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xubuntu569My dvd drive that used to burn dvd-r's just fine will no longer recognize a blank dvd-r. Can anyone help me? Any help would be greatly appreciated.02:42
w30xubuntu569, you are going to have fun unless you can figure out what changed.02:58
w30xubuntu569, does the dvd drive work ok for reading data dvd's and for playing videos and songs.02:59
xubuntu569I'm sure I will. I've already spent alot of time on the googles but no luck so far. Yes the drive does work for reading DVD's.03:00
w30you have only one cd/dvd drive?03:00
xubuntu569This is correct. Only 1 dvd/cd drive.03:01
nagevforgive me for asking obvious, have you tried a different blank disk?03:02
w30xubuntu569, does it work with a live xubuntu cd boot?03:02
xubuntu569nagev, I have tried a different blank disk of the same type. w30, I have used a live cd before, not recently though.03:05
w30Does anyone know if xubuntu live cd can run entirely in memory so the cd drive is freed up for usage?03:06
w30I don't remember if that is an option?03:07
Unit193w30: When booting off the live CD, there will be a little icon at the bottom, hit left shift.  At the next menu, hit F6 then Esc, and type toram03:07
Unit193(Type toram into the input box at the bottom, that is.)03:07
w30xubuntu569, try what Unit193 says and see if the dvd drive recognizes a blank dvd with a live xubuntu boot.03:09
xubuntu569Ok. If it does work what does that mean? Should I do a reinstall then?03:10
crytownFor the past month my update manager has been frozen. It says i have 7 new updates but they won't install and theres no description or filesize for them. My update manager icon is red. Is there a way to repair this?03:11
w30xubuntu569, maybe you can boot an old kernel if you have any and see if you are a victim of a kernel change.03:12
crytowni have no idea how to do that i hope thats not the issue. only thing i remember chnaging was updating xfce so i can have dual monitor support03:12
crytownand that wasnt a stable release but has been working03:13
xubuntu569crytown, I think that was meant for me. w30 so if an older kernel works I would just have to run an older kernel then huh?03:15
w30xubuntu569, not necessarily if it works check your device names, drivers, maybe?03:15
Unit193crytown: Could always update via terminal,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgradae03:15
Unit193(But spell that last part right.)03:15
w30xubuntu569, at least it would eliminate a hardware issue03:17
xubuntu569w30, ok. I will try that. Thanks for your help.03:19
w30xubuntu569, you need the right permissions to use the cd/dvd. Those shouldn't change on their own though.03:20
w30xubuntu569, you could always run your burner app as gksu sfburn or whatever.03:21
xubuntu569w30, yeah that's one of the things I found on google. It still doesn't work with sudo or gksudo though.03:21
w30xubuntu569, hmmmmnn...03:22
xubuntu569w30, Well I will try the live-cd and kernel things you mentioned. I appreciate your help. Thanks.03:28
crytownsorry i forgot i had this open i think i tried it through terminal with no luck will try again and report back. thanks03:29
crytownworking so far03:32
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lnostdalhi,      "xubuntu-desktop : Depends: software-center but it is not going to be installed" ...   guys; no; the xubuntu desktop does not "depend on" software-center .. ..10:59
knomelnostdal, yes it does.11:00
lnostdalwhy always depend depend ..   just recommend ..      recommended dependencies are installed by default11:00
lnostdalno it doesn't11:00
knomethat's not how the seeds are built11:00
knomelnostdal, xubuntu-desktop is a metapackage; feel free to remove it11:00
lnostdalthe what? ..     no; meta-packages are useful – but less so when they are not flexible11:01
lnostdalanyway ..   i've said what i wanted to say ..  EOD .... tooodles11:01
