installing-vnc-server-client-in-ubuntu-12-04
[17:45] <decci> yigal: What is the exact command to check hadoop through netstat
[17:46] <loki_> yigal: that doesn't answer my question
[17:46] <loki_> I want to enable that from the CLI
[17:46] <yigal> loki_: actually it does exactly answer the question you posed
[17:46] <Makkusu> loki_: Unless someone is logged in, it won't be easy. You need to start it from the command line with Display:0 or something similar
[17:46] <eos> yigal: it is interesting that there is no man page for kmod though ....
[17:46] <yigal> decci: there are several default ports Hadoop will use
[17:46] <loki_> Makkusu: someone is logged in
[17:46] <loki_> yigal: ….
[17:47] <basichash> How can I check which processes are using a particular port?
[17:47] <loki_> yigal: this would have been more fitting
[17:47] <loki_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[17:47] <loki_> just FYI
[17:47] <yigal> loki_: gl
[17:47] <sysop3231> Is there anyone here able to answer an EXPECT question?
[17:47] <yigal> decci: try ps -ef|grep hadoop
[17:48] <sysop3231> or able to point me to a channel able to do so
[17:48] <basichash> How can I check which processes are using a particular port?
[17:48] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | sysop3231
[17:48] <loki_> yigal: don't need luck.  the link you threw my was was helpful if I wanted to setup vino using the GUI.  not doing that.
[17:48] <loki_> thanks though
[17:48] <yigal> basichash: using netstat
[17:48] <sysop3231> netstat -an
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[17:48] <sysop3231> ss is a good one too
[17:49] <yigal> basichash: if you want to know which services are listening for requests use 'netstat -nlpt'
[17:49] <yigal> basichash: using 'sudo'
[17:49] <eos> yigal: this is really good https://events.linuxfoundation.org/images/stories/pdf/lf_elc12_marchi.pdf.
[17:49] <sysop3231> wonderful. i will do so.
[17:50] <yigal> eos: I'll check it out
[17:50] <sysop3231> I am trying to use a heredoc, using EXPECT to answer 'yes' to a bundle rake command. wow. im not sure how to ask on one line.
[17:50] <sysop3231> umm..
[17:50] <eos> yigal: ok, have to leave! Have a good evening .... thanks for help.
[17:50] <jfritz> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with guest shares in Ubuntu 13.04 and SAMBA. Can somebody take a look at this for me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/340492/ubuntu-13-04-mounts-samba-shares-as-guest-by-default-shares-can-be-manually-mou
[17:50] <basichash> yigal: I'm trying to use Tor, but Im getting these errors. I've changed to the to 9052: http://pastebin.com/uAPN0Yu4
[17:51] <basichash> *port
[17:51] <basichash> ubuntu 12.04
[17:51] <yigal> eos: u2 see you around man
[17:51] <sysop3231> I've asked this question on a forum,.. and laid out the question and information very well. Anyone with EXPECT knowledge and a spare minute or two, please have a look. Any advice is apprectiated: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/trying-to-use-expect-heredoc-to-answer-a-ruby-rake-request-4175475599/
[17:52] <sysop3231> sorry -- not able to fit that entire question on one line.
[17:52] <holygh0strecon> using dell sc420 xubuntu 12.04LTS canon pixma mg3222.  no scan funtionality so far. simple scan and ristretto say there is no scanner connected but print function works fine.
[17:52] <sysop3231> im new to irc, dont want to be annoying,.. but what does !ask and !patience mean?
[17:54] <mikere> sysop3231: it means just ask the question, don't ask to ask it, and be patient waiting for a reply - don't repeat it every few seconds.
[17:54] <bujitsubro> hello , i really need help please i have a HP Pavilion 15-b119wm Sleekbook  i just bought and i cant get it to dual boot
[17:54] <sysop3231> mikere: no problem. will do. thanks for any help.
[17:55] <yigal> basichash: what you will likely want to try to do is just telnet locally to that port
[17:56] <holygh0strecon> using dell sc420 desktop xubuntu 12.04LTS canon pixma mg3222.  no scan funtionality so far. simple scan and ristretto say there is no scanner connected but print function works fine.
[17:57] <bujitsubro> !ask hello , i really need help please i have a HP Pavilion 15-b119wm Sleekbook  i just bought and i cant get it to dual boot
[17:57] <bujitsubro> hello , i really need help please i have a HP Pavilion 15-b119wm Sleekbook  i just bought and i cant get it to dual boot
[17:58] <bujitsubro> hello , i really need help please i have a HP Pavilion 15-b119wm Sleekbook  i just bought and i cant get it to dual boot
[17:59] <bujitsubro> hello , i really need help please i have a HP Pavilion 15-b119wm Sleekbook  i just bought and i cant get it to dual boot
[17:59] <bujitsubro> hello , i really need help please i have a HP Pavilion 15-b119wm Sleekbook  i just bought and i cant get it to dual boot
[17:59] <bujitsubro> hello , i really need help please i have a HP Pavilion 15-b119wm Sleekbook  i just bought and i cant get it to dual boot
[17:59] <FloodBot1> bujitsubro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <ham1> bujitsubro, asking lots of times won't get you an answer any faster
[17:59] <basichash> yigal: How can I do that?
[18:00] <GiannisK> http://bit.ly/1a19GP3
[18:00] <bujitsubro> sorry
[18:00] <bujitsubro>  i fell alone
[18:01] <holygh0strecon> bujitusbro. sorry no help here im noob. was there an option in the install to format existing or install alongside?
[18:01] <loki_> if I run this command 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' how can I disable it?
[18:02] <ham1> bujitsubro, well just remember how much you are paying for any support and the first thing people will ask is have you googled it
[18:02] <bujitsubro> ham- yes i did but i hve gotten no where
[18:03] <holygh0strecon> bujbro what version of ubuntu? what does it display when you bootup?
[18:03] <bujitsubro> i was able to partion and instal and i can even see a boot file that says ubuntu in a list  in the boot from uefi file but but it wont load
[18:04] <bujitsubro> my ubuntu version is 12.04.3 lts 64
[18:04] <holygh0strecon> when i dual-booted a machine i had a grub do you have one?
[18:04] <kooty_n> can i get help about vidalia settings
[18:05] <bujitsubro> i dont think i have a grub a
[18:05] <jfritz> bujitsubro, what are you trying to dual-boot with? What other operating system aside from Ubuntu?
[18:05] <XXX> when installing ubuntu on a macbook, should i use the alternative mac iso, or stick with the normal 64 bit iso?
[18:06] <loki_> I guess no one has that answer
[18:06] <bujitsubro> when i choose  "osmaneger" it goes to th"hp loading scren " but it never give me a list of my os's
[18:06] <bujitsubro> i have win 8
[18:06] <Marlenee> libOpenCL.so.1 is missing ???
[18:07] <SchrodingersScat> loki_: could export it as something else
[18:07] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: is there any way to disable the command completely?
[18:08] <bujitsubro> jfritzz- i have a HP Pavilion 15-b119wm Sleekbook  with win 8
[18:09] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: is vino-server something that starts at startup automatically?
[18:09] <SchrodingersScat> loki_: export is a bash built-in afaik
[18:10] <sysop3231> SchrodingersScat is the internet-hero of the day. with his/her advice i was able to use empty-expect to solve my issue. code:
[18:10] <sysop3231>  56  empty -f -i in -o out sudo -u git -H bundle exec rake gitlab:setup RAILS_ENV=production
[18:10] <sysop3231>    57  empty -w -i out -o in "(yes/no)? " "yes\n"
[18:10] <nem> system booting without full network configuration
[18:11] <nem> and now i have no internet
[18:11] <nem> whats the deal with this issue?
[18:11] <holygh0strecon> bujitsu have you ever heard of escrima? try this link for your grub problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/302680/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-alongside-uefi-enabled-windows-8-on-a-dell-xps-8500
[18:12] <holygh0strecon> bujitsubro; specifically thsi part: After installation is complete just reboot and check if everything works fine. Although, as your Windows is installed in UEFI mode you can experience problems, such as booting straight to Windows and not passing through GRUB. For problems like that you should use Ubuntu Boot-Repair tool. Also check these Q&As if in trouble: Windows 8 doesn't allow Ubuntu start-up and http://askubuntu.com/a/2
[18:12] <holygh0strecon> "this part"
[18:13] <bujitsubro> the philipino martial art heck yea its awsome
[18:13] <holygh0strecon> yeah i love it. check out that link it kind of smells like your problem.
[18:13] <Marlenee> libOpenCL.so.1 is missing ???
[18:13] <sysop3231> thanks for the assist. take care all.
[18:13] <holygh0strecon> marlenee is that for bujitsu's problem?
[18:14] <nem> can anyone tell me how to add my pci card
[18:14] <nem> i rebooted after updates and now ubuntu is saying
[18:14] <nem> that there is not network configuration
[18:15] <nem> ifconfig lists the devices
[18:15] <nem> they are there
[18:15] <nem> but ubuntu dont let me use them
[18:15] <holygh0strecon> going afk later all.
[18:16] <nem> grrr
[18:18] <loki_> could someone please help?
[18:18] <loki_> it looks like running that command doesn't allow me to log in locally anymore
[18:18] <loki_> how can I fix it?
[18:20] <loki_> no one?
[18:20] <loki_> 1721 people in the room and not 1 person?
[18:20] <seventhsamuari> lol
[18:20] <loki_> wtf kind of craziness is that?
[18:20] <nem> i know right
[18:21] <nem> im just going to switch to gento
[18:21] <nem> gentoo*
[18:21] <mikere> loki_: I just scrolled back 2 pages and I have no idea what you are asking
[18:21] <seventhsamuari> whats gentoo?
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> !patience
[18:21] <loki_> mikere: thanks
[18:21] <loki_> mikere: I was following these instructions
[18:21] <loki_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[18:21] <gordonjcp> loki_: what command?
[18:22] <loki_> mikere: and I ran the export DISPLAY=:0.0 command.  now when I try to log in locally, I can't
[18:22] <jfritz> Hi friends, I'm having some trouble getting Ubuntu 13.04 to properly mount a public SAMBA share. Nautilus doesn't seem to be passing the logged in user's credentials to SAMBA, and I'm only getting guest priveleges when it mounts. Details here:http://askubuntu.com/questions/340492/ubuntu-13-04-mounts-samba-shares-as-guest-by-default-shares-can-be-manually-mou
[18:22] <loki_> mikere: it tries to log in, then it goes to a black screen with a lot of text on it, then it drops me back to the log in screen
[18:22] <loki_> mikere: how can I resolve this?
[18:22] <loki_> basically I need to disable the export display thing
[18:23] <loki_> now all I see is "could not write bytes: broken pipe"
[18:23] <mikere> loki_: do you have two boxes side by side, one that you are ssh in to?
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> loki_  can you do ctrl-alt-F1 ? if you can, try to fix the fix the problem from there
[18:23] <gordonjcp> loki_: so where did you type the export line?
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> *typo
[18:23] <gordonjcp> loki_: and, do you know what it does?
[18:23] <loki_> mikere: I am have them here
[18:23] <loki_> gordonjcp: I don't know
[18:23] <MagePsycho> mysql -h<ip> -u<user> -pSome!d123 --> how to bypass ! in password
[18:24] <karab44> Hello, is there a big sense to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10?
[18:24] <loki_> MonkeyDust: yes.  I was trying to get VNC setup for demoting in
[18:24] <loki_> MonkeyDust: but apparently something went wrong.  now I want to drop that command so I can log back in to the desktop
[18:24] <gordonjcp> loki_: okay, so where did you put that command?
[18:24] <loki_> MonkeyDust: I was trying to set it up remotely from the CLI.  Apparently this was a bad idea
[18:24] <mikere> loki_: a reboot would fix it for sure, but there has to be a less intrusive solution
[18:24] <loki_> gordonjcp: I typed exactly what you see there
[18:25] <loki_> mikere: I just rebooted and it didn't fix it
[18:25] <loki_> like I said, now I see "can not write bytes: broken pipe"
[18:25] <loki_> and it drops me back to the login screen
[18:25] <gordonjcp> loki_: typed it into what?
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> karab44, Not really a support question.
[18:25] <loki_> gordonjcp: I SSH'd in to the box and entered the commands at the CLI
[18:25] <SchrodingersScat> loki_: afaik export sets a variable that is then passed onto what you run, in your case telling vino server which x display to use.
[18:26] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: right, so how do I stop it from doing that?
[18:26] <loki_> let me be clear, I do not want it to export the display anymore
[18:26] <loki_> how do I stop it from doing that
[18:26] <loki_> ?
[18:26] <karab44> wilee-nilee: ok but 12.04 is rather old
[18:26] <gordonjcp> loki_: so unset DISPLAY
[18:26] <karab44> anything I want to install I install from outer sources
[18:26] <loki_> gordonjcp: so I type 'unset DISPLAY'?
[18:26] <gordonjcp> loki_: yes
[18:26] <loki_> gordonjcp:ok let me try
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> karab44, That is an opinion, and your asking for opinions, not support, the validity is only personal. If you have specifics state them in actual use.
