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| lool | stgraber, barry: Hey | 13:01 |
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| barry | lool: hi | 13:01 |
| lool | ogra_: hallo | 13:01 |
| ogra_ | hey ho | 13:01 |
| * stgraber waves | 13:02 | |
| lool | I think we have two things for this week | 13:02 |
| lool | switch to new numbers + announcement on one side, and blueprint / starting work for stuff we've discussed at vUDS | 13:03 |
| lool | stgraber, barry: So I read stgraber had tested updating to new version numbers | 13:03 |
| lool | I did too | 13:03 |
| lool | I had to manually trigger the update once | 13:03 |
| lool | then it picked up the update from 17 to 18 in daily-barry | 13:04 |
| lool | but first, do you folks have other agenda items? :-) | 13:04 |
| * ogra_ doesnt | 13:04 | |
| barry | nope | 13:04 |
| stgraber | nope, first thing on my todo is to drop daily-barry, archive daily and daily-proposed, re-import both of them with the new numbering and write+send the announcement | 13:05 |
| lool | sounds great | 13:05 |
| barry | i haven't tried upgrading since friday, but good to hear it worked for lool and stgraber | 13:05 |
| stgraber | then start updating the wiki and file bugs for the next bits on my list (channel aliases being pretty high up on it) | 13:05 |
| barry | when do you think we can drop support in the client for the old version numbers? | 13:06 |
| lool | barry: I had to use the cmdline to trigger the update with -b0 though, but I think that was expected? | 13:06 |
| barry | lool: yes, expected | 13:06 |
| lool | barry: give it 10 days or so? | 13:06 |
| barry | lool: sounds good to me | 13:06 |
| barry | (tbh, it's more tech debt than anything else) | 13:06 |
| lool | ok; there's a hangout with QA team later today where we should get latest status on them testing the new images | 13:07 |
| lool | I think that's all | 13:07 |
| lool | asac: what were your questions WRT the switch? | 13:07 |
| stgraber | barry: well, in theory you can do that tomorrow since we won't be publishing updates with the new format | 13:07 |
| barry | stgraber: ack | 13:08 |
| lool | hmm right, perhaps we want to keep the option of a roll back for a couple of days | 13:08 |
| lool | but that's it I guess | 13:08 |
| asac | lool: wanted an ETA when you guys feel we are in a state that we should start focussing on the touch_ro dashboard | 13:08 |
| stgraber | yeah, I guess it doesn't hurt to keep it as a rollback option for a few days | 13:08 |
| lool | asac: last week? :-) | 13:08 |
| asac | lool: so all the technologyu parts have landed etc.? | 13:08 |
| lool | yes | 13:09 |
| lool | we switch numbering scheme Friday, so we delayed until today to announce | 13:09 |
| asac | e.g. we can go into stabilization/testing and later, switch default mode | 13:09 |
| asac | ok | 13:09 |
| asac | so what will be announced today? | 13:09 |
| lool | today we want to announce that the new images are ready for wide consumption | 13:09 |
| barry | lool: doesn't matter really. i won't even start on that until after the d/l service integration (unless i find it's a blocker, but i doubt it) | 13:09 |
| lool | I don't think we'll have a phablet-flash default, but we should switch the QA tests to use these now | 13:10 |
| asac | lool: whats the diff on the dashboard? | 13:10 |
| asac | lool: can we get the dashboard first into shape? | 13:10 |
| barry | LP: #1220238 | 13:10 |
| asac | http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/ | 13:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1220238 in Ubuntu system image "Remove support for old version numbers" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220238 | 13:10 |
| lool | asac: apparently QA team was still converting some tests to run on the host as they were too big to apt-get install | 13:10 |
| asac | those should have more or less the same results | 13:10 |
| lool | asac: but we have a hangout later today with QA team that might be better suited to bring this up | 13:10 |
| lool | (nobody from QA here0 | 13:10 |
| asac | so right now we cannot promote images to /current | 13:10 |
| asac | which means its not very good if we ask folks to move over | 13:11 |
| asac | lets first get our dashboard in shape | 13:11 |
| lool | barry: might want to check with mandel when the updated download service is landing | 13:11 |
| lool | barry: he seemed to be changing the API a bit; not much, but still | 13:11 |
| barry | lool: yep, on my plate :) | 13:11 |
| asac | lool: do we have a tool to promote images? | 13:11 |
| asac | is that one ready? | 13:12 |
