[01:11] <sherry> how to install rpm-build and rpmdevtool
[01:12] <sherry> rpm packages are installed already > 
[01:12] <sherry> sherry@sherry-TECRA-R840:~$ dpkg-query -l rpm
[01:12] <sherry> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[01:12] <sherry> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[01:12] <sherry> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[01:12] <FloodBotK1> sherry: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:12] <sherry> ||/ Name           Version      Architecture Description
[01:18] <sherry> how to install rpm-build and rpmdevtools?
[01:40] <sherry> how to install rpm-build and rpmdevtools?
[01:43] <JMichaelX> audio in linux just continues to suck
[01:46] <JMichaelX> is there a known problem in 13.04, with the network manager not remembering wifi passowrds?
[09:00] <Crumble__> hello all!  need some help with a new LinuxMCE install.  I got a really strange df -h.  anyone who could explain to me what is going on would really help me.  it is so weird!
[09:01] <Crumble__> kubuntu 1204 btw
[09:06] <Crumble__> here is a http://paste.ubuntu.com/6058084/
[09:06] <Crumble__> blaargh i so dont get it
[09:16] <RamchandraApte> Crumble__: doesn't look strange to me?
[09:17] <Crumble__> RamchandraApte: not even the disk by uuid?
[09:18] <RamchandraApte> Crumble__: hmm.. somehow it has repeated the disk twice
[09:18] <RamchandraApte> are you using linuxmce or kubuntu??
[09:18] <RamchandraApte> oh, nvm, i thought linuxmce was a distro
[09:19] <Crumble__> that is what i thought!  linuxmce is layed over top kubuntu
[09:19] <Crumble__> so both
[09:20] <Crumble__> this a new install of lmce... kubuntu 1204 and linuxmce
[09:20] <Crumble__> usually it is a distro by itself.  i am testing this version out and the devel team is away at the moment.  but i am trying to figure this issue out.  
[09:21] <Crumble__> since 1204 is new to me i thought i would ask the kubuntu users how and why this would happen
[09:23] <Crumble__> RamchandraApte: I can not think of any reason why this partition layout would even work... everything should be broken.  well it kinda is but i can boot into it and most of it works.  can not mount anything though.
[09:37] <lordievader> Crumble__: Could you paste bin the output of "mount"?
[09:38] <Crumble__> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6058309
[09:39] <Crumble__> lordievader: LOL!  i did not even look at that... what a mess.  any ideas how to fix?
[09:41] <lordievader> Reading this thread points me to mounting with uuid by grub, is this the case? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=99417
[09:41] <lordievader> Also could you pastebin your fstab
[09:43] <Crumble__> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6058319
[09:43] <lordievader> The fstab looks normal.
[09:46] <Crumble__> lordievader: i can not mount anything
[09:49] <lordievader> Crumble__: What error do you get?
[09:50] <Crumble__> lordievader: that is the odd thing.  I can not find the devices anywhere.  they say they are under /dev for a few seconds then disappear
[09:51] <lordievader> Crumble__: Lets tackle one problem at a time, can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg file?
[09:52] <Crumble__> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6058336
[09:54] <lordievader> Well my entries are similair.
[09:54] <Crumble__> yeah looks normal to me too
[09:54] <Crumble__> but mount was wonky 
[09:55] <lordievader> Crumble__: Ah, see this answer: http://serverfault.com/questions/275988/what-is-rootfs
[09:56] <lordievader> So there is probably no harm.
[09:56] <lordievader> Now the mount problem, what error do you get?
[10:00] <Crumble__> not authorized
[10:01] <lordievader> Crumble__: What is the exact command you use?
[10:02] <Crumble__> well that is kind of the problem.  i look to dolphin to help me figure this out since i can not see the devices.  dolphin says not authorized
[10:02] <Crumble__> they show up with a line through them.  i went to removable devices and said to mount automatically but does not help
[10:03] <Crumble__> with music cd's it will show up with cda:///dev/sdr0/01 through 11 for every track on the cd but not able to play
[10:05] <lordievader> Crumble__: How many accounts do you have on your system?
[10:05] <Crumble__> two root and mine
[10:06] <lordievader> Is your user part of the group plugdev?
[10:06] <Crumble__> I am not sure how do figure that out?
[10:06] <lordievader> Crumble__: cat /etc/group
[10:07] <lordievader> Crumble__: cat /etc/group|grep <username>
[10:07] <tsimpson> you can just type "groups"
[10:07] <tsimpson> or even "grep $USER /etc/group" ;)
[10:07] <lordievader> Ah that is better :)
[10:07] <Crumble__> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6058387
[10:08] <lordievader> Crumble__: What is your username?
[10:09] <Crumble__> justin
[10:10] <lordievader> The pluto_justin one?
[10:10] <Crumble__> not sure.  
[10:11] <lordievader> Crumble__: As tsimpson says it is easier to just take the output of "groups"
[10:12] <Crumble__> so cat /etc/group | groups ?
