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skaetRiddell, ScottK - images for Kubuntu are now up on the beta 1 tracker.   http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/302/builds.   00:35
skaethmm... just notice the back scroll,   sorry for the chatter.00:35
skaetOn a separate but related noted,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta1/Kubuntu is available for your input now.00:36
=== emma is now known as em
Riddellsweet, we made slashdot :)07:40
lordievaderWhoo, nice :D07:41
Riddella random e-mailer points out a launchpad milestone I had failed to notice "WTG on breaking the 100k karma point barrier dude."  my day just gets better and better07:48
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.1 saucy/ninjas 4.11.0 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/ninjas| 13.10 Alpha 2 and 12.04.3 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support | 13.10 Beta 1 to be released on Thurs
smartboyhwHmm, the topic is TOO long08:08
=== yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.1 saucy/ninjas 4.11.0 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/ninjas | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support | 13.10 Beta 1 to be released on Thurs
yofelremoved Alpha2 and 12.04.3 notes08:17
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.1 saucy/ninjas 4.11.0 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/ninjas | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support | 13.10 Beta 1 to be released on Thurs, please test
smartboyhw!testers | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/302/builds08:18
lordievadersmartboyhw: I'm already on it, testing amd6408:23
smartboyhwlordievader, good08:24
Crumble__hello all!  I apologize if I am not allowed to be here... but i need some help.  It is in regards to a linux mce install.  and a very strange df -h output. any help is appreciated.08:48
lordievaderCrumble__: User support for Kubuntu is in #kubuntu.08:57
Crumble__thankyou lordievader  :)  have a good one08:57
lordievaderOem install still has problems... 08:57
soeetest 13.10 beta 1 ?09:04
smartboyhwRiddell, you want to enable the upgrade tests or not?09:04
soeeim running saucy at home, except i have 2 NM widgets all is fine :)09:04
smartboyhwsoee, we mean fresh install09:04
smartboyhwlordievader, ouch 09:04
smartboyhwWhat problems?09:04
smartboyhw(We won't be respinning for OEM install problems I think BTW)09:05
soeesmartboyhw, ok ill test in on VM at gome09:05
soee*home09:05
smartboyhwsoee, great.09:05
smartboyhwDo the i386 might be good, since lordievader is doing amd6409:05
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1206371] kwin is not starting: cannot find libwayland-egl.so.1 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206371 (by Chupligin Sergey)09:06
soeecan i do i386 on VM running in amd64 ?09:07
smartboyhwsoee, yes09:07
smartboyhwNot the opposite though:P09:07
soeeok so np09:07
Riddellsigh, ubiquity broken on arm bug 122013909:21
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 1220139 could not be found09:21
Riddellsmartboyhw: yeah we should test upgrades09:22
smartboyhwRiddell, please add the testcases yourself:P09:22
RiddellScottK: re bug 1220139 there's no known problem with pyqt/sip is there? I thought it was only pykde that had an issue09:25
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 1220139 could not be found09:25
Riddelleverything else pyqt worked09:25
Riddellbug 122013909:25
Riddellhumph, well I made it public now09:25
smartboyhwBug 122013909:26
ubottubug 1220139 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kubuntu ubiquity crashed with SIGSEGV on arm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122013909:26
lordievadersmartboyhw: They are minor, #1154535, #120452409:34
smartboyhwBug 115453509:34
ubottubug 1154535 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Back and Continue buttons present in Oem-config" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115453509:34
smartboyhwBug 120452409:34
ubottubug 1204524 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem temporary user not removed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120452409:34
smartboyhwlordievader, OK09:35
lordievadererr that ^09:35
mck182_how the heck is it possible that regular package updates remove kde-window-manager package?10:14
smartboyhwmck182_, -.-10:15
smartboyhwWhat packages are you updating?10:15
mck182_just got returned a laptop with "unable to move windows"...apparently the user just installed offered updates to kde 4.1110:15
mck182_somehow that removed kwin10:16
mck182_that should just never ever happen :S10:16
debfxa bit hard to tell without sources.list{,d/*} and apt logs10:20
Riddellmck182_: the only thing I can think of that might cause that is if they have an obscure kwin theme installed which is incompatible with 4.11, we did recompile all the ones we could which are in the archive, but you're right it's not a good experience11:07
Riddellthanks for your testing lordievader 11:07
lordievaderNo problem, Riddell :)11:07
yofelmck182_, Riddell: another thing is a weird issue I've seen with the mesa backports in precise. E.g. if you have the quantal backports installed and kde 4.10  then the upgrade to 4.11 can in some circumstances kill kde-window-manager.11:20