xubuntu149Hi to everybody11:48
knomehello.11:48
xubuntu149Can anybody help me how to add russian layout in xubuntu11:48
xubuntu149I need 2 keyboard languages rus and eng11:50
xubuntu149I can't find how to add11:50
lderanyou might be after xfce4-xkb-plugin11:51
lderanif its not installed already, then you can install it with 'sudo apt-get install xfce4-xkb-plugin'11:51
xubuntu149installed latest ver11:52
xubuntu149maybe this will help I made migration from Ubuntu to Xubuntu11:53
xubuntu149Ubuntu I removed11:54
xubuntu149by terminal command11:54
xubuntu149in Ubuntu was no problem to add russian layout but in Xubuntu I can't find where I can do this11:55
lderanthink it adds a little flag symbol to the panel, you might have to add it manually. Sorry I can't be of much help at the moment11:56
lderando you know how to add stuff to the panels?11:57
xubuntu149This little flag I have at logon screen there I can see 2 input languages but when I login in to my desktop there is no this one12:01
xubuntu149I found Thnx12:02
xubuntu149I added12:02
xubuntu149now need only setup hotkeys to change language now is only changing by clicking of mouse on it12:03
xubuntu149After windows it's little bit difficult to understand everythig in xubuntu :)12:07
xubuntu149solved12:11
xubuntu149 <lderan> Thnx12:12
lderanwoo \o/12:12
SakrecoerHi! I have set up a netboot using bootp and tftpd-hda. I cannot get the target machine out on internet yet, hence i have set up an apache that serves a mounted version of xubuntu-12.04.3-alternate-i386.iso ... Once the target has identified the custom mirror, i get a message telling me there is a missmatch between the version of the netboot and the cdimage.... any one knows what version i need? My machine supportes PAE15:08
Sakrecoerthe missmatch, allows me to install the system, but without a function kernel...15:09
Sakrecoersorry *without a functioning kernel*15:10
Sakrecoerno matter howmui can't find a 12.04.2 version... nor 12.0415:12
Sakrecoer*how much15:12
Sakrecoer* i search15:13
Sakrecoerhehe.... man.. i type iznogood today...15:13
GridCubeSakrecoer, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/15:15
Sakrecoeri have actualy tried with a 12.04.2 i still had.. it gave me the same error...15:16
GridCubehttp://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/releases/15:16
Sakrecoerhmm.... is it sort of mandatory to use the mini.iso for netbooting with xubuntu 12.04?15:17
GridCubepretty much yes15:17
HundI missed Xubuntu <3 http://fav.me/d6kvja415:19
Sakrecoerhehe.... bad moment to ask a question :)15:19
Sakrecoeryeah.. all those links lead to 12.04.3 ..15:21
Sakrecoerthanks!15:21
Sakrecoer:)15:21
Sakrecoermaybe oh there!! old-release15:21
Sakrecoerso... having tried with 12.04.3 and 12.04.2, i'm guessing it should be 12.04, unless the issue is something else... :)15:22
Sakrecoeri'll let you know how it went!15:22
GridCubeHund, :D submit it to xubuntu-showcase.deviantart.com :D15:22
GridCubeif you change your image licence to CC and you have a wallpaper under CC we can showcase it on the xubuntu.org website, Hund :D15:23
xJamiehey guys.15:36
xJamieIs lxnm worth using or should I use a different one?15:36
SakrecoerGridCube: earlier you said: "pretty much yes"... but i didn't get if it was "yes, the mini.iso is mandatory for netboot" or "yes its a bad moment to ask questions" :D16:29
Sakrecoerthe folder structure is so confusing for the netboot packages...16:29
Sakrecoeri've tried all xubuntu 12.04.x iso... all of them missmatch the netboot's kernel expectations...16:30
Sakrecoeroh...16:32
Sakrecoerwell...16:32
GridCubeSakrecoer, i meant that i dont know how else you could install from a netboot except from an alternate iso, and as xubuntu doesnt have any alternate iso anymore16:32
Sakrecoeri picked wrong arichtecture last one...16:33