| lool | asac: it's hooked to the promotion of current | 13:12 |
| asac | ok | 13:12 |
| asac | well not so ok :) | 13:12 |
| asac | but ok | 13:12 |
| asac | :) | 13:12 |
| lool | well, you could switch it manually if needed I guess | 13:12 |
| lool | stgraber: ^ | 13:12 |
| asac | so lets not announce them until we have valid results | 13:12 |
| lool | but we should avoid this | 13:12 |
| lool | asac: I'm not in favor of delaying the announcement | 13:12 |
| lool | we want more people testing these | 13:12 |
| asac | only if we decouple promotion | 13:13 |
| asac | i dont want to promote stuff like this | 13:13 |
| asac | lool: you can announce that people should try, but dont announce that they should use it as their default | 13:13 |
| lool | so you would like separate promotion of pending -> current and daily-proposed -> daily | 13:13 |
| lool | because they are tested separately | 13:13 |
| asac | right | 13:13 |
| lool | I can see how this makes sense, but it's bad if latest daily and latest current are different | 13:14 |
| asac | we have different results as well | 13:14 |
| lool | and we want to stop testing pending -> current altogether | 13:14 |
| asac | not so sure about that one... for me its two different channels | 13:14 |
| asac | so i dont have a problem if they are out of sync | 13:14 |
| asac | we want to move over to touch_ro and kill the other | 13:14 |
| lool | yes | 13:14 |
| asac | right. so decouple so we can fix touch_ro | 13:14 |
| lool | so I think it's a bit overzealous to maintain two systems | 13:14 |
| asac | and not stop promoting the old image | 13:14 |
| ogra_ | asac, we cant stop promoting it | 13:15 |
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| ogra_ | it is used by ports ... we have no option for them to use system image | 13:15 |
| asac | ogra_: right. i dont want to stop promoting cdimage-touch | 13:15 |
| asac | which would happen if i know that i promoote touch_ro at same time | 13:15 |
| lool | we will stop testing the cdimage ones | 13:16 |
| ogra_ | yeah, we only can do that in case we figure out how community can provide self signed images | 13:16 |
| lool | ports can test their own images in situ | 13:16 |
| asac | can we move that part offline :) | 13:16 |
| ogra_ | well, we test the same content in system imagess | 13:16 |
| asac | all i sam saying is: if /pending -> /current automatically promotes touch_ro, then i cant promote cdimage-touch | 13:16 |
| lool | ok | 13:16 |
| ogra_ | so as long as they work there it is likelz they also work in cdimage images | 13:16 |
| asac | if touch_ro is red | 13:16 |
| ogra_ | cdimage touch should jprobably ust drop current and pending ... and grow a /latest :) | 13:17 |
| lool | asac: *we* have a single set of images that we care about; we just keep the option of using cdimage images available for ports, or for engineers that want to test this intermediate step, but it's not considered a product / baseline | 13:17 |
| asac | lets discuss that _after_ we have moved over to touch_ro | 13:17 |
| asac | lool: right, but right now its soo bloody red | 13:18 |
| lool | the only thing _we_ will be testing are the system-image images | 13:18 |
| asac | if you would have come to me at a day where its 92% | 13:18 |
| asac | i would have had more faith that coupling both is fine for the transition period | 13:18 |
| ogra_ | asac, you came to us ! | 13:18 |
| lool | asac: but nobody retries stuff on touch_ro | 13:18 |
| asac | buyt seems that our infrastructure is just not ready for the touch_ro | 13:18 |
| asac | right | 13:18 |
| asac | so lets do that this week | 13:18 |
| ogra_ | :) | 13:18 |
| asac | focus on getting touch_ro also working | 13:18 |
| asac | on infrastructrure | 13:19 |
| lool | stgraber: would you mind attending the QA hangout later today? | 13:19 |
| asac | i would prefer if the system-image team would drive that part | 13:19 |
| lool | I'd like to get a final date agreed to announce this | 13:19 |
| stgraber | lool: sure, I can do that | 13:19 |
| asac | e.g. until you reach like 90% | 13:19 |
| asac | then i am happy to take it over | 13:19 |
| lool | stgraber: I think we should do the renumbering today and announce it though | 13:19 |
| lool | stgraber: perhaps just on ubuntu-phone ML | 13:19 |
| barry | +1 on renumbering announcement | 13:19 |
| lool | asac: who will track the switch of QA to RO images? | 13:20 |
| lool | we can discuss in the hangout I guess | 13:20 |
| lool | asac: I'll chat with you about this | 13:20 |
| stgraber | yeah, I'll do the renumbering as scheduled | 13:20 |
| lool | ok, the other thing is updating the bps post-vUDS | 13:20 |
