| slangasek | cjwatson: aha, thanks | 00:42 |
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| darkxst | Hi, can we get gdm, gnome-session and gnome-shell-extensions unblocked for ubuntu GNOME bug 1212408 | 04:17 |
| slangasek | darkxst: done | 05:41 |
| darkxst | slangasek, thanks! | 05:42 |
| Laney | Not sure I want to read up. :P | 08:00 |
| mlankhorst | don't do it! | 08:02 |
| Laney | slangasek: I just applied the same algorithm we've done before, and followed the release schedule. Sure, we can discuss adjusting it in future. | 08:02 |
| mlankhorst | Riddell: if it works probably | 08:03 |
| Laney | slangasek: (I agree that it's probably overly conservative but we didn't work out anything more limited up to now) | 08:12 |
| Laney | Furthermore there was a bug where a load of Touch and Ubuntu-only patches showed up in Edubuntu images which bloated the hint a lot | 08:13 |
| smartboyhw | Laney, phillw is a bit tempermental some times, so don't put the "insult" in your mind too much:( | 08:13 |
| Laney | I didn't get to update it as the Edubuntu respin hadn't popped out before I had to leave yesterday | 08:13 |
| Laney | The script works off tumbleweed's parsed image manifest data | 08:14 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: i'd rather see phillw stop insulting, rather than other people "dealing to ignore those". | 08:14 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, I do too | 08:14 |
| Laney | Never mind, I'm not bothered. | 08:14 |
| highvoltage | +1 | 08:14 |
| highvoltage | also, happy birthday xnox! | 08:15 |
| Laney | Thanks to everyone for replying though. | 08:15 |
| Laney | All the expected images there now? | 08:15 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, happy birthday:) | 08:15 |
| * Laney gives xnox the birthday bumps | 08:15 | |
| Laney | 18 today! | 08:15 |
| infinity | Laney: Oh please, I doubt he's a day over 15. | 08:16 |
| * infinity tickles xnox. | 08:16 | |
| xnox | :-P | 08:16 |
| * xnox *giggle* | 08:17 | |
| smartboyhw | How old IS xnox BTW:P | 08:17 |
| Laney | Nobody knows. He has fake ID. | 08:17 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: 78 | 08:17 |
| Laney | See! | 08:17 |
| smartboyhw | -.- | 08:17 |
| xnox | Laney: s/ID/IDs/ | 08:17 |
| infinity | He *claims* to be 25, but that's clearly a lie. | 08:17 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:17 |
| infinity | Everyone always overshoots their first fake ID to try to be "realistic". | 08:18 |
| infinity | "Oh, I can't claim to be 18, that's too obvious, I'll go for 35." | 08:18 |
| czajkowski | I'm pretty sure xnox and Laney need to still carry their ID around today :) | 08:22 |
| Laney | Mine's embarrassing because I haven't learned to drive so I just have the learners license with a big red "L" on it | 08:23 |
| infinity | Laney: Is the big red L on your forehead? That would be really embarrassing. | 08:24 |
| Laney | They told me I was too drunk when I tried to get that tattoo | 08:25 |
| iulian | Heh. | 08:25 |
| xnox | Laney: i used to walk around with citizen card as proof of age. | 08:31 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, thank you for the link | 08:40 |
| smartboyhw | Laney, speaking of which: Should upgrade testcases be enabled for flavours? | 08:41 |
| Laney | shadeslayer: Can be. You want? | 08:43 |
| Laney | shadeslayer: sorry | 08:44 |
| Laney | smartboyhw: ^ | 08:44 |
| * smartboyhw thinks Laney pinged the wrong person:P | 08:44 | |
| smartboyhw | Laney, well, I'm still asking the Ubuntu Studio people, since we disabled it for 13.04 | 08:44 |
| smartboyhw | But, other flavours would want it I think | 08:44 |
| mlankhorst | infinity: oh I'm still curious about saucy->precise xserver backport.. there is going to be nastiness with pointer barriers one way or another. :P I was thinking of copying libxi/x11 unrenamed from saucy, and give unity an internal copy of the old function calls, deciding at runtime which pointer barrier api to use.. | 08:45 |
| Laney | Didn't have it for A2 | 08:45 |
| Laney | I checked raring beta 1 and it didn't get great coverage then | 08:45 |
| Laney | but I'm happy to copy them if (a) I find out how and (b) people ask for it | 08:45 |
| Laney | assuming they can't do it themselves that is | 08:45 |
| Laney | Looks like you can ;-) | 08:58 |
| smartboyhw | Laney, yes | 08:58 |
| smartboyhw | But, I think the flavour leads will forget that:P | 08:58 |
| smartboyhw | I mean, adding the upgrades | 08:58 |
| Laney | smartboyhw: If you like, you can mail the list to remind. | 08:59 |
| smartboyhw | Laney, syre | 08:59 |
| Laney | "Ubuntu Studio decided to enable upgrade test cases because of blah blah blah. You might want to do the same, but you don't have to." | 08:59 |
| darkxst | Laney, smartboyhw, we added uprade test cases for Ubuntu GNOME | 09:38 |
| Laney | okey pokes | 09:38 |
| smartboyhw | darkxst, no need to tell me, it's your team's own decision and discretions:P | 09:38 |
| darkxst | just saying its not like it need release team intervention! | 09:39 |
| * Laney nods | 09:41 | |
| mlankhorst | infinity: want to know what's even more fun? backporting llvm-3.3 to precise :P | 10:05 |