GridCubeSakrecoer, you can't get the iso to the machine? boot from usb?16:33
Sakrecoeri give it another try...16:33
Sakrecoerslowly losing hope...17:10
Sakrecoernow i have tried all versions 12.04.x and none match the netboot... :(17:10
Sysitry the original one, before point releases?17:11
Sakrecoeri've used this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet and everything, except the kernel version missmatch is working... i just don't get it...17:11
Sakrecoeri've been looking into using the mini.iso .. but the howto is really obscure...17:14
Sakrecoerna well.... judging the silence here today i guess it was ment for me to travel alone on this steep road to computerjoy! :D17:15
elfySakrecoer: try this for the mini iso http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal17:16
phantomfavhi guys, i have a little problem with nautilus, can someone help me?17:19
elfyyou can ask - but many of us will be using thunar as this is xubuntu channel17:20
phantomfavyes, but i really hate thunar and xfdisplay17:20
phantomfavso i have decided to install nautilus17:21
phantomfavthe file manager works great17:21
elfy!aask17:21
elfy!aask17:21
elfy!ask17:21
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:21
elfylol17:21
phantomfavthe desktop manager (lanuched with "nautilus -n") doesn't start17:22
phantomfavany idea?17:22
phantomfavi have killed all the process bind to xfdisplay17:23
phantomfavso now no process manage the desktop17:24
phantomfavbut if i do "nautilus -n" it doesn't start17:24
Sysiwith xfdisplay, do you mean xfdesktop?17:25
phantomfavyes, i mistake the name17:25
Sysiyou need to remove it from session with session settings, killing it makes it respawn17:25
phantomfavyes i already do that17:25
phantomfavi remove it from the session17:26
phantomfavand saved the actual session17:26
phantomfavnow in my session there are: xfwm4, xfce4-panel, xfsettingsd, xfce4-terminal17:27
phantomfavbut not xfdesktop nor nautilus17:27
phantomfavThis is my question: i have installed nautilus in xubuntu, the file manager works great, but the desktop manager doesn't starts ("nautilus -n") even if i have closed the process xfdesktop in the session, anyone know how to force start nautilus for the desktop?17:33
brainwashphantomfav: does "nautilus -n" terminate immediately when executed in a terminal window?17:49
brainwashand does a right-click on the desktop pop up any menu?17:50
yeyemanIs there a way to fix the tearing?17:51
phantomfavnautilus terminate after few second17:51
phantomfavand right click doesn't show up anything17:51
yeyemanwhile watching video there's tearing in the middle of the screen17:51
brainwashyeyeman: use a window manager with opengl compositing or a separate compositor (like compton), maybe it's even possible to activate some sort of "tear free" (gpu driver specific)17:54
brainwashphantomfav: looks like some issue with nautilus, so this isn't the right channel I guess, try asking in #ubuntu17:55
phantomfavok, thanks17:56
brainwashyeyeman: some sort of "tear free" mode I mean, something the intel driver offers for example17:57
Sysidisabling compositing from window manager tweaks works18:14
pmjdebruijnbtqw18:16
pmjdebruijnbtw18:16
pmjdebruijnI have a newer Intel driver backported here https://launchpad.net/~pmjdebruijn/+archive/xserver-xorg-video-intel-testing18:16
pmjdebruijnuse at own risk though18:16
pitlaloosehi18:16
pmjdebruijnlo18:17
pitlaloosei'm looking for some help :) because i'm getting stuck while installing.18:19
pitlalooseCan someone help me please ?18:19
Sakrecoeranybody has experience in installing xubuntu alternate with netboot?18:19
pmjdebruijnplease describe your problem with some details, if somebody knows, they'll respond... keep in mind not body keeps an eye on the channel at all times, so please be patient18:20
Sakrecoerpitaloose: perhaps i can. what is going on?18:20