[18:27] <loki_> gordonjcp: Just typed that and tried to log in.  again I see "could not write bytes: broken pipe"
[18:27] <loki_> how can I fix that
[18:28] <gordonjcp> loki_: without knowing exactly what you did, it's hard to know what to suggest
[18:28] <loki_> gordonjcp: I did exactly what was in that link
[18:28] <loki_> exactly
[18:28] <loki_> what else do you need to know?
[18:29] <gordonjcp> loki_: didn't see a link
[18:29] <loki_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[18:29] <loki_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[18:29] <loki_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[18:29] <FloodBot1> loki_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:29] <loki_> gordonjcp: do you see it now>
[18:29] <loki_> ?
[18:30] <gordonjcp> loki_: no need to post it multiple times
[18:30] <gordonjcp> as you can see, you get quieted for flooding ;-)
[18:30] <gordonjcp> "Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance
[18:30] <gordonjcp> loki_: it was on a forum so it was probably wrong
[18:30] <loki_> gordonjcp: that's frustrating
[18:30] <loki_> ok.  let me copy and paste
[18:31] <gordonjcp> loki_: into a pastebin, please
[18:31] <loki_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6056172/
[18:31] <loki_> I stopped after the last command because it didn't work
[18:32] <gordonjcp> okay
[18:32] <sysop3231> is it possible to install mysql-server on 12.10, and specify the mysql root password ahead of time? Im automating an install and I dont like the purple user-interactive screen that comes up. Id rather automate it. Thank you.
[18:32] <SchrodingersScat> loki_: looks like it started vino-server in the background, so you could check if it's still running and then kill it
[18:32] <loki_> gordonjcp: just rebooted again and tried to log in.  still get the "could not write bytes: broken pipe" error.
[18:32] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: it didn't
[18:32] <loki_> I just said it didn't work
[18:32] <karab44> How many cats Schrodinger has?
[18:32] <mikere> sysop3231: no idea - but if you figure it out I'd love to know =)
[18:32] <seventhsamuari> exit
[18:32] <bazhang> !ot | karab44
[18:32] <gordonjcp> loki_: can you log into the machine locally?
[18:33] <loki_> gordonjcp: I have been saying that for the last few minutes.  NO.  When I try to log in locally to the account I get a black screen that says "could not write bytes: broken pipe"
[18:33] <loki_> if I use a different user account on the machine it works.
[18:33] <karab44> bazhang: what do you want? When I ask topic questions I am simply ignored
[18:34] <bazhang> karab44, you asked opinion not support questions
[18:34] <karab44> omg don't kill me please
[18:34] <bazhang> karab44, thats not appropriate here.
[18:34] <justaguy> goodevening ubuntu users \o/
[18:34] <karab44> are we in a church?
[18:35] <karab44> I am not offensive to anybody
[18:35] <bazhang> karab44, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[18:35] <loki_> gordonjcp: no suggestions?
[18:35] <karab44> In your judgement I asked opinion question but in my it was technical
[18:35] <SpeedRacer> Do you want more traffic to your website / blog / projects? Get free traffic with  http://www.te4everyone.com/index.php?ref=49
[18:36] <loki_> gordonjcp: what do you need from me to get this working?
[18:36] <mikere> loki_: you might need to edit the ./bashrc ./bash_login or ./bash_profile files for that user login to change the display variable
[18:36] <karab44> So why shouldn't Upgrade to 12.10? How maintanance of 12.04 looks like? I don't see it's maintained
[18:36] <loki_> mikere: how do I do that?
[18:36] <karab44> I see a lot of old applications, sometimes with many bugs
[18:36] <bazhang> karab44, 12.04 is LTS
[18:37] <karab44> yes so please explain what is LTS because I don't see any support there
[18:37] <bazhang> !lts | karab44
[18:37] <mikere> loki_: log in as a user that still works, su to root and edit the previous files I mentioned to change the display variable you exported previously.
[18:37] <sysop3231> got it. to install mysql without a password interaction:
[18:37] <sysop3231> echo mysql-server mysql-server/root_password password THEPASSWORD | sudo debconf-set-selections
[18:37] <sysop3231> echo mysql-server mysql-server/root_password_again password THEPASSWORD | sudo debconf-set-selections
[18:37] <sysop3231> apt-get install -y mysql-server
[18:37] <FloodBot1> sysop3231: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <loki_> mikere: where are those files located?
[18:38] <karab44> bazhang: okay it's a definition but explain me please what does it mean? Because I don't know what does mean support
[18:38] <karab44> in canonical way
[18:38] <gordonjcp> loki_: I don't really know, to be honest
[18:38] <loki_> mikere: if I type nano ./bashrc it's blank
[18:38] <gordonjcp> loki_: can you log into the machine locally?
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> karab44  support means, that you can ask for help, that new updates are being made etc
[18:38] <loki_> gordonjcp: I can with a different user account
[18:38] <mikere> loki_: /home/*username*/.bashrc
[18:39] <FastCode> loki_: because its .bashrc
[18:39] <loki_> mikere: let me try
[18:39] <FastCode> note the dot
[18:39] <ubuntu-studio> hello,
[18:39] <FastCode> hi
[18:39] <loki_> mikere: If I see that export display line should I just comment it out?
[18:39] <karab44> MonkeyDust: the problem is packages are quite old in this distribution. And it were not wrong if it was System, but applications should be updated but they're not
[18:39] <gordonjcp> loki_: I think mikere may have just told you what you need to know
[18:39] <gordonjcp> loki_: yes
[18:40] <loki_> let me see what I can come up with, be back in a few
[18:40] <mikere> loki_: but just for the user that can't log in
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> karab44  what's the outcome of     cat /etc/issue ?
[18:41] <loki_> mikere: I am looking at the bashrc and I don't see that line anywhere
[18:41] <ubuntu-studio> i try to run a program with c. extension that i saved on desktop, but terminal says no such file...why
[18:42] <gordonjcp> loki_: must be *something* in that user's profile
[18:42] <karab44> issue is that I feel 12.04 is not supported anyway. If it were situation like that I've installed Steam and later I had to format and reinstall system it's unpropriate. I feel like it's not supported but left dead.
[18:42] <loki_> mikere: are there any logs I can check to see exactly where the broken pipe is?
[18:42] <loki_> gordonjcp: I agree, I am coming through it again.
[18:42] <loki_> gordonjcp: is there a log I can check?
[18:43] <karab44> there are many problems like that. I can not even change resolution in textmode terminal because of bigger or lesser grub problems
[18:43] <loki_> it looks like ./bash_login and ./bash_profile do not exist either.  is this normal?
[18:44] <Guest8423> gf
[18:44] <gordonjcp> yes, that's not unreasonable
[18:44] <karab44> The same stuff with software- it's old. Imo core should stay untouched but any software should be updated in LTS, otherwise it is comes useless
[18:44] <Guest8423> Any testdisk/photorec expert here? I need an huge help, please
[18:44] <loki_> gordonjcp: could I import the bash_rc from the working user account in to this one?
[18:44] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Guest8423
[18:44] <gordonjcp> loki_: yes
[18:44] <loki_> gordonjcp: and it should not break anything?
[18:45] <gordonjcp> loki_: cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~
[18:45] <djs> is it possible to install ubuntu on windows8 via wubi?
[18:45] <gordonjcp> djs: don't use wubi
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> djs, wont install
[18:45] <gordonjcp> loki_: or, cp /etc/skel/.bashrc /home/<whoever>
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> djs, not a uefi anywat
[18:45] <djs> is there any easy way to install ubuntu on windows 8?
[18:46] <loki_> gordonjcp: so like this? cp /etc/skel/.bashrc /home/USERWITHGOODBASHCONFIG?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> djs, virtual
[18:46] <ubuntu-studio>  i try to run a program with c. extension that i saved on desktop, but terminal says no such file...why
[18:46] <loki_> gordonjcp: or like this cp /etc/skel/.bashrc /home/userwithbadconfig
[18:46] <loki_> ?
[18:46] <mikere> loki_: there are two more files - bash_profile and bash_preferences to check
[18:47] <SchrodingersScat> loki_: I think bad config, since that is the one missing it, right?
[18:47] <loki_> mikere: they don't appear to exist.  at least not in /home/username/
[18:47] <mikere> loki_: ok, sorry I couldn't help more.
[18:49] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: let me try.  I just tried the first one.  but it didn't work.  tried the second one and that didn't work either
[18:49] <loki_> are there any logs I can check to find this broken pipe?
[18:49] <mikere> loki_: actually, check for a /.profile variable
[18:49] <mikere> loki_: file I mean
[18:49] <loki_> mikere: what do you mean?
[18:50] <mikere> loki_: ./home/username/.profile - it's used by the display managers - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[18:50] <loki_> checking it now
[18:50] <loki_> nothing about the display in there
[18:51] <mikere> loki_: sorry, I'm stumped on this one.
[18:51] <ubuntu-studio> can anyone help me please_
[18:51] <loki_> mikere: I have asked this a few times, but are there logs I can check for this?
[18:51] <cloudy_nz> ubuntu-studio: what's the command you're using to run the C file?
[18:52] <mikere> loki_: I'd just be guessing, but possibly the Xorg log in /var/log
[18:52] <ubuntu-studio> cloudy   gcc
[18:52] <karab44> okay is making desktop upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 totally safe?
[18:52] <karab44> I'd like to mention that I have practicly clean system
[18:52] <cloudy_nz> ubuntu-studio: you compiled the source code file?
[18:53] <loki_> mikere: what data can I provide to help get this solved?
[18:53] <wbf> is 29*c a good temp for an I7-3770K?
[18:53] <gordonjcp> loki_: can you just delete the user and recreate them?
[18:53] <cloudy_nz> ubuntu-studio: sometimes you need to put "./" in front of the executable file
[18:53] <cloudy_nz> ubuntu-studio: e.g. ./myfile.bin
[18:53] <loki_> gordonjcp: hmm.  that may be an option, but I don't know how well it would work.  let me try.
[18:53] <mikere> loki_: the limitation is actually with my knowledge - sorry.
[18:53] <loki_> mikere: no worries.  thank you
[18:54] <ubuntu-studio> cloudy   i try
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> karab44, May I suggest looking up critical thinking. ;)
[18:54] <mikere> loki_: is it just the one user that can't log in locally or are there other user accounts affected?
[18:54] <gordonjcp> ubuntu-studio: what is this file you downloaded, and what does it do?
[18:54] <loki_> mikere: only the one
[18:54] <mikere> loki_: then gordonjcp's suggestion should work
[18:55] <loki_> mikere: I need to verify some things real fast
[18:55] <loki_> hang on
[18:55] <cloudy_nz> alas, for it is time to get on a bus & go to work :-/
[18:55] <ubuntu-studio> gordonjcp its just hello world
[18:55] <karab44> I just upgraded to 12.10 and I am encouraged of how fast it works in desktop. I mean 12.04 was nice smooth and fast but 12.10 is thousand times better
[18:55] <crazyHorse> hi
[18:55] <loki_> mikere: this is ubuntu running amahi, so I don't want it to break anything
[18:55] <sylvia_> hellii
[18:55] <gordonjcp> ubuntu-studio: so you need to compile it
[18:56] <crazyHorse> how can i remove landscape service?
[18:56] <karab44> So I am upgrading from 12.04 to 13.04 and just wondering is it safe and stable? My installation is quite fresgh
[18:56] <cloudy_nz> ubuntu-studio: gcc -Wall helloWorld.c -o helloWorld.bin; ./helloWorld.bin
[18:56] <crazyHorse> karab44: yes
[18:56] <mikere> loki_: believe it or not, I've never heard of amahi before.
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> karab44, why did you ask about 12.04 to 13.04 if your on 12.10?
[18:56] <loki_> mikere: i believe it. and that's ok
[18:56] <karab44> wilee-nilee: because half hour ago I was on 12.04
[18:57] <karab44> System upgrade takes about 15 minutes
[18:57] <karab44> or less
[18:57]  * cloudy_nz is a heathen using Quassel in Windows
[18:58] <karab44> so 12.10 is that damn fast, so I decided to try 13.04
[18:58] <crazyHorse> i am trying to format a 3 TB drive and i was using this walkthrough and everything seems to process fine but then it doesn't actually allow me to put any files on the drive and i get a warning in gparted http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> karab44, That makes no sense as all you posts have, you are working on opinions and asking for them, you are not even close to using this channel correctly, or a critical thinking methodology
[18:58] <ubuntu-studio> cloudynz why i cant run it from the name of the file
[18:58] <sylvia79824> hello
[18:58] <cloudy_nz> ubuntu-studio: find some C tutorials, you gotta learn how to compile source code, dude
[18:58] <sylvia79824> i have a question
[18:59] <sylvia79824> can i ask a real newbie question here on getting
[18:59] <sylvia79824> wifi to work on jolicloud
[18:59] <ubuntu-studio> cloudynz i already compiled it
[18:59] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | sylvia79824
[18:59] <sylvia79824> sorry, unformiliar with both irc and jolicloud
[18:59] <loki_> gordonjcp: I am checking on this.  like I said, I don't want to break anything with amahi.  give me a sec
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> sylvia79824, jolicloud has there own channel I believe, not supported here.
