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keithzggeri: Honestly, it doesn't much matter. Primary is fine.00:13
keithzggeri: That's just a leftover from the old DOS partition format, where it only understood a certain number of partitions, so after a certain point the rest had to all be under one big "extended" partition so that the older components within Windows didn't throw a fit.00:14
* keithzg has just used GPT as the partition table lately anyways, and any OS that can't understand it can just go cry in a corner :P00:15
gerikeithzg: ok00:15
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Johnny_Linuxocala ?02:50
Johnny_LinuxD`oh!02:50
Johnny_Linuxlol02:50
dj_segfaultHi>  I'm having a problem with my kubuntu 12.04 desktop system that just started last night.  I have a TV hooked up as a second monitor, and that's worked for a long time.  But starting last night, I can lauch things into the second screen and interact with my mouse, but the keyboard input goes to whatever app is active on the first screen!!!  Has anyone else seen that before?03:14
dj_segfaultUnfortunately my research keeps coming up with problems with two screens using Unity, which I'm not using.03:15
PewpHello, look for a little help. I generally always use the kubuntu backports, beta and other ppas for KDE stuff03:32
PewpOn this newer install I just noticed that the ppas are not being seen or something03:32
PewpThough I have added them using the add repository tool, and updated03:33
PewpPackages that are in backports that should be showing up just plain aren't. And i dont get and upgrades from those 4 ppas03:34
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vitimitihi o/08:21
Klaus_Dieterhello world08:56
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Klaus_DieterI am running 13.04 on my laptopt. since the laste kernel upgrade from 3.8.0-27 to 3.8.0-29 the system frequently and randomly freezes. a freeze can be triggered by rebooting the machine however. when using 3.8.0-27 this does not happen. The system does still respond to sysrq but other than that I do not know how I can collect more data hence filing a bugreport at this point does not make sense yet. How can I obtain more dat08:59
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tsimpsonKlaus_Dieter: you can start by running "apport-bug linux", that should collect system information and create a new bug report for you09:09
tsimpsonif more information is needed you can just attach it to the bug report later09:10
ubsafderi need to restart network without rebooting /etc/init.d/networking restart says depreceated on my ubuntu what are the current way of doing ?09:10
tsimpsonubsafder: "sudo service networking restart" or "sudo restart networking" for short09:11
tsimpsonubsafder: "sudo service networking restart" or "sudo restart networking" for short09:14
marcuspbairdhey is darkwing in here 09:35
Klaus_Dieterin the meantime I would like to make 3.8.0-27 the default kernel again09:57
Riddell** testers needed for beta 1 candidates, join us in #kubuntu-devel to help10:32
alvin_Will Saucy have a new (and working) version of Choqok? I miss that program.10:35
marcuspbairdI might be keen 10:38
marcuspbairdhave you got a iso 10:38
marcuspbairdis darkwing around at all 10:38
BluesKaj'Morning all10:50
dundeeHello11:05
dundeeWhy does my kde plasma widget move to the right after logout? KDE 4.11 ubuntu 13.0411:06
BluesKajdundee:  which widget , the "K" menu ?11:08
dundeeBluesKaj: Pager Widget and Quick Access. I place them to the right of Task Manager Widget and after log out they keep moving to the left.11:09
dundeeBluesKaj: Pager Widget and Quick Access. I place them to the left of Task Manager Widget and after log out they keep moving to the right.11:09
miasi'm using kubuntu 13.10, when connected to a VPN (openvpn) with the network manager, I cannot connect anymore to konversation; is this a known issue, and how can i fix it? Thanks11:10
dundeeBluesKaj:  They move from left to right of the task manager widget11:10
BluesKajdundee:  definitely odd behaviour , perhaps the deskyop theme is faulty11:13
dundeeBluesKaj: I thought so too so I used a different theme and same behaviour. I might just remove the settings folder and see.11:14
BluesKajmias:  perhaps your vpn started blocking IRC ..depends on the country/host11:15
BluesKajdundee:  that's abit drastic11:16
dundeeBluesKaj: I know but I have been fighting with it for more than 2 hours now.11:18
BluesKajdundee:  how many task managers inb the panel?11:19
dundeeBluesKaj: I have only one11:20
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BluesKajbbiab 11:25
BluesKajdundee, do you have save previous session enabled in system settings>startup&shutdown>session management , "restore previous session ", and the setting keeps reverting to it if it was closed when your settings were still on thye right side of the panel , try "Start with an empty session"11:37
BluesKajmove the pager etc to where you want them first  before rebooting , of course11:39