pmjdebruijnSakrecoer: for netboo you're probably stuck with the ubuntu server install, and apting xubuntu-desktop afterwards18:20
Sakrecoerpmjdebruijn: server up and running...18:21
pmjdebruijnI meant on the client18:21
Sakrecoeri have issue with a missmatch between kernel of xubuntu12.04.x.iso and kernel of netboot18:21
pmjdebruijnsince netinstall depends on the debian-installer which last I checked was only available on the server install18:21
Sakrecoeraaaah18:21
Sakrecoernow i see what you meen...18:21
pmjdebruijnemphasis on last time I checked18:21
pmjdebruijn12.04.2 has the quantal 3.5 kernel backported and 12.04.3 has the raring 3.8 kernel backported18:22
Sakrecoerit sure dose boot after install, but like you say in server mode...18:22
pmjdebruijn12.0.4.1 was the last to _SHIP_ with the original 3.2 series18:22
pmjdebruijnIIRC18:22
pmjdebruijnSakrecoer: that's totally expected18:23
Sakrecoerso..... are you suggesting that the kernel is there, but i only miss the dektop?18:23
pmjdebruijnhuh?18:23
pmjdebruijnno?18:23
pmjdebruijnthere is no real difference between server and client on linux18:23
yeyemanhmm!!18:23
pmjdebruijnit's just having X11 or not18:24
pmjdebruijnso it's just a package selection thing essentially18:24
pmjdebruijnhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/xubuntu-desktop18:24
pmjdebruijnany particular reason why you want to netinstall a desktop in the first place?18:24
pmjdebruijnpitlaloose: if you don't describe your problem there really isn't any way we can help you18:26
pmjdebruijnwe're not psychic18:26
pitlaloosethank you. i'm installing from an iso on my hard drive(/dev/sda3), got the desktop after using grub cli, running well. I launch the installer, go through it18:26
pmjdebruijn:)18:26
pmjdebruijnwait18:26
pitlalooselol, i' slow sorry18:26
pmjdebruijn"an iso on your harddrive"?18:26
pmjdebruijnplease describe that in a bite more detail18:27
pmjdebruijnwhat did you do exactly18:27
pitlalooseyep i can't use disk on this machine18:27
pmjdebruijnyou installed from a CD to an USB disk?18:28
pmjdebruijnor what?18:28
pmjdebruijnagain please describe with more detail18:28
Sakrecoerhmm.... i'm lagging like i'm on mars...18:29
pitlalooseso i had formatted my drive in 3 (swap, part for xubuntu and a fat to store my iso copied there on another machine18:29
pmjdebruijnok, that's very atypical18:29
pmjdebruijnbut I think I'm there with you18:30
pitlalooseas i had another drive with grub, i managed to boot this iso18:30
pmjdebruijnok18:30
pmjdebruijnand on the desktop you run the installer...18:30
pitlalooseexactly18:30
pmjdebruijnand then...18:30
pitlaloosebut then in the end18:31
pitlalooseit says "detecting file systems"18:31
pmjdebruijnin the installer?18:31
pitlalooseand hang on it for hours18:31
pmjdebruijnwell, it's not really been designed for the case you're working with it18:31
pitlalooseyep at the end of the process18:31
pmjdebruijnso I'm not really surprised you might have hit a bug there18:32
pmjdebruijnany reason why not to install the live-iso to a USB drive, and do an install the regular way?18:32
pitlalooseusb won't work on thismobo18:32
bazhangbooting an iso via grub to use the installer?18:32
pitlaloose*usb bootable stick18:33
pmjdebruijnand installing to the same disk you've booted off18:33
Sakrecoerhaha... days like that... when no robots want to execute and all connections are lagging ... :D18:33
bazhangyeah, that wont work18:33
pmjdebruijnpitlaloose: how old is it?18:33
pitlaloosethat's it18:33
Sakrecoernow i got your answers pmjdebruijn18:33
Sakrecoerthanks a million.18:33
pitlaloose7-8 year18:33
pmjdebruijnpitlaloose: then are you really sure it can't boot off usb?18:33
pmjdebruijnanyway? maybe burn a CD/DVD then?18:34
pmjdebruijnSakrecoer: I'm not very experienced with netinstall either, so I'm basically just doing educated guesses :)18:34