yofelthe dependency resolver is rather strange when it comes to alternate deps and deciding what to install11:20
mck182_yofel: that might be what happened11:20
Riddellagateau: meh wireless ubiquity module causes crash when in ubiquity only mode bug 122019311:20
ubottubug 1220193 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity kde frontend crash setting up wireless when ubiquity only" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122019311:20
Riddelllordievader: did you try oem?11:37
RiddellI just did it and keeps the oem user but also keeps auto login as owm user which is just confusing11:38
Riddellah I already commented as much on bug 120452411:45
ubottubug 1204524 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem temporary user not removed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120452411:45
Riddellyuck rekonq is crashy :(11:48
Riddellbug 121969511:50
ubottubug 1219695 in qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Qt 5.1.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121969511:50
Riddelldo we (release team) let it in?11:51
Riddellagateau: another issue I think I found on wireless bug 1220212 probably easy to fix this one11:55
ubottubug 1220212 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "download update disabled when wireless setup still possible" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122021211:55
xnoxRiddell: that's chicken & egg problem, the solution is to move wireless step before "prepare" screen, that hasn't been done in the gtk_ui yet.11:56
Riddellxnox: aah good to know we're not alone :)11:57
lordievaderRiddell: Jup got exactly the same on the oem test.12:01
BluesKajHowdy folks12:03
Riddellhi BluesKaj, able to do any beta testing?12:04
xnoxRiddell: where is qt.conf on Ubuntu ?12:04
BluesKajRiddell:  maybe , what's up ?12:05
Riddellxnox: I have a ~/.config/Trolltech.conf12:05
Riddellxnox: I'd guess qt.conf is the qt5 equivalent but I'm not sure12:05
RiddellBluesKaj: beta 1 candidates need testing12:05
Riddellhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/302/builds12:06
xnoxRiddell: ":/qt/etc/qt.conf using the resource system"12:06
xnoxwhat's the resource system on linux ?! =)12:06
xnoxRiddell: i've straced it to find out =)12:08
BluesKajRiddell: I'm running kubuntu13.10 , and currently I'm fooling with ubuntu/unity ... I'll switch over and dist-upgrade 12:08
BluesKajRiddell:  or are you looking for ppl to install the beta image ?12:09
RiddellBluesKaj: yes install the candidate images or upgrade from raring12:11
Riddellxnox: I'd guess it's the file system :)12:12
BluesKajI haave kubuntu 13.10 and ubuntu 13.10 on separate partitions already, Riddell12:12
BluesKajok will try the new beta image 12:13
RiddellBluesKaj: a reinstall doesn't hurt :)12:13
BluesKajRiddell:  np , I'll install the image to /12:16
MirvI wonder if yofel or someone would be interested in merging latest pkg-kde-tools changes (well, one commit + version number bump) from Debian, or shall I do that? it'd be needed so that qtscript-opensource-src could be synced directly from Debian instead of patching the build dependency12:37
yofeldon't count on me until next week, but go ahead if you want to do it12:37
RiddellMirv: I can look at it, is it in the FFe?12:38
Mirvok, I can do/prepare that if no-one else does, just a heads-up. it was added to the Qt 5.1.1 FFe bug #121969512:38
ubottubug 1219695 in qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Qt 5.1.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121969512:38
MirvRiddell: now it is yes, as Scott asked for it12:38
MirvRiddell: thanks. although it can't be uploaded before the FFe is formally accepted, but it'd be nice to have that ready.12:39
RiddellMirv: well I can accept that too since you did ask nicely12:39
MirvRiddell: heh, that's fine as well12:41
RiddellMirv: voila13:08
Mirv\o/13:08
RiddellMirv: some new source packages in there?13:08
MirvRiddell: yes, four, they haven't been addressed separately in the text. adding a comment about those.13:13
* Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/09/03/kubuntu-commercial-support13:59
smartboyhwRiddell, \o/14:02
smartboyhwRiddell, BTW I do suppose you know that you are the only active blogger on KDE Blogs that submits blog posts more than 3 times a month? :P14:04
RiddellI do feel a little guilty that kde sysadmins maintains it mostly for my benefit14:06
smartboyhwRiddell, if you make your own blog, then I'm going to file a sysadmin ticket to shut it down\o/14:06
BluesKajRiddell:  got some errors on boot after the install seemed to work ok . After the error appears , there's no KB response at the shell prompt.Here's the error list: http://pastebin.com/6feJgQKJ14:09
BluesKajI tried to install twice ..guess I'll have to install 13.04 again and release upgrade 14:10
RiddellBluesKaj: um yeah something very broken there14:11
BluesKajok , later14:11
Riddellhmm, upgrades on virtual machines are slow,I wonder if it's worth the effort compared to just bare metal14:44
BluesKajok, Riddell , solved the error and uuid recognition problemn with the beta1 install , I merely open an older kernel and rebooted , then the new install booted properly 15:25
