[08:49] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Welsh Rarebit Day! :-D
[14:02] <Vonor> hi. i keep googling for it, but only ever find old sites from 2012 and older or nothing at all. i have u1 and so far i quite like it. but, the fact that other distros don't have it in their main repos makes me want to mount it without the client. i found one lounchpad post about webdav implementation, which is also quite old by now and where ubuntu folks kept saying it's an idea they plan to implement.
[14:03] <Vonor> well, how's the status of the implementation or are there any other ways of mounting ubuntu one? devfs2? s3fs? a fuse module? anything that does not require the ubuntu one client and can be added to the fstab?
[14:13] <karni> Vonor: I don't recall a way to mount U1. Although, there was an ftp client written by aquarius. And a simple CLI interface written by me.
[14:14] <karni> I recall nothing about webdav, but someone else from U1 team might. Hang on here for a bit, someone might answer your question.
[14:20] <ralsina> There is no webdav support, sorry
[14:25] <Vonor> karni: the ftp client seems a bit "without use" if you ask me. cuz i need an ubuntu one client anyways and the ftp client just simulates an ftp server so i can mount the u1 share as a network drive on windows
[14:26] <Vonor> ralsina: must not neccessarily be webdav, any other protocol any linux box will understand would work too. heck, if it was smbfs, nfs, sshfs or whatever else doesn't even matter :)
[14:27] <ralsina> Vonor: no good answer to that, sorry
[14:28] <karni> Vonor: no you don't. the ftp client *is* a U1 REST API client.
[14:28] <karni> Vonor: http://kryogenix.org/days/2012/09/11/accessing-ubuntu-one-file-storage-via-ftp-from-any-os
[14:30] <karni> Vonor: hope that helps!
[14:37] <Vonor> karni: http://pastebin.ca/2442950
[14:39] <karni> Vonor: You'll need to contact the author.
[14:39] <Vonor> karni: what about the cli interface you mentioned?
[14:40] <karni> Vonor: the ftp one is much better. here's the cli one lp:~karni/ubuntuone-files-java-library/cli-ubuntuone
[14:41] <karni> Vonor: https://code.launchpad.net/~karni/ubuntuone-files-java-library/cli-ubuntuone
[14:45] <alecu> Vonor: that "invalid syntax" error happens because the script must be for python 2, and you are running it with python 3
[14:47] <Extreminador> hi guys
[14:48] <Extreminador> i was traying to register my self at https://login.ubuntu.com/+new_account but it gave me a error
[14:48] <Extreminador>  Sorry, something just went wrong in Ubuntu One.
[14:48] <Extreminador> We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience.
[14:49] <Extreminador> after this i have as well an "OOPS ID" if needed... is this a usualy error and it's being fixed or...
[14:49] <Vonor> alecu: thanks, sometimes i'm blind, could have seen that myself :P
[14:50] <alecu> :-)
[14:50] <alecu> nessita: do you have any idea about Extreminador's issue?
[14:51] <nessita> alecu, reading backlog
[14:51] <Vonor> however, logging in doesn't work. here's the output from the script using 2 login attempts...and no, i didn't type the PW wrong :P http://pastebin.ca/2442957
[14:51] <nessita> Extreminador, we're having an issue we're working right now, is about to be fixed in 15'
[14:52] <Extreminador> nessita thanks... take your time i have no hurry
[14:52] <nessita> Extreminador, we do have so much hurry ;-)
[14:52] <nessita> fix is on its way to servers, should be fixed and stabilized in 10-15'
[14:52] <Extreminador> cool...
[14:53] <Vonor> nessita: working in an IT support myself i know what "we're having so much hurry" usually refers to. Joke :)
[14:54] <Extreminador> humm ... well if it was a joke sorry... english is not my primary language, guess language barrier can broke jokes
[14:55] <Vonor> nessita: customer "urgent need this and that, no clue how" what they really mean is "i need it instantly, i know how to do it, i just can't be arsed" what we read out of it "take your time folks, it's just good ol' me that's bugging you again" :)
[14:55] <Extreminador> loool
[14:56] <Extreminador> true... many people whats the things at that exact time with no "stop" sign...