| mlankhorst | it seems to want a newer binutils.. | 10:06 |
| Riddell | mlankhorst: I think putting in symlinks from the pvr directory to the mesa libwayland would solve it, how does that sound? | 10:11 |
| Riddell | stgraber: I'm getting lost in iso tracker again, how do I enable upgrade for kubuntu? | 10:14 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, is that libwayland in all mesa installs ? | 10:14 |
| ogra_ | i.e from which package does it come ? | 10:15 |
| Riddell | ogra_: yeah it's part of libegl1-mesa-drivers | 10:15 |
| ogra_ | if its the generic mesa package such a symlink will likely breal Mir | 10:15 |
| ogra_ | *break | 10:15 |
| ogra_ | as i said yesterday, we might need a new alternative for something like "system-compositor-lib" or some such to solve that cleanly | 10:16 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, in "Builds" of the adminstration tab just check the "Upgrade" products, type in the version no. and choose the correct milestone | 10:16 |
| mlankhorst | Riddell: I think you need to move wayland-egl out from mesa-egl dir | 10:16 |
| mlankhorst | if it's a generic support library that works regardless of egl implementation | 10:17 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: ^^ got it, after some trips :) | 10:20 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, um, I think you better alter Lubuntu's upgrade build | 10:20 |
| smartboyhw | Since I saw an Lubuntu message in there | 10:20 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: yeah I removed it again | 10:20 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, good:) | 10:21 |
| mlankhorst | oh right I don't need newer binutils, it was just used for -fuse-ld=gold in link flags | 10:22 |
| ogra_ | hmm, i merged initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch and ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd ... which results in initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch producing a new binary, shouldnt it get stuck in NEW due to that ? | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | (i dont see it in the NEW queue) | 12:03 |
| cjwatson | Not if the same binary was already in the archive from another source package. | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | ok | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | great ! | 12:04 |
| * ogra_ files a removal bug for the ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd source then | 12:04 | |
| ogra_ | bug 1220218 for any archive admin around | 12:08 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1220218 in ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd (Ubuntu) "please remove the ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd source package from the archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220218 | 12:08 |
| ogra_ | stgraber, ^^^ since it makes your life easier :) | 12:09 |
| cyphermox | Laney: hey :) | 12:30 |
| Laney | cyphermox: hi, was at lunch | 13:06 |
| Laney | If it's about NM it is due to the beta freeze | 13:06 |
| cyphermox | Laney: hey ;) | 13:06 |
| cyphermox | yeah, just making sure | 13:06 |
| Laney | well, that and the fact that adt-britney is incorrectly saying that the test fails | 13:06 |
| cyphermox | well, it used to fail | 13:06 |
| Laney | sure but the latest one is ok | 13:07 |
| Laney | cyphermox: anyway, do you need it now or is tomorrow OK? | 13:07 |
| cyphermox | asap would be better, this is stuff for the phone, but I wouldn't feel OK telling you to override things like this, let me check with others | 13:08 |
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| tumbleweed | is something broken with Debian imports atm? | 13:19 |
| seb128 | tumbleweed, what debian imports? | 13:19 |
| tumbleweed | the debian archive gets imported into LP | 13:19 |
| cjwatson | tumbleweed: The relevant machine was only just recovered after a failure that required physical intervention | 13:19 |
| tumbleweed | aah, thanks | 13:19 |
| cjwatson | tumbleweed: And I don't think the cron job has run yet | 13:20 |
| cjwatson | But it's up | 13:20 |
| cjwatson | (i.e. I can rsync logs off it) | 13:20 |
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| smartboyhw | ^ It's me, all the testcases passed, so don't be surprised that I marked it so early | 14:15 |
| zul | ^^^ Can I get an archive admin to review python-dogpile.cache and python-dogpile.core please they are new build deps for keystone | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | xnox, why would removing the old source pakcage require any changes in phablet.u.c ? i hope you only use the binary | 15:05 |
| xnox | ogra_: if binary simply moved to a different source package, it should be fine. I didn't realise that. | 15:07 |
| infinity | mlankhorst: That binutils versioned build-dep is probably bogus, but the -fuse-ld=gold will need to be backed out. I might just do that in saucy too, so you can backport unmangled. | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | xnox, right, else i would have not filed the removal bug yet :) | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | and committed goit changes first | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | *git | 15:08 |
