| ScottK | Riddell: the newer sip4 is known to break pykde. it's mostly pykde's fault, but no fix available AFAIK. To avoid it, sip4 needs a ~really downgrade, but the means python-qt4 and pyqt5 need downgrading too since they require the newer sip4. | 02:32 |
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| soee | good morning | 06:16 |
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| Riddell | still lots of beta 1 testing needed, that i386 won't run itself :) | 10:32 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, unfortunately, I'm syncing the Ubuntu Studio 13.04 amd64 image down for upgrade testing, and I only have the Kubuntu amd64 image handy here. So can't help, sorry | 10:35 |
| marcuspbaird | hello | 10:39 |
| marcuspbaird | are you looking for testers | 10:39 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, yes we are | 10:39 |
| marcuspbaird | ok I know darkwing I be keen If you have a link | 10:39 |
| smartboyhw | Please test the 13.10 pre-Beta 1 i386 images | 10:39 |
| smartboyhw | You can find the image at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current | 10:40 |
| marcuspbaird | I am on the jupiterbroadcasting mumble if you want to chat to me about it | 10:40 |
| smartboyhw | The test pages is on iso.qa.ubuntu.com (Select "Saucy Beta 1") | 10:40 |
| marcuspbaird | ok kool will down loadit | 10:40 |
| shadeslayer | I won't recommend that link tbh | 10:40 |
| smartboyhw | A detail walkthrough is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough | 10:41 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, ^ | 10:41 |
| smartboyhw | And BTW, knowing Darkwing_ does NOT give you an extra advantage:P | 10:41 |
| marcuspbaird | ok which one | 10:41 |
| marcuspbaird | lol | 10:41 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, well, it's the generic link we can use | 10:41 |
| marcuspbaird | I know everyone | 10:41 |
| marcuspbaird | be shocked | 10:41 |
| marcuspbaird | and the youtubers | 10:41 |
| marcuspbaird | I know popey two don't hold that against me | 10:42 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, the wiki one | 10:42 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, everyone? | 10:42 |
| smartboyhw | Heh | 10:42 |
| marcuspbaird | 32 bit or 63 | 10:42 |
| marcuspbaird | 64 | 10:42 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, if you can use 3 sentences to describe each and every single person in this chat channel, I will believe that. | 10:42 |
| marcuspbaird | sorry | 10:42 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, 32-bit is more urgent:P | 10:42 |
| marcuspbaird | looking | 10:42 |
| Riddell | marcuspbaird: take a look at missing test cases on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/302/builds | 10:43 |
| marcuspbaird | popey you in here as well | 10:43 |
| marcuspbaird | ok do 32 | 10:43 |
| Riddell | duplicate test cases welcome too, the more bugs we find the better | 10:43 |
| marcuspbaird | I have a intel | 10:43 |
| marcuspbaird | 8 g ram | 10:43 |
| marcuspbaird | old processer | 10:43 |
| marcuspbaird | gt210 ndivia | 10:43 |
| smartboyhw | Hell, 8 GB RAM:P | 10:43 |
| marcuspbaird | ion windows at moment | 10:44 |
| marcuspbaird | lol | 10:44 |
| marcuspbaird | looking for a full install | 10:44 |
| marcuspbaird | ok I good at finding bugs | 10:45 |
| marcuspbaird | I can get quidsup to have a look if you like | 10:45 |
| marcuspbaird | he can do a score for u | 10:45 |
| marcuspbaird | lol | 10:45 |
| marcuspbaird | or kaddy | 10:45 |
| marcuspbaird | but hes not a fan of ubuntu | 10:45 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, we need everybody:) | 10:46 |
| marcuspbaird | lol | 10:46 |
| smartboyhw | !testers | Please test the Kubuntu 13.10 pre-Beta 1 images available at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/302/builds | 10:46 |
| smartboyhw | !testers | 10:47 |
| ubottu | Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information. | 10:47 |
| soee | had no time yesterday as i was on laptop | 10:47 |
| smartboyhw | soee, how about today? | 10:48 |
| marcuspbaird | if any of you guys no how to use mumble you might be alble to talk some of the others into it ' | 10:48 |
| marcuspbaird | ts.jupitercolony.com | 10:48 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, we have a dedicated Mumble server | 10:48 |
| marcuspbaird | '64734 | 10:49 |
| marcuspbaird | I know | 10:49 |
| soee | smartboyhw, yes after work and gym :D | 10:49 |
| smartboyhw | yofel__, what's the link again!: | 10:49 |
| smartboyhw | ? | 10:49 |
| marcuspbaird | darkwing told me | 10:49 |
| marcuspbaird | nixie goes on it see i know things | 10:49 |
| marcuspbaird | anyway its a linux chat room so all welcome | 10:49 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 10:50 |
| * smartboyhw does not go on Mumble except for Kubuntu meetings | 10:50 | |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, speaking about meetings, I'm planning the next developer meeting soon to re-think my application | 10:51 |
| smartboyhw | (Since you guys said "Next month":P) | 10:51 |
| marcuspbaird | I happy to jump in meet you guys | 10:52 |
| marcuspbaird | whats your server guys | 10:52 |
| marcuspbaird | in case I need your help with kubuntu | 10:53 |