[10:13] <lordievader> Crumble__: No "groups" is the whole command ;)
[10:13] <Crumble__> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6058400
[10:14] <Crumble__> what the?  that does not make sense
[10:14] <lordievader> Crumble__: Did you run it with sudo or are you logged in as root?
[10:14] <Crumble__> logged in as root
[10:15] <lordievader> Crumble__: That is not advised, root has way to much power for daily use.
[10:16] <Crumble__> ok let me do it under my username
[10:16] <Crumble__> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6058418
[10:17] <lordievader> Crumble__: That looks better, were you running dolphin under the root account?
[10:17] <Crumble__> no my account
[10:18] <lordievader> Crumble__: Do you know what you want to mount (ex. /dev/sdb1)?
[10:20] <Crumble__> no not really, i cant find the media anywhere
[10:21] <lordievader> Crumble__: Is it a usb stick, harddrive?
[10:21] <Crumble__> music cd
[10:22] <lordievader> Crumble__: Music cd's are a bit of an exception on that, can you play it with amarok?
[10:22] <Crumble__> lmce is a bit different.  kde desktop can not grab the soundcard since lmce has it
[10:23] <Crumble__> but yes, amarok sees the cd.  but kde does not allow dvd's to mount
[10:24] <Crumble__> or usb drives
[10:25] <lordievader> Crumble__: Is that part of lmce to change how those things work?
[10:26] <Crumble__> kind of.  really just what will use them ie programs and such.  i should still see them and be able to mount
[10:26] <Crumble__> which i do see them.  but can't mount
[10:26] <Crumble__> well i dolphin
[10:26] <Crumble__> in
[10:29] <lordievader> Hmm, Dolphin complains about not being authorized. Thus a logical conclusion is a rights issue. To me it seems that you are in all the right groups so I'm not sure what rights dolphin is missing.
[10:35] <Crumble__> i think the answer is in the mount devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)  620?
[10:37] <lordievader> Crumble__: Perhaps, I really don't know, my ideas are gone I'm afraid :(
[10:39] <Crumble__> lordievader: thanks for all your help!  I will let you know if i ever figure... well when i figure this out.  lol wonkyness
[10:40] <lordievader> I'd like that, good luck!
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:46] <bufalo1973> hello
[12:46] <lordievader> Hey bufalo1973 
[12:47] <bufalo1973> I have a problem: I want to use 2 monitors (VGA+HDMI) with 2 mice and 2 KB with the same computer for 2 different sessions (mine and my girl's)
[12:47] <bufalo1973> anybody knows some document that explains it
[12:48] <bufalo1973> I've already tried 3 or 4 different ways but...
[12:48] <bufalo1973> oh, and hello, lordievader :)
[12:49] <bufalo1973> (is it me or there's not much activity in this channel?)
[12:50] <lordievader> There usually isn't a whole lot of activity no.
[12:50] <bufalo1973> a shame
[12:51] <lordievader> bufalo1973: I have never done such a setup but maybe this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[12:51] <bufalo1973> I've already looked it but donesn't work (or I don't understand it)
[12:52] <bufalo1973> donesn't -> doesn't
[12:53] <lordievader> Where does it go wrong?
[12:55] <bufalo1973> I try the multifile aproach but it keeps starting the same user in both monitors
[12:58] <lordievader> bufalo1973: Have you used the examples or did you write your own?
[12:58] <bufalo1973> I used the examples... kind of
[12:58] <bufalo1973> those are for nvidia and I have ATI
[12:59] <lordievader> Did you make any other edits?
[13:01] <lordievader> Is it still a dualhead setup?
[13:01] <bufalo1973> dualhead works fantastic
[13:01] <bufalo1973> I can see a movie in a monitor and browse in the other
[13:02] <lordievader> bufalo1973: But are they two seperate sessions with their own task bar and all?
[13:02] <bufalo1973> no
[13:02] <bufalo1973> same session
[13:02] <bufalo1973> although different taskbars
[13:03] <bufalo1973> I can go with the mouse from one monitor to the other
[13:03] <bufalo1973> and both show my user in the K menu
[13:03] <bufalo1973> (using Kubuntu)
[13:03] <RamchandraApte> go to size & orientation, there drag one of the monitors to place them (for two seperate sessions in each screen)
[13:05] <lordievader> bufalo1973: Did you change the lightdm setup?
[13:05] <bufalo1973> at first, yes
[13:06] <bufalo1973> then I've installed gdm to try "bicefalo" (a program that is supossed to do the trick but doesn't work)
[13:07] <lordievader> Do you get a lighdm per screen? (As I said never done such a thing but this is what I find logical)
[13:12] <bufalo1973> no, the same shows in both screens
[13:13] <lordievader> That could be, but if you login to one does the other follow?
[13:13] <bufalo1973> yes, it's the same login screen in both screens
[13:13] <bufalo1973> if I enter a user in one the other does the same
[13:17] <bufalo1973> I'll try it again from the start
[13:17] <bufalo1973> thx for your interest lordievader :)
[13:18] <lordievader> Good luck, it is probably a fun setup (once you get it working).