imaHey I am Ivan 11:58
imaIs there somebody who can help me with my kubuntu 11:58
hateball!anyone11:58
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.11:58
imaI cant do a login11:58
barihohow is kubuntu related to canonical exactly? who controls kubuntu's development? 12:42
yossarianukkubuntu just uses the ubuntu base12:43
Unit193Repos and infrastructure too.12:44
BluesKajbariho, kubuntu dev is now supported by Blue Systems , who hired 2 (I think) devs from Canonical to work on Kubuntu and other projects the company is developing12:44
BluesKajbariho, http://www.blue-systems.de/12:46
PiciThe work that the Canonical and general Ubuntu devs put into the base infrastructure of Ubuntu benefits Kubuntu and the rest of the official flavors as well.12:47
barihok, thanks for the info12:52
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damian_hi :)13:24
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automanHi!15:20
automanOlá!15:20
automanSou iniciante no kde. Quais sites devo começar a ler? Obrigado15:21
tsimpson!br | automan15:26
ubottuautoman: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.15:26
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dabauercan't update, update manager is broken17:22
lordievaderdabauer: Could you be a bit more specific, do you get errors?17:29
dabauerI ran sudo apt-get install -f, and it ran OK but it retured an error, 1 I think17:30
dabauerwhenever I run update manager it returns an error17:31
yuriyHello17:33
yuriyi can't find skype or dropbox on the system tray17:33
yuriyhow to resilve such pb?17:34
lordievaderdabauer: What error?17:34
dabauererror 117:34
lordievaderdabauer: Hmm, try opening a terminal and running "sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade"17:35
dabauererror code 1, broken pipe17:35
lordievaderdabauer: Do you get the same error when you issue "sudo apt-get update" alone?17:36
dabauerit ran OK, but the upgrade didn't run17:37
lordievaderdabauer: True, now try "sudo apt-get upgrade"17:37
dabauerhang on a secode17:37
dabauerit's looking for acroread17:38
dabaueracroread-bin17:38
dabauerit says acroread-bin is not installed17:39
lordievaderdabauer: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get upgrade"?17:40
lordievader!paste17:40
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:40
dabauer!pastebinit17:44
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com17:44
dabauerI pasted my output to http://paste.ubuntu.com, and it said to run apt-get install -f17:45
dabauerI ran that and I got the same error message17:45
lordievaderdabauer: Can you give me a link to the paste?17:46
dabauerI didn't get a URL back from paste.ununtu.com17:46
lordievaderdabauer: Its in the adress bar ;)17:47
dabauerpaste.ubuntu.com/606384/plain17:47
lordievaderI get a not found on that one.17:48
dabauerthat's what's in my address bar17:48
lordievaderSimply copy the output to the input field of paste.ubuntu.com, hit paste and copy the url.17:49
dabauerpaste.ubuntu.com/60638417:49
lordievaderI have the feeling you are missing a number (might be wrong), still getting the not found.17:50
dabauerI'll copy from my address bar17:51
dabauerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6063484/17:51
dabauerI didn't see the extra 417:51
lordievaderAh broken packages, you've tried the "sudo apt-get -f install" right? Did you get errors?17:52
dabauerI got acroraead: acroread-bin not installed17:53
lordievaderdabauer: Is this something you want installed btw?17:53
dabauerwhere do I get acroread???17:53
lordievaderGuess not, acroread is probably Acrobat Reader... Lets try fixing your system: sudo apt-get purge acroread17:55
dabauerthat worked OK17:56
lordievaderNow try "sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade" again.17:56
dabauerthe update worked, upgrade looks like it is working17:57
lordievaderdabauer: Ok, great ;)17:58
dabauerworked just fine!!!18:01
dabauereverything is udated!18:01
dabauernow I know how to update manually18:02
lordievader:D18:03
st3vehola19:02
st3vei just got a new dell laptop (secure boot, efi, etc), and would like to install kubuntu 13.04 on it. i tried booting it with secureboot enabled (the system default), and that didn't work. i disabled secureboot and left efi enabled, and it failed on "grub install-dummy". i've now disabled both secureboot and efi and am trying to install again...19:03
st3veBUT, my question is...  am i missing out on anything by doing this?19:03
st3veis everything still going to work the same with legacy boot (no efi, no secureboot)?19:04
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BluesKajst3ve:  not absolutely sure , but i thought efi-mode is the required setting to install inux safely 19:08
BluesKajdon't think the grub version really matters19:08
reaglehowdy, long time Kubuntu user he just returned to using my netbook after a year. After updates and all (13.04) I can't find the battery applet...?!?19:13
reaglewhat package is the widget/plasmoid in, what is it called?19:13