| lool | stgraber, barry: I didn't copy workitems over from the session | 13:20 |
| asac | lool: this team would drive the part | 13:21 |
| asac | until its good | 13:21 |
| asac | like 80% | 13:21 |
| asac | again | 13:21 |
| lool | asac: like us? | 13:21 |
| lool | asac: or QA team? | 13:21 |
| asac | no you guys should drive | 13:21 |
| asac | its your landing | 13:21 |
| asac | and you are seeing red in the dashboard | 13:21 |
| asac | :) | 13:21 |
| lool | this doesn't make sense, we don't have any control over this | 13:21 |
| asac | well, but you are the drivers | 13:21 |
| barry | lool: i'll double check, though tbh i find the bug tracker a *much* better way to track work than blueprints :/ | 13:21 |
| asac | not saying you have to do all the work | 13:21 |
| asac | just drive it | 13:22 |
| lool | asac: we can't fix QA infrastructure or QA scripts; we can only advice on how ot implement -- which we did | 13:22 |
| asac | lool: i asked psivaa-lunch now to give it love like we do on touch | 13:22 |
| asac | lool: you can notify them abvout that | 13:22 |
| asac | and ask for retries etc. | 13:22 |
| asac | or ask for help | 13:22 |
| lool | asac: but we want a single contact in QA team; so psivaa you say? | 13:23 |
| lool | ok | 13:23 |
| asac | lool: psivaa-lunch and plars are your entry points | 13:24 |
| asac | to get stuff retried | 13:24 |
| asac | etc. | 13:24 |
| lool | stgraber: gah, can't find the bp from 13.08 vuds again | 13:24 |
| lool | ah it was upate on OS updates | 13:24 |
| lool | and it was just for summit | 13:24 |
| lool | stgraber, barry: Well, bugs are fine for tracking, but to bubble them up to the workitem tracker we need to link them to some blueprint | 13:25 |
| lool | I just wanted us to agree on teh blueprint we'll use going forward | 13:25 |
| lool | do we update the 1305 one, or use the 1308 from vUDS, or yet another one? | 13:25 |
| stgraber | lool: everything on the old one should be marked as done or postponed | 13:26 |
| stgraber | lool: and we should use https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-1308-os-updates until next vUDS | 13:26 |
| lool | ok | 13:26 |
| barry | i'm fine with using the new one. i'll do some housekeeping on the 1305 one | 13:27 |
| lool | I can copy over stuff from 1305 to 1308 | 13:27 |
| lool | can you two update it with new stuff? | 13:27 |
| barry | lool: sure | 13:27 |
| stgraber | yeah, I don't think I've looked at the old blueprint since the last vUDS so I suspect my work items are pretty out of date | 13:27 |
| barry | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-1305-image-based-updates | 13:27 |
| lool | barry: just link the bugs there | 13:27 |
| barry | lool: +1 | 13:27 |
| lool | hmm when using bugs we can't postpone them | 13:28 |
| lool | anyway | 13:28 |
| lool | ok; that's all I had | 13:28 |
| lool | anything else from you folks? | 13:28 |
| barry | nope | 13:28 |
| lool | I wanted to make this meeting biweekly with the announcement of new images | 13:28 |
| lool | stgraber, ogra_, barry, asac: Ok; thanks all! | 13:29 |
| ogra_ | thanks | 13:29 |
| stgraber | nothing else here. I'll switch to the new version numbers in a bit, it'll take a few hours to re-import everything | 13:29 |
| barry | cheers | 13:29 |
| stgraber | then will nag QA to re-run the tests and see how things behave. I expect they'll have to go through several run of fixing the tests before things start looking good (I don't expect changes to the image to be required) | 13:30 |
| stgraber | oh and I have no idea how the QA website will handle a new image replacing a broken one in daily-proposed | 13:30 |
| stgraber | since it'll have the same version number | 13:31 |
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| jamespage | o/ | 15:58 |
| jamespage | evening folks | 15:58 |
| smoser | o/ | 15:59 |
| smb | \o | 15:59 |
| hallyn_ | \o | 16:00 |
| adam_g | o/ | 16:01 |
| zul | hiho | 16:01 |
| hallyn_ | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
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| hallyn_ | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 16:02 |
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| hallyn_ | arosales to update Juju blueprints | 16:02 |
| arosales | hallyn_, got some good updates during the sprint last week. | 16:02 |
| hallyn_ | and bp is updated? | 16:02 |
| hallyn_ | will assume yes :) | 16:03 |
| hallyn_ | hallyn_ to coordinate with zul and smb on testing xen 4.3 on nova | 16:03 |
| hallyn_ | done - tested fine | 16:03 |
| hallyn_ | zul to follow up on mariadb/percona making it into Saucy | 16:03 |