[14:56] <Vonor> Extreminador: my above comment was meant as a joke, not what nessita said. i imagine if he says the fix is on the way, then it is on the way :)
[14:57] <nessita> :-0
[14:57] <nessita> :-)
[14:57] <nessita> Vonor, Extreminador we have just deployed the fix, could you please confirm it works for you?
[14:57] <Vonor> the folks things we have a million employees in the technical support who are all bored and just wait for this one customer to shout over "need a file uploaded"...seriously, just had this case, customer wrote 4 emails to us just to get one file uploaded...
[14:58] <Extreminador> nessita i will... a sec please
[14:58] <nessita> sure
[14:59] <Extreminador> well nessita it said now An Ubuntu One account already exists with this email.
[14:59] <Vonor> nessita: if the issue is related to the ftp client issue, then its not fixed, still getting the login error. lemme try on my ubuntu vm with the native client
[14:59] <Extreminador> sow i guess i will try to log in or recover password
[15:02] <Extreminador> nessita i have manage to log in indeed
[15:03] <Extreminador> but one of the steps did nor work very good
[15:03] <Vonor> nessita: on ubuntu with u1 client: right mouse button menu -> ubuntu one has no options for me (all disabled). upload works, publishing through the website works also
[15:03] <Extreminador> i have receive a email with a confirmation code and two ways to activate it
[15:03] <nessita> Vonor, ok, issues with the u1 client will have to be asked to alecu, the fix we just deployed is at server level
[15:04] <Extreminador> one using the link on the email and the other using the link that was already open to put the confirmation code and the email
[15:04] <Extreminador> that second way did not works ... it wa saying confirmation code wrong or something
[15:04] <Extreminador> after i did try to link on th email address and t works
[15:04] <Vonor> odd enough, i create a new file in the shared folder and get the publish option, with an existing file i have that option disabled
[15:08] <Vonor> nessita: question regarding the server and the protocol. does it internally recognize symlinks? if yes, would it be possible to implement this for the users too? example of usage would be to have a several folders with files and you got one folder called "Public" which you want to use to publish files. now it'd be a waste of space if i have the file twice, so instead i would just create a symlink in the public folder and share this. this way i have an o
[15:11] <nessita> Vonor, the sentence was cut off at "this way i have an o", but I think I understand the question
[15:12] <nessita> Vonor, the client ignores symlinks intentionally, and do not sync them
[15:12] <Vonor> this way i have an overview which files i have published without wasting  precious space :)
[15:13] <nessita> Vonor, not sure if what I said answes your question. If not, let me know ;-)
[15:13] <Vonor> nessita: no i mean actually having symlinks within u1. as in have the option to "create symlink" in the u1 client. is why i asked if the server recognizes them
[15:16] <nessita> Vonor, syncing symlinks is a really complicated task (can expand on this if you like). But specifically to your question: the server side does not do any special treatment for symlinks, that means, the server does not inspect files to see if they are sylinks or regular files (the protocol just uploads "bytes")
[15:16] <nessita> the decision of not syncing symlinks on the client comes from:
[15:16] <nessita> * what would you sync, the symlink itself alone, or the file that is pointed by the symlink?
[15:17] <nessita> * if the former, how do you replicate symlinks in other clients? (ie, what if the target does not exist in other device)
[15:17] <nessita> * what happens with devices that do not support symlinks? (windows)
[15:17] <nessita> etc
[15:46] <ralsina> nessita: windows supports symlinks (just nitpicking, though)
[15:46] <Vonor> nessita: i think we are still talking to different directions.
[15:48] <Vonor> nessita: i mean having one file in ubuntu one (already on the server) and wanting the same file in a different folder (in my example: Public) also on the server. so instead of duplicating the file and thus wasting space it'd be cooler to create a symlink on the server, so that /Public/file1 actually accesses /private/file1
[15:49] <Vonor> nessita: this way i could have several different "private" folders and one public folder and have an easy overview on what i have shared with others
[16:15] <nessita> Vonor, I see. There is no support for that, and there is no plans to add that anytime soon
[16:18] <Vonor> nessita: alright. perhaps make a note on that though. would be cool to have that feature someday :-)