[19:00] <cloudy_nz> ubuntu-studio: this is a nice free ebook I read myself: http://bookboon.com/en/c-programming-in-linux-ebook
[19:00] <sylvia79824> ok.
[19:00] <doubleaykay> any tips on customixing xfce
[19:00] <sylvia79824> wifi works when i boot to windows, but not jolicloud.  ideas?
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> sylvia79824, I don't see a channel on freenode you might try ##linux, but you will have to register with freenode for that channel.
[19:01] <doubleaykay> thx
[19:01] <doubleaykay> bye
[19:01] <ubuntu-studio> cloudynz thanx
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> sylvia79824, probably a driver is needed is all, run lspci to find the wifi info.
[19:02] <sunsetlover> my wifi details is : 07:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter [14e4:4727] (rev 01)
[19:02] <sunsetlover>  " but is not working . any help ?
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom > sunsetlover
[19:02] <jfritz> Hi friends, I'm having some trouble with SAMBA public shares. Please take a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/340492/ubuntu-13-04-mounts-samba-shares-as-guest-by-default-shares-can-be-manually-mou
[19:03] <sylvia79824> this is what lspci shows - Xtreme BCM5752 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02) 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[19:03] <SchrodingersScat> when will broadcoms reign of terror end ;_;
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> sylvia79824, The problem is that jolicloud is a b it different so I would take that info and use it for help. We can't really advise a ubuntu fix on a not supported OS is all, it is the channel policy. ;)
[19:04] <crazyHorse> how can i uninstall landscape service and will it screw anything else up?
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> crazyHorse, How did you install it?
[19:05] <ubuntu-studio> cloudynz but wich is the command to find a file on terminal
[19:05] <sylvia79824> ah ok.  the support website suggested this irc channel, that's why i tried.  i'll try some other optinos.  thanks
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> crazyHorse, Appears to be a canonical product, however never seen it mentioned here, so some details will be needed really.
[19:06] <nodie> hi
[19:07] <nodie> why collectd fails to run after installing in Ubuntu 12/13?
[19:07] <mikere> How do I remove older kernels from my grub boot menu and remove the old files I don't need any more?
[19:07] <bazhang> https://landscape.canonical.com/    wilee-nilee
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, Thanks I found that, just not sure where its tentacles are attached is all. ;)
[19:09] <sunsnap> is this the support irc
[19:09] <auronandace> sunsnap: ubuntu support yes
[19:09] <sunsnap> my mouse isnt recognized by my computer
[19:11] <sunsnap> i went on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingMouseDetection
[19:11] <sunsnap> but it doesnt say what to do if the computer doesnt recognizze your mouse
[19:11] <sunsetlover> any help with my wifi
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> sunsnap, Usb mouse?
[19:12] <sunsnap> yes
[19:12] <hydruid> sunsnap: usb or ps2 mouse?
[19:12] <sunsnap> usb
[19:12] <hydruid> sunsnap: is the light on? the light is usually red
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> sunsnap, does it show in lsusb  ?
[19:12] <loki_> gordonjcp: it looks like that did the trick.  now I need to set vino-server to start at startup
[19:12] <sunsnap> light?
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> sunsetlover, You see the bits message?
[19:12] <sunsnap> my mouse lights up
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> bots*
[19:12] <hydruid> sunsnap: does it show up in lsusb?
[19:13] <blip-> hid, i've been trying to boot my system from USB drive (Live Linux loaded on it).  I checked the MD5 sum of the iso, also I tried 2 different programs to create the bootable USB.   I manually select the usb disk as my boot up device, but then it displays "loading operating system" and gets stuck there
[19:13] <blip-> in fact my machine cannot boot from my normal sdd if that usb flash drive is even plugged in (I manually select the ssd) !
[19:13] <hydruid> sunsnap: perhaps remove the mouse, then run "sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog" ,  and then plug it back in to see what the error is
[19:13] <sunsnap> ok
[19:14] <blip-> I tried Linux Live Usb Creator and Unetbootin as instructed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:14] <blip-> no luck
[19:14] <sunsetlover> wilee-nilee, sorry i didn't saw any thing can help me with my prob. i need to install my wifi driver to make it works
[19:14] <gvo> blip: do you have a second usb stick to try
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> blip-, Flash stick? do you get a black scree?
[19:14] <hydruid> blip-: you have a newer windows 8 laptop?
[19:14] <gvo> blip preferably a different manufacter
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> sunsetlover, That is the wiki on that broadcom card you posted.
[19:15] <loki_> gordonjcp: do you know how I can start it at boot time?
[19:15] <w30> mikere, I just use synapatic and seach "kernel". Then uninstall kernel stuff lower number wise lower than the one you use. On reboot grub removes the deleted kernels from it's list.
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> sunsetlover, IF you do not understand it that is okay, state that.
[19:16] <SchrodingersScat> loki_: crontab is one way
[19:16] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: I am on the local machine now in the startup applications gui
[19:16] <sunsnap> so i did what hydruid said and this is what popped uphttp://pastebin.com/LXW90G3u
[19:16] <mikere> w30: thanks - that sounds like a great way to do it.
[19:16] <w30> mikere, if it just says kernel with no numbers I leave it. Works for me.
[19:17] <sunsetlover> sorry but i didn't understand how to install the bcm43xx driver
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> w30, you have to run a update grub to remove them from the grub menu, unless synaptic is doing that.
[19:17] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: as a test I opened a terminal and typed "sudo /usr/lib/vino/vino-server" and I get an error that says "the desktop sharing service is not enabled so it should not be run"
[19:17] <hydruid> sunsnap: is your mouse this "Holtek USB Gaming Mouse]"
[19:17] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: so how can I work around that
[19:17] <blip-> wilee-nilee, hydruid:  The issue is stuck on the "Loading operating systems" screen, ie before or during when the bios is loading the OS from the USB flash stick.  I run windows 7 currently, I think bios/hardware config is preventing the boot
[19:17] <sunsnap> probably
[19:17] <sunsnap> its actually perixx but
[19:17] <sunsnap> perixx mouse
[19:18] <sunsnap> i think its Holtek USB gaming mouse though
[19:18] <MagePsycho> how to copy and replace existing files
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> blip-, So a stuck screen?
[19:18] <hydruid> blip-: see if there is an option in the bios for legacy boot
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> blip-, Is this a uefi W7?
[19:18] <SchrodingersScat> loki_: don't think you need to run it as root, but you should check that page again, I think it mentions setting the preferences first
[19:18] <sunsetlover> wilee-nilee, sorry but i didn't understand how to install the bcm43xx driver
[19:18] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: I set those in the GUI
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> sunsetlover, That helps to know, someone more familiar will help you most likely, not an area I'm real up on is all.
[19:19] <hydruid> sunsnap: good and bad news, I found a post on the Ubuntu forums with a solution.....bad news it the forums are down for maintenance lol
[19:19] <MagePsycho> cp -rf * .htaccess ../dev2/ doesn't work.. it ask confirmation for overriting
[19:19] <sunsnap> lol
[19:19] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: I need this thing to start at startup.  it is critical
[19:19] <sunsnap> can i get the link? for later
[19:19] <blip-> wilee-nilee, no, regular updated bios on Gigabyte Z68XP-ud3 motherboard.  odd that it cannot even boot my normal windows OS when this USB drive is simply plugged in..
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | blip- try this as a start
[19:20] <justaguy> aha! i know how to get broadcoms working on ubuntu! , wait i will look up the command for you!
[19:20] <hydruid> sunsnap: sure, made it shorter since it's uber long: http://alturl.com/stn8i
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, make sure you use their nick to help them is all. ;)
[19:21] <sunsnap> hydruid, which link is it?
[19:21] <sunsnap> im guessing the first result?
[19:21] <Shakaz> will ubuntu install on a GPT disk?
[19:21] <hydruid> sunsnap: the first one lol
[19:21] <sunsnap> :P
[19:21] <cigfresh> Hey niggers
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> blip-, There is efi use yes.
[19:21] <justaguy> wilee-nilee : i don't know who is having problems :p , but try sudo apt-get install kernel-bcmwl-source
[19:22] <cigfresh> Enjoying the flavor off each other's dicks?
[19:22] <cigfresh> Faggots
[19:22] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:23] <Shakaz> will ubuntu install on a GPT disk via legacy?
[19:23] <blip-> wilee-nilee, thank you, from the appearance the issue is happening pre-kernel bootup.  about uefi, I don't have uefi bios installed, normal bios
[19:24] <Sach> Is there a command I can run in terminal to identify why Ubuntu 12.04 keeps freezing?
[19:24] <ubuntu-studio> i found a C. file on desktop with the locate command, but when i do gcc  it tells me no such file or directory
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> blip-, Your description is a bit confusing, a usb plugged in should not affect the windows boot, unless you have moved the usb first and it is doing what ever it does, and windows does not get the boot call.
[19:24] <ubuntu-studio> where is the error
[19:25] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:25] <sunsetlover> justaguy,  when i tried the code you mentioned it gives me this error : E: Unable to locate package kernel-bcmwl-source
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> !details | Shakaz
[19:26] <Shakaz> wilee-nilee not so much a problem
[19:26] <Shakaz> more a question
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> blip-, uefi system have it in the hardware is this a possibility?
[19:26] <Shakaz> will ubuntu 13.04 64bit install sucessully on a GPT disk that has been partionied?
[19:26] <Shakaz> via legacy boot mode
[19:26] <Shakaz> because for some reason uefi doesn't recognise the USB boot even though i've set it up to boot first
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> Shakaz, This channel can answer questions, however you have to be detailed.
[19:26] <blip-> wilee-nilee, hmm not sure
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Shakaz
[19:27] <blip-> wilee-nilee, ok i will check my boot settings again
[19:27] <Shakaz> ubuntu forums down
[19:27] <Shakaz> srs
[19:27] <gordonjcp> loki_: I haven't used vino before
[19:27] <loki_> gordonjcp: I got it
[19:28] <gordonjcp> loki_: cool
[19:28] <gordonjcp> loki_: what's it for?
[19:28] <loki_> gordonjcp: it wasn't letting me start it from the terminal, but it let me set it as a startup application
[19:28] <SchrodingersScat> gordonjcp: vnc
[19:28] <loki_> gordonjcp: it's the built in VNC program in ubuntu
[19:28] <sunsetlover> i found in the additional drivers a broadcom driver need to be activated, but when i press on activate i hve this error : Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[19:28] <sunsetlover> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[19:29] <sunsetlover> what is that mean ?
[19:30] <Shakaz> ubuntu forums are down
[19:30] <Shakaz> ffs
[19:30] <Shakaz> ffs
[19:30] <Shakaz> ffs
[19:30] <FloodBot1> Shakaz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:30] <loki_> ugh.  something broke. FUCK.
[19:30] <loki_> brb
[19:32] <ubuntu-studio> i found a C. file on desktop with the locate command, but when i do gcc  it tells me no such file or directory....yesterday someone gave me the command and i solved it but i forgot wich was..
[19:32] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:33] <gordonjcp> SchrodingersScat: ?
[19:33] <gordonjcp> loki_: vnc?
[19:33] <SchrodingersScat> gordonjcp: that's what vino-server is
[19:33] <loki_> gordonjcp: no, this is an amahi issue
[19:33] <SchrodingersScat> ubuntu-studio: apt-cache search ia32-libs ##was it that?
[19:34] <gordonjcp> no, what's a vnc?
[19:34] <darkelfjuggalo> I run Ubuntu 13.04 on a Toshiba Satellite S855...nothing I find online tells me what the Built in Mic and Webcam are... Some of my work requires these two features, and Screencasting/recording [which should be available through the webcam] for the Camera, I have attempted every package for Webcam in the 13.04 repository, and the only thing that finds it at all is Google Chrome... my Microphone i nothing is finding it... Can someone assist me in fi
[19:34] <Schilcote> Hi, I
[19:34] <Schilcote> 'm having a problem with a server running Ubuntu Server, the latest version
[19:35] <SchrodingersScat> !details | Schilcote , tell me more
[19:35] <Schilcote> For whatver reason, it's refusing to accept any incoming connections from outside the network
[19:35] <Schilcote> I have port forwarding configured on the router
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> Schilcote, If needed there is a #ubuntu-server channel
[19:36] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:36] <Schilcote> Ah. should I head over there then?
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> only you will know
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> Schilcote, sometimes the channels are not as fast as some want just options is all.
[19:37] <Schilcote> Exact version from the banner that shows up after I log in is "Ubuntu 13.04 (GNU/Linux 3.8.0-19-generic x86_64)"
[19:37] <ubuntu-studio> schrodinger no it wasnt
[19:37] <ubuntu-studio> schrodinger no it wasnt
[19:37] <Shakaz> why are the ubtunuforums down
[19:37] <MagePsycho> how to ignore existing files while cp
[19:37] <MagePsycho> ?