| xnox | ogra_: ok, cool =) | 15:08 |
| infinity | * only build android-tools-adbd on armhf, i386 and amd64 until powerpc | 15:15 |
| infinity | tablets and phones show up on teh market. | 15:15 |
| infinity | ogra_: ^-- Why that abritrary restriction? | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | infinity, because itr FTBFS ... there was a fix from lool later that makes it build | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | probably the Architecture field wasnt updated along ? | 15:16 |
| infinity | ogra_: The changelog might have wanted to say that, then, not the other. :P | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | it saidf exacvtly what i uploaded at that point | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | well, modulo mentioning FTBFS | 15:17 |
| lool | infinity: BTW it should be almost syncable | 15:17 |
| infinity | No, I mean, it should say "disable because it's broken" not some nonsensical "disable because devices don't exist". | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | lool, ? | 15:17 |
| lool | infinity: haven't rechecked in the last month or so | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | i thought it was synced ages ago | 15:17 |
| lool | infinity: at some point, Debian version was just missing testing from either ogra or rsalveti | 15:17 |
| lool | ogra_: was it? | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | lool, i thought so, but i might be wrong | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | (i dont think i have looked at that package since this upload above) | 15:18 |
| infinity | Of course, that FTBFS being fixed wouldn't help now, since it now depends on libhybris-utils, which is only on 3 arches. | 15:18 |
| infinity | For similar odd reasons, I'm guessing? | 15:18 |
| ogra_ | likely | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | libhybris needs android headers i think | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | well, thought utils probably doesnt | 15:19 |
| infinity | Meh. Too much to unwind right now. | 15:21 |
| infinity | ogra_: All this boils down to "initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch should be arch-restricted". | 15:21 |
| infinity | (Or the whole stack it depends on shouldn't be) | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | infinity, the binary it produces is armhf | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | the script package it produces was supposed to be arch all but that didnt work out thanks to launchpad | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | bug 1063188 | 15:22 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1063188 in Launchpad itself "Launchpad doesn't try to build the "all" packages if i386 isn't in the Architecture field" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1063188 | 15:22 |
| infinity | ogra_: Okay, but it produces a powerpc.deb that depends on something that can't be installed. I'm not sure I need the history why. :P | 15:23 |
| * infinity just fixes. | 15:23 | |
| ogra_ | oh | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | heh, i totally didnt get your point | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | yeah fix away+ | 15:24 |
| lool | infinity: I just did a quick grep in hybris to see how arch specific it was, and it does indeed seem to have specific linker code for ARM, x86 and some SH code; like ELF fields and types; I'm not sure whether we want to invest in porting to powerpc | 15:44 |
| infinity | lool: Yeah, not deeply concerned. It's something I could poke at when I'm bored some day. For now, I just arch-restricted the thing that was depending on it. | 15:45 |
| mdeslaur | Laney: nas is stuck in -proposed, reason says "Not touching package due to block request by laney (contact #ubuntu-release if update is needed) " | 15:52 |
| mdeslaur | Laney: could you push it? | 15:53 |
| Laney | mdeslaur: yep | 15:53 |
| mdeslaur | Laney: thanks | 15:53 |
| mlankhorst | infinity: heh.. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/149247846/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.mesa-lts-saucy_9.2-1ubuntu1~~2ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz llvm-3.3 has a dependency on zlib1g-dev? :P | 15:57 |
| infinity | mlankhorst: That -lz is coming from llvm, not mesa? | 16:01 |
| mlankhorst | infinity: hm good question, more digging is needed | 16:04 |
| mlankhorst | infinity: positive :p | 16:06 |
| mlankhorst | ~$ llvm-config-3.3 --ldflags | 16:06 |
| mlankhorst | -L/usr/lib/llvm-3.3/lib -lz -lpthread -lffi -lrt -ldl -lm | 16:06 |
| mlankhorst | hm weird | 16:07 |
| mlankhorst | it doesn't link it on saucy | 16:07 |
| mlankhorst | meh nm then, I'll just add zlib1g-dev to the backported llvm-toolchain | 16:08 |
| mlankhorst | sorry for the noise :) | 16:12 |
| mlankhorst | *gone* | 16:12 |
| slangasek | Laney: for my edification, what/where's the script that's used for assembling the freeze block list? Does it look at ubuntukylin at all currently? | 16:30 |