| hallyn_ | zul: done? | 16:04 |
| jamespage | we have a catchup in +2 hrs about that with percona | 16:04 |
| jamespage | mariadb is still in review in Debian | 16:04 |
| hallyn_ | cool, i'll count that as up-followed | 16:04 |
| hallyn_ | thx | 16:04 |
| jamespage | and percona expect to work on it next month | 16:04 |
| jamespage | saucy looking unlikely | 16:04 |
| hallyn_ | ok | 16:04 |
| hallyn_ | #topic Saucy Development | 16:04 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Saucy Development | ||
| hallyn_ | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server | 16:05 |
| hallyn_ | looking through the high prio ones, not sure those pertain to us | 16:06 |
| hallyn_ | oh there we go | 16:06 |
| arosales | hallyn_, yes sorry for the delay. Yes got some good BP updates | 16:06 |
| hallyn_ | bug 1208455 - we can talk about during smb's section | 16:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1208455 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "general protection fault running apt-get inside double nested kvm VM" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208455 | 16:06 |
| hallyn_ | arosales: great, thanks | 16:07 |
| hallyn_ | bug 1213915 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | bug 1213915 in ceph (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please demote ceph-mds and ceph-fs-common to universe" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1213915 | 16:07 |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: ? | 16:07 |
| jamespage | with archive admins | 16:07 |
| jamespage | no further action on our part required | 16:07 |
| hallyn_ | thx | 16:07 |
| hallyn_ | bug 1206872 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | bug 1206872 in samba (Ubuntu Saucy) "samba fails to unpack (behavior change in patch) and ftbfs on aarch64" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206872 | 16:07 |
| hallyn_ | zul: ^ ? | 16:07 |
| hallyn_ | also bug 1156932 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | bug 1156932 in python-novaclient (Ubuntu Saucy) "User can't modify security-group-rule via nova-api if there are duplicated security group name" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1156932 | 16:08 |
| jamespage | thats fixed | 16:08 |
| zul | will look at it this week | 16:08 |
| hallyn_ | and bug 1199791 | 16:08 |
| ubottu | bug 1199791 in nova (Ubuntu Saucy) "nova-compute-xcp misses nova-compute.conf" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1199791 | 16:08 |
| zul | jamespage: the samba one/ | 16:08 |
| jamespage | yeah | 16:08 |
| jamespage | nova security groups thing is not and probably won't be I guess | 16:08 |
| zul | jamespage: i was hoping for the nova security one ;) | 16:08 |
| jamespage | nah | 16:08 |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: sorry, won't be what? | 16:08 |
| jamespage | its not that of a biggy | 16:08 |
| jamespage | won't be fixed | 16:08 |
| hallyn_ | ok | 16:08 |
| hallyn_ | last high prio one is bug 1214615 | 16:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1214615 in juju-core (Ubuntu Saucy) "package juju-core 1.13.1-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1214615 | 16:09 |
| jamespage | I just closed that | 16:09 |
| jamespage | I realized my mistake just after uploading but someone raised a bug Idid not spot | 16:09 |
| hallyn_ | i see that :) thx | 16:09 |
| hallyn_ | ok, so moving on to blueprints | 16:09 |
| jamespage | that horizon r/w on /usr/share is a pig as well | 16:09 |
| * jamespage bumps the priority | 16:09 | |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: oh? | 16:10 |
| jamespage | I hit is yesterday when testing a few updates for horizon | 16:10 |
| hallyn_ | bug 1216019 | 16:10 |
| jamespage | I'll have a look | 16:10 |
| ubottu | bug 1216019 in horizon (Ubuntu Saucy) "Horizon default config assumes www-data has R/w on /usr/share... directory" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1216019 | 16:10 |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: thx | 16:10 |
| jamespage | yeah - horizon tries to store/retrieve a secret | 16:10 |
| jamespage | is horrid | 16:10 |
| hallyn_ | ok, so moving on - | 16:11 |
| hallyn_ | [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-servercloud-overview.html | 16:11 |
| hallyn_ | arosales: jamespage: ^ | 16:11 |
| * hallyn_ defers | 16:11 | |
| jamespage | good oh | 16:11 |
| arosales | smoser, jamespage did vUDS allow for some good BP updates? | 16:11 |
| jamespage | looks like everything might have had a good catchup after uds last week | 16:11 |