[19:37] <Schilcote> I can connect to the server from inside the network, but attempting to connect to the internet-facing side of the router gives me nothing.
[19:37] <SchrodingersScat> ubuntu-studio: heard; was just checking
[19:37] <Shakaz> fuck the maintenance
[19:38] <blazemore> Shakaz: The Ubuntu Forums is temporarily down for maintenance.
[19:38] <blazemore> Shakaz: I read that on http://ubuntuforums.org/
[19:38] <Shakaz> for how long
[19:38] <SchrodingersScat> MagePsycho: -n
[19:38] <blazemore> Shakaz: I don't know, and presumably its unplanned maintainance or there'd be a timeframe
[19:39] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:39] <basichash> How can I use sudo with inline password?
[19:39] <blazemore> basichash: You can't
[19:40] <blazemore> !sudo | basichash you can configure your sudoers file to get the behaviour you want
[19:40] <phong_> hi guys
[19:40] <SchrodingersScat> MagePsycho: for more, see 'man cp' or 'cp --help'
[19:41] <loki_> gordonjcp: it was username woes.  because I added another user but appended a number to the end then I couldn't access the file shares from a remote computer.  created a new user with the old username and deleted the new one and that fixed it
[19:41] <basichash> blazemore: I've written a script that periodically needs access to root, but obviously i get a password prompt when it runs. What do you suggest?
[19:42] <loki_> looks like I am sorted.
[19:42] <loki_> thanks guys, I know I was a bit short, but this stuff can be frustrating at times :)
[19:42] <blazemore> basichash: What command does your script try to run as root? Is it only the one command?
[19:43] <basichash> blazemore: ifconfig commands
[19:43] <blazemore> basichash: Why not run your script as root in the first place then?
[19:43] <ubuntu-studio> schrodiger     if  have to find a a C. file and then see the content doing ./a.out how i have to do to find the file
[19:43] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:43] <basichash> blazemore: didn't think of that, good idea
[19:44] <xerxas> Hi all ! how can I check when did the last "apt-get update" occured ?
[19:44] <Sach> Is there a command I can run in terminal to identify why Ubuntu 12.04 keeps freezing?
[19:44] <see1> hello
[19:44] <blazemore> xerxas: Look in /var/log/apt/
[19:44] <xerxas> I'm booting some ubuntu vagrant box and archive.ubuntu.com is really slow where I am, I want to avoid running apt-get update so frequently
[19:45] <see1> can any1 help with comiling jsmin into php?
[19:45] <see1> compiling
[19:46] <xerxas> blazemore: thanks, any idea how I can do it in /var/lib/apt ?
[19:46] <xerxas> with a stat (based on atime, ctime or mtime)  ?
[19:47] <blazemore> xerxas: You could check the Access times on the files in /var/lib/apt/lists which is updated when you run apt-get update. If apt-get update was run with sudo you should also have a line logged in /var/log/auth.log when it was done.
[19:48] <xerxas> are you sure about atime ?
[19:48] <blazemore> see1: From the jsmin page: This project is unmaintained. I stopped using it years ago. You shouldn't use it. You shouldn't use any version of JSMin. There are much better tools available now.
[19:48] <xerxas> I mean , apt-get install sth , doesn't access these files ?
[19:48] <xerxas> I would have thought of using mtime
[19:48] <blazemore> xerxas: Yes, 100%. The files are read, and only updated if the version on the server differs
[19:48] <blazemore> xerxas: you said update, not install...
[19:49] <blazemore> xerxas: and it absolutely would access those files, where do you think it knows where do download sth from??
[19:49] <xerxas> blazemore: yes, that's what I'm saying, I would have thought that apt-get install , updates the atime of some files in /var/lib/apt/list/*
[19:49] <XXX> when installing ubuntu on a macbook, should i use the alternative mac iso, or stick with the normal 64 bit iso?
[19:49] <blazemore> XXX: What macbook, and what Ubuntu version?
[19:49] <xerxas> blazemore: where , apt-get update , changes both the atime and the mtime
[19:49] <XXX> blazemore: macbook air and 12.03
[19:50] <XXX> *12.04
[19:50] <blazemore> xerxas: I'd still recommend the history file rather than atime etc
[19:50] <karab44> my upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 fails
[19:50] <karab44> I asked you before IS IT SAFE
[19:50] <blazemore> XXX: Which Macbook Air?
[19:51] <XXX> blazemore: 13''
[19:51] <blazemore> karab44: I didn't think you could do that?
[19:51] <karab44> hehehe you could warn me then
[19:51] <blazemore> karab44: I thought you could go from one LTS to another, which would be 10.04-12.04, or from one version to another, which would be 12.10-13.04
[19:51] <blazemore> karab44: Well in my defense I wasn't here, or I would have done
[19:52] <xerxas> blazemore: yes, it's less a hack, but parsing auth.log, extracting the date, converting it to epoch , comparing whith $(date +%s) - 86400 is so much easier
[19:52] <xerxas> ;)
[19:52] <xerxas> I meant , harder
[19:52] <karab44> blazemore: I thouth it's risky so I came here and heard that Ubuntu is so perfect and it can handle such upgrade
[19:52] <blazemore> karab44: Well in principle there shouldn't be a problem
[19:53] <karab44> yes especially that I had quite fresh system
[19:53] <karab44> I mean freshly installed
[19:53] <blazemore> karab44: If you've got a botched upgrade I'd probably recommend just doing a completely fresh install and restoring your stuff from backups
[19:53] <blazemore> karab44: Why did you do a fresh install of an old version, and then try to upgrade? Why not just install the latest version straight away?
[19:53] <Extreminador> guys with compiz can we switch workspace using the mouse movements to the edge ?
[19:54] <blazemore> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:54] <karab44> Because it was LTS but finally it didn't meet my expectations
[19:54] <blazemore> Extreminador: Yes, use that ^^^^
[19:54] <see1> blazemore: pls wait i will look into into..
[19:54] <karab44> doing LTS should be critical and flawless but 12.04 it's not really best deployment
[19:55] <Extreminador> blazemore ny link to see the options because i have already read many options but i don´t see that one
[19:55] <blazemore> The point of an LTS is you don't have to do an upgrade for a few years, karab44. This is good for businesses and such
[19:56] <blazemore> Extreminador: There's definately an option in there for screen edges, try searching for it, ccsm has a search box
[19:56] <alfonsopio> ciao
[19:56] <alfonsopio> !list
[19:56] <Extreminador> for edges thanks blazemore good ideia indeed
[19:56] <Extreminador> this has a filter option
[19:56] <karab44> blazemore: Like I used to say before - in my opinion policy of LTS is wrong. There's no fresh tools and aplications so in the matter of fact it's hard to do anything without upgrading it
[19:57] <XXX> blazemore, any idea?
[19:57] <Npc> how do i enable pinch zoom?
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> karab44  discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[19:57] <sharif> ubuntu 13.4 blutooth problem help me
[19:57] <karab44> Yes here's the one that told me upgrading is safe
[19:57] <see1> i´m on Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.45-x86_64-jb1 x86_64)
[19:58] <wutang> GOOD MORNING VIETNAAAM
[19:58] <sharif> ubuntu 13.4 blutooth problem help me
[19:58] <wutang> blutooth?
[19:58] <XXX> "
[19:58] <XXX> 64-bit Mac (AMD64) desktop CD
[19:58] <XXX>     Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. This image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems. "
[19:58] <FloodBot1> XXX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <wutang> I'm low key like seashells I rock these bells
[19:59] <XXX> 64-bit PC (AMD64) install/live DVD     Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead.
[19:59] <sharif> bluetooth
[19:59] <karab44> blazemore: truth is that even mouse settings doesn't work well on 12.04 LTS. and it's more than year when deployed and bug still not fixed
[19:59] <XXX> so which so i take?
[19:59] <see1> i do this on my server -> mkdir jsmin
[19:59] <sharif> ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem help me
[19:59] <see1> cd !$
[19:59] <karab44> so what ubuntu LTS has in common with long term support?
[19:59] <see1> wget http://www.ypass.net/downloads/php-jsmin/php-jsmin-1.0.tgz
[20:00] <sharif> file not shared into my phone
[20:00] <Clearcoat_Ben> can anybody help me with setting up necessary partitions to install 12.04 LTS 64-bit on Windows 7 machine? The Ubuntu installer is not giving me option to "install alongside Windows"
[20:00] <see1> how i untar it now?
[20:01] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: Last time I did it manually I trashed my W7 installation.
[20:01] <sharif>  can anybody help me ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem  file not shared into my phone
[20:01] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: so be sure you backup anything important.
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> !partiton | Clearcoat_Ben get an idea here
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> !partition | Clearcoat_Ben get an idea here
[20:01] <Clearcoat_Ben> thanks
[20:02] <sharif>  can anybody help me ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem  file not shared into my phone
[20:02] <gvo> MonkeyDust: Isn't the recommended way of resizing Win parts to use the Win native disk tools?
[20:02] <TheLordOfTime> !privmsg | garrettkajmowicz
[20:02] <sharif>  can anybody help me ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem  file not shared into my phone plzzzzz
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> gvo  not sure what you mean
[20:03] <see1> if i do mkdir jsmin ...why i can´t see or find it in my root browser?
[20:03] <see1> some1 knows the location?
[20:03] <see1> mkdir: cannot create directory `jsmin': File exists
[20:03] <gvo> MonkeyDust: I've been told to use the windows disk utilities to reduce the size of the existing partition.
[20:03] <XXX> anyone?
[20:03] <see1> cd !$
[20:04] <gvo> MonkeyDust: because they are more reliable than the linux tools.
[20:04] <see1> and i´m in the dir /jsmin
[20:04] <see1> hae?
[20:04] <gvo> MonkeyDust: That used to be the general concensus.
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> gvo  you don't need windows to work with linux, they are completely different systems
[20:04] <OerHeks> gvo correct. let windows diskmanagment handle resize partitions ( vista/win7/8)
[20:04] <garrettkajmowicz> TheLordOfTime: I posted an AskBuntu question here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/307509/upgrade-to-12-04lts-dumps-to-busybox-on-boot
[20:04] <Clearcoat_Ben> gvo: I had managed to reduce the size of my original windows partition, but then when I tried to make it a usable partition it said there wasn't enough disk space
[20:04] <gvo> OerHeks: Thanks for the support.
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  ?
[20:05] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: who said that and how big was the space you freed?
[20:06] <see1> Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance
[20:06] <see1> common
[20:06] <Clearcoat_Ben> W7 disk utility said that, I had reduced my original partition from 972 GB to 437 GB
[20:07] <Clearcoat_Ben> but when that didn't work I now have it back to original I can send you a screenshot from the Ubuntu disk utility showing what it is set up now, I just need to know what partitions to make so I can install Ubuntu alongside W7 and be able to boot from either
[20:07] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[20:08] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, it is stated here > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows#Resizing_partitions  as windows diskmanagment checks for the empty space, and gives a max Mb to decrease the partition.
[20:08] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: since you restored it you can't install ubuntu.
[20:09] <arcsky> hello what is the default syslog in ubuntu? i have installed syslog-ng and all are now fucked up :/
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> Clearcoat_Ben  it's common to have a separate / and /home partition, and swap, use whatever disk partitioning utility you're familiar with
[20:09] <Clearcoat_Ben> the last time I had installed Ubuntu I didn't partition so this is the first time I'm partitioning and I'm just a wee bit lost
[20:09] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: and what does w7 disk utility know about how much space ubuntu wants?  ;)
[20:10] <Clearcoat_Ben> no W7 said there wasn't enough room to turn the unallocated space into a "dynamic" disk
[20:10] <SchrodingersScat> Eagleman: what does the /1 do in that crontab line?
[20:10] <Clearcoat_Ben> basically I just need a link to tell me which partitions to make, what minimum size they need to be, what settings etc. to install ubuntu
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> Clearcoat_Ben  i wasnt aware W7 is already installed and you want to resize without data loss
[20:10] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: forget w7.  Once the w7 partition has been resized, use linux utilities from then on.
[20:11] <OerHeks> Clearcoat_Ben, sounds like you have 4 primairy already?
[20:11] <Eagleman> SchrodingersScat, */1 should run it once every minute
[20:12] <Clearcoat_Ben> I had reduced the size of the W7 primary partition. Which gave me 430+ GB of unallocated space. I then booted from a USB into Ubuntu and began install, it wouldn't allow me to use the unallocated space on the disk to create a useable disk via the Ubuntu disk utility.
[20:12] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: what error did it throw?
[20:12] <see1> jsmin.c:59:17: fatal error: php.h: No such file or directory
[20:12] <see1> what means this?
[20:12] <see1> how i can get php.h ???
[20:13] <Clearcoat_Ben> it didn't give an error just wouldn't let me select "install alongside windows" and it wouldn't let me select the unallocated space as the point to install
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> Clearcoat_Ben  was that WUBI you tried?
[20:14] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: OK boot that disk/stick and run a live cd.  Then use gparted to create a partition.