Avihayreagle: try right clicking the sys-tray->systray settings19:14
Avihayin display subsection extra-items, see if you have a battery indicator19:14
reagleah, that looks useful19:15
Avihayit's called Battery monitor. I might have installed something for it, because the applet just took too much panel space19:16
reagleI have enhance, however, I have to click the > button to see it since there's a lot of stuff in my systray... and all it shoes me is that I'm off AC, no time left 19:18
reaglei.e., enhanced battery moniter19:18
reaglealso, is this something I could stick on my dashboard for when the screen is locked?19:21
Avihaywell, you can right-click systray->systray settings, and under entrys, sett the battery mon from auto to always19:22
reagleah, okay, i never lucked at those settings muched; what about getting a sense of how much battery is left?19:22
Avihayreagle: you can also try to install  plasma-widgets-workspace , I think it has the plasmoid, though the new locker screen doesn't support that19:23
reagleAvihay: I have plasma-widgets-workspace, but haven't been able to find a battery widget when on the dashboard/lock screen19:28
reagleAvihay: do you have something in your systray that shows how much battery is left though? That's what I reall need -- not if I have it plugged in or not19:29
Avihaytry searching for one from the GetHotNewStuff menu?19:29
Avihayyes, I do, the battery monitor19:29
Avihayif I'm on power it disappears to the arrow thing , and if I'm dis/charging it appears on the systray19:30
reaglegot you, the enhanced one was actually showing less than the non-enhanced19:32
reaglethanks for your help!19:33
st3vehmm. so i've got kubuntu installed, but muon update doesn't want to run. i click the "install updates" button and it says "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided."19:46
st3vehow do i provide proper authorization?19:46
BluesKajst3ve:  usually it's a password19:47
st3veright.. it's not asking me for a password19:47
BluesKajtry the terminal , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-getupgrade19:48
BluesKajcorrection ;sudo apt-getupgrade19:48
st3vei've manually done that..  are you saying that i will never be able to use the gui updater? or that, after installing the updates, it'll start working properly?19:48
st3ve(it's downloading 354 packages right now.. i'm on my other laptop, waiting for it to finish)19:49
BluesKajheh my kb battery seems to be atingup ..uhoh19:49
BluesKajmost likely once it's upgraded muon will work ok , unless you have some special rules setup in kwallet19:50
st3veeverything is basic, stock, default19:51
st3vei actually try to minimize the # of funny customizations i make to my systems, so i dno't have to remember what i've done when it's time to reinstall or replace some hardware ;)19:51
BluesKajok , once apt is finished then try muon again ...autoupdater might have been running 19:52
st3veokie doke19:53
BluesKajyeah , this pc is just a media server for our TV room , nothing special in terms of software ...all that xbmc stuff is for the birds IMO 19:54
st3veis muon a total replacement for synaptic? i.e. i'd never have to install or use synaptic to get all the same access to everything?19:54
BluesKajyes, I used synaptic up until 6months ago because muon is finally stable and mature enough to be used as a reference for info on apps  ...I usually use the terminal for installing stuff , but sometimes it's good what's related and needs to be considered 19:56
BluesKajgood to know what's related 19:57
st3vewell, it's not just for me, i install linux on non-techie people's computers too and i definitely want to make sure the gui option is viable for them19:59
BluesKajyes , understandable for sure 20:00
BluesKajmy friends are are quite technical in respects, but most are deathly afraid of linux 20:02
BluesKajlinux is the boogeyman to anyone who's taken MS courses20:04
st3veok, after running apt-get upgrade manually, and rebooting, now it's working as expected20:07
st3veit asked me for a password, etc20:07
st3venow i can install firefox and thunderbird and so on20:07
BluesKajst3ve:  cool :)20:08
st3veshould i file a bug report on that?20:08
BluesKajthat's your call , but it seems the bugfix may have down the pipe with upgrades20:09
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BluesKajok , battery change in order here20:10
bjrohanHelp please, For some reason Text is not showing on mysytem20:42
bjrohanIn this text edit bar it is empty squares, when I hit enter it appears correctly20:43
BluesKajbjrohan:  where on your system ?20:43
bjrohanAll over20:43
bjrohanKDE bar, all text is fine20:43
bjrohanin xChat for instance, the mneu bar text is okay, all other text is bad20:43
BluesKajupdate and upgrade your packages 20:43
bjrohanI just did, nothing updated20:43
bjrohanLooks like windows text?20:44
monkeyjuicedist-upgrade?20:44
bjrohanKDE "start" button menus is fine20:44
BluesKajtry the terminal , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade20:44
