[09:39] cjwatson: split ubuntuone plugin into a separate package, and seed it on those images that want it? [09:40] maybe not during beta1... [09:40] it will also lighten dependencies, as some things were added because of the u1 plugin (e.g. gi gnomekeyring et. al.) [09:40] That would seem to make more sense, yeah === psivaa is now known as psivaa-lunch === kentb-out is now known as kentb === kentb is now known as kentb-afk === kyleN is now known as kyleN-afk === psivaa-lunch is now known as psivaa === kentb-afk is now known as kentb === kyleN-afk is now known as kyleN === kentb is now known as kentb-afk === kentb-afk is now known as kentb === kentb is now known as kentb-out [22:30] xnox: would your fix for bug 1213925 help with crash notifications on live cds? bug 1220435? [22:30] Launchpad bug 1213925 in upstart (Ubuntu) "upstart should notice "/etc" inode change" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1213925 [22:30] Launchpad bug 1220435 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "not notified of a crash when running a saucy live cd" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220435 [23:34] bdmurray: I'm not sure how xnox's fix to 1213925 is a fix at all. It would catch the first time /etc is modified, and no time after that. [23:35] bdmurray: I still think the only sane fix for the upstart-on-overlayfs case is a dpkg trigger that registers interest in /etc/init and forces a config reload. [23:35] xnox: ^ === jbicha is now known as Guest59609 [23:38] bdmurray: As for the /var/crash thing, I don't have a good solution there. Possibly just admitting it's busted and making /var/crash a tmpfs on the livecd would do the trick. [23:38] bdmurray: That would be a trivial change to casper, probably. [23:41] infinity: thanks [23:46] * infinity copies and pastes IRC backscroll into bugs. [23:47] bdmurray: /var/crash-as-tmpfs would work well. I'm just wary of setting a precedent for "everything someone might want to inotify watch on a livecd" becoming a tmpfs over time. :) [23:47] bdmurray: But /var/crash is a bit special, and probably one of the few cases we care about not being quirky and ignored. So perhaps justifiable. [23:48] bdmurray: If you mount it as a tmpfs in casper, perhaps a comment of "# don't follow this example; /var/crash is a unique snowflake" might be in order. :P [23:52] beautiful too === Guest59609 is now known as jbicha_