| arosales | ah ok | 16:12 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-openstack-charms-ha-v2 | 16:12 |
| jamespage | any updates? | 16:12 |
| jamespage | bah - we are stuck on the hard stuff - active/active rabbitmq and active/active mysql | 16:12 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: nope, I'll start this week to work on the charms (cause got distracted last week with toher stuff) right now in training | 16:12 |
| jamespage | I started to look at charming percona/cluster using upstream repositories | 16:13 |
| jamespage | it feel fragile still | 16:13 |
| jamespage | anyway.. | 16:13 |
| smoser | arosales, i did a far amount of bp updates. if nothing else, vuds did give a reasonable time slot for that. | 16:13 |
| jamespage | smoser, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-simplestreams | 16:13 |
| jamespage | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-cloud-init | 16:13 |
| jamespage | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-openstack-qa got a bit of a replan post vUDS | 16:14 |
| jamespage | so s'ok | 16:14 |
| smoser | jamespage, simplestreams is in correct state. | 16:15 |
| jamespage | zul, please can you update and re-plan https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-openstack-havana against remaining milestones | 16:15 |
| smoser | cloud-init i'm updating now. | 16:15 |
| zul | ack | 16:15 |
| zul | jamespage: will do so this afternoon | 16:15 |
| jamespage | I don't think mongodb will make main this cycle - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-mongodb | 16:15 |
| jamespage | but hopefully we can figure out something with upstream for 14.04 | 16:16 |
| zul | arrgh | 16:16 |
| jamespage | that said we are now ship-shape on OpenSSL + AGPL linking exceptions | 16:16 |
| * jamespage thanks MongoDB for doing that | 16:16 | |
| jamespage | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-openstack-charms | 16:16 |
| jamespage | adam_g, I think that needs an update post UDS session please; with milestones etc... | 16:17 |
| adam_g | jamespage, ack | 16:17 |
| jamespage | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-cloud-archive | 16:17 |
| jamespage | replanned and OK | 16:17 |
| jamespage | zul, smb, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-openstack-hypervisor has some immediate work items that need attention | 16:18 |
| jamespage | specifcally FFe's for openstack stuff | 16:18 |
| zul | FFE filed for xen | 16:18 |
| smb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen/+bug/1218817 | 16:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1218817 in xen (Ubuntu) "[FFE] Update to Xen-4.3 in Saucy" [High,New] | 16:18 |
| jamespage | zul, please update the blueprint then | 16:18 |
| zul | FFE filed for openstack-lxc coming today | 16:18 |
| jamespage | thanks | 16:18 |
| smb | jamespage, thought I did update the bp | 16:19 |
| jamespage | smb; so you did - my mistake | 16:19 |
| jamespage | arosales, want to touch on the juju blueprints? | 16:19 |
| jamespage | I'm not so close to those... | 16:19 |
| jamespage | nope -OK | 16:20 |
| jamespage | looks like not to many issues anyway | 16:20 |
| jamespage | hallyn_, back to you | 16:20 |
| arosales | jamespage, I think we are good for this week | 16:21 |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: thanks, moving on, | 16:21 |
| arosales | plus looks like I lost my chance :-) | 16:21 |
| jamespage | arosales, lol | 16:21 |
| jamespage | blink and you miss it | 16:21 |
| hallyn_ | :) | 16:21 |
| * arosales too slow | 16:21 | |
| hallyn_ | #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events | 16:21 |
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| hallyn_ | plumber's is comgin up with several mini-confs (lxc, virt, security...) | 16:21 |
| * smb will be there | 16:22 | |
| hallyn_ | any more coming up? | 16:22 |
| arosales | charm school this friday | 16:22 |
| arosales | https://juju.ubuntu.com/events/ | 16:22 |
| arosales | How to use Charm Helpers | 16:22 |
| arosales | 1700 UTC (1pm EDT) 6 September | 16:22 |
| arosales | #juju on Freenode | 16:22 |
| hallyn_ | and maybe what charm helpers are? :) /me should consider listening in | 16:22 |
| hallyn_ | ok, moving on, | 16:22 |
| hallyn_ | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) | 16:22 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) | ||
| arosales | yes if you don't know what charms are please join us and find out :-) | 16:23 |
| jamespage | charm helpers help you write charms in less code +10000 | 16:23 |
| zul | lol | 16:23 |
| hallyn_ | plars: psivaa: \o | 16:23 |