| yofel__ | smartboyhw: uh, good question, try kyofel.dyndns.org if it has mumurd running | 10:53 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, ^ | 10:53 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, if you need help with Kubuntu, #kubuntu is a better idea:) | 10:53 |
| yofel__ | I remember moving it around a few times for the last meeting because sound failed | 10:53 |
| marcuspbaird | no probls | 10:53 |
| marcuspbaird | I ok I talking about testing it | 10:53 |
| marcuspbaird | ok is cause the updates | 10:53 |
| marcuspbaird | theres been some issues with mumble on kde latley with sound | 10:54 |
| marcuspbaird | allkdes | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | my monitor finally works again | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | hurray | 10:54 |
| Riddell | we only use mumble for some meetings generally | 10:54 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, \o/ | 10:54 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: great | 10:55 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, will probably be around 18th (since I want to go to the Software Freedom Day in Hong Kong doing talks having a "Kubuntu Developer" title):P | 10:55 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: ooh exciting :) | 10:55 |
| smartboyhw | I mean, telling people that I am | 10:55 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, huh, 15-year-olds doing talks to first-time free software people | 10:56 |
| marcuspbaird | I ma 43 | 10:56 |
| marcuspbaird | am 43 | 10:56 |
| smartboyhw | They will think, "WHAT!?!?!? What is a 15-year-old doing here? Aren't he supposed to be doing extra-curricular activities or studying!?) | 10:56 |
| Riddell | my first talk was nerve wracking but it was commended as the best talk of the conference | 10:56 |
| marcuspbaird | I use to have a youtube channel | 10:57 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, :) | 10:57 |
| Riddell | kubuntu is the perfect extra-curricular activity and free software is the best way to study software | 10:57 |
| marcuspbaird | anyway wasn't spaming happy to help | 10:57 |
| marcuspbaird | what do u need to no with the testing | 10:58 |
| marcuspbaird | do u need me to install a certain peace of software for it | 10:58 |
| Riddell | these test cases http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/302/builds/52716/testcases | 10:59 |
| Riddell | mostly to know that it installs and runs fine | 10:59 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell: beta1 looking fine this morning , no gltches or freezes/crashes so far | 11:00 |
| smartboyhw | yofel__, the mumble server still exists but with no people;P | 11:00 |
| Riddell | yay | 11:00 |
| Riddell | thanks | 11:00 |
| yofel__ | ok, then I at least correctly remembered where it's running ^^ | 11:00 |
| BluesKaj | heh , even the coffee's good this morning :) | 11:01 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, no rooms whatsoever | 11:01 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, maybe we should plan another Mumble meeting soon | 11:01 |
| marcuspbaird | ok | 11:02 |
| marcuspbaird | doing a full install anyway | 11:02 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I do wonder how many support has the WithSupport team done currently:P | 11:49 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: how much? that's their business | 11:51 |
| Riddell | kde desktops will be new to them professionally, but they're all linux fanboys like us so they'll have used it in the past and all run it now | 11:52 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: but you can quiz vinay_ and rshort in person if you want :) | 11:52 |
| marcuspbaird | nods me two | 11:53 |
| marcuspbaird | is there still the debate with meir and wayland | 11:53 |
| Riddell | kubotu: newversion owncloud-client 1.4.0 | 11:53 |
| marcuspbaird | darkwing and jonobacon got into debate on g+ afew months ago | 11:53 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1220661 | 11:54 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I know. Will be very interesting to see how the promotion by different mediae worked out:P | 11:54 |
| Riddell | marcuspbaird: we plan to use wayland, ubuntu desktop plans to use mir | 11:54 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, cut off, we won't support XMir for now | 11:54 |
| marcuspbaird | I heard that | 11:54 |
| marcuspbaird | :) | 11:54 |
| smartboyhw | And, since upstream obviously hates it, I don't think we will be using it for some time | 11:54 |
| marcuspbaird | what version | 11:54 |
| marcuspbaird | ok | 11:54 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, you want an FFe for this? | 11:55 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: yeah my feeling is for a FFe, needs investigation though | 11:56 |
| Riddell | sigh, virtualbox crashing the real box | 12:04 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, for me, s/crashing/freezes/ | 12:05 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: yeah that's what I mean | 12:06 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, heh | 12:07 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, but my laptop ALWAYS freezes:P | 12:07 |
| * smartboyhw thinks that he has overused his CPU and RAM doing packaging and stuff | 12:08 | |
| Riddell | is there a better location for upgrade instructions than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades/Kubuntu ? | 12:09 |