[20:14] <Clearcoat_Ben> no not using Wubi, installing 64-bit in efi
[20:15] <Clearcoat_Ben> should I resize the Windows7_OS partition through Gparted or Windows Disk Manager?
[20:15] <Clearcoat_Ben> How many partitions do I need to make and what settings for each?
[20:15] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: windows
[20:16] <OerHeks> Clearcoat_Ben, sounds like you have 4 primairy already?
[20:16] <Clearcoat_Ben> 4 primary?
[20:16] <Clearcoat_Ben> how do I send you a screenshot in here?
[20:16] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: How many?  That's up to you.  I usually make 3 a very small boot, a reasonable root and home.
[20:16] <szahrat> Clearcoat list ur partitions
[20:16] <OerHeks> !image
[20:17] <OerHeks> !screenshot
[20:17] <crazyHorse> how can i uninstall landscape service and will it screw anything else up?
[20:17] <Clearcoat_Ben> http://imagebin.org/269598
[20:18] <Sach> Is there a command I can run in terminal to identify why Ubuntu 12.04 keeps freezing?
[20:18] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: can you boot a live cd/stick?
[20:18] <Clearcoat_Ben> I'm booted off of a USB right now
[20:18] <OerHeks> Clearcoat_Ben, yes, you have 4 primairy/ delete one partition, make an Extended partition, and let ubuntu make the logical partitions
[20:18] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: Running linux?
[20:19] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: sudo fdisk -l      and pastebin the output.
[20:20] <gvo> OerHeks: We'll see what he's got, (maybe)
[20:20] <OerHeks> gvo the image is clear
[20:20] <lordfreak> hi everybody
[20:20] <gvo> Oh, I missed the image.
[20:20] <garrettkajmowicz> TheLordOfTime: No luck. I still see the question marked as a duplicate. Title still lists: Upgrade to 12.04LTS dumps to busybox on boot [duplicate]. Might this be some advanced permissions that you have?
[20:20] <Clearcoat_Ben> it's not showing anything is that dash capital i?
[20:22] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: Nevermind.  I missed the image.  You have all 4 partions defined.  You can't add any more.
[20:22] <Clearcoat_Ben> nm, got it, screenshotting now
[20:22] <Clearcoat_Ben> ah crap, hmm..
[20:22] <gordonjcp> gvo: that's what logical partitions are for
[20:22] <gvo> I know.
[20:23] <gordonjcp> or LVM
[20:23] <lordfreak> I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 and I don't consider myself an Ubuntu/linux newbie but I just can' t figure it out. I tried normally installing Ubuntu alongside windows. But then it just boots directly to windows. So i tried to run boot-repair using a live cd and this just runs forever. Then I tried installing Ubuntu in legacy mode, but then upon restarting I just get a message operating system not found and can' 
[20:23] <lordfreak> Any help would be appreciated!
[20:23]  * OerHeks wonders why 2 lenovo partitons
[20:23] <gvo> But he's got 4 primary all redy.
[20:23] <gvo> OerHeks: Me too.
[20:23] <Clearcoat_Ben> yeah I don't know what the two lenovo partitions area, I'm going to look at that
[20:23] <Clearcoat_Ben> are*
[20:23] <gordonjcp> yeah, you need to delete a primary partition and make logical ones ;-)
[20:23] <gvo> and best if you remove the last one
[20:24] <Clearcoat_Ben> alright, well thanks for the help guys
[20:24] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: You could always buy a new disk and add it.
[20:24] <Clearcoat_Ben> I don't think my laptop has room for another disk
[20:24] <gvo> OK.
[20:25] <Clearcoat_Ben> I would completely get rid of Windows but I need to run some school specific software (MatLab, Solidworks and other such things)
[20:26] <gvo> Could maybe replace the existing HD
[20:26] <Diusgh> Anyone familiar with PPC G4 notebooks floating on here?
[20:26] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: gotta be a way to restore win7 to a new disk.
[20:27] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: Then that wouldn't work either.
[20:27] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: you'd still have 4 pri partitions.
[20:27] <szahrat> Diusgh: straight into the question
[20:27] <Clearcoat_Ben> I don't think I have a W7 install disk I think I have a reboot partition
[20:27] <gvo> That's probably what the lenovo parts are.
[20:27] <Clearcoat_Ben> I'm sure one of these lenovo partitions can be ditched
[20:28] <aaas> so during boot i get lots of mount errors from samba...it's as if mountall runs before my network is up, anyone see anything like that
[20:28] <Diusgh> szahrat: cant boot a '05 ppc lappy off ubuntu disk, burned through disk util on low setting
[20:29] <Diusgh> szahrat: trying to do a clean instal
[20:30] <Clearcoat_Ben> One of the Lenovo partitions isn't even mounted...
[20:31] <jrib> aaas: did you specify _netdev in the mount options?
[20:31] <aaas> jrib no i didn't (in fstab) is that what you have to do nowadays?
[20:32] <szahrat> whats on the screen when u try to boot??
[20:32] <jrib> aaas: not sure why you say "nowadays"
[20:32] <aaas> well nowadays to not have this problem
[20:32] <aaas> maybe it was always a requirement
[20:33] <AcidRain2012> aaas, actually i find that in ubuntu 12, fstab is less needed. by me at least. all my external and internal hdds seem to mount at the same location each time
[20:33] <gallez> hey guys, couple of quick questions
[20:33] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu 11- had some issue with this
[20:33] <aaas> AcidRain2012 how do they mount without fstab?
[20:33] <AcidRain2012> they just auto mount.
[20:34] <aaas> AcidRain2012 actually they are network (samba) drives
[20:34] <AcidRain2012> idk how. i didnt code ubuntu. lol
[20:34] <aaas> AcidRain2012 so through the gui?
[20:34] <AcidRain2012> what gui? :/
[20:34] <AcidRain2012> theres a gui for fstab? im mad now i didnt know of this
[20:34] <aaas> AcidRain2012 they automount through the gui?
[20:34] <Diusgh> Is there a foolproof method for converting an .iso to a .dmg that a '05 PPC OSX would recognize?
[20:34] <aaas> through the desktop
[20:34] <AcidRain2012> aaas, through the desktop env. yes
[20:34] <aaas> yeah im not using a desktop
[20:34] <jrib> aaas: I'm guessing AcidRain2012 is just referring to how partitions get mounted when you click on them in nautilus
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> aaas, mount? ;)
[20:35] <aaas> yeah i want them to automount
[20:35] <LinuxGold> anyone good with gcc?  I need assistance.
[20:35] <jrib> Diusgh: why?
[20:35] <jrib> !anyone | LinuxGold
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> aaas, not using a desktop env, yes id use fstab
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> jrib, man all of my drives mount as soon as my desktop finishes loading. no clicking on them in nautilus
[20:35] <shadej> I can not pipe the shutdown command frm with in a java program. is there any other program to shutdown other than the shutdown command?
[20:35] <aaas> ok thanks for your help AcidRain2012 jrib  ill look into _netdev
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> they appear on my desktop as well, because i selected that option.
[20:36] <Diusgh> jrib: PPC can't boot off the .iso file from dvd
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> aaas, id use UUID= in fstab to be sure fstab gets the right disk everytime
[20:36] <jrib> !cifs | aaas
[20:36] <LinuxGold> jrib: ok, I'm trying to compile something and make found an error, no type named 'iterator_cateroy' and few other classes -- looks like I am missing something
[20:36] <aaas> yes i have uuid and using cifis
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> cifs
[20:37] <jrib> Diusgh: you want to boot an operating system from a dvd?
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> !cifs
[20:37] <LinuxGold> I upgraded gcc and the ubuntu server (console only) to latest version
[20:37] <jrib> !smb | AcidRain2012
[20:37] <jrib> LinuxGold: you're being too vague.
[20:37] <Diusgh> jrib: no want to install off dvd completely remove osx off of it.
[20:37] <jrib> !ppc | Diusgh
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> hmmm... all of my external drives are formated to ext3 (from a few yrs ago)
[20:38] <LinuxGold> http://pastebin.com/9Nz9a043
[20:38] <jrib> Diusgh: I don't know how well maintained ubuntu ppc is; you may want to check out debian
[20:38] <LinuxGold> easier this way :)
[20:38] <jrib> !compile | LinuxGold
[20:38] <jrib> LinuxGold: you need to install -dev packages for whatever libraries you need to build whatever you are building
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> mapcraft hax i see
[20:39] <c4ifford> So been bashing my head against this issue all day long, I can't seem to get my wlan0 to connect to my access point running wpa2, i've been researching all day, found a few options that said it was an issue with gnome network manager and to remove it and configure it manually, i'm kinda out of ideas at this , no matter what I do the wpa is rejected
[20:39] <Diusgh> jrib: great thanks for the tip. I read through that faq already and havent gotten it running I'll try debian!
[20:39] <LinuxGold> thanks.
[20:39] <trism> LinuxGold: did you just mistype it? maybe iterator_category? (just a guess)
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, did you try WICD?
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> if that is the right package im looking for
[20:40] <LinuxGold> trism: That website is what i needed.
[20:40] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 yessir, did that was my first try after removing network manager
[20:40] <Diusgh> jrib: just trying to give my old ppc a new lease on life and try out ubuntu so see if I like it.
[20:40] <c4ifford> I've heard reports that this is a possible bug in version 10.0 + ?
[20:40] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, now do you have a network key? or a password that you are trying to connect through?
[20:40] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, i did have this issue on 10.04
[20:40] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 I have the network key, and it works on all my other RHEL servers
[20:40] <tables> how can i do full disk encryption on ubuntu?
[20:41] <AcidRain2012> tables, right click on "filesystem" and encrypt :P
[20:41] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, hmmm.... getting any errors?
[20:41] <tables> i want to do it  from the setup
[20:41] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, are you sure they are detecting your wireless card?
[20:42] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 I heard it was possible and issue with mixmode encryption, but i Have a shitty router from comcast that won't let me change anything below wpa2-psk without crashing
[20:42] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 just says bad password
[20:42] <c4ifford> in the wicd log
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, may indeed be the router. i had this issue the other day at my brothers house on a windows comp. my suggestion is to use backtrack and crack the keys ;D or force authentication into the router. lol jk
[20:43] <c4ifford> well I have the keys
[20:43] <c4ifford> they work
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, but for real though. i have seen that with routers.
[20:43] <c4ifford> ah
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> but lets investigate more while i am curious
[20:43] <tables> i have ubuntu 12.04 livecd, how can i do full disk encryption?
[20:44] <AcidRain2012> hang on one moment
[20:44] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, what version of ubuntu?
[20:44] <sere> queston: in order to get my mtp device to sync the play list it has to be in a .pla playlist format is this possible ?
[20:44] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 12.04
[20:44] <AcidRain2012> hmm
[20:45] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, do you have a built in wireless card? or a usb?
[20:45] <c4ifford> the one i'm using now is built in iwscan works and iwconfig shows it broadcasting to all the access points
[20:46] <AcidRain2012> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo  and you have read this and installed the wpasuppliment?
[20:46] <AcidRain2012> wpasupplicant*
[20:46] <c4ifford> Yes, I have
[20:46] <Maple__> Gah, why don't I have logs?
[20:46] <Maple__> Hai, this is a question not 100% releated to Xubuntu but an issue I haven't had on any of the other dozen or so other distros I've previously used. I'm trying to get Java Swing applications/online Java applets to use the GTK+ look and feel; I've tried editing ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc as well as /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/swing.properties without success. This is what I've tried so far (wi
[20:46] <Maple__> thout success) - http://pastie.org/8291574
[20:46] <Maple__> Assistance would be greatly appreciated, please. :<
[20:46] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012: I first ran through it and people were saying network manager was the issue like I said, and that it was incorrectly passing the WPA key
[20:47] <Maple__> I've also tried using the webupd8 Oracle Java 7 PPA.
[20:47] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 so far I've tried to configure it through network manager, wicd, and just through setting up the interfaces file
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, and you backed up the interfaces file right?
[20:48] <tables> how can i do full disk encryption on ubuntu?  through the setup livecd
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, pastebin.com ifconfig
[20:48] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 when I removed network manager?
[20:48] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 there wasn almost nothing in my interface file
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, nvm. just pastebin the output
[20:49] <AcidRain2012> actually, go ahead and pastebin everything you have for me. including the output of ifconfig
[20:50] <aJayMet66> crhabal im
[20:50] <aJayMet66> ping
[20:50] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, also the output of iwconfig
[20:50] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 hang on I gotta switch my wired connection over
[20:51] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, give me these outputs while your wireless card is enabled
[20:52] <ubuntu-studio> why if i use the command  gcc file.c   it tells me    gcc: fatal error: no input files
[20:52] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 well i can't paste because the machine has no connction, i'm another box for irc
[20:53] <AcidRain2012> errr
[20:54] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, have you tried using a laptop as a bridge? lol
[20:54] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, i did that for the longest time
[20:55] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, this may help u.  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=259245
[20:56] <benbro1> is there a global LibreOffice config file on ubuntu?