| hallyn_ | we can come back if need be, | 16:23 |
| hallyn_ | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) | 16:23 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) | ||
| psivaa | hello | 16:24 |
| smb | too late ? :) | 16:24 |
| psivaa | no updaes from us btw :) | 16:24 |
| hallyn_ | psivaa: ok thanks :) | 16:24 |
| smb | So just for that kvm bug mentioned before... | 16:24 |
| smb | I cannot say more than that is seems to be some regression with 3.11 (maybe 3.10 already). I just managed to write a lengthy email to the kvm mailing list this morning as I am not sure how to drill down further. Basing on 64bit Precise and 64bit Saucy on level 1 for a level 2 should be mostly working but adding more saucy to deeper nesting is likely prone to fail. | 16:24 |
| hallyn_ | smb: so 3.9-under-3.9 wouldn't have had this problem? | 16:24 |
| hallyn_ | (I thought jodh was having trouble iwth earlier kernels, but maybe i mis-remember) | 16:25 |
| smb | hallyn_, I think only 32bit user-space in level 1 seems to have been broken a bit longer | 16:25 |
| hallyn_ | oh. right. we have multiple bugs? | 16:25 |
| smb | Likely | 16:25 |
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| hallyn_ | lovely | 16:25 |
| hallyn_ | ok so, we're waiting on community to jump in. this can be rperoduced with fedora or some other distros i assume? | 16:26 |
| smb | I hope but I have not tried | 16:26 |
| hallyn_ | ok. (mahbe i'll try later this week) any other questions for smb | 16:26 |
| hallyn_ | if not, we can move on to... | 16:27 |
| hallyn_ | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) | 16:27 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) | ||
| rbasak | Nothing new from me. Any questions? | 16:27 |
| hallyn_ | (waiting 30 secs for responses) | 16:27 |
| hallyn_ | great, let's move on to | 16:28 |
| hallyn_ | #topic Open Discussion | 16:28 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion | ||
| hallyn_ | anything? | 16:28 |
| rbasak | In case anyone is unaware, http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/triage-report.html needs some love. | 16:28 |
| hallyn_ | oh yeah - can we do any automated cleanup of the likewise-open bugs? | 16:29 |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: ^ that looks like yoru ba | 16:29 |
| hallyn_ | bag | 16:29 |
| jamespage | golly | 16:30 |
| jamespage | yes | 16:30 |
| jamespage | I'll take a look | 16:30 |
| jamespage | but if the rest of the team can have a dirge on bug triage this week/next that would be helpful | 16:30 |
| * jamespage holds up his hand for being a little neglegent on triage duty recently | 16:30 | |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: ok, thanks :) i looked at some by hand, and actually they looked like not all the same causes - but it's hard to tell bc i don't know the package that well | 16:30 |
| hallyn_ | i'd also like to consider taking all < 1000000 numbered likewise-open bugs and marking them all dups or something | 16:31 |
| hallyn_ | but ok, let's say | 16:31 |
| hallyn_ | [ACTION] everyone spend extra time triaging bugs this week | 16:31 |
| meetingology | ACTION: everyone spend extra time triaging bugs this week | 16:31 |
| hallyn_ | so we can move on to | 16:32 |
| hallyn_ | #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair | 16:32 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announce next meeting date, time and chair | ||
| hallyn_ | Should be Tuesday Sep 10 at 16:00 UTC, with the magnificent roaksoax chairing | 16:32 |
| hallyn_ | thanks everyone \o | 16:32 |
| hallyn_ | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Sep 3 16:33:04 2013 UTC. | 16:32 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-09-03-16.02.moin.txt | 16:32 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-09-03-16.02.html | 16:32 |
| jamespage | thanks hallyn_ | 16:32 |
| jsalisbury | #startmeeting | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## | 17:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Sep 3 17:00:36 2013 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 17:00 |
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| jsalisbury | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Saucy | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # Meeting Etiquette | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized) | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting | 17:00 |
| ppisati | o/ | 17:00 |
| arges | o/ | 17:00 |
| cking | o/ | 17:00 |
| henrix | o/ | 17:00 |
| apw | o/ | 17:00 |
| smb | \o | 17:00 |
| bjf | o/ | 17:00 |
