[09:39] <xnox> cjwatson: split ubuntuone plugin into a separate package, and seed it on those images that want it?
[09:40] <xnox> maybe not during beta1...
[09:40] <xnox> it will also lighten dependencies, as some things were added because of the u1 plugin (e.g. gi gnomekeyring et. al.)
[09:40] <cjwatson> That would seem to make more sense, yeah
[22:30] <bdmurray> xnox: would your fix for bug 1213925 help with crash notifications on live cds?  bug 1220435?
[22:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1213925 in upstart (Ubuntu) "upstart should notice "/etc" inode change" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1213925
[22:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1220435 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "not notified of a crash when running a saucy live cd" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220435
[23:34] <infinity> bdmurray: I'm not sure how xnox's fix to 1213925 is a fix at all.  It would catch the first time /etc is modified, and no time after that.
[23:35] <infinity> bdmurray: I still think the only sane fix for the upstart-on-overlayfs case is a dpkg trigger that registers interest in /etc/init and forces a config reload.
[23:35] <infinity> xnox: ^
[23:38] <infinity> bdmurray: As for the /var/crash thing, I don't have a good solution there.  Possibly just admitting it's busted and making /var/crash a tmpfs on the livecd would do the trick.
[23:38] <infinity> bdmurray: That would be a trivial change to casper, probably.
[23:41] <bdmurray> infinity: thanks
[23:46]  * infinity copies and pastes IRC backscroll into bugs.
[23:47] <infinity> bdmurray: /var/crash-as-tmpfs would work well.  I'm just wary of setting a precedent for "everything someone might want to inotify watch on a livecd" becoming a tmpfs over time. :)
[23:47] <infinity> bdmurray: But /var/crash is a bit special, and probably one of the few cases we care about not being quirky and ignored.  So perhaps justifiable.
[23:48] <infinity> bdmurray: If you mount it as a tmpfs in casper, perhaps a comment of "# don't follow this example; /var/crash is a unique snowflake" might be in order. :P
[23:52] <bdmurray> beautiful too