[20:56] <benbro1> I've found /home/someuser/.config/libreoffice/3/user/registrymodifications.xcu
[20:56] <benbro1> but I need to change a settings for all usrs
[20:57] <BLA_BLA> hi
[20:58] <BLA_BLA> hi
[20:58] <AcidRain2012> haxor!
[20:58] <AcidRain2012> flood bot!
[20:58] <ubuntu-studio> help!
[20:59] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/gccintro/gccintro_54.html
[21:06] <LinuxGold> ok -- need help installing mapcraft the mapper for minecraft game -- on my ubuntu server.  installed gcc, package-dev, etc...
[21:06] <LinuxGold> missing something still -- pastebin is the same.
[21:07] <LinuxGold> http://pastebin.com/9Nz9a043
[21:10] <ubuntu-studio> bekks     it doesnt work  >*
[21:11] <daftykins> ubuntu-studio: there's a switch you have to use with gcc to tell it 'input file' iirc
[21:11] <ubuntu-studio> bekks i need to see what the c compiler did about my C. file saved on my desktop....how i have to do
[21:12] <SubCool> where are the background wallpapers stored?
[21:12] <SubCool> http://askubuntu.com/questions/272058/where-are-the-ubuntu-12-04s-unity-desktop-wallpapers-located is wrong
[21:12] <jater> SubCool: /var/www
[21:13] <ubuntu-studio> daftykins and how is the command ?
[21:13] <SubCool> jater, no
[21:13] <jater> SubCool: I know?
[21:13] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: Please read the link I gave you.
[21:14] <SubCool> jater, ?????
[21:14] <SubCool> its not /usr/share/wallpapers either
[21:14] <jater> SubCool: use the find command?
[21:14] <SubCool> i have
[21:14] <jater> SubCool: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flinux.about.com%2Fod%2Fcommands%2Fl%2Fblcmdl1_find.htm&ei=yP8kUt3gM-aJ7AbD5oHAAQ&usg=AFQjCNEunQsG-0xPpu8TYantJTW91hXtcw&bvm=bv.51495398,d.ZGU
[21:15] <daftykins> ubuntu-studio: you really should get in the habit of looking things up for yourself, 'man gcc' i'm sure would tell you how to format it
[21:16] <SubCool> http://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-56476.html - they mentioned it..
[21:18] <ubuntu-studio> bekks
[21:18] <ubuntu-studio> thanks
[21:18] <ubuntu-studio> daftykins thanks
[21:20] <chachan> guys, which kernel modules are needed to work with VPN?
[21:20] <chachan> using vpnc, to be more specific
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> chachan: network drivers. the vpn is software and handled by network manager
[21:23] <bibi23> hi, I'm trying to allow remote connection from a given ip to my mysql database, after making changes in my mysql configuration and realized it didn't work, I'm wondering if the connection isn't refused at another level (networking), maybe port 3306 isn't accessible, when I do "telnet server-ip 3306" I'm getting a connection refused message.
[21:24] <jater> bibi23: cry me a river
[21:24] <chachan> ActionParsnip, hm that shouldn't be a problem. But I'm having this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/340508/vpn-connection-problem-with-vpnc
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> bibi23: did youbrestart the service to apply the new settings
[21:24] <zykotick9> bibi23: <ot> i'd say any "remote" database connection is a bad idea...</ot>
[21:25] <bibi23> ActionParsnip: yes, restarted after applying
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> chachan: what is the oyutput of: cat /etc/issue
[21:27] <compdoc> bibi23, you should read the mysql logs in /var/log/mysql/
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: can be useful. Easy managing of sql
[21:27] <chachan> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.04
[21:27] <compdoc> you have to gzip the newest one
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> bibi23: ask in #mysql as well
[21:27] <chachan> ActionParsnip, on amd64
[21:29] <xap> hey
[21:29] <chachan> bibi23, are you sure serving for remote connections?, try with: netstat -an | grep 3306 # from server
[21:29] <xap> whatup
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> chachan: is the endpoint a cisco system?
[21:30] <xap> kimse var  mı?
[21:31] <bibi23> chachan: it's showing this line "tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:3306            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN", I've put 0.0.0.0 in mysql conf instead of remote server ip for testing
[21:32] <chachan> ActionParsnip, I need connect to a cisco VPN, but I'm not sure what type of system it is. That connection works great for me but have no idea what crashed it
[21:32] <daftykins> bibi23: you've ruled out firewall i take it
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> !bug 1169283
[21:33] <SubCool> can someone explain to me why my computers are responding to their hostames?
[21:33] <SubCool> maybe one of them.. -
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> subcool: computers should do that.....right?
[21:35] <bibi23> ActionParsnip: so you think it  has nothing to do with ubuntu and I should ask in mysql?
[21:36] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, that is one of the points of a hostname isnt it?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> bibi23: someone in there may have configured the same in Ubuntu and have a pointer or two
[21:36] <Shakaz> does ubtunu work via legacy boot?
[21:36] <Shakaz> if i was to install it
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> subcool: netbios names make communication between systems easier for humans
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> shakaz: what is 'legacy boot'?
[21:38] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, isnt that kinda the same?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> subcool: same difference, yes
[21:39] <SubCool> id rather stick to Linux/Unix operations.. - not Windows.
[21:39] <SubCool> everything im reading refers to netbios as Windows..
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> subcool: hostnames and netbios are not windowsbspecific
[21:40] <SubCool> the few guides im reading shows netbios names to be assocaited with windows particulars
[21:40] <SubCool> cifs, winbind etc
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> SubCool  but windows is the MainStream for the desktop (kind of)
[21:40] <bekks> SubCool: You want to read about DNS
[21:40] <SubCool> idc..
[21:41] <SubCool> that i dont mind
[21:41] <SubCool> if DNS will fix it- sure..
[21:41] <SubCool> but- im really trying to keep away from Windows
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> subcool: netbios was made in 83. wasnt put into windows til 85
[21:41] <Shakaz> ActionParsnip, idk. but when i try UEFI, my USB drive isn't recognised and it only gets recognised when i change to legacy
[21:41] <SubCool> every guide i've come across mention windows smb stuff to amke netbios work. meanwhile.. my Hostname files isnt doing it.
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> subcool: its a defacto standard and not windows specific
[21:42] <Shakaz> but will ubuntu install in a GPT disk?
[21:42] <Shakaz> or does it have to be MBR
[21:42] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, i know what your saysing.. i coulda sworn it was apart of Novel and such.. or something
[21:42] <daftykins> ubuntu 12.04 and newer will install in UEFI mode to a GPT disk
[21:42] <SubCool> but- everything im searching comes back as windows stuff.
[21:43] <rabidmonkey> Hi, I'm trying to install Kindle for PC v-1.10.6 onto my Ubuntu 12.10 laptop using WINE version 1.4.1. When I do it seems to install fine but then when it tries to automatically run the program after installation it runs into this error message http://pastebin.com/0qngv0Sp
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> subcol: 86 novell netware 2.0 has it
[21:43] <SubCool> one of my 4 machines respond to their hostname
[21:43] <SubCool> my freenas server use to.. not anymore
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> subcool: you'll find people use windows as an example because admins can relate to it
[21:43] <zykotick9> rabidmonkey: you might want to try #winehq for wine specific questions
[21:43] <SubCool> well yeah, windows is #1 for users
[21:44] <SubCool> i keep pushing people to apply in my dialy practice
[21:44] <daftykins> nobody serious relies on hostnames.
[21:44] <rabidmonkey> thx zykotick9
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> subcool: do they respond to ip? maybe dns is failing or they havent published a name to your dhcp server (most likely your home grade router)
[21:45] <SubCool> daftykins, yeah, i know- im jjust aggitated cause o fmy router. my ip's keep changing, and i cant assign them. Not really without issues atleast. So- puttin gin my FStab a HOSTNAMe would make it work. but nope..
[21:45] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, yeah, theey respodne to IP- but.. my ips keep changing
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: sure they do. how do you think email clients function....?
[21:45] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: i'm talking LAN based here :P
[21:45] <SubCool> For instance my Freenas server is usually on .2.4 - but occasionly it ends up on 6 or 8.
[21:45] <daftykins> SubCool: you can set static IPs, there is absolutely no need for the router to support static leases just to allow that.
[21:46] <daftykins> in fact, i advise against DHCP leasing
[21:46] <SubCool> daftykins, yea- i know.. but sometimes the router messes it up and DHCP's an address to someone tablet or something
[21:46] <bibi23> ActionParsnip: mysql guys told me that if I telnet to the port mysql is listening to, even tough my mysql configuration is wrong, I should have mysql responding, but connection refused means it is blocked by a firewall or something before mysql
[21:46] <daftykins> SubCool: well you keep DHCP open for mobile devices of course, but why aren't you running PCs and the NAS on static?
[21:46] <SubCool> maybe i should just assing my machines to addresses further in on the ip range..
[21:47] <SubCool> daftykins, im trying.. thats the problem
[21:47] <SubCool> i have a crappy ISP router..
[21:47] <Shakaz> does anyone know?
[21:47] <SubCool> and sooner or later imma run a VPN
[21:47] <daftykins> SubCool: yes, the way to do it is to modify the DHCP scope to (for example) 192.168.0.2-100 then allow the static devices to exist in the gap afterwards - e.g. .101 - .254
[21:47] <Shakaz> will ubuntu install on a GPT disk or does it have to be MBR?
[21:48] <daftykins> Shakaz: i already answered this above
[21:48] <SubCool> daftykins, yeah, now that we have been tlaking about it- thats what i was thinking
[21:48] <daftykins> ubuntu 12.04 and newer will install in UEFI mode to a GPT disk
[21:48] <Shakaz> daftykins, it would help if you could highlight me.there are about 10 conversations going on.
[21:48] <Shakaz> daftykins what about legacy/GPT?
[21:48] <daftykins> Shakaz: it would help if you paid more attention.
[21:49] <daftykins> pro tip - do not tell helpers what to do.
[21:49] <SubCool> daftykins, i just kinda prefer my hostnames thing worked.. :/
[21:49] <daftykins> !uefi
[21:49] <Shakaz> daftykins, problem is. when i enable UEFI setting in BIOS, it doesn't recognise my USB to boot
[21:49] <daftykins> 'fast boot' disabled?
[21:49] <tables> how do i do full disk encryption on ubuntu from the set up?  i have the 12.04 cd
[21:50] <SubCool> k- well i have normal work to d- so il catch u guy later
[21:50] <Shakaz> it's a scaled down BIOS from SONY daftykins, it's not the regular bios. but secureboot is disabled.
[21:50] <daftykins> tables: i saw you ask this earlier, i'm sure there are plenty of guides and documentation on the ubuntu site to be had
[21:50] <tables> i can't find any
[21:50] <daftykins> Shakaz: so there's no 'fast boot' option?
[21:50] <tables> can you help me?
[21:50] <tables> i tried google already
[21:50] <daftykins> so the whole internet has no single guide on encryption with ubuntu?
[21:51] <Shakaz> not one that I can see daftykins
[21:51] <daftykins> Shakaz: how did you make your USB flash drive up, with which ubuntu also?
[21:52] <tables> daftykins: not from the set up livecd
[21:52] <gordonjcp> daftykins: a quick google suggests there is lots of information about using full disk encryption on Ubuntu
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> tables: its part of the install process as an option. just dont encrypt swap
[21:53] <Shakaz> no daftykins, i made it a bootable media with one of the programs on windows 7 (my other pc)
[21:54] <daftykins> Shakaz: i meant which ubuntu is on it? which program did you use then? unetbootin has issues with making UEFI boot drives
[21:55] <Shakaz> 13.04
[21:55] <Shakaz> 64bit
[21:55] <Shakaz> desktop*
[21:56] <daftykins> Shakaz: "One of the programs" is pretty vague
[21:56] <Shakaz> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[21:56] <daftykins> ah ok
[21:57] <Shakaz> the bootable USB isn't recognised when i set it to UEFI
[21:57] <Shakaz> only gets recognised when it's in legacy mode
[21:57] <Shakaz> so i'm wondering whether ubuntu will install in legacy and on GPT drive
[21:58] <Shakaz> or do I have unpartition all the drives on windows 8 (effectively remove windows 8) and hope to god that by converting it to MBR and using legacy it works?
[21:58] <daftykins> Shakaz: does this system have USB3 and USB2 ports? you're trying the 2 only yeah?
[21:58] <Shakaz> i'll call up my manufacturer later on tommorow
[21:58] <Shakaz> i've tried all the USB ports on the device.
[21:58] <daftykins> cold booting also?
[21:59] <Shakaz> cold booting? i havent heard of that before
[21:59] <daftykins> power up from off
[22:00] <daftykins> versus keeping a system on and say, trying repeatedly to boot with ctrl+alt+del
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> shakaz: pressing the power button to turn on the system is a cold boot. a warm boot is when you tell your OS to reboot the system
[22:01] <Shakaz> oh ok i've done that before.
[22:01] <Shakaz> yes i've done cold booting, it just won't recognise the usb device unless it's a legacy boot
[22:01] <Shakaz> and for some reason I have GPT drives
[22:02] <Shakaz> when on my other device from the same manufacturer (same HDD size) i have MBR drives
[22:02] <daftykins> Shakaz: did you say it was a Sony? they're real pains in the ass. have you checked for any 'BIOS' (BIOS/UEFI) updates?