| sforshee | o/ | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | o/ | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) | 17:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Status (ppisati) | ||
| ppisati | Latest bits for Calxeda Midway and LPAE support were pulled in S/master-next. | 17:01 |
| ppisati | Work continues on making the S/master generic kernel use a concatenated | 17:01 |
| ppisati | DTB: S/master-next tip has all the necessary config changes, while flash-kernel | 17:01 |
| ppisati | still needs some work. | 17:01 |
| ppisati | .. | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) | 17:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) | ||
| jsalisbury | Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | .. | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) | 17:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) | ||
| ogasawara | [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | || apw || foundations-1305-arm64-bringup || 2 work items || | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | || ppisati || foundations-1305-kernel || 1 work item || | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | || sforshee || pm-system-policy || 1 work item || | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | || smb || servercloud-s-virtstack || 1 work item || | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | || || servercloud-s-openstack-hypervisor || 1 work item || | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | .. | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: Saucy Development Kernel (ogasawara) | 17:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Saucy Development Kernel (ogasawara) | ||
| ogasawara | v3.11 final has been released upstream and we have rebased our Saucy | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | tree. The archive is however frozen for the Beta-1 release this Thurs. | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | As such, Beta-1 will ship with a v3.11-rc7 based kernel. We will upload | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | our v3.11 rebased to -proposed and it will propogate to the release once | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | the archive freeze has lifted. | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | ----- | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Important upcoming dates: | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Thurs Sep 05 - Beta 1 (~2 days away) | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Thurs Sep 19 - Final Beta Freeze (~2 weeks away) | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Thurs Sep 26 - Final Beta (~3 weeks away) | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Thurs Oct 03 - Kernel Freeze (~4 weeks away) | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | .. | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: CVE's | 17:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: CVE's | ||
| jsalisbury | == 2013-09-03 == | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | The current CVE status can be reviewed at the following link: | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | .. | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Raring/Quantal/Precise/Lucid (bjf/henrix/sconklin) | 17:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Raring/Quantal/Precise/Lucid (bjf/henrix/sconklin) | ||
| bjf | Status for the main kernels, until today (Sept. 03): | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Lucid - Regression Testing | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Precise - Regression Testing | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Quantal - Regression Testing | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Raring - Regression Testing | 17:03 |
| bjf | Current opened tracking bugs details: | 17:03 |
| bjf | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html | 17:03 |
| bjf | For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: | 17:03 |
| bjf | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html | 17:03 |
| bjf | .. | 17:03 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) | 17:04 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) | ||
| jsalisbury | Thanks everyone | 17:04 |
| jsalisbury | #endmeeting | 17:04 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Sep 3 17:05:19 2013 UTC. | 17:04 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-09-03-17.00.moin.txt | 17:04 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-09-03-17.00.html | 17:04 |
| kamal | thanks jsalisbury | 17:05 |
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