| Laney | slangasek: It's just something I threw together, and it's supposed to | 16:30 |
| Laney | I can pastebin it if you'll be nice. :-) | 16:30 |
| Laney | There are some kylin things in the block so I believe it is at least partially working for that purpose | 16:31 |
| Laney | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6059440/ | 16:31 |
| Laney | Seems Edubuntu and Lubuntu alternates are missing test results | 17:16 |
| Laney | If we can get those and the other remaining in over the UK night then we should be able to do B1 quite early tomorrow, all being well | 17:17 |
| * Laney goes away for a bit, SMS me if the world ends or anything | 17:18 | |
| jbicha | Laney: but tomorrow's Wednesday? | 17:25 |
| infinity | Days of the week are confusing. | 17:26 |
| skaet | jbicha, release is scheduled for Thursday | 17:26 |
| adam_g | can someone please nack that misdirected dput ^ | 17:57 |
| slangasek | adam_g: looking | 18:01 |
| slangasek | adam_g: done | 18:01 |
| adam_g | slangasek, thanks | 18:01 |
| xnox | Laney: highvoltage: cjwatson: jbicha: For the bug 1218175 I have now implemented package split: ubuntuone plugin is in a separate package, which can be seeded / unseeded as needed. | 19:33 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1218175 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "u1: Allow Ubuntu flavors to opt out of U1 feature" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1218175 | 19:33 |
| xnox | not sure if you want this uploading, as the plugin will need to go through new and seeds will need to be adjusted. | 19:35 |
| jbicha | xnox: a separate package won't work for Edubuntu | 19:37 |
| xnox | jbicha: yes it will. ubiquity-frontend-gtk does not depend on it. it needs explicit seed, and i believe you can blacklist / negate install in the seed. | 19:37 |
| xnox | jbicha: ubuntu-desktop will not depend on that plugin. | 19:38 |
| jbicha | ok | 19:38 |
| slangasek | that aside, I would be surprised if the edubuntu folks would actually want to maintain a delta with the Ubuntu Desktop wrt such features of the installer (regardless of whether they're personally happy with those features) | 19:39 |
| xnox | slangasek: well edubuntu did request to remove that plugin, and they have their own custom plugins in ubiquity already (for task selection, server install & config, etc.) | 21:13 |
| slangasek | xnox: ok. Hadn't seen that request from edubuntu, and only the G+ post was referenced above | 21:14 |
| stgraber | slangasek: we already maintain a delta to drop the shopping lens and drop the amazon and ubuntuone launcher entries by default as we don't think any of those are suitable for our target audience. | 21:14 |
| slangasek | alright | 21:15 |
| slangasek | (pff, what's wrong with having the kids shopping while at school ;) | 21:15 |
| stgraber | :) | 21:15 |
| xnox | stgraber: separate package would work, for edubuntu seeds right? (negating / blacklisting from the cd?!) | 21:20 |
| stgraber | xnox: sure, we could just have edubuntu-live conflict with it then | 21:21 |
| stgraber | xnox: so ubiquity could recommend that package (but not depends or the conflict would make ubiquity go away) | 21:21 |
| xnox | stgraber: no, ubiquity will not recommend it. | 21:22 |
| slangasek | you aren't really meant to use conflicts in seeds, though, and blacklists in seeds only result in failures when those packages show up - they don't work for the actual exclusion | 21:22 |
| xnox | stgraber: it should be explicitly seeded, which will happen for ubuntu-live / kylin for example | 21:22 |
| slangasek | just not depending on it is better, which seems to be the plan | 21:22 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: so bug #1219589 is getting some static regarding getting the UbuntuHashes page updated. The ubuntu-docs team doesn't seem to actually have access to update the darn thing. Who does / how should we know who does? (checklist page points the finger at ubuntu-docs currently) | 21:23 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1219589 in ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso md5sum missing from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1219589 | 21:23 |
| slangasek | sarnold: ^^ ;) | 22:15 |
| sarnold | slangasek: ah! :) thanks :) | 22:16 |
| czajkowski | infinity: ping a ling | 22:20 |
| czajkowski | infinity: I swear if I broke LP and builds you'd appear :) | 22:21 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: could you have a look at update-manager in the raring proposed queue? | 23:04 |
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| jbicha_ | phillw: I think your release announcement yesterday is easy to misinterpret, see http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2013/09/beta-1-is-out.html | 23:56 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: update-manager-0.186.2/tags seems to be some added cruft in the upload? | 23:58 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: not sure if you want to reupload to fix | 23:58 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: yeah, I'll reupload | 23:59 |
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