[22:04] <Shakaz> it is.
[22:04] <mr-rich> Ubuntu 13.04 on System76 Gazelle. Launched FireFox a second screen via HDMI and tried to full screen a video ... it went full screen on my laptop, not the TV ... How do I tell FF or whatever to full screen on the TV?
[22:04] <Extreminador> guys i have mess with a option in compiz and now i can´t see any menu on desktop...
[22:04] <Shakaz> http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/SVF1421C5E/updates daftykins can you find one?
[22:04] <Extreminador> how can i move back ?
[22:04] <Shakaz> i certainly can't
[22:05] <Extreminador> forget i got it... i set up a terminal
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: does it do the same with all browsers?
[22:06] <daftykins> Shakaz: if you installed ubuntu in legacy mode beside, win8 i assume? you'd be able to use it but likely you'd have to go into the BIOS and switch UEFI boot off and on to switch OS each time
[22:06] <daftykins> i've seen people do that in here. heh.
[22:07] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: no ... Chrome will full screen to the TV, but the audio/video is not synced ...
[22:08] <Ca11um> How can I install Adobe Flash for FireFox on Ubuntu 13.04?
[22:08] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: on FF, the audio/video is synced ...
[22:08] <Extreminador> guys is there any command to make force compiz use the default options ?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: did firefox start on the tv?
[22:09] <_krambiorix> hi guys, how can i put more padding between the icons  in the top panel?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> extreminador: try renaming ~/.config/compiz and restart compiz
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> ca11um: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:11] <Extreminador> ActionParsnip will try
[22:11] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: I launced FF on the TV ...
[22:12] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: first, I closed it on the laptop screen and re-opened it on the TV screen ...
[22:12] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: twice
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: is the tv set as the primary display?
[22:12] <mr-rich> No
[22:13] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: no ... is that under display settings?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: not sure. worth a look
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: its a thing in windows. maybe ubuntu has similar. i dont use multimonitor in ubuntu. i have 1 screen for 4 systems
[22:14] <Ca11um> ActionParsnip, a GUI license agreement has appeared for ttf-mscorefonts-installer, but I cannot select <Ok>
[22:14] <Sach> Ubuntun 12.04 keeps freezing on me.  Can I identify the cause of this somehow by generating a report in the terminal??
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> ca11um: use tab and enter
[22:14] <Ca11um> Ah thanks
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> sach: test ram using memtest86 from grub
[22:15] <confusedfluffy> Hey, Ubuntu 13.04 can't find a network configuration at all, I've tried editing my network interfaces, removing the delay on finding it, but it still isn't working. Anyone had this problem?
[22:15] <_krambiorix> hi guys, how can i put more padding between the icons  in the top panel?
[22:15] <Galaxor> Hi.  After installing grub with grub-install, it still boots to windows 8 and doesn't go to grub.  Meanwhile, update-grub fails to detect windows 8.  This is all using efi (no secure boot enabled), and gpt.
[22:15] <Extreminador> ActionParsnip i think it not work.. but i am rebooting
[22:16] <Extreminador> yehh did not work :(
[22:16] <haseo_> hey everybody.
[22:16] <Extreminador> let me check if i can open the window of compiz
[22:17] <Andy397> Hi guys, Sorry to ask such a stupid question but I've just booted from an Ubuntu live CD and it's asking for a username and password. Looked it up and it says use "ubuntu" & "blank" but that doesn't work. Any ideas please?
[22:17] <Sach> ActionPArsnip: you mean "sudo chmod +x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+" from terminal?
[22:18] <confusedfluffy> Hey, Ubuntu 13.04 can't find a network configuration at all, I've tried editing my network interfaces, removing the delay on finding it, but it still isn't working. Anyone had this problem?
[22:18] <haseo_> i need help connecting to the internet with ubuntu. a wireless internet connection actually.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> sach: no. hold shift at boot and select memtest
[22:18] <haseo_> its not connecting at all. with windows xp it works
[22:19] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: I just put the tv on top of the laptop monitor in settings and that did what I wanted ... thanks ...
[22:19] <daftykins> haseo_: what wireless device do you have?
[22:19] <Extreminador> ActionParsnip removing compiz
[22:19] <haseo_> um im not sure.
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> andy397: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and run: passwd ubuntu
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> andy397: then press CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> extreminador: how will that help?
[22:20] <confusedfluffy> Hey, Ubuntu 13.04 can't find a network configuration at all, I've tried editing my network interfaces, removing the delay on finding it, but it still isn't working. Anyone had this problem?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: not bad for a guess
[22:21] <Extreminador> lol ActionParsnip it seems on nothing
[22:21] <haseo_> daftykins: im not sure. ill look it up.
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> extreminador: the configs are in $HOME and are not changed when you remove compiz. So removing and reinstalling compiz changes nothing
[22:22] <Andy397> ActionParsnip, Thanks mate. "Ctr+Alt+F1" = Row after row of "Authentication failure"? There is no cursor to input a pword.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> andy397: try hitting enter a few times, or ALT+CTRL+F2
[22:23] <Extreminador> yehh ActionParsnip now i know that
[22:23] <Extreminador> hehehe
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> extreminador: there will be guides all over. Or ask in #compiz
[22:24] <Andy397> ActionParsnip: All of them are the same except for the gui x
[22:24] <Extreminador> there is a compix channel nice
[22:24] <Extreminador> thanks
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> andy397: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloadedñ
[22:24] <jater> Is it normal I sleep with my eyes closed?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> jater: very
[22:25] <oiaw> is there a lightweight ubuntu version with the unity interface? thanks
[22:25] <Sach> ActionParsnip: http://picpaste.com/DSC02650-49fxRcD3.JPG
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> oiaw: if you run compiz as a standaline wm younwill get a light-ish OS
[22:25] <haseo_> daftykins: i found out what kind of wireless adapters i have
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> oiaw: standalone*
[22:25] <Fyodorovna> oiaw, not  from canonical
[22:25] <daftykins> haseo_: yeah?
[22:26] <Andy397> ActionParsnip: MD5 test? Sorry mate but what does that mean?
[22:26] <pacer> hi can someone can give me a working server for linknet please
[22:26] <pacer> not ssl
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | andy397
[22:27] <Andy397> ActionParsnip: I'll go check it out. Thanks again mate.
[22:27] <haseo_> daftykins: its 3 actually.i have a 1394 Net Adapter #6, Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx  Gigabit Controller #2, and a Dell wireless 1490 dual band Wlan Mini-card
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> sach397: let it run a while. if you get no errors then you can isolate ram issues as not the cause of the issue
[22:29] <daftykins> haseo_: does your wired connection work?
[22:29] <haseo_> daftykins: yes that works. but i prefer not to use it.
[22:30] <daftykins> haseo_: indeed, it's just the method by which to get internet access to fix your issue
[22:30] <daftykins> haseo_: run the commands in the second post here whilst connected with a network cable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139168/dell-1390-wireless-bcm4311-ubuntu-12-04-no-wireless-icon-in-unity
[22:31] <zykotick9> oiaw: unity and "lightweight" don't go together ;)
[22:32] <c4ifford> So help.ubuntu.com shows that in the wireless config tutorial that are /etc/init.d/wpa.sh files needed by wpa_supplicant which I have installed but those files are not there
[22:32] <haseo_> daftykins: i need to be running ubuntu right. for this? im running windows xp right now.
[22:34] <daftykins> haseo_: yep
[22:34] <confusedfluffy> Hey, Ubuntu 13.04 can't find a network configuration at all, I've tried editing my network interfaces, removing the delay on finding it, but it still isn't working. Anyone had this problem? Also, it is saying my eth0 is *-network disabled, how do I reenable it?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> confusedfluffy: does the interface have a driver module loaded for it?
[22:35] <haseo_> daftykins: oh ok. thank you ill see how it goes.
[22:36] <confusedfluffy> ActionParsnip: I don't know, how would I find out?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> confusedfluffy: sudo lshw -C network
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> confusedfluffy: if it doesnt have a driver loaded then its pointless setting IPs
[22:37] <pacer> anyone ?
[22:38] <confusedfluffy> ActionParsnip: According to this eth0 is loading and 'working' and then there is a eth1 which is disabled,they both have driver=r8169
[22:38] <c4ifford> So can anyone confirm or deny that there is an issue with mixmode WPA2-PSK encyrption, i've been fighting this issue all day to no avail
[22:39] <c4ifford> I'm running 12.04 stable and i've tried just about everything to get this adapter to work
[22:41] <daftykins> c4ifford: if it's WPA2 what do you mean by mixed mode?
[22:42] <c4ifford> daftykins: the PSK extention
[22:43] <c4ifford> daftykins: or just WPA2 in general, can't seem to get it working
[22:43] <daftykins> pre shared key conveys nothing of mixed modes
[22:43] <c4ifford> ok
[22:43] <confusedfluffy> ActionParsnip: Any ideas?
[22:44] <c4ifford> daftykins: I've tried to connect via network manager, and through wric , now going through trying to find the options to do it manually form the configs
[22:45] <daftykins> what settings are your router/AP using?
[22:45] <Clearcoat_Ben> installed Ubuntu 12.04, but OS selection screen not coming up when starting, goes straight to W7. If I hit F12 to select boot options it only lists the main disk which resorts to W7. Any ideas?
[22:45] <c4ifford> daftykins: wpa2-psk with AES
[22:46] <c4ifford> daftykins: I removed network manager trying to follow one of the guides that had stated that it was an issue with the way wpasupplicant sent the info
[22:47] <c4ifford> daftykins: it would see the AP, and attempt to connect and just time out every time
[22:48] <daftykins> i'm sure there are lots of people out there running wireless with that config
[22:48] <daftykins> if they understand security...
[22:49] <c4ifford> daftykins: agreed, and i've had every flavor of unix connected without any issue until now
[22:49] <zykotick9> c4ifford: my /etc/network/interfaces with WPA2 (nothing else) with static (if you want DHCP, just uncomment line 2 and comment lines 3-8 at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6056954/
[22:50] <c4ifford> zykotick9: and that's all I should need? the help guide I'm reading says something abou wpa_supplicant having config settings and some init scripts as well
[22:50] <zykotick9> c4ifford: you need wpasupplicant for that to work!
[22:51] <c4ifford> zykotick9: correct, it's installed
[22:51] <c4ifford> zykotick9: i haven't configured anythign though
[22:51] <zykotick9> c4ifford: i don't think you need to.  i don't do anything but install it, then use that interfaces file.
[22:52] <szymon_g> hi
[22:52] <c4ifford> zykotick9: Ok let me give this a whirl
[22:52] <szymon_g> how can i generate Xorg.conf file? X -configure (while xorg is off) doesn't seem to generate proper one
[22:53] <zykotick9> szymon_g: are you using nvidia?  why do you need one?
[22:53] <c4ifford> zykotick9: actually one quick thing, do I need to generate wpa_passphrase? or do I just take my PSK and stick it in?
[22:53] <Marlenee> i run my programme in background bt using at the end of the command "&" after i log out my session on my server i log in again and i see the programme is not running and its shutdown ??????
[22:53] <haseo_> im back.
[22:53] <hanran> Hi there  everyone :)
[22:54] <zykotick9> c4ifford: that depends on your wireless router/ap/etc - i don't know.
[22:54] <daftykins> Marlenee: sure because you logged out...
[22:54] <bekks> Marlenee: Thats intended. & puts a program in the background of the job queue of the running shell. No running shell anymore, no backgound process. If you want to put it into backgound and detach it from the shell, use nohup cmd &
[22:55] <hanran> Has anyone here ever used OCRfeeder?
[22:55] <Marlenee> daftykins : i need to run it in back ground even if i logout
[22:55] <haseo_> daftykins: im on ubuntu right now installing the things i needed. what do i do now?
[22:55] <bekks> Marlenee: Then use nohup cmd &
[22:55] <szymon_g> zykotick9, i'm using laptop with intel and nvidia graphics card. i wanna to use both of them with custom kernel
[22:56] <Marlenee> what is nohup cmd &   ???
[22:56] <bekks> Marlenee: a shell command to run cmd even if you close the connection.
[22:57] <daftykins> Marlenee: then either daemon-ise it, or run it with something like screen
[22:58] <Marlenee> i know how to do that in screen but i dont like to use it because screen make my server is very slow and take alot of memory
[22:58] <Marlenee> you can tell me how to daemon-ise it ??
[22:59] <bekks> Marlenee: screen uses just a few megabytes of RAM. I strongly suspect screen is causing your server to be slow.
[23:00] <Marlenee> just sec
[23:00] <justin__> when i try to install ubuntu i get the following errors: "error: failure reading sectore 0x4f500 from 'cd0'." and " 0.323258] Kernal panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) "
[23:00] <bekks> justin__: your installation cd is corrupted.
[23:00] <Marlenee> bekks : i will show you pic from htop when i use screen
[23:00] <justin__> the md5sum is good though, and its like the third CD i've tried
[23:01] <bekks> justin__: but the cd is broken - or the drive even.