| marcuspbaird | so have you gusy tested this installer yer | 12:09 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, we did (for amd64, it works I think) | 12:10 |
| marcuspbaird | does the 32 bit | 12:11 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, good | 12:13 |
| Riddell | proofreaders needed for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades/Kubuntu | 12:13 |
| marcuspbaird | ok just downloader the 32 bt will install soon | 12:13 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, looks good | 12:16 |
| Riddell | ScottK: do you know if we have a bug for that sip issue? | 12:19 |
| Riddell | ScottK: bug 1220675 | 12:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1220675 in sip4 (Ubuntu) "sip 4.15 causes crash in PyKDE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220675 | 12:32 |
| shadeslayer | is it just me or does the guided setup not allow me to resize partitions | 12:41 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, except if you have another OS, no | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | I have Kubuntu on the disk | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | but it doesn't allow me to resize | 12:41 |
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| BluesKaj | sha always use the manual partitioning the guided is clunky and lacks options | 12:56 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer,^ | 12:56 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: was testing out the i386 ISO | 12:56 |
| BluesKaj | nods , of course seeing the guided option is good so you guys van fix it :) | 12:57 |
| Riddell | LANG = "fr_GB.UTF-8" sigh | 12:57 |
| BluesKaj | can | 12:57 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: it'll only offer it if it knows it can resize, maybe you don't have enough disk space to do so | 12:58 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 12:58 |
| BluesKaj | is there a method to renaming the /dev/sdXs on a disk I'm up to sdb8 on one hdd, with missing numbers in between... tried the new partition table command but that didn't seem to get rid of old unused assigned /dev/sd's , so now it's become kind of messy | 13:04 |
| BluesKaj | probly not the place to ask | 13:05 |
| Riddell | you'd need to mess around with partitionmanager or gparted | 13:06 |
| BluesKaj | yeah , i have | 13:06 |
| * Riddell high fives jmux | 13:13 | |
| Riddell | how's this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta1/Kubuntu | 13:30 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, isn't KTp 0.6.3 in already? | 13:35 |
| smartboyhw | (Since I packaged it myself-.-) | 13:35 |
| yofel__ | Riddel: bug 1195256 is bug 1196752, or is systemd-shim not installed ? | 13:37 |
| ubottu | bug 1195256 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "No suspend from session possible" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1195256 | 13:37 |
| ubottu | bug 1196752 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu) "Suspend only works once when using upower with logind -- s-shim needs to call /lib/systemd/system-sleep/*" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196752 | 13:37 |
| Riddell | systemd-shim is installed | 13:38 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, do you know how to install bodega into Kubuntu!? | 13:39 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: um, apt-get ? | 13:41 |
| yofel__ | Riddell: so does suspend work for you now? afaik they implemented the part where it was supposed to tell upower that the wakeup finished | 13:41 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, can't find the package anywhere | 13:41 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: well is it packaged? | 13:41 |
| Riddell | yofel__: good question, I've got in the habit of using pm-suspend, I'll test once this test install is done | 13:41 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I don't think so, but I need it to build Muon at it's fullest state:( | 13:41 |
| yofel__ | Riddell: same here -.- (pm-suspend) | 13:42 |
| Riddell | hmm, strife in lubuntu land | 13:49 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, yes | 13:49 |
| smartboyhw | phillw resigned:O | 13:50 |
| soee | 4.11.1 for Raring ready ? :)\ | 13:52 |
| smartboyhw | soee, we haven't got 4.11.1 ready for Saucy I think | 13:52 |
| soee | smartboyhw, yeah one package failed from what i see | 13:53 |
| soee | but http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.1_raring.html | 13:53 |
| smartboyhw | soee, ah, it's done | 13:53 |
| smartboyhw | soee, which? We can fix that | 13:53 |
| soee | oh 2 | 13:54 |
| soee | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.1_saucy.html | 13:54 |
| smartboyhw | soee, heh heh | 13:54 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 13:54 |
| smartboyhw | soee, that's why I'm saying it isn't fixed yet | 13:55 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer is supposed to be patching | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | I'm supposed to be what? | 13:55 |
| soee | ;D | 13:55 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, patching kde-workspace 4.11.1 in Ninjas PPA!? | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | wasn't that done | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | more new symbols :S | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, :S | 13:56 |