bjrohanterminal text is okay doing htat now20:45
BluesKajthen as monkeyjuice suggested , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:45
monkeyjuicehey BluesKaj turned into a nice day20:45
BluesKajyeah monkeyjuice , nice here too20:45
bjrohan0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.20:45
bjrohan:-(\20:46
BluesKajbjrohan:  check your software sources in muon settings check them all except for the cdrom20:47
bjrohanok20:48
BluesKajenable them rather20:48
monkeyjuicebjrohan:  is this a fresh install ?20:49
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bjrohanmonkeyjuice, no I didn't even do an update when I retarted and had this hapen20:54
bjrohanrestarted20:54
bjrohanI marked all packages sans CDrom dichecked for update, nada20:54
BluesKajwell, enuff for one day ...later20:55
monkeyjuicebjrohan:  are there other users on this system . check to see if its there also?20:55
bjrohanNope, justme20:55
bjrohanNo other users on thisone20:56
monkeyjuicemaybe make a user to test it ... 20:56
bjrohancreate a new user?20:56
bjrohanwill do20:56
monkeyjuiceyap and login to see if it changes20:57
bjrohanlogin as guest then instead?20:57
monkeyjuiceya try it 20:57
bjrohanBRB20:57
bjrohanguest account everything is okay monkeyjuice 21:01
monkeyjuiceso your user account is doing it for some reason21:02
monkeyjuicehmmm21:02
monkeyjuicecould make a new user and move to that ive had to do that before if you cant figure it out21:03
monkeyjuiceim not sure how to help with this21:03
monkeyjuiceor ask in #ubuntu there more active right now21:03
bjrohanThanks monkeyjuice 21:03
bjrohanwill do21:03
monkeyjuicehope ya get it bjrohan21:03
bjrohanwould appear something is awry in the fnts, would it be the fons in my user dir, or global?21:04
bjrohanprobably my home folder21:04
monkeyjuiceya i remember some problem with fonts but along time ago21:04
monkeyjuicethink it was gnome tho21:04
monkeyjuiceyou said guest is fine right?21:05
bjrohanyes21:05
monkeyjuiceso seems its your user to me21:05
bjrohanyep21:05
bjrohannow to figure out what, almost like a font was removed21:06
monkeyjuiceand you changed nothing ?21:06
bjrohanNot in any settings or in the fonts folder21:06
bjrohanI added a few little progrmas21:06
monkeyjuicewonder if they changed fonts or something21:06
bjrohanI just wnet to appearnace, and changes all the fonts to Times Roman, no diff21:08
monkeyjuicehmmm not sure how to find this sorry21:09
bjrohanWhat part of the systme is the text that appaers in the text editor bar in tthe IRC program, and the name listing on the right?21:10
bjrohanthose are the ones messed up21:10
bjrohanNot the window title21:10
bjrohannot the menu bar21:10
bjrohanAlthough only n xchat in Firefox  only the window title is okay, menus and all are fubar21:11
monkeyjuicei dont know 21:12
bjrohanno problem21:13
bjrohanI had added Conky manager, which added fonts, my guess is this is te culprit21:13
KpycNuKCan you describe your problem? (just copyPase if you could :3)21:14
bjrohanKpycNuK,  My fonts are messed up in Kubuntu,  Some appear okay (system) others appear as blank boxes21:15
bjrohanKpycNuK,  for instance all fonts in taskbar are fine, as well as the KDE menu fonts21:16
bjrohanI am using Chat right now, where I enter text is all blank boxes, however the text in the convo window is fine21:16
bjrohanthe name lise and room list are blank boxes, window title is fine, as well as the xchat menu bar is legible21:16
bjrohanname list21:16
bjrohanIn firefox only the window tiel bar is legible everything else is giberish, even text in the browser main window21:17
bjrohanDolhin, all text is fine21:17
bjrohanDolphin21:17
KpycNuKCan you show some screenshots? I'm going to smoke and read some russian resources about this problem :321:19
bjrohanwould like to but can't use browser in this account to paste it to pastebin etc21:20
bjrohanI opened every font that came with conky manager they all opened just fine and showed text21:25
bjrohanor a symbol21:25
bjrohanIn kmail everyting is fine, in Thunderbird, everything is not21:29
bjrohanIn rekonq, everyting loosk fine, in FireFox, Chrome, and Chromium, they do not21:30
bjrohanlooks like the standard KDE itmes are all okay21:30
KpycNuKwhat about new user in the system?21:41
KpycNuKSuppose you tried21:42
KpycNuKAnd what's happened when you are switching to another terminal? (Ctrl+Alt+F1). Is everything ok there? (I think yes.)21:44
bjrohanKpycNuK,  here is a screenshot http://tinypic.com/r/35198co/521:52
bjrohanwhere do I find the Guset account files?21:53
bjrohanI want to copy over the guest account font folder21:53
bjrohanafter backing up my current .font folder21:53
bjrohan_I changed the name of the .font dir in my home folder, and rebooted, I still have font issu22:04
bjrohan_ues22:04
bjrohan_does thes mean my global font is fubr?22:05
bjrohan_My gurst account all works fine22:05
bjrohan_guest22:05
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