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> justin__, how fast are you burning
[23:01] <justin__> as slow as i can 3x
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> justin__, No usb"?
[23:01] <justin__> when i burn a cd for chakra linux or fedora it works
[23:02] <justin__> wilee-nilee: I guess I'll try a usb
[23:02] <justin__> if you guys really think its the cd drive
[23:02] <Marlenee> !paste
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> justin__, I have had the md5 be right and still be messed up.
[23:02] <zykotick9> szymon_g: honestly, hybrid graphics is something i know basically nothing about...  i don't have the h/w.  best of luck.  FYI, i hope you've looked into bumblebee and it's alternatives.  for a regular nvidia xorg.conf, using "sudo nvidia-xconfig" should generate a valid one, but for hybrid - I HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT WORKS.  best of luck.
[23:03] <justin__> wilee-nilee: the iso be messed up?
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> justin__, Yes.
[23:03] <Marlenee> bekks : see this pic -  http://imagebin.org/269602
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> nsrare but it happem
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> rare*
[23:03] <justin__> wilee-nilee: so should I not use the same iso on a flash drive? and instead find somewhere else to download another iso?
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> justin__, I would change the iso to the torrent name and check it with a torrent app
[23:04] <bekks> Marlenee: So whats the output of "lsb_release -a; uname -a; screen -v"?
[23:04] <zykotick9> szymon_g: fyi, [don't worry about it!] but using nvidia-xconfig isn't the "greatest" thing in the world to use, there are some "bugs" with it.  but it has always WFM.
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> or just download it again it is hard to say what is going on, the one I had with a bad md5 was finew same download same place on another justin__
[23:05] <justin__> wilee-nilee: i downloaded it with a torrent
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> justin__, Hard to say it just is not working, there may be know known actual answer, things happen.
[23:06] <szymon_g> zykotick9, thanx :/. I was also going to include the better settings for touchpad
[23:07] <justin__> wilee-nilee: i guess i was just wondering if there was something wrong with my partitions or grub or bios or something that was messing it up
[23:07] <justin__> wilee-nilee: I'll try a flash drive :/ I hope it works
[23:08] <Marlenee> bekks : here is  -  see this pic -  http://imagebin.org/269602
[23:08] <Marlenee> bekks : sorry this one     -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6056997/
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> justin__, Where did you get the torrent link?
[23:09] <bekks> Marlenee: Thats a virtual private server, isnt it?
[23:09] <zykotick9> szymon_g: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory?  if so, i might be able to put the two separate (1 nvidia, 1 touchpad) in there somehow, and that would be the "closest" to right answer that i'm aware of... but best of luck, hopefully you'll figure it all out.
[23:09] <Marlenee> bekks : yes
[23:09] <zykotick9> s/i might/you might/,
[23:10] <justin__> wilee-nilee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu the official website
[23:10] <szymon_g> zykotick9, no directory like that :<
[23:10] <bekks> Marlenee: so how much RAM (according to htop) is the process inside screen using?
[23:11] <zykotick9> szymon_g: ummmm... well, i got nothing further to suggest.  best of luck!
[23:11] <Marlenee> bekks : 2816 MB RAM
[23:11] <szymon_g> ah, i've got it. /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics
[23:11] <szymon_g> :)
[23:11] <zykotick9> nice
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> justin__, You could try a mini download and do a net install as well.
[23:12] <bekks> Marlenee: So you have another problem rather than screen using your memory - its the application you are running.
[23:13] <szymon_g> indeed :)
[23:13] <Marlenee> bekks : i show you that when i just start the screen and i dont run in thing inside it  thats why i dont like to use screen !!
[23:13] <zykotick9> szymon_g: for nvidia you might be able to use something like this: echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
[23:15] <chalcedony> i have a ubuntu computer 13.04 that won't let me ssh into it, i can ssh out. i want to wrk on it remotely?
[23:15] <Trel> are there any editions of ubuntu that do not require PAE?
[23:16] <zykotick9> Trel: (i could be wrong) but i don't think so.  i believe debian still has a non-PAE option.
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> Trel, You can use the mini on any.
[23:17] <zykotick9> Trel: or is there a way to disable PAE on ubuntu somehow?
[23:17] <hanran> l
[23:17] <hanran> Sorry
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> Trel, The pae's are on the downloads is all, the mini is a net install will work.
[23:19] <snake_> hello. Brasero has this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549272 too. and I was wondering if there was a program that could do what this bug report describes.
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> snake_, What OS are you running?
[23:20] <snake_> wilee-nilee, Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit.
[23:20] <bekks> snake_: So which version of brasero do you use on which Ubuntu version?
[23:20] <Marlenee> bekks :  how to daemon-ise applicaton instead of using screen command ???
[23:20] <bekks> Marlenee: nohup cmd &
[23:21] <snake_> bekks brasero 3.4.1
[23:23] <Marlenee> bekks :  man page "nohup" provide no option just the command
[23:23] <Trel> wilee-nilee: this is for an older laptop, I can't use wired for the net install.
[23:24] <bekks> Marlenee: it needs no option. Just replace "cmd" with your command you want to run.
[23:24] <Marlenee> how i bring it to foreground to see the application work and result and bing it back to background
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> snake_, THe only thing I notice is how old that bug report is and the OS it mentions is not even supported, nor ubuntu, file a bug with ubuntu on your problem.
[23:24] <zykotick9> bekks: does nohup and & on the same command make sence?
[23:25] <snake_> wilee-nilee, I'm currently having this issue, and I need to know if there is a way to fix it or if there is another program that will do this.
[23:25] <Marlenee> bekks : ?
[23:25] <bekks> Marlenee: Thats not possible. You cannot see any output, unless you make your command log everything. Or you just "tail -f nohup.out"
[23:25] <bekks> Marlenee: At least gimme the time to answer...
[23:25] <bekks> zykotick9: Sure, it sends nohup to the background :)
[23:26] <zykotick9> Marlenee: <i don't see you> but you might want to check out screen or tmux, for keeping things running in the background - that you can re-open/interact with.
[23:26] <Marlenee> check that -    nohup cmd > output.txt &
[23:26] <Trel> So there's no way to install it on this laptop it doesn't look like.  Only thing I could find was lubuntu and xbuntu in version 12 were non-pae, but now they're not anymore.
[23:26] <Marlenee> bekks : ^^
[23:26] <bekks> Marlenee: Nope.
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Trel, The mini will instal, do a net install.
[23:26] <bekks> Marlenee: nohup produces the nohup.out logfile without any further options.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> Trel, I don't believe you have to have pae kernels on any release.
[23:27] <Marlenee> bekks : if i perform it like that -    nohup cmd > output.txt &   so it willnot work
[23:28] <bekks> Marlenee: Correct. And it is not needed. nohup produces the nohup.out logfile.
[23:28] <Marlenee> bekks : nohup just use one file to save the log !
[23:28] <Trel> wilee-nilee: how then would I install them....I couldn't even use the non-live install option from lubuntu.  Wired install is not an option.
[23:29] <bekks> Marlenee: I know. nohup produces the nohup.out logfile...
[23:29] <Marlenee> bekks : what if i want to run 3 command using no hup and save the output it may be miss with output ???
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> Trel, The mini install, which by the way if you ndaon;t know what that is say so.
[23:29] <bekks> Marlenee: Then you have to run three nohup cmd & instances. And please dont abuse your ., ! and ? keys.
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> don't*
[23:29] <Marlenee> bekks : its just one file in nohup.out
[23:30] <snake_> wilee-nilee, nevermind that last message. I do not need to fix the bug in brasero. is there another application that you might recommend that can burn a lot of data onto multiple discs
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> Trel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:31] <Marlenee> bekks : if i run it 3 time instance the output is still in same one output file no 3 output file
[23:31] <Trel> wilee-nilee: Wired install is not an option.
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> Trel, Then you are stuck.
[23:33] <bekks> Marlenee: Then run your three nohups from three different directories.
[23:34] <altaco>  /msg NickServ identify jpg571
[23:34] <snake_> wilee-nilee, I am asking in #opensource :) they might have a recommendation :P
[23:36] <socrates_johnson> hello, I would like to install ubuntu from a usb in legacy/bios mode, but I can only boot the usb as uefi. Any suggestions?
[23:36] <daftykins> socrates_johnson: most BIOS/UEFI setups list boot devices twice, once for legacy and once for UEFI. do you not see this behaviour?
[23:37] <MrObvious> Question. My work uses EAP-FAST. I can't seem to get it working with Network Manager.
[23:37] <MrObvious> But I can configure it manually with just wpa_supplicant.
[23:37] <MrObvious> I have the entries ssid, key_mgmt=WPA_EAP, eap=FAST, identity="username", password="password", phase1="fast_provisioning=3" and pac_file="/tmp/wpa_supplicant.pac".
[23:37] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: if I use a cd/dvd I see two listings, but booting from usb only results in one listing
[23:37] <MrObvious> How would I configure it on 13.04?
[23:37] <daftykins> socrates_johnson: interesting, could be worth writing a CD/DVD
[23:38] <MrObvious> http://askubuntu.com/questions/179435/problem-connecting-to-eap-fast-wireless It's similar to this.
[23:38] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: I can do that, but, longer-term, I was planning to replace the disk drive with an ssd so I was just wondering how that would go in the future
[23:39] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: do "most people" just have gpt disks and do uefi installs now?
[23:39] <daftykins> socrates_johnson: it's becoming the forced-norm due to the way laptops coming with Windows 8 are going, yeah
[23:40] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: okay, thanks. can you still just do partitioning with gparted, etc.? i've just avoided the gpt/uefi things until now
[23:41] <daftykins> socrates_johnson: i'm not sure that gparted can handle GPT stuff
[23:41] <snake_> wilee-nilee, I'm going to try imgburn
[23:41] <snake_> I used this site to find some alts but they need to support multiple disks http://alternativeto.net/software/brasero/?platform=linux&license=free
[23:43] <reveldevel> any way to access logs of this channel from 13:19 today? ...to avoid asking question again; was disconnected before i got a response...
[23:44] <reveldevel> or can copy/paste...
[23:44] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: okay interesting, is there an equivalent graphical tool you would recommend?
[23:45] <chalcedony> i have a ubuntu computer 13.04 that won't let me ssh into it, i can ssh out. i want to wrk on it remotely?
[23:46] <chalcedony> can someone help please?
[23:46] <daftykins> socrates_johnson: i've no further experience i'm afraid, i might even be remembering wrong - might be worth looking up gparted and GPT support online
[23:46] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: okay, i'll look into it further. thank you for your input!
[23:46] <daftykins> np :)
[23:47] <zykotick9> socrates_johnson: ahhh, just to be clear, gpt and uefi are separate things!  i use gpt (for 3TB+ support), but i don't have any uefi hardware...
[23:48] <haseo_> hello.
[23:49] <haseo_> i tried connecting to my wireless internet connection and it doesnt work. ive already installed the drivers and also did the terminal command.
[23:50] <daftykins> haseo_: hello again, how did it go?
[23:51] <haseo_> daftykins: not working -.-
[23:51] <haseo_> still.
[23:52] <daftykins> haseo_: you were able to run those commands ok?
[23:53] <reveldevel> need help resetting login key ring password to match new (reset from admin) user account password
[23:53] <haseo_> daftykins:  yes the commands ran without any problems.
[23:54] <daftykins> haseo_: nothing appeared on the network manager icon at all to show wireless was there?
[23:54] <reveldevel> yesterday i reset my user account password from admin account, due to being locked out. while i have regained access to the user account at large, i have not regained access to the password file and some sudo actions.
[23:54] <reveldevel> any help is appreciated
[23:55] <zykotick9> reveldevel: if you run "groups" in a terminal, does it show sudo?
[23:55] <socrates_johnson> zykotick9: thank you, i admittedly don't entirely understand all of the details. i have uefi hardware, but i've been installing things in legacy mode until now
[23:56] <zykotick9> socrates_johnson: i just wanted you to be aware that gpt has nothing to do, with the uefi stuff (which i know nothing about).  ;)
[23:56] <haseo_> daftykins: what kind of icon? right now i see two arows going in oposite directions cause im using a wired internet connection
[23:56] <daftykins> haseo_: yep left clicking on that, do you see a tick beside 'wireless' ?
[23:58] <socrates_johnson> zykotick9: i appreciate that. i've been trying to make my default gpt (with uefi) windows laptop behave like the mbr (with legacy bios) systems i'm more comfortable with, but next time i reformat i guess i'll "modernize" or whatever
[23:59] <zykotick9> socrates_johnson: gpt replace MSDOS partition type, which has 2 cool benefits: 1) support for large disks 3TB+ stuff & 2) no 4 primary partition limit, just nice sda sdb sdc sdd sde etc. ;)
[23:59] <haseo_> daftykins: it doesnt say wireless at all. it just says wired connection 1, disconnect, VPN connections, enable networking ( with a check next to it.) connection info and edit connections.
[23:59] <MrObvious> Any EAP folks here?