Riddellum hmm that's not an ideal issue15:28
RiddellBluesKaj: do you think you have any hardware which the default kernel wouldn't like?15:28
BluesKajRiddell, Idid have a previous problem with Ubiquity hanging and unable to move any further on Kubuntu 12.10 iirc ,and 13.04 . Also 13.10 alpha daily would do the same . I suspected HW recognition problems , but I could never track it down exactly15:31
BluesKajthis has been the first successful clean install from a live-cd since 12.04 due to the troubles above15:33
Riddellfor some definition of successful15:34
BluesKajanyway Riddell , I'm happy it worked out 15:34
BluesKajubuntu 13.10 installs ok tho , i have it on a separate partition15:35
RiddellBluesKaj: do you have a uefi laptop?15:36
BluesKajno I'm running an older HP desktop15:36
BluesKajwith a couple of media pci cards in it15:37
Arhihello16:34
ArhiCan I ask a question? Becouse i have problem with install16:37
Arhihuh...16:40
shadeslayerArhi: #kubuntu for support17:08
shadeslayer!find /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpython2.7.so raring18:17
ubottuFile /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpython2.7.so found in libpython2.7, libpython2.7-dev, python2.7-dbg18:17
shadeslayeryofel: [  4%] make[4]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpython2.7.so', needed by `lib/libcompoundviewer.so.4.11.1'.  Stop.18:19
* yofel runs18:20
shadeslayeryofel: thoughts on explicitly adding libpython2.7-dev to kalzium build deps?18:20
yofeldo that if it helps18:20
shadeslayerwon't it help?18:20
shadeslayerwhy did amd64 build though18:20
yofelif that's the file it's looking for, it will18:20
yofeland the correct location18:20
shadeslayerwhy does amd64 pull in libpython2.7-dev18:21
shadeslayer:/18:21
shadeslayeryofel: we don't have a ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ninjas right?18:28
yofelwe don't18:29
shadeslayerokay cool18:29
shadeslayerI uploaded to ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ninjas and didn't get a rejection email so far18:29
shadeslayercan someone atleast QA Saucy so that we can upload it?18:40
shadeslayer*QA KDE 4.11.118:41
soeewhen Raring possible?18:44
shadeslayersoonish18:44
shadeslayer!find /usr/lib/libboost_python.so raring18:45
ubottuPackage/file /usr/lib/libboost_python.so does not exist in raring18:45
shadeslayerwhut18:45
shadeslayer!find libboost_python.so raring18:46
ubottuPackage/file libboost_python.so does not exist in raring18:46
shadeslayero_o18:46
tsimpson!find libboost_python-py27.so18:46
ubottuFile libboost_python-py27.so found in libboost-python1.49-dev, libboost-python1.49.0, libboost-python1.53-dev, libboost-python1.53.0, libboost1.49-dbg18:46
shadeslayerahh18:47
* shadeslayer is compiling a patched kernel to fix his cable problems19:29
* yofel wonders why everyone has kernel issues today19:29
shadeslayernot exactly19:32
shadeslayerI've been told that the cable might not be terminating the load correctly on one pin19:32
shadeslayerso I patched the kernel so that my mini DP always outputs TMDS mode19:32
yofeluh huh...19:32
yofelwell, I guess that's better than me removing kernels to not hit the panics caused by bug 122028419:33
ubottubug 1216745 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1220284 No network connection" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121674519:33
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/36763/13782233/raw/19:33
shadeslayerouch19:33
shadeslayerofcourse, this patch doesn't really solve the problem, and I'll still have to get a replacement cable19:34
shadeslayerexcept now it's financially unfeasible to go to the place I got this cable from :P19:34
yofelheh19:34
shadeslayercable cost me 2 EUR, cost of travel + time spent > 2 EUR19:35
shadeslayerso I'll just buy another one from a nearby vendor for a bit more cost19:35
shadeslayerhmm19:38
shadeslayeryofel: what do you recommend for kalzium19:38
shadeslayeradding those 2 python deps fixed it19:38
yofelwell, for the backports just hack that into the hook IMO19:39
yofelor you'll have to backport avogadro19:39
shadeslayerI see19:39
shadeslayerkorundum exhibits similar symptoms19:39
shadeslayernepomuk-core-dev isn't pulled in19:39
yofelI think there it's kdepimlibs assuming nepomuk exists19:40
shadeslayernope19:40
shadeslayer-- Skip KorundumModules bindings: Kate;Nepomuk19:40
yofelthough I wonder why it would work in saucy19:40
shadeslayerand nepomuk-core-dev is pulled in in saucy19:40
yofelSetting up nepomuk-core-dev (4:4.11.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1) ...19:41
shadeslayeryofel: can you take up korundum? I don't want to look at packaging right now19:41
yofelin raring too o.O19:41
shadeslayeroh19:41
yofelheh19:42
yofeloh lol19:42
yofel-- Could NOT find Nepomuk (missing:  SHAREDDESKTOPONTOLOGIES_FOUND) 19:42
shadeslayerpft19:42
* shadeslayer goes about fixing his Qt patch19:42
yofelwait a second: shouldn't nepomuk kinda depend on sdo o.O?19:43
yofelhm, kde-runtime depends on it19:45
yofelI'll add it to nepomuk-core-dev depends anyway 19:45
Riddellhttp://www.eweek.com/developer/kubuntu-linux-emerges-from-ubuntus-shadow.html/21:40
ronnocnice article, Riddell :)23:01

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