pitlaloosemaybe i've missed something but i tried a few hours reading the mobo'sman18:34
pmjdebruijnwhich motherboard?18:35
Sakrecoerits very nice of you pmjdebruijn18:35
Sakrecoeri need it because the target computers have no other booting possibilities...18:35
pmjdebruijnpitlaloose: ?18:36
pitlalooseyep18:36
pitlalooseP4VMM218:36
Sakrecoerthey wont boot usb, and i don't have any removable media that could be connected18:38
pmjdebruijnpitlaloose: hmmm ok... I guess you're limited to doing CD/DVD installs then18:38
pmjdebruijnSakrecoer: they have no cd/dvd drives?18:38
pmjdebruijnanyhow, I gotta run...  good luck to both of you18:40
Sakrecoerno... its 2 tabletPC..18:40
Sakrecoerthey have possibility to hook up a firewire cd-rom but i wont bother with buying one...18:41
Sakrecoertahnks a milion !18:41
Sakrecoerenjoy AFK!18:41
pitlaloosethank u18:41
xubuntu978hello20:07
xubuntu978i need help..20:07
xubuntu978:/20:07
Maple__er20:07
knome!ask | xubuntu97820:07
ubottuxubuntu978: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:07
Maple__what with?20:07
xubuntu978how to install tar.gz? :(20:08
Maple__You don't.20:08
xubuntu978what? :? I want install utorrent20:08
Maple__Open a terminal, 'cd' into the directory in question (by default, you're in /home/dashie/)20:08
xubuntu978yes20:09
xubuntu978after that?20:09
Maple__xubuntu978, FYI, Xubuntu comes with it's own bittorrent client, Transmission; a more functional client's in the repos, known as 'Deluge' and can be installe dwith sudo apt-get install deluge20:09
Maple__xubuntu978, tar -xvzf <tarball>.tar.gz20:09
Maple__check the README/INSTALL files if they exist.20:09
knomexubuntu978, as Maple__ said, xubuntu ships a torrent client already. are you sure that or any of the other applications in the repositories do not fit you?20:09
Maple__What sort of functionality are you seeking? It might be easier just to use a BT client that's already in the repositories/packaged.20:10
xubuntu978I need very utorrent :( I don't see readme ir install files20:10
knomexubuntu978, is there a specific reason you need utorrent?20:10
xubuntu978I using this soft about 5 years...20:11
Maple__...and what functionality do you need?20:12
knomexubuntu978, most torrent applications are alike20:12
Maple__Hmm, it looks like mutorrent for linux is a command-line version only.20:12
xubuntu978Not only utorrent need , I can't install sublime text2 alsow..20:12
Maple__If you want a GUI, try Transmission or install another client from the repos.20:12
Maple__hmm20:12
Maple__you can use the sublime text 2 ppa20:13
Maple__sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-2 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sublime-text20:13
xubuntu978thank you maple!!20:15
xubuntu978you are the best!!!20:15
Maple__np xubuntu97820:15
xubuntu978sorry for my english skils..20:16
xubuntu978but I have one questions20:16
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xubuntu978I can't understand, why I can't install utorrent whit sudo ?20:17
knomexubuntu978, if you don't understand what a .tar.gz package is, you shouldn't try to install it20:17
xubuntu978why? I am new linux user20:18
xubuntu978yet..20:18
knomexubuntu978, .tar.gz is a compressed file (just like .zip-files are), and there is no single method of installing such "packages"20:18
xubuntu978thank you!20:19
knomeno problem20:19
knomehope you'll find a suitable torrent application from the repositories (and i'm sure you will)20:19
Unit193!software20:19
ubottuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents20:19
xubuntu978knome, what soft you can recommend with torrents file?20:21
knomexubuntu978, depends on what you are after. for a simple one, try transmission (installed by default in xubuntu)20:22
Unit193As said above, transmission comes pre-installed, but there's also many others.20:22
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