| soee | ok cu you later | 13:59 |
| apol_ | Hi, isn't there a bodega client package anywhere? | 14:05 |
| Riddell | agateau: meh oem-config broken too at least on virtualbox bug 1220193 | 14:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1220193 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity kde frontend crash setting up wireless when ubiquity only" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220193 | 14:05 |
| agateau | Riddell: damn :/ | 14:05 |
| Riddell | agateau: I'm guessing it's not hard to make it fail gracefully if NM isn't running | 14:06 |
| Riddell | but for the ubiquity only install we need to work out how to get NM running as that's the whole point | 14:06 |
| Riddell | lordievader: you did an OEM install on amd64 with oem-config running ok? | 14:07 |
| agateau | Riddell: I agree with both your points | 14:07 |
| agateau | I can have a look at it tomorrow | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | \o/ http://dot.kde.org/2013/09/04/kde-release-structure-evolves | 14:07 |
| lordievader | Riddell: On the image of yesterday yes. Was there a respin? | 14:08 |
| lordievader | Riddell: However it had the bug that the oem user was present after running the initial config. | 14:08 |
| Riddell | lordievader: no respin, so maybe it's only in virtualbox or when no wifi is present or something | 14:09 |
| lordievader | Riddell: I tested it in VB indeed, the vm had an internet connection. | 14:09 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: you got the scoop :) | 14:10 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, :) | 14:10 |
| Riddell | lordievader: oh interesting, then I've no idea why I got it and you didn't | 14:10 |
| Riddell | lordievader: I was i386 you were amd64 but I don't see that should affect it | 14:10 |
| lordievader | Riddell: At your side the oem user was removed? | 14:11 |
| Riddell | lordievader: I didn't get that far, oem setup crashed | 14:12 |
| lordievader | I think that is the real issue, yes. | 14:12 |
| lordievader | I wasn't sure if it was ment to disappear or that it crashed. | 14:13 |
| Riddell | nah it didn't just disappear it crashed with a crash dialogue before it started | 14:14 |
| Riddell | you'd have noticed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1220193/+attachment/3802437/+files/wireless-crash.png :) | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1220193 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity kde frontend crash setting up wireless when ubiquity only or oem-config" [Undecided,New] | 14:15 |
| Riddell | hi manchicken | 14:22 |
| Quintasan | yofel__: You don't happen to know any tools to "draw" relations between machines in a network? | 14:43 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: dia? | 14:46 |
| Riddell | calligra flow? | 14:46 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 14:49 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I'll actually give calligra a go | 14:49 |
| mikhas | pencil & paper never let me down | 14:50 |
| mikhas | and fax machines | 14:50 |
| smartboyhw | Yeah, ready! | 15:22 |
| Riddell | well, more testing would be good, I don't trust images only I've tested | 15:22 |
| Riddell | and more testing on oem especially good | 15:23 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, we're actually investigating if flavours are supposed to support OEM testcases-.- | 15:23 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: that'll be up to the flavour | 15:23 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, no, we are meaning for all flavours | 15:24 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: it'll be up to the flavour to decide | 15:25 |
| Riddell | I'd like to support it for system 76 and anyone else | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, well, can't do the test today | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | And tomorrow I need to still do the Ubuntu Studio upgrade tests (for amd64) | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | So, can't join in | 15:26 |
| Riddell | yofel: I just suspended three times :) | 15:28 |
| smartboyhw | kubotu: newversion bluedevil 1.3.2 | 15:34 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1220779 | 15:34 |
| smartboyhw | ^ Let's do it after Beta 1 | 15:34 |
| smartboyhw | kubotu: newversion libbluedevil 1.9.4 | 15:35 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1220780 | 15:35 |
| smartboyhw | ^ Sae | 15:36 |
| smartboyhw | *Same | 15:36 |
| ejat | hi .. after upgrade to saucy .. my kde desktop window manager missing .. i tried to reinstall then this come up | 15:59 |
| ejat | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6063145/ | 16:00 |
| ejat | anyone can help? | 16:00 |
| ejat | is there a way to force install the dependencies? | 16:00 |
| valorie | Riddell: the /SaucyUpgrades page looks good | 22:31 |
| valorie | this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta1/Kubuntu has a funky pink glow around Muon Discover image | 22:32 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1217639] 13.10 Daily Build has no icon for Wireless Network on the Panel @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1217639 (by Marco Parillo) | 23:46 |
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