[14:08] <LachNed> hallo... wie kann ich herausfinden, welche schriftart eine website verwendet? seitdem ich wine installiert habe, habe ich das gefühl, dass einige seiten jetzt mit einer anderen, besser lesbaren, schriftart angezeigt werden. kann das an den schriftarten liegen, die bei der installation von wine mit installiert werden?
[14:09] <RamchandraApte> LachNed: it's preferable that you speak in english, most people here speak english.
[14:10] <lordievader> !german
[14:10] <LachNed> sorry... i have chosen the wrong channel to issue my question. it should have been #ubuntu-de. sorry for that.
[14:16] <lordievader> LachNed: No worries.
[14:50] <soul> Hi
[14:50] <soul> Someone having issues with the touchpad?
[14:50] <soul> I don't know why but is not working anymore
[14:50] <soul> I have to use a mouse now
[14:51] <RamchandraApte> try running alt+f2 and typing touchpad
[14:51] <RamchandraApte> (enter)
[14:58] <debrisrat> hi all
[15:04] <soul> Hi debrisrat
[15:04] <soul> RamchandraApte: http://i.imgur.com/8Zfcum3.png
[15:05] <RamchandraApte> that's odd, kde seems to be detecting your touchpad, but it's not working....
[15:05] <RamchandraApte> has this only occured now or it has been recurring across reboots
[15:05] <debrisrat> sorry i haven't gort any idea :S 
[15:06] <soul> RamchandraApte: Nope, it always worked until... I don't know, two days a go or so
[15:06] <soul> I didn't noticed that because I usually use a mouse
[15:34] <skrite> hey all
[16:12] <dabauer> Can't download in update manager. It says to run get-apt install -f, but that returns a lock error
[16:13] <BluesKaj> dabauer, close the update manager before you run apt-get
[16:13] <dabauer> OK
[16:13] <dabauer> did that
[16:14] <BluesKaj> close any package managers as well
[16:14] <dabauer> I don't have any package managers open (I don't know what a package manager is)
[16:14] <BluesKaj> like muon or muon software center
[16:14] <dabauer> I could have something running that I don't know anything about
[16:15] <dabauer> I don't have muon
[16:15] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu versio are you on ?
[16:16] <dabauer> good question, I'm just running konversation
[16:16] <dabauer> I don't see a version number anywhere
[16:30] <Arhi> Hello
[16:30] <Arhi> Hello
[16:31] <Arhi> I have problem with Kubuntu 13.04 64bit dowload by torrent file
[16:31] <Arhi> from official website
[16:32] <Arhi> when i try install, then i have fatal error when installer want to install grub :|
[16:37] <Arhi> :(
[16:37] <Arhi> all alive :< 
[16:41] <Arhi> somebody is here?
[16:42] <akairobotto> Hello. I installed Kubuntu using wubi; when I boot I see the Kubuntu logo, then I get a cursor but no more activity. Is there some way I can view logs or diagnose this problem?
[16:43] <Arhi> nobody is here ;/
[16:43] <Arhi> so we have problem
[17:05] <yumbox> I am here?
[17:10] <gorgonzola> hello folks! just a quick question... after last update and reboot, a second "network management" widget showed up in my system tray, but i can't identify where it came from or whether i should disable one or the other. Are we switching network management widgets in saucy? anyone knows which package this came from?
[18:32] <slayer> Hi.
[18:33] <slayer> Need some help. I had been a Linux Mint KDE user for about 8 months. I'm trying Kubuntu for a change. Anything I need to worry about?
[18:37] <lordievader> slayer: Nope, most works out of the box :D
[18:39] <slayer> no. i tried Kubuntu on live medium. codecs are missing. adobe flash ain't there. jre was present I guess. anything else?
[18:41] <Zoiaguyver> It will auto install "most" of them when they are needed, you wont get them on the live session due to licensing. OpenJRE is there I think
[18:42] <lordievader> slayer: Tick the install 3rd-party software when installing ;)
[18:43] <slayer> is the 3rd party stuffs like flash, ffmpeg already on the disk or will they be downloaded from repositories?
[18:45] <lordievader> Not sure rarely installed Kubuntu without a network connection.
[18:45] <tsimpson> it will be downloaded, if you have a internet connection
[18:45] <tsimpson> otherwise you can install it later
[18:45] <slayer> thank you very much. file back up over. gotta try kubuntu. have a nice day. it's 12 o'clock here in India. bye :)
[18:46] <lordievader> Good luck slayer 
[20:37] <Guest28953> Hey everyone, I have a huge problem, trying to change my own user the group I lost privilige right, how I can reset it?  I am not able to login as user anymore
[22:01] <ReMatrix72> hi
[22:41] <tiberiu> I don't know about you guys but when it comes to hardware that doesn't work I get preaty frustrated
[22:41] <tiberiu> Have anyone of you hava a keyboard light on the laptop
[22:41] <tiberiu> ?
[23:50] <geri> hi, i extended my linux machine with an additional harddisk...just to store data.... its /dev/sdb ...should it be a primary or extended partition?